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Drive Thru News #50 - Stories that have come back to Haunt us! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  It's time to begin, you weird Halloween music.
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  This is Halloween.
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  This is Halloween.
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  Halloween.
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  Halloween.
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  This is Halloween.
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  What's this?
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  What's this?
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  There's white stuff in the air.
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  What's this?
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  Kidnapping Sandy Claus.
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  Put him in a bag.
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  Laughing everywhere.
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  Welcome to drive thru episode number 50.
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  This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of automotive,
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  motorsport, and random car adjacent news.
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  Pull up to window number one for some automotive news.
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  Hello?
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  Can you hear us?
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  I can hear you.
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  I can't see you.
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  I'm assuming you guys are holding off until the big costume reveal.
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  Well, we thought we would do the whole episode in darkness, right?
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  And then we could sing, Hello darkness, my old friend.
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  But I don't think our fans would enjoy the dark screen.
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  I don't know.
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  I've got a face for dark screens.
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  All right, let's see it.
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  This is awesome.
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  Oh, my man!
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  NEEE!
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  By the way, I don't know where you got narwhal.
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  Isn't it a narwhal?
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  It's like a unicorn.
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  I don't know what that is.
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  No, it's just a unicorn.
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  It's just a unicorn.
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  For some reason, I had it in my head that you were a narwhal.
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  Maybe you wished I was a narwhal.
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  Woah, look at Tanya!
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  You ready for this?
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  This is gonna be like
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  Eric, you're just you.
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  It's like burning my I have to wear the sunglasses because I
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  can't stand to look at this shirt.
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  It's so freaking bright.
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  I wear my sunglasses at night so I can, so I can watch you weave
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  and breathe your storylines.
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  Oh my god, ew.
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  I thought it was keep track of visions in my head.
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  Oh, that's like another verse.
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  Yeah.
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  This is the musical episode.
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  You are Eric circuit 2022.
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  I'm bringing back the days of SRO, man.
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  I am a yellow flag.
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  Tanya is a snowboarder who's trapped in Bloodborne.
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  And I have a horn.
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  You're a narwhal.
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  Meanwhile, back at the ranch.
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  Last time we talked about the 5.
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  0, but this is the big 5.
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  0 for us!
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  50!
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  50 drive thru episodes.
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  You know there are podcasts out there that don't have 50 episodes?
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  And we have 50 of just the drive thru.
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  That is astounding.
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  It's inception.
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  What layer are we on?
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  Because we are a podcast inside of the podcast?
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  Inside of the podcast, inside of the network.
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  Goodnight.
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  What's more impressive that we have 50 episodes of just the drive-through, or
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  that our listenership has not changed.
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  It hasn't gone down.
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  It's gone up.
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  So that's a good thing.
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  Adding one or two kids to the mix doesn't count for going up.
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  They keep listening to that d and d episode of rpe.
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  You know, I don't know what to say.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Speaking of on repeat, we have done some Halloween episodes in the past, trying to
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  be all spooky and drive through haunted houses in Florida and stuff like that.
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  You know, we gave it some thought and said, why don't we talk about topics
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  that I don't know if it's because of chat GPT or because of our computers
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  or big brothers always listening, but topics and stories that have come back
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  to haunt us in the month of October, right off the top from last month, we
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  were literally talking about Chrysler.
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  Where they were in the world no sooner did the episode publish and they're
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  already saying off with his head So the CEO his contract is up Carlos.
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  He's got open to work on his LinkedIn right now You know, it's all good.
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  I get it.
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  But who wants this job?
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  Who wants to be at the head of Stellantis right now?
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  Not that guy.
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  As I dug into this a little bit more, yeah, he's 66, he can make all the
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  excuses about, I'm leaving for family reasons and this and that and the other.
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  Just go do something with your life.
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  Yeah, right.
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  I noticed there's been a little bit of restructuring at Stellantis
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  over the last couple of years.
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  So if you kind of go back to when all this got started, and we did an episode
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  Way back in the drive through, we talked about the Stellantis family tree and who
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  is connected to who and second cousins and all this kind of stuff going on.
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  And now they got this new seal slide that they have on their website
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  and I actually dug into this, make sure it wasn't somebody just, you
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  know, rendering it themselves.
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  And so they've actually kind of minimize the brands inside of Stellantis.
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  What I discovered was.
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  Ferrari was spun off.
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  It's now its own company.
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  It's got a Dutch backing and it's kind of back in the hands of the
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  Ferrari family and stuff like that.
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  So they got out from underneath the talons of Fiat.
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  So I thought that was pretty cool.
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  And that kind of explains why things have changed so much at Ferrari, even
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  recently with the introduction of the F80 and some of the other cars that
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  William's been talking about on his show.
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  But I had to laugh when I saw the Lancia logo.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  What cars are they making?
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  Forget that noise.
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  But also surprising was seeing the Vauxhall logo under Stellantis.
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  And I'm like, when did that happen?
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  That was a GM thing.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  It was like GM of UK.
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  It's always been Vauxhall.
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  And I'm like, wait, what?
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  I find that kind of interesting because through Vauxhall, you've also got.
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  That weird relationship with Holden.
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  So I'm wondering like, what other interesting muscle cars might Dodge end
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  up with in the future as things progress.
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  And then finally, I also read an article talking about how they might, and I'm
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  going to put big air quotes around might, Sell off Maserati, which is something
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  we've been angling at for a while now.
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  It's like, well, what's the point who buys Maserati's if they sell off Maserati,
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  who would they sell it to Ferrari got sold to a Dutch holding company.
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  Does Maserati go to the Chinese like a Lotus or something like that?
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  It bothered me a bit.
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  But interesting to see the logos that are on this slide.
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  Opal was surprising to me too, because they had ties to GM as well.
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  I've also heard some rumors about, is the Chrysler brand still going to be around?
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  And so some of this stuff happens quietly in the background, like Ford
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  and GM pulling out of Australia was a big deal and everybody made us think
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  about it, but Opal gets sold and.
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  It's sort of like if a tree falls in a forest in this
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  country, who here's that tree?
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  No one.
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  Yeah.
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  Nobody cares.
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  Exactly.
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  Coming back to haunt me.
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  Do you guys want to hear the latest in the Pacifica saga?
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  I was wondering if we were going to get back to like things that have come
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  back to haunt us, like personally.
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  Cause I was expecting to hear about the 924, uh, and then the R32,
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  you know, and things like that.
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  As we were having the last drive through, it was talking about how
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  the Pacifica went in for service.
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  We were unsure if it was going to be the fourth transmission,
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  you know, all this kind of thing.
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  And by the grace of whatever omnipotent being you believe in, it
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  wasn't a transmission for a change.
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  It was related to the hybrid.
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  And it was like the heating system that keeps the batteries
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  at whatever optimal temperature.
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  Now I will say, we had a moment the other day, I turned the car on, it hadn't been
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  plugged in, the battery was depleted, and it threw up the big red wrench again,
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  and it said, service charging system.
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  I'm like, did somebody try to charge the van when we weren't looking?
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  Like I'm not even parked in a place where there's electric chargers around.
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  It hasn't been charged since last night.
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  I did the it crap thing.
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  I turned it off and I turned it back on again.
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  All the errors went away and I kept driving and no issues there,
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  but so far, so good, all of it was covered under warranty yet again,
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  I can't throw too much hate at Stellantis product, ask for max care.
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  So you've had the van for how long?
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  We've had it since 2019.
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  And how much of that time has it spent in the shop?
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  If I tally it all up, I'd say six months out of five years.
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  It's been in the shop six months, more or less.
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  So it doesn't sound like it was six months out of five years.
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  That's a month every year.
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  That's a lot of time for your vehicle to be down.
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  I've had my truck for seven years.
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  It's been down one day.
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  Yeah, but you drive.
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  A Toyota Tundra that has been made the same way forever.
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  She's driving a space shuttle.
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  I understand.
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  We've had our van for one year.
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  It's been in the shop zero days.
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  Yes.
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  Toyota reliability.
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  There's something to be said about it.
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  But what I'm really interested in with the Pacifica is I was thinking about
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  it the other day when I was driving it.
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  We are finally over 100, 000 miles.
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  I feel like it's a TMU car.
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  And for those that don't know the acronym TMU is true mileage
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  unknown because when you're in electric mode, it is clocking miles.
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  But those are body miles.
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  So I don't know how many miles the engine has on it.
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  You know, when you sell a car, it's like, well, how many miles on it?
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  You assume the engine and the body match.
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  So if it has 100, 000 miles, everything has 100, 000 miles.
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  But realistically, the way this thing operates, the motor doesn't
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  run for a large portion of the time.
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  And so I was like, how many miles does the van actually have?
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  So I'm thinking it might have 60% Of the miles.
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  And that might be too much.
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  I don't think it's 50 50, but I think it might be 60%.
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  So let's just say the van only has 60, 000 miles on the motor, which would make
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  that stat of six months in the shop.
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  Even worse.
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  I was waiting for you to go there.
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  Just saying.
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  Speaking of Chrysler.
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  Oh boy.
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  Remember they sold negative one vehicles last year.
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  Yeah, but then they sold another dot start.
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  First of all, why does a dealer have a brand new dot start sitting on their
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  lot in the year of our Lord 2024?
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  See, this is why lost and found existed.
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  Just when you thought they were all gone.
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  You found another one, Brad.
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  It was hand delivered to me.
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  It's been sitting on the lot for eight years.
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  Who wants an eight year old brand new car that isn't a collector car?
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  I want to know what kind of loan the person got on this because they
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  probably didn't walk in and pay cash.
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  What do you think their payment is on this car?
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  Is it like the Ford Escort?
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  Is it like a 600 payment on a 30 year old Ford Escort?
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  Well, as much as we joke about this, and we've talked about this before, it brings
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  up a really interesting conversation about if a car sits on a dealership lot
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  for, let's say, a year or two years, and in the case of Dodge Vipers and
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  NSXs for like an eternity, how much does it depreciate just sitting there?
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  Because the dealership can't ask Sticker For a 2016 Dodge Dart,
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  which was, let's say it was 25, 000 to just pick a round number.
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  That was 25, 000 in 2016.
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  So with inflation, what is that now?
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  Is that a 32, 000 car?
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  It's not worth 32, 000.
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  But at some point they hit a floor.
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  I mean, my guess is they probably sold this car for 15.
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  For 15, 000.
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  That's my guess.
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  Brand new eight year old car, but still zero, like very low miles.
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  I'm sure, I'm sure nobody was test driving this thing.
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  So then that begs the question, if they were using it to, let's say they got to
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  run it eventually or take the battery out.
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  I don't know, but you can't just let it sit there for eight years
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  and rot in the parking lot.
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  Is it sold as used at that point?
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  Because it's got some, let's say demo miles on it.
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  It's not used, but it's probably sold as a demo.
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  If it was never titled to anybody else, it wouldn't be.
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  And what kind of warranty do you get on a brand new eight year old car?
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  Like how does that?
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  Well, you just told everybody on any Solantis product, you
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  get the max care warranty.
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  That's true.
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  They probably got the max care warranty thrown in.
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  Would you want a brand new Dodge Dart today?
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  I've never wanted a Dodge Dart brand new or otherwise.
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  They're not that bad.
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  I mean, they're better than the Chrysler 200s.
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  Neon derivatives in some respects.
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  The 200 and the, uh, Dodge Dart work.
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  Alfa Romeo, I forget what chassis they were built on, but I rode in a couple.
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  They weren't that bad.
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  They weren't that good either.
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  But anyway, talking about topics that have come back to haunt us,
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  remember we were chatting a while ago about California and how they want
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  to always keep up with the Joneses.
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  Well, they wanted to keep up with European regulations to limit speed.
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  They've actually passed their first bill in what I would assume
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  is a series of bills yet to come.
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  And I thought this ironic because the headline reads, how California
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  plans to stop you from speeding 10 miles over the speed limit.
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  Isn't one mile over the limit speeding like by the law?
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  Why do we have this like, well, 55, but it's okay to do 65, obviously, they're
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  going to use GPS and electronics and all this stuff to limit you based on whatever
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  the speed limit is just like your garment.
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  It beeps at you like we've talked about.
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  Right?
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  But now it's law that it's going to come into effect at 2030 that vehicles are
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  going to start having this type of nanny.
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  Built into their electronic systems to limit you from speeding.
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  And it's not limiting you.
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  All it is is flashing a warning on your dashboard telling you you've exceeded
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  10 miles an hour over the speed limit, which would have to mean that your
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  dashboard is connected to GPS to know what the speed limit on a road is.
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  GPS and a front facing camera is what this says here.
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  But you know what's funny?
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  My very first 2001 Volkswagen, you could set a speed limit warning for
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  other drivers and when anybody went over that speed limit, it would flash the
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  dash doesn't match the speed limit, but whenever the car went over a certain
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  number, it would let the driver know.
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  Hey, don't do this.
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  So this is not new technology.
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  You can also turn it off, I think.
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  Yeah, obviously you can turn it off, but it's really a law to institute
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  a nanny that the manufacturers must comply with, but the rest of us
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  can just ignore it and go about it.
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  Well, the real question is.
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  What does this lead to?
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  It's almost like a gateway law.
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  It's like, you crack the door open on this, and now, what does it become later?
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  Because this isn't, who cares?
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  It's like lane assist, where the car, like, shakes because it
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  sensed you hit the paint line.
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  It's like, okay, whatever, I can turn that off, keep going,
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  drive on the line all I want.
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  The first sign is it notifies you.
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  The next sign or the next step in this evolution of notifies
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  your insurance company.
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  It notifies law enforcement Notifies the manufacturers to void your
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  warranty and this that and the other and then all of a sudden nobody's
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  driving That's the escalation.
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  That's scary.
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  You guys took it to that extreme and I see it the other way where
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  Okay, this system is in the car.
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  It's tested.
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  It's vetted It's somewhat accurate and it adjusts with the road
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  that you're on and this and that.
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  I've made the comment before, we go back to like episode 42,
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  I think it was, is that we're talking about the levitating eggs.
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  Enjoy going at the speed limit because legally all these self
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  driving vehicles are going to have to go at the posted speed limit
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  because then it doesn't make sense.
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  Auto driving Tesla run at 10 mile an hour over the speed limit,
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  they're speeding regardless.
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  What I think is going to happen is, to your point Tanya, if this is a
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  gateway, Once it's tied into the MFI system and the MFI talks to the EFI.
