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Princess Dream Date · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Famous podcast. I am joined by Ben, who literally goes
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  Speaker 1: on an airplane and stops at a new city every week.
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys want to hear about Ben's travels because
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  Speaker 1: I know we talked about it every week, but like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm truly mind boggled how somebody flies around as often
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  Speaker 1: and how many different foundations you're involved with. Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: very nice. I was just actually so lest we talked.
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  Speaker 1: I gotten back from Ohio and then Jessica and I
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  Speaker 1: which is very nice because I don't always get to
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  Speaker 1: travel with my wife. We just got back from Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: We went to Baltimore this weekend because, as I've mentioned
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  Speaker 1: many times and I can't mention enough, my best friend
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  Speaker 1: was diagnosed with ALS and so this was his big
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  Speaker 1: fundraiser was in Baltimore because his wife was a Balti
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  Speaker 1: More Ravens cheerleader and so the Baltimore Ravens do a
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  Speaker 1: lot to make the event special and so Jessica I
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  Speaker 1: flew out for that this year for the Conley cause.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to still support, you can still do
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  Speaker 1: that at their go fund me pager visit them on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: But it was really cool. Um, so we did a
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  Speaker 1: quick trip out there and now I'm home for a week.
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  Speaker 1: And it's weird when a week feels like a long time,
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  Speaker 1: but it does feels like a long time. I am
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  Speaker 1: going to Nashville for a Humanity and Hope United if
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  Speaker 1: anybody wants to join. It's open to the public. Fundraiser
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  Speaker 1: in Nashville next week and so we have a couple
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  Speaker 1: of board meetings and then a fundraiser, so I'll be
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  Speaker 1: there for that. But yeah, it's open to the public
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  Speaker 1: and we have like a really good In fact, she's
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  Speaker 1: very well known, an incredible chefu minique is I think
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  Speaker 1: it's chewhan is how you say here? She's like all
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  Speaker 1: over the food network. I know who you're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's so weird. What there's a girl that
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  Speaker 1: works at Audrey's who has an internship there at her
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  Speaker 1: restaurant in Nashville, but she's leaving us in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of months to go. Yeah, I guess she's incredible. I've
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  Speaker 1: never had her food, obviously, I know her from television,
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  Speaker 1: but she's coming to do with the food at the event.
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  Speaker 1: So that's gonna be super fun, super fun for that.
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  Speaker 1: Very cool. No, do you have any high tips for
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  Speaker 1: us when it comes to the airport, Like, do you
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  Speaker 1: like you must have some advanced knowledge? I thought that
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  Speaker 1: I got on planes a lot, but like, yeah, what
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  Speaker 1: do you do obviously pre check? And then do you
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  Speaker 1: have Clear and pre check? Oh? Well yes I have both,
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  Speaker 1: but these days I just go through the pre check
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  Speaker 1: line because Clear has backed up. Everybody got Clear. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why and where and how. Some credit card
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  Speaker 1: must have done some type of promotion because everybody has it,
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  Speaker 1: and that line's longer usually and takes longer than preaching. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's because they say, like you're like, oh the lines long,
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  Speaker 1: we can help you get three of that right now today,
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  Speaker 1: just sign up right here. So that's why, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I think so many people have Clear now
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  Speaker 1: that that's why you need to have Clear plus pre
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  Speaker 1: check because that's a whole new line. Now. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a great line. Um, it's a good line. Here's
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  Speaker 1: here's my tips. I'll I'll run through we you know,
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  Speaker 1: a few years ago we did a segment called ben Bitches.
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  Speaker 1: It was awesome. I have a few I missed it
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  Speaker 1: too top down or something. No, we just ran out
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  Speaker 1: of things to get mad about. I don't I don't know. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we stop that because I couldn't come up
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  Speaker 1: with anything else that I was upset about. Most of
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  Speaker 1: my irritability comes from the airport, and so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: start with my three tips to just make everybody's lives
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  Speaker 1: easier at the airport. Okay, My first one, UM very
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  Speaker 1: obvious one for most people. When you're on an airplane, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you exit by rows, typically front to back. Sometimes there's
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  Speaker 1: like an exit in the middle, and you wait till
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  Speaker 1: the person in front of you, no matter how slow
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  Speaker 1: they are, no matter how lazy they are are or
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  Speaker 1: old they are, so it takes them a while to
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  Speaker 1: get out. You wait for them to leave, like that's
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  Speaker 1: just gonna help everybody's process. And then you go to
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  Speaker 1: find your bag. You get your bag, and you walk off.
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  Speaker 1: The second thing, when you're at baggage claim, don't stand
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  Speaker 1: up by the baggage claim. It's ridiculous. Nobody can get
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  Speaker 1: their bag. And so when I pull my heavy bag
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  Speaker 1: off with one arm and I hit you with this
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  Speaker 1: bag because you're one foot away from the belt. I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel bad. I don't want to hurt you. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a goal of mine to make somebody cry that day. However,
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  Speaker 1: back up a little bit off the belt so that
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  Speaker 1: everybody get their bag and you when you see your bag,
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  Speaker 1: you walk up at the perfect time, grab your bag,
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  Speaker 1: you leave. It just helps everybody out the next My
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  Speaker 1: final tip before I go into my tips at the airport,
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  Speaker 1: because I do have a couple, would be try wait,
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  Speaker 1: this is bad. What if this is a tip to
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  Speaker 1: the airport. Well, these are the things you shouldn't do.
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  Speaker 1: These are very obvious things you should not do airport manners.
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  Speaker 1: My final tip, it's not really a manner thing, it's
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  Speaker 1: just a helpful thing. You're gonna feel better. Try not
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  Speaker 1: to eat on the plane. Our bodies don't really digest
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  Speaker 1: food well that high up in the sky with that
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  Speaker 1: much altitude and that like kind of little air, and
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  Speaker 1: so try to eat before you get on your plane.
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  Speaker 1: If you can grab some food, and then like nuts
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that are fine that you can process
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  Speaker 1: them pretty easily. But if you eat a big meal
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  Speaker 1: on the plane and you're always wondering why you feel
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  Speaker 1: so bloated and like stuck like a like a swollen
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  Speaker 1: and tired when you get off the planets because your
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  Speaker 1: body is like having food, just sit in its stomach
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  Speaker 1: for as long as that flight is you'll just feel better.
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  Speaker 1: Stay hydrated to those are some life answers for me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the most important thing I can tell you about
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  Speaker 1: flying maybe my best tip for flying. I live in Denver, Colorado. Denver, Colorado.
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  Speaker 1: I actually people would argue with me, and I think
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  Speaker 1: as a great airport. It's a creepy airport, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a good airport. Um. I don't know what it is
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  Speaker 1: about Denver, Colorado's airport bathrooms, but they smell awful and
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  Speaker 1: they hold in the smell like it smells like people
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  Speaker 1: have done terrible things in that bathroom for ten years
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  Speaker 1: and it's just still like circling around and it's a
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  Speaker 1: little humid in there, so you feel like it's like
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  Speaker 1: sticking on your skin. The smell is it's awful. So
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  Speaker 1: my point to this is find the best bathroom. Where
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  Speaker 1: would the best bathroom be? Look for where nobody goes.
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  Speaker 1: Possibly it's a closed terminal, Possibly is a closed the gate.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna walk around looking for a bathroom that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have humidity and stink. Well, just that it doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: used that often. Yeah, you want one that's been cleaned
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  Speaker 1: and not used, because they're gonna still clean it. And
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  Speaker 1: so where would those be? You say, Okay, this sounds
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  Speaker 1: really hard. It sounds like it's gonna be take me
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  Speaker 1: a long time to find this. No, it's not. What
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  Speaker 1: you do is you walk to the very end of
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  Speaker 1: the terminal, like as far down as you can, find
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  Speaker 1: the farthest bathroom from that main entrance of the airport.
