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Chuck in the Morning 9/24 H2: Vlad Guerrero Reaction, Softy & ABC's of the Mariners · Chuck in the Morning

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: All right, 7 o'clock hour here on this Thursday. Great
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: to have you with us. Hope you have a great
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Thursday out there. Anders Hurst is here. Travis Moger is here.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: My name is Chuck Powell, and we do have a
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: lot to do here today. We got our 12th man roundtable,
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: second one of the season from 8 to 9 today.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: So Greg Bell will not be joining us at 7.05
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: because we're going to steal an hour of his life.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: This morning from 8 to 9 with he and Hugh Millen,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: our insider, our QB1 top analyst, breaking it down for you.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: Some Seahawks talk from 8 to 9 here. It's a
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: tradition in the mornings on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Also,
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: Softie will be joining us. We staggered the time because
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: he's a really big deal.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: You know, we cater.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Things around the face of our franchise. David Softie Mahler.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: So it's 725. Because he needs that extra five minutes
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: of sleep every Thursday. He'll be joining us here today
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: on the radio program Thursdays with Softie.
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  Speaker 2: We look forward to it every stinking week. But let's
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  Speaker 2: get to your headlines first.
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  Speaker 1: They are brought to you by Frost Brewed Coors Light
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: Cold as the Rockies, the Mariners, held on to their
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: ever so slight playoff chances last night. They won over
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: the Houston Astros and The Texas Rangers lost. So they
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: went in with five games to go, five games out.
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  Speaker 1: And they survived the scenarios that would have eliminated them.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: And so they go into tonight four games out with
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: four games to go, all against the Angels who come
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: into town. Grayson Rodriguez will get the start for the
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: Angels tonight at 640. He'll be going up against Brian Wu.
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: That is your pitching matchup. That might be at 7 o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: I also don't care about whether or not the Kraken
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: are playing at home or on the road in their
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: preseason hockey game tonight. It was pointed out to me
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: that I gave out misinformation. They have played a home
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: preseason game. But I'll be honest with you. I know
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: we're the flagship. Hockey shouldn't have preseason.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: It's dumb.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: All right, 640 on 950 tonight, Kraken versus Calgary. Sounders
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: won their first MLS match since May 13th. That seems impossible.
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  Speaker 1: And with the win, they're in playoff position.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, that seems crazier to me than the Mariners pulling
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  Speaker 1: it off and winning the division.
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  Speaker 2: Those scenarios that we were talking about?
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  Speaker 1: It seems crazier to me that a team can go
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  Speaker 1: four months without a win.
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  Speaker 2: Not a home win or a road win. Four months
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  Speaker 2: and a week without a victory.
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  Speaker 1: And be in playoff position than it does that the Mariners,
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  Speaker 1: four games out with four games to go, could somehow
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: get the Rangers to lose every game, Astros lose every game,
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: and they win every game. That Sounders scenario seems more
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  Speaker 1: crazy to me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, a couple of factors at play. Number one,
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  Speaker 4: you had a really good start to the season. Number two,
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  Speaker 4: you had almost a two-month break from playing any games
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  Speaker 4: because of the World Cup. And then number three, you
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  Speaker 4: had like six draws in a row, so you still
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  Speaker 4: got points from that. So all those putting together means
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  Speaker 4: you can go– What, three months, four months of not
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  Speaker 4: winning and still being a playoff spot.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, crazy.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: College football, UW-Minnesota. It's the night game, 8 o'clock at
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: Husky Stadium. Softy will join us to talk about that
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit. College football's week four. It is
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: a doozy. The Thursday night football game tonight is Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Versus Green Bay. Michael Penix Jr.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: Making his first start of the season for the Atlanta Falcons. And,
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: of course, the Seahawks will be taking on the Commanders
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. Sam Darnold did practice yesterday, took every single rep,
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: it sounds like, as the starting quarterback. And I would suspect,
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: I would prepare that Sam Darnold will be back under
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  Speaker 1: center this Sunday against the Washington Commanders.
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  Speaker 2: At least that's the way it is looking. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about that and.
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  Speaker 1: Many other things with our experts at 8 o'clock with
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  Speaker 1: the 12th man podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Round table. All right.
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• 4:55
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  Speaker 2: All right, I want.
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  Speaker 1: To talk about something today. I thought this was one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest stories that emerged yesterday in the sports world.