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  Why inform the insurance company?
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  Why notify the police?
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  That's all extra work and it's gonna take too long to even enforce it because
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  they gotta dispatch and this and that and no, they don't have to dispatch it.
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  Mail you a ticket, . That's just it.
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  But what's to stop them from just.
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  Slowing the car down, especially now that we have electric brakes.
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  We have electric this and electric different than adaptive cruise control
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  But you're insinuating that they actually care about safety when really
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  I don't think they care about safety.
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  They care about revenue Yeah, they care about the speeding ticket revenue
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  insurance company care about their revenue because they have bottom lines
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  They gotta adhere to they've got a board of directors that they've got
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  to line their pockets with which is why our insurance costs are So high
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  I don't think they care about safety.
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  I think they care about money and this is a money generator.
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  So the insurance company thing is always interesting because it can be very
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  divisive when you talk about insurance companies, you know, they're when you
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  need it canceled after you need it, you know, all those kinds of things.
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  I often wonder it's in the insurance company's best interest for you
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  not to get into an accident, not to speed, not to do not to this.
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  If you think about it.
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  Because basically they're sitting on their dirty criminal butts, collecting
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  money, playing in the stock market or whatever they do with it, right?
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  It's the reality of the situation.
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  It behooves them to make sure that you follow the laws and you never get into
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  an accident, the cars drive themselves.
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  But when you get to that point, who's liable, right?
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  Well, we talked about that before with self driving cars.
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  Are you really driving?
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  If the car is self driving, it's implied in that statement
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  that you are not driving.
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  The car is driving itself.
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  So what the hell is the point of insurance?
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  Why am I paying for it?
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  So it's an interesting game.
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  The further we look down this tunnel, when we start talking about insurance,
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  you know, this reminds me of one of the top gear specials where Jeremy Clarkson
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  was driving the R35 GTR in Japan.
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  And I don't know if this was real or not.
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  But again, it's.
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  television entertainment, but he was saying that he could not go over a certain
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  speed GPS, you know, electronically controlled until he got to the racetrack.
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  And then the GPS knew when the car was on the racetrack
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  and it released that limiter.
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  I don't know if any of that was true, but I mean, it was part of the skit.
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  And see, that's where my head was going.
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  I was thinking exactly.
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  That's what's going to happen on the roads where tried this trick
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  in the seventies and eighties.
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  We'll only make the gauge go to 85.
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  So the car isn't faster than the 85, you know, that kind of thing.
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  But yes, with GPS, with electronics, with the MFIs, talking to the
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  efis, what's to stop them from just limiting the car to 55 miles an
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  hour or whatever the speed limit is?
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  Then why are we even bothering building B eights and V sixes and all this crap?
• 17:44
  Why don't we just make lighter weight, lower horsepower, more
• 17:47
  fuel efficient cars, then that only go to the speed limit?
• 17:49
  'cause I don't need a car that can go do 120.
• 17:51
  There's no speed limit.
• 17:52
  That's 120 except for that like one highway in Montana, right
• 17:55
  where there is no speed limit.
• 17:57
  I totally agree with your point.
• 17:58
  The horsepower wars are still out there too.
• 18:01
  You know, you've got the new ZO six Corvette is a thousand horsepower to do
• 18:06
  what in America, it doesn't make sense.
• 18:07
  Now, places in Europe where they've even started to kind of climb back.
• 18:12
  I heard about the Autobahn like, Oh, we might be putting speed
• 18:15
  limits on the Autobahn because things are out of control.
• 18:17
  They started doing that in Italy on the Alto Strada and other
• 18:20
  places where it's like, you know, it's not unlimited anymore.
• 18:23
  I guess unless you're in the middle of the United Arab Emirates or something where
• 18:27
  they got those, you know, massive highways that you could just go ballistically fast.
• 18:31
  What's the point?
• 18:32
  Go to the racetrack.
• 18:33
  Like Brad's saying.
• 18:34
  It's money.
• 18:34
  It's an ego thing.
• 18:35
  I'm going to pound my chest.
• 18:37
  I've got a Camaro this faster than your Mustang kind of thing.
• 18:39
  Even though the speed limits on the roads that we drive on are exactly
• 18:42
  the same and we can't go over them.
• 18:43
  My car still makes more.
• 18:45
  As the 57, 000 other ones that were made on the same assembly line that year.
• 18:49
  Okay.
• 18:50
  It doesn't matter.
• 18:50
  My car is my car.
• 18:51
  My car is special.
• 18:52
  Tell me I'm wrong.
• 18:53
  Tell me it's not about ego and it's not about money.
• 18:55
  Yeah.
• 18:55
  Yeah.
• 18:56
  I don't disagree.
• 18:57
  Everything comes down to the money.
• 18:58
  Well, this next one is right up Tanya's alley.
• 19:00
  We're still talking about nannies here.
• 19:03
  Cutting edge technology coming from Nissan.
• 19:06
  I love this.
• 19:09
  Nissan's latest driving assist feature encourages drivers to
• 19:11
  quit holding up the left lane.
• 19:13
  I like it.
• 19:14
  Get the hell out.
• 19:15
  Move.
• 19:16
  Over!
• 19:18
  On the East Coast, the slow lane is the left lane.
• 19:21
  I mean, I pass so many people in the right lane, it's not even funny.
• 19:24
  Just kind of trundling along.
• 19:26
  I just, again, I've witnessed so many things, like we talked about last episode.
• 19:29
  Driving in and out of the city for the last couple of months.
• 19:31
  There's only so much space in the right lane.
• 19:35
  So what does this do?
• 19:36
  Is this another like, Learning!
• 19:37
  Learning!
• 19:37
  You dumbass slowpoke!
• 19:40
  Get out of the left lane!
• 19:42
  Like, is that all it does?
• 19:43
  So, what I'm reading here is, if the car in front of you is moving too slow, it'll
• 19:48
  suggest that you overtake them, and then you move over, and then the car will
• 19:54
  retake control from you, because they're pro pilot, whatever, but if you're in
• 19:58
  that lane for too long and don't move back over, It will suggest, Hey, maybe you
• 20:02
  should move back over to the other lane.
• 20:04
  So it'll suggest one move and then it'll suggest another.
• 20:08
  This is so dumb.
• 20:09
  And what about that a hole that merges on and shoots four lanes across
• 20:13
  and then parks in the left lane?
• 20:15
  Is it still going to give a warning?
• 20:16
  What about the driver of a certain demographic that likes to make
• 20:19
  right turns from the left lane?
• 20:21
  In the middle of the highway, you get to their exit.
• 20:23
  Just like the speed limiter that California imposed, this
• 20:27
  can be turned off or ignored.
• 20:29
  Of course it can.
• 20:30
  What's the point?
• 20:31
  Just say they have it.
• 20:32
  If it helps move someone out of the left lane, then I guess it's good.
• 20:37
  It's useless, but I don't know.
• 20:40
  Maybe it could change behavior.
• 20:42
  So I don't usually read the comments, but this first comment here is pretty good.
• 20:46
  They're amazing.
• 20:48
  Hoping ProPilot 2.
• 20:48
  2 will have a mechanical robot arm that pops out of the headrest and
• 20:53
  smacks the driver on the side of the head after ignoring the suggestions.
• 20:57
  Or the next one, maybe an electric cattle prod in the base of the seat.
• 21:04
  No, it's going to be like that scene from Ghostbusters where every time
• 21:07
  he gets the card wrong, it zaps him.
• 21:12
  Oh, man.
• 21:13
  Nissan for the comic release.
• 21:15
  I thought this was going to be an article about an indicator warning
• 21:18
  you that your bumper is falling off because every Nissan seems to not
• 21:23
  have appropriate bumper mounting.
• 21:26
  I feel like Tesla needs one of those and we'll probably talk
• 21:29
  about that later, right, Eric?
• 21:30
  Yes, we will.
• 21:31
  All jokes aside, this is what Nissan is devoting its attention to?
• 21:35
  They are so screwed.
• 21:37
  Why?
• 21:38
  What do they need to devote their attention to?
• 21:40
  They make one car with different names.
• 21:45
  They've got it down lock.
• 21:47
  They're good.
• 21:48
  So they have time to devote to stuff like this.
• 21:51
  If only that were true, maybe they wouldn't be in such trouble.
• 21:55
  Financially, if they just went through and did a rebranding and everything was
• 22:00
  Ultima based, but instead they've got these other vehicles and their profits
• 22:05
  are down 70 percent year over year.
• 22:09
  Has anybody yet seen a 400 Z on the road?
• 22:12
  I've yet to see one.
• 22:13
  I'm just saying no.
• 22:15
  But I see a lot of frontiers these days.
• 22:17
  Uh, I mean, I'm sorry, Altima Sports Altima Sports Altima,
• 22:21
  sports Ultima Sport Track.
• 22:24
  Yeah.
• 22:24
  There is a frightening number of Altimas on the road and old
• 22:27
  Centras, but none of 'em are new.
• 22:29
  Nobody's buying new Ultima's they're only buying used Ultima's.
• 22:33
  Well, I did see a new one on the road the other day and I thought it was a
• 22:36
  Maxima and then it passed us and it said Ultima Platinum or something.
• 22:40
  I was like, wow, that is big.
• 22:43
  It's gotten huge.
• 22:45
  They could have just changed the badge on the back of the Maxima too.
• 22:48
  Oh, but they don't make the Maxima anymore.
• 22:50
  The Maxima.
• 22:50
  Oh, new Nissan Maxima 2025 reveal.
• 22:53
  So it's all crap.
• 22:54
  I thought they discontinued it.
• 22:55
  Somebody go to Nissan's website and figure it out.
• 22:57
  Car and Driver 2026 Nissan Maxima.
• 22:59
  What we know so far.
• 23:00
  We're not even 2025.
• 23:02
  We've reported on this.
• 23:03
  We went the hokey pokey on this.
• 23:05
  It is, it isn't, it isn't.
• 23:06
  And then there was a report that they got rid of the Maxima.
• 23:09
  Whatever, who cares.
• 23:09
  Well, apparently they're already talking about 2026.
• 23:11
  So things that come back to haunt us.
• 23:14
  The Maxima.
• 23:14
  The zombie.
• 23:15
  Yeah, it is.
• 23:16
  It is.
• 23:16
  I'm B.
• 23:17
  It's the zombie Ultima.
• 23:19
  Alright, since we're naming Ultimas, I got a new one for you guys.
• 23:22
  All of us saw this because we were all driving in together into the city.
• 23:26
  Traffic was stopped on the other side because we were going so slow
• 23:29
  and I couldn't help but not look.
• 23:30
  I said, I'll be damned.
• 23:32
  If that isn't an Ultima being drenched by firefighters, because it was a
• 23:37
  blades on the other side of the highway.
• 23:40
  Or thing.
• 23:40
  Immediately I turned to Jess and I said, so what do you call that one?
• 23:43
  It's a blastema.
• 23:46
  Oh, that's better than what we came up with.
• 23:48
  Fire Baltimore.
• 23:51
  Ball, ball to our ball.
• 23:53
  It's just a Baltimore, Baltimore in Baltimore.
• 23:58
  Couldn't believe it.
• 23:58
  I was like, had to be an Ultima.
• 23:59
  Of course, it's an Ultima because what else is there on the road?
• 24:02
  They only make the Ultima.
• 24:05
  Everything else is a figment of your imagination.
• 24:08
  The holographic projection off an Ultima.
• 24:11
  It's only one car.
• 24:13
  That's why they can focus on whatever the hell that profiler thing was.
• 24:17
  I already forgot because it was that cool.
• 24:20
  Complete trash.
• 24:22
  All right.
• 24:23
  Well, speaking of other enforcement and you know, last time we talked about
• 24:27
  our run ins with the law, I am the law.
• 24:32
  Well, guess what?
• 24:33
  We had talked a bunch of drive throughs ago about how people
• 24:37
  were speeding in the District of Columbia and the district has no way.
• 24:41
  Of enforcing the speeding tickets, the red light cameras, parking tickets,
• 24:45
  whatever, because all of these folks are out of state because the DC is DC.
• 24:49
  But most of the people that are infringing upon the laws are from
• 24:52
  Maryland and Virginia and other places.
• 24:54
  But that's such bull, I'm sorry, you get a ticket in another state, you
• 24:58
  get the ticket and you have to pay it.
• 25:00
  So why is DC special?
• 25:02
  No representation.
• 25:03
  That's why it's special.
• 25:04
  Okay, because it's crap.
• 25:06
  You get a ticket in another state, you're paying that fine.
• 25:09
  So that brings up an interesting point because obviously the DMV, Maryland, D.
• 25:12
  C., Virginia, they're all very close to each other and, you know, there's a lot
• 25:15
  of interstate travel between the three.
• 25:18
  If I was a Maryland resident and I racked up a bunch of speeding
• 25:21
  tickets in Virginia, Would those show up in the Maryland DMV system?
• 25:26
  Yeah, there's reciprocity.
• 25:28
  So that's the problem.
• 25:29
  DC doesn't have an agreement with Maryland or Virginia to have reciprocity
• 25:33
  for that to happen for whatever reason, because they're not a state.
• 25:37
  And so there's no interstate relationship there.
• 25:40
  Think about that.
• 25:41
  They're not a state, but they still have a government.
• 25:44
  They have a mayor.
• 25:45
  They operate more like a city, I guess.
• 25:46
  Let's not get into a discussion about DC mayors because these
• 25:49
  things are surmountable.
• 25:52
  Oh, I know.
• 25:52
  I know.
• 25:53
  If they're high enough on your to do list, they are.
• 25:55
  If they can make easy pass work from Maine to Florida.
• 25:58
  I mean, come on, they can make this work too.
• 26:00
  Yeah.
• 26:01
  Let me put it in perspective.
• 26:02
  This is how bad It is in D.
• 26:05
  C.
• 26:05
  There was basically a group that got together and added up
• 26:08
  all of the outstanding tickets that were owed to the D.
• 26:12
  C.
• 26:12
  Public Works from all of the out of state tickets that were issued.
• 26:16
  This number is staggering, folks.
• 26:18
  Eight hundred and eighty nine million dollars of unpaid tickets in the year
• 26:25
  2022 alone, almost a billion, 1 billion.
• 26:30
  You said a group got together and counted these.
• 26:33
  I'm picturing a group of like high school kids with little yellow
• 26:35
  slips, sitting at a table, counting them like they're counting ballots.