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  Speaker 1: Because the only people going down there are people with fights.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like the people who are eating and drinking
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  Speaker 1: and the like common areas are going to be going
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  Speaker 1: to those bathrooms. Find the one farthest away. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the best for you. You're gonna have the best experience.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the cleanest. They typically don't get used.
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  Speaker 1: This is for a number two because I'm not no anything,
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  Speaker 1: well anything, yeah, whatever you want. First off, you're standing
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  Speaker 1: when you pee, So why do you care about it?
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  Speaker 1: A good point? Well, just because, um yeah, just because
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  Speaker 1: the sanitation my final thing. Actually I'll close you here,
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  Speaker 1: and most of it goes around bathrooms. Um is don't
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  Speaker 1: bring you know what really grosses me out, Like it
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  Speaker 1: gross me out when I don't see people wash their
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  Speaker 1: hands leaveing the bathroom because of especially today. You know,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what you feel about the vaccine or the
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  Speaker 1: boosters um, the COVID exists. It. You know, flu exists,
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  Speaker 1: disease exists, and airports are a place that it exists
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  Speaker 1: at a pretty high volume. I'll just say that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I will leave and use hit hands intizer. I mean
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  Speaker 1: there's something about the like sometimes you're washing your hands
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  Speaker 1: and then you realize there's no soap left. Hate wet
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  Speaker 1: hands with no soap. There's just something weird mentality. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. That's fine. Just clean your hands. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's really it that that Just clean your hands. So
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  Speaker 1: I can I can understand, like I can get over
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  Speaker 1: the fact that maybe you didn't wash your hands. Was
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  Speaker 1: my point, because maybe you are leaving and using sanitizer.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay with me. Here's the thing that I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to see anybody do ever. Okay, ever, and people
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  Speaker 1: might get mad at me for this, that's okay. I'm
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  Speaker 1: calling you out right now. You know who you are.
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  Speaker 1: Do not bring your open lid like drinks into the bathroom,
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  Speaker 1: like a coffee or a straw smoothie or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Leave it outside, don't buy it until after you've done
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  Speaker 1: what you need to do. It's disgusting, it is, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not good for you. You should I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: it's disgusting for me. I'll get over it. I just
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  Speaker 1: saw it happen. It doesn't affect me. But what it
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  Speaker 1: does do is like about your health. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to see you sipping on something that has also
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  Speaker 1: been inside of a closed space with a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: random strangers doing whatever they're doing in there. It's not
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  Speaker 1: worth it for you. You've got to go and look
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  Speaker 1: at a YouTube video or something to see how much
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  Speaker 1: the water particles and the German particles spread once you
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  Speaker 1: hit that flush. Yeah, it's disgusting, so pretty gross. Just
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  Speaker 1: listen to those tips. You're gonna have a better experience
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  Speaker 1: in the bathroom, and you're gonna have a better experience
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  Speaker 1: in the airport in general, and your travel is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a lot easier. And also, try not to
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  Speaker 1: check a bag. Just bring a bag with you on
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  Speaker 1: the plane if you can. It makes it so much faster. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but Ben, I have a few things to make comments
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  Speaker 1: of Based on all of that, you said that the
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  Speaker 1: Denver Airport is creepy. I like it because it has
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  Speaker 1: a great food selection. Sure does, especially in that United terminal,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is the only one I've ever been in,
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  Speaker 1: because it's like such a huge hub. Now there's two
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  Speaker 1: reasons why it's creepy. There's like this weird horse you
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  Speaker 1: want to tell everybody with the weird eyes as you enter,
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  Speaker 1: and nobody knows, like what it is you are like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you know this yet, but
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  Speaker 1: our restaurants are going up in the Denver Airport. I
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  Speaker 1: can't say what terminal yet, that's still a secret. But
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  Speaker 1: they're going up here in the next few months, so
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  Speaker 1: you can come visit some of our some of our
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  Speaker 1: favorites at Culinary, Creative, Little Shot Out too Cool. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So now Denver did a whole renovation. Some people this
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  Speaker 1: will be boring. I'll go through this quick because you've
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  Speaker 1: you don't fly now. As decorations, they've put gargoyles up
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  Speaker 1: on some of the pillars in the airport, which just
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  Speaker 1: makes it weirder. That makes it so much weirder. They're
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  Speaker 1: just leaning in. They're leaning in, and I think they're
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  Speaker 1: leaning in because there are some creepy things about the
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  Speaker 1: airport and they think that if they just make it
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  Speaker 1: a big joke, nobody will continue to ask questions. But
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  Speaker 1: there are some weird things you should watch a YouTube
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  Speaker 1: video to get fully caught up on, like underground like
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  Speaker 1: bunkers and weird paintings and odd Just to simplify for people,
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  Speaker 1: they say that, like the Denver Airport is basically constructed
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  Speaker 1: for like the end of the world. Like there's a
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  Speaker 1: few people and like we'll be able to like get
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  Speaker 1: access and like live down there. And then there's like
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  Speaker 1: a headquarters, some sort of headquarters is down there. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then they say there's like a prison, so if
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  Speaker 1: people like act out during that apocalyptic time, they can
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  Speaker 1: be held at the bottom of the Denver Airport. But
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  Speaker 1: the folk tale or the real story it matters so
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  Speaker 1: you talk to is we have a big old blue
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  Speaker 1: horse when you drive into our airports with red eyes.
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  Speaker 1: The people, multiple people have been killed during the setup
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  Speaker 1: of this horse. So the horse actually fell over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the story is that it fell over and killed the
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  Speaker 1: architect and the designer of this structure, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: it's so weird. But it has red eyes, and so
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, even if it never hurt anybody, it's
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  Speaker 1: still a very odd structure. It stands out. Nobody drives
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  Speaker 1: past it and goes, wow, that's just a beautiful, normal
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  Speaker 1: looking horse. It looks like it. I mean, it has
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  Speaker 1: read glaring. It looks demonic. So that's really what we're
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  Speaker 1: known for. That's why we live on the opposite side
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  Speaker 1: of the town of the airport. We're just as far
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  Speaker 1: away from that as we can be. But yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is my tips for flying and traveling. I've gotten better
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  Speaker 1: at it over the years. Ashley to drastically switch topics,
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  Speaker 1: I need your help, Okay, drastically switched topics. I need
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  Speaker 1: your help about something personal in my life that I'm
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  Speaker 1: struggling with. I feel like it has to a dog.
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  Speaker 1: It does. Yesterday I took Whalen on a walk. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he was running. It was really windy here. He was
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  Speaker 1: running after things, and all of a sudden he ran
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  Speaker 1: after a leaf and barely miss getting hit by a car.
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  Speaker 1: And I am not okay, Like my heart hurts, like
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  Speaker 1: my I have like trauma. Now he's fine, right, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't get hit, but like I had to pull him
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  Speaker 1: back and I luckily saw the car coming through the
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  Speaker 1: corner of my eye and I pulled him back. Everything's fine,
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  Speaker 1: but just that moment in general shook me, Like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't sleep last night. Just can do that. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: stopped thinking about it. He's probably confused. Don't want to
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  Speaker 1: keep hugging him and just like leaning in. So my
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  Speaker 1: question in general for the audience and for you is
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  Speaker 1: how do you get like, am I crazy one for
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  Speaker 1: having like some like post traumatic stress from this? Two?
