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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists.
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  Speaker 2: This week Bow Wow Wolf Wolf, Who Let the Dogs Out?
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  Speaker 2: It's these directors of famous dog.
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  Speaker 3: Movies Airbud Beethoven to list a few. Dog movies are
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  Speaker 3: a huge part of American cinema. They bring families together
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  Speaker 3: and cuddles forever.
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  Speaker 4: These directors and showrunners and creators of these movies have
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  Speaker 4: to make sure that their actors get on their barks,
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  Speaker 4: and we got to see what it's like to actually
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  Speaker 4: work behind the scenes of a dog movie.
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  Speaker 5: So let's wag your tail, sit on down and listen.
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  Speaker 5: In day.
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  Speaker 4: It's really nice to see you guys. Altogether. We don't
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  Speaker 4: ever get to get together, No, not at all, you
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  Speaker 4: really don't.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually incredible that we're all all here together and
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  Speaker 3: we get to talk about so many of our films.
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  Speaker 3: I love all of your guys, body of work.
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  Speaker 1: And what we do is so niche.
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  Speaker 2: What we do is so incredibly niche that it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's not common that we get to meet each
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  Speaker 2: other and we're the we're.
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  Speaker 4: The mount Rushmore of dog movies.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Working with kids hard. Try working with a dog. Try
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  Speaker 5: working with a dog. He said that.
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  Speaker 4: George n never worked with animals.
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  Speaker 1: Animals are children?
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  Speaker 4: Who said that?
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  Speaker 7: I who said that?
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  Speaker 1: Who said that?
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  Speaker 4: I think?
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  Speaker 5: Who said? Who did say George Vern?
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  Speaker 7: Who said it?
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  Speaker 1: Did anyone o them?
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  Speaker 5: It was it Ridley Scott? Was it Ridley? I don't
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  Speaker 5: have a phone.
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  Speaker 1: Now it was William Shakespeare? You know who said that?
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  Speaker 7: I think Margot Robbie.
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  Speaker 4: She might have been quoting the original person who said so.
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  Speaker 7: Then who said that?
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  Speaker 5: Who's Jules Vern? Well?
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  Speaker 2: Now I read it in a Quota Day magazine about Hollywood.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, let's go around around, because I don't think they
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  Speaker 6: might know what by the dogs in our movies they
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  Speaker 6: might not notice by our faces.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course I am Tiffany Mickfadden, and I wrote
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  Speaker 2: and produced and directed the film.
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  Speaker 1: A Dog Searching.
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  Speaker 2: It is about a lost dog a family who is
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  Speaker 2: searching for their beloved dog, Pippin, and Pippin has actually.
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  Speaker 1: Lost a dog of his own.
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  Speaker 2: So it's about a dog searching for his own dog.
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  Speaker 2: And the twist is that dog also has a dog
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  Speaker 2: he's looking for. Now, just to clarify, these are not
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  Speaker 2: puppies of the dogs. These are dogs that these dogs
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  Speaker 2: own legally they went to the Humane Society and they've
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  Speaker 2: actually legally filled out the paperwork to adopt these dogs
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  Speaker 2: of their own. So they're absolutely distraught. I mean, can
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  Speaker 2: you imagine being a human and losing a dog that's
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  Speaker 2: so much more magnified as a dog.
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  Speaker 1: For the dog that's such a strong emotional And I.
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  Speaker 4: Loved your movie that you made a special web series
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  Speaker 4: where the dog went to the Humane Society, so there's
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  Speaker 4: a companion. I actually got the DVD, so I got
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  Speaker 4: to see the web series. Yeah, and it was really awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're we worked closely with the Humane Society
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  Speaker 2: on that. We uh we we had to work with them,
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  Speaker 2: both both the Humane Society and a lot of really
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  Speaker 2: talented animal trainers to actually physically get the pen into
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  Speaker 2: the paws of the dog. We need to teach them
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  Speaker 2: how to sign their own names, because the Humane Society
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  Speaker 2: was really strict on this. They wouldn't legally let the
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  Speaker 2: dog have the other dog unless they could provide a signature,
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  Speaker 2: and they wouldn't take a paw prints.
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  Speaker 3: And the poster of the dog holding a leash, and
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  Speaker 3: the way the.
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  Speaker 6: Pot confused, like dude, where's my car it is?
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  Speaker 1: We take a lot of inspiration from Dude, Where's My Car?
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  Speaker 2: The old title for this was dude, whar's my dog?
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  Speaker 7: Oh? I'm glad you stuck with the other.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, live action, right, it's a live action.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, live action. Well except for that
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  Speaker 2: one part at the end, but I won't spoil it.
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  Speaker 3: Well we'll get to that credit sec Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well that's just text.
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  Speaker 5: You don't you don't have to. You don't usually in
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  Speaker 5: a movie.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to mention that that that that the
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  Speaker 4: the credits are not live action.
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  Speaker 1: It's animated.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think everything is so live action these days,
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  Speaker 2: but it's such a it's so refreshing to return to
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  Speaker 2: two D animation.
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  Speaker 4: Sure you might get.
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  Speaker 1: We're not celebrated anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It really grinds my gears when we don't give credit
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  Speaker 2: to the talented animation artists behind credit sequences.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't consider them animation artists.
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  Speaker 5: Let's move on, let's move on.
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  Speaker 4: Let's don't have to. I don't have to turn over
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  Speaker 4: that stone.
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  Speaker 1: Dog greed to disagree.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, Oh, I love that we're barking our way up here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so, hi guys, my name is Liza ben Simone.