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  Speaker 1: And I certainly thought about Anders and the podcast that
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: we've done. We do an off-season podcast called Stove. And
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: I thought about the Seattle Mariners fan base. many of
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: which have spent my 11 years here in Seattle just
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  Speaker 1: sure that the Mariners don't spend enough money.
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  Speaker 2: And I agree with you. I want them to spend
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  Speaker 2: more money.
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  Speaker 1: But as Anders and I have discussed over the years,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that their biggest problem this season or
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  Speaker 1: in any of the past few seasons has been their
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  Speaker 1: thrifty spending habits. I think they've put together teams that
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: were good enough to make the playoffs every single year,
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  Speaker 1: the last five seasons, including this one, and they have
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  Speaker 1: not executed.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'd love for them to spend.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love for them to surprise me and land some
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  Speaker 1: awesome free agent.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe they spent the money on that. What
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  Speaker 2: a pleasant surprise. But I'm done. Not only do I
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  Speaker 2: not count on it.
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  Speaker 1: I pretty much just block it out of my off-season
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  Speaker 1: preparations for the Seattle Mariners.
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  Speaker 2: And John Stanton takes the approach, and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Think it's a dumb approach. A lot of people drives
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  Speaker 1: them mad. Free agency, you fail a lot more than
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  Speaker 1: you succeed in today's age, overspending for guys that you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to pay.
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  Speaker 2: You have to, the way that.
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  Speaker 1: The structure is set up, and it might change this
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  Speaker 1: offseason with a new collective bargaining agreement, but if you
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: want one of the big free agents, you are signing
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  Speaker 1: up for, we're going to pay this guy for nothing.
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  Speaker 2: For half of this contract.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: He's going to be too old to contribute, and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be paying him over market value And it's
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  Speaker 1: going to suck. Like, for the back end of his contract,
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox are going to have to pay
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: Trevor Story, who looks washed, $ 30 million for a couple
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  Speaker 1: more years. Marcus Simeon is still making $ 25, $ 30 million,
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  Speaker 1: and he was one of the worst players in baseball
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  Speaker 1: this year for the New York Mets.
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  Speaker 2: Trey Turner's still decent, though.
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  Speaker 1: He's not what he was, but they owe him like
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  Speaker 1: five more years. He's going to be terrible under that contract.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's unavoidable. He's clearly on the decline. There's
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  Speaker 1: no question about that. But the point is, and John
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  Speaker 1: Stanton makes the point, and I don't think it's insane
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  Speaker 1: like other people do. I don't want to sign veteran
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  Speaker 1: free agents to long-term contracts over the age of 30.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to pay those guys. money when they're
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  Speaker 1: not contributing to my baseball team. If other people want
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: to do it, they can do it, but that's not
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  Speaker 1: how I want to do it. And that's why they
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: get ahead of the Julio and the cows and they
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: want the Colt Emerson signings. And even the Evan White
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  Speaker 1: one that blew up in their face, that's the kind
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  Speaker 1: of deal that John wants to do.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to pay his players in the prime.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: And so this has been obviously a bone of contention
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of Mariner fans for a.
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  Speaker 2: But if you didn't get an.
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  Speaker 1: Example of buyer beware when it comes to Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball free agency yesterday, I don't know what to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Was interviewed yesterday, or at least the audio made it,
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  Speaker 1: was made public yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it was a Graham Bensinger situation.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Was he interviewed by Ben Singer? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: But he said in.
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  Speaker 1: The interview that he's not worried about the disappointing year
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  Speaker 1: he had this year, where he had one home run
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  Speaker 1: at home this entire season for a team that fell
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  Speaker 1: desperately short of their expectations. He said, because the contract
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  Speaker 1: that I got was paying me for everything I did
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  Speaker 1: when I wasn't making money.
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  Speaker 2: That's what that money's for.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously the story has blown up because that is
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  Speaker 1: pure selfish insanity right there. And if that isn't a
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  Speaker 1: buyer beware moment for everybody that just wants to spend, spend,
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  Speaker 1: spend on veteran free agents and have a $ 500 million payroll,
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  Speaker 1: which the Mariners are never going to agree to do
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  Speaker 1: under the current rules, then I don't know what is.
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  Speaker 1: The idea that anybody, any veteran player, and I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them feel this way, that enters their
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  Speaker 1: mind that I don't have to stay on top of
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  Speaker 1: my game because you owe me for all that great
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  Speaker 1: baseball that I played for you when you weren't paying
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  Speaker 1: me that much. Why would anybody want a free agent
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  Speaker 1: ever again? Why would anybody want to spend that kind
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  Speaker 1: of crazy coin on somebody that might have the mindset of,
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  Speaker 1: I've already done.