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  Speaker 1: If I'm not crazy from it, but it's happening though
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  Speaker 1: in general, so even if it's a weird thing that
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  Speaker 1: I am, I need your help. How do you get
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  Speaker 1: through these things? Like how do you in life have
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  Speaker 1: something traumatic happen to you big or small, and then
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  Speaker 1: how do you move on through it and continue with
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  Speaker 1: life and not have that like affect your dreams and
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  Speaker 1: affect your sleep and affect your normal day. Okay, first off,
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  Speaker 1: you're definitely not crazy for that, But I have a
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  Speaker 1: follow up question, like why do you let the leash
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  Speaker 1: go so far? It's one of those stretchy leashes we're
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  Speaker 1: in our neighborhood, and I didn't like, I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: any cars coming, like we're walking in our street and
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  Speaker 1: typically normal names when they see some a dog and
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  Speaker 1: a person walking, they stop behind you until like you
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  Speaker 1: see him, and then they're like gro passed once you
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  Speaker 1: get like control. This car did not. No, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: always have her on it tightly because she's a wild woman. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm about too. I think that's what I'm gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's no longer free reign for my buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And secondly, I think it's hilarious that you're
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  Speaker 1: just like so obsessed and in love with Whalen. When
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  Speaker 1: I would talk about Lois like this obviously for years
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  Speaker 1: and you'd be like, okay, okay, you love your dog. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're awesome. I don't have a dog. I don't get it,
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  Speaker 1: And now you get it. He's my buddy. Hilarious, he's
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  Speaker 1: my buddy. Um. Then, thirdly, to answer a question, man,
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  Speaker 1: I wish this is like so almost obnoxious for me
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  Speaker 1: to say, and I hate saying it out loud, but
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember like a moment of trauma. But even
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  Speaker 1: with Dawson, like you don't have a moment you get scared,
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  Speaker 1: Like I have intrusive thoughts with him. Okay, so that's
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  Speaker 1: like a little bit different. Like yesterday, I dropped him
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  Speaker 1: off at my in laws for like two hours so
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  Speaker 1: I can get my nails done, and I knew that
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  Speaker 1: they were going to take him for a walk, so
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  Speaker 1: I just like so nonchalantly, like you know, handed him
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  Speaker 1: off to them, and I was like, okay, I'm leaving.
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  Speaker 1: And then as soon as I'm pulling out, I'm thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what if they are starting to do What if they
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  Speaker 1: go on a walk with him and there's a distracted
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  Speaker 1: driver and they hit this car seat at his stroller. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's my immediate thought. And then I totally freaked myself
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  Speaker 1: out because it's, I know, an intrusive thought, but at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, it's so it could be so realistic.
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  Speaker 1: That's my fear of being a parent, because I have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of those just today, about Jessica, about my family,
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  Speaker 1: about my friends, about my dog. Like I spend I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm a lot of my day fighting these
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  Speaker 1: intrusive thoughts and I don't know a lot about it.
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  Speaker 1: And so maybe it'd be helpful for us actually to
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  Speaker 1: bring somebody onto our podcast and talk with us about
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, like just what do people do? Because I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure we're not the only ones. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think so at all. Listeners, please tell us if we're
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  Speaker 1: the only ones who ever have these kind of thoughts
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  Speaker 1: pop in. But they happen to me often, and they're
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  Speaker 1: like they're at times like very suffocating. Oh yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: then I'm getting I'm almost done with my nails, and
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  Speaker 1: I text my mother in law and I see how
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  Speaker 1: how he's doing. I'd be like, I'm gonna be leaving
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  Speaker 1: here in twenty minutes, and she didn't respond, so I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: obviously start thinking scary things and I had to look
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: at fine my friends to make sure that she was
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: at home and not at the ERM. So this is
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: how it is leaving her child. Yeah, yeah, I think
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: it's very very common. I also think it's something I've
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: been doing my entire life. It's way harder and scarier
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: when you have a kid. And I think it's just
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: becoming more of a conversation topic, Like we're kind of
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: like just now admitting to like all these thoughts that
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: we have throughout the day that are dooming. Yeah, yeah,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: it'd be it's a it's a topic I think I
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: want to explore here in the Almost Famous podcast. I
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: think a little offbeat for us, but I'm down. Hey,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: we know we're about spiritual offseason topic for sure. We're
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: about spiritual health, mental health, physical health, and the bachelor's health,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: which we have to talk about now. Right after this break,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: we're going to jump into breaking down this week's episode
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of The Bachelor and the health of our bachelor. Who. Well, yes,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: good transitions. Maybe it wasn't as healthy this episode. We'll
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: be back right after this, all right, Ben, you're ready
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to dive into the episode finally. Sorry, if you guys
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: got tired of our ramble, I thought, yeah, they enjoyed that,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: they liked it. We'll make up their mind for that,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: all right. So I liked this episode. Actually, I was
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: fully engaged, and I was very exciting for me. I
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: know we were rough on him a couple of weeks ago.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I'm finding him to be I'm finding the past couple
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: of weeks have gotten more intriguing for me. And I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: will begin with Gabby's date, Gabby's one on one. I
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: love Gabby's one on one. It was the ultimate. It
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: was the date it was my dream date. This was
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: my dream at bachelor date. It's a little princess oriented,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: which if you watched my season, you know that I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: was very jealous of one of my very good friends, Jade,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: because she got a princess date, and I knew that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: they may have done that. Well, they knew they were
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: going to get a reaction out of me if they
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: didn't put me on that date and the guy didn't
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: like me enough to put me on a one on
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: one and that's okay. But they also knew the right
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: person upon the date, Jade, which is like who she's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: like just a natural princess. And they knew that Greer
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: in this case was going to want this date, probably
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the most because of the subject matter, because apparently she
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: loves Tea so much that she tattooed on her head
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: like her wrist. It's intense. That's an intense love for Tea.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But they also were like, we're not giving it to her.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And apparently, according to the girls and maybe Zach, the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: girls say that Zach has been making sure that each
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: girl goes on a date that is best suited for
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: their personality. Ben, I need to know how much do
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you choose the girl because of the subject matter of
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the date, like, come on, this is your selection this week.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: You can choose from these girls to take on the date.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: No how it works is this You just get back
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: home from a group date or you just gotten to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you your city, and the producers come in and they say, so,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you the whole process. So they say, okay,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: here's what's going on this week, and you say, okay, great,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: who do you want to bring on these dates? And
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you kind of think and you go, Okay, I just
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: brought this person on date last week, even though I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: love for her to come back with me on this date.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in this person, And you say, okay, I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: would like to bring her on this date, right, And
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: then they will either say that's a good idea or hey,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that's not a good idea. Sometimes they'll say, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: next week, you have that really cool date where you're
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: going to go on a helicopter ride to a vineyard,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and that girl actually loves wine, so maybe you should
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: bring somebody else on the date this week and bring
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: them on a date next week where you know they're
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: gonna love that even more. You're the problem. There is
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to convince them that you still like
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: them because they haven't gone on a one on one
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and it's week six, and so are you cool with that?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: So there is a conversation, and I would say it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: would be great to give Zach all the credit that
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: he is perfectly pick these dates for each individual woman.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: That can't be true because you don't You don't always
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: know like how great a date's going to be the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: next week. I here's what I'm not convinced of. The
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: show is so good. The producer is so good at
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: convincing you that the thought was your own that I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: don't know if they already know who's going on this
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: date before you do, and you've just somehow now told them, yeah,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that's the person that's gonna go. I don't. I don't know.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes you're kind of convinced in a
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: really good creative way, but you do have say um,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you do have say there. So if he's intentional about
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: making sure these dates are specific for each individual woman,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that's awesome. I just think he he couldn't do that
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the whole season because ultimately, right, it just doesn't work
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: out that way. Okay, Okay, so I love this date
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. She got to wear a crown, she
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: got to play with corgies, she got to experience like
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: royal life trying on those dresses so fun. I also
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: loved his reaction to her, and the dress was so adorable,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Like I think I actually audibly said ah, and um,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: let's see what else? The perfume thing. Creating a perfume
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: fitted for like a royal or yourself was kind of
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: an awesome interaction. It's kind of like a fun activity.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: It was something that you could like have banter with,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I think, and what else. I just everything about that date,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: like step by step, there was something interesting that they