• 26:39
  Yep.
• 26:39
  Here's one, here's one, here's one up.
• 26:42
  This one was paid up.
• 26:43
  Here's one.
• 26:44
  Here's one.
• 26:44
  I hope they had some sort of scanning device that was just reading the numbers.
• 26:48
  And it was all Excel spreadsheets.
• 26:50
  But the point is that it's.
• 26:52
  Staggering amount of money, but then it ties back into this california thing
• 26:57
  We were just talking about because they call it the steer act strengthening
• 27:02
  traffic enforcement education and responsibility Amendment act of 2024.
• 27:06
  It's very long So the steer act the clever name the punch line to all this is is
• 27:11
  This is kind of at the far end of this.
• 27:12
  So anyone convicted of criminal and reckless aggravated driving, et cetera,
• 27:17
  et cetera, et cetera, an intelligent speed assistance system will be installed
• 27:21
  in their vehicles by the DMV, which will automatically limit their speed, that they
• 27:24
  can be traveled on the roads according to the steer act, yada, yada, yada.
• 27:27
  Again, to your point, Tanya, this California thing coming from
• 27:31
  Europe originally, Is it gateway to stuff like this happening?
• 27:35
  So I don't mind in the sense of our laws are pathetic sometimes.
• 27:42
  That someone who drives under the influence of whatever it is, can just
• 27:47
  go back out and get in their car.
• 27:49
  So if you wanted to institute some sort of restrictive device, well, first of
• 27:53
  all, they shouldn't be allowed to drive, but that's not how it works, apparently.
• 27:57
  I'd be for that kind of thing.
• 27:59
  Weren't they blowing into those kazoos on their dashboard?
• 28:02
  Well, there used to be those kind of interlocks where you'd like, you
• 28:04
  have to do your own breathalyzer.
• 28:06
  You can't drive unless you blow the appropriate level.
• 28:09
  For this, you need to be convicted of criminal reckless
• 28:13
  and aggravated reckless driving.
• 28:15
  I don't think this is going to work because I don't think the people that
• 28:18
  are actually doing the reckless and aggravated reckless driving are going
• 28:22
  to be convicted for various reasons I care not to share on this podcast.
• 28:28
  But I feel like could be seen as targeting and police abuse
• 28:32
  of power and yada, yada, yada.
• 28:34
  But anyway, I don't think this is going to be effective.
• 28:37
  No, of course not.
• 28:39
  So that number of 889 million is going to continue to climb because people are going
• 28:45
  to wipe their butts with these tickets.
• 28:47
  This goes back to We have all these asshats running around with the
• 28:52
  historic tags on their daily driver.
• 28:54
  Don't even get me started with that.
• 28:56
  Which I was observing yesterday, within about 30 seconds, two cars had
• 29:01
  expired registration because One was august of 24 and the other one was like
• 29:07
  september 24 But apparently I guess maybe that's the new thing is let me
• 29:11
  just not pay my registration Which is supposed to contact your insurance.
• 29:15
  We're supposed to cancel you.
• 29:16
  They don't contact your insurance if you don't have it Look at brad's face If you
• 29:21
  get a ticket and then you don't pay it Yeah, we don't have time to send the lien
• 29:27
  collector against you or whatever, right?
• 29:28
  Like the tax collector to come knock on your door and collect your thing
• 29:32
  But it could tie into your insurance or even your registration and then when
• 29:37
  you go to renew What although maybe not registration renewal because people don't
• 29:40
  do that and maybe not even insurance renewal because people probably don't
• 29:43
  renew that either Just keep driving on expired bullshit, but it's like
• 29:46
  you could tie it into those systems.
• 29:48
  It's like oh When I go to renew, guess what?
• 29:50
  My unpaid tickets are showing up.
• 29:52
  You can't renew your stuff or your license or whatever else
• 29:55
  until all this stuff gets paid.
• 29:57
  Like, there has to be a mechanism for it.
• 29:59
  That is possible in the year 2024 with artificial intelligence and computing
• 30:05
  power and all the crap that we have.
• 30:07
  There's no excuse for a billion dollars in unpaid tickets.
• 30:11
  I don't understand how that gets unpaid.
• 30:14
  It's crap.
• 30:14
  It's all crap.
• 30:15
  No wonder people are like, look it, I'm going to do 100 through DC because
• 30:19
  I have no penalty, no consequence.
• 30:21
  Yeah, of course.
• 30:22
  It's just bad behavior.
• 30:23
  Duh.
• 30:24
  So the moral to the story is where's the best place to do 120 miles an hour with
• 30:28
  that V8 Camaro you were talking about?
• 30:30
  Apparently through DC.
• 30:31
  Yeah, I hope you've got spare wheels lying around because as soon as you hit one
• 30:34
  of those potholes, you're replacing it.
• 30:36
  And see, this billion dollars of revenue, which is where it should go, Into the
• 30:40
  transportation budget for repaving and structural improvements to the road.
• 30:45
  You know what I think?
• 30:45
  I think the lobbyist for the intelligent speed assistance system has gotten
• 30:50
  the ear of somebody high up in DC and they're like, we've got a great idea.
• 30:55
  It's going to solve all your speeding ticket problems.
• 30:58
  We'll run the system and we'll install them and you can pay us a fee to do it.
• 31:02
  But yeah, we'll get your speeding tickets paid for you.
• 31:05
  10 cents on the dollar.
• 31:06
  It's just like the conversation my wife and I have been having the last
• 31:09
  couple weeks as we watch the guy who does the rounds in the morning changing
• 31:13
  the car batteries in the speed cameras.
• 31:16
  So you're like, how good are these batteries?
• 31:18
  How long do they last?
• 31:20
  Jokes about those things not actually working.
• 31:22
  They're not always on, because if you have radar, they go off.
• 31:26
  There used to be one.
• 31:27
  Occasionally it went off.
• 31:28
  Mostly it didn't go off.
• 31:29
  And then they actually removed it.
• 31:31
  So I don't know what that was all about.
• 31:32
  Because it didn't work because the batteries were dead.
• 31:34
  Well, Brad, we're talking about billions.
• 31:37
  And you were talking about roads in DC and how you would need a new set of wheels.
• 31:42
  Well, I got a call back.
• 31:44
  Hoonigan, you guys probably read in the news, they are in chapter 11 bankruptcy,
• 31:49
  which is restructuring, reorganization, trying to consolidate their debt.
• 31:53
  They have a projected total of 1.
• 31:55
  8 billion dollars in debt, of which they declared 1.
• 32:00
  2 is resolvable, so there's still like 600 million on the table.
• 32:03
  That they're dealing with and I had to scratch my head is pretty long video.
• 32:07
  The guy that breaks it down does a pretty good job.
• 32:09
  He actually goes through as much legal paperwork as he can find stuff like that.
• 32:12
  But what I didn't know and now begin to appreciate is the hoonigan
• 32:18
  that Ken Block started and built is not the hoonigan of today.
• 32:22
  Although the branding is the same.
• 32:23
  It's a umbrella for a larger company called Wheel Pros, which is backed by
• 32:28
  Clearlake Capital and this and that.
• 32:30
  So for those of you that those names don't mean anything to you, the following
• 32:34
  names might mean something to you.
• 32:37
  Rotiform, American Racing, Fuel, TSW, Borbay, a bunch of other wheel companies.
• 32:43
  I think there's like 30 of them that are part of this conglomerate.
• 32:46
  And one more that hits close to home for you, Brad.
• 32:48
  They own Smittybilt.
• 32:50
  So the debt that Hoonigan has because wheel pros took on the name and then
• 32:56
  restructured everything, they have almost 2 billion in debt that they're
• 33:00
  trying to figure out how to resolve.
• 33:02
  And more than likely.
• 33:04
  There's going to be a thousand or more people that are basically going
• 33:07
  to be unemployed here pretty soon.
• 33:09
  So it was kind of funny when we were reading and talking about those articles
• 33:13
  about that exodus from Hoonigan within the year of Ken's death, where people
• 33:17
  were just, we're leaving Hoonigan, we're done, you know, blah, blah, blah.
• 33:20
  What we didn't realize was all this other turmoil under the brand name that's been
• 33:25
  going on, I guess, for quite a bit now.
• 33:28
  Obviously inside of this consolidated debt, it's not just wheel related stuff.
• 33:32
  It's also the factories that they bought the properties and the
• 33:35
  back taxes and the property taxes.
• 33:37
  And this is the problem with mergers and acquisitions.
• 33:39
  You take on that company, you take on all their baggage, you take on all their debt.
• 33:44
  And now their debt is your debt.
• 33:45
  Sort of like getting married, I guess.
• 33:47
  But in that respect, I almost want to divorce the Hoonigan name from the
• 33:52
  Wheel Pros thing to not tarnish the cool memories of Gymkhana and all that
• 33:57
  other stuff that we associate with Hoonigan, and this is really a Wheel
• 34:01
  Pros problem at the end of the day.
• 34:05
  So speaking of wheels, And calling back the triple article that had
• 34:08
  come out a bunch of months ago about Ricaro and BBS in bankruptcy.
• 34:13
  Well, Fanatec was also on the brink and they got a parachute from Corsair.
• 34:19
  Another IT company.
• 34:21
  They've been buying up all sorts of manufacturers.
• 34:23
  You know, they make memory, they make chips, they make this, they make that.
• 34:26
  So they bought Fanatec, they've rescued Fanatec and you know, they're going
• 34:30
  to bring Fanatec back from shambles.
• 34:32
  I had a conversation with some guys in industry and I said, so
• 34:34
  what do you think about this?
• 34:35
  What do you think about Fanatec being bought by Corsair is
• 34:38
  not like a bad brand name.
• 34:40
  I think the consensus right now, at least from what I can tell, and I
• 34:44
  don't necessarily disagree, is that the reason they were sort of falling
• 34:47
  apart is the quality had gotten worse.
• 34:50
  If you had any exposure to the newer Fanatec stuff, It wasn't
• 34:54
  as nice as it used to be.
• 34:55
  It wasn't as robust as it used to be because it got super popular.
• 34:58
  They had to cut corners.
• 34:59
  They had to make things cheaper, typical business stuff.
• 35:01
  So Corsair sweeps in at this point in their manufacturing lifecycle.
• 35:05
  And so does Fanatec stay where it is, or does it slide back and become like
• 35:11
  a Logitech Thrustmaster where it's like, it's okay, it's not that great.
• 35:15
  In the sim world, there's still a ton of manufacturers out there.
• 35:18
  You start talking about Moza, you start talking about Simicube, you
• 35:19
  start talking about Asetek, and a bunch of them are still a little
• 35:24
  bit DIY in terms of fit and finish.
• 35:26
  So I'm really curious to see what happens.
• 35:29
  The ink is still pretty wet on this new deal here, but good to see that Fanatec
• 35:33
  didn't just get flushed down the tubes.
• 35:35
  Yeah, I hope they go back to just making quality wheels in a limited
• 35:40
  quantity rather than trying to serve the masses and make a wheel for everybody.
• 35:43
  I mean, that's my big gripe with, you know, not related, but with BMW,
• 35:47
  they used to make decent products.
• 35:49
  Same with Mercedes.
• 35:50
  And then all of a sudden they started dumbing everything down to try and
• 35:54
  get a larger footprint and ended up just watering down the entire brand.
• 35:58
  So just stick to what you're good at.
• 36:00
  Make good shit.
• 36:01
  People will pay for it.
• 36:02
  Grow that way.
• 36:03
  Don't grow too fast, too quickly by cutting corners.
• 36:06
  When I redid my rig, I invested in Moza and a lot of people were like, I
• 36:10
  don't know, you know, this and that.
• 36:12
  And Moza now, even guys like Jimmy Broadbent are using Moza.
• 36:16
  There's a lot of people that have Moza.
• 36:17
  In their sims and what's funny about it is when people actually mess with it and
• 36:23
  stop throwing shade because you know there were fan of tech fanboys or whatever they
• 36:27
  go this reminds me of the old fan of tech stuff you know rumors what they are that
• 36:31
  stuff was reverse engineered or whatever have you it is really nice quality it's it
• 36:35
  feels like stuff that comes out of a car you know this and that and what i thought
• 36:38
  was interesting is at the same time i'm reading this article about you know
• 36:42
  fanatics back in business they got all this money from corsair to bail them out
• 36:46
  you Moses sign in a deal with Lamborghini, talk about an upward swing to your point,
• 36:51
  Brad, what happens now you start hitching your horse to these bigger wagons.
• 36:56
  And it's like, does it stay the same?
• 36:58
  Can they maintain the quality?
• 37:00
  Or are we going to see, you know, future Moser products going down?
• 37:02
  So the auto sphere itself, it's business, right?
• 37:05
  These games are played over and over and over again.
• 37:08
  So be curious to see what happens in the next couple of years.
• 37:10
  But Sim is not dead by any stretch of the imagination.
• 37:13
  Not nearly the same fever.
• 37:15
  Or fire that there was during COVID where like, you couldn't
• 37:18
  keep the stuff in stock.
• 37:20
  That's the danger in why Fanatec ended up where it was too.
• 37:23
  The market got saturated and you're like, well, your gear's pretty good.
• 37:26
  It seems to last because you know, they built something tough.
• 37:29
  You're only going to replace it if it breaks.
• 37:31
  I wish some of the cars were like that though, but Hey, all right.
• 37:34
  Let's switch to formula one.
• 37:36
  Let's talk about shenanigans.
• 37:37
  What is this nonsense Verstappen is cutting his career short because of
• 37:42
  the whole cursing censorship thing.
• 37:44
  Oh, clickbait.
• 37:45
  He made comments of like, Oh, I don't need to be here for this stuff,
• 37:49
  blah, blah, blah, but whatever.
• 37:52
  Anybody really believes he's just going to walk away?
• 37:55
  No.
• 37:56
  So there has been speculation that he may be out in a year or two anyway, just
• 38:01
  to go do something different, you know, with all the regulation changes in the
• 38:04
  sport over the next couple of years.
• 38:06
  Didn't he also say that there was, like, nothing else is worth it after F1?
• 38:12
  Wasn't he the one who said that?
• 38:13
  Where it's like a lesser form of racing or something, and like, be beneath
• 38:18
  him to do anything other than F1?
• 38:20
  Possibly.
• 38:21
  But I mean, if he wants to stop, that's it.