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  Speaker 2: Enough to earn this money. I don't have to do
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  Speaker 2: anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you are going to occupy $ 40, $ 50 million of
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  Speaker 1: this team's payroll for the next few seasons, and they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to be able to do the things around
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: you that they would have done had they not signed you.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: And now you're saying, I'm just going to be a
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: financial anchor, and I don't have any responsibility for living
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  Speaker 1: up to what they're going to pay me in the
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  Speaker 1: future because I was underpaid for everything I did before.
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  Speaker 1: It's the argument of, if I'm going to sign you
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  Speaker 1: a free agent, I need to sign you for what
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  Speaker 1: you're going to give me. And it's even more exaggerated, Anders,
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  Speaker 1: from somebody that changes teams.
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  Speaker 2: Because, yeah, he did contribute for the Blue Jays. He
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  Speaker 2: did give the Blue Jays a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But Albert Pujols, who got paid for what he did
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  Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, destroyed the Angels. And so I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why people are so fired up to have free
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  Speaker 1: agents and risk having a mentality like this, being a
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  Speaker 1: succubus to your payroll for the next few seasons. Because
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  Speaker 1: right now, if I'm a Blue Jay fan, I'm like, oh, crap.
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  Speaker 1: He's got that mindset. We still have to pay him
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, because there are guaranteed contracts in this sport.
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  Speaker 2: We're screwed. That's what I would be thinking right now
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  Speaker 2: if I was a.
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  Speaker 3: Blue Jays fan.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the weird thing is this argument on
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  Speaker 4: his side of things, Vladimir Guerrero saying that it's for
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  Speaker 4: past performance, not future results. would make a little more
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: sense if he was a little older and he was
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: past his prime, he's still 27.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Like, dude.
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  Speaker 1: So what's he going to be like at 32 still
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  Speaker 1: making the same money if he already has that mindset?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And I kind of took it a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 4: I obviously didn't take it as, oh, I don't have
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  Speaker 4: to perform well because what I got paid for was.
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  Speaker 2: For the past, what I've already done.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's just saying, look, I don't have to
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: live up to that money, so to speak, with my
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: current performance, which is still a wrong way to think
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 4: And that doesn't mean I won't be playing well in
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: the future, but you don't put... The money that is
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  Speaker 4: attached to me now to what I'm doing now, you
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  Speaker 4: put it to what I was doing before, which again
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  Speaker 4: goes to your point of why would anyone pay any
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  Speaker 4: free agent now?
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  Speaker 2: Buyer beware.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: It makes John Stanton's strategy make a little more sense
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  Speaker 1: even to the– biggest Stanton Mariners ownership hater that there
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: is alive out there because I don't think he's alone.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Chris Bryant certainly was that way.
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  Speaker 2: He got the money.
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  Speaker 1: He got his free agent money from the Colorado Rockies
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  Speaker 1: and was like, man, I'm not feeling like playing anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Naylor.
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  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm worried about Josh Naylor here on the local front.
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  Speaker 1: Did he get his money and decide, oh, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I got my money.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Is he going to fight as hard? He certainly didn't
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: fight as hard this year as we watched him fight as.
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  Speaker 2: A Mariner a year ago. Absolutely not.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: It's a bigger discussion for later down the road, but
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't want the show to go by without mentioning
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: a really big topic from the sports world yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: That says a lot.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Those words said a lot, and they resonate throughout baseball.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question about it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, Softee joins us, plus we'll
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: play some Factor Fiction.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, who's not a Joe Jackson fan, man? Come on.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: Name another Joe Jackson song besides Steppin' Out. Can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: One hit wonder. Anders, be honest with us. Had you
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: ever heard of this song before you heard it?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: You need to expand your horizons, pal.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to work on that. We're going to work
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  Speaker 2: on that over time. So don't worry. I'm in charge.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: I'm going to work on that. A little culture here, Chuck.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Let's get these whippersnappers a little culture.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: A lot of teachable moments.
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  Speaker 1: They need to know things like flock of seagulls, Joe Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: Howard Jones.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Those things need to be educated. Good morning, sir. How
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: are you?
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: I'm well. I really enjoy doing this. Favorite thing?
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  Speaker 2: I know.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Wake up in the morning?
