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NEAR DEATH RATTLESNAKE BITE & Bow Disciples Challenge Recap · The Bow Disciples Podcast

• 0:00
  Well guys, this is the first time doing a pod in the studio
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  in like 3 months probably. It's been a while.
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  We got a new guest, Drew from Tricer.
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  First time. Yeah, we're going.
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  I don't tell people when we go, no, we're ripping, we're
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  ripping. So Drew here, he got his own
• 0:20
  podcast, Tricer Podcast, as well as owns a Tripod company.
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  That makes sense. Tricer Tripod owns a Tricer
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  Tripod company. New to 3D so I thought the first
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  one. No.
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  No, but I thought we had a good mix of people today because
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  obviously we're going to talk about the challenge, go to
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  cycles challenge, but we got a mix.
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  We got two dudes that combine and shot 3D for 800 years, you
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  know, and then Brianna shot a lot and was also a big part of
• 0:50
  the infrastructure of doing the shoot and then a guy who is kind
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  of newer to 3D. So I thought we had a great mix
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  of people to talk about it and Drew here has to, I think you
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  got to lead off. So you're shooting, of course,
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  you get kind of a crazy phone call you got.
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  Yeah, so my so this is Saturday night.
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  We're on our second course. We're shooting me going to no
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  shop. I didn't I I didn't get to shoot
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  the boat cycles course, which sucked.
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  I want to shoot long just because it's fun shooting long.
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  So it like really fun to talk crap.
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  We're shooting the boat cycles course.
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  We're on target 20 and my, my, I wouldn't say that.
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  There's he got knee surgery. So he's at home in bed, 15 year
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  old and my 17 year old is working, doing yard work and
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  he's counting And I get a call from a brother-in-law.
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  He's at my brother in law's house.
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  And I'm like, man, I wonder if he got bit like I just don't
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  know why I said that. And I love my watch.
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  They got to have the the watch. I got the watch recently when
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  the cell service on it forgot the phone and he's like, Hey,
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  Drew got bit. What do you want me to do?
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  And I'm just like, it's kind of like trying to register
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  everything right among all these people.
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  And I was just like, you need to drive him.
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  He's like, I'm going to call an ambulance.
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  I'm like, no, you need to just drive him to Grossmont.
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  We don't have time to drive him to Grossmont.
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  And I don't think it's a big deal, right?
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  I think like, get a snake will do it all the time.
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  Like, you know, you're going to, he'll be all right.
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  You got a bit in the hand. Should say how he, I guess I can
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  say how he did it. He thought it was a Gopher snake
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  and he held it for like 2 minutes.
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  Oh, no, I didn't even know that part.
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  He held it that long. He.
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  Was holding it for like 2 minutes so he had a picture of
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  it on his Instagram stories. I deleted it because I like,
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  I'll get it. I get it a little bit, but he
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  no, I didn't get it off the insurance, but I deleted it
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  cause on accident. I thought it was on his phone,
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  but he was only, they only took it on his Instagram story.
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  So, so it wasn't like saved to his phone.
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  So I'm bummed about that, but I knew exactly looking at it.
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  But whatever man stupid kid. So then he's like, I'm going to
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  call ambulance like no, no, no, you're going to drive.
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  So then he's driving to the hospital and he calls me again.
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  He's like, he's turning blue. I'm going to pull over and call
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  an ambulance and I'm like BS, dude, you put your push to the
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  ground. And give a take it whatever.
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  Get him to drive, like whatever it takes, get to the hospital.
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  Get him to the hospital now. That's faster, you know, you're
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  already driving, you're. Already driving, Yeah, you know
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  I. Mean well, as a paramedic, I
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  can't condone that, yeah. I.
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  Don't know, I know. You're right.
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  He did the right thing. So he's so at this point, my
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  wife, I told my wife, OK, it's all right, just stay up here,
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  get everything packed up because it's come down a little bit
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  because they're all to shoot. My whole family's up there,
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  follows up there. My partner.
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  I mean, it's just you got a whole whole thing in the shoot
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  and I get the call and it's like, hey, you need to talk to
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  the doctor right now. And I got a photo of the doctor.
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  It's like I have a mission to save your son's life.
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  I'm like, what? Whatever he takes, and then he
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  goes bye. Hangs up the phone.
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  Wow, Dang. So then I'm like, wow, this is
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  serious. So I call my brother-in-law or I
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  call my father-in-law. I say, hey, look, this might be
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  it. You like you need to get my wife
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  in the car and go to the hospital.
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  Don't freak her out. But this is, this is, this is
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  going. To be it.
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  I call my one of my pastors and instantly hear 1000 people
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  praying for him. Like no joke, 1000 people
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  praying for him like all over the world.
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  I mean we're just, we go to a big mega church on our home
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  foothills and this everyone's praying for this kid.
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  So I'm doing like 120 through Ramona.
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  I'm flying. Let me just pass it.
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  I'm going. Passing the sheriff's station.
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  OH. Really I'm going I'm like pull
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  me over, right, Pull me over. What are you going to do?
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  I need the hospital because this might be it like I might this
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  might be going to see him, he said talking to him.
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  So at this point now they're putting, they said when he
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  walked in because I get to the hospital and he's already on,
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  he's on a breathing machine, feeding tube, whole nine hands
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  just. Giant.
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  I saw the pictures, dude, yeah. Yeah, so they, I talked to the
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  nurse and they're like, Oh yeah, I was pissed.
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  I thought he was a drunk kid. Like I was like, oh, I don't
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  want to deal with the guy's drunk.
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  I guess what happens when you get bit and you get a ton of
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  neurotoxins? This is a baby, a ton of
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  neurotoxins in them. What it does is it shuts your
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  brain down. Like it doesn't mess your lungs
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  up, your heart up. It shuts your brain down South.
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  Forget out of it. Your organs shut down so you can
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  lose your function so you don't forget how to breathe.
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  So the time he got there, he wasn't he wasn't able to breathe
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  and he was turning blue. And they gave him minutes and he
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  said the last thing he remembers before he went under is him
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  saying he's going to die. And he went under.
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  And so I get there that he's on the thing.
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  Everyone's praying for him. And they're telling us he's
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  going to move him to ICU, He's going to be down for at least a
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  few days. Like this is this is bad.
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  Like we're worried about using fingers, hand department
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  syndrome, where you're certainly getting that like almost like a
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  frostbite looking black. You know, tissue necrosis.
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  Yeah, yeah. And so he, he was not, you know,
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  I call it coma, but he was intubated.
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  Call it intubated. I don't know.
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  Call it a coma. I did.
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  His name is termed. They're like, it's not in coma.
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  I'm like. Intubated, it's just a breathing
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  tube down his trachea. Yeah, breathing tube, feeding
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  tube, whatever. All test burgers.
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  He couldn't. We could come from there for
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  years, you know, we'd never know, right?
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  So there's almost going to be a few days.
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  We moved to ICUI, went home and got my bed roll.
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  I'm I'm staying as long as I stay something, I'm going to be
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  there for a long time. That night he had got 10 vials
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  right away of anti venom, 15 GSA bile.
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  Then then the next morning at like 4:00 AM we're up and he's
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  got a 14 inch bicep. It's gotten worse.
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  He's swollen up all over his neck and he's just swollen.
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  And so they gave him 10 more biles, man.
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  So he's got 20 biles of bowels that got him in them so.
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  You're telling us you have the best insurance?
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  I got great insurance. I got great insurance.
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  I'm masks, correct? That's 300 grand.
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  Right. Yeah, at least at.
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  Least, and that's only for the. That's not the, oh, this is
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  probably a three quarter million, $1,000,000 bill.
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  I don't know what it's cost is, but the insurance, yeah.
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  So anyways, they're and now they're like we need to bring
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  the surgeons. We're thinking we have to Lance
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  him. They'll Lance you and they'll
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  open you up like and they just do long splits.
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  Yeah, open you. Up.
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  So the vent it's. So.
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  Big It's kind of like when people rack their head and they
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  like remove part of the stool. So the brain.
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  Got it. Area to swell or else you'll get
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  intercranial pressure and. Got it.
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  Regardless, he's going to be down for a few more days and
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  then the doctor walks in and it's like, dude, miracle got.
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  He's just like, Oh yeah, no surgery.
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  Take him off, take him off. Deep breathing, too.
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  Just like that. Just like that. 11:00 AM.
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  What? Yeah, So the doctor walks in.
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  All right, they took him off. I had to sit there for when you
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  drink him off like he's so drugged up, which by the way, I
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  mean he can never drink because he would be the most obnoxious
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  drug. So annoyed.
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  Don't be this kid. Like he's so doped up and you
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  have to, you have to breathe for an hour on your own.
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  So he's awake now. They wake him up, he's awake at
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  the teaching down his throat. How miserable is that?
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  You got you wake up, you don't know where you are and you got
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  to breathe into down your throat.
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  Can't talk. So he's just pissed off and
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  fired up. He's most stubborn kid in the
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  world. And I'm like, you can't
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  flatline. So what happens is he keeps you
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  watch your breathing thing puts me sharp.
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  But if you flatline, it goes red.
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  So like if he keeps flatline, you can put it back under.
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  So I have to sit there for an hour.
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  It'd be like 58 minutes to 57 minutes, 56 minutes.
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  Each minute to him feels like. A he flipped me off at one point
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  and like he I thought I was like the doctor off, but he's and
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  he's high as a guy. This kid never flipped me off
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  for his life and. Did you laugh or did you smack
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  him? Up.
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  Oh, I told him, like out. I don't care.
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  No, you don't get the doctor. I thought you're the doctor.
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  He comes out, He's like, he's like fooling it.
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  He's like, you know, I don't care.
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  They're like, I'll freak, smack you around, OK, I'll die or not
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  this point. I'm going to kill you.
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  You're already bringing me in all through that stress.
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  So the prayer worked. Oh, prayer worked, dude.
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  So he comes off and they're like, he's going to be here at
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  least five more days. And then dude, two more days
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  later, coming home. And how is he like now?
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  Just totally normal. Apparently his hand hurts too
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  much to do dishes and stuff. Of course, clearly sure.
