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Schitt's Creek · The Art of Costume Podcast

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  Hello, welcome to the Art of Costume podcast.
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  I'm Mose with Joy Glass. And I'm one of Myra Rose's
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  former assistants, Spencer Williams.
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  Oh my gosh, you would be 1 of Myra's former assistants and
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  just like you would never shut up about it.
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  It would have been the best job and also the hardest, most
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  impossible job. Yes, you would have been like I
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  hate my life but Myra Rose is the best.
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  Driving across town with like, wigs in my passenger seat.
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  They're seat belted, by the way. Oh of.
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  Course, just doing the most impossible things.
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  Elizabeth, it is so good to see you.
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  I feel like even though we live a couple doors down from each
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  other, I feel like I haven't seen you in a hot minute.
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  What have you been up to? You know, just working far too
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  much. Did go and see Florence in the
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  machine. That was amazing.
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  Oh. My gosh, we haven't even talked
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  about that. Do you feel?
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  How do you feel? Do you feel changed?
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  I felt it was what I needed. I've been having a hard time.
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  It's what I needed to like, reset my energy, feel a little
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  bit better about the world around me.
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  The queen ascended upon Los Angeles.
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  I totally forgot that you got to go see her.
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  Oh my gosh. It was a reprieve from reality.
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  It was life giving. It was a reset I desperately
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  needed. To go.
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  Back into my three day weekend. Right.
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  Everything is charged. I'm jealous.
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  Yeah, I was seeing people posting videos of it.
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  Oh, man, so jealous. Well, I was not there, but I
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  will be there for the next one. It's I, I haven't missed a
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  Florence and Machine tour and well, I think ever so it was the
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  first one. But I'll be there for Florence,
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  come back. I'll be here for the next 1, you
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  know, for. The next one, who knows, maybe
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  we'll take a a trip across the pond.
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  Well, if she has, you never know.
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  I would love to do that that oh. Gosh, that's amazing.
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  I did not make it to that, but I have been busy doing a million
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  other things, of course, is TV season.
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  So I just want to plug that. I'm just going to call it my
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  first ever Netflix special because that's probably the only
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  time I'll ever be able to say something remotely close to
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  that. The Art of Costume Live produced
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  by Netflix is now live on our YouTube and Spotify Apple
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  podcast. Wherever you listen to The Art
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  of Costume, it's live. Check it out.
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  We had a live studio audience where I interviewed 3 costume
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  designers, Amy Paris from Stranger Things, Olga Mill from
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  Beef season 2 and Nagar Ally Klein from Nobody Wants This.
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  And we got to talk about their shows, all the costumes.
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  It's only like about 30 minutes long.
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  It was a incredible, fabulous production produced by the
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  Netflix team. I'm so thankful it was the best
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  time ever. So yeah, go check it out my find
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  a little Netflix special. So go go support because I had
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  the best time. I don't know if it'll ever
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  happen again, so just make it worthwhile.
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  Let me live my fantasy, let me live my dreams.
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  But I, I want to be able to do it again next year too.
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  So yes, everybody. Go watch it.
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  It's incredible. I love Nobody Wants This, so it
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  was great getting to hear about that.
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  I'm not gonna lie, I love bitch. It's so good when.
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  It's like my favorite show. When they told me, 'cause you
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  know, I'm not a contemporary show, you know, person, yeah,
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  I'm a fantasy. Like, of course, when I said
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  Stranger Things, I was like, easy down, don't even have to
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  prepare honestly. But then when they, I didn't
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  even know what nobody wants. This was initially I was like,
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  don't know what that is. I had to look it up.
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  I was like, Kristen Bell has a Netflix show.
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  I like literally, I knew. I knew like nothing totally went
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  into it at the, you know, Fast forward to like a week later,
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  I'm like crying next to a box of tissues over like these
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  relationships of these people that I of these people.
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  With really terrible communication skills in a
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  podcast. So invested, so invested, such a
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  good show. And Season 3 is supposed to be
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  around the corner, so. Yes, apparently.
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  Apparently. I no, not, I mean not apparently
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  it's real. I've I've we talked about it in
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  the podcast or at the live show. So go check it out.
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  It's really, really good. So had a great time.
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  Thank you. The one that came out, a few of
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  the costume nerds came out as well.
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  So thank you all for coming out. But with that being said, we
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  have a mega episode to talk about today.
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  Oh yes. 'Cause We Are came into a show
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  that is near and dear to the core of the art of costume.
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  A show I've assumed we've already done multiple times.
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  And a show that's been on the schedule many, many times and
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  has been removed many times because we have been too afraid
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  to step up to the task because we knew that we would dive too
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  deep. It is because it is just so
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  close to the core of who we are. There is just some shows, when I
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  look back to the mission statement of the art of costume,
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  there were like like a couple shows and movies that maybe
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  start art of costume. It was it was the film Black
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  Panther when Ruth Carter did that movie.
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  It was the show American Horror Story Coven that Lou Eirich did,
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  and it was Schitt's Creek by Deborah Hansen.
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  Because it is so freaking good. It's so good.
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  It's one of my comfort shows. I love it.
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  I've seen it so many times. My family stopped me to ask,
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  asked me to stop watching it at 1:00.
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  Point. I would put it on and they were
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  literally like, can you watch anything else?
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  It's so good. And what's crazy is like how
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  like in America it would, it did not hit right away.
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  You know, the first couple years it was just it, you know, it was
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  a Canadian show. And the first couple years it
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  just was not landing. And then by the time it like
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  kind of came out here, it blew up and suddenly everyone was
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  obsessed. And then the show ended on on
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  its own terms by the time everyone caught up.
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  And it just, it's like this kind of like cult classic like show
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  now. I love it.
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  I Every show episode is hilarious.
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  Of course we're gonna have to talk about our dear Catherine
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  O'Hara, who's now no longer with us.
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  She's the heart and soul of the show.
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  Of course you all know she's like my goat.
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  I love her to death. She's one of the greatest
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  actresses of all time, the greatest comedic actress.
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  And she just carries the show. But so much to talk about, so
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  many costumes, so many wigs, so many funny moments.
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  We could go on and on. So let's just get into
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  Elizabeth. Spencer, do you want to give us
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  a summary of Schitt's Creek? Sure.
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  Well, Schitt's Creek was created by Dan and Eugene Levy, the
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  father son duo. I'll just say instead of trying
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  to sum up what Dan and Eugene Levy have done 'cause we could
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  go on and on about Eugene Levy's history because that is just
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  quite the history. I'll just shout out something
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  recent that Dan Levy has done. He has a new show on Netflix
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  with Rachel Sennett. It's called Big Mistakes.
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  It's brand new, it's on Netflix, it's.
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  Incredible. I haven't seen it yet but
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  everyone seems to love it. It's the concise storytelling
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  and the humor I loved from Schitt's Creek with totally new
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  characters in a new story in a new setting, and it I really
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  love. I put it on on kind of like a
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  whim and then I binged it in like 2 days, which isn't hard.
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  It's not very, it's not very long, but I would.
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  I just had to keep watching it. Yeah, so he created it and he
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  stars on it I believe and I believe is our greenlit for
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  season 2 is what I heard. So sounds like the show will be
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  around for a while. So, but to summarize Shits
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  Creek, which feels kind of impossible, a wealthy couple,
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  video store magnate Johnny and his soap opera star wife Moira,
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  suddenly find themselves completely broke with only one
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  remaining asset, a small town called Schitt's Creek, which
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  Deroses bought years earlier as a joke.
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  This once wealthy couple must give up life as they know it.
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  With their two spoiled children in tow and their pampered lives
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  behind them, the Rose family is forced to face their newfound
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  poverty head on and come together as a family to survive.
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  And that is Schitt's Creek. That is Schitt's Creek.
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  Go find it and watch it. If you haven't go watch it.
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  You won't understand what we're talking about.
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  It's you have on HBO. Max yes, I was just going to say
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  that it's very accessible. It's also, despite it being like
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  6 seasons, it's a very quick watch and you will need all six
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  seasons to appreciate the work of our costume designer.
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  Let's meet Deborah Hansen, the costume designer of Schitt's
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  Creek, for which she won an Emmy in its final season.
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  You will know her work from Bomb Girls, Orphan Black, The
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  Handmaid's Tale, for which she received an Emmy nomination for
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  the episode, Nightshade, Frankie, Drake, Mysteries, 7
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  Veils, and North of North. Orphan Black, this is your girl.
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  Yeah, yeah. I I am.
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  Quite familiar with her work. It kind of took up years of my
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  life, and one of the very first things I wrote for that I heard
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  a costume was a series of articles about the costumes.