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Gina was texting me last night.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Roll over?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for making David's day by putting him on
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: the air with you on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: So you're welcome.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Sub buttholes.
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  Speaker 3: Jeez. At least she talks to you, man. That's good.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Glad to know that she's talking to somebody.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: He needs a hobby outside of Sports Talk Radio, which
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: is going on other Sports Talk Radio shows.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: I was on with Paul Allen's show yesterday in Minneapolis,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: and we were talking about the Gophers and the Huskies. Yeah.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you know about the Gophers? Come on, man.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: They're the Vikings guy. What the hell are we talking
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Gophers for? Nobody cares about Gopher football in Minnesota. What
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: was the name of that coach? Remember the show Coach
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: back in the day?
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Hayden Fox.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, based in Minnesota, right? What was the name of
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: the team in Coach?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was Minnesota State. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right, that was it. Yeah, yeah. And there's no such
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: thing as Minnesota State, right?
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of what their nickname was. The Buttholes.
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  Speaker 2: Are you firing that or is Travis firing that?
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  Speaker 3: It's on me.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: You guys are a couple of Buttholes.
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  Speaker 3: I got this little funny game I like to play
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: with my wife. Not that kind of game. Okay. I say,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: give me a word to say when I go on
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: the air, honey, and she says buttholes. Oh, is that right?
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: So that's for her.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad she's enjoying that then.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, you're really laying it on fair.
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  Speaker 3: Using your radio show to satisfy my wife's needs. It
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: doesn't take much, obviously.
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  Speaker 5: The Minnesota State University Screaming Eagles.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Screaming Eagles. There you go.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Well, do you want to talk Mariners playoff baseball? No.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to talk Huskies?
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  Speaker 2: No, I want to know what you– Come on, man.
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  Speaker 1: What did you learn with Paul Allen about the Gophers?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: You had to learn something from that conversation.
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  Speaker 3: From him, nothing. From his producer, Eric Norquist, and from
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: his sideline reporter, Justin Gerd, who's going to be on
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: our pregame show on Saturday a lot. I mean, they–
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: They've got a defensive end in Anthony Smith who had
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  Speaker 3: 12.5 sacks a year ago. He's a beast. He's been
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: kind of tame so far the first three games of
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: the year. So I'm hoping he doesn't erupt on the
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Husky offensive line. And then they've got this Tracy kid,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: the wide receiver, Javon Tracy. I believe his name is.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: He had two punt returns for touchdowns in the first
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: game of the year. And he's a monster at wide receiver. So, look,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: so the Huskies win the game. Yeah, they're 10-point favorites now, right?
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, teams that travel two time zones or more
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: in the last nine games are 1-8 at Husky Stadium.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: And the only team that won was the number one
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: team in the country in Ohio State. They're 28-2 at
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: home in their last 30 games, losing to number six
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Oregon and number one Ohio State. So, these are games
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: that Washington, you know, historically, at least under a real coach,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Kalen DeBoer, Jed Fish, not a fake coach like Bob
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Gregory or Jimmy Lake, they've been winning. So that should
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: be the case on Saturday.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Did the producer say whether or not Darius Taylor was
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: going to start for them at running back?