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  I'm sure his handle hurt. Dishes can't take the trash, but
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  you don't have two hands broken. Yeah.
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  A little dizzy, yeah. So Chuck, when they do the like
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  put you into a coma or something like that, I believe that's to
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  kind of calm your mind down, right?
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  To like, stop the stress essentially, right?
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  Well, it could have that kind of therapy, but it's really just,
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  it's really just for me to knock you out so I can gain control of
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  all your functions, so I can put you the way I want you.
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  So now I just put you under. Got it.
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  So now I can put you in a position, I can give you fluids,
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  I can put a feeding tube, I can breathe through, I can put you
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  on a ventilator, Supplemental oxygen, I just take over.
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  And then that, of course, now there's no stress.
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  And so now you can rest and heal.
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  But that's really what it's for. We do the same thing and you can
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  do it in the field. Actually, we have medications
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  that we can knock someone out like that.
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  Wow. But it's.
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  Because they're combative and hurting themselves.
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  So many neurotoxins that he couldn't control, like his
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  twitches, right? So they like all these
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  uncontrollable shivers, like his face and his hands.
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  They're sure like I thought like I never wore snake gaiters and
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  now I'm coming like, yeah, because I mean, like, it's one.
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  I mean, he picked it up. He's he's an idiot.
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  He admits it. Stupid kid.
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  Kids do stupid stuff. Kids who I see you all time.
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  Fashion cars, fashion dirt bikes.
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  Made a mistake. You know, I know I'm mad at him,
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  right? Just you can talk as long as
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  you're alive. Like it could be.
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  Yeah. Throw rocks.
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  Yeah, it could be planet streaming right now.
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  So. But here's your guys A.
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  Lot, yeah, man, that's. Incredible.
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  But it's like, incredible to me that you can even talk about it
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  so calmly. No, it's got to be pretty
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  traumatic for you guys. Yeah, well, The thing is for me.
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  Like so I know what you went. Through yeah, so I don't know,
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  like if he got it, it could be that he's just got, you know,
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  worst reaction because they said it was the fastest reaction
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  they've ever seen. Like meaning like.
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  Maybe he has an allergy too or something.
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  Something it could be, but I'm like man, dude, if if this if he
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  got hit. Again.
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  Up in Palomar. Yeah, Yeah.
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  You wouldn't have made it. No, that's great.
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  You wouldn't have made it, but again, even.
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  Even if he was at the chute and got bit, probably it's too far.
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  Well, The thing is too, if you get bitten, the leg, it's a lot
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  better because it's got to go so much further.
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  You get bit on your left hand. There's like a straight line to
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  your heart, right a straight bet.
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  That vein runs right to your right to your.
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  Heart, He's not helping me. Anymore, Yeah.
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  And he's like, so that the hand thing, so like, moral story,
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  don't pick up rattlesnake. But at the same time I'm
• 11:17
  thinking like, dude, like we're out all the time.
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  We're climbing rocks and we hunt.
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  We're not hunting like on the trail, like Cow's Mountain.
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  You see a snake, It's like, oh, there's a trail like go.
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  We're hiking like. How many close calls do you
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  have? Quite a few in the summer.
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  I mean, I've, I've bumped into a lot of snakes, you know, but
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  generally it's, you see them and get out the way and let them
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  move or go around them, you know, picking them up, 'cause
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  when, when I first heard about this, first of all, someone
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  walks up and goes cheer. Drew's son got bit by a
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  rattlesnake by my head. I thought it was at the venue
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  and I was like, oh, no, you know, they go, Oh, it wasn't
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  here, I guess. And I was like, so I'm like,
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  well, that's better at least, you know, no, like, you know,
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  but and then and then I was like, how'd it happen?
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  And they go, well, you picked it up.
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  I go, how old is he? And they go 17.
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  And I was like, I feel like it's 17, but then like the baby ones,
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  you can't tell, you know? So when I, when they, when the
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  whole story came together, I was like, I totally understand how
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  the situation happened. I mean, look, when I was a kid,
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  I caught a, a fish. We thought it was a guitar fish.
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  And I held it and it was a Stingray 'cause they hide their
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  stingers inside their tail. And then he whipped it out.
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  Bam. And I still have a scarf to this
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  day right here. And it hurts so bad, but you
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  know, people go, what an idiot kid holding a Stingray.
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  But yeah, 'cause my mind and being a Floridian, you see
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  countless Stingrays. I'm like, I don't know how you
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  mistake a Stingray. Well, they look similar to
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  guitar fish a little bit, you know.
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  Yeah, I've never seen a guitar fish.
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  Well, so aside from that, thank God.
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  He's OK. Yeah, 100%.
• 13:00
  Thank God. That's amazing.
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  So so many people praying too. You know your church family.
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  People at the shoot. Oh, it's spread to the shoot,
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  everyone. Yeah.
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  So prior to that, what was your experience at the shoot?
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  Because I know, like I said, you're, you know, we've done one
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  together and I believe it was your first one ever.
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  And then since then you've done a couple.
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  But what did you think of #1 the venue and how it was ran, the
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  target set, Just like what did you kind of think of it?
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  Man, I am just like so proud of you guys for like going there
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  and seeing it like how much work you put into it.
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  And I think what you guys are doing up there is more than just
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  like a local archery shoot because there's a bunch of local
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  archery shoots. I think what you guys are
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  creating is in the is like the beginning stages of a
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  destination shoot. I think that this shoot could be
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  so much bigger. And I'm not saying it wasn't big
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  this year, but I'm thinking like, I don't want to say it's
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  going to be tack. I don't think it'll be that.
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  But like, but I think that people want to come to San Diego
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  and the eventually start getting people coming in from Nevada
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  and, you know, up north, you know, Northern California coming
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  down here for this shoot because it's a big cool shoot at a great
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  venue, you know, and you have the space of a lot more people.
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  Yeah, I agree 100%. So, so to speak on that.
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  I think partly because of our platform on YouTube, that's
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  already happened in a little bit.
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  Like last year we had people from 5 states.
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  This year, eight states. I was shocked how many people
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  came from all over California this year from all over the
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  state. So people definitely are already
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  traveling to it. But I think you're right.
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  I mean, next year, I wouldn't be surprised if there's people from
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  20 states, maybe even another country.
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  You know, like I can see it happening.
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  But I mean, for, for, for me doing a lot of shoots and
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  Brianna's was such a big help in this is I think where the ball
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  gets dropped a lot of times is on the production and like the
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  scheduling, how stuff's ran and the ease of, you know, the
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  machine, like how it goes once you're in.
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  So we put a lot of effort into making it.
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  Throw me in the back seat, I'll drive.
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  Yeah, you know, like making stuff.
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  You got to have the background stuff and obviously James's
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  YouTube is the biggest promoter of it.
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  And then they come because you know, they want to shoot what
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  you know, what kind of course of Bo disciples set like being
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  James, you know, they know he loves long stuff, fun stuff,
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  like they're expecting something that's a higher standard.
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  But then all that background stuff, whether it's Matt's work
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  on the course and and two minds together debating what would
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  work on the course to make it even more interesting.
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  And then, you know, whether it's flagging, signage, marketing,
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  graphics, all those like little details that makes it, you know,
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  it won't be TAC. Like you don't want to have a
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  scale for it. You don't have the venue size
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  for it. Yeah, I don't have it.
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  That's number one. You know, you got to have a
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  gondola or you got to drive people up in buses.
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  So we don't got that either. I.
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  Prefer to start them at the bottom and send them up I.
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  Would love to start at the top and come down but you know, I
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  could wish. But all of that together kind of
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  makes people feel. I think Destination event is the
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  best verbiage for it. It's like.
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  It's something you can come and have a whole weekend of stuff to
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  do and like we've already talked about things for future years,
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  but all those little things on top of having great courses and
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  a great venue to host it at is what makes you feel like you've
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  got this event, not just a day shoot.
• 16:47
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously, that's that's a great
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  way to describe it. So what did you think you shot
• 16:53
  all three courses? And you were there last.
• 16:57
  Year. So I'm kind of curious.
• 16:59
  I was there last year. I thought it was great.
• 17:02
  I mean, I, I like the variety of the three courses.
• 17:05
  I like the way it was kind of, I mean to not to say that the
• 17:10
  there was an easy one with the 20 to 40.
• 17:13
  It was at one level and then the, the bow and arrow shops was
• 17:16
  the next step up and then the bow disciples was harder.
• 17:20
  But I'm a critic too, of the shoots and target setups because
• 17:25
  I, I do those shoots to just be a better bow hunter.
• 17:28
  So you're hoping for bow hunting scenarios in your setup.
• 17:33
  And the 20 to 40 was money on that.
• 17:35
  And so was the rest of them. You know, of course there were
• 17:38
  novelty shots, 120 yarders and stuff.
• 17:40
  But I think what makes that thing possible is San Isabel.
• 17:45
  That terrain is beautiful. You wouldn't have you.
• 17:48
  I mean, well, how many total targets was there, 70?
• 17:51
  70 if you, 72 if you so. I wouldn't be a fan if the 70
• 17:56
  was in a flat field and we tried to manage, you know, even like
• 18:00
  Coranco in that way is kind of like that.
• 18:02
  But I like Coranco. Such a beautiful terrain in such
• 18:06
  a pretty place, with the view of the lake even too.
• 18:08
  And then you got deer tracks and Turkey feathers all over the
• 18:12
  place. I mean, for a hunter, that's the
• 18:15
  appeal you. Know it's funny when you get
• 18:17
  that many people out there, it's unfortunate because the building
• 18:20
  days leading up to it, by days, I mean months.
• 18:26
  There were so many times, especially right before, like
• 18:28
  the week of the shoe. I have pictures Ted would send
• 18:30
  me because he he knew I was real dedicated to Turkey season.
• 18:34
  That didn't pan out so well. Three times didn't pan out so
• 18:39
  well. Turkeys like Tom's galore in the
• 18:42
  campground and then I would be walking to targets and I jumped
• 18:47
  deer out of their beds. So it sucks when all the people
• 18:50
  would show up and it's like, oh, you don't actually see it, but
• 18:52
  like, there's so much wildlife out there.