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: were doing and it played with where they were. I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: just think that it was a great date in getting
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to know somebody's personality, like get your flirt on, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I do know a couple of notes here, Ashley to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: kick it off. I'm surprised that you liked this episode,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: especially with kind of the um just this. What we
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: felt like was the slowness in the first couple of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: couple episodes, like I'm so I'm surprised when I talked
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to you today that you said down You're like I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: really liked this episode. I expected you to be more
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: on the side of that was just a weird two
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: hours that could have been like I saw funny tweet
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: this said, this could have been all done an email
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: like it because it was so much efertually. Um, so
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it's interesting me. We'll get into that later. I also
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: just want to know for my own pride that I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: did mention since week one that I felt like Greer
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: was going to go home earlier than expected and that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it wasn't going to work out like we think it would.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I actually said it last week. Still there, still there,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I get that, But can we start to now see
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that maybe, just maybe she's not a top three or
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a top four in the eyes of Zach okay for sure? Okay, sure,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: hanging by a thread? What I what I liked about
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this episode was but I truly didn't know how it
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: was going to play out. In two ways. One, we
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: didn't stick with you know, we weren't going to be
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: able to stick with the formula with him being sick,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: So it was kind of like a, oh, what are
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: they going to do? How are they going to work
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: this out? And that was keeping me interested. And then
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it was also the fact that I had no idea
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: who he was going to eliminate, especially come that cocktail party,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: that digital cocktail party, because it seemed like he was
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: driving with everyone except for Greer, and I will admit
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I thought Greer was gonna be gone because I couldn't
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: even think of anyone else to eliminate. There. I was like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: possibly Mercedes, but I thought we just hadn't seen much over. Yeah,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: we just hadn't seen much over. This episode did bring us.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I think that What Will Go Down is one of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the most iconic comedic scenes in Bachelor history, at least
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it was for me. I was laughing really hard at
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: somebody else's expense, which I love. When Gavey was walking
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: through with all of her shopping bags and grew was
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: sitting in front of her room, I thought that was hilarious,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Like the fact that Greer got hit by a bag
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: as Gabby was walking down the hallway with because she
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: was so upset with the date and she thought that
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: date would be perfect for her. And then Greer just
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: happened to be sitting in front of Gabby's room, so
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I had to stand up and move so that Gabby
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: could bring her fifty bags into the room. I thought
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: was hilarious. I was dying to know whether it was
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: staged or not. How did you stage it? I mean,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's like they tell her, They're like, go
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to room four twelve, and then like she gets there
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, oh, Gabby, I'm sorry it's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: this one. This one. Yeah. Well still, even if it
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was even if the producers within two minutes were smart
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: enough to do that and pull that off, it's brilliant
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and it's amazing television. It was good. It was good,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and I know that people are rolling their eyes watching
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Greer respond to this. The fact that she had to leave,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you know, the group part, the fact that she's crying
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: about tea because she had a She has a tea tattoo,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and tea means a lot to her. And I's so
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I so understand that it seems silly, but I've been
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: in this situation and it's not that silly. Like, imagine
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: your favorite just imagine while you're competing for a guy,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and then you get to experience what you've always wanted
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to experience with a guy, but then you're not the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: one experiencing it. It's just it is kind of It's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it's just a little devastating. It's silly and devastating, But
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it's this kind of thing that I'm sure Greer was
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: laughing at watching herself last night. Did you laugh at yourself? Oh? Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, I think a lot of people
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: didn't understand that I was totally poking boy of myself.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I was being very self deprecating when I decided to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: dress up like Cinderella and have like my little mice
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: when Jade was out on the date, like, I was
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: making fun of the whole situation already in the situation.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Did I feel extreme envy when she came in for
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the fitting of the dress and was putting on the slippers. Yeah,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: for sure, I was like, I'm super jealous, but like
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I also realized it was like all it was. It
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: was like it was just fun. It was like being fun.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that I don't think that Greer
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: necessarily it was fun envy. I don't know if that's
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: super weird. It's only something you could probably experience on
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. She does have a tattoo of tea like
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: me wanting a princess date. That doesn't seem to be
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: extremely unique. I think like every girl would like to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: have a princess date to go shopping to try in
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: those dresses. It's kind of just like ultimately everybody's dream date.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: But with Greer it was so specific, like the girl
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: loves tea? Who loves tea? Like that A lot of
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the customers that buy tea from generous. I think you've
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: come across somebody who has attack too of a teacup.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: No no, no, and I don't have a coffee being
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: on that leg? You know? Was it the date, Ashley
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: or was it the fact that Greer feels so left behind?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And there's okay? So this date could have been any date,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: you know, any date could have been perfect. This was
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: an incredible date, Like I had multiple different facets. It
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: looked like a lot of fun. I feel like at
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: this point I'm busy. It kept them having something new
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to talk about the entire time, and that's what I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: liked because I know that sometimes it's like, oh, big
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: activity and then dinner. But this like kind of kept
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it continuous, and that's what I would have preferred while
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: being on the Bachelor. Anyway, enough of what I prefer, Well,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: we care about what you prefer But I think at
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: this point in the season we see it every season
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: where the contestants are starting to feel left behind. They're
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: starting to ask the question, why haven't I gotten the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: one on one yet? Does Zach not really care about me?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: We had such a good connection four weeks ago, but
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I haven't really seen him since then. What do I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: do to stand out? Oh? Today? And then possibly every week,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you have somebody telling you this is your week, this
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: has to be the week that you get the one
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: on one. You're gonna get the one on one this week,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be your time. And so when that
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: card is read and it's not you and you're then
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: on a group date, there is a massive amount of
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: emotion involved. There is even for you know, the guys
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: on my season, when I was on Kalen season, the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: guys that weren't getting the dates. At first, it's fine
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and it's cool, and then all of a sudden you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: start to get kind of confused and sad and wondering
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: where to exactly do I stand. And so I think
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that's where Greer's at. I think this could have been
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: any date and she would have been just as sad,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: maybe not just as sad or there'd be like a
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: jealousy factor a little but east anyway, I totally understand
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you're saying yes, But I also think the more you
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: focalize it, the more the less likely you are to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: get that one on one would Yes, it's great TV
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: when somebody is freaking out. That's I mean, that's it is.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I would recommend anybody. Here's my tip. I don't know
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: how it happens every time, but if you are somebody
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: who's very upset or jealous or envious, as best as
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you can, just hold it to yourself, like sit through it, smile,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: sit in that room as she's talking about all the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: things that they did, just so that you aren't the
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: center of attention that then they're gonna like pull that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: emotion more out of you and make it a little
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: bit of a bigger deal than you even knew it was.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Just stay quiet, sit in it, be there, and then
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: move on. Yeah. That's great advice and one that I
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: have a very hard time following. And it's really hard,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: of course, following that advice when you are a new
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: bee on the show. I think you kind of know
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: better once second or third time around. But yeah, so
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: she doesn't really know what she's doing, but she's making
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a horrible mistake by vocalizing how bad she feels held back. Yeah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: there's just so well, let's talk about Gabby's connection. Yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I would say this. I'm still keeping with my word.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I think there's zero chance that Greer and Zach end
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: up together, especially after how this episode played out. You
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna debate you here. Good. I think
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that she's going to hang around for a long time,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and I think there's a reason we didn't see her
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: a lot in the scenes in the next episode. I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: think they're really trying to set us out. They're really
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: trying to put us on a wrong path. I hope
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I kind of like grew. I like this,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: she's emotional. I like this she's telling us how she feels.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's the smart decision, but I like
