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Speaker 1: Is the gold reform.
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Speaker 2: It Tonight, here we go again the government bans yet
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Speaker 2: another Jewish speaker, while the Western Sydney Hospital makes a
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Speaker 2: Jewish woman use an Anglo name to keep her safe. Well,
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Speaker 2: so tonight, should we really ban burning the Australian flag?
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Speaker 2: This is outrage now after an activist does it again.
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Speaker 2: Plus an education minister orders schools to make children sing
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Speaker 2: the national anthem.
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Speaker 1: Two verses of it. So much more tonight.
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Speaker 2: But first, I've said before the theme of this year
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Speaker 2: will be Australian's fighting back against the people trying to
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Speaker 2: divide us. And tonight more good news because that change
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Speaker 2: really does seem to be on and the news is
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Speaker 2: not just what I showed you last night. Crowds of
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Speaker 2: yesterday's invasion Day ceremonies or protests, they were.
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Speaker 1: Down in Melbourne, way down.
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Speaker 2: In fact, it's my duty now to do about the
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Speaker 2: last thing he might expect, maybe that some of you
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Speaker 2: even want. I must praise the Prime Minister, praise Anthony Aberzi.
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Speaker 2: Now I think this man who tried to divide us
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Speaker 2: by race with a voice, did divide us by pandering
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Speaker 2: to the Muslim vote, by attacking Israel. I must thank
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Speaker 2: the man who flies three flags and let in record
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Speaker 2: numbers of immigrants, who even gave tourist visas to three
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Speaker 2: thousand people from terrorist Roum Gaza. And now thank albin
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Speaker 2: Ezi because I think he finally gets it, or maybe
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Speaker 2: just reads the polls. And Caesar Strains are suddenly very
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Speaker 2: very worried that we're being torn apart.
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Speaker 1: Howban is his speech.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday at the national flag racing ceremonies, who immigrants about
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Speaker 2: to get their citizenship certificates stress like never before, how
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Speaker 2: they should not just love this country but drop any
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Speaker 2: nasty cultural baggage.
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Speaker 3: A commitment that every citizen makes to our nation, and
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Speaker 3: a promise our people make to each other to leave
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Speaker 3: behind the burden of old prejudices and hatreds.
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Speaker 2: And in an opinion piece for the same day, Albinizi
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Speaker 2: went even further, saying that margrants must and note this,
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Speaker 2: must pledge loyalty to our values. I think that's new,
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Speaker 2: telling margrants to be loyal to our values. It cuts
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Speaker 2: right across Labour's disastrous multicultural project, they said. Politicians of
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Speaker 2: the left seemed to praise every culture but our own,
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Speaker 2: our own, genocidal, nasty, racist land ruining supposed culture.
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you how different this message was.
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Speaker 2: I'll contrast it with what I'll contrast what Albanize said
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Speaker 2: with another speech yesterday. It was by Albanese's housing mister
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Speaker 2: Clara O'Neil. She used to oversee immigration until she was
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Speaker 2: moved sideways for being terrible. Now like a militant multiculturalist,
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Speaker 2: she last weekend posted on her Facebook page Happy Indian
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Speaker 2: Republic Day to Indian Australians. Yesterday was also India's national Day,
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Speaker 2: but she did not post a Happy Australia Day for
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Speaker 2: the national day of her own country. But she did
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Speaker 2: then post her own speech to New Australians getting their
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Speaker 2: citizenship on Australia Day, and it was a very different
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Speaker 2: message to Albanesi's. It was still that same multicultural cringe,
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Speaker 2: that submissive, ingratiating praising of every culture but own, sort
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Speaker 2: of thing that's helped to turn us into a nation
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Speaker 2: of tribes.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Unlike albin Easy, she did not tell migrants they owed
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Speaker 2: their loyalty now to Australian values. Apparently we instead owe
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Speaker 2: migrants praise for their values.
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Speaker 4: Listen for yourself, that Australia is a great multi cultural
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Speaker 4: country because you share your culture with us.
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Speaker 5: Becoming part of our Australian family doesn't mean leaving behind
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Speaker 5: where you came from. It doesn't mean leaving behind your traditions,
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Speaker 5: your history and the story of your family, because those
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Speaker 5: things are actually what makes our country great.
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Speaker 2: So message, Australia is great because of the newcomers, not
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Speaker 2: because of those who actually built it. And Margarets, keep
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Speaker 2: your culture, don't join ours. Albaniz this changed his tune,
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Speaker 2: But how long before his ministers get the score?
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Speaker 1: Yet I thank him.
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Speaker 2: I mean whether he means all this in his heart
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Speaker 2: or is just blown with the wind, I don't really care.
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Speaker 2: The critical thing is that our Prime minister now realized
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Speaker 2: Australia is in danger, threatened by people with contempt for
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Speaker 2: its values, and this year could finally be when we
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Speaker 2: start to save it. Now this shift, I sense defending
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Speaker 2: Australia is so important given well, some of the ugly
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Speaker 2: things that happened yesterday on a national Day, and things
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Speaker 2: not just by the left but also the far right.
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Speaker 2: Not on the left, of course, was this invasion Day,
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Speaker 2: protests by the Marxist anarchists, Abigal separatists, anti Israel protesters,
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Speaker 2: every fleeting grumbler with a grudge. There was also the
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Speaker 2: burning of the Australian flag in Brisbane and some of
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Speaker 2: the new anti white racism of the inner urban left.
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Speaker 2: I hope the white side does happen, because you guys, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's all.
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Speaker 6: Your flag, this genocidal country.
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Speaker 2: But on the right there was also ugliness with racists
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Speaker 2: and especially neo Nazis infiltrating the March for Australia rallies,
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Speaker 2: trying to whip up anti immigrant hatred with chance like this.
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Speaker 1: Luckily not many people joining in. That was the Melbourne rally.
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Speaker 2: In the Sydney bun a man grabbed the open mic
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Speaker 2: to abuse Jews, and in Perth someone else threw a
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Speaker 2: crude bomb into an Invasion Day crowd, causing police to
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Speaker 2: clear the area. Now I heard ABC presenters today play
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Speaker 2: up the incidents as if to say, you know, you see,
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Speaker 2: you see if you fly the Australian flag, if you
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Speaker 2: march Australia, if you say immigrations too high, then these
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Speaker 2: are the monsters you feed. You might even be a
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Speaker 2: Nazi yourself, so shut up, And I say it's exactly
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Speaker 2: the opposite. For far too long, many good people have
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Speaker 2: been too scared to even fly the Australian flag for reasons,
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Speaker 2: including those and politicians of mainstream parties labor and liberal.
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Speaker 1: They have either.
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Speaker 2: Trashed our history and symbols and traditions thinking you know,
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Speaker 2: we can afford to do it, or they fail to
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Speaker 2: defend them. Now, when there is a vacuum like that,
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Speaker 2: extremists will fill it. And we've been seeing exactly that.
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Speaker 2: And that's why.