• 18:56
  Yeah, and, and I think like you're saying about it being a
• 18:59
  event, you know, or a, a destination, shoot, I don't
• 19:02
  think people, I personally am from New England, so I would
• 19:06
  have never guessed that San Diego had beautiful terrain like
• 19:09
  that. I've seen that when I go on
• 19:11
  strike teams and stuff up through Paso Robles in that area
• 19:14
  of California. Absolutely beautiful in its own
• 19:17
  way, you know, But Santa Isabel is a little piece of that down
• 19:23
  here. So you can't get that in a lot
• 19:27
  of places. You know it's beautiful.
• 19:29
  And getting to shoot it, I think you either way you did it this
• 19:33
  year. Like we didn't say like you
• 19:35
  know, one day you can only shoot 2 courses or whatever.
• 19:37
  It's like you buy a one day pass, you buy a 2 day pass and
• 19:40
  we extended the time so you can shoot until we were out there
• 19:44
  and we tried to blow through or we did blow through bow and
• 19:47
  arrow shop like almost running through the course and there are
• 19:51
  still people out there. They got their, it's called boom
• 19:54
  boxes. I'm but they're out there just
• 20:00
  shooting it and they're like, it's I think it was after four
• 20:03
  now it was going on five. Like we're just laser leisurely
• 20:07
  shooting like go on past us. It's fun to see like they can go
• 20:11
  out and shoot as many times you want.
• 20:13
  You want to go back and do the course five times in one day.
• 20:15
  That's nice. Go for it.
• 20:17
  You want to go back out at 355 before the course, you know,
• 20:21
  closes to people going out at 4:00.
• 20:23
  You could shoot all day and evening.
• 20:25
  And it's like, how often do you get to do that?
• 20:27
  And there was no sketchy shots where you were worried about the
• 20:31
  people clearing the previous target and stuff so you could do
• 20:34
  that. And we put a lot of effort into
• 20:37
  that, you know, but you know, I've done some shoots at there's
• 20:42
  like some unsafe stuff. And I, I don't blame him for it.
• 20:45
  It's like you just be smart and try to avoid it.
• 20:48
  But for us, it's like we want everything to, first of all, you
• 20:52
  can never see a cone or a target from any other cone or target.
• 20:57
  And so like everything we build was like fully, you're like
• 21:00
  clear, clear. Did you make that trail
• 21:02
  yourself? We we bored all the trails,
• 21:05
  Yeah. Yeah, I can't believe that is
• 21:06
  normal. Yeah.
• 21:07
  Sometimes you encounter. Original trails most.
• 21:11
  Yeah, sometimes we'll use like reuse one we made last year or
• 21:14
  that Bear State had, but everything is linked by stuff
• 21:17
  that we built, you know and and the craziest thing was you
• 21:22
  didn't get to shoot motorcycles, but y'all both did and you know
• 21:25
  how crazy that last uphill is where it's just uphill forever
• 21:29
  You're. Actually split off, we were in a
• 21:31
  4A group of four and we actually, Mackie and I just
• 21:35
  split up at that point with by ourselves because someone in our
• 21:38
  group was like, I need to take a break and OK, I'll see you
• 21:42
  later. And kept trucking.
• 21:44
  Yeah, but that's what makes that place a destination shoot is
• 21:49
  because it's not going to be a boring thing.
• 21:51
  You're going to get a hike in, It's adventurous, You're looking
• 21:54
  for the next spot. And there was so many targets
• 21:58
  where we would get there and the first person to arrive would go.
• 22:01
  Do you see it? No, I don't see it.
• 22:02
  Where do you see it? We're literally looking around.
• 22:06
  Like. Hilarious.
• 22:08
  Could not find that Panther. It's like blends in with the
• 22:11
  tree, you know? Looking you're looking behind
• 22:13
  you. Like what?
• 22:14
  Yeah, first you got to find the target, you know that was.
• 22:17
  Awesome. Have you shot attack yet?
• 22:19
  No, I'm gonna shoot 2 the two though.
• 22:21
  Oh, sweet. OK, yeah, because you're going
• 22:22
  to Utah. Utah and Montana.
• 22:25
  Kill it. Look at that.
• 22:27
  Well, there's so I guess James knows like when we're building
• 22:31
  these courses and I'm out there like, no, it needs to be harder,
• 22:34
  needs to be harder. And then we get out there and
• 22:36
  we're safe to shut your windows and stuff.
• 22:38
  And I'm like, gap it out. It's useful.
• 22:41
  But you know, there are those hard ones to find that I
• 22:45
  contemplated. I was like, should we put ribbon
• 22:48
  around these targets like tact does so people can spot a piece
• 22:51
  here? I don't know.
• 22:52
  Because you get in certain shady spots, you cannot see the
• 22:56
  target. You just.
• 22:57
  Are in the tree, yeah. Yeah, that one.
• 22:59
  And that tree's all black. I was.
• 23:00
  Looking all over the place. The one, the one I heard people
• 23:04
  had the most trouble finding. I knew.
• 23:05
  I knew what would happen. It was a dinosaur.
• 23:07
  Yeah. Because it's like you're on top.
• 23:10
  You're so high. Yeah, we were way and you're
• 23:12
  looking down in this valley going, where's this time?
• 23:14
  See, I kind of like it. Like you find it.
• 23:16
  Yeah, you don't find. Like that about it?
• 23:18
  You know what makes it? A notch you.
• 23:20
  Know better than your standard weekend archery?
• 23:23
  That's what you do. That that section, yeah, is
• 23:26
  actually my favorite, maybe my favorite.
• 23:28
  And we built other than the end of Bow Disciples where it's just
• 23:32
  crazy. I'll get back to the story I was
• 23:33
  going to tell, but that dinosaur section, we've actually wanted
• 23:37
  to build into that last year, but it was our first year and
• 23:40
  we're like the time isn't really there.
• 23:42
  And it's so thick this year we're like, no, we're doing it.
• 23:45
  We have more time. We're doing it.
• 23:47
  We just bored through like the nastiest stuff to build a trail
• 23:50
  down there. But I love how you get on that
• 23:53
  little point. You got to find the dinosaur,
• 23:55
  you shoot the dinosaur, the trails epic to it through those
• 23:58
  like. I have cut that line too.
• 24:00
  And if I remember still there's a down I.
• 24:02
  Knew I was shooting that direction.
• 24:03
  You couldn't find. The dinosaur.
• 24:05
  James and Matt had to point it out to me and I was like how?
• 24:08
  How did I miss it? I helped build it and I couldn't
• 24:11
  find it. But then I love when you pull
• 24:13
  your arrows and send you down into more new stuff and then you
• 24:16
  shoot that bear almost straight up.
• 24:18
  I miss that bear and that's still my favorite.
• 24:20
  Shot yeah, I love that section right there.
• 24:23
  It is good section, yeah. What I really liked about those
• 24:25
  shots, though, was there was, I don't know, maybe at least a
• 24:28
  half a dozen targets that were a tunnel of you had to go through
• 24:33
  this tunnel of. Those are the the best trails
• 24:38
  where like arches over and a lot of the boat disciples at the
• 24:41
  end. It's unfortunate, but you had
• 24:44
  more important things to go do this take care of that end.
• 24:49
  You do a lot of little like tunnel stuff in that uphill
• 24:53
  stuff. So you didn't get a lot of shade
• 24:54
  if you needed to stop and take a break.
• 24:56
  But those are the cool little trails that were unfortunately a
• 24:59
  lot of poison oak to I didn't. Get it that so I spend a lot of
• 25:04
  time in the gym. Not like but I never used rubber
• 25:08
  boxes. I always use the wood box
• 25:10
  because if you miss, it's gonna hurt.
• 25:13
  I want to miss, know, let me rip my shit up through that course.
• 25:17
  If you miss, you're getting poisoned up.
• 25:19
  So there was a consequence to James courses where if you miss,
• 25:23
  like if something like I don't mind going in there.
• 25:25
  Yeah. Exactly.
• 25:26
  Yeah, it's a write off. I'm sick of this.
• 25:28
  I don't get it because I didn't. I crawled in and a couple of
• 25:33
  them and didn't get any. Questions.
• 25:34
  Brianna got fooled. By yeah I thought I didn't get
• 25:37
  poison oak but I just realized tech new works really well on me
• 25:41
  so I stopped using tech new for a little while Worst decision
• 25:45
  I've ever made. I my whole I looked like I tell
• 25:48
  the story probably countless Times Now, but you know, if
• 25:51
  you've ever seen the movie Hitch and when he eats that fish on
• 25:54
  that date and he has to go buy Benadryl and he's drunk at the
• 25:57
  store from drinking it and his eyes are like swollen shut.
• 26:00
  I looked like hitch. I can make a meme of myself next
• 26:03
  to him and I looked that bad. I at no, no one will ever see
• 26:09
  those pictures. They will not see the light of
• 26:11
  day. They are horrible, but I get
• 26:15
  poison oak real bad. I learned, so I've.
• 26:18
  Only had it once. I've got, I've got a fire.
• 26:21
  I can just like I can tell I touched many little leaves while
• 26:25
  I was out there because now I can't stop itching like one
• 26:27
  there, one there, one there. Got one on the.
• 26:29
  Top of my way, not bad. It's just like itchy, you know?
• 26:32
  But I've been blasted. The key is just stay.
• 26:34
  Like I kept saying to everyone, keep your hands and feet in the
• 26:38
  trail at all times. Maybe we used those pictures of
• 26:43
  you on science. Yeah.
• 26:45
  I'm like, hey, warning. Right over the logo.
• 26:53
  We did actually have one of the vendors, VFW, they were also a
• 26:58
  core sponsor, Ramona VFW and they actually sponsored the 1st
• 27:01
  10 veterans or ex veterans who signed up free passes.
• 27:06
  No way do you just. Call them X.
• 27:08
  Oh, it is. Well, veterans are veterans.
• 27:10
  They're. Active because they're.
• 27:12
  Yeah, so they were free first time to sign up, which I thought
• 27:14
  was pretty cool. But in their booth they also had
• 27:18
  a decontamination stuff, which is cool.
• 27:22
  Yeah, Doug's way cool. Yeah.