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  So we're going to be hearing more about Deborah Hanson later
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  on, I have a feeling. Oh yeah, Now Deborah Hanson is
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  not the most chatty of costume designers.
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  She has done very few interviews.
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  No, she has not. For anything I found just a
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  handful of articles about her, like her actually talking about
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  her work and one video interview so.
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  And 90% of that was about Moira Rose.
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  Yeah, no, I remember this very vividly when this Creek was on.
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  I remember all the time trying to be like, where is Deborah
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  talking about her costumes? And it usually was Dan Levy
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  talking about the costumes. Yeah, and even him, I did not
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  find too, too, too much at least that was like that was relevant
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  or I don't know, maybe my Google was just not working.
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  But you're right, a lot of it was Dan Levy.
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  Quite a bit of it was also Catherine talking about her
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  character and the influence costume had for Moira, but
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  talking about one of our series creators, Dan Levy.
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  From the very start, costume was going to be a huge part of the
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  show. As Dan explained to Women's Wear
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  Daily saying, wardrobe is probably the most important
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  element in storytelling outside of actually writing.
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  We, as people, say so much about who we are and what we believe
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  in and what we want and what we think of ourselves by the way we
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  dress. To me, wardrobe was like a huge
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  focus, making sure we thought through each of our characters
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  and making sure the details were there, which is something we'll
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  see this show really exemplifies is the details in every single
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  character. And on top of that, we're going
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  to notice the authenticity of of our characters costumes, he also
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  told Women's Wear Daily. My mandate when we started the
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  show was that I wanted the clothes to feel real.
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  I wanted people who were interested in fashion to
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  recognize pieces and say, OK, this isn't someone doing Zara
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  doing Balenciaga, which I'm like, that would have been so
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  easy for them to do. Because while the costumes were
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  important to the show, Hanson's budget was extremely limited for
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  needing genuine designer clothing.
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  So this led to Deborah spending 10 to 12 hours a day shopping
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  online shopping, auctions to get the designer names they needed
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  within their budget. Wow.
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  Which I'm like, that's too long on a on a computer.
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  I know my eyeballs just start hurting, start reaching for my
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  blue light glasses, right? Right.
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  And like, I'm sure she was like keeping track of like multiple
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  auctions. Yeah.
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  And like, I could all like I've had to keep track of just one
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  auction. Oof.
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  Yeah. A long time ago, for one of the
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  very first things I worked on and like, that was stressful
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  enough and I didn't end up winning, even though like I was,
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  I was glued to that eBay auction.
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  Well, we talk a lot about storytelling through costume
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  design, and I just feel like each of these characters, you
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  could really, Dan is right. I mean, each of these
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  characters, you could just tell so much about who these
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  characters were through their costume from the very beginning,
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  through Alexis, through David, I mean, especially through Myra,
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  through Johnny. And then as we get into the
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  town, he's like, he just knew who each of these characters
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  were. And just seeing how they evolved
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  too throughout the seasons through their costumes, it just
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  felt so important. Even if they weren't the big
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  dramatic costumes like Myra, you still were able to like
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  understand who they were and how they were evolving throughout
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  the series. Even characters like Bob or
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  like, you know, like the the shits, like like, we were just
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  able to like see how they were changing throughout the series.
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  So it just was, it's clear to me that the costume and through
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  storytelling, through costume was important from the beginning
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  in terms of the storytelling. It was, and after our break we
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  will get into the sixth season series, Schitt's Creek.
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  I'm so excited. You look like Justin Bieber at
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  Coachella with the sunglasses and the hat and the hoodie.
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  Thank you. OK, let's we're we're back from
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  break now. I'm here to show everyone my
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  toys. So this is my Myra Oh.
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  Lovely, lovely. This is my David.
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  Lovett. OK.
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  Wait is he wearing the leather sweater in that or the OR the
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  black and white 1 the iconic? Looks like the one.
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  Yeah, this is the black and white 1.
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  Looks like it has the lightning. They're not lightning bolts.
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  It's the like white stripes underneath the collar.
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  One OK. I do love that one.
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  This is Alexis with the sun hat, of course, of course.
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  And then this is Johnny in the suit, of course.
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  Oh wait, of course, holding that wrong.
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  There you go, show and tell his. Navy.
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  Yeah, his Navy suit. Oh my gosh.
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  So these have been up in my house for a long time.
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  So people don't people. No, I'm not.
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  I'm not playing around with Schist.
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  Creek every now and then in in your apartment 'cause you used
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  to have a vast collection of pops.
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  It has dwindled over the years, but you always have either
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  either or both Lord of the Rings pops and or Schitt's Creeks pops
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  on display in your home. This is true, it has dwindled.
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  I I just hit a phase where I just had way too many.
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  And every time I had a birthday, Easter, Valentine's Day, yeah, I
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  would see like, you know, people show up with a box in that same
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  dimension wrapped up and I'll just be like, just, yeah,
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  please, no more time out. Like I just, I can't, you know,
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  like you could like knock on the like my drywall, my house and
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  you could just tell that my house was just filled with them
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  so. We probably could have built a
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  pretty like sturdy shed with the amount of pops you have.
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  Yeah, I mean, my garage still has more, so I had to cut it
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  off, but yeah, so. But I have not gotten rid of the
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  Schitt's Creek ones so. No.
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  And good call. Good call on that.
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  Yeah, of course I never will. So anyways, let's get into our
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  incredible town of Schitt's Creek.
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  There's a lot of characters in a lot of costumes.
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  There are, and we're going to start with the towns folks of
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  Schitt's Creek, our townies, starting with the mayor and his
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  wife, Jocelyn and Roland. Shit, you know, talk about a
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  devoted couple. And just like the perfect
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  example of like small town high school sweethearts.
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  Yeah, they're adorable. I love Jocelyn and Roland, but
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  also like in terms of Jocelyn and Roland, they're also like
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  the perfect foil to Johnny and Moira too.
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  They're like the complete antithesis to who they are in
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  terms of costumes. Yes.
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  I'm like, we even see it when when Jocelyn takes Moira to get
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  her hair done and she's like, Oh my God, like what's happened?
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  Like Jocelyn. Shops at the Blouse Barn and has
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  very colorful blouses and wears the kitten sweaters or concert
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  Tees. You'll never see them while
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  you're on any of that. And.
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  Roland that shows up with stains on his shirts that are.
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  Every single time, yeah. Every single time.
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  And they're just kind of sloppy and tucked in and, you know,
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  into his jeans. So jeans.
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  I mean, he would never see Johnny in jeans.
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  A light wash denim jeans. It's just like the best foil,
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  you know? It's so hilarious.
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  It really is, especially because Roland and Jocelyn are very
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  confident and very happy in who they are, just as much as Johnny
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  and Moira are in themselves. And that confidence rolls right
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  into the town council with Ronnie and Ray.
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  I love Ronnie. Ronnie was probably like my
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  favorite character. No, no, she wasn't my favorite
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  character of like the townspeople.
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  She was probably my favorite character 'cause she just didn't
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  care. Like she had her construction
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  company and she was gonna do what she was gonna do no matter
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  what Patrick said. And she has a very utilitarian
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  wardrobe, but she also, like, clearly cares about presenting
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  herself well on like, Roland also dresses very utilitarianly,
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  but like you said, stains like he's always kind of rumpled.
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  Ronnie always, you know, clean ironed like is not concerned
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  with what she's wearing but knows I'm going to put myself
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  together before I walk out the door.
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  Yeah, Ronnie is like one of the few people that, like, could
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  actually live in a world outside of Schitt's Creek.
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  You know, that is like a real person.
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  Like it could actually exist in a world that's not Schitt's
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  Creek. Like actually put together, like
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  you said, close press. Sure, it's not like an exciting
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  outfit, but it's it's an outfit like you could see Ronnie in the
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  world and they would just feel like, yeah, that's a normal
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  person. So Ronnie's hilarious.
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  She's great and she owns and runs a construction company.
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  She can't be wearing Balenciaga like Myra like, but she's like,
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  I still want to look nice when I go to work or I go to council.
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  Yeah, I don't think Deborah Hanson was up all night shopping
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  for Ronnie. I don't think that was the the
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  part we were talking about. No, I think she went to.
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  She probably wanted it to be a little bit nicer, so she
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  probably did go to Kohl's. I was about to say Walmart, but
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  I was like, no, I think Ronnie. I think Ronnie would would go to
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  Kohl's. Also, someone who I think is
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  shopping at Kohl's to get that little bit nicer look is Ray,
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  who is so concerned with looking nice at all times.
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  You like all of his clothes always look brand new.
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  Yeah, because he, he's like the one guy who seems to have like
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  this, this town, like under his control a little bit, you know?