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  Speaker 3: I have been writing and directing dog movies since I
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  Speaker 3: graduated n y U Film School. My newest film, Dog
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  Speaker 3: Getting hit by a Train after drowning in an Ocean,
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  Speaker 3: came out. It is dog getting train after drowning in
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  Speaker 3: an ocean came out, and I wrote that one before
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  Speaker 3: my first movie actually, which which is what really put
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  Speaker 3: me in the dog filmmaking category. That was two dogs
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  Speaker 3: hitting each other so hard they explode and one of
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  Speaker 3: them cries himself to death.
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  Speaker 7: That was the one.
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  Speaker 1: What I love about your film is this.
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  Speaker 2: Usually there is some sort of mystery of whether or
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  Speaker 2: not the dog is going to pass away, and like
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  Speaker 2: you always it's that that trope with dog movies where
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  Speaker 2: you desperately hope the dog won't pass away, but you
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  Speaker 2: tell us right away, this dog is gonna die in
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  Speaker 2: a pretty rough and graphic way.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm working on another one right now where we're playing
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  Speaker 3: with audience. Like the numbers were getting from audience reactions
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  Speaker 3: and how they're feeling in the in the audience when
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  Speaker 3: they're watching the movie. And I just love making my
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  Speaker 3: audience feel something. I think that's why I got into filmmaking.
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  Speaker 3: So my newest movie we're working on a dog death
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  Speaker 3: every ten minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Wow ratio.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And we're doing that, and to do that and
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  Speaker 3: introduce the audience to a new dog and then to
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  Speaker 3: kill off that dog every ten minutes. We're really trying
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  Speaker 3: to bring people together. And I think what brings people
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  Speaker 3: together is dogs dying.
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  Speaker 4: And is that an action film or is that some
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  Speaker 4: sort of horror film?
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  Speaker 7: So that we're doing a little bit. I'm pulling from
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  Speaker 7: some inspiration.
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  Speaker 3: Love actually is one of the polls.
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  Speaker 5: Stories that are all tied.
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  Speaker 2: Together, and the stories intersect and the way I would die.
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  Speaker 5: That's their intersection, is that they all die.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, that's what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: They're all meeting together in the afterlife. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: don't see that well you know exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Jennifer Gardner maybe is the niece, uh maybe of the
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  Speaker 3: other beagles, mom who's lost her beagle. You know, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm still working, mom, I'm.
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  Speaker 7: Still putting it all together.
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  Speaker 2: To be honest, you know, I saw still of the
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  Speaker 2: production that leaked. I don't know if you could confirm this,
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  Speaker 2: but it's of a dog holding up a sign that
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  Speaker 2: says you're about to get hit by a car written
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  Speaker 2: in sharpie, and another dog looking on from a higher window.
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  Speaker 3: That leaked right after Greta Gerwigg's Barbie film.
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  Speaker 4: Same.
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  Speaker 3: I can't get paparazzi away from my films because they're
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  Speaker 3: going to ruin it. I don't want people to know
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  Speaker 3: that those dogs will die.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I want to bring this up. I think it
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  Speaker 4: might be because I'm driving on Hollywood. I see those
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  Speaker 4: yellow production signs with the arrows, and it always says
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  Speaker 4: a dog's dying over here. So I think you should
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  Speaker 4: change the name of the production.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I think that is just natural bait. People are gonna
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  Speaker 4: want to go to.
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  Speaker 7: Well, that's my escorp too, so I can't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, quote from a movie, I'm walking here, what's that from?
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  Speaker 7: Who said that?
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  Speaker 5: Who said? Is that Jules Verne?
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  Speaker 7: Who said that? Greta Gerwick?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I heard Judy Garland said that in a way.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I did think she said. I don't remember her
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  Speaker 5: saying that in a way she went, she sort of
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  Speaker 5: alluded to it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, time for me to introduce myself. My name is
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  Speaker 4: Rudy Kunn. I am really nice. It's really nice to
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  Speaker 4: be here.
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  Speaker 5: I love you guys. Rudy absolutely maybe the most legendary
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  Speaker 5: of us all.
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  Speaker 4: Please please, Yeah, Rudy, I'm lucky to live the life
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  Speaker 4: I live. Every day I wake up, I get my
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  Speaker 4: my wife to pinch me and I and I get
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  Speaker 4: her to say you're alive. Because I can't believe it's
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  Speaker 4: such a she.
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  Speaker 1: Has to do that every day. She won ever get
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  Speaker 1: to sleep in she.
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  Speaker 4: Wants to wait for if she's still sleeping, I'll wait
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  Speaker 4: in bed awake. I'll do on my iPad or doing
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  Speaker 4: the word or whatever, and then I'll and then I'll
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  Speaker 4: wait for her to wake Come when she wakes up,
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  Speaker 4: a letter, pinch me. I am the director and creator
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  Speaker 4: of Working Like a Dog series, the Working Like a
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  Speaker 4: Dog series. As you know, this dog, through some sort
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  Speaker 4: of stipulation gets into some sort of intense job. So
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  Speaker 4: working like a dog lawyer, Working like a Dog doctor
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  Speaker 4: one of my favorite welder.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, one of Working Like a Dog Lawyer was one
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  Speaker 6: of my favorite movies I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 7: Working like a Dog sex worker and incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Was insane, and that one got me in a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of trouble.
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  Speaker 1: I do remember, but I mean I think you're validating.
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  Speaker 1: You know, sex work is work.
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  Speaker 4: It was pro work.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's work.
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  Speaker 4: It was it was pro sex work.
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  Speaker 6: It was.
