Latest / Earn Your Leisure / Why Trademarking Before Launching Your Business is Crucial
Transcript
- 0:01Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by P and C Bank.
- 0:04Speaker 1: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring,
- 0:07Speaker 1: and sure they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals
- 0:10Speaker 1: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little,
- 0:14Speaker 1: day after day. It's like banking with P and C Bank.
- 0:18Speaker 1: It might seem boring to safe plan and make calculated
- 0:21Speaker 1: decisions with your bank, but keeping your money boring is
- 0:24Speaker 1: what helps you live or more happily fulfilled life. P
- 0:28Speaker 1: and C Bank Brilliantly Boring since eighteen sixty five. Brilliantly
- 0:32Speaker 1: Boring since eighteen sixty five is a service mark of
- 0:35Speaker 1: the PNC Financial Service Group, Inc. P and C Bank
- 0:39Speaker 1: National Association Member FDIC erness What's Up? You ever walk
- 0:45Speaker 1: into a small business and everything just works like the
- 0:49Speaker 1: checkout is fast, the receipts are digital, tipping is a breeze,
- 0:53Speaker 1: and you're out the door before the line even builds.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Odds are they're using Square? We love supporting business that
- 1:00Speaker 1: run on Square because it just feels seamless. Whether it's
- 1:03Speaker 1: a local coffee shop, a vendor at a pop up market,
- 1:06Speaker 1: or even one of our merch partners. Square makes it
- 1:09Speaker 1: easy for them to take payments, manage inventory, and run
- 1:12Speaker 1: their business with confidence, all from one simple system. If
- 1:16Speaker 1: you're a business owner or even just thinking about launching
- 1:19Speaker 1: something soon, Square is hands down one of the best
- 1:22Speaker 1: tools out there to help you start, run and grow.
- 1:25Speaker 1: It's not just about payments, it's about giving you time
- 1:29Speaker 1: back so you can focus on what matters most ready.
- 1:32Speaker 1: To see how Square can transform your business, visit Square
- 1:35Speaker 1: dot com backslash go backslash eyl to learn more that
- 1:40Speaker 1: Square dot com backslash, go backslash eyl. Don't wait, don't hesitate.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep
- 1:48Speaker 1: pushing your vision forward.
- 1:51Speaker 2: So why do business owners need to trademark their business
- 1:54Speaker 2: before launching? So I always ask people, will you build
- 1:58Speaker 2: a house on lane? You don't? I'm gonna ask you guys,
- 2:01Speaker 2: will you build a house on land you don't own?
- 2:04Speaker 1: I didn't?
- 2:05Speaker 2: No, right, right cause it makes sense, right, you're gonna
- 2:09Speaker 2: before we build houses in America, Right, we go and
- 2:12Speaker 2: we do a title search on the land and make
- 2:13Speaker 2: sure no one owns the lands. There's no leans on
- 2:16Speaker 2: the land or anything like that. Because if we go
- 2:18Speaker 2: and we just start building a house on land and
- 2:20Speaker 2: we haven't cleared the land, the owner of the land
- 2:23Speaker 2: can come tear that house down. Right. It's the same
- 2:25Speaker 2: equivalent when it comes to building a business on a
- 2:28Speaker 2: brand name and you don't own the name, right. And
- 2:31Speaker 2: so being that I have been practicing this law for
- 2:34Speaker 2: ten years, I have seen where people have invested their
- 2:37Speaker 2: four one K plans or took out money, you know,
- 2:40Speaker 2: from their retirement to invest in product and marketing material,
- 2:45Speaker 2: only for it to be torn down by the rifle owner. Right.
- 2:49Speaker 2: So I tell people, before we build brands and we
- 2:51Speaker 2: build businesses, we want to make sure we're clearing the
- 2:54Speaker 2: name and we're actually owning that name, so everything that
- 2:57Speaker 2: we're building on top of it is ours now. Okay.
- 3:01Speaker 1: So if we got to get the name to make
- 3:03Speaker 1: sure that we own it, what where are we going
- 3:05Speaker 1: to search for this? Like? Are there specific sites? I
- 3:08Speaker 1: feel like most people have no idea. They'll just type
- 3:10Speaker 1: in trade and whatever Google tells them that's what we're using.