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Going to try to play. That's the word. He's always
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: banged up. He's kind of like their C.J. Procise is
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: what they're saying. That's kind of his deal out there.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: But the word is that he's going to try and
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: make a go of it on Saturday night, but Who knows?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: The guy's always hurt, is what I was told.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Is this the first pocket quarterback that the Huskies have
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: faced in 35 years? Feels like it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: And he's a top-five guy, and he's a top-five prospect.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: There's Drake Lindsey. What is he, 6'5, 230? I mean,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: he's a big guy, and he's got a cannon for
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: an arm. So I don't know, but I think you're
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: relying on a defense that has been pretty good in
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the first three games of the year. But let's face it,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: they've been doing what you thought they would do because
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: they're playing nobody. I mean, how much do you really
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: take from the Eastern game? To me, not much. How
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: much do you take from the Utah State game and
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: the Wazoo game? More concerns, I think, than positives. And Chuck,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I was looking this up yesterday that, you know, DeMond
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Williams numbers are actually pretty similar to where they were
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: a year ago after three games. You know what the
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: difference is after the first three games of the non-conference season?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: The difference is Jonah Coleman's not here and doesn't have
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: 500 yards and 10 touchdowns. That's the difference. I mean,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: last year he was on fire. Remember we were talking
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: about Jonah Coleman being in the Heisman race after the
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: first three games of the year. And then he kind
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: of just went away. I mean, he had the knee injury.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I know that. But he was never the same after
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: the non-conference. He had 500 all-purpose yards, 10 total touchdowns.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: And he was a beast. And there's nobody like that
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: right now on this football team. So who knows? Will
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: it be Brian Bonner? Maybe. I mean, I got a
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: feeling that if it's not Brian Bonner, they're going to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: be in trouble.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's the guy with the highest ceiling of
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: all the three running backs that are playing right now.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: And Des Roebuck, hopefully he bounces back and did bounce
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: back a little bit against Eastern and got rid of
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: the drop sees. You know, Rasheed Williams certainly has the
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: body type. Jordan Clay, Chris Lawson. There's guys that you like, but,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you know, there's no there's no history on their side
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: with any of these guys so far. The running game
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: might be difficult to get fixed in time. I don't
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: know if we're going to have a running game against
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: the Gophers this week. but the bad penalties, that's something
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: that there's no excuse not to get cleaned up, right? Yeah, well,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: did you guys hear the Ryan Walters clip from the
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: press conference yesterday? I read the comments. I'll tell you
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: what I'll do. I'll send it to your producer, all right?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: And then Andrews can make the executive decision on whether
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: or not you want to play it. But it's pretty
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: good stuff. I mean, this is a guy who was
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: a former head coach at Purdue. And his basic quote
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: was that, you know, you don't want to have the
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: label of being undisciplined, and right now we reek of it,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: is what Ryan Walters said. And he's exactly right. They smell,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: they stink of undisciplined. I mean, they've got nine personal
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: fouls and unsportsmanlike penalties in the first three games of
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the year. Eight of them are on the defense, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: two of them happened on one play against Eastern, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: two guys got ejected in X-Ray Alexander and Jacob Lane. So, yeah,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, how, look, you can kind of get away
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: with that when you're playing the nobodies in the first
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: three weeks of the year, but how much would it
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: stink if you go to USC and you're in a
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: tight game next Saturday, you lose the game because somebody
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: decides to start popping their mouth off or hit a
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: guy 10 yards out of bounds. So, yeah, this has
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: got to stop, man. Terrible.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you wear your emotions on your sleeve. We love
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that about you.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: And you're a sports talk show host that always has
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: a definitive opinion. Usually, I think what I've read from you,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you either feel really great or not good at all
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: going into Huskies games. Is this one that's in the middle?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Is this one of the rare I'm.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Not sure how to feel kind of games for you?
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of. I mean, look, I mean, I think
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Washington at their best should win the game. Minnesota is
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: the team flying out here playing at 10 o'clock at
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: night their time.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: So there should be an advantage there for Minnesota. I mean,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: they're coming out Friday, not Thursday. They're going to be
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: arriving tomorrow. So they'll have all day, you know, Saturday
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: to get acclimated and all that. And P.J. Fleck is
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: saying all the right things. Who was the knucklehead Mel
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Tucker for Michigan State when they came out here in 2022?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: He was acting like the Spartans were going to Mars
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: and it cost him big time. in that game so
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you know pj fleck isn't doing that so yeah i'm
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: kind of i'm kind of that way about the whole
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: season to be honest with you i mean i don't
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: know where this thing's gonna go you know the over
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: under was seven and a half in vegas dick and
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: i have talked about it i think if you had
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: to reset i would probably take the under right now
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: i mean is it more likely you see a A
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: 5-4 team, or is it more likely you see a
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: 4-5 team in the Big Ten? That's the question.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: P.J.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Fleck's well-groomed. He's, like, well-dressed.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Well, apparently, yeah, he's got, like, the 1950s hardware store
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: vest and tie on, you know? And then Petros was
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: saying yesterday on the air with us that the last
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Minnesota game he did, he saw P.J. Fleck doing a
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: chest bump with his wife on the sideline during the
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: game after they scored.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: What?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: You imagine Jed Fish calling Amber over after we score
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: a touchdown.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, babe, got a who?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: How's it going on? It's just that old Midwestern vibe, man.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: They do things different.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Some couples chest bump, and some couples have their husbands
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: say buttholes as many times on the air as they
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: possibly can.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: That's just the way it works.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: It's love.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: It's called love. There's no explaining it. There's no defining it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: You know, really, it's just a talent that not a
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: lot of people have. And this is me, by the way,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: trying to find that drop in there.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: He is a genuine butthole. All right, so you get
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: to sleep in Saturday. Yeah, 4 o'clock start time, right,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: with the honks on Saturday?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: 4 o'clock start time on Saturday. I got some time
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: to burn on Saturday morning. I don't know if the
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: weather's not miserable. Maybe hit the links for a little bit.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I like the Saturday night games, and I love the
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Friday games. I know I'm in the extreme minority, but
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I love the Friday games. I would play every Husky
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: game on a Friday.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: If I could. You don't care about the kids?