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  Speaker 4: It was also probcality in many ways.
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  Speaker 2: It's got me in a little bit of a It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't I mean, you had a limit. It was the
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  Speaker 2: dogs on the dogs. It wasn't anything else like this
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  Speaker 2: dog on dog.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the first one we've ever done dog on
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  Speaker 4: dog because all the other ones are. It's what's so
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  Speaker 4: exciting is what's so exciting is you know they they
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  Speaker 4: this is a dog in a human the worlds a lawyer, doctor, welder.
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  Speaker 4: He can't do that for sex, No bounce house operator.
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  Speaker 4: These were all really.
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  Speaker 6: Every line every time your movie, there's that line, this
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  Speaker 6: dog can't be a bounce house owner.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this dog can't be a lawyer. Yeah, but that one,
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  Speaker 5: uh dog sex worker.
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  Speaker 4: It was changed to this dog can fuss exactly, and
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  Speaker 4: then another dog said that.
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  Speaker 7: Joan Rivers was in that right.
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  Speaker 4: Joan Rivers her last film.
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  Speaker 6: And man, can we talk about the lead dog that
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  Speaker 6: you use for every film. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 6: sub him out, but.
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  Speaker 4: Chubby, his name is Chubby's a Rottweiler.
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  Speaker 5: He is my dog.
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  Speaker 4: He's my guy. Actually have four Chubby is number one,
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  Speaker 4: Chico's number two, Regina's number three and spot is number four.
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  Speaker 4: Are the siblings, They are siblings. Yeah, they all came
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  Speaker 4: from the same litter.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, that's nice. Yeah, congrats.
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  Speaker 3: I saw on Veterinary, the veterinary magazine. Yeah, the Veterinary magazine,
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  Speaker 3: Veternary Magazine.
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  Speaker 1: When it dropped on Bedline, Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Vetline Animal of the Year, they did Shamoo and Chubby.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Shamoo and Chubby.
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  Speaker 5: Shamoo got again. What a comeback for Shamoo.
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  Speaker 4: I'm having to come back this year that that whale
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  Speaker 4: has been through a lot.
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  Speaker 7: It was choppy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're fine with that now. I think we're fine
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  Speaker 1: with I.
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  Speaker 4: Think we're good with SeaWorld.
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  Speaker 3: And you've never had a problem with SeaWorld. I've never
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  Speaker 3: had a fucking problem with SeaWorld. Those guys are making art.
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  Speaker 3: And when I talk about guys, I mean those seals
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  Speaker 3: and elephant seals, yes, all of them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Chubby has gone through a lot, Chubby. Uh. I
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  Speaker 4: had a big moment in the public eye Rick Jennifer
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  Speaker 4: Lawrence's dress off of her The people's choice was that staged,
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  Speaker 4: That was not staged. That was not stage.
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  Speaker 5: It looks stage to me. She was bleeding. I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was stage.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, that was real blood. That wasn't stage bleeding.
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  Speaker 7: Well was it stage when he got slimed with Dwayne
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  Speaker 7: the Rock Johnson at.
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  Speaker 4: The staged because we you have to tell a dog
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  Speaker 4: if you're going to put slime on him. It's union rule.
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  Speaker 5: He understood it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, my hands are tied on that one. I wish
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have to tell him because I love to
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  Speaker 4: see the surprise. So yeah, it's really really excited. We're
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  Speaker 4: really excited about our newest of Working like a Dog movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's coming out this year, which one.
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  Speaker 4: Announcing it right here? Skydiving instructor, Oh, instructor, Yes, skydiving instructor,
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  Speaker 4: Working like a dog. Skydiving instructor is gonna be really excited.
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  Speaker 1: That's so exciting.
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  Speaker 5: What's the plot there?
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  Speaker 4: So he gets hired as a skydiving instructor?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, and.
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  Speaker 1: Does anyone ever tell the dog he can't be a
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  Speaker 1: skydiving instructor?
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  Speaker 4: You bet, you better believe the pilot does.
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  Speaker 1: But he does anything?
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  Speaker 5: Does it?
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  Speaker 4: Anyways?
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  Speaker 5: My God sense to me that he would not be
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  Speaker 5: able to.
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  Speaker 6: Out of all the jobs you've said, skydiving instructor seems
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  Speaker 6: like the most unlikely dogs so.
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  Speaker 1: Is the dog strapped to a person as he falls
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  Speaker 1: through the sky and.
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  Speaker 7: Telling what the person what to do.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, because he's not just a skydiver, he's a skydiving
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  Speaker 6: instruck is he's an instructor.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's mostly working with other skydivingst to teach them
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  Speaker 4: how to skydive. And so and then you gotta see
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  Speaker 4: there's Chubby pulls the cord. And that was a really
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  Speaker 4: exciting trick for us to show him being in midair
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  Speaker 4: with Chubby trying to teach him as we're flying to
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  Speaker 4: pull a cord was so thrilling. And all the food
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  Speaker 4: in my mouth that are usually keeping there as treats
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  Speaker 4: definitely difficult.
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  Speaker 1: To keep in You're keep it in your mouth.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's warmer in there. What you guys don't when
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  Speaker 4: you're training your dogs, you don't keep food in your mouth.
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  Speaker 1: No, I keep it in my soft there's a warmer
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  Speaker 1: in this.
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  Speaker 4: This is a real thing that people do at dog shows.
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  Speaker 4: They have little food in their mouth that they feed
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  Speaker 4: their dogs.
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  Speaker 7: This is what I do in their mouths.
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  Speaker 4: They keep the food in their mouths.