• 27:24
  So he's he's already on board for next year, so he'll be there
• 27:27
  again next year. But so anyway, Matt and I are
• 27:29
  shooting the Sasquatch target with people as they come through
• 27:32
  on on Bow Disciples. This dude comes through by
• 27:36
  himself in the morning, hustling a pretty good pace, and he's
• 27:40
  just shooting through. And I go, I think I'd seen him
• 27:43
  the day before, but I wasn't positive.
• 27:44
  So I say, what's up? He shoots the Sasquatch.
• 27:48
  I see him hustle up, pass a group, hustle down, and I'm
• 27:52
  like, that dude's a beast right there.
• 27:55
  Hour goes by, here he comes again up to me and Matt and I
• 27:59
  go, weren't you just Here he goes.
• 28:01
  Yeah, I ran it once. I'm going to go run it again.
• 28:03
  He was running the course, he said.
• 28:06
  Yeah, I missed my workout this morning, so I'm just going to
• 28:08
  run it again. For anyone who says that.
• 28:12
  He shot all of them. He shot all of them and ran.
• 28:15
  Even the uphill he was would pull his arrow, Sprint to the
• 28:18
  next cone, shoot it. I'm like, this guy is a savage.
• 28:22
  He was shooting the Dcas. Come on.
• 28:24
  Not me. I think he's on to something
• 28:26
  though. Wouldn't it be funny to have an
• 28:27
  event where you actually we're on a stopwatch and your
• 28:32
  scorecard and your time mattered?
• 28:34
  That would be. Interesting and motocross they
• 28:36
  call that speeding style. You can do like they have like 2
• 28:39
  trick jumps and you can it's a race, a timed race.
• 28:43
  But then if you say throw like a Superman flip and the guy you're
• 28:46
  against only does like a no hand or you cut time.
• 28:53
  Yeah yeah Bearman. And they do it at X Games too.
• 28:55
  Pretty sick. He's a big supercross fans just
• 28:58
  like me and Paul. How close are we?
• 28:59
  Going to Paul, you're not going to Paula said.
• 29:01
  Right. No.
• 29:02
  I am too, I just haven't been forever.
• 29:04
  Paula's this weekend. Saturday.
• 29:06
  No way. Yeah, Paula, this weekend.
• 29:07
  It's the first outdoor national in the year.
• 29:09
  No way. 65 bucks you can go have great time.
• 29:12
  Yeah, we have 100%. I would love to go.
• 29:14
  How many? Fans usually go there.
• 29:16
  Is it made? Of you No, it's not made him at
• 29:18
  all, but it's like it's like got the like kind of like the Barona
• 29:21
  Speedway vibes or the Collins Speedway vibes.
• 29:23
  You know what I mean? It's like open seating.
• 29:25
  I'm going to bring my Tricer Easy Up, put in the one corner
• 29:28
  set last year, trying it on TVI don't know if they're going to
• 29:30
  stop me, but I'm like, well, last year I sat there, everyone
• 29:32
  at Easy up. So I'm like, I'm going to Tricer
• 29:34
  here so I can be on the NBC the whole time, you know?
• 29:35
  I'll be sick. See, the last time I went to
• 29:37
  Paulo was to the range and I used my Tricer tripod out there.
• 29:40
  Yeah. He's ran a tricer since like
• 29:42
  pretty early. When did you get yours?
• 29:46
  As soon as I found out about them because I needed one so I
• 29:50
  didn't have a big one. I only had a small like sitting
• 29:52
  one. So then once I saw basically I
• 29:56
  saw that Instagram ad that you guys had where you were.
• 29:59
  I. Said that to James I.
• 30:01
  Was like. Hey, I took that on my phone and
• 30:05
  they have just used that thing like crazy.
• 30:07
  It doesn't it just works. It doesn't, the ad just.
• 30:09
  Really works. I've had a lot of people be
• 30:11
  like, hey, you're leading off from the Tricer ad and I go,
• 30:15
  yeah, I'm going to. I told him I'm going to start
• 30:16
  charging royalties and they go, well, you are the best one in
• 30:19
  the ad. You're so like, stoked on my
• 30:21
  day. Well, Matt's got a right call,
• 30:23
  White Claw, and he gets Hammer. I have to delete comments all
• 30:27
  the time. Oh my.
• 30:28
  God, nice nice white clothes fag.
• 30:32
  All the time he's getting hammered for.
• 30:33
  Drinking white clothes. No way white clothes are.
• 30:36
  I can't buy anything that a guy was drinking white clothes by
• 30:38
  Oh. No.
• 30:40
  Were you were you there Saturday night at the event or no?
• 30:42
  I was gone. So you.
• 30:43
  So he got five on Saturday. 5:00 Saturday.
• 30:46
  And you, you had a cabin and everything, too.
• 30:48
  Oh yeah. 3-4 cabins. Day yeah so he missed the show,
• 30:54
  but we got to talk about the show a little bit how much Jack
• 30:56
  killed it the lighting shout out to Tim and job site supply
• 31:00
  helping out with the lighting it was crazy It was like it was
• 31:04
  cool because when Jack started it was pretty bright out still
• 31:07
  so you couldn't really see the lights on Jack but then by the
• 31:10
  time it finished it was he was like all lit up it was a.
• 31:12
  Perfect time. For a show, the sun was setting
• 31:15
  right over his right shoulder, so for us, we were watching the
• 31:18
  beautiful sunset, which then transitioned into good lighting
• 31:22
  on his show. So it's pretty awesome, yeah.
• 31:24
  What do you think of the songs he chose and then like his
• 31:26
  singing? It's good variety.
• 31:27
  I liked how he threw down a couple of oldies for us old
• 31:31
  dudes. If you could throw anything in
• 31:33
  there for next year, what it what would?
• 31:35
  It be that's a good question. As far as his set.
• 31:38
  Yeah, like a song. Throw it.
• 31:39
  I'd have to talk to him cuz there's a couple of, I don't
• 31:42
  know, one or two like a Morgan Wallen song or something like
• 31:45
  that, that I really like that new album 6 so.
• 31:48
  Yeah, that would probably take some talking into there.
• 31:51
  He's I suggested it. Doesn't have a crazy voice so he
• 31:55
  could do that. Yeah, well, I said Cody Johnson,
• 31:58
  who I mean is, I mean, he's big time Christian.
• 32:03
  He's very country like. Very.
• 32:07
  I mean, yeah, he's. Two new ways.
• 32:09
  He's like Tom Petty or anything. No, he played Creedence
• 32:12
  Clearwater. OK.
• 32:14
  Yeah. And he played Hank Williams.
• 32:17
  Junior, there's 100. Songs he could yeah, he's got to
• 32:20
  do a whole new set list next year.
• 32:22
  And here's the coolest part. So he finished the show and some
• 32:26
  people that came down from like Central California that are
• 32:30
  cattle ranchers, they were all like 2021 walk up to him.
• 32:35
  And the one guy goes, hey, like basically all his friends
• 32:38
  actually, 'cause he was too humble to say it.
• 32:40
  They're like, this guy's like an absolute savage on the guitar.
• 32:43
  And he whips out his guitar. They're sitting by the fire
• 32:46
  playing and ripping it again. A different like say oh, I saw.
• 32:50
  A short. Yeah, a short clip on that.
• 32:51
  On Jack, yeah, Jack put it up. So next year Jack is going to
• 32:55
  have a a guitarist plus a background singer at least.
• 33:00
  And I guess the guy plays keys so he might bring a keyboard as
• 33:03
  well. Yeah, I can say like I got the
• 33:07
  cabins. I've been, I've been Henshaw.
• 33:08
  I used to be an MCC member and the cabins are great because you
• 33:11
  just want to, you want to go up there and camp.
• 33:13
  It's easy, but my trailers in the shop next year, I will stay
• 33:17
  over with you guys because like there's a different vibe even
• 33:19
  though you're only a quarter mile away, there's different
• 33:22
  like staying in the campground, it's like a different vibe.
• 33:23
  It's almost like beach camp with a bunch of people or going to
• 33:25
  desert with a bunch of people because like it's a bunch of
• 33:27
  like minded dude. It's like I run more than going
• 33:29
  to the desert. So everyone's over there having
• 33:30
  fun. Like I'm going to read the corn
• 33:32
  hole out next time. Some horseshoes, maybe, you
• 33:34
  know, some bocci and just get out there kids.
• 33:36
  And like my kids were going around and like, everyone's so
• 33:39
  cool, man. Like Derek.
• 33:41
  Derek, he's paraplegic. Oh yeah.
• 33:43
  I can't thought Derek was the coolest dude and he would not
• 33:46
  leave Derek when he was out there playing Derek's fire one
• 33:49
  with marshmallows with Derek. He just thought my 4 year old
• 33:52
  and it's just a cool vibe, man. But you could totally bring the
• 33:56
  family to this and it wasn't like rowdy.
• 33:58
  I don't think it's going to be condoned.
• 33:59
  I don't think you guys want rowdy.
• 34:01
  I think it's like, it's like, it's like an event where your
• 34:02
  mother's really enjoy yourself. It wasn't lights out at 8:00,
• 34:06
  but you're right, it wasn't rowdy for us.
• 34:10
  We went out there and brought our camper out there.
• 34:12
  We got there early Friday afternoon and that was my intent
• 34:16
  and I told James I felt like I was 1,000,000 miles away from
• 34:20
  work. I had the greatest weekend and
• 34:22
  it's right here. And that's something that you
• 34:26
  can't do at other shoots. Well, they should.
• 34:29
  Of course you're not. You're coming and going, but
• 34:32
  other places. You're maybe just all the
• 34:33
  vendors here in Southern California just don't allow for
• 34:36
  that. There's no space for it.
• 34:37
  There's. Yeah, so you need it thing.
• 34:39
  Wait I get to take my bow with me and play with my bow for two
• 34:42
  days and go camping and hang out with?
• 34:45
  Great. People and get a show and see a
• 34:48
  beautiful place and a, you know, a beautiful view and house.
• 34:51
  Just money. You do a good time and do it
• 34:53
  like I think. I mean I'm not like an expert
• 34:55
  three archery shooter guy, but I'm doing a lot now, right?