- 3:12Speaker 1: It might not be the most accurate thing. So what
- 3:15Speaker 1: sites are we going through to ensure that if we
- 3:17Speaker 1: use this name, we can own this name.
- 3:18Speaker 2: That's a great question. So what I would first start
- 3:21Speaker 2: is with the USPTO dot gov and make sure it
- 3:24Speaker 2: says dot gov and not dot com, right, because there
- 3:27Speaker 2: can be some you know, fraudulent sites and things like that.
- 3:31Speaker 2: So start with the USPTO dot gov, and you want
- 3:33Speaker 2: to start broad because you want to see does anybody
- 3:36Speaker 2: own the name? But also too, this is where it's
- 3:39Speaker 2: important to hire an attorney because under the law it's
- 3:42Speaker 2: not about what's the same, but what can be deemed
- 3:44Speaker 2: confusingly similar. So if you go to the USPTO dot
- 3:47Speaker 2: gov and you search Starbucks, right, probably nothing will come
- 3:52Speaker 2: up and you'll be like, oh, I'm good, I can
- 3:53Speaker 2: go start a coffee company. Well, Starbucks is going to
- 3:56Speaker 2: have a problem with that, because under the law it's
- 3:59Speaker 2: not about what's the same ain't, but what can be
- 4:00Speaker 2: deemed confusingly similar. So first I would start there, and
- 4:04Speaker 2: then I would start with Google, and then possibly social
- 4:07Speaker 2: media handles as well, and then just searching domains. But
- 4:10Speaker 2: it's also important that we understand the nuances of the law. Right.
- 4:14Speaker 2: There's forty five different classes under trademark law, and sometimes
- 4:18Speaker 2: you can have brands that co exist in a marketplace.
- 4:22Speaker 2: That's why we have the chocolate doft soap, mac Makeup,
- 4:25Speaker 2: Mac Computer, Delta Airline, Delta, Falsett, Pandora Jewelry, Pandora Music.
- 4:29Speaker 2: So your name might come up. But if it's a
- 4:32Speaker 2: plummet industry and you're in a beauty industry, you make
- 4:34Speaker 2: and coexist. Right. But where a lot of times people
- 4:37Speaker 2: fall short entrepreneurs is they will say, Okay, my name
- 4:41Speaker 2: is available, I'm gonna file the name, and they just
- 4:45Speaker 2: pick a class and now they think they own that
- 4:47Speaker 2: name in its entirety. You know. Recently I seen an
- 4:51Speaker 2: interview from Caesar from Black Ink, and he talked about
- 4:54Speaker 2: how he actually was surprised when he had his dog
- 4:58Speaker 2: find an issue that he was let go from a show,
- 5:00Speaker 2: the show that he thought he owned because he created
- 5:04Speaker 2: black Ink and a black Ink brand. Well, what season
- 5:07Speaker 2: didn't know was and he filed his own trademarks too,
- 5:10Speaker 2: and he thought he had his trademarks register, but he
- 5:13Speaker 2: filed him for Tattooon Services and I think for a peril.
- 5:16Speaker 2: But when he did his deal with Viacom with the
- 5:19Speaker 2: reality show, they went and filed the name for entertainment services.
- 5:24Speaker 2: And so there's a big difference there. So it's important
- 5:26Speaker 2: that you understand those nuances.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And so inside that we shouldn't do this on our own.
- 5:31Speaker 1: So some people will say, I can do I can
- 5:34Speaker 1: figure this out by myself. Get an attorney.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Get an attorney. I have about five thousand clients, and
- 5:39Speaker 2: a fourth of them either did in themselves first and
- 5:43Speaker 2: then they had to come to us later, or they
- 5:45Speaker 2: went to one of these in internet sourcing companies right,
- 5:49Speaker 2: thinking they're hiring someone who would guide them and lead them.
- 5:53Speaker 2: But they're just really data transfer companies where they'll take
- 5:56Speaker 2: your data and transfer it into the information system in
- 6:00Speaker 2: an LLC or corporation enough to have for ownership in
- 6:03Speaker 2: the business. And so that is also a great question.
- 6:06Speaker 2: And the reason is is because as business owners, I
- 6:10Speaker 2: always say an educated entrepreneur is a successful one. We
- 6:13Speaker 2: have to understand the different legal vehicles and why they're here, right.