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  Speaker 1: Oh this isn't a weird thing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Then I take back what I said, Okay, legend,
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  Speaker 2: you introduce yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, guys, what's up.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a Glen Army and I'm a Christian dog filmmaker. Recently,
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  Speaker 6: you might have seen my movie Passion of the Dog.
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  Speaker 6: It is a beautiful retelling of the story of Jesus,
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  Speaker 6: but everybody is a dog, and it's a beautiful story.
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  Speaker 6: And it's getting some it's getting some buzz, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: really excited to talk about that. You know, it's coming
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  Speaker 6: out in specific Christian theaters very very soon.
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  Speaker 2: Would you say the buzz is positive or negative?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the buzz is both positive and very negative.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, good press is bad press.
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  Speaker 5: Hey that's what I've been saying.
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  Speaker 7: Who said that?
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  Speaker 1: Who said that?
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  Speaker 6: Margot Robbie, It's gotta be Jules Vern So anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I'm getting some bad press. I mean, we'll just jump
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  Speaker 6: to it. The crucifixion scene. People did not appreciate that.
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  Speaker 6: People have not been liking it. And I'll go on
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  Speaker 6: the record here it was not real. We did not
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  Speaker 6: actually crucify that dog. But it does look like we
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  Speaker 6: actually crucified that dogs.
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  Speaker 5: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 7: So the footage that was released on vetline wasn't it?
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  Speaker 6: Was? It?
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  Speaker 7: Didn't look good.
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  Speaker 5: I'll be honest, it didn't look good.
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  Speaker 4: It's controversial because you can't really get a dog display
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  Speaker 4: their arms out like that. That's just you can.
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  Speaker 5: You can, and we did.
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  Speaker 3: You can, you can't, but it doesn't look natural, as
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  Speaker 3: if a dog strapped to a human falling out of
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  Speaker 3: a skydiving.
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  Speaker 4: And that was natural.
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  Speaker 2: Because I know your work, I know you care about animals.
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  Speaker 2: I know that you don't cut corners on animal safety,
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  Speaker 2: so I would imagine did you have to find a
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  Speaker 2: double jointed dog to be able to do that?
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  Speaker 6: We found a dog that could just stretch a little wider.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't go full tea. We went more of a
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: y kind of a okay tough for the cross, and
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: then we did a couple of shots where we just
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: got the dog. We put fake prosthetic dog arms on
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: it to get the full teeth.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: See, but that dog was a doxin and putting fake
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: arms on a docs and I find just an.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: Appropriate its.
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: Well yeah, so the huge long arms I had to
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: match it. It felt like he had such a long body.
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: Wouldn't he also have long arms on the cross.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know. It just worked for me, it worked.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: I just can't imagine a docks and walking with long
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: arms like that normal dogs legs. I can't imagine it
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: ever getting off the ground.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Uh huh.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just a little old fashioned to me.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: We don't tell a starlit actresses to get boob jobs anymore.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: No, I keep my dog's naturally.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Well, I wasn't.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: I wasn't.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: I wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't a surgery, it was prosthetic.
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: It was sure.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: I just yeah, sure. I want to go on record
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: and saying, out of all the people here, I like
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: your films the least.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: It just felt like that. It felt like that I do.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know what happened. And this is the thing.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: The discussion with like a base understanding of where.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: We all yeah so, And this is the thing that's
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: been an uphill battle for me because I find the
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: power of Christ so compelling that I have to fight
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: for him.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: And I find that the best way to tell that
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: story was through dogs.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: Now, can I ask what makes it the best way?
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: I think you get rid of people and get to
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: see dogs, and that's why you get.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: It, so you you just enjoy seeing the dog.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it's stronger. Oh, what you're gonna get
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: a famous actor to play ponscious pilot? No, get a
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: pug to play ponscious pilot.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: I did love that. Yeah, Puggy the pug.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Do you think the gospel isn't enough on its own
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: that you need to add puppies to it?
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: I think the gospel is more than enough on our
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: own that I don't need humans ruining the words. I
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: need dogs retelling the story.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: I got a question because I can't stand to talk
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: about this an I got a good question for you guys.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: So when it goes to writing, you know how musicians,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: it's like the lyrics or the melody. When you guys
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: make a movie, is it the dog that comes first?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Or is it the story? Do you find the dog
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: for the story or do you find the story for
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: the dog.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm definitely dog first. I take generals with a
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: lot of dogs. So I'm taking I'm I'm you know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I meet a lot of dogs, and I'm lucky to.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Have some like good relationships with a lot of doggs.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: What dogs have you met? Because I also take I'm
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: sure we all do a lot.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I'm there's this up and cover. I'm really excited about.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Rudy Poodle mix Rudy Poodle mix Y.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Do you guys feel they came up through ASPCA, Yes,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: came up through straight through the system.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, straight through the system.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: And it is really really just like charisma, great personality
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I think I have. I'm not ready to cast him yet,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: but he's almost there.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: And he trained it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: He trained it. I think he was at the petcoat classes.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he's pet co trained. He's so valuable.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, is an institution. You know you're gonna get a
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: good dog.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get a good Yes.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: That's a great question for Tiffany. I think everyone wants
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: to know there. If you're a young dog actor, you
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: have a dog, what are some common mistakes that people
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: make in dog generals?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, I would say, I mean, I I can't
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: tell you how many times that I have interacted with
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: a young dog like a puppy. You know, they're green,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: they they're straight from the puppy farm and they come
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and meet me. You know, it's sweet green, and they
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: try and pay for my fucking salad.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: And so that's the wrong thing to do.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: That's the wrong thing to you.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Are you generally offensive to me because it implies that I,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: as the human with a check or a debit card
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: in my hand, that I can't pay my bills, and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: that really, frankly grinds my gears in a way.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Also, wagging too much.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Are you is a little desperate for me, especially from
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: the puppy farms.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: You can't wag too.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: Much, frankly, it's an approachate good look on the tape.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: On the tape, the wag is so frenetic. It doesn't
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: show up well on camera. You need to be able
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: to control the world.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: No, Because it does.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: It alters the auto focus of the lights and so
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: it's like a seizure effects.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: It's a frame rate thing too.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: Do you guys feel like all your generals right now
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: are golden doodles?