• 38:23
  Breaking news, breaking news!
• 38:28
  Ricardo just signed with another team!
• 38:31
  No he didn't.
• 38:32
  Psyche.
• 38:33
  FBull is out.
• 38:34
  You know, maybe Verstappen can join Ricciardo wherever he ends up next.
• 38:38
  Doubtful.
• 38:38
  I don't think he's going anywhere.
• 38:40
  If anything, he sets himself up.
• 38:42
  If Red Bull's going down the toilet, he's got an excuse.
• 38:46
  Oh, I was leaving anyway.
• 38:49
  I don't know.
• 38:50
  Said it before.
• 38:51
  I'd like to see Verstappen.
• 38:52
  I'd like to see Hamilton.
• 38:53
  I'd like to see some of the other guys.
• 38:55
  Do an Alonzo, and go to Indy, or go to Lamar, or go to some of
• 39:00
  these other disciplines of racing.
• 39:01
  I don't think they're beneath them.
• 39:03
  I just think that the boys club of Formula One is what it is, and they don't have
• 39:09
  the same pull if they go somewhere else.
• 39:11
  They might actually have to drive.
• 39:13
  It's Adrian Newey's fault.
• 39:14
  That's all we know.
• 39:15
  Which is probably where all the speculation of him retiring
• 39:17
  early is actually coming from.
• 39:19
  Yeah.
• 39:20
  The fact that he's not winning anymore.
• 39:21
  And there's a whole bunch of drama around that too with him
• 39:23
  going to Aston or whatever.
• 39:25
  I want to see how that plays out, but that really doesn't
• 39:27
  really matter until next year.
• 39:28
  But there's a couple other things that matter next year.
• 39:31
  We know Audi's coming, right?
• 39:32
  They're taking over Sauber, Stake, Alfa Romeo, whatever the
• 39:36
  hell that team is, I don't know.
• 39:37
  The rumor, not so rumor, is that Toyota is coming back?
• 39:41
  Well, they're partnering with Haas.
• 39:43
  You don't think this is the perfect exit strategy for Gene Haas?
• 39:46
  To get out of this bleeding pig.
• 39:48
  If that's true, then what's his deal?
• 39:50
  Cause he could have handed it over to Andretti.
• 39:52
  So what's the drama there?
• 39:54
  The American team to quote another American team, right?
• 39:58
  Maybe his ego wouldn't let him.
• 39:59
  Well, did anybody watch the Gunther Steiner expose where he says that
• 40:03
  him and Jean never got along to begin with and blah, blah, blah,
• 40:06
  blah, blah, and all this BS.
• 40:08
  I don't doubt it.
• 40:09
  If you ever watched, which you haven't, Netflix's Drive to Survive.
• 40:12
  Never gonna happen.
• 40:13
  Every time there was a problem in Haas, which was like, Every race.
• 40:18
  He was on the phone getting like, scolded by Gene.
• 40:21
  So I don't think the relationship was very good when every time Gene's sitting there
• 40:25
  watching the race and another of his cars has crashed millions of dollars later.
• 40:29
  Steiner's the one that's gotta sit there and take that phone call.
• 40:32
  I'm pretty sure that relationship wasn't a good one.
• 40:36
  Don't believe everything you watch on YouTube, even if it's
• 40:38
  from the person that was there.
• 40:42
  If you look back, this is not the first time Toyota has Entered into Formula One.
• 40:46
  This was back in the early 2000s, back in the days when the U.
• 40:50
  S.
• 40:50
  Grand Prix was at Indianapolis.
• 40:52
  You had drivers like Alan McNish, Ralf Schumacher, all stars, right?
• 40:58
  I mean, sarcasm aside, Alan McNish went on to do great things for
• 41:02
  Audi at Le Mans, things like that.
• 41:04
  If you look at What Toyota did in the past, and I'm not saying they
• 41:08
  haven't advanced in 20 years, we know Toyotas can be reliable and they
• 41:12
  can be strong and they can be fast, especially in WEC and stuff like that.
• 41:15
  But if you chalk it up to what they did over those five years or
• 41:20
  so that they were in Formula 1, they didn't amount to anything.
• 41:22
  It was a complete failure, which I'm actually kind of surprised Toyota
• 41:26
  is coming back after such a disgrace to use the phrase losing face.
• 41:31
  In front of the world on the formula one stage, but I'm
• 41:33
  happy to see them come back.
• 41:34
  But on the same token, I keep saying Haas, what could go wrong?
• 41:38
  Do they really want that on their scorecard?
• 41:41
  So interestingly, it says that the new agreement doesn't include Toyota
• 41:46
  returning as an engine supplier.
• 41:48
  So there'll be branded Toyota Gazoo racing will appear on the cars.
• 41:53
  They're going to provide.
• 41:55
  Design, technical, and manufacturing services, while Haas will
• 42:00
  provide technical expertise.
• 42:03
  What?
• 42:03
  I'm not sure.
• 42:04
  Money.
• 42:04
  That means money.
• 42:05
  Basically, it's a Toyota with Haas written on it.
• 42:09
  Yes.
• 42:10
  Unlike a Honda with a Porsche crest on it.
• 42:13
  We'll leave that where it is.
• 42:14
  So yes, Toyota's coming back to Formula One.
• 42:16
  They're basically buying Haas is what's going to be the result of this.
• 42:20
  And I see it as a tit for tat.
• 42:21
  Audi's coming up.
• 42:22
  Toyota says we're coming back too.
• 42:23
  It's going to be an interesting 2025 Formula One season.
• 42:27
  Oh, very weird.
• 42:27
  I just don't know who's going to drive for Toyota.
• 42:30
  Verstappen.
• 42:31
  Tim Yellow, Ricardo.
• 42:34
  Justin, he's back.
• 42:35
  Ricardo and Mazepin.
• 42:37
  Oh my God.
• 42:38
  Don't they already have the drivers?
• 42:40
  I'm sure they do.
• 42:40
  I don't know.
• 42:41
  I haven't been keeping up with it.
• 42:42
  Yeah.
• 42:43
  I think one of the new young kids, at least, I think is
• 42:46
  going to be a driver for Haas.
• 42:48
  And I'm not sure who the second driver is.
• 42:51
  So memorable.
• 42:52
  Oh, you know what it is?
• 42:53
  I think I saw this the other day.
• 42:54
  I think Ocon is going to Oh, come on.
• 42:58
  That's a recipe for disaster.
• 43:00
  Well, he got kicked out of, uh, Alpine.
• 43:03
  Yeah.
• 43:04
  So I think it's Ocon and it's the new British kid, Beerman.
• 43:08
  Ali, they'll be the Haas drivers because, not Magnusson.
• 43:12
  'cause I think he's out, basically lost his seat.
• 43:15
  Holberg.
• 43:15
  Holgenburg.
• 43:16
  Thank you.
• 43:16
  He's going to Audi because we must have a German team with German drivers is good.
• 43:22
  I don't think they've named the second Audi driver yet.
• 43:25
  And I think there's been some rumors like Schumacher, his
• 43:28
  name has sort of surfaced again.
• 43:30
  But whether that actually comes to fruition or not, I don't know.
• 43:34
  I mean, there's a couple drivers that don't have seats, so to speak.
• 43:37
  Like, I don't know that Botas or Joe Guanyu have anywhere to
• 43:42
  go now that Sauber's dissolved.
• 43:44
  Does that mean they go to Audi?
• 43:46
  Probably not.
• 43:47
  But there's also a number of other young drivers I guess they could pick up.
• 43:51
  Well, speaking of probably not, We gotta switch gears
• 43:57
  and talk about a subject within the drive thru that just continues to haunt us.
• 44:01
  Once you think you have it under control, it's like a bad rash, and
• 44:05
  it comes back, and it scratches, and it itches, and it smells weird,
• 44:08
  and it's pussy, and it's gross.
• 44:10
  It's overly dramatic.
• 44:11
  Is it really coming back to haunt you when it's par for the course that anytime
• 44:17
  Tesla says, Something's going to happen.
• 44:19
  It doesn't according to their timeline.
• 44:21
  Like, I mean, it's not haunting at this point.
• 44:24
  It would be haunting if it actually delivered something they
• 44:27
  said, according to a schedule.
• 44:29
  So what are they delayed this time?
• 44:31
  Is it the semi truck?
• 44:32
  Because we know it's not the cyber truck that was rushed to production as we've
• 44:35
  already touched after major delays.
• 44:38
  It was rushed to production.
• 44:39
  I don't even know what's been happening with the Tesla semi truck, actually.
• 44:42
  It doesn't matter, but no, it's the, the roadster.
• 44:47
  The biggest Ponzi scheme in the Tesla Donation Foundation ever.
• 44:51
  They need to generate those pre orders so that they can fix the Cybertruck.
• 44:56
  They gotta get the pre orders in for the Roadster and they can keep
• 44:59
  dragging that out for like 10 years.
• 45:01
  The only thing I can say about the Roadster is I like the way it looks.
• 45:05
  And I noticed that too on the road the other day with the Teslas.
• 45:08
  Minus the Cybertruck.
• 45:09
  The Teslas look better when they're self driving away from
• 45:13
  you, than they do coming head on.
• 45:15
  Like from the front, they're all like duck billed platypuses.
• 45:18
  But the back of the Teslas are not bad looking at all.
• 45:21
  Like it's got a nice derriere.
• 45:23
  Minus the Cybertruck.
• 45:24
  Got a nice butthole.
• 45:27
  Such childish nonsense.
• 45:29
  Open butthole.
• 45:30
  Yeah, I mean they look good from behind.
• 45:32
  I just wish they would fix the front.
• 45:34
  Now I have seen a couple of the remodeled Model 3s on the road.
• 45:38
  But I'm not convinced.
• 45:40
  It's way too angular, and then they left the back the way it was.
• 45:44
  When I saw it for the first time in person, there was a guy sitting
• 45:47
  at a traffic light, so I was walking, so I was able to really
• 45:50
  kind of like, absorb the look.
• 45:52
  At first glance, I was like, is that the new Prius?
• 45:54
  Because the Prius has that kind of angular with the drawn out lights.
• 45:58
  And then I went, oh no, that's the new Model 3.
• 46:01
  And so, I don't know, they're doing something funny with the design there.
• 46:04
  It's better, but worse, but better.
• 46:06
  I don't know how to describe it.
• 46:08
  But the Roadster's cool.
• 46:09
  I gotta bring this up.
• 46:10
  And I said we were gonna do this.
• 46:12
  It was gonna happen.
• 46:13
  We needed to stay tuned.
• 46:15
  We're talking rocket launchers.
• 46:16
  We're talking ridiculousness.
• 46:18
  We're talking explosions.
• 46:19
  Fall guy level stupidity.
• 46:22
  Remember when I brought up our favorite internet idiot, Whistlin Diesel, and how
• 46:26
  he was gonna battle test a Cybertruck?
• 46:29
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:30
  Did you guys watch the video?
• 46:31
  It's out!
• 46:32
  I did.
• 46:33
  I watched that video and the follow up update about the trailer hitch.
• 46:37
  Well, I didn't watch that one, so you'll have to tell me about it.
• 46:39
  But let's talk about the big It's a long video.
• 46:43
  It's like a half hour.
• 46:44
  I never watched anything from that guy other than maybe like five seconds.
• 46:50
  Is he the one that did like wagon wheels on a Charger or something?
• 46:54
  Yes.
• 46:54
  He's also the one that took a hacksaw to a Ferrari.
• 46:57
  Oh yeah.
• 46:58
  So I've seen like 20 seconds.
• 46:59
  So I watched the whole thing though.
• 47:01
  It was very enlightening.
• 47:03
  And that's his shtick, right?
• 47:05
  Some of the tests were just ludicrous, meaningless.
• 47:09
  I'm like, okay, so you backed a vehicle off of a flatbed truck
• 47:15
  without lowering the flatbed.
• 47:18
  One of those vehicles has a completely flat underpan that's reinforced because
• 47:24
  of the batteries it's protecting.
• 47:26
  The other vehicle has an exposed drivetrain that you dropped the
• 47:31
  weight of itself on and then ripped itself off the back of a metal plate
• 47:37
  and then were like shocked that the central drive axle, uh, broke.
• 47:43
  But okay, but let's take that the other direction and say the cyber truck split in
• 47:47
  half and then caught on fire and you could look at the F 150 and go, well, the draft
• 47:52
  shaft was the only thing I was impressed that there wasn't that we know of.
• 47:56
  Structural damage to the batteries good on them that they made a really, really thick
• 48:01
  skid plate under there, protect them.
• 48:03
  They make aftermarket skid plates that would fix that issue for people
• 48:07
  that all the roads and stuff for, call it 1, 500 protect the drive
• 48:10
  shaft, protect the entire drive train, oil pan engine, everything you can
• 48:14
  front to back skid plates, the diff.
• 48:16
  I mean, You can reinforce that stuff to where it would pass
• 48:20
  that stupid test if you had to.
• 48:21
  So the ludicrous part is, who's driving the vehicles in this manner?
• 48:25
  Like, it's an unrealistic test that really proves nothing kind of thing.
• 48:29
  Like, that doesn't tell me that the Cybertruck is more superior than an F 150.
• 48:34
  It's a dumb test.
• 48:35
  It does point out like, okay, good.
• 48:37
  I feel good about the skid plate on that Tesla.
• 48:39
  They abused the hell out of both of these trucks.
• 48:42
  Let's just talk about some of the other tests.
• 48:44
  I thought were kind of interesting.
• 48:46
  I cringed with the frunk thing.
• 48:49
  I can't believe he stuck his hand in there.
• 48:51
  Oh my God.
• 48:52
  I wanted to see the Ford version of that test.
• 48:56
  He didn't show it because the Ford most certainly would have cut off
• 48:58
  his fingers because it's mechanical.
• 49:01
  It's not, there's a manual.
• 49:02
  There's no electronic control.
• 49:04
  The hood is just the hood.
• 49:05
  You slam the thing is modern cars have been designed so that even if
• 49:11
  you were to close the door, like on a kid's hand, the way it goes
• 49:14
  in and closes, there's that cavity.
• 49:16
  And the hoods are the same way.
• 49:18
  Yeah.
• 49:18
  An old like Pontiac Bonneville from the seventies would cut your fingers off.
• 49:22
  Right.
• 49:22
  But new cars are actually kind of design where.
• 49:25
  It'll stop, but the Tesla, that frunk just kept closing because it's electronic.