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  Yeah, I'm pretty sure he has a monopoly on the real estate
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  business and she's crazy. Everything runs through Ray, so
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  he might be able to afford something a little bit nicer
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  than the Blouse Barn, even though it's again, he's not
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  walking around in suits, though there are like no suits in
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  Schitt's Creek, so this is the nice version of what we would
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  consider nice in Schitt's. Creek and I do love how he
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  always has like the polo shirt, the ironed polo shirt on, not a
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  button down like I, I grew up with so many dads who was like,
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  oh you got to, you got to look a little nice, get out your polo
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  shirt and iron it and throw it on.
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  It was so funny. We also have a third townie who
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  is not part of City Council but is very much part of the town
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  fabric. We have Mutt.
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  Oh, Mutt, remember Mutt? He Alexis made fun of Mutt a lot
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  because she would always be like, you never changed your
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  clothes. No.
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  I'm like, he is because he is Mutt.
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  Shit. So he is the son of Jocelyn and
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  Roland, and I'm like, you're very much your father's son.
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  Like he's a little bit cleaner. Yeah.
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  In presenting himself. But it's like and like.
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  Alexis says he isn't, but he is. He is.
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  But he literally the same as his dad like jeans.
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  Although I think he wears a dark wash like undershirt and a Plaid
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  shirt. Like that's all this man wears.
• 25:32
  Tank top just says dirty to Alexis.
• 25:35
  Yeah, I I think so. I wonder if Spotify is going to
• 25:39
  flag us for saying shit 100 times in this episode.
• 25:42
  Oh. My gosh, I didn't even think.
• 25:44
  Of that Spotify, what are we? Supposed to do I know I we'll
• 25:48
  have to see what happens. We'll find out.
• 25:50
  We'll. Find out where the limits are.
• 25:54
  A character who found out where the limits were in his personal
• 25:58
  life. Bob, I love Bob is actually one
• 26:04
  of my favorite characters. I was just talking about this
• 26:06
  the other night with my girlfriend.
• 26:08
  I was like, if Bob is peak comedy, he is so funny because I
• 26:17
  mean, he kept up his bit throughout the entire series.
• 26:20
  If you have not just like even just if you put the show on mute
• 26:23
  of him just walking into any space where he has to walk in,
• 26:27
  do his like little dance and clap and laugh.
• 26:30
  It's the funniest thing ever. It makes me cry laugh every
• 26:33
  single time Bob walks into a room.
• 26:36
  Just these gifts you have on the screen right now are like making
• 26:39
  me want to die. It's so good, like I was telling
• 26:42
  Spencer, like I couldn't find good pictures of Bob.
• 26:46
  I could find good gifts though. He's always moving.
• 26:50
  He's always moving and I like his little.
• 26:53
  His little little run, like the moment I was like, Oh my gosh,
• 26:58
  this is what all of this was building up to was when he
• 27:01
  auditioned for Cabaret. And before he gets into like his
• 27:05
  serious, he like has to do his little jog up and smile and then
• 27:10
  he got real. I was like, Oh my gosh, this man
• 27:12
  knows what he's doing. He may not be.
• 27:16
  I don't think Bob owns the mechanic, the garage.
• 27:21
  I don't think Bob actually knows how to fix a car though.
• 27:25
  No. Like his, his shirts are always
• 27:29
  way too clean 'cause he's got like buttoned down Bob's garage
• 27:33
  pocket. Like he, he's always clean,
• 27:37
  Yeah. Well, the town needs a mechanic,
• 27:39
  doesn't mean he is a mechanic. I know, but then.
• 27:43
  Who? Who's?
• 27:46
  Who's fixing the cars? It's clearly not Johnny.
• 27:49
  He he couldn't help anyone when he was working out of the
• 27:52
  garage. Right, exactly.
• 27:54
  I mean, you know, just there's not a lot happening in this
• 27:57
  town. There's not a lot of commerce.
• 28:00
  Going Do you think it was his wife?
• 28:03
  Do you think his wife was fixing the cars?
• 28:05
  Maybe I I just don't think there's a lot of car fixing
• 28:08
  happening, but. Probably not.
• 28:10
  Everybody's cars look pretty rough in that town.
• 28:16
  But anyways, Bob, I love you. And he has, especially in the I
• 28:21
  forgot it was the the fifth or sixth season.
• 28:23
  He has an episode of Just Like Great costume moments when his
• 28:29
  wife decides to leave him for the pastor of their church.
• 28:34
  Oh yeah. He first and Bob is like a 70
• 28:39
  something year old man gets a matching set of a leather jacket
• 28:49
  and pants to try and be a bad boy.
• 28:56
  I was like, this is like such a like like what a dad is thinking
• 29:02
  a bad boy is like so. Yeah, all.
• 29:05
  Leather motorcycle look, yes. It's so good, it's everything.
• 29:12
  It's like his pants are so tight.
• 29:16
  He can't even do his little run properly.
• 29:19
  He's trying. He's trying so hard.
• 29:22
  Oh my God, If I were the director, I would have been
• 29:24
  crying. I would have had to film this
• 29:27
  outside. No way.
• 29:29
  No, no. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, I was
• 29:33
  like, it's not going to get funnier than this.
• 29:35
  And then he puts on one of Johnny's suits and it's like
• 29:41
  like Bob is significantly taller than Johnny.
• 29:47
  Like it's slightly it's slightly too short, it's slightly too
• 29:53
  tight. Like Deborah did such a good job
• 29:56
  tailoring this suit. Like he looks nice but but
• 30:01
  ridiculous at the same. Time.
• 30:02
  He could barely move his arms. Yeah.
• 30:05
  And he's like fully having a panic attack.
• 30:10
  Oh so good. Such comedic storytelling
• 30:13
  through costume. So much.
• 30:17
  Also a lot of comedic storytelling through costume
• 30:21
  with Twila. Talk about the ultimate diner
• 30:32
  waitress. Yeah, it's a different type of
• 30:36
  waitress we're seeing now compared to when we were in Twin
• 30:39
  Peaks last episode. Oh yeah, She is just, you know,
• 30:46
  in Season 1 she's a lot more like, just like cutesy small
• 30:51
  town. But she's one of the characters
• 30:54
  who definitely like you see the influence of the roses on her
• 30:57
  wardrobe over the years 'cause she becomes like a little bit
• 31:01
  more bohemian dressing like Alexis.
• 31:05
  And then by the end when you know Alexis has given her all
• 31:10
  these clothes like they've done like they do at least like 2
• 31:14
  clothing exchanges or like swaps throughout the series.
• 31:19
  Like Twila is one of the characters where you really see
• 31:26
  the roses influence on her through her costume.
• 31:30
  But I also like that. And then also I feel like
• 31:33
  Twyla's also kind of like the kind of out there personality
• 31:37
  too. Like she's, I mean, she's cool
• 31:39
  and cute, but also like she has like these funky prints all the
• 31:43
  time too. Yeah.
• 31:44
  She's kind of like kind of like an oddball.
• 31:46
  So her prints kind of like add to that character a little bit
• 31:49
  too. So she's just kind of like the
• 31:52
  quirky diner girl too. Yeah.
• 31:54
  So 'cause she always has like some fun weird prints that kind
• 31:59
  of like clash of her aprons sometimes.
• 32:02
  Yes, all the time. All the.
• 32:04
  Time. Yeah, it always clashes.
• 32:08
  Always, always clashes. What did not clash, though
• 32:13
  Spencer, was the baseball episode.
• 32:18
  I love the Cafe Tropical tropical baseball uniforms.
• 32:23
  Those are iconic. They're they're so fun.
• 32:27
  I'm like, oh, classic Raglan sleeve.
• 32:31
  I'm like, of course, like David gets like the really classy,
• 32:37
  like Raglan sleeve Cafe Tropical, like he does the all
• 32:43
  white. His glasses match perfectly with
• 32:45
  the hat, like he looked so stylish compared to the Bob's
• 32:51
  garage team. Oh.
• 32:54
  Gosh, Roland looks horrible. Roland looks so bad.
• 32:58
  Those are not like Ronnie is the only person like pulling any of
• 33:04
  this off. She matches it with like the
• 33:06
  cute little jacket in the same color.
• 33:09
  Yeah, of course. But yeah, Roland does not look
• 33:15
  good. Johnny doesn't look great.
• 33:18
  It's not for them. I really like that the way both
• 33:24
  of these look like, OK, they went on to 1 of like they saw
• 33:30
  one of those like print, print your business like ads or Ray is
• 33:37
  running a print your business business like on like they're
• 33:43
  not terribly nice either of them.