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Every single one. You don't care about high school football?
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I don't have any kids. What do I give a damn?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Little bastards. It's all about me. I mean, if I'm
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: doing the show, you may as well make it the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: game and be done with it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Open up the weekend.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You think Dick likes Friday games? He's not working. Jackson, too.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Those guys don't do anything. They don't do anything as
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: They don't contribute anything to society as far as I
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: can tell.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I totally agree.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure what the hell the point is.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Are you still believing in the Mariners at all?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: No, we never did. We never did. What do you
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: mean you never did?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Up until like two weeks ago you did.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I've been out for like a month at least. All right, man.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Chuck, you and I are the only real fans left.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you. We'll talk to you soon, all right?
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: All right, boys.
• 24:21
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  Speaker 1: All right, Travis got us going earlier this week on
• 25:00
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• 25:07
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I like the game, even though it's, you know, it's,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: it's tonight. I like it still.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Packers minus four and a
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  Speaker 5: half against the Falcons in green Bay.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Uh, the Falcons have looked awful so far.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: They have, they have Michael panics is returning.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: But he is not, he has not played a preseason snap.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: He is in a new offense. Uh, And the Falcons'
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: defense is pretty poor. I think the Packers can win
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: by five or more points.
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking the Packers minus four and a half.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Travis Moger saying, I'm not worried about those points. The
• 26:06
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  Speaker 1: to 49451. I think you're on the right side of it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: But I think the Packers have a lot of problems
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: right now, too. Their offensive line has been devastated. They
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: have no running back. I think they thought they could
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: piece it together without Josh Jacobs, and it has not worked.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: um and so they're not exactly flying high right now
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: but they're flying higher than the falcons.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah and i am a michael pennix believer so there's
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: a slight little part of my brain that's like he
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: could come in and make this offense look a whole
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: lot better than it has uh and can't look worse
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: yeah it can't look worse that's that's for sure bijan
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: robinson drake london like they have weapons obviously uh but
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: i do think that the packers are the better.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Team Man, there are a few quarterbacks in my life
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that have been more enjoyable to watch is when Michael.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Penix is on his game. Oh, so much fun.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And the way he just throws. Lefties somehow look better
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: than righties when they're in a rhythm. I don't know
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: what it is about that. I really hope he can
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: put it together.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Just not tonight.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Just not tonight.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Just not tonight.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: We need a fact or fiction pick. We need Travis
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  Speaker 2: to go too.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Or maybe he puts it together and the Packers win 40-30.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right, again, FACTA 49451. If you think the Packers
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• 28:47
  Speaker 1: left off the letter X. X is for X players.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: X players.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Bucky was one of them. Jay Buhner's one of them.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: They don't buy the radar gun that everybody's throwing 100.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And the guys that they faced only threw 92 to 94.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: They don't buy that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: As Anders laughs, I didn't bring it up for you
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to laugh at Jay Buhner and Bucky. OK, so they
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: don't they don't necessarily buy that. And then there are
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: fans of today's game that are enraged that there aren't
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: 300 hitters anymore and that they think that that's representative
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: of how crappy the game is today.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And that I disagree with Jay and Bucky. To a degree.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And I wholeheartedly disagree with the fan that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Feels that way.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And leave it to Joey Votto, who I heard described
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: as not only is he a interesting personality.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: He is the rare, unique personality.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And baseball fans need Joey Votto's analysis in our lives.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And I think he's going to end up becoming like
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the John Madden of baseball.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I really hope that's true.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so Joey Votto was on with Brian Kinney
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: yesterday talking about the 300 hitter and the lack of
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: 300 hitters here today. And he acknowledged as an ex-player, no, no, no,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I lived in the transition from the– You know, from
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the previous era to having to face guys that threw 100.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Every single guy that I faced threw 100.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And I lived in the era where they were introducing
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the uppercut, which everybody's realizing now was such a stupid decision.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Keeping the bat in the zone longer is the way
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to hit. And Bucky would have told you that. Jay
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Buhner would have told you that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: So he goes, I lived through that transition as well.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And everybody's just going to have to accept the fact
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that it is much harder to put the ball in
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: play today than what it once was because of not
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: just how many nasty pitchers there are throwing 100 with stuff,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: but because you don't get to face the same guy.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: From at-bat to at-bat, you're facing four different, three different guys,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: maybe not four, three different guys in one game with
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: nasty stuff.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: And you've got to adjust on the fly and look
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: at your.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And so he said, everybody's just going to accept the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: fact that we're not going to have 300 hitters for
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a while. You're going to have to adjust your thoughts.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Like a 270 hitter, you're going to have to applaud.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to start applauding the 270 hitter.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Because that's more equivalent to what a 300 hitter....