• 49:30
  And it was like, and you could see him.
• 49:32
  I don't know how he didn't bust his hand because that looked way painful.
• 49:36
  It was bleeding.
• 49:37
  Yeah, it was awful.
• 49:38
  I was like, I would have done that with something else.
• 49:40
  I would have done that with like a carrot assistant.
• 49:44
  His assistant.
• 49:45
  Yeah, exactly.
• 49:46
  A lot of the video was very jackass to me.
• 49:48
  Yes.
• 49:49
  I've never seen jackass, but yes.
• 49:53
  I know enough of it, but yes.
• 49:55
  Well, nobody was stapling themselves to other selves and things like that, but.
• 49:59
  So the aha moments that lead to the end conclusion.
• 50:04
  I thought so when they did the slamming of the doors.
• 50:07
  Okay.
• 50:08
  So they were
• 50:10
  We give credit where credit's due we want to start there.
• 50:13
  So a the skid plate underneath is pretty strong.
• 50:17
  So his apocalyptic proclamations Apparently seemed to be accurate
• 50:23
  because they ignited c4 on the body panels And like, they've only dented.
• 50:30
  Okay.
• 50:31
  The stainless steel is pretty strong.
• 50:33
  To that point, Ford made the change a few years ago to aluminum body panels, but
• 50:39
  GM and Dodge, Poyota, and like other big truck, they still use steel body panels.
• 50:45
  So I think had it been another manufacturer, it may have
• 50:48
  been a different result.
• 50:49
  Ford is the one that went to aluminum.
• 50:52
  It would be interesting to see.
• 50:53
  What that same test would be on, not that Ford truck.
• 50:57
  Right.
• 50:58
  What was the other one?
• 50:58
  The beating of the car on the glass?
• 51:01
  When they brought out all the other YouTube jabronis,
• 51:04
  I thought that was stupid.
• 51:05
  So even though he said, I do all the exact same tests on both the cars, they
• 51:08
  didn't do that one on the Ford truck.
• 51:10
  They didn't do the same beating.
• 51:12
  They couldn't because the windows were already destroyed.
• 51:15
  Whatever, they could have gotten another door and done it.
• 51:17
  We've seen other videos where, oh, you threw, like, a brick at a glass
• 51:22
  of, like, a Volkswagen, and it didn't break, and they threw the brick
• 51:24
  at a glass of, like, a Cybertruck or something, and it did break.
• 51:28
  So, like, what's the story here?
• 51:30
  Illusion.
• 51:30
  So those were, like, the good things of it, I guess.
• 51:32
  Like, wow, impressed.
• 51:34
  Now the horrific things, which was insane, was, like, The second thing they did,
• 51:39
  I don't even remember what it was, but they drove it off the side of the hill
• 51:43
  and then it got implanted in the mud.
• 51:45
  He used a ford to tow it out.
• 51:47
  Tow it out?
• 51:48
  Or no, he got stuck, they pulled him out, and then he went and
• 51:50
  repeated the same thing and ended up implanting the ford or something.
• 51:54
  Oh, no, no, no.
• 51:55
  That's not when he did it.
• 51:56
  It was when he was doing that pothole test and they had those
• 51:59
  big like six foot diameter.
• 52:01
  Yeah, they drove over the cylinders.
• 52:03
  And they drove the Ford up, beached itself basically like
• 52:06
  it hit in between the wheels and then didn't have traction to go.
• 52:09
  So they backed the Tesla up to pull it down like off the ramp off these things.
• 52:13
  And in doing so, they ripped the frame, like, you even can call it a
• 52:18
  frame, but it just ripped the rear end, and he was beside himself, and
• 52:23
  rightfully so, because it was like, how can you tow with this thing?
• 52:26
  It was held together like caca underneath.
• 52:30
  There was no reinforcement.
• 52:33
  It was like, it all goes downhill from there on build quality.
• 52:36
  Yeah, and he said himself, he's like, it's rated for 10, 000 pounds.
• 52:39
  He's like, this is just normal truck stuff.
• 52:42
  Truck pulling another truck that got stuck like you're off roading.
• 52:44
  I don't know how it passed any of these towing tests if it couldn't even
• 52:48
  pull a truck off a ramp or whatever.
• 52:51
  It's an aluminum frame and it probably cracked during one of the other tests.
• 52:55
  And then that test just, that's maybe fair, but still that's what
• 52:59
  the second video was about because he received a lot of hate mail from
• 53:03
  Tesla fan people cultists about, Oh, the Ford's frame would crack in half.
• 53:08
  It would break in half and the truck would destroy itself.
• 53:10
  Blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 53:12
  So they did a repeated, like they had an excavator.
• 53:15
  Lift the rear end of the Ford truck up and they dropped it on
• 53:19
  concrete bricks, like 50 times.
• 53:21
  It did eventually bend the frame.
• 53:24
  They just dropped some real heavy concrete on top of it to
• 53:27
  straighten the frame back out.
• 53:28
  It never broke though.
• 53:29
  It just bent the frame and you could still drive the truck away.
• 53:33
  But again, this is another issue between steel, which now in this
• 53:37
  particular test, the Ford has the steel and the Tesla has the aluminum.
• 53:41
  Well, here's where I'd call bullcrap on these people.
• 53:43
  They got up in arms about it.
• 53:45
  He did the exact same stunts with both of them and the Ford
• 53:49
  was able to tow the Tesla.
• 53:51
  When it got stuck.
• 53:52
  So they both came off the back of that flat bed without pulling the ramp down.
• 53:56
  They both shot off the side of a thing.
• 53:59
  They, they both did the same thing and the board could still tow.
• 54:02
  It didn't rip its rear end out.
• 54:03
  Exactly.
• 54:04
  And that's what the second video kind of was about.
• 54:07
  This is a very important lesson.
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  Both trucks use a mixture of both types of materials in different ways.
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  And I feel like the Ford.
• 54:17
  Used the appropriate materials in the appropriate places, right?
• 54:22
  Much rather have a hole in my tailgate than my 10, 000 pound load going down the
• 54:27
  road next to me because the hitch came.
• 54:29
  Well, it wouldn't be going down the road next to you because the battery charging
• 54:33
  system was a complete farce as we saw.
• 54:35
  Also, how much time did he spend at the charger?
• 54:38
  Oh my goodness.
• 54:39
  And then how many times did it brick itself that he had issues and he's
• 54:42
  on the phone with Tesla support?
• 54:44
  Well, I'm sure a lot of that was due to whatever sensors and
• 54:47
  whatnot going absolutely bonkers by the abuse that it was taking.
• 54:50
  It had no idea.
• 54:51
  I probably thought it was like upside down and you know, God knows where.
• 54:54
  So the other highlights just go back to the build quality.
• 54:58
  We've already heard about the tonneau cover.
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  Oh my gosh.
• 55:01
  The duct tape.
• 55:02
  Oh my God.
• 55:03
  Yeah.
• 55:03
  The washers, the duct tape.
• 55:04
  The fact that he could just pull trim pieces off because they
• 55:07
  were like hot glued on basically.
• 55:10
  Yeah.
• 55:10
  It was just glue holding all these trim pieces on.
• 55:13
  It was so hilarious when he's rips like the fender off.
• 55:16
  He's like, let me see if I can rip the fender of this Ford off.
• 55:19
  Oh, wait, I can't.
• 55:21
  It's one piece.
• 55:25
  And then when he slammed the doors.
• 55:27
  And the interior came off.
• 55:29
  That was wild.
• 55:29
  The interior panels came apart.
• 55:31
  That was wild.
• 55:31
  That is not a test I would do to any car.
• 55:34
  That's also like, really aggressive because nobody's
• 55:37
  gonna slam their door that hard.
• 55:39
  I don't know, I've been pretty mad.
• 55:42
  I've broken many a window regulator in a Mark IV Volkswagen from my anger.
• 55:47
  So at the end of the day, again, we're talking about the hate, there's a second
• 55:51
  video now, all this kind of stuff.
• 55:52
  So we fast forward to the end.
• 55:53
  We talked about at the beginning with this driveshaft and the, you know, the Ford
• 55:57
  fails right away, but the fix was what?
• 55:59
  700 bucks or something with labor?
• 56:02
  900.
• 56:03
  Yeah.
• 56:03
  To change the driveshaft.
• 56:05
  But at the end of all that abuse, a Ford drove away and the Cybertruck
• 56:09
  was brought in on a trailer, bricked.
• 56:12
  And I'd love to see what happened behind closed doors when they brought that
• 56:15
  Cybertruck into the Tesla facility because At some point they did talk about The
• 56:20
  current repair bill for the cyber truck.
• 56:23
  And I think it was like 15, 000 or something like that.
• 56:26
  That seems low.
• 56:27
  No way.
• 56:28
  But if they also weren't done with it yet.
• 56:30
  Although glue doesn't cost that much, maybe duct tape and glue.
• 56:34
  You get a lot of duct tape.
• 56:36
  I just want to bring up one more thing.
• 56:38
  Gas pedal test.
• 56:40
  There was no rivets that was going to fix that problem.
• 56:44
  That was also ludicrous and wildly aggressive.
• 56:48
  That's what they mean, ludicrous mode.
• 56:50
  It's like meaningless test.
• 56:52
  It's not a meaningless test though because the Ford could take the abuse.
• 56:56
  That's what the point is.
• 56:57
  But you don't need, it doesn't need to take that abuse.
• 57:01
  On the one hand, it's not that Ford did anything special because
• 57:04
  pedal technology is how old?
• 57:10
  When your pedal assembly is made by Logitech, and that's part of the criticism
• 57:14
  and the problem with Tesla to begin with, is they're trying to reinvent
• 57:17
  the wheel when if it ain't broke.
• 57:19
  You don't need to fix it just for the sake of fixing it.
• 57:22
  Things have been a certain way for a certain, for a really long time
• 57:26
  because they just, it just works.
• 57:27
  Well, they've been proven to work in that way.
• 57:30
  And that's why I say Tesla is a software company, not a car company,
• 57:34
  even though they're making cars.
• 57:35
  I get that.
• 57:36
  You don't have to explain it to me.
• 57:37
  But the point is that thinking that reinventing of a new way of
• 57:42
  doing something is very critical.
• 57:43
  Software minded.
• 57:45
  Instead of hitting ctrl p to print you hit ctrl lock screen upside down
• 57:50
  triangle and then bounce on your nose three times and then it prints.
• 57:54
  Well what was wrong with ctrl p?
• 57:55
  The pedal design in the ford is very robust.
• 57:59
  I would be curious if you did that same test in something say a mini.
• 58:04
  It has the pedal mounted to the floor.
• 58:06
  Would it hold up or would it do the same thing that Tesla did?
• 58:09
  I guarantee it'll hold up.
• 58:10
  Probably, because it wouldn't be made out of cheap plastic.
• 58:13
  Your mom has a Mini.
• 58:14
  You should go test this theory.
• 58:15
  Yeah, let's go break mom's uh, Mini.
• 58:17
  Make your own YouTube video and go test this.
• 58:19
  Sam's got a Mini.
• 58:20
  Yeah, go down the road to Sam's house.
• 58:22
  Instead of watching the second Cybertruck Whistle and Diesel video, what I watched
• 58:27
  instead was Tanya's recommendation of Top Gear's James May reviewing and driving
• 58:33
  the Cybertruck for the first time.
• 58:34
  Oh, do you mean his, uh, what was it, whiskey?
• 58:36
  Or what was he selling?
• 58:37
  James Gin.
• 58:38
  Yeah, James Gin.
• 58:39
  His gin commercial?
• 58:41
  Self promotion, yeah.
• 58:42
  He had nothing but positive things.
• 58:45
  To say about the Cybertruck and this and that it was very top gear esque.
• 58:49
  Well, I was surprised how like positive it was.
• 58:51
  Yeah.
• 58:52
  Well, he's a bit of a, a techie kind of person.
• 58:55
  Well, he also owns a Tesla now.
• 58:57
  So for him, so he's, it was a bit biased.
• 58:59
  It was, but it wasn't biased when he started talking about the panel
• 59:03
  gaps and the panel alignment.
• 59:06
  And the finish, it was just like, wow, the straight edge thing, right Tanya?
• 59:12
  Yeah, the ruler measuring.
• 59:14
  But then he tried to say that they did that on purpose because of the glare
• 59:17
  and the angles and all that stuff.
• 59:19
  So he tried to play it off as that it was done on purpose.
• 59:21
  No, and then the hilarious part when he put the bottle on it the one time
• 59:24
  and then he put it on the same spot and then it would move and then it
• 59:27
  was like, what a joke, what a mess.
• 59:29
  I didn't give too much credit to that.
• 59:30
  No, because he didn't stress test it in any way.
• 59:33
  You know, that was a press car.
• 59:34
  He's driving around.
• 59:35
  He's just giving his opinion.
• 59:36
  Rah, rah, rah, Tesla.
• 59:37
  Okay, fine.
• 59:38
  Sure.
• 59:39
  So it was, it was interesting to see like the other end of the pendulum swing.
• 59:42
  I didn't expect James to be so kind because he can be very direct.
• 59:47
  I would have expected a lot more if it was Jeremy Clarkson, he probably
• 59:50
  would have ripped it to shreds, not literally like whistling diesel did.
• 59:53
  But, you know, he would have had not so kind things to say about it.
• 59:56
  Then again, that's why he stopped doing the Grand Tour, right?
• 59:59
  He's not interested in electrofecals.
• 1:00:00
  He doesn't want to talk about them.
• 1:00:01
  They're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:00:02
  The excuses that he gave for leaving.
• 1:00:04
  That's that.
• 1:00:05
  I just thought it was good to go back because we said we were going to watch it.
• 1:00:08
  I wanted to get your guys opinion.
• 1:00:09
  This is the first time I've sat through a Whistle and Diesel video in its entirety.
• 1:00:14
  And I was hooked because I think what he did, it was truth.
• 1:00:18
  So we're still talking about Tesla.
• 1:00:20
  Which would be haunting, I guess.
• 1:00:22
  You had one of these pull up behind you with the red and blue flashing, right?
• 1:00:26
  We're in California again.
• 1:00:28
  So there's police department there that unveiled a cyber truck cruiser.
• 1:00:33
  I don't think they're actually going to use it.
• 1:00:35
  It's more, I think maybe just promotional type police vehicle, not
• 1:00:39
  one that's actually going to be used to actually go out and fight crime.