- 6:18Speaker 2: And a lot of times people think, oh, if I
- 6:20Speaker 2: got an LLC, I'm good. But the LLC might not
- 6:23Speaker 2: even be the best entity type for you, right. But
- 6:26Speaker 2: what we need to understand is what comes with that
- 6:29Speaker 2: formation of an entity. So under the law, when we
- 6:33Speaker 2: file our entities, whether it's an LLC or a corporation
- 6:36Speaker 2: or partnership, under the law, under our secretary of state.
- 6:40Speaker 2: We're forming in it within our state. But that says
- 6:44Speaker 2: that by us creating that company, it's going to give
- 6:47Speaker 2: us a legal shield to protect us, the individual owner,
- 6:51Speaker 2: from any legal liability that is to arise out of
- 6:54Speaker 2: our business. We also may get some tax benefits from
- 6:58Speaker 2: that as well. Right, But no, no wherein the law
- 7:00Speaker 2: does it says it's going to give you exclusive ownership
- 7:03Speaker 2: rights to that name. Right, So you could form your
- 7:06Speaker 2: business let's say in the state of Illinois, but if
- 7:09Speaker 2: someone owns the trademark and Illinois said you can have
- 7:13Speaker 2: this business name. But if someone owns the trademark, let's
- 7:16Speaker 2: say in the state of Florida, they can shet your
- 7:19Speaker 2: business now in Illinois. So that's why it's important as
- 7:22Speaker 2: business owners we understand these different legal vehicles and how
- 7:26Speaker 2: they work and how they're set up to protect us.
- 7:29Speaker 2: The trademark is there to protect our name, our logos,
- 7:32Speaker 2: our slogans, and not a lot of people know. But
- 7:35Speaker 2: you can also trademark a sound as well, like you
- 7:38Speaker 2: got mail.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Interesting, so you brought up the state things. So now
- 7:41Speaker 1: it makes me wonder there's a difference between filing the
- 7:46Speaker 1: trademark and the state. Can we file federally as well,
- 7:50Speaker 1: So like talk about the nuances and that that's.
- 7:52Speaker 2: A great question as well, because you can file your
- 7:55Speaker 2: trademark on the state level, right, but when you file
- 7:59Speaker 2: it federally, you get a lot more coverage. And I
- 8:02Speaker 2: always say technology is moving faster than the law. So
- 8:05Speaker 2: back in the day, you used to have to prove
- 8:08Speaker 2: interstate commerce in order to give federal registration. So a
- 8:12Speaker 2: lot of people used the state law system to file
- 8:15Speaker 2: their trademarks when before the Internet, right, Because now that
- 8:18Speaker 2: we have the Internet, as long as your business is
- 8:21Speaker 2: a ww dot com or you're on social media and
- 8:24Speaker 2: you're offering your services or your products to anyone across
- 8:29Speaker 2: the royal basically now you have interstate commerce. So with
- 8:33Speaker 2: the Internet, it kind of took that away. So you
- 8:35Speaker 2: want to go for the broader coverage most as possible
- 8:39Speaker 2: because you know there is a case and it arise
- 8:43Speaker 2: out of the state of Illinois, and it was in
- 8:45Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties where there was this restaurant, a small
- 8:49Speaker 2: mom and pop restaurant and they sold burger shakes and fries, right,
- 8:54Speaker 2: and so then there was a Florida restaurant that adopted
- 8:58Speaker 2: the same name and they old burger shakes and fries
- 9:01Speaker 2: as well, and so the Florida restaurant began to grow
- 9:05Speaker 2: very fast and very rapidly. And there was supposed to
- 9:09Speaker 2: be an agreement that they will never come into the
- 9:12Speaker 2: state of Illinois. Well, we know money talk and buy
- 9:15Speaker 2: craft walk, and they came in the state of Illinois. Well,
- 9:18Speaker 2: the state of Illinois restaurant filed a declaratory judgment under
- 9:22Speaker 2: federal law to kick them out of the state of Illinois,
- 9:25Speaker 2: and the court accid them. In the state of Illinois,
- 9:27Speaker 2: they were the first users, right. The court accid them, well,
- 9:31Speaker 2: how far does your customers come to your restaurant? And
- 9:35Speaker 2: this is a restaurant it's like in Matoon, Illinois, which
- 9:39Speaker 2: is like maybe like two hundred miles south of Chicago,
- 9:42Speaker 2: but it's right off a major highway in Illinois. And
- 9:47Speaker 2: they said, well, they come from about a twenty mil radius.