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that it's happening, and I think she does care. Um,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: we'll talk more about Greer as the episode ends. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: kind of feel bad. Form might be the unpopular opinion,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: but yeah, we feel bad for her. I want her
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: to get her chance because there was something there, and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I know that we are jumping ahead again, but like,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: let me just say this, she gets the rose, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I think she gets the rose over the other two girls,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Kylie and Mercedes, because Zach's like, Okay, I've had such
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: a strong moment with her, and maybe the moments haven't
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: been like there haven't been a lot of those moments,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: but I had that moment at some points, like hopefully
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I can get another one like that. But I guess,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: like with the Mercedes and Kylie, he probably just never
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: felt something that intense. Yeah, I think that's fair. Okay,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: all right, so Gabby. I think Gabby shoots the top
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: of my list. I think Gabby goes ahead of Brooklyn
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: now and I think she's in my top three with
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Katie kat and herself. Really yeah, I think he really
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: liked her. I was seeing some tweets and stuff that
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: like they had no chemistry maybe like they didn't have
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: like the sexual chemistry that he had with Cat last week.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But they have a good time together. I think he's
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: really looking for that. Yeah, they had a lot of
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: fun and she does allow him to be goofy, which
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: he is. He's made that very clear. She did make
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a comment that I've never heard before, and this might
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: be a new thing. But she goes, I'm not a kisser,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I'm a cuddler. Cuddler, yeah, is that a thing. Yeah,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I think I get more out of I personally get
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: more at this stage in our relationship from cuddling than kissing.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But I do feel like it's a little different when
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you're at her stage of the relationship because I think,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like when it's new, you get more of a chemistry
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: vibe by kissing, and I also think you get more
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: of a reassurance vibe while kissing, because it's just more
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: of a romantic thing. That's fair. I would like to
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: know anybody that feels like they would be in this
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: stage of the relationship more of a cuddler than a kisser.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I would just want to know more about that. I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: want you to explain to me. I'm interested in what
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that exactly, Like, why cuddling feels intimate to you, Why
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that's what you would be drawn to. You know, it's
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: just interesting when you first meet somebody, there's a physical attraction,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: there's a there's chemistry, and then you'd be like, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: just want to cuddle, Like, don't kiss me, just cuddle,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: because that's kind of what I was hitting like, That's
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: what I was hearing there was I would much prefer
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you just cuddle me, then I would you kiss me,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: which feels different than any other situation I've ever heard antic.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: It feels like she's craving safety and comfort in that,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and I think possibly she's thinking about a previous relationship
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: when saying that, because I think when you're in a
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: long term relationship, cuddling can feel give you a certain
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: level of closeness and then when it comes right right,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: what do you feel like You've been with Jess for
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: so long, You've been kissing for you know, four years,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: so like, would you rather cuddle or a kiss? Well,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I asked her this last night. I said, are you
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a cuddler or a kisser? She goes, I'm both, And
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's like, yes, that's how we are. Like,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: it's both. It's you know, we're not sitting in bed
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: at night and watching Netflix and just make it out
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: for you know, three hours. That's not how life works.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: But you're both like both have their own specific place
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and that's why I thought the comment was interesting. I've
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: just never compared the two I've seen, but I've never
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: seen those two things not be aligned in some way,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: but very personal question. And this is funny because I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: talk about this on the I Don't Get a podcast
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a lot with Nas because she's never had a super
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: long term relationship and she imagines that like after being
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: together for five years like me and jured, that we'd
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: still like just make out on the couch randomly, do
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you ingest when it's not leading somewhere else ever, just
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: make out for the sake of making out, and then
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like you just go eat dinner afterward. No, yeah, I
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: mean we like kiss like I just she just left
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: for work and I gave her a kiss before she left, goodbye,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: good night, all that. Yeah. Yeah, but we don't just
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: like teenage like sit on the couch and make out
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and then be like that was awesome, Like, no, that's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: not how life works anymore. It'd be cool, I got,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I'd be down, but it would definitely be like kind
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of funny. We laugh. Yeah, I think I think that, Like,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's cool and a thing when you're like
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a teenager and it's new and hormones are raging and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you're like just any contact with them starting. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and yeah, you're right, Yeah, when you're dating and starting obviously,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: like you know, Jessica and I's situation was different and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: so we spent a lot of time just kissing and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like sitting on the couch and all that and so
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: different then. But now it's kind of like, wait, you know, no,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: this is this is not how we're spending our evening.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: And if it is, like it's going somewhere, Okay, all right,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: so now you understand now, I now you understand where
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: she's coming from. I think she's just talking thinking about
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: previous relationship and being like sure, yeah, I preferred to snuggling.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: It was just an it was an interesting comment. It
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: was interesting. Should we move on to the group dates?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: That was not a date? Um? Yes, I do have
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: one thing in my notes here. I want to bring up,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: okay about this situation in general, and I think it's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a tell of Zach's Okay, we're able to kind of
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: understand him more now because we've seen more of him.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: It's interesting to me when Zach chooses to confront not
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: like confronting like hey, you're going home type of way,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: and when he doesn't, I feel like a comment like that,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: especially with what we've seen from Zach in terms of
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: his desire to kiss. You know, starting night one, he
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: was kissing and he's been very kissy since then. That
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you know, Greer again says Hey to him, something about
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I can relate a little bit because I had a
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: sales job. I know what she was trying to say there.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It did not come off great, but I get what
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: she was trying to do. I feel like that was
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: just like a nervous, like awkward comment. She's like, I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: get what you know. I had a sales job and
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I got sick and then it made me nervous and anxious.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And he's like, no, it's not at all the same.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for my wife here. It's like, okay, semantics, Yes,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, Zach, you are taking this
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: very serious. But he confronted that situation. It's interesting me
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that he did not confront Gabby on this comment when
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: she said I'm not really a kisser. Like, we didn't
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: really see much follow up from that. I mean, we
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: saw one question, but I'm surprised he didn't like dig
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: into that a little bit more because he has been
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: digging in to some of these comments and these questions
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: throughout the whole season. So it's interesting me when he
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: chooses to and when he doesn't. That was my comment.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Perhaps he did and we didn't see it, Sure, but
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: we didn't see it. But also at the same time,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't feel as if there would be
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a follow up. I just didn't feel that fair enough.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go onto the group date. Okay, group date.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: So there was no group date. The girls went out.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: They explored London. The complaining was hilarious, but I know
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it was like complaining. I know how this thing works.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: You know, you're they're interview in interviews and they're saying,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: how upset are you? Like is this fun? Like are
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you like glad you went out today? And they're like, well,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: it suck because because Zach's not here, and you're like
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and they're like, well, do you feel like it's like
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: even like you think that you should have even done it,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And they're like, well, a lot of it kind of
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: feels pointless. You know, I understand how the interview process
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: works and how we get this whole scene of them
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: being like bummed out about Zach not coming, but at
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, like what do you want
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: from my guy? You know, it was weird you know
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: what was weird about this was I actually, no, I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: want to say one more thing before I go on
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to what was weird. First we see the complaining part.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Then we see the girls surrender to the fact that
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Zack's not going to be there and they should make
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the best of it. And I liked that scene when
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: they're in the bar, they're chucking beers. That was really fun.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: That's what I would have hoped that they chose to
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: do with the day. And then it got weird when
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the girls get ready and it look all beautiful and
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: they're at the night portion of the group day and
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: they're hoping Zach's going to show up, and then they
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: get the note that he's not feeling well still and
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: he's not coming. Now one, i'd be super frustrated because
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I would have hyped myself up because I would have
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: known a big deal it was going to be to
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: see him. I would have planned what I was going