• 33:45
  They're like very cookie cutter what anybody can get for
• 33:51
  themselves. And I'm like, this is probably
• 33:54
  one of the times, like, Deborah probably had a good time because
• 33:58
  she was like, you know, at least I'm not, like, hunting down an
• 34:02
  item of vintage clothing. Yeah.
• 34:06
  She just had to pop in order. Yeah, that was, that was easy at
• 34:11
  least. Just had to get the basics.
• 34:13
  Spencer, there is a another major town event I think we need
• 34:19
  to get into. Oh.
• 34:21
  Gosh, yeah, this is a good one. It is the The Crows Have Eyes 3,
• 34:28
  the crooning premiere, but not really premiere.
• 34:31
  It's a watch party, kind of. It's kind of a watch party at
• 34:35
  Town Hall. Yeah, that's a it's a great
• 34:39
  episode. I mean, of course there's the
• 34:43
  premiere, but I just have to call out the incredible moment
• 34:47
  where we just get to see Moira and her, the actual film.
• 34:51
  When we see her covered in feathers, just kind.
• 34:56
  It's so good arms. Straight out, like she's about
• 34:59
  to take flight, Yeah. Yeah, it's so good.
• 35:04
  I can watch that moment forever and over.
• 35:06
  Of course, Myra looks incredible on the red carpet.
• 35:09
  I mean, now we have to say that that's just Catherine O'Hara and
• 35:14
  all of her glitz and glam that we all know.
• 35:17
  I mean, that's just Catherine O'Hara.
• 35:20
  It is all the glitz and glam. All this is one of the few times
• 35:24
  she's not wearing a wig. She's got her great hair
• 35:28
  headpiece and it's like she looks like a rising sun 'cause I
• 35:32
  like this is the first time in a long time.
• 35:35
  You know, Moira's had some some hope for the future for her
• 35:40
  career, which even before they lost everything had been waning.
• 35:46
  So for her, this is really like, she's like, I'm coming back, I'm
• 35:51
  coming back. And I love that Electric Alexis
• 35:56
  just looks like a statue in that gold blemet dress.
• 36:01
  She looks great though, and it's fun to see all the townies
• 36:04
  they're supporting too. Of course.
• 36:06
  Ronnie looks great, actually. Ronnie's on the list for best
• 36:10
  dressed and the shits are doing their best and that's all we can
• 36:15
  ask for. That's all we can ask for.
• 36:18
  I love how like Roland is wearing his like his mayor like
• 36:22
  lanyard thing. Yeah, it's kind of like the Star
• 36:26
  Wars necklace from A New Hope, I guess, you know?
• 36:29
  There's a, there's a name for those and I don't remember what
• 36:33
  it is. And Jocelyn looks so cute, like
• 36:37
  it's a little, it's a little over the top, but you know,
• 36:43
  that's something she bought a long time ago.
• 36:46
  And it has just like she put it on was like, Oh my gosh, this
• 36:50
  looks so good on me. I'm just gonna get it and save
• 36:53
  it for a special occasion. And like this is finally her
• 36:56
  special occasion. Yeah, there you go.
• 36:59
  You got it, Jocelyn. You look great.
• 37:01
  She looks great. You know who else has got it on
• 37:05
  Schitt's Creek? Spencer.
• 37:06
  The BFFS, the boyfriends and the best friends we've got?
• 37:11
  Patrick Brewer. Patrick.
• 37:14
  Looking like the cutest youth pastor that ever walked the
• 37:17
  streets of Schitt's Creek. The simply the best scene,
• 37:23
  always a classic. So adorable and like.
• 37:26
  It's a good one. It's a great one, and I'm just
• 37:31
  like, I forget who in the show compares his wardrobe to that of
• 37:35
  a youth pastor, but I remember the moment I saw that scene for
• 37:39
  the first time and burst out laughing, 'cause I was like,
• 37:42
  it's so true. Like how do you say it?
• 37:46
  Like that's the best way to put it.
• 37:47
  Yeah, I'm like half of the youth pastors I grew up with dressed
• 37:52
  like this, 'cause it's like they want to look, they need to look
• 37:56
  nice 'cause I work at a church, but, you know, like I'm going to
• 37:58
  put jeans on 'cause, you know, I can relate to the kids.
• 38:03
  Well, because like everything he has is very put together, but he
• 38:05
  always has to have like the shirt underneath too.
• 38:08
  Because I mean like God forbid you show any skin though too.
• 38:11
  He's a proper gentleman. Patrick Brewer is.
• 38:15
  But like even like the Henley's though, it's like I gotta have
• 38:17
  like the shirt underneath the under shirt though.
• 38:20
  Like that's that's so like old school though, and.
• 38:27
  There's nothing wrong with it. Like he looks great, you know,
• 38:30
  but it's just he is very like put together, very traditional,
• 38:36
  you know, like not someone you would actually.
• 38:38
  The reason why it works is 'cause he's not someone you
• 38:41
  would imagine with David, which is why they work so well
• 38:44
  together is because they are such opposites, which is the
• 38:48
  whole thing of why you love them together so much.
• 38:52
  In the end, they. Balance each.
• 38:54
  Other's don't make sense together at first.
• 38:56
  No, no. But then they balance each
• 38:59
  other's energy and you're like, oh.
• 39:02
  Yeah. You wanna cry?
• 39:07
  Yeah. Another balancing force in
• 39:10
  Schitt's Creek. Spencer, we have Ted Mullins.
• 39:14
  I, I, my, my relationship with Ted is a little bit more
• 39:18
  complicated than it is with Patrick.
• 39:20
  Really, I wasn't much of A Ted fan.
• 39:24
  I I was not much of A Ted fan at first.
• 39:28
  I think the first season he's a little ridiculous 'cause I'm
• 39:31
  like, I'm sorry, you've known this girl for two weeks and
• 39:34
  you're getting engaged and booking, not just planning,
• 39:40
  booking your honeymoon. Like what?
• 39:46
  And like he has very like kind of Patrick wardrobe vibes in the
• 39:52
  first season. Very traditional button up
• 39:56
  shirts, sweater vests. But if our boy does not have a
• 40:01
  glow up in season 2, well. He has, he has the Lexus effect
• 40:06
  though too. He also suffers from the Lexus
• 40:09
  effect where he does have a glow up in the evolution from being
• 40:13
  around in the Lexus atmosphere or stratosphere.
• 40:17
  And he starts to evolve through clothing because I mean, how
• 40:21
  could he not when you're surrounded by Alexis Rose all
• 40:24
  the time. So he does have a glow up season
• 40:27
  after season. He really does, especially that
• 40:31
  when you see him on the motorcycle, his like white
• 40:34
  T-shirt, jeans, the black motorcycle jacket.
• 40:38
  And I was like, I was like, oh, that's must be mutt.
• 40:41
  And then he, like, takes off his helmet and he's like, Alexis.
• 40:44
  And I was like, when did Ted Mullins get hot, like.
• 40:48
  Yeah. What?
• 40:50
  And then his like Christmas outfit?
• 40:54
  You know I love a Christmas sweater.
• 40:56
  Oh yeah, I mean this. I mean, Ted is kind of the
• 41:03
  caviar guy. Yeah, he's just so cute.
• 41:12
  The Christmas apron. And I was like, yeah, that being
• 41:15
  said, I support Alexis's decision.
• 41:18
  In the end I was very happy that she made it so I'm Team Alexis.
• 41:23
  I was happy they both decided to go their own ways and they both
• 41:27
  seem like content with the choice if not happy.
• 41:32
  And I'm like, my head cannon is like, in a couple years they
• 41:36
  decide to get back together and get married and they go, they go
• 41:40
  elope somewhere crazy. I don't know.
• 41:43
  My head Cannon's kind of like the opposite, but but we don't
• 41:47
  have to go there. We don't.
• 41:49
  Have to go there. That's why it's our head cannon.
• 41:53
  It's our head cannon, but you know what?
• 41:55
  You know who has the best head cannon?
• 41:58
  The best story arc? The story arc.
• 42:00
  None of us expected Spencer. Oh yes, it has to be Stevie.
• 42:05
  Stevie is the best. I love Stevie.
• 42:08
  Stevie is the best. She honestly like she dresses
• 42:13
  like Mutt and Roland most of the time like that.
• 42:19
  If Schitt's Creek had a uniform, it is blue jeans, T-shirt, Plaid
• 42:25
  button down. Well, she's being held down and
• 42:28
  what is essentially a prison in the beginning of this series,
• 42:32
  she is in the Rosebud Motel, sitting there day in and day
• 42:36
  out, just cleaning up after who knows what kind of people were
• 42:41
  in the Rosebud Motel before the roses got there.