• 1:00:43
  So to speak like the Wraith.
• 1:00:46
  Nonetheless, California's taxpayer dollars went to getting this
• 1:00:50
  Cybertruck at their local precinct.
• 1:00:52
  Outfitted as a police interceptor.
• 1:00:55
  It's only being used for community outreach.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah, because they're afraid if they got to do a pit maneuver in
• 1:00:59
  this thing, it's going to fall apart and crumple like a soda can.
• 1:01:02
  Right?
• 1:01:03
  The risk to the officer would be quite high if they were involved in a high
• 1:01:08
  speed chase that ended in a crash.
• 1:01:10
  We've all seen those Florida Man videos and chases.
• 1:01:13
  I don't think you could do that with a Cybertruck.
• 1:01:15
  You could do it with an Ultima.
• 1:01:16
  Yeah, damn right.
• 1:01:18
  As we saw in the Whistling Diesel video, it'll get itself in like, planted in mud.
• 1:01:24
  Just don't go off road with it.
• 1:01:27
  What was the other thing he had to like, activate his subscription
• 1:01:29
  for the four wheel differential?
• 1:01:32
  For the Diff Lock, yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Oh yeah, that was insane.
• 1:01:36
  It's insane.
• 1:01:37
  Ugh.
• 1:01:38
  At least you know when you're being shot at, after a drug bust goes
• 1:01:41
  bad, you're going to be protected.
• 1:01:43
  That is true.
• 1:01:44
  That is true.
• 1:01:44
  They could use it as a riot vehicle is what we learned.
• 1:01:47
  So.
• 1:01:48
  A riot with some very poor attempts to destroy it.
• 1:01:53
  Well that rounds out probably our episode.
• 1:01:55
  Longest showcase, but I don't think we're done with haunting topics as we
• 1:01:59
  go along here But we are gonna switch to our regularly scheduled ranting and
• 1:02:02
  raving and bring you some new stuff.
• 1:02:04
  Porsche, Audi, and Volkswagen Redefining literally reinventing the engine.
• 1:02:10
  I rank this six stroke right up there with the Wankel also known
• 1:02:14
  as the rotary All the RX 7 people know what I'm talking about.
• 1:02:17
  I watched this video.
• 1:02:19
  It was In lightning and all I came away from it after half an hour was intake
• 1:02:24
  compression combustion compression combustion exhaust That's how it works.
• 1:02:29
  So it's got this weirdly spirograph system where it does a double compression
• 1:02:34
  combustion stroke, supposedly, you know, the benefits of a two stroke with
• 1:02:39
  the benefits of a four stroke, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:02:42
  And the punchline is why is Porsche reinventing the wheel?
• 1:02:45
  Or the engine in this case, when Europe is pushing to have all EVs
• 1:02:50
  by like 2035 or whatever it is.
• 1:02:52
  So I think they're betting the farm on this new engine, has some really
• 1:02:56
  interesting techniques in it that would take advantage of the new
• 1:02:59
  synthetic fuels that they're creating.
• 1:03:02
  But.
• 1:03:03
  If you are not into math and science, I don't recommend watching this video, but
• 1:03:09
  I found it fascinating because I'm a nerd.
• 1:03:11
  So that's that.
• 1:03:12
  Why is he spending five minutes telling us how to say the word?
• 1:03:14
  Oh yeah.
• 1:03:15
  I was so turned off by that.
• 1:03:19
  I was like, who cares?
• 1:03:20
  But I do like how he ended it.
• 1:03:21
  He goes this way.
• 1:03:22
  I put to bed all of your comments about how I pronounce it and we can move on
• 1:03:26
  with life, but that was pretty good.
• 1:03:27
  All right.
• 1:03:28
  So Asian domestic news, Honda is putting out their GR 86
• 1:03:33
  competitor, also known as Quaalude.
• 1:03:35
  I mean the prelude, but isn't it going to be electric?
• 1:03:38
  Isn't it going to be front wheel drive?
• 1:03:39
  Yeah, it's hybrid front wheel drive.
• 1:03:41
  Isn't it going to be the size of an accord?
• 1:03:43
  Basically it's going to be the replacement for the two door Accord they used to make.
• 1:03:46
  That's what it looks like to me.
• 1:03:47
  I think you hit the nail right on the head.
• 1:03:49
  It's just an Integra with the Honda badge instead.
• 1:03:54
  Blasphemer!
• 1:03:54
  But it's two door.
• 1:03:56
  It's a two door Integra.
• 1:03:57
  Integra.
• 1:03:58
  It's ugly.
• 1:03:59
  Which they used to make.
• 1:04:00
  That weird grill.
• 1:04:01
  What is that?
• 1:04:02
  That's like the Prius thing.
• 1:04:03
  No, when you said it's a CR Z.
• 1:04:06
  That's the front end of a CR Z.
• 1:04:09
  That little weird nub nose.
• 1:04:11
  No, but then it's got like a dual lip.
• 1:04:13
  It's got fish lips like the new Ferraris, right?
• 1:04:16
  They have that kind of thing going on there.
• 1:04:17
  That's what they're doing.
• 1:04:18
  But it looks good on a Ferrari.
• 1:04:19
  It doesn't look good on this.
• 1:04:20
  This is ugly.
• 1:04:21
  Oh, it doesn't.
• 1:04:22
  Whatever.
• 1:04:22
  I mean, Honda fans are going to go nuts.
• 1:04:24
  The Prelude is coming back.
• 1:04:25
  I mean, Brian Schott will buy one right away, right?
• 1:04:27
  But I don't get it.
• 1:04:28
  If we do see one going down the road, we're going to be like, Oh, that's nice.
• 1:04:31
  You're not going to know what it was.
• 1:04:32
  No, you're not.
• 1:04:33
  And then the thing is you're never going to see one because who's buying
• 1:04:36
  two door sports coupes anymore.
• 1:04:37
  Nobody.
• 1:04:38
  So, I don't understand why Honda's even bothering with this.
• 1:04:41
  If you really want it to be something awesome, it shouldn't be an EV.
• 1:04:44
  It should have a manual.
• 1:04:45
  It should have the same power plant as the Honda Type R Civic.
• 1:04:49
  It should just be that with two doors.
• 1:04:50
  It should be a two door Civic, but instead it's whatever this thing is.
• 1:04:54
  Moving on.
• 1:04:55
  Toyota.
• 1:04:55
  We haven't talked enough about Toyota, right Tanya?
• 1:04:57
  Nope.
• 1:04:57
  So they have revealed that they will be joining TC America Series.
• 1:05:03
  SRO baby!
• 1:05:04
  With their 2025 GR Corolla.
• 1:05:07
  They're gonna kick butt with this thing.
• 1:05:09
  It's gonna be awesome.
• 1:05:10
  Should be interesting.
• 1:05:11
  This car is the hotness.
• 1:05:13
  I kind of wonder what the balance of performance is gonna be like for this.
• 1:05:16
  As we know, Brad, BOP is all over SRO.
• 1:05:19
  This is gonna be competing with the HPD civics.
• 1:05:22
  This is gonna be competing with the Hyundais, the smaller BMWs, all that
• 1:05:25
  kind of stuff in GT America series, the GR three cylinder turbo 300 horsepower.
• 1:05:30
  I think they're gonna have to detune that 'cause a lot of those cars are running
• 1:05:34
  under 300 horsepower in that class.
• 1:05:36
  Or they would add weight.
• 1:05:37
  They'd add weight.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:05:39
  It's exciting for next year to see the hatchbacks out there
• 1:05:42
  kicking butt in touring car.
• 1:05:43
  So they haven't said what the horsepower will be on the 2025s.
• 1:05:47
  They haven't unveiled that yet.
• 1:05:48
  The only thing they've said is they'll make 290 foot pounds of torque.
• 1:05:51
  Out of a three cylinder.
• 1:05:52
  Damn.
• 1:05:53
  I'd take one of these left over after a couple years of
• 1:05:56
  being beat on the racetrack.
• 1:05:57
  I'm good with it.
• 1:05:58
  And they're only 150, 000 when they're used.
• 1:06:01
  Yeah, and they haven't announced the pricing of it either.
• 1:06:04
  So we'll see what the production version comes out to be.
• 1:06:08
  We know what the Maritzo version or whatever is like 50 grand.
• 1:06:13
  Race cars open your wallet.
• 1:06:14
  I mean, there is just That's not even this level because this is
• 1:06:17
  already, you know, a step above that.
• 1:06:19
  No, what you do is you find a sponsor.
• 1:06:21
  Well, this is not street legal.
• 1:06:22
  So 100 percent right.
• 1:06:25
  Still kind of in the camp of Asian domestic news.
• 1:06:28
  Remember when we used to do that wheel segment for a while there, you know, it
• 1:06:32
  kind of popped its head up the other day because I was again in the city walking
• 1:06:35
  around, I get to see a bunch of different cars that you just wouldn't normally
• 1:06:38
  see from the headquarters office, right?
• 1:06:40
  I had made a statement on a previous drive thru that all Hyundais and
• 1:06:44
  Kias, they have the ugliest wheels on the road, like full stop, right?
• 1:06:47
  They're just heinous looking.
• 1:06:48
  But I stumbled across.
• 1:06:50
  What I didn't realize was basically the end of the line of the previous
• 1:06:55
  generation Hyundai Santa Fe.
• 1:06:57
  And so it's a Hyundai Santa Fe Sport.
• 1:06:59
  I looked at these wheels and I said, man, these are absolutely inspired.
• 1:07:03
  These are GTI quality wheels.
• 1:07:06
  I think they'd look really good on something else because that's a, you
• 1:07:08
  know, a CUV, SUV or whatever have you.
• 1:07:11
  But then I realized because that was the end of the Santa Fe line, I had to kind
• 1:07:15
  of take back my statement and say, Okay.
• 1:07:17
  They do have a good looking wheel, they don't have the ugliest wheels, but now
• 1:07:21
  they have one of the ugliest SUVs on the road because the new Santa Fe is heinous.
• 1:07:26
  Have you guys seen this thing?
• 1:07:27
  I think they have like a basketball personality doing like this commercial
• 1:07:30
  like, uh, he's got his brown Hyundai Santa Fe running around.
• 1:07:33
  It's very square, very digital looking, like very 80s.
• 1:07:36
  But the wheels are nice.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  The new Santa Fe reminds me a lot of the old Azuzu Axiom.
• 1:07:44
  Ooh.
• 1:07:45
  If you remember what those look like.
• 1:07:47
  I do.
• 1:07:47
  Those were not nice either.
• 1:07:49
  No, it's they look identical.
• 1:07:51
  You would see that meme of Jenna Fisher from the office sitting in the
• 1:07:56
  boardroom saying it's the same vehicle.
• 1:07:58
  It's the same picture.
• 1:07:59
  It did send me down a little bit of a weird rabbit hole, kind of looking
• 1:08:02
  at Hyundais and trying to understand what car this was and the wheel
• 1:08:06
  package and all this kind of thing.
• 1:08:07
  Although I saw the badging on the back of the car, it didn't really dawn on me until
• 1:08:10
  I was yet again inside the configurator.
• 1:08:13
  As you guys remember, that was a fun experiment too.
• 1:08:16
  The Santa Fe had a 1.
• 1:08:17
  6 turbo for a while, then it had a two liter turbo.
• 1:08:20
  Now it's got a two and a half liter turbo and that exists
• 1:08:23
  on the new ugly one as well.
• 1:08:25
  I was like, wow, when did Hyundai step up their four cylinder?
• 1:08:28
  And when is that motor going to get dropped into more stuff?
• 1:08:31
  It's making 277 pound feet of torquems.
• 1:08:36
  And I know it didn't make our 50, 000 millennial grade challenge, but it doesn't
• 1:08:40
  come with all wheel drive standard.
• 1:08:42
  It only comes with fun wheel drive for all those 311 torquems.
• 1:08:46
  So that's not fun.
• 1:08:47
  If you do add all wheel drive to a Santa Fe.
• 1:08:50
  Going back to that list, it comes in around 40k.
• 1:08:53
  So it's another contender on our list of under 50k.
• 1:08:57
  What would you buy with almost 300 horsepower?
• 1:09:00
  I was like, that's not bad.
• 1:09:01
  So good job Hyundai for stepping up your four cylinder game.
• 1:09:03
  Now put that in a Veloster.
• 1:09:07
  Now for some random new EVs and concepts.
• 1:09:09
  So in the spirit of Halloween, apparently Rivian's feeling a little bit fun and
• 1:09:15
  they have a software update that you can do for all the consoles inside that give
• 1:09:19
  you an option for three different themes.
• 1:09:22
  One being Kit's theme from Knight Rider.
• 1:09:25
  So cool.
• 1:09:26
  Another being the Back to the Future DeLorean interior theme.
• 1:09:31
  Still cool.
• 1:09:32
  And the third is the most Halloween y one, I guess.
• 1:09:35
  It's this kind of bizarre, spooky ish color haze thing that it does.
• 1:09:41
  And then this silhouette of like a Yeti going across your screens or whatever.
• 1:09:44
  That one was okay.
• 1:09:46
  But the Back to the Future one with the time all in the center console,
• 1:09:50
  like when you set the date and all that, like it was really cool.
• 1:09:53
  And even like, you know, the old school Knight Rider, very Audi digital dash.
• 1:09:58
  Yeah, it was.
• 1:09:59
  Oh my god.
• 1:10:01
  It was bringing memories back.
• 1:10:02
  I love it though.
• 1:10:03
  I think this is cool.
• 1:10:04
  This is the kind of stuff if you're going to have screens in the car, give me
• 1:10:08
  these kinds of options and then put Mr.
• 1:10:10
  Feeney's voice in there.
• 1:10:11
  Right?
• 1:10:12
  Hello, Michael.
• 1:10:13
  That's pretty cool.
• 1:10:15
  Not that garbage we got from Volkswagen where it's like, make your
• 1:10:18
  2024 GTI feel like a 1963 beetle.
• 1:10:21
  Like why?
• 1:10:22
  I don't care.
• 1:10:22
  That's lame.
• 1:10:23
  This is cool.
• 1:10:24
  This is what our generation wants.
• 1:10:26
  Now I would like the L cars Version dashboard from Star Trek.
• 1:10:31
  That'd be cool with the sounds too.
• 1:10:32
  When you hit the beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, switch it to Cardassian.