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Used to be. And 240 is not embarrassing. That's average.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: You know, that is a guy hitting 240 with 35
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: home runs is a guy that had a really good season.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So he said yesterday.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Everybody's just going to have to combine in kind of
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the two things. Fans need to stop grumbling that guys
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: aren't hitting over 300 because it's just not going to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: happen unless something else changes and things always change.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Ebbs and flows of things.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: They changed the mound size at one point, for goodness sake,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: because the batting champion the previous year, 301, was the
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: highest batting average.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: In the entire sport. So they might change things.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I don't put anything by Rob Manfred, but he's saying
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: under the way the game is played, the number of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: 100 mile per hour pitchers, the way that they change it,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the books that they have on hitters. And I mean,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: it's just such a hard thing to do. People just
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: need to adjust their expectations and accept that a 270
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: batting average is not a bad batting average, where once
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: upon a time.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: It might have been seen as mediocre. He says that's
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: an achievement now. Yeah, absolutely.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: And I think with every sport, the game progresses and
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: you get advantages on multiple sides. I think with baseball
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: the advantages that pitching has gotten has far outpaced the
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: advantages that hitting has gotten with the progression of the
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: game right whether it is the analytic side of things
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: which does favor pitchers more than it favors hitters whether
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: it is like you said the nasty stuff and everything
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: that that they're doing now and it's harder to to
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: get the batting average but the other thing is it's
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: not as valued as part of the game anymore as
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: much as it was before Hitting for contact is not
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: as heavily valued as it was 30 years ago.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think it is. They think they just don't
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: have as many guys that can do it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess. I would say the... The slugger and on-base.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: I think the Milwaukee.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Brewers prove that it's still something people seek and want
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and would like to have part of their team. But
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: just as a less universal. It's harder to do. It's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: just harder to put the ball in play. So finding
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: guys with that skill is harder to do. And as
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Brian Kenney pointed out yesterday, this is the problem with
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: cultivating hitters like Luis Arias.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Because the moment Luis Arai.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Starts hitting 280, teams aren't going to deem him valuable.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: He has to hit 315 because he doesn't hit for
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: power and he doesn't get a lot of doubles and triples.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Doesn't play defense either. And he doesn't play great defense.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: So he has to be able to maintain that 315
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: batting average.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: In order to stay in the game. So interesting conversation.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: We'll have a greater depth conversation about that at future times.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I do have to get the rest of the alphabet in,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: so I got to go quickly. Why is for year's end,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: we are nearing year's end. And I don't know if
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: it's going to happen Sunday night. I would imagine it'll
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: be Monday morning, but it does look like Dan Wilson
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: is going to be removed from his position. And that's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: not going to be an easy conversation for the Mariners organization,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: no matter how Many of you think that he should go,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm with you. It still doesn't make it easy
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to go to a Mariners legend and tell them, yeah,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you're done.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: You're done as manager.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: But that's going to happen either Sunday night or Monday morning,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: it sounds like.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And finally, Z is for zilch.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: It does look like there's zilch chance for the Mariners
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: to pull this thing off. Alex Akita tweeted out something
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I was thinking last night, so I'll give him credit
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: for going with it on social media. This would be
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: total Mariners. They get everything that they need. The Rangers
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: lose the rest of their games. The Astros lose the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: rest of their games. The Mariners win the next three
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and then lose on the final game of the season
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to the Angels.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: To the Angels.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to the Angels.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Just the cherry on top of this poop Sunday.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be surprised if that doesn't happen.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Or don't be surprised if that does happen.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: All right, roundtable is next. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.