• 42:44
  You know, if there are people at all.
• 42:47
  That's true. So what did who, what did she
• 42:51
  have the dress for in the 1st place?
• 42:53
  So, you know, she was barely putting herself together and
• 42:58
  she, her aspirations are 0. There's nothing for Stevie
• 43:04
  really. I, it sounds bad, but there's
• 43:05
  nothing for Stevie to really live for.
• 43:07
  So she's just dressing for, you know, we always talk about dress
• 43:11
  for like the the job you want or dress for the goals you want.
• 43:15
  Like she's dressing for This is it, you know, dressing for being
• 43:20
  the desk person at Rosebud Motel, which is pretty shitty.
• 43:25
  And I mean that in the profanity way this time.
• 43:31
  I'm like, I love like when her and David are sitting outside
• 43:34
  the house in one of the last episodes and it's like she still
• 43:38
  has blue jeans on, but it's like her Plaid shirt is buttoned up
• 43:43
  and tucked in 'cause she's a businesswoman now.
• 43:47
  Her, her hair is up and looks nice.
• 43:49
  Like she doesn't stray too far away from who she is through the
• 43:54
  course of this. But like you said, she gains
• 43:57
  aspiration. She gains, she gains a whole
• 43:59
  business and a life she did not see for herself because the
• 44:05
  roses came along and we're like, hey, you can do things.
• 44:10
  Especially when Moira came along and said she could play Sally in
• 44:18
  cabaret. Yeah, that was so cool.
• 44:21
  The whole cabaret production was so much fun.
• 44:24
  I was very excited about that. I mean, the costumes were
• 44:28
  incredible. So much fun.
• 44:30
  Colors, incredible textures, the like, coral pinks.
• 44:36
  Stevie looked incredible. Yeah, yeah, She looked
• 44:42
  beautiful. And just that moment was so
• 44:44
  emotional too. I mean, it's just everything
• 44:47
  about it. She looked incredible.
• 44:48
  She sounded incredible, everything about it.
• 44:52
  It it was so good. I love how all the cabaret girls
• 44:58
  are in Newt's lips 'cause I always imagined that Moira
• 45:02
  wanted them to be in like pasties and underwear.
• 45:05
  And Jocelyn. Jocelyn said no.
• 45:08
  I. Should believe this is going too
• 45:10
  far. 'Cause it like it's, it's so
• 45:16
  community theater like, but it looks so good and like Patrick
• 45:23
  is like the perfect centerpiece. Yeah, I would go to this
• 45:27
  production hands down. Me Too, Me too.
• 45:30
  And Moira's Sally when she thinks at the last moment she's
• 45:35
  going to have to step in. Of course is flawless.
• 45:40
  Is flawless. The wig, the hat, her waistcoat
• 45:44
  with the brooch. I'm like Moira.
• 45:47
  You know what? You want played Sally before I'm
• 45:50
  guessing? Oh yeah, that was why she was
• 45:53
  like, I guess I'm going to if anyone's going to have to do it,
• 45:55
  it's going to be me. Because if there's one thing we
• 46:01
  know about the Rose family is that they're always ready to
• 46:05
  step up when they feel the need, especially Johnny Rose.
• 46:11
  Let's do it. Let's talk about the Rose
• 46:13
  family. We're saving the best for last.
• 46:16
  I hope you're all sticking with us.
• 46:17
  Of course, we got to do them last.
• 46:21
  Let's talk about Johnny, of course, Played by Eugene Levy,
• 46:26
  Johnny Rose from beginning to end.
• 46:30
  What I admired about his character is no matter how far
• 46:34
  down Johnny Rose fell, he always still made sure to keep it
• 46:39
  together. Just like a very established
• 46:41
  gentleman. He always wore a suit like every
• 46:43
  single day, which is crazy, but he still did it.
• 46:48
  Like it's funny 'cause we always make fun of like Maria Rose for
• 46:51
  her and her wigs, but it's like kind of just as campy of Johnny
• 46:56
  to be wearing a suit every single day, honestly.
• 47:00
  Yes, but it's like it's his armor against the world.
• 47:03
  It's like the last piece of what he sees as himself from his
• 47:08
  life. And like, he's been rich for a
• 47:12
  very, very, very long time. So he's like, this is what I
• 47:17
  wear 'cause I never know who I'm gonna meet.
• 47:22
  I never know what situation I'm gonna be in.
• 47:25
  But I love how he's like the relaxed, laid back rich person,
• 47:28
  'cause like most of the time he doesn't have a tie with that,
• 47:32
  that one button undone at the top.
• 47:36
  I'm like Johnny Rose thinks he's so cool, but it works for him
• 47:41
  'cause he's just he always looks like a a put together gentleman.
• 47:46
  Yeah, yeah, he always looks great.
• 47:49
  And I mean, any he kind of like inspires the town in that way
• 47:53
  too. Like people see Johnny Rose and
• 47:55
  they're like, oh, like who's that guy?
• 47:57
  Like I kind of want to be that guy.
• 48:00
  And he's like something like it's something to like he's sort
• 48:05
  of like an aspiration to others at first.
• 48:07
  He's kind of like off putting, but in the end, like that's what
• 48:11
  kind of like encourages others to like kind of help build up
• 48:14
  this town after a while. So that's, you know, it.
• 48:18
  The armor really does kind of help after a while.
• 48:21
  So I'm glad he never lets go of it.
• 48:23
  Same, especially once he stops just trying to sell the town and
• 48:27
  starts to invest in the town. That's really when people are
• 48:31
  like, oh, OK, this is someone I can look up to who wants to help
• 48:37
  me, someone who takes a little bit longer to become a a role
• 48:42
  model. We have Alexis.
• 48:47
  Oh, Alexis, A little bit of Alexis.
• 48:51
  Alexis is hilarious. It's her style.
• 48:56
  I mean, it's, it's so funny. Does it really ever evolve
• 49:00
  though? Or it's, I mean, it's kind of,
• 49:03
  she kind of does have like a through line though.
• 49:05
  It always has been, like very bohemian, very.
• 49:10
  Oh yeah, and like, she's like a consummate Coachella girl.
• 49:16
  Like she'd always. She loves her son hats.
• 49:19
  She loves actually in my nose. Does she have the owl necklace
• 49:24
  on her? A little bit Alexis neck?
• 49:26
  Yeah, she does. I think.
• 49:29
  I can't tell. I think it is.
• 49:33
  It looks like it. It kind of looks like it maybe,
• 49:37
  I don't know, it could be, but I'm not positive.
• 49:40
  But she's just such a girl's girl.
• 49:46
  And it's like she kind of lives a bohemian lifestyle when you
• 49:50
  think about it. Like my Dan Levy, if you or if
• 49:57
  anybody who knows Dan Levy gets the sound bite to just the sound
• 50:00
  bite to him. I want a one season anthology
• 50:07
  prequel called Alexis Adventures.
• 50:13
  And each episode is just like the whole story of the little
• 50:20
  bits we got. Like you see her get her
• 50:25
  driver's license in the Middle East in a burka.
• 50:28
  You see her negotiate for her friend's like, release in a drug
• 50:34
  Lords, you know, villa by playing billiards.
• 50:39
  Like please. Like just.
• 50:44
  Just one one season, limited series, yeah.
• 50:48
  There doesn't need to be a through line, just each episode
• 50:52
  one story explained. Sure.
• 50:54
  Yeah. It could even be like a mini
• 50:56
  short film. Like that's, that's funny.
• 51:00
  Yeah, you had. Clearly you're working with
• 51:02
  Netflix. Let's bring this to them.
• 51:06
  But yeah, 'cause she, she's, she's a jetsetter.
• 51:08
  She's going here, there everywhere, sleeping in the cabs
• 51:11
  of trucks. So I, I, I, I never quite
• 51:15
  understood why she was so bohemian.
• 51:17
  And then like, as I was working on the slides, as I was thinking
• 51:20
  about it, I was like, oh, wait, no, this like, makes a lot of
• 51:23
  sense that Alexis has such a bohemian look to her, someone
• 51:30
  who's not a bohemian. No, David.
• 51:33
  David. David.
• 51:35
  I love David. I mean, he's just, he's
• 51:40
  everything I want to be. He's always wearing black, just
• 51:46
  he has the coolest outfits. Yeah.
• 51:50
  I, I love David so much. I actually have one of David's
• 51:55
  sweaters somewhere, but I just, I was telling Elizabeth behind
• 51:58
  the scenes I was like, I don't want to tear up my house looking
• 52:01
  for it because I'm not even positive where it's at and it
• 52:04
  would be a disaster. But he always had the coolest
• 52:08
  sweaters. I love the lightning bolt 1.