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: to be saying. It's just that anxiety level that you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: have while preparing for the Bachelor is kind of something.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: It takes up a lot of mental space, so I
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: would been annoyed about that. I would have also been
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: annoyed at the fact that they hadn't he get ready
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: so much, looks so nice, and then I wouldn't have
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: any man to see it. That would have been frustrating.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: But the girls were so wacky because they like truly
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: were mad at Sack. Could you not did you notice this?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: They were mad at him, like they're like, I feel
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: stood up. I feel hurt, and it's like the guy
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: really doesn't feel good, Like you're not being stood up
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: here a few comments. I'd be most upset if I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: was a woman that I put on a dress that
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: now I can't rewear throughout the season because I don't
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: exactly ben thinking like a woman. I love it. Yeah,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you only have so much luggage space. I think you're
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: allowed to checked bags on the trip, on the on
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the travels, and so how many dresses and outfits could
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you actually put in there? Um and keep those good
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: stuff up front? Yeah, so I felt bad from there.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: That's I hope they wear those dresses again. I would
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: respect them, Um, I would be proud of them if
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: they wore those dresses again. My second, I wouldn't remember
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I would have I mean, I would have no clue.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: My next is to their benefit and to the viewers
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: benefit because if you're following Twitter, people are like, wait,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Zach doesn't feel good and he's just leaving these women hanging.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: At this point, they have no clue what's going on
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: with Zach. All we know is viewers, is that he
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, he said it, he feels jet lagged and tired. Well,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: of course you do, buddy, Like that's what you signed
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: up for. You're gonna be tired in jetlagged through the
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: whole season. In fact, you're gonna be like eating weird
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: foods to this whole season. Your stomach is gonna be
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: jacked up, your mind's gonna be it with a tape worm.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: So okay, a parasite. Yes, So at this point, now again,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: this is at this point in the episode of what
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: we know and what we don't know, I'm even as
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a viewer being like, what is going on with this fellow?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Like he needs to get there, he has to go. Really,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: this is what you're thinking. You don't know that they're
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: totally dragging out a COVID diagnosis. I feel like they
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: knew the entire time. Oh, actually, I'm I'm in it,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: like I'm in it by moment by moment, I'm just
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: going with what I know. I'm not over analyzing this
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: from this standpeck point, and I've heard Zach now speak
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: to it. So if he thought he had COVID, I
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: thought we would have heard him say, like, I wonder
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: if it's COVID. No, all he said was he's jetlagged
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: and he has like a bunch of cred in his head. Okay,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: fair enough, you don't want to get the other women sick.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Fair good. But that's all we know. And so it
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't until the next scene that we find out he
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: has COVID. So I get that the women are upset
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: because I'm assuming they're getting even less information about Zach's
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: illness than we are as viewers. They just know Zack
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel good, and so they're hearing this and like,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: does he not care to come? Now? The reaction of
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: he's standing us up, it's a little overblown, Like he's
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: not standing you up. You have to assume the best,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: expect the best out of this guy. You know, there's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of you there. He probably wants to be there,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: so he's not trying to be a jerk here. There's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: no really no room even for him to be a jerk.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: As the bachelor, he has to go these dates even
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to go on this date, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: so you're assuming the best, and so I at that point,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: once he didn't show up to the cocktail party, I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: assume there's more to the story. So here's my conclusion. Yes,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I think they probably were upset. They probably didn't know
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: a lot about the situation. We knew more as viewers
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: than they knew as contestants at this point. I did
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: find it a little odd that none of the women there,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: at least none of the woman we heard from, had
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: any concern about Zach's health, Like not one of them
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: was like very like concerned about is he doing okay?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: They all just kind of like the only people we
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: heard from at least, we're all kind of on the
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: camp of like this dude just stood us up. I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: got sit up this morning, and I got to sit
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: up tonight. That's interesting me that that's where their minds
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: jumped to it. I don't know if it tells you
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: how they feel about Zach, what they expect at is Zach,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: but at least it tells you kind of where they're
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: out in the process and what they're feeling about the process.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's some things chopped out because on
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the show these days you have to I don't think
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you don't have to quarantine in your room for like
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: days beforehand. But their COVID protocols are wild to the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: point of Jared and I were visiting la a couple
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: weeks ago and we went to have lunch with two
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: of the producers, and then there was another producer that
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: was like up in his office and they're like, waved
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to him. You know, she's gonna like get on the phone,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and we wave two him took a glass and I
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: was like, this is ridiculous. Let's just go up there
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and all this study, like so he can meet Dawson
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: and we'll just say hi for like ten minutes in
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the office. And they're like, no, you'd have to get
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: tested before going into the office. Like that's how the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: insane the protocols are. And then there's they can't like
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: have a certain amount of meetings, like you can have
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: like five, six, seven people in a meeting room, but
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: if the meetings beyond that, then they have to sit
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: in their office on zoom when the other person is
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: in the office next to them. That's how like tights,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: their protocols still are on the Bachelor. So if I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: were these girls and they maybe they're suggesting it and
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: questioning it as well, and we don't see it because
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't add that into the edit. But I'm sure
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: most of the girls are saying, like, he's got COVID.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: You guys, you know he has COVID. You know he
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: has COVID, and they're not risking things, and that's I'm
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: assuming that there's chatter about that. However, Ben, yes, you
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: do say that it's weird that the girls don't mention
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: like how he's doing. I would have assumed that if
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor is not going on dates, he must be
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: really freaking sick, like he must really not feel good,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: because that's never happened before. As a fan, you know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you've never seen it before, and you know the bachelors
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: must have been sick and like, look at you, you
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: were diarrheing then entire time, but you showed up. This
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: guy must have been ill to not go on these dates. Well,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: they're probably over. They're probably more sensitive to illness today
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: than they were during my time. Obviously because of COVID.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know and understand, nor
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: am I really care of how strict they are with
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: their COVID policies. Now, I do find like that would
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: be weird, right, That's different than how we're functioning in
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the normal world, And so that is interesting that it's
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a studio thing, you know, it's not like a we
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: all know that's like a it's like a thing to
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: flash forward then, because the next segment here is when
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: we do find out Zach has COVID. Jesse tells the
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: women he has COVID. The reaction is, um, you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: is more like solemn, like melancholy, like people are starting
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: to understand and feel it seems like they're worried about him. Um,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you know. They're then told that they're gonna have this
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: virtual cocktail party. There's some things I want to talk
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: about because I was super interesting and it is really
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: honestly interesting that they even decided to do it for
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the show. H I am so to your point of
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: how strict they are about COVID policies, Okay, And everybody
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: has their own opinions on this, like, hope I'm not
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: being too revealing by saying that, but these girls are
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: getting like tested every day too, I'm pretty sure. Okay. Still,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: so that no matter how you feel about the vaccine
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: and the boosters, you know, that gets into some political
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: some like religious, some like just own personal feelings, no
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: matter how you feel about COVID in general. Like, let's
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: just for the sake of this conversation, let's all agree
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that COVID is a thing. Okay, that's the thing. It's
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: a it's it's it's something that causes people to get sick. Okay,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: that's we have to start at this foundation just for
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the sake of this conversation. Okay, if you want to
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: argue with me on that later, great, But for the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: sake of this conversation, COVID is a thing that makes
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: people sick. Um, And with you mentioning how strict the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: show is on their guidelines and on the testing requirements
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and on how safe they are, it's very interesting to
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: me not that Zach got COVID, who knows how he
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: did it, but that there isn't really any like they
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: still went on a group date, Like if they were
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: that concerned about Zach having COVID and the fact that
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: he was making out with Gabby the night before exactly
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: why aren't they making the girls eyes alight? And Gabby
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: is in the room with all of these women. Then
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: that's where I'm That's when my analysis the show starts kicking,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and I go, did they really think Zach was that sick?