• 1:10:36
  Really cool.
• 1:10:36
  Deep space nine action there.
• 1:10:37
  I like Rivians.
• 1:10:38
  Yeah, they're pretty neat.
• 1:10:39
  I see a lot of them down here.
• 1:10:41
  You see a lot of them.
• 1:10:41
  If you see Amazon delivery trucks.
• 1:10:43
  Well, speaking of seeing things, anybody been watching Emily in Paris?
• 1:10:48
  I know it's a stretch, not the latest season.
• 1:10:50
  I haven't seen the latest season yet.
• 1:10:52
  Okay.
• 1:10:52
  Well, I took a screenshot for you guys and then we'll have it up on our website.
• 1:10:56
  I'm not giving any spoilers away.
• 1:10:57
  It's just sort of like a thing that they did on one of the episodes.
• 1:11:01
  There's this photo shoot.
• 1:11:02
  Everything Mazar, Who some of you might remember from Entourage.
• 1:11:08
  She was also Medusa in Chaos, if you watched that, and a bunch of other stuff.
• 1:11:12
  So she has a very 1930s look to her, right?
• 1:11:16
  Especially when she puts her hair up and they dress her up
• 1:11:18
  and all those kinds of things.
• 1:11:19
  So they did this very cool Inception commercial inside of the show.
• 1:11:24
  And because it's Paris, it was Renault, and it was shot in black and white.
• 1:11:27
  You know, you always see those, like, Dior commercials are like this, where they're
• 1:11:31
  in black and white, and then something suddenly pops in color, and there you go.
• 1:11:35
  So she comes out and there's all this paparazzi and da, da, da, da, boom.
• 1:11:38
  The only shot of color is a bright yellow, like my shirt, brand new Renault
• 1:11:45
  R5 EV, I stopped, soaked it all in.
• 1:11:48
  I took a screenshot of it.
• 1:11:49
  As you guys can see, this is not just fire.
• 1:11:52
  This is hot fire.
• 1:11:53
  This thing is so cool.
• 1:11:55
  Please Renault, make this car.
• 1:11:58
  Make this car and only sell it in your country.
• 1:12:01
  Stop, why did, why did you have to do that to me?
• 1:12:03
  That way Eric can buy one in 25 years.
• 1:12:05
  That's the reality that we live in.
• 1:12:08
  I urge you guys, if you watch Emily in Paris and you get to that episode,
• 1:12:12
  it's towards the end of the season.
• 1:12:13
  Again, I don't want to give any spoilers away.
• 1:12:15
  Just rewind it, watch it again.
• 1:12:17
  I did that several times.
• 1:12:19
  It's really cool.
• 1:12:20
  This thing is really, really neat.
• 1:12:21
  And she gets in it and she drives away.
• 1:12:23
  So you get to see it from all the different angles and I mean,
• 1:12:26
  obviously it's whisper quiet, but still just this modern retro R5 with
• 1:12:32
  big wide haunches and everything.
• 1:12:34
  It just looks really, really epic.
• 1:12:36
  Talking about more retro designs from Renault, last month we talked about
• 1:12:40
  their idea of calling back the R17.
• 1:12:43
  Which, there's a couple Datsuns that look like that, and the Saab, Saab
• 1:12:47
  Sonnet, and a bunch of other cars that have a similar shape to the R17.
• 1:12:51
  Well, as much as there was a big hub a loo about it on the internet, Renault
• 1:12:55
  officially came out with a statement saying, for those who remember the
• 1:12:59
  R17, we've given you everything that you love, and for those who could
• 1:13:03
  care less, it's just a nice car.
• 1:13:05
  And what they mean by that statement, all kind of wrapped up in that sentiment, is
• 1:13:08
  that they're not going to make the R17.
• 1:13:11
  Again, the big question is, if that's your attitude with your retro
• 1:13:15
  cars, are you going to make the R5?
• 1:13:17
  No.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah, probably not.
• 1:13:18
  Even says that they're going to move away from retro designs.
• 1:13:22
  It's killing me.
• 1:13:22
  And by the way, the Alpine version of that R5 is freaking awesome too.
• 1:13:26
  And there's a couple of new Alpines coming out the three 90.
• 1:13:29
  Now we talked about the two 80 before that.
• 1:13:31
  And obviously the a one 10 GTs and awesome cars, stuff like that.
• 1:13:35
  There's a lot of motion and commotion going on at Renault.
• 1:13:37
  And the funny part is Renault parent company of Nissan.
• 1:13:41
  One of these things is not like the other.
• 1:13:44
  So Brad, lost and found.
• 1:13:45
  We got something on the pile here.
• 1:13:47
  This car speaks to me.
• 1:13:48
  What do we got?
• 1:13:49
  First CNC Motorsport Sierra RS500 was delivered.
• 1:13:53
  Just look at that.
• 1:13:54
  That is 80s at its finest right there.
• 1:13:57
  So imagine, you know, there's been a bunch of these, what do you want to call them?
• 1:14:00
  Tribute cars or halo cars, whatever it is, you know, like the whole singer effect.
• 1:14:05
  Take an old car, do everything you could possibly ever imagine you could
• 1:14:09
  do with it, with modern technology.
• 1:14:11
  We've seen this with Porsches.
• 1:14:12
  We've seen this with launches.
• 1:14:14
  We've seen this with other brands.
• 1:14:15
  And now there's a company CNC Motorsport getting into the Sierra RS500S Cosworth.
• 1:14:22
  And this thing's awesome.
• 1:14:24
  Right down to the gold basket weave BBS wheels.
• 1:14:27
  I mean, what is there not to like?
• 1:14:29
  I love the fact that it's got 575 horsepower from a two liter.
• 1:14:33
  Yes.
• 1:14:34
  Yes.
• 1:14:34
  Excellent.
• 1:14:35
  I didn't see a price, but I can only guess that it's six figures.
• 1:14:39
  I found a price.
• 1:14:40
  Uh oh.
• 1:14:41
  Prices for these cars start at 185 British pounds.
• 1:14:46
  Ah!
• 1:14:46
  I knew it.
• 1:14:48
  It was a hundred thousand plus dollars.
• 1:14:50
  Yikes.
• 1:14:51
  Tanya, would you buy one of these?
• 1:14:52
  Would you drive one of these?
• 1:14:53
  I mean, would I buy one?
• 1:14:56
  You don't buy anything.
• 1:14:57
  So what would you drive one?
• 1:14:58
  I mean, I would buy something else over this, but I would drive
• 1:15:01
  one if I had the opportunity.
• 1:15:03
  So cool.
• 1:15:04
  I'm not like in love with the aesthetics of it.
• 1:15:07
  Seeing that article kind of drove me down a rabbit hole on YouTube.
• 1:15:11
  And I was watching a bunch of videos about Delta integrales and I was doing
• 1:15:15
  some research for a rally project anyway, then group a and all that stuff.
• 1:15:19
  And so many different versions of the Delta HF Chris Harris bought an
• 1:15:23
  eight valve and Ben Collins bought a 16 valve turbo, and then he bought a
• 1:15:27
  Evo one and all this kind of thing.
• 1:15:29
  And then you learning the differences between all the variants
• 1:15:32
  of the HF and stuff like that.
• 1:15:33
  I'm like, I would love to import one of those.
• 1:15:37
  If we didn't talk about them enough, we would be remiss.
• 1:15:39
  Are we going back to Thesla?
• 1:15:44
  We got one more article.
• 1:15:46
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:15:47
  And it's a bit the hokey pokey.
• 1:15:49
  I don't even care or know what's real.
• 1:15:53
  I don't have a Cybertruck.
• 1:15:54
  I'm not trying to insure it with Geico.
• 1:15:56
  I'm never gonna have a Cybertruck.
• 1:15:59
  I'm never gonna try to insure it with Geico.
• 1:16:01
  So I honestly don't care if Geico wants to insure them or not.
• 1:16:06
  And that's the problem we've been seeing a lot lately.
• 1:16:09
  And it's not just this article.
• 1:16:10
  It's other ones where let's say Jalopnik says one thing and then
• 1:16:13
  motor one says the exact opposite.
• 1:16:15
  It's like on the same day and you're like, wait, what?
• 1:16:18
  And in this case, how much do you trust things you read on Reddit?
• 1:16:22
  That article starts Geico drops coverage for the cyber trucks.
• 1:16:24
  And then on the other side, the verge is saying, well, maybe not.
• 1:16:28
  Geico is not going to drop your cyber truck.
• 1:16:30
  We're going to continue to cover it.
• 1:16:32
  I guess buyer beware, do your homework first, figure out how much it's going
• 1:16:35
  to cost to insure one of these things.
• 1:16:37
  And if they're going to cover it, I think there's still a lot of changes yet
• 1:16:41
  to come in the insurance world when it comes to EVs, because I think there was
• 1:16:45
  a lot of unexpected consequences with these cars, how long it takes to fix
• 1:16:49
  them, how expensive they are to fix them.
• 1:16:51
  This isn't new.
• 1:16:52
  A few years ago, didn't Tesla come up with their own insurance Policy for
• 1:16:57
  their cars because other insurance companies were having a hard time pricing
• 1:17:02
  insurance policies for other Tesla models.
• 1:17:04
  So this isn't something that's new Geico is probably just the first to outright
• 1:17:08
  deny coverage, then just go to Tesla.
• 1:17:11
  I mean, if Tesla has an insurance company, that's going to insure it, then just
• 1:17:15
  do everything in the Tesla ecosystem.
• 1:17:18
  You buy the Tesla vehicle, you get the Tesla loan with the Tesla interest rate.
• 1:17:22
  You do the Tesla insurance.
• 1:17:24
  That's it.
• 1:17:24
  And you do the Tesla electricity.
• 1:17:26
  That's the Apple model.
• 1:17:27
  It's a software company model.
• 1:17:28
  And it keeps the money flowing internal to Tesla.
• 1:17:32
  Oh, shocking.
• 1:17:33
  How that works.
• 1:17:35
  This reminds me of the old coal towns where they paid you in chips.
• 1:17:40
  And then you use those chips at the coal company owned store and you
• 1:17:44
  lived in coal company owned housing.
• 1:17:46
  Robber barons.
• 1:17:47
  It's not what they were called.
• 1:17:49
  So anything else on the.
• 1:17:50
  Tesla docket there, Tonya?
• 1:17:52
  Well, for those who've been tracking, and they're super interested, they
• 1:17:56
  recently unveiled, earlier this month, the RoboTaxi and RoboVan.
• 1:18:02
  Autonomous.
• 1:18:03
  Johnny Cab.
• 1:18:05
  Speaking of which, they unveiled that, and now are being sued
• 1:18:11
  by The Blade Runner movie.
• 1:18:14
  Oh.
• 1:18:15
  Brilliant.
• 1:18:16
  Did he call it Johnny Cab on stage?
• 1:18:18
  Is that why?
• 1:18:19
  No, the production company is suing them, alleging that they created a lot of the
• 1:18:26
  stills and photos, basically generative AI taken from Blade Runner, essentially.
• 1:18:32
  So if you think it looks like something from Blade Runner, I
• 1:18:35
  think that's pretty intentional.
• 1:18:39
  Well, that's unfortunate.
• 1:18:40
  Did you guys see this about how Fisker abandoned their headquarters
• 1:18:44
  and left it in complete disarray, allegedly with hazardous waste and
• 1:18:49
  clay models and a bunch of other stuff just laying strewn about?
• 1:18:52
  Is that like when people get evicted out of their house and they're
• 1:18:55
  like, fuck you, I'm gonna take a sledgehammer to all my walls and I'm
• 1:18:58
  gonna shit in the middle of the floor.
• 1:19:00
  Bye!
• 1:19:01
  Was all this stuff put on the front lawn?
• 1:19:04
  I just want to know where all these Fisker Ocean people are going
• 1:19:10
  to get their EVs taken care of.
• 1:19:13
  They're going to take them to the scrapyard.
• 1:19:15
  It's a shame.
• 1:19:16
  I mean, we've seen it before with Fisker where it's like, well, this and
• 1:19:20
  that and the other thing, and are they going to make it in the solar roof?
• 1:19:22
  And didn't they collapse once and then came back and all this kind of thing?
• 1:19:26
  They've had a bit of a storied past, but it's like, Even when they came
• 1:19:31
  out with the Ocean, which is not a bad looking vehicle, it's just like,
• 1:19:34
  you kind of look at it and go, they're not going to be here in five years.
• 1:19:37
  There's just no way, they just don't have the infrastructure.
• 1:19:40
  I was sort of hoping that they would have gotten swallowed up by somebody else.
• 1:19:44
  They still have a website.
• 1:19:46
  What does that cost in them?
• 1:19:47
  20 bucks?
• 1:19:47
  You can save up to 24, 000 on a My 2023 Fisker Ocean.
• 1:19:52
  Go get your ocean right now.
• 1:19:53
  It's a 24, 000 discount.
• 1:19:56
  All sales final.
• 1:19:57
  Well, a little bit of racing.
• 1:19:59
  We know where to put this, right?
• 1:20:00
  Is this lowered expectations?
• 1:20:02
  Possibly.
• 1:20:03
  We all know rich people gonna do what rich people do.
• 1:20:07
  And Keanu, he knows Kung Fu, but did you know he knew how to drive?
• 1:20:11
  I feel like this is not news race car.
• 1:20:14
  Drivers spin out in the middle of a race all the time.
• 1:20:18
  He didn't cause a collision.
• 1:20:19
  He didn't crash.
• 1:20:21
  He just spun out and reentered the race surface and finished the race.
• 1:20:26
  I don't understand why this is.
• 1:20:27
  He's also 60 years old.
• 1:20:29
  The guy, a fucking break.
• 1:20:30
  But he's not the first Hollywood star to turn towards racing.
• 1:20:35
  Now we've got Frankie Munez making his official announcement that he's a NASCAR.
• 1:20:39
  Now we have these Hollywood stars that I guess they're bored.
• 1:20:42
  They've done everything that they can do with the umpteen trillion
• 1:20:45
  dollars that they've made.
• 1:20:46
  And they're going to go racing.
• 1:20:47
  I mean, not uncommon.
• 1:20:48
  You've got the Paul Newman's of the world and the Steve McQueen's.
• 1:20:52
  The Tom Cruise's.
• 1:20:53
  McDreamy.
• 1:20:54
  A bunch of people that were from Hollywood have gone racing in the past.