• 52:12
  He always did like cool geometric shapes, color blocking
• 52:16
  sometimes like the occasional like screen printing.
• 52:20
  Yeah. Skirts over the pants.
• 52:23
  He just kilts. Yeah.
• 52:26
  Oh, so good. The sunglasses, of course,
• 52:28
  iconic, which I'm wearing today. His verbiage sweatshirts, like
• 52:38
  I've you can find them on Etsy. People make them.
• 52:41
  I have wild aloof rebel. Oh gosh, I have something else
• 52:47
  too. But like his radical feminist
• 52:49
  that I like just so funny and like a little bit out of pocket.
• 52:56
  But also I'm like, oh, you have a friend who made all of these
• 53:00
  and like, you support your artist friends.
• 53:03
  So yeah, even if they don't support you.
• 53:06
  So I feel like that's where you got all of these.
• 53:08
  Of course there's like the iconic like 1 where he's like in
• 53:11
  the field. I think it's like an Amish farm.
• 53:14
  I don't know, he's just out on the farm.
• 53:16
  His hoodie. The Mohawk.
• 53:18
  Hoodie. Yeah, holding the pitchfork.
• 53:21
  That's an iconic one. I mean, there's just so many
• 53:25
  good David costumes and it just every episode for like, it was
• 53:30
  something new too. And every single time I would
• 53:33
  just be like, I want that He always had the many rings to
• 53:37
  which I actually have the rings too, but I'm not wearing them
• 53:41
  today 'cause they they hurt. But he always had like a million
• 53:45
  rings on. Yeah, well, it was all.
• 53:48
  All the same, the exact same ring on four fingers.
• 53:52
  Yeah, Oh my gosh. When Patrick proposes and pulls
• 53:55
  out the exact same thing for his left hand.
• 53:58
  Yeah, yeah. Damn it, now I feel like I need
• 54:02
  to go get them. I know where those are, but I
• 54:04
  just didn't want to wear it for the podcast because I knew I'd
• 54:06
  be clicking them on the mic the whole time.
• 54:08
  Yeah, it's OK. It's OK.
• 54:10
  And like, I love like how important David's wardrobe is to
• 54:15
  him. Remember when he tries to like
• 54:16
  sell it at like a flea market? Oh yeah.
• 54:21
  And he just can't do it 'cause they won't give him enough
• 54:23
  money. Yeah.
• 54:24
  He's like, what? No, absolutely not.
• 54:28
  His leather sweater in the middle of summer.
• 54:33
  Just like I didn't know I could be so interested by watching
• 54:38
  someone just wear a sweater every single episode.
• 54:42
  I I love Dan Levy so much and then he like I love sunglasses
• 54:49
  so much. He like he inspired me so much
• 54:52
  with his sunglasses. He ended up starring at
• 54:55
  sunglasses line that was around for a while afterwards too.
• 54:58
  I don't believe it's around anymore, but I ended up buying
• 55:01
  like all the sunglasses after too, like after the show came
• 55:05
  out. So I still wear a lot of those
• 55:06
  too. I was just like, I just want to
• 55:08
  be David Rose. Like I just like so loved all of
• 55:13
  his costumes so such a good one. It's so fair, but honestly,
• 55:19
  Spencer, if I could be anyone from Schitt's Creek, I'd be
• 55:23
  Moira. Oh yeah, I mean, what is there
• 55:29
  to say about Moira Rose? I mean, it's it's the iconic
• 55:36
  Catherine O'Hara. Like she was part, like this
• 55:41
  show would not have worked without her.
• 55:43
  No, not at all. She is like the living heartbeat
• 55:48
  of this show. She was incredible, so funny.
• 55:53
  I mean every single scene she just she makes you laugh so
• 55:58
  hard. It's just like her like shrill
• 56:02
  like screams over the most dramatic or like non dramatic
• 56:07
  things her. Pronunciation of words the Bay
• 56:13
  Bay. My favorite episode I've
• 56:18
  rewatched it a million gazillion times is the wine episode when
• 56:23
  she's trying to do the bird Burlinger fruit wine episode at
• 56:28
  the commercial. Oh my gosh, this sounds funny.
• 56:32
  Gold. Now there's so many good
• 56:36
  costumes of Myra too. I mean, it's, it's like
• 56:39
  impossible to kind of go through the 1,000,000 Myra costumes
• 56:43
  'cause there's a new one every episode.
• 56:45
  Every every episode there's multiple and Moira's costumes
• 56:51
  were very important to Catherine.
• 56:54
  She talked to the LA Times about it, saying Moira put great care
• 56:59
  into how she presents herself. She wants the world to see who
• 57:03
  she really is, which is of course an off centered target.
• 57:11
  I suggested Daphne Guinness, who is a British heiress and a high
• 57:17
  fashion icon, as inspiration for a Moira's look, but otherwise
• 57:22
  just stood there while Deborah and her team and Dan put me
• 57:27
  together in the most beautiful, formidable and hysterical ways.
• 57:36
  Like what else is there? And she also talks a little bit
• 57:43
  about Johnny, saying Johnny's impeccable suits and Moira's
• 57:49
  wearable art tell everyone that these people are not going to
• 57:55
  give up who they think they are. Well-being furloughed from their
• 58:00
  rightful position. I mean, they never change.
• 58:05
  I mean, Moira, from beginning to end, she was like, you could
• 58:08
  take everything from me, but you're not taking my fashion,
• 58:13
  you're not taking my wigs. Like she wouldn't let it go.
• 58:17
  One of my favorite like costumes of Myra is actually her fucking
• 58:24
  pajamas she wears to bed every night because it's like, it's
• 58:28
  like a full suit. Yes, and guess what, Spencer?
• 58:32
  Guess what? Deborah Hanson spoke to the LA
• 58:36
  Times about it. Yes, it's so stupid.
• 58:42
  It's so stupid. It's so wonderful, and Deborah
• 58:46
  told the LA Times. When we did the night clothes as
• 58:51
  pajamas, I felt there wasn't enough going on, not enough
• 58:55
  style. A black fitted men's vest was on
• 58:58
  a rack behind me and I thought, oh, that would be like Marlene
• 59:03
  Dietrich, like a movie star. Moira would like that.
• 59:09
  I thought. I was, yeah.
• 59:10
  Myra would like that. Like what Myra wears to bed is
• 59:15
  like what I would wear to the Costume Designer Guild Awards.
• 59:18
  Yes, so. Over the top.
• 59:21
  So over the top and also Spencer, there is a very
• 59:25
  important piece of Moira's costumes that I did not realize
• 59:30
  till I was reading that LA Times article.
• 59:33
  With just the right amount of exceptions to make you not
• 59:37
  necessarily notice Moira almost exclusively where is black and
• 59:43
  white. Oh, well, I mean, I knew that.
• 59:46
  I mean, that's one of the one one of the things I love about
• 59:50
  Moira. I, I, I'm sure I know you.
• 59:54
  I know that's one of the reasons you love her, but for me it just
• 59:58
  like went over my head, I think because like, I have just been
• 1:00:02
  so caught up in like. The shape and the textures of
• 1:00:06
  her costumes. And you know, like when she goes
• 1:00:09
  to the the like mayor brunch in when she's running for town
• 1:00:13
  council, she wears this beautiful copper number And like
• 1:00:18
  through the years she has like jewelry with color and like she
• 1:00:23
  has wigs that are wild, like seafoam green, like baby pink,
• 1:00:30
  like really crazy colors. So it's not something like I
• 1:00:34
  really noticed 'cause I was caught up in all the other
• 1:00:36
  details, but I was like, Oh my gosh, no wonder.
• 1:00:40
  Despite the fact that she wears the most insane things, her
• 1:00:44
  wardrobe is very consistent. Yeah, it's very consistent.
• 1:00:47
  She uses her wigs. If anything, it's like the pops
• 1:00:50
  of color and I think we like that black and white that she
• 1:00:54
  does. It's like, I don't know, 85% of
• 1:00:58
  the time, black and white, it kind of carries over into
• 1:01:01
  David's wardrobe. I think he takes a lot from his
• 1:01:05
  mother, even though he probably would never admit it, but he is
• 1:01:09
  his mother's son. And that's why David, I feel
• 1:01:12
  like, is very black and white in his wardrobe.
• 1:01:14
  Also, too, my favorite costume. One of my favorite costumes.
• 1:01:21
  You actually have it in our notes, too.
• 1:01:23
  But it was going to be my one costume with them all.
• 1:01:26
  It's actually Myra's. I think it might be her first
• 1:01:29
  time on the town council. Oh, my gosh.
• 1:01:32
  We're so In Sync. It's so inappropriate.