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Speaker 1: These good people, good people.
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Speaker 2: Mainstream politicians, they must fill that void instead of the
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Speaker 2: rat bags, loons and scum like those in the Nazis.
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Speaker 2: Now I would include in that list of people that
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Speaker 2: need to step up the left in particular, which has
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Speaker 2: actually helped to create the far right. But that I mean,
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Speaker 2: you take this sick game now of identity politics, you know,
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Speaker 2: how we're defined by race or whatever or gender, a
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Speaker 2: game pushed by our universities. Now, no doubt a lot
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Speaker 2: of people playing it mean no harm, they probably don't
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Speaker 2: do any harm, but collectively as a culture it's damaging.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: I mean the game where everyone is you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: a proud Aborigine, or I'm a proud immigrant, or a
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Speaker 2: proud Muslim, or a proud gay or lesbian, but never
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Speaker 2: ever a proud white, because if you said that that
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Speaker 2: would be racist.
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Speaker 1: I'm a proud white.
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Speaker 2: I mean really, And of course again I'm not blaming
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Speaker 2: or making a particular point about the individuals in those
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Speaker 2: articles I've shown. It's like say it's the cultural tide
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Speaker 2: and the extremes it then encourages licenses suggest. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you've seen before in this latest Australia Day how a
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Speaker 2: monument in Melbourne to white pioneers was smashed by activists
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Speaker 2: who painted death to Australia on the rubble. Vandalism praised
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Speaker 2: by a group of mass leftists in a video they
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Speaker 2: posted calling for death to the white race, which actually
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Speaker 2: happens to include themselves.
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Speaker 1: For people like this is too brainless to understand it.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, when you start that game, do you really
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Speaker 2: then expect poor whites or white trash or white neo
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Speaker 2: nazi rubbish that day won't play it as well, won't
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Speaker 2: play the same game, won't feel under attack, won't feel
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Speaker 2: like losers, and won't respond in kind. So that is
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Speaker 2: another big, big reason to say no to identity politics,
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Speaker 2: no to multiculturalism, no to the trashing of our symbols
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Speaker 2: and a step up. And it's another reason to welcome
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Speaker 2: Anthony alban easy like the return of the prodigal son,
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Speaker 2: even as we tell them, good start, Prime Minister. But
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Speaker 2: it's still not enough.
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Speaker 1: Another sign today, this fighting back. I tell you, it's
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Speaker 1: so much good news I have for you.
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Speaker 2: Joe Hersey, the Northern Territories Education Minister. She's ordered all
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Speaker 2: public schools to play and sing the first two verses
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Speaker 2: of the National Anthem during school assemblies and special events,
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Speaker 2: and it must be sung in English and students must stand.
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Speaker 2: Joe Heersey join me earlier. Joehersey, thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for joining us. Why are you doing this?
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Speaker 7: Yes, I'm on the back of a very stronglest and
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Speaker 7: we know that there's been a resurgence in people getting
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Speaker 7: behind Australia day again and as a government, we've been
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Speaker 7: very strong in the last sixteen months of coming in
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Speaker 7: with our boosting literacy and numeracy, building school attendance and
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Speaker 7: this is just another part of the education as the
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Speaker 7: Education Minister in making sure that we have a consistent
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Speaker 7: approach right across the territory in schools with the National
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Speaker 7: Anthem and bringing back some national pride into the school communities.
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Speaker 7: And so we have said that all schools to seeing
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Speaker 7: the two verses of the national anthem. And we know
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Speaker 7: that there were many schools that some do two verses,
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Speaker 7: some do one verse, some do one verse and then
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Speaker 7: seeing another version of something kind of else. And so
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Speaker 7: this is about bringing consistency right across all schools in
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Speaker 7: the Northern Territory and just bringing back that pride into
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Speaker 7: our school environment.
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Speaker 2: I like the idea, but what if you get a
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Speaker 2: student like one that I read about in South Australia
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Speaker 2: that refuses to single stand.
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm sure the leaders in that school will be
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Speaker 7: able to deal with that student. But what we're sending
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Speaker 7: out to all schools across the territory is a very
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Speaker 7: strong message that we want to create that pride. We
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Speaker 7: want kids to know, you know, the versus of the
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Speaker 7: national anthem, and we also want that to be taught
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Speaker 7: through the school through the civics program, whether it be
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Speaker 7: through the art or the music program. And you know,
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Speaker 7: schools can choose whether they have their school band up
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Speaker 7: there or their school choir leading the national anthem, or
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Speaker 7: have the leaders in the school up there seeing the
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Speaker 7: national anthem as well. We've been very clear about the
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Speaker 7: consistent approach that we want across all NTY schools. And
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Speaker 7: I think, you know, the schools that have that one
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Speaker 7: child that doesn't want to sing those national anthem, I
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Speaker 7: think that's up to the school leadership to you know,
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Speaker 7: sort out that problem, but.
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Speaker 1: Chuck the student out to give them detention. What do
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Speaker 1: you do?
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Speaker 7: I think that child that doesn't sing the national anthem
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Speaker 7: might find that they'll get on board pretty quickly when
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Speaker 7: everyone else around them is singing and singing loud and
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Speaker 7: proud singing the national anthem.
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Speaker 1: Jehersy.
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Speaker 2: When I was a student at Rapid Creek Primary School
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Speaker 2: not very far from where you're sitting now, I remember
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Speaker 2: we used to sing the national anthem. We used to
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Speaker 2: have the Australian flag, only the Australian flag flying. I'm
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Speaker 2: sure something like that that you went through too when
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Speaker 2: you were a school What difference do you think that made?
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Speaker 7: I think it just fosters a sense of pride across
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Speaker 7: the school community, and you know, it really does bring
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Speaker 7: people together, whether they learn the national anthem in primary
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Speaker 7: school or in leading onto secondary school as well. But
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Speaker 7: then when you go out into the sporting field, we
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Speaker 7: see whether it be the Australian team, whether it be
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Speaker 7: in soccer, cricket, rugby, AFL, whatever it is, they all
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Speaker 7: see the national anthem and I think it's something too
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Speaker 7: you know that as school students they need to know
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Speaker 7: the words. And also there's other leaders out in the school,
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Speaker 7: out in the community that you know, are leading by
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Speaker 7: example and making sure that that sense of pride is
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Speaker 7: fostered right across our nation. And I think that's something
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Speaker 7: that we need.
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Speaker 3: To get back to.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I've seen a number of football teams, AFL teams where
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Speaker 2: players do not sing the national anthem the very few
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Speaker 2: occasions when it's played. Let's see whether that soon changes.
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Speaker 2: Because I agree with you. I think there does seem
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Speaker 2: to be a swing back at least. Maybe I'm fooling myself,
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Speaker 2: but that's what I I believe having seen yesterday and
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Speaker 2: some science today. But Joe Hersey, all the best of
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Speaker 2: you with this attempt. Thank you so much for talking
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Speaker 2: to us.