• 34:57
  I'm kind of going. I got the buck like I'm shooting
• 34:59
  all the time. I'm a bunch of archery houses
• 35:01
  here. It's kind of like there's, it's
• 35:03
  kind of like the Wild West. It's a Negro shoots right now.
• 35:05
  It's kind of like you show up, It's like, Oh yeah, 14 bucks
• 35:07
  later. Like what?
• 35:09
  Like what's going on? There's no like you guys really.
• 35:11
  You can tell it's actually an event.
• 35:13
  I think a lot of it has to do with like our local stuff.
• 35:15
  It's kind of like free stuff by like clubs and they're not out
• 35:18
  there, you know, it's just we show up and shoot this thing
• 35:20
  every month. But you definitely put a lot of
• 35:22
  time into it. Like I can't imagine like like
• 35:25
  how many hours do you guys put in?
• 35:27
  We're going to try to like total it up, but I mean, when you
• 35:30
  count up all the people, all the hours, I mean.
• 35:33
  You got to be making like like $2.00 an hour.
• 35:37
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like you guys put,
• 35:39
  that's a cool thing is like you weren't, you did it to create
• 35:41
  something for like for the community.
• 35:43
  Like I really appreciate you guys.
• 35:44
  Like it's like, like you guys weren't doing it for the, I
• 35:46
  guess all the hours. I'm like there's no way this was
• 35:49
  worth the hours. But you did something that was
• 35:51
  so cool that I think it's just going to grow and it's like an
• 35:54
  investment in the future of motorcycles and these shoots.
• 35:56
  And like, I was I, I was blown away.
• 35:58
  Like, I can't believe you guys cut that stuff.
• 36:01
  That I think the word of mouth is going to be nothing but
• 36:03
  positive. It was incredible.
• 36:04
  Well, I didn't hear him on the planet.
• 36:06
  And this year, what was crazy is last year we had a lot of people
• 36:10
  too. We had 159 shooters this year at
• 36:13
  like 235 I think. 237 when he. I couldn't.
• 36:16
  I can't believe you couldn't even tell.
• 36:19
  Yeah, that's so big. It is.
• 36:20
  That's. So you that's so many, but I've
• 36:22
  been shot shoot where he was backing up and like I can't
• 36:25
  really shoot 50 people there like.
• 36:26
  Shooting. 3050 shooters, I'll just and there's wait, there's
• 36:29
  probably 4 or 500 people there. That so the only reason we were
• 36:32
  able to pull off the flow in this case was the same last year
• 36:36
  it's because we spread them across three courses in a big
• 36:40
  area so I told a guy I. Never waited.
• 36:44
  No, a guy, a guy asked me, he said how many people you think
• 36:47
  you'll have next year. I said, well, if our growth
• 36:50
  curves the same, it'll probably be relatively close to like 400
• 36:54
  to 500, somewhere in that range. And he goes, honestly, I think
• 36:59
  like he goes, I waited on a Group One time.
• 37:04
  I shot all three courses. So he goes, I think you have the
• 37:07
  capacity for it. I go, I agree 100%.
• 37:10
  The only thing we might have to change is just like spread
• 37:13
  people a little more like rigidly, but even.
• 37:16
  Maybe knock times or something? Something like that, yeah.
• 37:18
  But even then, like this year, we didn't do that at all.
• 37:21
  We were even more just go down there that yeah.
• 37:24
  Last year we were so nervous about it.
• 37:26
  We were like, OK, James sat out there for like the first couple
• 37:29
  hours and was directing people based on what they were
• 37:32
  interested in doing and then sending them out to certain
• 37:35
  courses this year. I mean, I just checked people
• 37:38
  in. I was like, I'll tell you about
• 37:39
  the courses, pick whichever one you like.
• 37:41
  And then they, well, I told them where they were and then they
• 37:43
  went course maps, by the way, next year got to be a poster.
• 37:46
  I realized that after the fact. I got some hookups.
• 37:49
  I have some really good hookups on X.
• 37:50
  This is a podcast with me yesterday.
• 37:52
  OK, cool. Like let's get you with on X and
• 37:54
  I'm a sponsor and like we should you just have Hey, here's here's
• 37:57
  the trail for this one. Here's the trail for this one.
• 37:59
  You just trail for this one. Here's the pins for every
• 38:01
  freaking target. Not target for the for don't get
• 38:03
  the target but. The cone.
• 38:05
  Dude you can totally do it on X so easily because.
• 38:07
  That's how we built the courses, so we I made maps.
• 38:10
  You have the tracker, you use tracker, so you just share that
• 38:13
  tracker with everybody you know and if they don't have on X,
• 38:16
  well then you download it, you know, put on X booth in and.
• 38:18
  If on X has a booth, they could have three QR codes, one for
• 38:22
  each course or one for all of them.
• 38:24
  And then, yeah, if people don't have it, it's a great spot to
• 38:26
  download. Yeah.
• 38:28
  And that's a good thing. Even though you're kind of out
• 38:30
  in the middle of nowhere ish, there's still service out there.
• 38:33
  Like I have serviced the entire course.
• 38:36
  Thankfully you had some. So I don't know, it's just a, a
• 38:41
  great venue and event because someone was talking out there
• 38:47
  like, you know, this was better than some and give them credit
• 38:51
  again, it's not better than all tax, that's for sure.
• 38:54
  I don't freaking love tax, but they're like it's better than
• 38:57
  some of the tax we've been to, you know, like we drove 3 hours
• 39:00
  to be here and we would absolutely do it again because
• 39:03
  for us, anything similar to this, we got to drive up to
• 39:07
  Northern California another six hours north of us.
• 39:10
  So there's nothing like that in Central or Southern other than
• 39:14
  the Big Bear shoot. I've heard big bears.
• 39:17
  Which is? That's still not even quite
• 39:19
  central. You're talking about the High
• 39:20
  Sierra one that's coming up. This.
• 39:21
  No, that's. Called the big.
• 39:23
  Bear shoot, but that's a tournament, so it's a little bit
• 39:26
  different. That's like an actual sport
• 39:27
  tournament. It's early August I believe,
• 39:32
  which I plan to go to if I can. But yeah, and then there is the
• 39:35
  high S1 done by Team Whiskey. They do two different shoots,
• 39:38
  one beginning in June, 1 middle of June.
• 39:41
  So that's like and that are I don't know, I don't know their
• 39:44
  numbers yet. But then you have Redding, which
• 39:47
  is a competition again and massive, but it's all up north.
• 39:50
  You got Lake Tahoe, you've got. Redding's a big tournament too.
• 39:53
  So, like, those are different things, you know, like big
• 39:56
  bears, a tournament. Shoot wise, event wise
• 39:58
  destination, just fun shoots. And next year I did, that's one
• 40:02
  thing I want to, I mean, we have a few things we're going to do
• 40:05
  next year we already have planned out, but one of them for
• 40:07
  sure. And I wanted to do it this year
• 40:09
  and just kind of forgot about it.
• 40:10
  And then I like didn't pan out. But I would love to have a place
• 40:13
  where if you want your scores to be compared, you can drop your
• 40:16
  card and then do Excel sheet. Yeah, is.
• 40:20
  There like an app. Or what?
• 40:21
  Dude, I downloaded an app for it and it gave me a leaderboard.
• 40:24
  So like as we're going told me he was in first.
• 40:26
  That's incredible. It's so easy.
• 40:29
  It has your name, everything right there.
• 40:30
  But you need to get a motorcycles app.
• 40:31
  It's kind of so cheap to do. Like you need to make a
• 40:33
  motorcycles archery app just for like this stuff.
• 40:36
  Like it's I was going to tell you that before.
• 40:38
  Like I, I downloaded one, I put my phone in there, set up one
• 40:40
  ringing, but it was cool. So I'd had like, we had like 5
• 40:43
  people shooting with us and you, you'd be able to punch your
• 40:45
  scorn every single time. And it kept a leaderboard for
• 40:47
  you and. Everybody punched.
• 40:50
  Your own one guy punched him. You probably can make it till
• 40:52
  they can communicate, but I just punched him for everybody like
• 40:55
  so they call it out and be like James, you know, James 12,
• 41:02
  Chuck, Chuck 10, Drew five. You know what?
• 41:05
  I. Mean and he just punched it in
• 41:07
  and then like as you're going, you're able to be like, hey, I'm
• 41:10
  one. So a couple times I was like one
• 41:12
  behind and then you're like stepping your game up, you know,
• 41:14
  going on a string of fives. That was just like killing me.
• 41:18
  I shot so good. I started with that.
• 41:20
  The first course I shot on, I just wasn't shooting good.
• 41:22
  And then I shot the Bono shot course.
• 41:25
  I shot shot lights out shooting great.
• 41:27
  I was shooting with Josh, so I was kind of intimidated.
• 41:29
  So I'm sure Josh I was there. Shouldn't go with Josh.
• 41:33
  I'm like, oh, good. It's like he shows up and I'm
• 41:35
  like. Yeah, I'm stoked you guys met,
• 41:37
  by the way. That was one thing I wanted to
• 41:39
  happen because I told Josh, I told each of them before the
• 41:42
  event. I said I got someone I want you
• 41:44
  to meet because I told Josh you got to carry these tripods.
• 41:48
  And he goes, yeah, I'll do it. And then I told him.
• 41:49
  I said I got a guy who I think you should have carrier tripods
• 41:52
  and then you got to shoot together.
• 41:54
  It's classic. Yeah, that's cool.
• 41:55
  Yeah, he was super cool. Oh.
• 41:57
  Damn dude, it's like salt the earth.
• 41:59
  Like I can't believe like like my brother-in-law used to work
• 42:02
  at Chili's so we'd always be like, hey, what should I get at
• 42:05
  Chili's? What should I buy?
• 42:06
  You know what I mean? Like, how's this burger taste?
• 42:08
  Even after years later? You know, everyone's asking Josh
• 42:12
  questions and he. Never gets tired.
• 42:16
  Of any. He actually wants.
• 42:18
  Focuses on you and he answers you thoroughly and he doesn't
• 42:23
  throw you a Bony. I watch Josh.
• 42:26
  Intriguing to talk to. Because he knows so much.