• 1:01:36
  Yeah, But Myra shows up to her first town council meeting and
• 1:01:40
  like this huge like fur muff hat and like this crazy like scale
• 1:01:46
  plasticky top you I it looks like she's might be going to
• 1:01:51
  like Aspen or something, but she's going to a town council
• 1:01:55
  meeting in Schitt's Creek and it's crazy, but it.
• 1:01:58
  Looks like she's trying to go to Russia, like she she wants to
• 1:02:01
  walk down the streets of Moscow. You're.
• 1:02:05
  Just like Mayra, what are you doing?
• 1:02:07
  And it just looks like she's here to seize power of the two.
• 1:02:12
  'Cause she is, 'cause she doesn't understand sharing.
• 1:02:17
  And it's so crazy, but I love it so much because it's just like
• 1:02:21
  she sits down and everyone's like, Oh my God.
• 1:02:24
  And you're just like, it's just so wildly inappropriate.
• 1:02:28
  It's so. Appropriate.
• 1:02:30
  So much it's like. It's so out of touch, it's so
• 1:02:33
  perfect. One of my favorite Myra costume
• 1:02:39
  moments is the episode where everyone it is mistakenly
• 1:02:42
  reported that she has died and everyone in the town thinks
• 1:02:47
  she's dead and she goes to the jazzy gal rehearsal looking like
• 1:02:55
  Jesus saying she hath arisen and I'm like Myra.
• 1:03:01
  How did you have like a one sleeved white tunic long tunic
• 1:03:07
  dress just like laying around so it looked like Jesus walking
• 1:03:13
  into rehearsal? Like what?
• 1:03:18
  Although quite frankly, I don't think anything anything from
• 1:03:24
  Wyra's wardrobe compares to the master costuming Deborah Hanson
• 1:03:34
  performed in the final episode for David and Patrick's wedding.
• 1:03:39
  That was wild. We we were not ready.
• 1:03:42
  We all knew like that. First of all, we were all
• 1:03:46
  nervous for the episode because we all knew we were going to cry
• 1:03:48
  non-stop. And when it came we just like
• 1:03:52
  how's this going look? And when you see Myra show up in
• 1:03:55
  that, like, Pope look like, I just remember, like the world
• 1:03:59
  just being taken, like at where all of our breaths were taken at
• 1:04:02
  the same time. It is so, again, so wildly
• 1:04:06
  inappropriate. And yet the most perfect costume
• 1:04:10
  you've like, ever seen in your life is so good.
• 1:04:14
  It should be in the Smithsonian. It should be.
• 1:04:18
  And Dan Levy talked about this iconic costume quite a bit,
• 1:04:23
  saying the minute Catherine found out she was going to
• 1:04:28
  officiate, she came up with the idea of what if we dressed her
• 1:04:33
  kind of like the Pope. And the.
• 1:04:36
  Minute we had that direction, everything really sort of fell
• 1:04:42
  into place. She had the idea for the
• 1:04:45
  headpiece. She wanted to have a little bit
• 1:04:47
  of her hair wrapped around the hat and Anna Sorries.
• 1:04:53
  Sorry if I mispronounced that. The hair stylist for both Alexis
• 1:04:58
  and Myra on the show just spent months trying to figure out how
• 1:05:04
  to make that. Hat.
• 1:05:06
  With the hair on it. Finally she did and if anyone I
• 1:05:14
  I knew if we put in any information about the wigs, this
• 1:05:17
  episode would just go on forever.
• 1:05:19
  But if you want to know more about Myra's wigs, Elle has a
• 1:05:24
  great article called Schitt's Schitt's Creek is Over but
• 1:05:29
  Myra's Wig Collection Will Never Die by Emma Frazier.
• 1:05:33
  It is a it is a great article. If you want to know more, go
• 1:05:37
  check it out. That's fantastic.
• 1:05:40
  And, you know, the evolution of this look just kept going, Dan
• 1:05:46
  said. I remember having this vision in
• 1:05:49
  my head and I ended up waking up at like 3:00 in the morning
• 1:05:54
  texting Anna, saying I think she should have a very, very, very,
• 1:05:59
  very, very long blonde hair. And I think it should be kind of
• 1:06:05
  curled like a Botticelli painting.
• 1:06:09
  I think that's the vibe. And I think it should be on
• 1:06:12
  either side. And I think they should be long.
• 1:06:15
  And I think we need jewelry. Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  It's it's wild. It has everything on it.
• 1:06:21
  And like this whole scene, like it is the perfect top, the top
• 1:06:28
  of the sweating cake. Because like Patrick and Johnny,
• 1:06:35
  both very classic men, both looking fantastic and they're
• 1:06:39
  tailored to within an inch of their life.
• 1:06:41
  Suits. Stevie has like so come into her
• 1:06:44
  own. She has this beautiful suit on.
• 1:06:49
  Yeah, of course. Alexis bought what she knew she
• 1:06:52
  would look killer in and then so much comedy last minute realize
• 1:06:58
  she looks like a bride. Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  Wearing, I mean, she looks incredible, but she is wearing
• 1:07:03
  white. She does look like she's here to
• 1:07:05
  get married and. She like when she's walking
• 1:07:09
  David down the aisle and like everyone's like, they're not
• 1:07:14
  getting married right like. It's so stupid.
• 1:07:17
  It's. So stupid.
• 1:07:19
  It's so funny. And like David with like the
• 1:07:23
  combat boots that kill his his socks he always wears and then
• 1:07:29
  topped with like the perfect tux and bow tie like.
• 1:07:34
  I cried so much when I watched this episode I I actually
• 1:07:39
  haven't seen it since. Honestly, I kind of refuse.
• 1:07:42
  I, I think I've maybe watched it one other time, but I, I got
• 1:07:45
  choked up again. So I was like, OK.
• 1:07:49
  And Dan Levy talked about this moment, saying the minute it all
• 1:07:56
  came together, it felt like such a celebration of character, but
• 1:08:01
  also felt like a celebration of the costume department.
• 1:08:04
  It felt like a celebration of the hair and makeup departments.
• 1:08:07
  I think we did something right here, I think.
• 1:08:12
  And they did. They did.
• 1:08:15
  Dan Levy, you really did something right with this entire
• 1:08:19
  series. We talk, I mean, not us, but
• 1:08:22
  like, the culture talks so much about so many shows that like
• 1:08:26
  gets things wrong at the very end.
• 1:08:29
  You know, in this show, like that last episode, like they hit
• 1:08:34
  it home so hard. It was such a perfect ending.
• 1:08:38
  Like it was flawless victory. It was so good.
• 1:08:42
  Like I just remember like everyone watched that final
• 1:08:45
  episode and just everyone was like so satisfied.
• 1:08:48
  And then they had the documentary that came out right
• 1:08:51
  after. It was just like the final blow.
• 1:08:53
  Like it was like the perfect ending, perfect episode.
• 1:08:56
  Costumes were great. Like it was just everything
• 1:08:59
  about it was phenomenal. So it was fantastic.
• 1:09:04
  It was so perfect. The wedding was the perfect
• 1:09:09
  ending, Spencer. I think I need a little bit of a
• 1:09:12
  break before we finish this out. Yeah, I need a little water
• 1:09:18
  break after that. Do we even need to discuss this
• 1:09:25
  stitch rating on this? No, Hell no.
• 1:09:30
  That's easy. I mean, Schitt's Creek is
• 1:09:32
  perfect, baby Angel. It's a 5 out of five.
• 1:09:35
  It's a 5 out of five stitches. This thing came together from
• 1:09:40
  costume, acting, hair, makeup, set, cinematography, everything
• 1:09:49
  is perfect. When we give Stitch ratings, we
• 1:09:52
  compare your show to Schitt's Creek, actually.
• 1:09:55
  Honestly, yeah. If you're a comedy, at least.
• 1:09:59
  So. Well, let's try and do one
• 1:10:05
  costume rule them all, even though we might have spoiled
• 1:10:07
  some of our surprises. Are you ready, Elizabeth?
• 1:10:10
  I am hit it the one costume to rule them all.
• 1:10:20
  All right, Elizabeth. Well, I kind of already blew it,
• 1:10:22
  but my one costume rule them all is, of course, Myra's wildly
• 1:10:27
  inappropriate town council look with the big black furry hat and
• 1:10:33
  the like, sharp pointy black top.
• 1:10:36
  The big bag. It just looks like she's
• 1:10:40
  supposed to be in Moscow or going to Aspen.
• 1:10:43
  Looks like basically anywhere wintery that is just not the
• 1:10:48
  Shit's Creek town. Council like that, that is like
• 1:10:55
  110% who that character is the ruin through.