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Did the show really expect him to have COVID? Because
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: if they did, there is zero chance in my mind,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: with how strict they are, that they would have allowed
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: all these women to go out on this group date
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: around the city and into bars and onto buses and
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: be in the general public amongst each other if they
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: had any concern that COVID was spreading amongst their set.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: That they never I don't know if they lied he
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't have it, he didn't have it? Well you, I
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: mean you would say that. I don't want to put
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: words in your mouth, but you would say. With the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Logan situation down in Paradise, you're still confused on if
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: he had COVID or not. I think Zach was sick.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Rumor has it that Logan had COVID? They didn't tell
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: anyone and he wasn't allowed back on the boat. Yeah,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: so was Zach? I do think? I mean, I'm gonna
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: assume he had COVID like I think he did. I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: don't think he felt good. I don't think he wanted
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: to lay in his hotel room in London. I don't
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: know why he wouldn't want to see these women. Maybe
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: he was just tired, but that would be like best
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: case scenario. I'm assuming he has COVID. I don't know
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: why the show would make it anything other than that
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: there's no benefit to them doing virtual cocktail parties. There's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: no like benefit there unless Zoom had a massive deal
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: to you know, on this show. I don't even think
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: they didn't even say Zoom they did so, and so
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just confused on how the process played out logistically
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: amongst the women, because we didn't see any of that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: It just felt like everybody went on his business as usual,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: like Zach didn't exist, and that Zach had no contact
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: with these women. Honestly, Like, I am not at a
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: place to argue what was right and wrong. I don't know.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I just found it interesting and I found it odd
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: with how strict they are that this just the show
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: just kept going. Yeah, I guess they're like, what am
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I supposed to do? I think the most puzzling thing
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: is that they're just cool with having Gabby around. You
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: would have thought at least quarantine Gabby. I don't know. Again,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: like I don't know. I don't want to quarantine. You know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: these are like young, healthy people. But yes, according to
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: how strict they've been, you're I'm surprised. Anyway, moving on,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the digital Let's talk about the digital
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: cocktail party, which when he suggested it, I thought it
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: was going to be like in lieu of a group date.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I thought this is a cocktail party, not necessarily the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: pre rose cocktail party. I again audibly responded. When I
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: heard that it would be ending with the roast ceremony,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is wild, it's intense. Well, we
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: should all be good at it now though, like zoom
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: date should be very common in this gating. Yeah, we've
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: all done it. We've all you know, FaceTime, we zoomed
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: over COVID, we made connections over. Yeah. Sure they should
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: be good at it. Yeah, but you know, it's awkward.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know how people didn't do this, Like, I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: don't know how people go on first dates and stuff
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: without being in the same room. I find myself always
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: being more at a loss for conversation when I'm over
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a screen. No, hilariously, we do a podcast. But it's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: when people when when you're meeting people for the first time,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: you know, when you have like a friend and then
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: their facetiming their friend and they're like, say hi, meet
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: my friend, and You're like, hi, I had no idea
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: what to say to you, but in person it would
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: just come way more naturally. Sure, Okay, well that's fair. Um.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I will say there is something that was brought up
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that I've never publicly told anybody. Somebody I forget who
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: said that they feel weird on this virtual group date
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: because or virtual cocktail party because they can only see
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Zach and they can't see themselves. I find myself. I
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: sit on Zoom meetings most of the day. I work
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: from home, and so I probably have four or five
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: meetings on Zoom or on some type of virtual platform
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: a day, and well, I'm always finding myself looking at myself.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just less awkward, I don't know.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if I'm looking at myself.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just more looking in the direction of myself because
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: it feels more comfortable and Zach kind of responded said yeah,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Zach responded like it was weird, Like, yeah, Zach thought
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: it was like conceited. Yeah, So like, am I I
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: mean I might be. I mean I I would be
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: very open to anybody telling me any issues with myself.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm conceited, and maybe I'm the only one other
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: than Greer in the world that doesn't find that weird.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: But I do it. I do, of course we do.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: And right now you're speaking to me sideways. Well I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: don't even see you looking into the phone sideways like this. Yeah, yeah,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: am I the only one definitely not looking at me
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: in that case? So, but no, you're not weird. Right
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: now currently, without even thinking about our conversation topic, I'm
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: looking at myself while talking. I think I look at
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: you when you're talking, and then I look at myself
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: when I'm talking. Yeah. So why did Zach have such
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a problem with this? Is he just that he is? He?
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Are we seeing he is because he was sassy again
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: with Greer when she was trying to say something nice
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: and relate with him. So here is my comment going
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: back to before. Is he just kind of I mean,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: he kept her around, But is he just getting like
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: annoyed by her. It seems like he is, Yeah, he
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: just doesn't like her right now. Yeah, I don't know.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: He was scary with her. I would have been like,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to self eliminate. I mean, I sense that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: she was so weird she wasn't gonna get a rose,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: but once she got the rose, she felt like she
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: was right back in the game. Well she should feel
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: like that. She should feel pretty powerful having such a
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: crappy moment and then being able to rebound from it
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: or have him be like still interested enough to like
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: really give her the chance that she's been craving. I
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: felt I felt bad for her. He was being cold,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: and we know that he's like this, Like I'm not
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: saying he's a cold guy, but he can be cold.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: He'd be blunt, like every time people somebody's like I'm
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: feeling this way, Like he doesn't sugarcoat it. He's like,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm feeling that way too, And that
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: can be like intimidating. I feel like people don't really
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: know how to respond to bluntness like that. Sometimes they're
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: usually like taken aback, And I would have been taken aback,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: like the fact that he like wasn't giggling like I
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: think we'd all try to make the other person feel
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: better in like the moment where like you and I
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: just had the conversation about like where we look when
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: we're on a video chat, and it was like kind
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, it's not funny, hall, but it's like,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you know, a little bantery, and then you kind of
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: can make fun of the other person. But he didn't
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: like make fun of her in like a lighthearted way.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: And then this thing about her comparing him finding a
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: wife to her last quarter sales and her trying to
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: relate and yes, it not being of course as serious
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: of a matter, but you know, in her heart, she
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: was just trying to relate and start a conversation and
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: he didn't like it. So what do you think, Well,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I think if Kat would have said the same thing,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: he'd have been cool with it exactly. Yeah, been fine.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's telling to me that he's just
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: not into it. You know, those kind of comments get
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: you know this, like you're married, and people out there
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: listening are married or in a serious relationship. If these
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: types of comments are gonna throw you off, like it's
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: going to be a long road in a relationship, like
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: these things get said every day, Like I say something
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: stupid as Jessica when I'm trying to relate with her
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: or I'm trying to explain a situation to her, she
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: says something to me that like is like what, like
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like you just you have
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: to just like deal with it where humans were saying
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: weird stuff and we're trying and especially in a situation
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: where it's very uncomfortable in general, especially one it's uncomfortable.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: You're on the Bachelor. You're talking to somebody for the
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: first few times on camera. Secondly you've been thrown with this.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: You're gonna talk via screen, yes, and then they'll be
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: on camera. This is so such an awkward situation that
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have like that nervous that like nervous energy
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: where you just say stupid things to fill the void.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: And so I think it was I just think it's
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: telling that he's not that into her, honestly, and that's
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: okay if he's not, he doesn't have to be. But
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I just think it's telling that he's he's not that
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: into her, because if you were into somebody, you would
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: either laugh at off or be like wait, tell me
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: that again, like you're crazy, like you stare your cell
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: phone camera. I've never done that, like you would just
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: play with it a little bit, because that's just humans
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: being humans, trying to communicate with each other in a
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: very weird environment. And so I just think he's not
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: that into her, and that's well, that's why I have
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: my theory that I don't think she's gonna be around
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: much longer. Well then why do you think that, Like
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: he didn't choose Kylie over her because he seemed to
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: be enjoying Kylie. Um, that's a good question. I think
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: there's more to Greer to figure out. I think there's
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: a side of him maybe where he's going. Greer and
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: eyes conversation was so awkward and weird, and we've had
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: such a good history that I can't just say goodbye
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: like this to her. But yet, like I know, Kylie
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: and Mercedes aren't my wife, and so I can say
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: goodbye to them. I feel like we're on good terms.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: But Greer, I'd like to try to do this in person.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: That's why I think next week, if I had to
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: bet on it, I think Greer is going home, And
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happened by him having a conversation
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: with her in person. I can see the in person
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: thing feeling like the appropriate mood for him. Yeah, I
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: just got the first It was just weird. It was
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: a weird I mean, And do I think Greers like relatability?