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Speaker 7: No, thank you very much, And I never touched.
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Speaker 1: On this last night.
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Speaker 2: But I've got to come back to the purge that
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Speaker 2: Chinese dictator Jijingping has just made of his top general
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Speaker 2: and not just him, because the deeper you look into it,
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Speaker 2: the more ominous and extraordinary it is.
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Speaker 1: Now, just like Stalin.
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Speaker 2: Actually before World War Two, she has conducted a huge
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Speaker 2: purge of his army and defense officials, although I like Stalin,
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Speaker 2: he hasn't had them all shot yet. His regime has
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Speaker 2: just accused She's most senior general and a longtime friend,
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Speaker 2: Chang Yao Jia, of extraordinary crimes like you know, revealing
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Speaker 2: nuclear secrets of the US, taking bribes, foss during political problems.
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Speaker 1: Whatever that means.
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Speaker 2: Add to that all the others accused of crimes and
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Speaker 2: purged you have. Look if you do a diagram of
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Speaker 2: everyone who was in the last Central Military Commission headed
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Speaker 2: by Ji himself, the top military body, almost all of
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Speaker 2: them have been arrested or disappeared. And that's just the
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Speaker 2: most senior army officials. Also gone on more junior ones,
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Speaker 2: including the senior officers of China's Rocket Force, which oversees
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Speaker 2: the strategic nuclear missiles, as well as a defense minister
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Speaker 2: he's been disappeared, a foreign minister he has been disappeared
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Speaker 2: over the past couple of years.
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Speaker 1: Is extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: The kind of purge you haven't seen in China for
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Speaker 2: decades now. This could show that Jijinping is cementing his power,
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Speaker 2: or it could show that he's having to fight off
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Speaker 2: a challenge. Who knows joining Miss Peter Jennings, a former
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Speaker 2: Deputy Secretary for Strategy Defense Apartment, now at junk fellow
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Speaker 2: at the APA. Peter Jennings, thank you for joining us.
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Speaker 2: What does this mean given that, particularly given that she
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Speaker 2: has repeatedly warned its army to be prepared for war
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Speaker 2: next year, the year that she wants to take a
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Speaker 2: democratic Taiwan, which he claims is China. A purge like
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Speaker 2: this seems to me to leave the army weaker or
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Speaker 2: is it more malleable.
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Speaker 8: Well, it's certainly more malleable, and you're quite right to
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Speaker 8: point out that this is Stalinist in its origin. In fact,
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Speaker 8: Stalin was one of Sidjemping's favorite authors.
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Speaker 1: As a teen.
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Speaker 8: He read deeply into Marxist Leninism, but particularly Stalin. So
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Speaker 8: he knows about purgase and she has been using purchase
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Speaker 8: across the military, the intelligence agencies, and the Communist Party
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Speaker 8: ever since. He's been General Secretary from twenty twelve. What
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Speaker 8: I think is particularly interesting about the military is that
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Speaker 8: I think there's more to it than just destabilizing the
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Speaker 8: generals and making sure that an alternate power base isn't created.
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Speaker 8: I think there's also a fight going on where the
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Speaker 8: generals are being resistant to some degree to Shei's direction
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Speaker 8: to say be ready for war for an invasion of
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Speaker 8: Taiwan in twenty twenty seven. And as far as General
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Speaker 8: Jiang is concerned, effectively the head of the military that's
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Speaker 8: just been purged. Now, the key crime that is being
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Speaker 8: written about in Chinese language papers is to say that
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Speaker 8: he was too slow in implementing what Sigimping wanted in
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Speaker 8: terms of military reforms, and this was damaging PLA combat capability.
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Speaker 8: So there's two elements. There's the purging to make sure
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Speaker 8: that Sigimping is on top and no one can question
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Speaker 8: him or come near him or present an alternate source
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Speaker 8: of power. And then there's a fight about how well
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Speaker 8: prepared is the People's Liberation Army to do what she
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Speaker 8: has directed it to do, and that's be ready for
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Speaker 8: war by twenty twenty seven. They clearly don't feel that
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Speaker 8: they can be, and she is trying to make sure
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Speaker 8: that he will have leadership in place that will at
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Speaker 8: least say to him, yes, a leader, that's what we
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Speaker 8: can do.
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Speaker 2: That is very ominous because, as you're absolutely right, the
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Speaker 2: top general has just purchased the only one apparently with
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Speaker 2: real war experience, having been part of the Chinese invasion
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Speaker 2: of Vietnam, and the only reason that'd be in his
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Speaker 2: way is if they were saying no to is yes,
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Speaker 2: be ready to attack.
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Speaker 1: That is ominous, Peter.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, given that there's something else that worries me, China
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Speaker 2: has tightened its influence on Taiwan's main opposition parties, it
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Speaker 2: seems it very much seems because those opposition parties, which
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Speaker 2: aren't really as independent minded as the government independent from China,
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Speaker 2: they have combined to stop the Taiwanese government from passing
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Speaker 2: a bill to spend an extra six the billion.
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Speaker 1: Dollars to protect the island from a Chinese attack. What's
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Speaker 1: going on there?
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Speaker 8: Well, there is and always has been a fifth column
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Speaker 8: of Communist party influence in Taiwan, which seems now to
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Speaker 8: be coming back up to the surface. You know, in
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Speaker 8: terms of opinion polls and attitudes of the Taiwanese population,
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Speaker 8: particularly the young Andrew, there's eighty ninety percent support for
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Speaker 8: the status quo for Taiwan to remain not under the
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Speaker 8: control of the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing. There's only
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Speaker 8: a handful of octagenarians for the most part that might
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Speaker 8: have a different view about that. And yet all of
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Speaker 8: a sudden we now see these organized groups coming forward
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Speaker 8: which seems to be challenging the position of the Taiwanese government.
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Speaker 8: I think that can be traced back to mainland influence,
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Speaker 8: Communist Party influence, and money, and it reflects the fact
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Speaker 8: that Taiwan has two huge fights on its hands. It's
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Speaker 8: got to be prepared to defend itself against China's military aggression,
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Speaker 8: but it also has to deal with a very serious interference,
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Speaker 8: domestic interference and foreign influencing threat, and China is pushing
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Speaker 8: this as hard as it possibly can. This all goes
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Speaker 8: back to Sid Jiping's twenty twenty seven deadline, be ready
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Speaker 8: for war, and the mainland is using every instrument at
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Speaker 8: its disposal to try and make Taiwan week because you know,
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Speaker 8: they'd much rather take it through capitulation than actually having
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Speaker 8: to fight a military operation for it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and meanwhile, the US ECRA carrier Abraham Lincoln has
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Speaker 2: reached Water's not that fat the Indian notion not far
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Speaker 2: from Iran, so that we could expect the war there
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Speaker 2: very soon. Peter Jennings, it's a very uncertain world. Thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for your time after the break. This
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Speaker 2: monster heat wave really global warming? What's it really tell us?