• 1:11:00
  It just says so much about Myra and what her intentions are for
• 1:11:05
  this town council, which has nothing to do with being a
• 1:11:08
  leader, which is so funny to me. It really, really doesn't.
• 1:11:15
  It has to do with her filling up her days so she doesn't go
• 1:11:17
  crazy. If I had to pick a alternate,
• 1:11:21
  I'll just say this since I kind of blew my surprise earlier,
• 1:11:24
  I'll give my honorable mention to Myra Rose's bedtime Pajama
• 1:11:29
  suit. Yes.
• 1:11:31
  That's a good one. That's a good honorable mention.
• 1:11:34
  It's a great honorable mention, actually.
• 1:11:41
  All right, what about you, Elizabeth?
• 1:11:42
  MY1 costume to roll them all is Myra's Pope look like.
• 1:11:47
  Yeah, of course. Like, not her final final look
• 1:11:51
  of the series, but the final look you remember.
• 1:11:55
  Yeah. I mean this, I mean this wrapped
• 1:11:57
  it up. This is what we submitted to the
• 1:11:59
  Ambience, you know. And like in the show she
• 1:12:02
  literally got this whole get up together in like a couple hours
• 1:12:09
  'cause she didn't know she was officiating till the day of the
• 1:12:12
  wedding. Even though it took months of
• 1:12:14
  preparation in real life. Months of preparation and like
• 1:12:18
  the just the whole idea that like Moira just had this ready
• 1:12:23
  that like she was like, oh, yes, this is appropriate.
• 1:12:26
  Even though it's not appropriate, although it's her
• 1:12:28
  son's wedding. Like, like honestly like the way
• 1:12:32
  it all comes together in this final fairy tale ending.
• 1:12:39
  Chef's kiss. Yeah.
• 1:12:41
  Like. It's it's.
• 1:12:43
  Perfect. It's perfect.
• 1:12:44
  I'll give my honorable mention to her.
• 1:12:46
  Jesus has risen. Look like she knows how to bring
• 1:12:54
  a religious analogy around. Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  I I remember the exact moment when she's walking down the
• 1:12:59
  street. It's such a good one.
• 1:13:03
  And I just want to say again, like, rest in peace to the great
• 1:13:06
  Catherine O'Hara. I was just so devastated when I
• 1:13:09
  heard, you know, she's just one of the greatest actresses ever.
• 1:13:15
  Yeah. Beetlejuice Home Alone.
• 1:13:19
  I've been watching Nightmare Before Christmas since I was.
• 1:13:22
  I mean, before I could, Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:13:26
  I mean. Was watching it before I knew
• 1:13:28
  who she was. Yeah, I just, I love Catherine
• 1:13:31
  O'Hara. She's in the studio.
• 1:13:35
  Just so funny. Go back and just watch her early
• 1:13:38
  work with Eugene Levy also. Yeah, I just, I think after
• 1:13:43
  listening to this podcast, just go back and look up some of her
• 1:13:46
  early work outside of Schitt's Creek 2.
• 1:13:48
  Just such a comedic genius. She's just so missed.
• 1:13:54
  Just one of the best. And I don't know, it's just
• 1:13:57
  like, I'm going to miss her. And I'm just so glad that we
• 1:14:01
  have Schitt's Creek to look back on forever and ever and be able
• 1:14:04
  to rewatch because it's just such a perfect show.
• 1:14:07
  And I'm so glad we got characters like Moira Rose,
• 1:14:10
  Lydia Dietz, the Home Alone Mom Sally, and Nightmare for
• 1:14:14
  Christmas to look back on and just revisit and just have these
• 1:14:18
  laughs, these good memories, these good cries.
• 1:14:21
  Because just Catherine O'Hara was just such a creative artist
• 1:14:27
  who was just able to make us laugh, make us cry, make us feel
• 1:14:30
  all the feels. And I just, I hope that she felt
• 1:14:35
  celebrated in life as much as she is now because she just, to
• 1:14:38
  me, was just one of the most perfect artist.
• 1:14:40
  And I hope that we were able to do just a little little bit of
• 1:14:44
  justice to that. Just even just how incredible
• 1:14:48
  she was in terms of costumes, which I know, I hope she knows
• 1:14:52
  how incredible she was in terms of the world of costume.
• 1:14:56
  But she'll be missed. And Catherine Hara, we love you.
• 1:14:59
  So with that, e-mail us at theartofcostume@gm.com.
• 1:15:04
  Let us know what your favorite Schitt's Creek costumes.
• 1:15:08
  I'm sure you have a litany of them.
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  Maybe you've been keeping a list over of us over us rambling for
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  the past hour and 20 something minutes.
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  Follow us on Instagram at the art of costume pod TikTok at the
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  art of costume. We have a merch start the art of
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  costume.com/pod Store. And as always, leave us a five
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  star text review on Apple on Apple Podcast.
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  And like I mentioned at the top of the episode, go check out my
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  Netflix special, The Art of Costume Live with three costume
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  designers. You could listen to it where
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  you're listening to the Art of Costume right now.
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  So just go check it out. It's in our feed or it's on
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  YouTube and you can watch it and see me in HD.
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  So I know I look kind of tan honestly in that footage.
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  I know I was kind of, I don't know if they put a filter on.
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  I mean, I did go, oh, do you know where I got tan from?
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  Where from When we went to the Renaissance Fair?
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  That'll do it. That'll do it.
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  I'm actually a little sunburnt on the the forehead a little bit
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  it was. Quite sunburnt when we got back
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  from that. But the rest of it kind of
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  turned into a tan. That's good, right?
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  In right in time, yeah. Yeah, so it kind of worked out
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  for the Netflix special, but, well, we'll leave that for the
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  audience to decide. Elizabeth, what is in our next
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  episode going to be about? I am so excited we are watching
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  a movie I've never seen before. We are watching the 1996 cult
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  classic The Birdcage. Oh man, this is a good one.
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  We've got Robin Williams, Nathan Lane, Gene Hackman, other big
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  stars Who. Christine Baranski.
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  Christine Baranski like it is just.
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  I am so excited. I've never seen it.
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  I can't wait to go watch. It I haven't seen it in a
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  million years, so, but I know it's hilarious.
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  There's just like one specific part I've seen like a million
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  times I'm excited to revisit. But it's a good one full of
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  great costumes by Anne Roth, of course.
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  So you know, they're good. One of the goats.
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  And before I let you all go, I just want to say another some
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  more sad news. But we got to address it.
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  As many of you might have heard, legendary costume designer
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  Albert Wolski did pass away on May 23rd, 2026 and I just wanted
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  to give our condolences. He is such an incredible costume
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  designer. His extraordinary body work
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  included grease. I mean, we are talking about the
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  grease which has inspired countless costume designers and
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  creatives. He also did All That Jazz,
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  Bugsy, Sophie's Choice, You've Got Mail, Galaxy Quest, Rota,
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  Perdition, The Manchurian Candidate, Cross Universe,
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  Birdman, Ad Astra, and so many more.
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  I believe he did almost 100 films as well as theater.
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  He received 7 Academy Award nominations and won two Oscars
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  for All That Jazz and Bugsy. In 1999, he's honored with the
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  inaugural CDGA Career Achievement Award and later
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  received a 2010 TDF Irene Sheriff Award for Sustained
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  Excellence and Costume Design. I just wanted to shout out that
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  the Cami Museum is showing Bugsy and 35mm on July 15th, 2026 and
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  adult tickets are only $10. I just think it's a great way to
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  celebrate the artistry of Albert Wolski with this showing of
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  Bugsy. I'm going to be there just
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  hanging out with fellow film nerds just watching Bugsy.
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  I've actually never seen it and it's a great way to see it in
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  35mm in the huge David Geffen theater, seeing Albert's work on
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  a big screen. So I hope you all come out.
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  His work is legendary. We've never done Albert Wolski
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  film on the. Podcast but.
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  We have. Galaxy Quest.
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  Oh my God, we did, you get? Yes, we did.
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  You're so right. We did the Galaxy Quest.
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  We had Daniel on. Of course.
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  I'm like, we would never do Galaxy Quest.
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  We did do Galaxy Quest. You're so right.
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  Go back and listen to our Galaxy Quest episode.
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  I can't believe me. I got us to the Galaxy Quest.
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  You're so right. We did the Galaxy Quest.
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  Go back and listen to our Galaxy Quest episode.
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  But we got to do more Albert Wolski episodes.
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  Why I should say we should do Grease or All That Jazz or
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  Bugsy. But rest in peace Albert Wolski,
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  you were a legend. Your work will live on.
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  Costume nerds, we love you and we will see you next week in the
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  Bird Cage. Have a great week everybody.