- 9:50Speaker 2: And so the court said, okay, well this company cannot
- 9:53Speaker 2: come within a twenty mile radius of your restaurant. But
- 9:57Speaker 2: now you can't go outside of twenty mil radius of
- 9:59Speaker 2: you restaurant because they have the federal registration and unfortunately
- 10:03Speaker 2: federal trump state. So at do you know, like they
- 10:08Speaker 2: boxed them in. But what's the name of that company?
- 10:10Speaker 2: Can you guys imagine, like, what was the name of
- 10:13Speaker 2: that restaurant, McDonald's. That's my first I McDonald's. What's the
- 10:19Speaker 2: other one? Burger King. So if you google right now
- 10:25Speaker 2: the original Burger King, it's still gonna come up today
- 10:29Speaker 2: and it's twenty twenty four and that restaurant in Withsoon
- 10:33Speaker 2: Illinois is still open as the original Burger King.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Again, there was another Burger King.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Before Burger King, exactly in Illinois. So the big corporation
- 10:43Speaker 2: Burger King. It originated out of Florida, out of the
- 10:46Speaker 2: state of Florida, but the state of Illinois Burger King.
- 10:50Speaker 2: They were the first users, but they didn't have federal registration.
- 10:55Speaker 2: So that's why it's so important that we are. They're
- 10:58Speaker 2: still there to this day. It's one store. It's just
- 11:01Speaker 2: one store because they can never grow outside of that
- 11:04Speaker 2: twenty mile radius.
- 11:05Speaker 1: They could put like four stores inside the twenty miles,
- 11:07Speaker 1: but they don't make sense.
- 11:08Speaker 2: They wouldn't even matter.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Is not Burger King.
- 11:11Speaker 2: It's a restaurant, a fast food. It's a restaurant and
- 11:13Speaker 2: they sell burger shakes and fries and it's called the
- 11:16Speaker 2: original Burger King. So if you ever google Burger Kington, Illinois,
- 11:21Speaker 2: it will come up so with.
- 11:22Speaker 1: The I mean, that's an incredible story, but it makes
- 11:25Speaker 1: more sense to file federally or is it? Yes, I
- 11:28Speaker 1: think it's more expensive as well.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Well it is, but sometimes the state registration is not
- 11:33Speaker 2: as it's effective and impact of as you need it
- 11:37Speaker 2: to be, especially in a day and age where the
- 11:39Speaker 2: internet is here. Right, and see another thing why that
- 11:42Speaker 2: story is so important is because trademarks are legacy builders. Right.
- 11:46Speaker 2: A trademark can outlive you. Coca Cola been registered since
- 11:50Speaker 2: eighteen ninety three, Mercedes since nineteen oh three, right, and
- 11:54Speaker 2: so a trademark can like so the original people who
- 11:58Speaker 2: created that Burger King that that was a family owned business,
- 12:01Speaker 2: so imagine what they could have did and expanded with
- 12:04Speaker 2: their company. But they are now attached to this judgment
- 12:07Speaker 2: out of federal court since the nineteen sixties, so it
- 12:11Speaker 2: limited their legacy. So I always tell people you want
- 12:14Speaker 2: to secure your brand, not only to secure your bag,
- 12:16Speaker 2: but you want to secure your brand so you can
- 12:18Speaker 2: secure your legacy.
- 12:20Speaker 3: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
- 12:23Speaker 3: in Massachusetts, an MS thirteen gang member from El Salvador
- 12:27Speaker 3: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with
- 12:32Speaker 3: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just
- 12:36Speaker 3: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
- 12:39Speaker 3: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy Noman, the United States
- 12:43Speaker 3: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border
- 12:48Speaker 3: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over
- 12:51Speaker 3: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you
- 12:55Speaker 3: were here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly
- 12:59Speaker 3: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will
- 13:03Speaker 3: never return. But if you register using our CBP home
- 13:06Speaker 3: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.
- 13:10Speaker 3: Do what's right.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Leave now.
- 13:13Speaker 3: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,