• 42:30
  The guy has he's so smart. But the coolest thing I saw of
• 42:33
  Josh, and I know like how cool he is, but I was sitting in the
• 42:39
  practice range doing giveaways and Brianna is separate.
• 42:44
  So we have two separate jobs. She runs up and she goes, hey,
• 42:50
  someone just blew up their bow. They dry fired it.
• 42:52
  Josh is sitting there, goes well, I gotta go.
• 42:54
  Just gets up and goes and fixes. It.
• 42:57
  With a tie down strap because he didn't have a.
• 42:59
  Strap straps, no. So we did get a a bow press
• 43:03
  eventually, but then something about it wouldn't work on one of
• 43:05
  the IT. Was too short.
• 43:06
  Again, too much over the head for me archery knowledge wise
• 43:10
  the bow. Was too long.
• 43:12
  Is that what it was? I don't know.
• 43:13
  But and then one, he got the whole thing pressed together so
• 43:17
  he could put on strings. And then he's like, where are
• 43:20
  your strings? And he goes like, oh, they're
• 43:22
  ruined. He's like, well, what am I
• 43:24
  doing? You don't have any strings.
• 43:26
  I can't do anything with your bow.
• 43:28
  So he was like, all right, back that one back out, hand it back.
• 43:30
  He's like, sorry, buddy, you got to take it to the shop.
• 43:33
  Then took the next bow, immediately did that one.
• 43:35
  Put that one all back together. Oh, more than one bow got blown
• 43:38
  out. Two bows at the same.
• 43:40
  Three total. Yeah, it's because you people,
• 43:43
  you're talking and having fun and like, I've seen it.
• 43:46
  Happen many times I'm. Almost done.
• 43:48
  You're talking he's go. Twice and and not to mention
• 43:52
  one, you're socializing 2 you're kind of nervous because you're
• 43:55
  shooting with other people and maybe really don't know and
• 43:58
  you're tired. Yeah.
• 43:59
  So those three and I told people like, don't be embarrassed by
• 44:02
  that. I've seen veterans well.
• 44:05
  Also, how many times have you seen the group go whoa?
• 44:08
  Whoa, yeah. And stop.
• 44:09
  Usually it's too late. I think you'll hear Stop.
• 44:12
  I would love to know how many bows get dry fired at tack like
• 44:16
  per tack event and then overall for the season it's got to be an
• 44:20
  enormous. Amount.
• 44:21
  Yeah, that's why when you get a new string, you keep that string
• 44:23
  as a backup. You know, keep it in your your
• 44:26
  bag and have it handy. Yeah, just never know.
• 44:29
  Could you guys try the food trucks at all?
• 44:32
  They're out of. Food this year.
• 44:33
  So that's the crazy part. They're out of fact to go to the
• 44:36
  restaurant. Which one was good?
• 44:38
  Which one did you go to? The one store.
• 44:41
  Oh. Oh, that, that restaurant is
• 44:42
  good. I like.
• 44:43
  Really good. Yeah, I.
• 44:44
  Mean and the prices are like for out here low and what old.
• 44:47
  School. I feel like they're in a box.
• 44:50
  Yeah, I bought all. I bought price.
• 44:52
  We had price for lunch. And then we had, I mean, I was
• 44:59
  selling merch, right? We sold a ton of merch.
• 45:02
  I think we sold like 59 shirts or something, which I'm pretty
• 45:05
  happy with. And then we had Archery
• 45:09
  Evolution there, selling the thing on her boats to like, it's
• 45:12
  like us, so it doesn't blow up your site when you set it down.
• 45:15
  Dude, I bought that. He's coming on the podcast.
• 45:18
  He said he had sold more stuff at that event than like, he's
• 45:23
  like, this is by far the most like action I've got, Yeah.
• 45:28
  Josh uses it. Yeah, and he ordered 50 to a
• 45:30
  shop. Josh's I bought it and it's like
• 45:33
  you can just lay your bow down. I'm so sick of like all this,
• 45:36
  like stuff on your bow, like you just lay it down and then you
• 45:38
  can stock with it. Yeah.
• 45:40
  Really. That's key.
• 45:41
  He had me do push ups on my bow so I could put the full weight
• 45:46
  of my body on the bow. Never does my sight or even the
• 45:53
  the edge of my mule touch the ground now.
• 45:55
  So if I'm just shooting and I need to set it down, I can flip
• 45:58
  it on to the mule. If I want to stalk and crawl
• 46:01
  across 200 yards, I can put my entire body weight.
• 46:05
  He filmed it. Me doing push ups on the bow
• 46:08
  doesn't affect my sight. I was like how perfect is this?
• 46:11
  Because it feels nerve wracking when you're sitting there
• 46:15
  stalking an animal and like this last stock we did and I'm
• 46:20
  crawling. And then you gotta like you're
• 46:22
  worried. So like you place the bow up
• 46:23
  ahead and then try to crawl to it.
• 46:25
  You move it again, try to crawl to it.
• 46:28
  And I'm like, now I don't have to worry that I bumped my entire
• 46:30
  site before I go to shoot like. I bought one too.
• 46:33
  Yeah, the thing that I liked about it. 50 bucks.
• 46:36
  I use my dirt bike when I elk hunt and stuff, so I like the
• 46:39
  fact that I can bend it straight down and then when I put it on
• 46:42
  my pack I can hang it on that first and then my straps are
• 46:45
  just holding it steady. I'm really stoked about that.
• 46:49
  But yeah, dope product is awesome.
• 46:52
  But my point was that like, I'm, I'm really happy the vendors did
• 46:56
  well because they, they, I was nervous about it and they did
• 46:59
  really well. The food truck, the Mexican
• 47:02
  food, he ran out of meat twice and drove to Don's and got more
• 47:07
  and then the other guy, he came and ran out of food in two hours
• 47:12
  it was he drove. Out he.
• 47:14
  Told me I'm going to bring food to last me till nine and he ran
• 47:17
  out in two hours so I was like, I guess a vendor.
• 47:20
  'S burger though the smash burger.
• 47:22
  I'm happy about. Possibly the most delicious
• 47:25
  smash burger I've ever tasted. Yeah, it was so good.
• 47:29
  There was some sort of vegetable.
• 47:30
  I don't know if it's Pickles or something in there, I don't
• 47:33
  know, but it normally James knows I'm a weird eater, so
• 47:37
  typically all of that comes off the burger.
• 47:40
  I left it on it. Yeah, well, I'm not picky.
• 47:43
  I'm just. Strange.
• 47:45
  And like, I have to separate the food and I have to eat it in a
• 47:48
  certain order it can touch. But like I have to, yeah, it's
• 47:53
  a, it's a OCD thing when it comes to eating for me.
• 47:57
  But. Very good.
• 47:59
  Yes. Oh, James knows.
• 48:01
  And if like it's totally random if like you have a steak and you
• 48:07
  mashed potatoes, if you run out of one or the other, I cannot
• 48:12
  finish the other one. So I have to cut them in a way
• 48:17
  that I finish them both at the same time.
• 48:20
  If I run out then I give the rest to you.
• 48:24
  What a labor which? Is great.
• 48:25
  It's tough. It's very tough.
• 48:27
  For and she does. A lot of bathing in my head
• 48:29
  while. I'm eating, I always get all her
• 48:31
  food, which is great for me because I love leftovers.
• 48:34
  Have you seen that little video thing that's kind of trending on
• 48:36
  Instagram with dudes posting videos or or women posting
• 48:42
  videos of eating with their husbands and trying to keep up
• 48:44
  with their pace? No, I love it though.
• 48:46
  It's comedy. Really.
• 48:48
  Yeah, because like, she'll bring, she'll bust out a burger
• 48:51
  and fries and a drink or whatever.
• 48:53
  And the whole gag is she's got her phone going and it says
• 48:56
  trying to eat at my husband's pace.
• 48:58
  And they're like, all right, baby, you know, enjoy.
• 48:59
  And the dudes are just boob get down.
• 49:02
  And she's like, yeah, go and bite for bite.
• 49:06
  And she got a whole mouth and dudes are and he's already
• 49:09
  bombed. He said.
• 49:09
  He's like, Oh my God. And she's trying to keep up.
• 49:12
  And then he's taking down some fries and swish and then checks
• 49:15
  her out. Like, wow.
• 49:16
  Like then the dudes impressed that she's keeping up, you know?
• 49:20
  But it doesn't take very long. They just have to.
• 49:23
  Do. It it's, it's I saw like three
• 49:25
  of them when I was rabbit hole. And so I think it's rabbit hole.
• 49:30
  It's hilarious, but yeah, dudes don't care.
• 49:34
  We're just down in the Hatch. Watch out.
• 49:36
  I love that. I like when just like random
• 49:39
  trends or like challenges go crazy like that, you know?
• 49:44
  Yeah. Me too.
• 49:45
  It's a different time. Sit there on your phone and be
• 49:48
  entertained. Yeah, it's.
• 49:49
  Crazy. Yeah.
• 49:50
  I'm still of the generation that was, you know, I've lived my
• 49:54
  entire life until I was probably, I don't know, 25 until
• 49:58
  I had cell phones. We were.
• 50:01
  I didn't. How old were you?
• 50:03
  When I got a cell phone, I was How old am I right now?
• 50:06
  31 yeah, while you're younger. So we didn't get phones, cell
• 50:10
  phones. We had pagers, right?
• 50:11
  So we didn't get cell phones like our senior year of high
• 50:13
  school. Yeah.
• 50:14
  And even then, so we didn't get like social 38.
• 50:17
  Oh, OK. I didn't think.
• 50:18
  We got like the like the cell phone, like the little ones,
• 50:20
  like the T9, right? Already get text like that.
• 50:22
  Oh yeah, T9's legendary. Yeah.
• 50:25
  So we like, you know, the flip phones and that stuff, you know.
• 50:27
  So what are our high school graduation years?
• 50:29
  What's yours? 040. 409. 11.
• 50:34
  Damn 88 cougar. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:37
  You like that he's. A young child to me over here,
• 50:41
  sometimes it's like having a child, but.
• 50:43
  I really think though, I talk about that like generational
• 50:46
  thing a lot. Is anyone born much after me?