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Speaker 1: That's some heat wave.
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Speaker 2: Today Victoria set a new state record for the hottest
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Speaker 2: recorded day forty eight point nine degrees, zero point one
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Speaker 2: degree above the previous record, which was set seventeen years ago.
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Speaker 2: But that's still nearly three degrees cooler than Australia's highest
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Speaker 2: ever recorded temperature fifty point seven degrees, set in Udnadatta
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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty nineteen sixty, which is sixty five years ago,
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Speaker 2: sixty five years of the global warming that's now supposedly
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Speaker 2: blamed for this heat. Meanwhile, the US is facing a
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Speaker 2: bitter cold snap than the world's overall temperature has tumbled
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Speaker 2: again in the past well nearly two years now. It's
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Speaker 2: still higher than the long term average, but by less
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Speaker 2: than one third of one degree now.
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Speaker 1: In a heat wave.
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Speaker 2: Like the everyone will be rushing to turn on their
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Speaker 2: air con if they've got it when they get home
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Speaker 2: from work, especially, but that's now going to cost you
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Speaker 2: a MTZA because our governments decided to try to stop
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Speaker 2: global warming by going net zero using more green power,
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Speaker 2: and of course going green costs much more.
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Speaker 1: And the problem is.
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Speaker 2: Particularly right about ooh this time of day when the
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Speaker 2: wind or the sun tends to disappear.
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Speaker 1: Good heavens if ECTORI.
23:33
Speaker 2: In fact, this spot price of power as we went
23:35
Speaker 2: to air rocketed nearly forty times what it was earlier
23:39
Speaker 2: today when there was a lot more sun. So thank
23:42
Speaker 2: Heavens that we've still got fossil fuels, which was providing
23:46
Speaker 2: more than half the SAT's power about right now, and
23:50
Speaker 2: nearly two thirds of Australia's.
23:51
Speaker 1: So we still need to be very.
23:53
Speaker 2: Grateful for coal and gas, especially when we read there's
23:57
Speaker 2: now been a huge slumping investment over the past year
24:01
Speaker 2: in the large scale wind and solar projects of the
24:04
Speaker 2: Albanezer government had been counting on to replace these fossil fuels.
24:08
Speaker 2: Joining me is Aiden Morrison, trained physicists and director of
24:11
Speaker 2: Energy at the Center for Independent Studies. Aiden Morrison, thank
24:16
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us.
24:17
Speaker 1: Aiden. Is this heat wave global warming?
24:22
Speaker 9: Look, we actually just can't say that with any confidence
24:24
Speaker 9: at all. It's one of the very foolish things that
24:26
Speaker 9: has done remarkably often these days is to take a
24:29
Speaker 9: very very complex system with lots of variance and variety
24:31
Speaker 9: and interactions between many different places, many different times, and start
24:35
Speaker 9: to pick just the outliers at certain places and times
24:38
Speaker 9: to draw evidence of a global trend. That's not sensible,
24:42
Speaker 9: but it happens all the time, so you have to
24:43
Speaker 9: weigh it into context of all the other variation we have.
24:46
Speaker 9: It's actually been a relatively cool Christmas week, I'm sure
24:48
Speaker 9: you remember. I was quite surprised how cold it was.
24:51
Speaker 9: Wasn't in the water very much at all. I've also
24:54
Speaker 9: spoken to example, farmers in Victoria who have said the
24:56
Speaker 9: last three summers have been much much cooler than average.
25:00
Speaker 9: They find that and experience that in the way they farm.
25:02
Speaker 9: So the whole system, and not just around Victoria, not
25:04
Speaker 9: around South Australia, and not even just Australia at all,
25:08
Speaker 9: has to be considered before drawing any conclusion. And know
25:10
Speaker 9: these outliers aren't evidence necessarily of any particular long running
25:14
Speaker 9: global trend.
25:18
Speaker 2: Now, how is our power system, which of course has
25:21
Speaker 2: been revolutionized to catemicians to allegedly stop global warming. How's
25:27
Speaker 2: our power system coping with this.
25:30
Speaker 9: It's certainly showing some signs of strain at the moment.
25:33
Speaker 9: For example, just last night in South Australia they had
25:36
Speaker 9: a very extreme price event. The grid was very constrained
25:39
Speaker 9: trying to meet near record demands. The sun of course
25:43
Speaker 9: had set and it was still hot, the wind was
25:45
Speaker 9: very low, and South Australia has huge amounts of solar
25:48
Speaker 9: installed and wind installed, and that didn't really help them.
25:51
Speaker 9: The batteries played a small part, maybe about a quarter
25:55
Speaker 9: of the part that gas was playing to keep the
25:57
Speaker 9: air conditioners on, and then it tapped out. The batteries
26:00
Speaker 9: were all done and dusted with about half an hour,
26:02
Speaker 9: about six increments of extreme high price twenty thousand dollars
26:06
Speaker 9: a MEGG what our price events happened after the batteries
26:08
Speaker 9: would completely shut up and empty their capacity. So we
26:12
Speaker 9: are a very long way from having wind and see
26:14
Speaker 9: us through those sorts of things. And also there's deep
26:17
Speaker 9: questions about interconnection and whether the interconnectors and the supposed
26:21
Speaker 9: solution of having greater and stronger links to other states
26:24
Speaker 9: will work. At least one of the interconnectors to Victoria
26:27
Speaker 9: was not operating through the peak demand last night in
26:30
Speaker 9: South Australia. So signs of strain are definitely present and
26:34
Speaker 9: we'll see that in prices when that volatility is factored
26:37
Speaker 9: into the wholesale costs in the future.
26:43
Speaker 2: I know during the day the solar is sure doing
26:46
Speaker 2: its work. Is really when the sun goes down and
26:50
Speaker 2: the heat still stays around as it is doing. It's
26:52
Speaker 2: been a real heat dome and the Adelaide had a
26:55
Speaker 2: record hot night. Now the slump in investment last next
27:00
Speaker 2: year in big wind and solar projects, why did that
27:04
Speaker 2: happen and what does it mean?
27:07
Speaker 9: Look, it's just the financial evidence of something that is
27:10
Speaker 9: really an underlying physical and engineering reality and economic reality.
27:14
Speaker 9: So this is just what has been long predicted is
27:17
Speaker 9: coming to pass. And what it really means is that
27:19
Speaker 9: when you've got a very windy day or a very
27:21
Speaker 9: sunny day, the prices are depressed, which means the value
27:24
Speaker 9: for that power that's generated by the wind and the
27:26
Speaker 9: sun actually falls. And so the market is now telling
27:30
Speaker 9: us that we've got too much of that. Nobody wants
27:32
Speaker 9: to commit to paying a fixed high price for fifteen
27:35
Speaker 9: twenty twenty five years for energy that turns up at
27:38
Speaker 9: free or negative prices in the spot market, and so
27:41
Speaker 9: that's why financiers are not backing more wind and solar
27:45
Speaker 9: into the system, because it's got to the point where
27:47
Speaker 9: the market prices are telling the system that we've got
27:49
Speaker 9: enough of that, and so they're following the underlying dynamics
27:52
Speaker 9: faithfully as they should. And now we have the government
27:55
Speaker 9: reaching over the top to try to incentivize and subsidize
27:59
Speaker 9: more renewable generation, and that doesn't seem to be working
28:02
Speaker 9: as well. Even with big subsidies being offered to lots
28:05
Speaker 9: of companies, they're still not moving on their investments, perhaps
28:09
Speaker 9: because of the risk there isn't the transmission in place,
28:11
Speaker 9: which is a huge additional cost that is not proceeding
28:15
Speaker 9: at pace or according to price expectations.