• 1:20:58
  Well, Frankie Munez isn't.
• 1:20:59
  necessarily a good example because he's been racing for like 20 years actually
• 1:21:04
  and he's only like 38 so he's got into the racing scene pretty young he's
• 1:21:10
  just he's finally I guess going pro officially now yeah He's been involved
• 1:21:17
  in motorsports for a long time, but I guess finally he's officially there.
• 1:21:20
  Keanu, I don't know, isn't he known for doing like motorcycle stuff?
• 1:21:23
  Correct.
• 1:21:24
  Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  It's not a stretch I guess to get into a car.
• 1:21:27
  Good for him.
• 1:21:27
  Maybe he is bored.
• 1:21:28
  I think it's more news just because it's Keanu.
• 1:21:31
  It says professional auto racing debut.
• 1:21:33
  What makes this a professional?
• 1:21:36
  Auto racing debut.
• 1:21:37
  He's an SRO.
• 1:21:38
  He's in the Toyota GR cup.
• 1:21:40
  Yeah.
• 1:21:40
  If I had enough money, I could go do SRO too.
• 1:21:43
  Would that make me a professional race car driver?
• 1:21:44
  No.
• 1:21:45
  He's a bronze level driver like anybody else, right?
• 1:21:47
  Especially because of his age and his experience.
• 1:21:50
  I feel like this is just, it's not news.
• 1:21:52
  It's clickbait.
• 1:21:52
  It's kind of not worth beating.
• 1:21:54
  Well, he's done a couple races since this too.
• 1:21:57
  So, I mean, obviously he's following the SRO schedule.
• 1:21:59
  So good for him.
• 1:22:01
  He knows Kung Fu and now he knows how to race.
• 1:22:03
  So good job, Keanu.
• 1:22:05
  Tom Cruise was the last samurai.
• 1:22:06
  Right.
• 1:22:07
  Since we're talking about rich people things, sponsored by Garage
• 1:22:10
  Style Magazine, because after all, what doesn't belong in your garage?
• 1:22:13
  How about some limited edition prints that are now up for grabs?
• 1:22:17
  Signed by the man himself, Juan Fangio.
• 1:22:21
  How many?
• 1:22:21
  Thousands of dollars of these costs.
• 1:22:23
  So what it says here, they're in the hands of the guy that did these original
• 1:22:27
  prints and got them signed or whatever.
• 1:22:28
  I don't know how many he has.
• 1:22:30
  And this is over on Exotic Car Marketplace.
• 1:22:32
  It was valued $500 10 years ago.
• 1:22:34
  So, and not $500 today.
• 1:22:37
  So now they're two grand, three grand each.
• 1:22:38
  Okay, let's say it's a thousand.
• 1:22:40
  That's still Fangio.
• 1:22:42
  Put his Sharpie.
• 1:22:43
  On it.
• 1:22:44
  That's history right there.
• 1:22:45
  So to get a signed print, now granted it's going to cost you
• 1:22:48
  500 to ship it from Australia.
• 1:22:50
  500 bucks for a piece of artwork signed by Fangio?
• 1:22:53
  That's not bad.
• 1:22:54
  Add that to your Christmas list.
• 1:22:56
  If you're interested in getting one of these, the contact information
• 1:22:59
  to reach Kevin Waite in Australia is at Exotic Car Marketplace.
• 1:23:03
  Just search for limited edition prints signed by Fangio.
• 1:23:07
  So other rich people thangs, and this is a spoiler alert for an upcoming episode.
• 1:23:11
  We sat down with David Beattie from Slot Mods Raceways, and he talks about
• 1:23:15
  his whole story about building custom slot car tracks and all the other things
• 1:23:19
  that he is into over at Slot Mods.
• 1:23:21
  And he's working with William Ross from the Exotic Car Marketplace
• 1:23:24
  to auction off a Hot Wheels track.
• 1:23:26
  You can get in on that for the low, low price of 25.
• 1:23:30
  1, 000.
• 1:23:31
  It's actually kind of cool.
• 1:23:32
  There's all sorts of pictures of it on the exotic car marketplace website You
• 1:23:35
  can check out and I know that William and David are working on a project for next
• 1:23:40
  year and there will be a track being built to be auctioned off for Charity and you'll
• 1:23:45
  be able to read more about that and more of its details on exotic car marketplace
• 1:23:49
  as well But if you haven't seen the work that slot mods has done some of these
• 1:23:53
  tracks that they've built for Audi that they've built for private collections
• 1:23:57
  for Zach Brown Brown of McLaren, you know, all these kinds of things that Dave
• 1:24:00
  goes into on the episode is pretty cool.
• 1:24:02
  I highly recommend people check out the video painting coconuts on YouTube.
• 1:24:07
  And you'll see David about 10 years ago or so that video actually won a
• 1:24:11
  Clio award and it's produced by Audi.
• 1:24:14
  And it has to do with the Quattro experience, and he built this
• 1:24:16
  really cool track for the debut of, at the time, the new A7.
• 1:24:21
  So if you haven't seen that, check out Painting Coconuts on YouTube, and then
• 1:24:25
  you get more of an idea of what Slot Mods is all about, the quality of their work.
• 1:24:29
  And, on top of that, William just did a behind the scenes.
• 1:24:31
  Facility tour of slot mods.
• 1:24:34
  And you get to see Dave and he shows you the tracks that he's building and
• 1:24:36
  all this stuff that they're working on.
• 1:24:37
  There's some really, really cool stuff there.
• 1:24:39
  And so for me, reignited a passion about slot car racing.
• 1:24:43
  So if you're looking to have something commissioned to fill up a big empty
• 1:24:47
  space in your house and you're into racing slot mods is definitely
• 1:24:49
  something you should check out.
• 1:24:51
  Speaking of big money, Zuckerberg and his Porsche.
• 1:24:54
  I take exception to this being called a minivan.
• 1:24:58
  It's more like a limousine.
• 1:24:59
  I don't know what makes this a minivan other than it's long because
• 1:25:02
  I don't think it shares the correct architectural qualities of a minivan.
• 1:25:07
  Like a minivan doesn't have a sloping rear pillar.
• 1:25:11
  They're flat.
• 1:25:12
  Right.
• 1:25:12
  They're straight up and down.
• 1:25:13
  I mean to say in the back, they don't slope down like this.
• 1:25:16
  Like you just stretched an SUV.
• 1:25:19
  Yeah.
• 1:25:19
  It's a shooting brake with sliding doors.
• 1:25:21
  Sliding doors equal minivan.
• 1:25:23
  Basically that's what they're saying.
• 1:25:24
  So a Yukon XL that has four rows.
• 1:25:30
  Yes.
• 1:25:30
  And if I put sliding doors on it.
• 1:25:32
  I could call that a minivan and not rolling house.
• 1:25:36
  Yes, sliding doors equal minivan.
• 1:25:38
  That's it.
• 1:25:39
  So I could put sliding doors on a Volkswagen Beetle
• 1:25:42
  and it would be a minivan.
• 1:25:44
  But you would have to extend said beetle to accommodate sliding doors because
• 1:25:48
  your sliding doors cannot be your feet.
• 1:25:50
  front doors.
• 1:25:51
  They are rear sliding doors in the place of standard opening rear doors.
• 1:25:55
  So I can take a mini Cooper.
• 1:25:58
  How are we even arguing this?
• 1:26:00
  Because I think this is the dumbest thing.
• 1:26:02
  Brad, is that a van?
• 1:26:03
  No, it's a abomination.
• 1:26:05
  Is a Camaro a hatchback?
• 1:26:06
  It's a liftback.
• 1:26:07
  That's a whole nother.
• 1:26:07
  Yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Okay.
• 1:26:08
  I get your point.
• 1:26:09
  Yes.
• 1:26:10
  Who gives a shit?
• 1:26:12
  But hey, she was happy.
• 1:26:13
  So I guess that's all that counts.
• 1:26:14
  Apparently it fits a seven foot statue.
• 1:26:17
  That he commissioned in the likeness of his wife.
• 1:26:19
  Is that why he needed to transport that statue home?
• 1:26:22
  So he had to build a longer.
• 1:26:24
  No, no, I don't think that's it.
• 1:26:25
  I think those are two independent stories.
• 1:26:27
  For his army of zucks.
• 1:26:29
  Yeah, zuck army.
• 1:26:31
  Rich people things, baby.
• 1:26:32
  Good for him.
• 1:26:36
  Well, it's time we go down south.
• 1:26:40
  About alligators and beer.
• 1:26:56
  Couldn't really find any stories, but there is apparently a new HBO show out.
• 1:27:01
  It premiered just a couple days ago, October 18th.
• 1:27:03
  It's called, It's Florida, Comet Man.
• 1:27:06
  Oh, God.
• 1:27:09
  And so, it's different than like the Netflix.
• 1:27:12
  Florida man, which I enjoyed.
• 1:27:13
  So I think it's less episodic.
• 1:27:15
  It's apparently it's going to have like a slew of cameos of
• 1:27:20
  different well known people now.
• 1:27:23
  And it's apparently it's part documentary, part dramedy, part whatever.
• 1:27:28
  So I don't know what this is exactly.
• 1:27:30
  I haven't checked it out yet, but apparently there's
• 1:27:32
  episodes available on HBO.
• 1:27:34
  All right.
• 1:27:35
  It's time to watch.
• 1:27:36
  It's Florida, man.
• 1:27:38
  It's Florida, man.
• 1:27:41
  Well, it's time we go quickly behind the pit wall.
• 1:27:45
  So we've talked all about Formula One earlier, but there is a little
• 1:27:49
  bit of shakeup in the IndyCar world.
• 1:27:51
  I hear there's a new racetrack coming.
• 1:27:53
  IndyCars are not going to Koda, but they might be going to
• 1:27:57
  Arlington, Texas's street course.
• 1:27:59
  Sure.
• 1:28:00
  So if you guys watched the video that we've attached in the show notes,
• 1:28:03
  basically what I tell from this very poorly Xbox 360 graphic video that
• 1:28:09
  they did is that You're driving around the Dallas Cowboys stadium and at
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  the end it says coming March 2026.
• 1:28:16
  Sure.
• 1:28:17
  Yeah, so we're still like two years away, year and a half away
• 1:28:19
  from whatever this racetrack is.
• 1:28:21
  It looks like every other street course, kind of tight and Long
• 1:28:25
  straightaways and slow down.
• 1:28:27
  So the crowd can see the cars and then speed away and slow down and see the cars.
• 1:28:30
  Does Indy do a lot of street courses?
• 1:28:31
  They do more than anybody.
• 1:28:33
  I think really, yeah, there's still all the Memphis and St.
• 1:28:36
  Petersburg and Detroit and all that stuff.
• 1:28:39
  They're all street courses.
• 1:28:40
  AMSA does all of those as well.
• 1:28:41
  Similar ones.
• 1:28:42
  Yeah.
• 1:28:43
  But I, I don't know why anybody would want to do city courses anymore.
• 1:28:46
  I mean, it makes life miserable for everybody.
• 1:28:50
  It's hard to get any good seating because there's so many crash barriers and gates
• 1:28:53
  and you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:28:55
  It's just, I don't know.
• 1:28:56
  When we went to Memphis a couple of years ago, I was like, that's cool.
• 1:28:59
  You couldn't get to all sections of the track because of the
• 1:29:01
  way the roads were blocked off.
• 1:29:03
  And unless you lived in one of the buildings, which
• 1:29:05
  you were either trapped in.
• 1:29:07
  Or you had the best vantage point of the race.
• 1:29:10
  It was kind of weird.
• 1:29:11
  So for me, city courses, I'm like, yeah, that's cool.
• 1:29:13
  That's fun.
• 1:29:13
  I'll watch it on TV.
• 1:29:14
  You know, I promised you guys I wouldn't talk about rally because we got a
• 1:29:18
  whole rally special coming spoiler.
• 1:29:20
  And we mentioned Hoonigan earlier, Leah blocks.
• 1:29:23
  WRC Subaru debut.
• 1:29:25
  Not so good.
• 1:29:26
  No, I think her day ended when she ended up sideways wedged in between two trees.
• 1:29:31
  Oopsies.
• 1:29:32
  She was just trying to get on the Zach Galifianakis show.
• 1:29:34
  She's trying.
• 1:29:35
  Poor thing.
• 1:29:36
  I mean.
• 1:29:36
  I mean, it's Rally.
• 1:29:37
  Shit happens, right?
• 1:29:38
  A hundred percent.
• 1:29:39
  I mean, it's just it.
• 1:29:39
  It's not if, it's when stuff happens in Rally.
• 1:29:42
  Rally is so unpredictable.
• 1:29:43
  It's so risky and dangerous, but to be at the front, you gotta be
• 1:29:47
  fast and you gotta be able to push.
• 1:29:49
  But yeah, I saw that picture and I was like, Damn girl, like, that sucks.
• 1:29:53
  You know, hopefully she dusts herself off and gets back on
• 1:29:56
  the horse and keeps at it.
• 1:29:58
  Interesting though, with all the hub a loop, this is why I bring
• 1:30:01
  it up, with Audi, she's driving a Subaru, she's not driving an Audi.
• 1:30:05
  I don't get it, I don't understand, right?
• 1:30:06
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• 1:30:10
  ghosts of the past coming back to haunt us, you know, was that a, gotta
• 1:30:13
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• 1:30:17
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• 1:30:20
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• 1:30:24
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• 1:30:29
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  So who wants to reveal first?
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  Oh no, he didn't.
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  Where's your unicorn narwhal rainbow outfit.
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  I have mine here, but I haven't put it on yet.
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  Cause I didn't have time after bedtime.
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  You could just put the top part on, like, just put it over your head.
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  I could wear it like a cape because nobody can see you from the chin down anyway.
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  Well, I'm not wearing pants now anyway.
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  Oh, you're doing the Dan Rather thing.
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  Yes, the burgundy.
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  I mean, my costume's not that impressive, but Hold on, let me put mine on.
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  Your pants or your costume?
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  He's going to be so hot.
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  Well, not if he does it like you said, like a cape.
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  It's so hot right now.
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  To your point, it is burning up in this thing.
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  I need to turn, well, let me turn my air on.
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  Wearing it this way, I can't button it.
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  Your pants are your costume.
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  Can you tell me the difference between a unicorn and a narwhal?
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  One swims in the sea and one doesn't exist?
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  One's a horse.
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• 1:38:26
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