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Because I want to talk about the golden doodle and
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: what that changed to our industry, and because I as
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: someone who's pitching movies to studios, I I just kept
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: hitting a wall lately where they said is the dog
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: a golden doodle? And I said, are you going to
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: finance it if I tell you it's a lab? And
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: they say, no, these guys want these golden doodles, And yeah, frankly,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I won't work with them.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Well, that's I was kind of forced to make Mary
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: the Golden Doodle, which was tough, you know, because it
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: doesn't really make sense that the gold.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And that was the studio.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: That was the studio. Yeah, yeah, so the studio was pushing.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: I'm I luckily got to make Jesus Christ awena dog
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: and Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ was a golden doodle.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: That's the studio was down my throat.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Because that also implies that God is what kind of
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: dog when he impregnated Mary, because that's a that's what
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: it's a.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Docsin, It's a docson with great Dane arms. Let's make
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: it clear.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Golden and gold Palad's golden doodle mother.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: So it makes sense to me.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: I don't know what the problem is because for me
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: it makes sense because God and dog.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not denying that God is a dog. I'm just
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: saying that the genetics of what kind of dog he is.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: And also golden doodle themselves, they're so privileged, you said
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Pacific Palisade. Exactly, I mean, they're they're so entitled. This
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: show privilege. They're not natural, they're not of this earth.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: You know they were creative. They have these two animals,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you know, a golden retriever and a poodle. They should
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: never have cross paths.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And I can't tell you how many times, you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I hear this a lot actually from golden doodle actors.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Is, oh, I can't get a job anymore.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Like everybody like they're well, I guess that's a poodle
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: higher And it's like it's so it's like it's not true.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: It's like they're coming from a place of privilege. They
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: have been dominating for so long, like it's time to
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: let somebody else in.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: They need to get over themselves.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: They need to get over themselves.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: That's why I exclusively with Rottweilers. Rottwilers, I'll be it
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: the scariest dog on the world. I'llbit the scariest dog
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: on the whole world. But I like, I like saying, hey,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: this guy's scary, but he does something fun, and he's
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: doing something a human could do.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: I like to break the mold. Well, let's talk about
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: that for a second.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Because Rottweilers are also genetically modified, just like golden doodles.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I think any dog.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: Speaking of God, rottweiler is from the creation of a guy.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Oh is that in the what?
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: In in what in the Bible or in in the
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: in the the dog wiki page.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Oh, so it's on the dog wiki page. It says
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Rottweilers are from God.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I thought you were doing it quoting a religious thing.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Though I put that on the wiki. You didn't guilty.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I'm like Banksy of the wiki.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: So I've got a question because.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: I've got a question because I you know, I know
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: we are working with a lot of dogs, and sometimes
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: dogs on set can be divas.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: What are you guys strategies to get around that. I'll
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: go first.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: I'll go first because I know I'm kind of against
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: the fence here, like kind of what's happening to all
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Christians around the world.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: Don't make this.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: About I don't have a problem with I'm also Christian.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I just don't like your attitude or your products.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm also a Christian too.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, I just don't know about that. I just don't
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: know about that. So what we do on our set
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: is what we'll.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Get into is if what happened unfortunately on our set
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: was because we had so many dogs at one time,
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: there was a lot of fights. Well, feeding time was
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: a mess every time a break for lunch, fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: What we ended up doing was doing a caste system
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: type of setup where certain dogs were elevated to royalty
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: and other dogs were kind of the servants of those dogs,
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: and it really worked well for the dogs.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Would you say that that is biblically supported?
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of in the Bible.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: You can definitely get situations and feelings of like a
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: situation where some people were elevated, like Moses and his
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: family was much higher than all.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: The people that he was.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: You know, So what breeds are you putting on the
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: lowest rung and what breeds are put on the top wrong?
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Well, obviously Jackson's and Wiener dogs are gonna be at
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: the top.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: That's Jesus Christ. You gotta put that at the top.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: And then mostly I'll give it to the pugs, anybody
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: that had a status in the movie.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: I love working with pugs.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Yes, Pugs are so fun hard workers.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: They're really fun.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: They really dial in and they they memorize, they like
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: show up ready to work.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: You know, they're really tough for.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I know my sound guy has a lot of trouble
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: with them because they breathe like.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: Bulldogs.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: You don't want to.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I don't want to specific boom hop when I work
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: with pugs or bulldogs, and the boom hop is like, like,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: it's just it's a certain type of sound.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You gotta mic a pug from far away.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: I won't even let a pug when I'm auditioning a
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: dog for a movie. I won't let pugs in because
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: I can hear them in the waiting room. It'll distract
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: me during the audition tape.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: But they work hard.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: They work hard, the work horses of dogs.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: What dogg will you never work with?