• 50:52
  Like pretty much had a cell phone their entire life and the
• 50:55
  Internet their entire? Life and their infancy they were
• 50:58
  playing with the iPads and. Touchscreens I didn't even get.
• 51:02
  A flip phone till 8th grade and then like the phones that do
• 51:05
  what they do now was way later. And then where I lived, you
• 51:10
  know, we had dial up and antenna TV.
• 51:13
  So like, I wasn't really thrown to the wolves until way, way
• 51:17
  later and the technology wasn't there.
• 51:19
  A Nokia block, you know, like the, it was like the mini
• 51:23
  version, the first mini version of like the normal block, like
• 51:27
  phones, this big, big Gray block.
• 51:32
  I had that first, then I felt super cool when I got the razor.
• 51:37
  When the first flip phones came out I was thinking I was in like
• 51:40
  11th grade by. The next house.
• 51:42
  I did Oh my favorite phone Milwaukee walk and talk.
• 51:46
  I never had one. But.
• 51:51
  My mom had a black and yellow one and eventually she gave it
• 51:55
  to me. That was my favorite phone.
• 51:56
  You could throw that thing across the house, hit a wall and
• 51:58
  it wouldn't break. You know what's even crazier
• 52:00
  though, to talk about people's generations is not necessarily
• 52:03
  the phones, but the music. The way in which you listen to
• 52:06
  your music. Because I was my generation was
• 52:09
  coming up with cassettes, but all of my uncle's dad, older
• 52:14
  brothers, even in some cases they were still rocking 8 tracks
• 52:18
  and then CDs came out. But that was my.
• 52:21
  So to your. Point this tapes and.
• 52:22
  CDs I used to make tapes. We'd make yeah mixtapes.
• 52:27
  Yeah, yeah. But now like you were saying
• 52:30
  though the people born after you they will only know digital
• 52:33
  music which is because our music used to be portable and when
• 52:38
  they album release. I mean.
• 52:42
  You didn't go to your phone and whatever you had to go line up.
• 52:46
  If you were that stoked on you had to go there on the day it
• 52:49
  was getting, Yeah. What was it?
• 52:51
  I don't think. They're in Walmart.
• 52:52
  FYE or F? FYE is that what?
• 52:55
  Tower. Records Tower.
• 52:56
  Records Tower. Records at one at sports.
• 52:58
  The case in point, my kids in the hospital and they only have
• 53:03
  cable and he's just all bent out of shape because there's all
• 53:06
  these commercials and stuff and he's like, I want to watch Star
• 53:08
  Trek. I'm like, it doesn't work like
• 53:10
  that. This is what it's like.
• 53:11
  You have to. Watch What's On.
• 53:12
  You watch what's on? That's why when there was three
• 53:17
  networks and there was only three things on, you'd come to
• 53:20
  school or work the next day and you'd talk about, hey, did you
• 53:23
  catch Seinfeld last night? Which did make stuff more of an
• 53:25
  event because it's like, if you want to watch That 70s Show, the
• 53:28
  new episode, you got to watch Wednesday at 8:00 PM and.
• 53:32
  Then I watched. 16. Of them in a night?
• 53:34
  Exactly. But it was uniting people, too.
• 53:37
  You had common conversations around the water cooler or when
• 53:40
  you hung out. You talked about things because
• 53:42
  there was less choice. So there was, I don't know, I
• 53:46
  mean, there's a trade off, right?
• 53:48
  There's more individuality now, but less than.
• 53:51
  But we all had that in common. So yeah.
• 53:54
  It is interesting like it's. Amazing change in our.
• 53:58
  Streaming in America, streaming has been a a crazy one and I
• 54:03
  think like you're almost starting to see the loop like
• 54:06
  come back to the water court conversation type stuff because
• 54:11
  now you see Netflix doing the Tom Brady roast live.
• 54:14
  They're about to do the Tyson Paul fight live.
• 54:17
  You know they're trying to get an.
• 54:18
  MLB or an NFL break the series into two so like you'll have
• 54:24
  they release the whole like half at once so you can still binge
• 54:28
  watch. It's not like a weekly thing
• 54:30
  like used to be like sit down and watch like Desperate
• 54:33
  Housewives is on this Sunday. But then you'll get like a
• 54:36
  Christmas break and then the second-half of the season comes
• 54:40
  out. Back in the day, if you wanted
• 54:43
  to binge watch, you'd have to go with a shoe box full of videos
• 54:45
  from your buddy's house. You know, watch.
• 54:47
  The whole season like crusty demons of dirt and stuff you'd
• 54:50
  be sharing. The VHS is where my parents have
• 54:53
  videos. To wear that?
• 54:54
  Oh, no way. Really.
• 54:55
  So we had a video story? Yeah.
• 54:56
  It was great until Blockbuster came here.
• 54:57
  Blockbuster kicked my. Death, yeah.
• 54:59
  He was born. But then he had like.
• 55:02
  A couple of them. Because digital media became a
• 55:05
  thing. Bought by Netflix like pretty
• 55:08
  early or something. You don't remember Netflix?
• 55:10
  You used to order DVD's. That's right.
• 55:14
  You would go or you could go to the gas station they have.
• 55:16
  A Netflix. Oh.
• 55:17
  My God, red box. Still there, still there.
• 55:22
  Yeah. I have a DVD player in my
• 55:27
  trailer. It's a brand new trailer I went
• 55:29
  to. We, we, we go down to the thrift
• 55:32
  shop and I buy all the DVS you get for like a buck apiece.
• 55:35
  So I got a whole plethora of this old 90s movies for the kids
• 55:38
  and they play DVDs in the trailer.
• 55:40
  Sick, You know, one time when those portable DVD players were
• 55:43
  coming out that you could strap on the back of a car seat.
• 55:46
  Yeah, I was, I was at, I was a firefighter in Bay Park Station
• 55:50
  and we had this old Krusty captain.
• 55:52
  I'm like, yeah, he's like, what'd you do yesterday?
• 55:54
  I said, Oh, my wife and I went to some place, Best Buy or
• 55:58
  something to go look for one of those portable DVD players for,
• 56:01
  you know, for our car, for our kids.
• 56:03
  He goes, damn, man, why would you want to do that?
• 56:06
  He goes, I said, well, you know, Rd. trips and stuff.
• 56:08
  My kids can play their favorite movies and he goes, Chuck,
• 56:10
  you're missing it, man. He said on a road trip, your
• 56:14
  kids are a captive audience. You don't want to entertain them
• 56:18
  with that. You would have talked to and
• 56:20
  preached to be like school them. They're captive audience.
• 56:23
  OK, that's another way of looking at it for little
• 56:27
  prisoners in the back seat. That are cornered, they can't go
• 56:31
  anywhere even. There there's a trade off,
• 56:32
  right? It's now a parent which I never
• 56:36
  could do this, but parent can just toss a cell phone to a kid,
• 56:39
  pull up an app or whatever again and the kids gone the.
• 56:42
  Kid knows how to get in an iPhone before they can even
• 56:46
  walk. It's nuts.
• 56:48
  Actual babies. I'm not talking toddlers.
• 56:51
  Babies before they can say words can open, can learn to swipe
• 56:55
  your iPhone open. Crazy.
• 56:58
  As thought even I have walked up to screens before and went like
• 57:01
  this on it. You know, it tapped it and I've
• 57:03
  had people laugh, go, that's. My parents do it all the time on
• 57:06
  my because my dad she gets so. Used to that now, yeah.
• 57:09
  You know, what's interesting is that Claudia was a preschool
• 57:12
  teacher and she that had been in that business for a long time.
• 57:16
  And the people that she worked with had been preschool teachers
• 57:19
  for decades. And they literally in real time,
• 57:23
  they noticed the loss of manual dexterity by the next generation
• 57:28
  because of swiping and touching and everything.
• 57:31
  And it's literally, they see the actual lack of development
• 57:36
  because think about what people in my generation were doing.
• 57:39
  We were doing building blocks and all this crap.
• 57:41
  If we evolved. We thought it was just keeping
• 57:44
  us. Busy or useless finger at this
• 57:45
  point, Yeah, we. Thought other than the shelf or
• 57:48
  your. Yeah, to hold your phone in your
• 57:50
  hand, yeah. You would think that it was just
• 57:52
  to keep us entertained, but it was actually teaching us manual
• 57:55
  dexterity and, you know, hand eye coordination.
• 57:58
  And so, like, you wonder about surgeons in the next 15 to 20
• 58:02
  years when these kids who've never had that, never developed
• 58:06
  that manual dexterity, it's going to be something.
• 58:08
  Well, by then all surgeries will be just.
• 58:10
  Yeah, might be. Robotic and robotic and.
• 58:13
  That's what they said 5G was going to be like.
• 58:15
  The great the change a lot with surgeries because doctors could
• 58:19
  be in like New York doing work on someone in LA and it's like
• 58:23
  there's zero delay from. My brother-in-law is a surgeon
• 58:27
  and his son's a doctor now. He but he got him into radiology
• 58:31
  because he wanted to do surgery and he said, you know, I'm not
• 58:33
  sure that you have the dexterity for it.
• 58:35
  So I really would encourage you to go another route so.
• 58:39
  At least you heard it then. Then getting into school and
• 58:41
  they. Yeah, heard it from YEAH as
• 58:44
  being unsuccessful, but yeah. What a great convo.
• 58:48
  Yeah, I love it. You know what's funny?
• 58:50
  Is it over? There by him also.
• 58:52
  Me being a firefighter and a paramedic and my brother-in-law
• 58:55
  being a surgeon, every time we get together we talk about stuff
• 58:57
  and cases or whatever. And I'd say like, Alex, how was
• 59:01
  your day at work today? And he's like, oh, I had a
• 59:03
  pretty interesting case. I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess I
• 59:05
  had an oncology case where a person had esophageal cancer.
• 59:08
  So I took out his esophagus. Then I dissected a section of
• 59:10
  his intestine and I replaced his.
• 59:12
  I'm like, holy crap, I started IV.
• 59:17
  It's mind blowing the the stuff that I can do.
• 59:20
  Yeah, over here, like I wrote a press release today and I got
• 59:25
  some some visitors around for a door.