28:21
Speaker 2: When you say subsidies, of course those are going to
28:24
Speaker 2: be paid through our taxes. That's a hidden cost to
28:26
Speaker 2: us on top of the power bills, which aident we're
28:30
Speaker 2: told will rise over the next year by twenty four percent.
28:36
Speaker 1: Now why is that.
28:38
Speaker 9: Look, there's a couple of things going on there, and
28:40
Speaker 9: one is that the government has been masking the increase
28:43
Speaker 9: in power prices with subsidies, basically as a rebate the
28:46
Speaker 9: Commonwealth government in particular has done that in the run
28:49
Speaker 9: up to the last election to try to keep power
28:51
Speaker 9: price from escalating as fast as the otherwise would have.
28:54
Speaker 9: They've decided prudently to take that rebate away, and so
28:58
Speaker 9: we're going to have a big bump from that during
29:01
Speaker 9: this part of the year. In addition, many of the
29:03
Speaker 9: costs to support renewable energy are just starting to hit
29:07
Speaker 9: the system seriously, such as increasing costs from transmission projects
29:10
Speaker 9: being rolled out, including the new South Wales's renewable Energy
29:14
Speaker 9: Zone such as Central West Irana, things like Humor Liink
29:16
Speaker 9: as well and Project Energy Connect which is blown out
29:19
Speaker 9: and cost massively. So as some of these costs start
29:22
Speaker 9: to come onto the system, we will see them added
29:24
Speaker 9: to your bills, and they're the ones we can't riggle
29:26
Speaker 9: out of, and they will push our prices overall. So
29:30
Speaker 9: I think that the inevitable is happening. The honeymoon where
29:33
Speaker 9: a little bit of renewable energy is easy to accommodate
29:35
Speaker 9: has finished now and the expensive part of trying to
29:39
Speaker 9: jam more renewable energy into the system when it's already
29:42
Speaker 9: reached the point where it's too much at certain times
29:44
Speaker 9: and places. The expensive part is starting just now.
29:51
Speaker 1: I put it all together.
29:52
Speaker 2: Look, so, in a heat wave we are having to
29:57
Speaker 2: pay very high prices for a electricity. When the sun
30:01
Speaker 2: goes down and the heat still stays around, we've got
30:04
Speaker 2: a massive slump in investment in the big projects we
30:08
Speaker 2: need for green power. If you think we need green power,
30:11
Speaker 2: we've got a shortage of electricity in the winter months,
30:14
Speaker 2: and of course there isn't that some to keep us
30:19
Speaker 2: in the power system going, and we've got these massive
30:22
Speaker 2: price rises. Put it all together, what picture is that painting?
30:27
Speaker 9: Look at The picture is of a poorly planned energy system.
30:30
Speaker 9: If you want to have an energy system that delivers
30:32
Speaker 9: low prices in the long term, you have to have
30:35
Speaker 9: an efficient and effective energy system, and one of those
30:38
Speaker 9: is basically, in the simple engineering terms, you need a
30:41
Speaker 9: little bit of machinery that delivers a lot. You need
30:44
Speaker 9: machines that operate in steady state. Steady state is an
30:46
Speaker 9: engineer's friend, and it turns out to be an economist
30:50
Speaker 9: and a finance his friend as well. What we're doing
30:52
Speaker 9: by driving more and more weather driven generation of the
30:55
Speaker 9: system is creating a system that does the opposite. It
30:58
Speaker 9: goes from huge highs and low the energy comes in
31:00
Speaker 9: rushes and gushes, and you have to build more and
31:03
Speaker 9: more supporting infrastructure that is utilized not very often. We're
31:07
Speaker 9: building lots and lots of machines that deliver very little,
31:10
Speaker 9: and that is a recipe for an expensive system, and
31:13
Speaker 9: you can see it under strain on the high heat
31:15
Speaker 9: days when you don't have the energy generation that matches
31:18
Speaker 9: up well with that demand. And so the cost of
31:21
Speaker 9: all the other systems such as the batteries to move
31:23
Speaker 9: energy around the clock to when it's needed, and the
31:25
Speaker 9: transmission as well as the system security things like synchronous condensers.
31:31
Speaker 9: They're starting to all add up all of these machines
31:33
Speaker 9: that are required to produce little or no electricity on
31:36
Speaker 9: average to try to get electricity out of a weather
31:39
Speaker 9: dependent system.
31:40
Speaker 6: That's what's happening to us, very simplicity terms.
31:46
Speaker 2: You have to build two systems instead of one one
31:49
Speaker 2: to take over for when the weather dependent ones conk
31:53
Speaker 2: ount Aid Morrison, thank you so much indeed for your time.
31:58
Speaker 9: Thank you.
32:00
Speaker 2: After the break, Donald Trump cracks down after immigration officials
32:04
Speaker 2: shoot dead a second protest.
32:06
Speaker 1: And lie about it.
32:11
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has been forced into a rare bank track
32:14
Speaker 2: after immigration official shot dead a second American citizen. The
32:19
Speaker 2: US president had ordered illegal immigrants to be deported, and
32:22
Speaker 2: three weeks ago, immigration or ICE agents in Minnesota shot
32:26
Speaker 2: dead and activists trying to block them after she bumped
32:29
Speaker 2: one with her car driving off to escape them. Then
32:34
Speaker 2: last Saturday, agents shot dead and other activists they were
32:37
Speaker 2: trying to arrest, and a warning the following footage is distressing.
32:41
Speaker 1: They shot him and.
32:42
Speaker 2: Christine none At Trumps secretary for Homeland Security, then lied
32:46
Speaker 2: about it, calling the dead man, nurse Alex Pretty, a terrorist.
32:50
Speaker 10: An individual approached US Border patrol officers with a nine
32:54
Speaker 10: millimeter semi automatic handgun. The officers attempted to disarm this individual.
33:00
Speaker 10: The armed suspect reacted violently, fearing for his life and
33:04
Speaker 10: for the lives of his fellow officers around him. An
33:07
Speaker 10: agent fired defensive shots. Do when you perpetuate violence against
33:11
Speaker 10: a government because of ideological reasons and for reasons to
33:15
Speaker 10: resist and perpet joint violence, that is the definition of
33:18
Speaker 10: domestic terrorism.