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: I will never work with.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Hmmm.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: I will never work with a dog that doesn't have
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: a sparkle.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: In its eye. So not a specific breed, No, it's
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: a thing.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: It's a thing I look for. It's a I look
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: for something that will break my heart. And if you
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: are just glazed behind the eyes and there's not a
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: lot going on in there, that's.
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: Not going to cut it for me.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting because you famously all of your dogs
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: tragically pass away in your movies, Like what what kind
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: of dog do we want to see pass away?
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Is there something you look for in like, Oh, that
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: would be a good dog to die exactly.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: It goes from story to story.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: But no matter what the dog must be, it must
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: be an angelic like looking dog, right, it needs to
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: be the most full of joy and full of love,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: because then we will get the most mileage out of
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: the death right.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: And we're looking for dogs that connect with my actors.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I always let's talk about chemistry reads, because I
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I was looking for a dog got hit by a
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: train after he was drowned to death in the ocean.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I had a specific lab and he just was his
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: beautifully symmetrical snout and I loved him. He was such
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: a good listener, really great. We brought in Gerard Butler
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: and when they's.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Butler trying to save the dog or trying to drown.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Them, well, that no, that that's his dog in the movie.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And he loses the dog because he's a surfer.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: And he took him out too far.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: He took him out too far, and he feels awful.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the lab I wanted to look like the ghost
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: of Gerard Butler's character's wife in.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: The movie Who Died.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Oh you cast a woman who looked like so.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Then we had to bring in We first had to
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: do the chemistry read with Gerard Butler and the lab.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: And then I had to bring in Mary on Coatyard
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: to see if she looked like this lab.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: You brought her into the room to see if she
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: looked like the picture.
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: I wanted them to I wanted them to have the
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: same energy.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: So I made maryon Coatyard run around, and I made
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: our lab at the time, Bunny. I made him run
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And when I when I felt that both it was
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: between Mary on Courtyard and Linda Lohan.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: And when I between those.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Two people doing those two and how did you get
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: down to those two? How did you get It's all
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: about Bunny?
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Bunny was connecting and had the most I was like,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: he this this dog in another life was either maryon
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Courtyard or Lindsay Lohan.
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: And finally we put it together. I was like, it's Maryon.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: But that makes sense to me.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I checked out. I would say a lab in
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Marion coats Yard, that is probably not who I would cast. Well,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: it's energy, it's energy, it's energy, and that's interesting. That's
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: where you and I differ. You know, if I'm casting someone,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I'm going off eye to eye, nose to nose, mouth
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: the mouth I'm doing exactly the same type of face.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: But did you put on a dog's body?
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: Do you?
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: What kind of actors do you like to work with
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: when you're when you're dealing with exclusively rottweilers.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I like to work with actors who aren't going to
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: pose any threat or move fast, so slow actors, cautious actors.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Michael Sarah, Michael Sarah, Stephen Root. I'm talking about Don
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Delawi's rest his soul when he passed away.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Such a good actor for dogs, really really good.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Uh, there's a lot of Oh Jeff Bridges now really
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: great with dogs?
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: Oh young though, No, No.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: If Jeff Bridges walked into a rottweiler office, I mean
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: he would, he'd he'd be walking out with his assen's hands,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: that's for sure.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Well, my favorite was when you did a dog lawyer,
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: working like a dog, working like a dog lawyer.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Jeff Bridges goes into the.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: Courtroom and goes, this is my lawyer, Yeah exactly, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: the judge drops their mallet.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Chubby playing the character doofy at the time came
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: into the courtroom. You know, Jeff Bridges was accused of
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: murder and and he'm do horrible murder, a horrible, horrible murder.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: He he killed, uh, the entire burn victim unit of
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: a hospital, killed allegedly and he didn't do it. You
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: know what's crazy?
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: How again did he hire the dog?
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: What was the reason? Because no one else will take
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: it because it was so clearly guilty, and the dog
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: saw something here he wrote on a whiteboard, I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: we can do this. Incredible and he went and we
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: won the case. What's crazy is that movie? Originally I
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: got that screenplayed from this really cool guy, Sandy Sandy Keen,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and he didn't write it for dogs. That was my
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: first working like a dog, and he went everywhere and
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: he tried to get it made with humans, and I said,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: that's not working.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: I think I got something because that just sounds like
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: a lawyer.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you must have changed the script so much.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I should have changed it more. I should have changed
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: it more looking back on it, because it was so serious,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I should have changed it to more of a light crime.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: You know, now that I'm remembering, there was that scene
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: with with with Jeff Ridge's son where he's like, you
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: will never where he tried. He confronts the lawyer and says,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I think my dad might actually be guilty because and
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: then he talks about the abuse, about how he hits
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: him right, and that's like absolutely heartbreaking good but it's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: a very human adult theme.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: It was really human. And then there's I mean, there's
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: that love making scene between Doofy and his wife played
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: by Deborah Winger.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Course, and all the drug use. Ye, my god, the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: drug use. I've never seen a dog rail cocaine that fast.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: You know what, here's the trick that wasn't cocaine, that
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: was crushed up milk bone.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: No, wow, I really.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Milk bone, you know?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you?
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: No, go ahead, can I tell you?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: My boyfriend and I we send that gift of my boyfriend.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I were trying to see a movie and I was like,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: can we pick up takeout? Uh fast enough but for
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the movie. And then he sent the gift of your
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: the dog lawyer saying I think we could do this.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: When he wrote it on the whiteboard.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Let's I don't quite get what you're saying.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: No, it's I get what you're saying. So it's one
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: of those No, it's one of those gifts. Maybe you're
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: not online.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: What's a gift?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: So a GIF is sort of a moving picture, not
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: almost like a movie, so halfway in between a photo
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and a video.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: So it's kind of like Harry Potter. Newspapers and people.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Will you use them to react to certain images so
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: or certain life situations to get them?