• 59:27
  Yeah. Well, but.
• 59:32
  His kid loves shooting the bow. He does.
• 59:34
  He came to a shoot. That's right.
• 59:36
  Oh, we got. Him a new shirt too.
• 59:38
  Oh, you did? Yeah.
• 59:39
  Let's go. You know he Oh, that's the shirt
• 59:40
  that Claudia. Bought.
• 59:41
  Yeah, we want to get him an accu bow.
• 59:43
  You guys ever use one of? Those I have seen.
• 59:45
  I've seen him, I've never. I've never used one but he is
• 59:49
  down in Mexico City. Cool.
• 59:52
  I. Think he's been living in Mexico
• 59:54
  City and he's kind of stuck to a room that he's renting at a
• 59:56
  house. It's the one you can put the
• 59:58
  like your phone on. Your cell phone or you can put
• 1:00:00
  it on your TV and you can you can shoot, you can target shoot
• 1:00:04
  in his room. And so we, Claudia and I
• 1:00:05
  thought, well, he's got a four year residency.
• 1:00:07
  Like get him an Acubo and that way he can at least plank.
• 1:00:11
  And again, you know, animals do with draw cycles and whatnot,
• 1:00:14
  yeah. Yeah, he gets into it.
• 1:00:16
  That's right. And he came out of this shoot.
• 1:00:18
  We shot with him at Balboa, at Scott and then we had him to.
• 1:00:20
  We kept on the tap room after because it was your birthday.
• 1:00:23
  I think that's right. Was it your birthday?
• 1:00:24
  Yeah, I think it was, yeah. Classic, classic.
• 1:00:28
  Tap. Room.
• 1:00:29
  Well, I appreciate everyone coming on here.
• 1:00:32
  I think we're about an hour in, which is where I cap out because
• 1:00:34
  the editing on these is not that fun.
• 1:00:36
  So past an hour I'm like, OK, we got to wrap it up, but any
• 1:00:40
  closing thoughts? BD Challenge 2 and should people
• 1:00:44
  come to three any any closing pieces?
• 1:00:46
  I have a personal closing piece. Something I want to tell you is
• 1:00:49
  that when I went there and I walked those courses and I saw
• 1:00:53
  them, it was only at that moment that I realized how much work
• 1:00:58
  you guys put into that. And then I immediately felt like
• 1:01:01
  a terrible friend. So Claudia and I talked about
• 1:01:05
  this all the way home. We next year I'm all in.
• 1:01:10
  I want to come out and and help you guys.
• 1:01:12
  I want to do some heavy lifting for you.
• 1:01:13
  Claudia wants to hook up with you and get hooked in the to the
• 1:01:17
  booth and help you out with the T-shirt.
• 1:01:19
  Oh yeah, we got to talk offline about some merch options that
• 1:01:23
  Claudia knows about. Oh yeah, she does.
• 1:01:25
  Yeah. Yeah, I'm very interested.
• 1:01:27
  Yeah, I just can't. It it was amazing.
• 1:01:31
  It was great. And I thought again, from the
• 1:01:34
  bow hunter perspective, I got everything out of that shoot I
• 1:01:37
  wanted and an amazing weekend. Appreciate that brother.
• 1:01:40
  Same here. It was a lot of work but we got
• 1:01:43
  plans next year. A lot of people been wanting to
• 1:01:44
  volunteer, like, dude, let me out.
• 1:01:47
  So we got plans we don't want. We're going to basically set
• 1:01:50
  like a few dates where it's like a party.
• 1:01:52
  Right? Exactly.
• 1:01:52
  Yeah. And if people want to show up,
• 1:01:54
  bring your tools and we'll put you on stuff and just.
• 1:01:56
  And James is going to work on getting his hand out of the
• 1:01:59
  cookie jar. It's.
• 1:02:00
  Very hard for him. I did better this year, but you.
• 1:02:02
  Did you did, Yeah. Drew, you got any clothes and
• 1:02:05
  stuff? If I'm in town, I'll be shooting
• 1:02:08
  the shoot every year. Perfect.
• 1:02:10
  I can say it wasn't for Brianna. Nothing there would have
• 1:02:13
  happened. James, you're all right,
• 1:02:14
  Brianna. I mean, she really is the glue
• 1:02:16
  that holds this thing together. Logistics.
• 1:02:19
  So you guys both did good. I told him COO when he gets
• 1:02:23
  there. I just need a minimum.
• 1:02:24
  I won't say the number on camera.
• 1:02:26
  You know, for me to, to quit a daytime job, I'm perfectly fine
• 1:02:30
  being the, you know, glorified secretary, as you could say
• 1:02:34
  that's my job in real life anyways.
• 1:02:36
  So, but he'll get there. I know he will because he has
• 1:02:40
  the personality and the determination that some people
• 1:02:46
  do not have so. Yeah, I have.
• 1:02:48
  I have one of those gals for me, Yolanda, because James is like
• 1:02:52
  me. So we're like, oh, oh, yeah.
• 1:02:54
  But there's no like, she just keeps me like, organized, you
• 1:02:57
  know what I mean? Like, I have all these ideas and
• 1:02:58
  she gets it done. So she's like my doer.
• 1:03:00
  I'm like a visionary. There's a good book called
• 1:03:02
  Rocket Field. Read that book.
• 1:03:03
  I will read. It's called rocket field.
• 1:03:05
  So there's visionaries and there's integrators and you
• 1:03:07
  without an integrator, visionary is nothing, right?
• 1:03:09
  So you need someone to I'm. Not a visionary, I'm an
• 1:03:12
  integrator. It's where you cop out with the
• 1:03:14
  I'm an idea guy, but you never fulfill.
• 1:03:16
  Those you got to get a good, you got to get a good team around
• 1:03:18
  you. So that's why I think I've
• 1:03:19
  learned you get a good team around you.
• 1:03:20
  Read that book. I Will Rock you.
• 1:03:22
  I will read that Brianna's. You got any pieces you want to
• 1:03:26
  close with here? We're kind of doing a round
• 1:03:28
  table close. Don't pick up rattlesnakes,
• 1:03:32
  yeah? That's a good lesson.
• 1:03:34
  Good lesson point. Out It didn't happen.
• 1:03:36
  At the Yeah, I guess I'll just close with, you know, appreciate
• 1:03:42
  all you guys coming in being my friend, you know, all of you and
• 1:03:47
  the help and the advice and just the kind words.
• 1:03:51
  I think things went really smooth.
• 1:03:53
  Can't wait for next year. If you want to mark your
• 1:03:55
  calendars and you're watching this, you can mark it down for
• 1:03:58
  the third weekend of May. That's the weekend the shoots
• 1:04:02
  been on for it was the. Weekend before.
• 1:04:04
  Memorial The weekend before Memorial Day.
• 1:04:07
  It used to be called the Oak Valley Challenge, and then you
• 1:04:09
  turned it in. It's the third weekend.
• 1:04:12
  It's two weekend. Third weekend of May.
• 1:04:15
  Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 'cause
• 1:04:16
  Memorial Day is I, I won't confuse you.
• 1:04:19
  Third weekend. Third weekend of May and
• 1:04:22
  Henshaw's had that shoot forever.
• 1:04:23
  For like the last 20 years it was called the Oak Valley
• 1:04:26
  Challenge. The last two years has been
• 1:04:27
  called the Motorcycles Challenge.
• 1:04:28
  We're going to keep that thing rolling and we look forward to
• 1:04:31
  seeing you there. Tickets probably go for sale
• 1:04:33
  probably February 1st and we're it'll be bigger and better and I
• 1:04:39
  enjoy it and I can't wait to see it from there.
• 1:04:40
  Can't have fun? Bring your family.
• 1:04:43
  Yep, and get more prepared shooting your bow so you can be
• 1:04:46
  oh kids course kids course was. Incredible.
• 1:04:49
  I had to twist some arms. Did your?
• 1:04:52
  Did your? I had to twist some arms bring
• 1:04:54
  my kids course my. Little kid shot it, had a blast.
• 1:04:57
  He was pissed off because he he went like 9:50, but he wasn't
• 1:05:02
  using the sharp ones because I don't like to use the sharp ones
• 1:05:04
  because he's a little bit of a psycho.
• 1:05:06
  So he kept bouncing, but he's all mad because I think I posted
• 1:05:08
  it right? He hit him.
• 1:05:09
  He was like, I missed. I'm like, oh, you hit him but
• 1:05:11
  bounced. But my 10 year old did the big
• 1:05:13
  courses with us and we just walk him out because the courses are
• 1:05:16
  there's such good lines to the target.
• 1:05:18
  So we were able to get him to shoot like on the with the
• 1:05:22
  Bonerho Shop course, you had to shoot 30 yards, you know, 20-30
• 1:05:25
  yards and just you would be able to shoot it.
• 1:05:26
  So you shot the whole thing with it.
• 1:05:27
  It was a. Great time.
• 1:05:28
  Awesome. Awesome.
• 1:05:29
  So yeah, family event for sure. People brought little tiny kids,
• 1:05:33
  people brought their grandparents, people brought
• 1:05:35
  their parents. Like it was full age range and
• 1:05:39
  just people having fun vibe. And I always say that like a lot
• 1:05:42
  of shoots, you shoot and you go home this you shoot and you hang
• 1:05:46
  out with people, make new friends, make new business
• 1:05:49
  connections, just meet people that do the same thing you do
• 1:05:52
  and have a great time. So we'll see you guys next year.
• 1:05:55
  Thanks to Drew from Tricer for coming on, Brianna, the CEO for
• 1:06:00
  coming on. I don't.
• 1:06:01
  Even know what CEO actually chance.
• 1:06:03
  For operating officer. Yeah, that's a perfect.
• 1:06:06
  And Chief Adams for coming on. Yes, yes.
• 1:06:09
  So thank you guys and we'll see you in the next podcast seven
• 1:06:13
  months from now. So I hope you enjoy subscribing
• 1:06:16
  to the channel. We're trying to hit 1000 on the
• 1:06:18
  podcast channel because they're a lot of work and I would like
• 1:06:20
  if I made $10 per video. So.
• 1:06:23
  And that's it.