33:21
Speaker 2: It's true Petty Pretty had a pistol, but it was
33:24
Speaker 2: stuck in his belt at the back. It was licensed
33:27
Speaker 2: to carry by the way, ICE agents couldn't have seen
33:29
Speaker 2: it when they first tackled him. A video showed the
33:31
Speaker 2: only thing Pretty actually had in his hand was a phone,
33:34
Speaker 2: and it was only in the scuffle that an agent
33:36
Speaker 2: in the cap saw the pistol in Pretty's belt and
33:39
Speaker 2: removed it.
33:39
Speaker 1: You see him walking away with it.
33:41
Speaker 2: Yet Pretty was then shot and shot again a reminder
33:45
Speaker 2: these images are very disturbing. Well, the lives were exposed,
33:57
Speaker 2: and Trump has seen how this scandal is his poll numbers.
34:01
Speaker 2: He rang Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz, a Democrat, to talk peace,
34:05
Speaker 2: and it seems to have agreed that Trump may remove
34:07
Speaker 2: some of the ICE agents and Waltz will stop a campaign.
34:11
Speaker 1: Of opposition to them.
34:12
Speaker 2: But the biggest sign of retreat is that Trump has
34:15
Speaker 2: side down Christyome and appointed his board Tom Honan to
34:19
Speaker 2: take over in Minnesota instead. He says, Honan will report
34:22
Speaker 2: directly to him Trump and not know who I think
34:26
Speaker 2: seems destined for the sack, joined me of Sean Spicer,
34:30
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's first White House spokesman, Shawn spiceer, great to
34:34
Speaker 2: see you again. The shooting of Alex Pretty. That seems
34:37
Speaker 2: to me both a tragedy and a disaster for the
34:40
Speaker 2: White House, which has been you know, it all being
34:43
Speaker 2: made worse by the lies that Christinoman told about it.
34:47
Speaker 2: It now seems that Donald Trump sees that too and
34:50
Speaker 2: is sidelining Nome.
34:51
Speaker 1: How bad is this.
34:55
Speaker 6: Well, there's a few things. It's not good. You're absolutely right.
34:57
Speaker 11: I mean, the idea of Americans waking up been seeing
35:00
Speaker 11: on their television screens for the second time in a
35:02
Speaker 11: couple of weeks an American being killed is not a
35:06
Speaker 11: great image. And the finger pointing you in this situation
35:11
Speaker 11: just doesn't help the White House. The idea of trying
35:15
Speaker 11: to figure out who to cast plaim and the individual
35:17
Speaker 11: themselves could be one hundred percent wrong. It's just still
35:19
Speaker 11: not a good image of an American dying on a street.
35:23
Speaker 11: But there's a couple factors at play here. Number one,
35:27
Speaker 11: why is Minneapolis happening the way it is but other
35:31
Speaker 11: cities aren't. And that's one of the questions that I
35:34
Speaker 11: think Caroline Leaven addressed today at the White House briefing.
35:37
Speaker 11: But most people should ask why is it the case
35:39
Speaker 11: that New Orleans or Memphis or Washington, DC aren't having
35:43
Speaker 11: the same problems.
35:43
Speaker 6: They are all run by Democrats as well.
35:45
Speaker 11: The difference is, yes, they are sanctuary cities to some degree,
35:48
Speaker 11: but they're also.
35:48
Speaker 6: Cooperating with ICE.
35:50
Speaker 11: Minneapolis has gone out of its way to say we
35:53
Speaker 11: don't want to work with you, and that's created this
35:56
Speaker 11: additional tension, these additional problems, This these additional loopholes for
36:01
Speaker 11: the federal officials going after the criminals. That being said,
36:05
Speaker 11: them coming out and sort of gaslighting the American people.
36:08
Speaker 11: As you noted with Christine Oham, the way she did
36:12
Speaker 11: is not helping create trust or accountability or understanding as
36:16
Speaker 11: to what the real goal is. And Trump sending out
36:19
Speaker 11: Tom Holman was absolutely the right move here.
36:22
Speaker 6: And let me just say why. When you look at.
36:25
Speaker 11: Tom Holman, he is a man who President Obama gave
36:28
Speaker 11: our nations highest toward to.
36:30
Speaker 6: He is a recognized law enforcement man.
36:32
Speaker 11: He spent years as a beat cop in New York
36:34
Speaker 11: City and decades as a federal agent. He has the
36:38
Speaker 11: bona fides and the credibility to go out and address
36:42
Speaker 11: the issues of ice and detainment and going after criminals
36:47
Speaker 11: in a very sort of professional way one that frankly
36:50
Speaker 11: Christinom lacks.
36:52
Speaker 2: Well, that's very interesting. What does this say about Christine Neim?
36:56
Speaker 2: Does she finished? Then? In the long term, it's quite
37:00
Speaker 2: extraordinary how Tom Honan has been put in charge of
37:05
Speaker 2: essentially her operation. I mean, she's the ultimate saying it.
37:10
Speaker 2: But now this Tom Homan, he's going to be reporting
37:13
Speaker 2: directly to Donald Trump, as the President himself said, made
37:17
Speaker 2: very clear.
37:19
Speaker 11: Yeah, look, first of all, just to fill your viewers
37:22
Speaker 11: on a little palace intrigue, there had been rumors of
37:25
Speaker 11: a lot of tension between Homan and Nome for quite
37:28
Speaker 11: some time.
37:29
Speaker 6: Homan, as I said, is a well.
37:31
Speaker 11: Established law enforcement guy who's got strong bodafines dealing with
37:35
Speaker 11: the border, immigration, customs enforcement, that whole deal.
37:38
Speaker 6: So for him, this is in his wheelhouse. Nome, yes,
37:41
Speaker 6: she was a.
37:41
Speaker 11: Governor, but she's no law enforcement experience, no border experience.
37:45
Speaker 6: I mean, the DHS secretary deals with a lot.
37:47
Speaker 11: They've got the Coastguard, TSA, all of these various entities
37:50
Speaker 11: of secret service under their purview. It's a big managerial job.
37:54
Speaker 11: But when it comes to the actual border, Tom Homan
37:58
Speaker 11: is the right guy to be addressing this. I think
38:00
Speaker 11: the President not only in the tweak that he sent
38:02
Speaker 11: out this morning acknowledging that Tom would be going, but
38:06
Speaker 11: made it very clear this is something that didn't get
38:08
Speaker 11: a lot of attention to Andrew, he said Holman, who
38:10
Speaker 11: hasn't been.
38:11
Speaker 6: Involved up till yet. It was almost to say Coleman's
38:14
Speaker 6: got clean hands.
38:15
Speaker 11: He can go in and be an honest broker, an
38:17
Speaker 11: honest agent, whereas Nome had sort of created some tension
38:21
Speaker 11: and some concern about her previous statements going back to
38:24
Speaker 11: Renee Goods incident in Minneapolis just a few days prior
38:27
Speaker 11: to that. So I think the reason that he sent
38:29
Speaker 11: Homan in is to be that honest broker, a guy
38:32
Speaker 11: with credentials. But also one of the things that I
38:35
Speaker 11: talked about earlier today in the US that was interesting
38:38
Speaker 11: to see the President deal with is making this deal.