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Do?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: They sell them so online? And you can also actually
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: make one for yourself.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Really yeah, I could make one.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: You could make one.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And they use your movies so much, I think we
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: can do it is a really common Oh yeah, I
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: gotta I.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Got to call my agents. I don't know.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: You can't make money?
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, why not? They're using my stuff?
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: Well, gift residuals should be a thing.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: They should be. But you know, we'll have to do
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the world is really hard on internet creators right now.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Yeahs so hard, so hard.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I want to talk about how you're casting your dog's dogs?
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Yes, that is yeah work.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So it is a lot of chemistry reads between the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: dogs together. I have to see can the dog carry
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the other dog on a leash in a way that
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: is convincing, in a way that looks like this dog
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: is owned by this dog. A lot of times if
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I bring in you know, I'll bring in like a
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: pug to be the owner of a Chihuahua, and it'll
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: walk around with its leash in its mouth, and I
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: have a walk around the room.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: But sometimes what will.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Happen is there's a power dynamic that switches where the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: dog being walked thinks it's the one walking the other dog.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: And so there has to be a very clear dominant
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: submissive relationship so that the dogs understand. Okay, no, do
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: you remember in the previous scene where I had you
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: walk up to the ASPCA receptionist and I had you say,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: in human words, can I adopt a dog today?
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: And you had to wait for the receptionist to go away.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that? And then she came back with
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: a cup of coffee And then she came back.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: And she gave you the paperwork and what you're saying
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: to the dog?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I said, And then you waited for fifteen
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: minutes and then said I'll check.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Your identification and then she went into the other room.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: She photocopied it and she said this will take about
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: twenty four to forty eight hours to process.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: And I said, do you remember that? And if they
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: can't remember that, then it's just not going to work.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: How do you how do you how do you have
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: that conversation with the dog?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Well, so I sit him down and I say, do
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: you remember when we went into the ASPCA?
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: You say exactly that, don't you?
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: You say exactly that?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I paint a picture for him, because sometimes,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: you know, a dog, their brain's not quite as big.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: They don't like if I tell you. Do you remember
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: what you when you went to the store the other day?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: You remember how you walked up to the cashier and
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: you said, I can't find the lemons?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Where the lemons? And then she said, why don't you
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: go over here?
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: And how do you know that? How do you know
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: I did that?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean I don't know. It's emanating off
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: your face. It's very clear. And then she helped you
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: with the lemons. And then you said, oh, this is
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: actually a pretty good deal. Four for three dollars. That's
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: not a bad deal on lemons.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: A good lemon deal.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: That's exactly what I wore.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Three that's under a dollar each.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: That's a hot lemon deal.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And that's why you thought it was a good deal.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Then you brought it back and then you struck up
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: a conversation, and then it turns out you both went
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to the same high school and you might get drinks
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: later this week.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Exactly what happened emanating off my face.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I read people really well.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: I have a question for you about working with the ASPCA,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: working in these shelters when you're shooting.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's just move on from that.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: I just said. If we started talking about that, I
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: don't know. I don't I don't understand. I understand, I understand,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: my brain won't be able to fathom it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: No, we should get off it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Please go ahead, and then we can get back to
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: your pretty severe psychic abilities. Is is it weird we're
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: going into these shelters? Uh? Do you feel like you're being,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: for lack of a better word, hounded by these immateure
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: dog actors trying to get discovered? Is it annoying for you?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: You can't walk down these aisles.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I cannot walk down because all of these dogs are
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: saying whoof, woof, whoff?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Notice me, notice me, notice me. I'm like, quit auditioning.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: My god, It's like it's you know, it's desperate.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Yea, you have to.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: And this is why it's so important to go through reps,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: because you get dogs who are not gonna be scratching
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: at the cage, ready to get out.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I hate that. I hate walking down the street and
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: a dog rolls over for me tricks like it's just
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: doing tricks.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you just happen to be doing that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: Imagine me if I imagine me if the amount of
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: dogs that play dead for me, Oh my god.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: God funnily enough doesn't happen to me a lot that?
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Oh you know, do you guys?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So I would like to find dogs are not Christian
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: these days?
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: What do you think the problem is? It is for me,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: dogs have lost faith. Dogs have completely lost faith. It's
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: tough to see this new generation of dogs are not
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: going to church. They're not showing up. They're not they're
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: not coming, not like the old generation of dogs who
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: were there on Sundays.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: My grandma used to.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Talk about a chapel full of barks. She couldn't even
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: hear the sermon because.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: Part of the film too was reintroducing telling dogs they
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: can come back, They're welcome.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: There are roles for you.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: You know, Australian shepherds are going to be such good
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: Roman guards. They are going to guard the sarcophagus of
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: Jesus like they like they are supposed to.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: You know, Australian shepherds are believers.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, shepherds in the title.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: Can you guys go to parks anymore? I can't walk
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: into a park.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: No, no, I can't think about what.
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: We're not getting hounded.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I just it's it's yeah, I can't think about work parks.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I can't go down to the dog food aisle. Do
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: you guys have dogs at home?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: No?
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Only cats?
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Absolutely not.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I have a lizard bearded dragon, that's a pet.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I have a bit of fish.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I have a cat with one leg.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, Well, you know what's interesting is the more
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: and more this episode goes on.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: I'm realizing something. What Glenn Army very very specific about
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: our conversation.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Mister Army, go ahead, Well I don't know if.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: You guys have armies, But does this conversation, this whole
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: day kind of feel like we're just lightly skidding around
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: the idea of eugenics, just slightly kidding around the idea
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: of eugenics with dogs, like trying to create the best
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: breed of dog?