38:41
Speaker 11: As I said at the outset, the reason that ICE
38:46
Speaker 11: is having this situation is that law enforcement refuses to
38:49
Speaker 11: cooperate in Minneapolis. So if they know somebody's in their
38:52
Speaker 11: jail and as a criminal, they won't tell ICE. If
38:55
Speaker 11: they know that they get somebody wrapped up in an
38:57
Speaker 11: arrest and they're legal, they won't tell ICE. And what
39:00
Speaker 11: I think the President needed to do, and he clearly
39:03
Speaker 11: was making that overture today with Governor Tim Waltz.
39:05
Speaker 6: Of Minnesota, was to say, how about we come to
39:08
Speaker 6: a deal.
39:08
Speaker 11: You work with our guys to go after known criminals,
39:11
Speaker 11: people that are in your city, in your state, that
39:14
Speaker 11: have criminal records, and we will back off doing what
39:17
Speaker 11: we had.
39:18
Speaker 6: To because you wouldn't work with us in the first place.
39:20
Speaker 11: If they can both agree to that, I think the
39:23
Speaker 11: temperature gets taken down.
39:24
Speaker 6: Ice gets to continue doing what it's doing.
39:27
Speaker 11: Waltz gets a victory by seeing thousands of these agents
39:30
Speaker 11: probably leave Minneapolis, and he can claim of political victory
39:33
Speaker 11: as well.
39:34
Speaker 2: I find it extraordinary, and I'm sure these two shootings
39:39
Speaker 2: have played a huge role in this. That an issue
39:42
Speaker 2: immigration that has been Donald Trump's big success, the big
39:47
Speaker 2: popularity thing for him, has turned into a huge negative
39:52
Speaker 2: according to the latest the Reuters poll.
39:56
Speaker 1: It's just how could it happen?
40:00
Speaker 2: This feedes into is full in the polls generally, of course,
40:04
Speaker 2: is a big driver of it, it seems. And that's
40:07
Speaker 2: with the midterm elections for Congress coming up in November.
40:11
Speaker 2: How those elections looking now for Donald Trump, how worried
40:16
Speaker 2: would he be?
40:18
Speaker 11: Well, I'd be worried just because of the closeness of
40:22
Speaker 11: both the House and the Senate. And that's why I
40:24
Speaker 11: think he's doing the right thing today. But a couple
40:27
Speaker 11: interesting notes on this. When you talk about that Reuter's poll,
40:30
Speaker 11: there's something that really interestingly jumped out to me. When
40:32
Speaker 11: you ask people in America how they feel about Donald
40:36
Speaker 11: Trump's job on securing the border, he gets very high marks.
40:40
Speaker 11: When you get about addressing immigration. It's now minus seventeen
40:45
Speaker 11: and people have begun to bifurcate the two issues.
40:47
Speaker 6: Yes, I want you to secure the.
40:48
Speaker 11: Border, and you're doing a great job there, but once
40:51
Speaker 11: it comes to the interior issue of illegal immigration people
40:55
Speaker 11: in our cities and states. I think what's happening in
40:57
Speaker 11: Minneapolis is driving a negative image of the President's actions.
41:02
Speaker 11: That's why I think, you know, again, reminding people what
41:04
Speaker 11: they're doing and who they're going after, as they have
41:06
Speaker 11: in New Orleans, Memphis, Washington, d C. Is critical for
41:10
Speaker 11: the president. He can get back on that message real quick.
41:13
Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, what's really going
41:15
Speaker 11: to drive the midterm elections is going to be the
41:17
Speaker 11: economy and every outlook that I've seen in Q two
41:20
Speaker 11: and Q three of next year, which is early to
41:23
Speaker 11: late summer, when the American people will be making up
41:26
Speaker 11: their minds who they're voting for If the economy is strong,
41:29
Speaker 11: Andrew and firing at all cylinders, the Republicans will get
41:32
Speaker 11: re elected. If the economy is sputtering, inflation is a problem,
41:36
Speaker 11: they won't. I think that the investments that the President
41:39
Speaker 11: has made legislatively, policy wise, the big beautiful bill no
41:42
Speaker 11: text on tips foreign direct investment in the United States
41:45
Speaker 11: will pay off at the right time. And that's the
41:48
Speaker 11: big hope and bet that they've made. And I think
41:50
Speaker 11: it'll pay off.
41:51
Speaker 2: And of course there's a potential strike against the Iran
41:54
Speaker 2: and we'll see how that feeds into this too. Shown sponsor,
41:58
Speaker 2: thank you so much for you time.
42:00
Speaker 11: Home you bet Andrew, thank you.
42:04
Speaker 2: After the break, yet another Jewish speaker banned from this
42:07
Speaker 2: country and a Jewish pastent in Western Sydney ordered to
42:10
Speaker 2: use an Anglo name for her protection. The Federal Opposition
42:19
Speaker 2: tried and failed last week to get Parliament to ban
42:22
Speaker 2: burning the Australian flag, which is exactly what one rabriaginal
42:27
Speaker 2: activist did in Invasion Day rally in Brisbane yesterday. Well,
42:32
Speaker 2: now the debate is on again, ban or not banned?
42:34
Speaker 2: Joining me as the panel scare New's host Anika to
42:36
Speaker 2: Georgia and Scar New's host Holly Stearns.
42:39
Speaker 1: Thank you very much to you both, Holly.
42:41
Speaker 2: I despise flag burners, but do we really now have
42:45
Speaker 2: to ban them after years and years of thinking we didn't.
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Speaker 12: Have to, Oh, Andrew to me, I mean it infuriates
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Speaker 12: me seeing anyone burning our beautiful flag. I mean we
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Speaker 12: should be proud to be Australian and not afraid to
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Speaker 12: say I mean proud of where our country is at now. Yes,
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Speaker 12: we have history, we have made mistakes, but it's time
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Speaker 12: to move forward.
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Speaker 6: I mean acknowledge the hurt.
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Speaker 12: Of the past, but it's the past for a reason,
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Speaker 12: and address the hate in this country though, Andrew. But
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Speaker 12: to be honest, I really feel your everyday Australians are
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Speaker 12: fed up with this behavior and the silent majority is
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Speaker 12: now standing up. I mean proud to be Australian and
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Speaker 12: why wouldn't you be. We live in the best country
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Speaker 12: in the world and everyone should count themselves lucky to
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Speaker 12: live here. But where is the outrage of people burning
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Speaker 12: our Aussie flag. I mean people can be burning it
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Speaker 12: in the center of our cities and no one says boot.
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Speaker 6: That's the concern for me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Janika.
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Speaker 2: I mean, are we really now so threatened by flag?
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Speaker 2: Is this society is such a tinderbox that we need
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Speaker 2: a law to do it?
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Speaker 1: I mean it is.
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Speaker 2: I think, as Holly suggests, something that we should be
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Speaker 2: doing out of our own volition rather than calling the cops.
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Speaker 13: Well, I actually think it's time to set a precedent.
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Speaker 13: I think that we should indeed criminal a desecration of
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Speaker 13: our flag. It's time to take back this country and
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Speaker 13: take back our values. I mean, if the last two
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Speaker 13: and a half years anything to go by, where our
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Speaker 13: social fibers have been absolutely fractured, all it has done
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Speaker 13: is really mobilize the I Hate Australia brigade. I mean
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Speaker 13: we've got protesters in the Straits saying that the colony
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Speaker 13: will fall as in the colony as in US. We've
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Speaker 13: got the left clashing violently with police. I have lost
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Speaker 13: count at the number of monuments across the country which
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Speaker 13: have been defaced. I mean it's practically every single Captain
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Speaker 13: Cook monument. The other day in Melbourne, a war memorial
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Speaker 13: was also slashed in red paint and anti Australia Day graffiti.
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Speaker 13: Enough is enough and it culminated in the burning of
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Speaker 13: our flag. Now, the progressive left have been slowly trying
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Speaker 13: to quash our values, squash everything that we stand for
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Speaker 13: in this country, with the ultimate aim of tearing down
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Speaker 13: everything that British settler's brought to this great country. We've
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Speaker 13: got to start setting a precedent. Can you imagine, Andrew,
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Speaker 13: if it was the Aboriginal flag. Imagine the outrage from labor.
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Speaker 13: The left would have had a field day, the Guardian
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Speaker 13: and the ABC, they would have gone to town on this.
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Speaker 13: But it is a very different when it's the Australian
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Speaker 13: flight medication exactly. I think no, I'm for the ban.
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Speaker 13: Take back our country and take back our values.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, burning your own flag is one thing. Burning destroying
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Speaker 2: someone else's statue might be another. But speaking of bands,
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Speaker 2: you know, Home Affairs Minster Tony Burke has a really
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Speaker 2: banned two Jewish politicians and an activist for Company to
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Speaker 2: Speak Now has banned another activist, Sammy Yohood, from Britain
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Speaker 2: because Yahood argues that Islam should be banned. They'll come
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Speaker 2: against both bands, banning Islam and banning the speaker. But
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Speaker 2: that leads to an astonishing story that Andrew Cannell broke
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Speaker 2: and scarded. A Jewish woman, Rosalie as Chitwerg, was injured
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Speaker 2: in the Bundo massacre which she was taken to the
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Speaker 2: Liverpool hospital. She was told she had to go under
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Speaker 2: an Anglo name, Karen Jones, that was even printed on
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Speaker 2: a medication, supposedly to stop the media bothering her. That
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Speaker 2: with the hospital said she doesn't believe it. She remembers
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Speaker 2: how two nurses at nearby Bankstown Hospitals threatened to kill
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Speaker 2: Jewish patients and she said she didn't sleep a wink
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Speaker 2: and she had to have a family there.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't trust them at all. Here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: The new South Wales healthminess that has investigator suggested, no, no,
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Speaker 2: this is not true. The hospital was actually worried that
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Speaker 2: this Jewish patient would be bothered by other patients and visitors.
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Speaker 2: As you know there are a lot of Muslims in
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Speaker 2: the Liverpool area here is didn't want.
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Speaker 4: People coming in and trying to engage with her or
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Speaker 4: threaten her or make any comments to.
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Speaker 6: People who had already been through. Helen back. So do
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Speaker 6: you do you think Patience should have done that? Do
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Speaker 6: you think other patients might have done well?
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Speaker 4: Well, we were looking the hospital has sort of advised
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Speaker 4: me Andrew that they were concerned about any external person
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Speaker 4: coming in, and that might include other people within the hospital,
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Speaker 4: but they were not worried about stuff.
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Speaker 1: I just want.
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Speaker 2: Holly, that's incredible that a hospital would think that people
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Speaker 2: would come from outside a monster people just injured in
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Speaker 2: the Bundo massacre.
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Speaker 12: I mean, it feels off, Andrew, and it most likely
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Speaker 12: is what media is searching for a Jewish patient to
47:20
Speaker 12: then threaten or engage with them. I mean, innocent people
47:23
Speaker 12: had just been slaughtered. I mean, come on, it's just unbelievable.
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Speaker 12: Why would anyone in the media even be thinking about
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Speaker 12: this patient to then track down It just doesn't add up.
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Speaker 12: Even as you said before, Andrew, the name on her
47:34
Speaker 12: medication was changed and what because of the media.
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Speaker 6: That just doesn't stack up.
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Speaker 12: I mean, the victim believes it's because the hospital don't
47:41
Speaker 12: trust their own staff, and it's not too far of
47:44
Speaker 12: a stretch. I mean, given what happened at nearby Bankstown
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Speaker 12: Hospital two years ago, what an absolute nightmare and raises
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Speaker 12: serious questions about the safety of Jewish people in Western
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Speaker 12: Sydney hospitals. And that is a very frightening situation to
47:57
Speaker 12: be in that Jewish people could now be put off
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Speaker 12: getting medical help over fear that they'll be in more
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Speaker 12: danger at their local hospital. How did we get here?
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Speaker 2: But Danika, there is no good explanation for this, because
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Speaker 2: even if you believe the hospital, they actually fear that
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Speaker 2: patients in that area, like I say, there's a fair
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Speaker 2: few Muslims living out there might attack Jewish patients.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, and I don't buy any of the excuses that
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Speaker 13: are sort of being thrown up. It was, you know,
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Speaker 13: to protect her from the media, it was to protect
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Speaker 13: her privacy.
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Speaker 6: What a load of nonsense.
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Speaker 13: I mean, as a former reporter, I can tell you
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Speaker 13: the media would find out anyway where exactly this woman
48:38
Speaker 13: is being held. So to me, the only thing that
48:40
Speaker 13: that would suggest was that there was a genuine concern
48:44
Speaker 13: for this woman's safety. Why because she was she is
48:48
Speaker 13: indeed Jewish. Now Jews, what, they're not safe in schools,
48:52
Speaker 13: they're not safe for the beach, they're not safe in
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Speaker 13: universities around the country, And now in the very place
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Speaker 13: that's met to keep them safe, the place that's meant
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Speaker 13: to keep them alive and breathing, they're no longer safe.
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Speaker 13: They're because of their Jewish name because of their religion.
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Speaker 6: It's terrible, it's extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry we've got such a short segment today.
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Speaker 2: I hope to make it up to Youdanika, to Georgia,
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Speaker 2: Holly Stems, thank you very much to you both.
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Speaker 1: That's it from me.
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Speaker 2: Coming up next Sherry, hosted by the Great James McPherson.
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Speaker 1: Good Night,