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: What is the best breed? Don't work with dogs at
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: the pound.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: You know, it's just It's just interesting to me that
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: this whole episode we've kind of been skinning and scurrying
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: around this whole idea of eugenics.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: But you know, I guess that's something we could talk about.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: So you're psychic, So I'm psychic.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm always.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Psychic when I encounter certain people. I would say I
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: am psychic when it comes to filmmakers, I disrespect.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like you know how your movie's
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: gonna do before it hits? Like, let's talk about box
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: office numbers, right, yeah? Yeah, because I feel like we
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: are used a lot with these big studios. I mean,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I have a movie coming out either Christmas Day, Thanksgiving Day.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I'm like, guys, can't we just have it come out
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: on a normal part of the year.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: People have this obsession with dog movies.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: They think they're family movies.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: They think they're you know, it's something that's gonna pull
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: on the heartstrings, so they really want them to come
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: out around the holidays. Do you guys ever get pressured
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: to put Christmas trees in the back of scenes just
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: to give it that feel, just to pluw them in.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, my movie, A Dog Searching is not
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: about Christmas. It very specifically takes place in July, and
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that's a very important plot point because one of the
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: dogs loses his dog at a public pool. You wouldn't
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: be at a public pool on Christmas Day.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't be there.
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: Oh, don't get me started.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: And that's a conversation I've had with executives nat nauseum.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I want to throw up the amount of times I've
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: had to say this.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: The amount of times I'm at Video Village and we're
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: working and we got a good vibe going, and then
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I see a Warner Brothers exec wave his hand at me,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: and I go, if you're about to tell me the
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Gerard Butler needs to put a Santa hat on this lap,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: or God forbid. The amount of times I'm told when
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the dog is at the dog hospital connected and we
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: have the beep, beep beep, they go, can we put
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: a Christmas tree back there? At the Veterinarian Clanic.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: They made me turn working like a dog mall employee
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: into working like a dog Santa Claus. And honestly, when
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I tell you, that was the most soul sucking movie
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I've ever made in my life. This wasn't working like
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: a dog lawyer. This wasn't working like a dog doctor.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: This wasn't working like a dog tour guide in Hollywood.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: This was working like a dog Santa Claus and I
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: literally wanted to end my own life. I hated it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: I hated it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: They forced me when Jesus dog is curing the blind
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: child to make him visible again a puppy. They made
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: me cover that set with Christmas tree.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yours makes sense that they would want to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: How does that make sense?
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Okay, I was just wondering, chausse It's Christian, so this
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: is the thing, though, this is the thing. It's just
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: it's like we are being attacked from the inside. You know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: our dogs are being attacked and our people are being attacked.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: So can you confirm the existence of working like a
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: dog gig worker?
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, I can confirm the existence. It exists as a script.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: It doesn't exist as a movie.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Okay, it's out there.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Nobody wants to make it because it's a little too insider.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: But it's cool. It's it's mostly uh, it's mostly my
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: dog Chubby playing goofy, filling out ten ninety nines and
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: driving Ubers, driving Ubers Postmates.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, do they do wag?
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: They do wag and I do. That's a little like you,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: because that's a dog, that's a dog walking a dog.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: That is a dog walking a dog. And I was
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I was hoping.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I was hoping that I wouldn't be the only one
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: in this game who's saving who's talking about dog ownership.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: It's it's really exciting to see.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: I was hoping.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I've had a dog walk the spirit of an old dog.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: You and a dog walk the spirit of an oldld dog.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: So it was a dog walking in dog, but the
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: dog was had died.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And was the dog physically dead? Was it being pushed
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: along or was it.
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: We shot it both ways. We shot it both ways.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: It's good to have it both way, Yes, especially when
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: you were you have to just go for another one
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: just in case you never know.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: I yeah, I had a lot of dogs walking actually
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Jesus Christ dog to the actual crucifixion.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: So that was powerful scene.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: We got to wrap up. Is if anybody wants to
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: say one quick thing to camera, maybe the young dogs
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: out there hoping to get into the industry. You can
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: speak in human or you can speak to the dogs.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: What you want.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: First I just want to say out there. I know
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I talked a lot about.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Mistakes that young dogs make when they're meeting with someone
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: like me. But if I had to say anything, it's
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: just be yourself. You know, don't bark when you're the
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: kind of dog who woolfs, don't yap when you're the
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: kind of dog who bites.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: So just be yourlf. And for the pugs out there, well, I'll.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: Say for me on behalf of my work and my
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: body of work.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I want to address that voyage La article about me,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: and I want to address that article because I don't
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: like dog death.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: I like.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: What sadness and the passing of one does to know
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: what they meant. So that article saying that I monopolize
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: on dog death is not I want to turn that around.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I love so to clarify for everyone, voyage La is
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: an article that you write yourself and that is published
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: on my voyage La. So some voyage would have had
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: to contact you, you would have had to put that
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: information out there.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: They wrote it. They wrote it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: You're the first person in history where voyage La has
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: written an article about without unprompted.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: In the storied history of voyage La.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I mean something everyone knows about.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Why would I reach out to a publication and ask
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: them to write it for me?
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: I don't know anyway.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Bark be with you.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: This has been Artists on artists and artists on artists
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: answering the question on that's why they call it show business?
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And if you are a dog interested in adopting another dog,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: please contact the ASPCA.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 44:31
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