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: There was off. Yes, I don't think your sales quarter
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and you're finding your wife of the same thing. I
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: think probably Zach is extra sensitive, as we've seen, to
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: this and to this situation being very important to him.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I think he's holding that very close to his chest,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: and I think it is important to him. I think
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: it should be important to him. So I do think
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: she probably upset him a bit, and he probably he
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: probably felt like you don't get it kind of thing.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: It was just probably what he wanted to say, really
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: was you just don't get it? Do you like you
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: don't get how important this is to me? But I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: think she was just trying to be sweet, and I
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: think she was just trying to be relatable. That's why
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I would say that reaction was a little bit harsh.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: But if he's not into her, we'll find out. I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: think the normal Okay, maybe normal isn't the right word,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: But I think the reaction that you and I would
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: probably have would be like, wait, what are you telling
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: you that you pick your last quarter and this is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like, I appreciate you kind of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: coming up with something relatable, but like, you know, something
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, or like, no, that's not hindsight,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: but hindsight, But hindsight is always better. And we, you know,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: we can sit here and be armchair experts and say
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: this is what we would have done. I think if
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it was somebody I wasn't into and I was just
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: kind of annoyed by in general, just for whatever reason,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I probably would have been like, yeah, I might have
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: had the same reaction as Zach. You know what, Ben,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: thank you for correcting me, because now I'm trying to
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: think of it being somebody that I'm just over, yeah,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: like I don't like you anymore, or on the fence
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: about you, and then you said it. I would have
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: also been liked out too. I know myself, I just
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: took myself back to dating whenever I was like, on
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a third date was somebody and I was trying to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: figure out whether or not this was really worth exploring,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: and they did something like that I'd be like grossed
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: out or as they call it today, the ick the ick. Well,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: my guess is I mean I'm saying it. I don't
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: think Greer is around past next week, which is unfortunately
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: we haven't got to see a ton from the woman
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: who got the first impression Rose, except for in this
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: episode we got to see her a ton without me. Yeah,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: not the best look. Though Ashley to close out, Mercedes
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and Kylie did go home, the rest of them are staying.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: The kind of scenes for the future episodes do look
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: very interesting to me. It does go back to our
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: first assumption after seeing the preview, is that something happens
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: that shocks his world and that rocks the women's world.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: We see Zach apologizing, which is a big deal. We've
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: seen it a few times now from the leads. We
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: can go back to Clayton when he was apologizing, but
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: we see Zach apologizing, which I think is a very
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: big deal. He's apologizing for something that wrecks some relationships
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: and right now we don't really know what that is.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: We're getting a hint that he is intimate with somebody
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: in outside of kind of the normal format and that
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: really upsets some people could be that. We saw that
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: with Clayton, but then the rest of the season does
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: look emotional. We're getting into kind of the nitty gritty
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: of this season where it starts to get very interesting,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: where relationships are really blossoming. Those that blossom sometimes don't
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: work out, and that pulls at our heartstrings. It pulls
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: it Sack's heartstrings, it pulls it the women's heart strings.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: So a lot to look forward to coming up. But
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: it leads me to my and you've kind of already
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: answered it, but we just to be clear. Actually, after
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: seeing this episode, moving into the next week's episode, who
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: were your top three four, Zach? Like I said the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: top of the show, we got Katie, Cat and surprisingly
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: now Gabby. I will say that if there's drama with
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: anyone in the future, it looks like it will be Cats.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: According to this snippet from the scenes from the next episode,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: it's gonna break that boy's heart. Okay, my top three four, Zach.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: At this point our Cat still Brooklyn and Charity Cat
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn and Charity. Okay, yep, I can agree with that.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I would probably put Charity at four right now. Yeah,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I think she's still there. I don't think we've got
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: to see a ton from her, But I think she's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: just I don't think we're seeing a ton from her
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: because she's gonna be a big player on this season
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: and she's gonna be around a long time. Yeah, I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: think we've seen a decent amount from her for somebody
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: who hasn't had a one on one yet. Sure, sure,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I would imagine a runner one's coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: all right Bachelor headlines after this break, yeah, right off
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: his break. Really, I want to say, though, Ashley, with
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: our top three, well, there's a lot of women that
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: we feel like have strong relationships. Because we'd even mentioned Aeriel,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: we did not, I mean I didn't mention Gabby, I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: didn't mention Katie, and so if we add ours together,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: most of the women left we feel like have a
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: chance with Zach, which is interesting for this point in
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: the season that's typically not the case. And so yeah,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be some deep formed relationships. I like it.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I like this. But that's why I thought this was
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: a particularly engaging episode because I really didn't know what
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: was going to happen at the Rows ceremony, and I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: really don't know what's going to happen in the future,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of exciting to have so many front
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: runners and not like one horse, one horse in the game.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: All right, Bachelor headlines are coming up right after this break.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Bachelorette alum Eric, who dated and was with Gabby at
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: the end of their season, is dating model Elizabeth Turner
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: after the split from Gabby Ashley, I mentioned to you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: that this is shocking to me because years ago, like
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: years ago before Jessica on this podcasting, Yeah, you asked
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: who is my celebrity crush, and I said Elizabeth Turner. Yeah,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: So this is weird to me, like very odd that
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: this is happening, because I think I said even then,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think a lot of people
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: know where she's like a model, and I never had
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: any contact with her. So then I see Eric's dating
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's a weird full circle moment for me. Okay,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: so Eric seems to be dating her Eric as in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Gabby's Eric. Eric. Sure, he posted something on a heat
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: She posted something on Valentine's Day and he reposted it.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: It was a picture of the two of them kissing
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: and it said Valentine Valentine. They underneath it, so I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: think we can say that they're in a committed relationship.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: A couple months ago, he said to Okay magazine after
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: he and Gabby broke up, that he wants to find
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: his best friend, someone he can vibe with every day,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: a partnership where they can lean and support each other
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: through the highs and lows, someone who's open to adventure,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: but also for the occasional white lotus binge in one
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: sitting in a fiery romance because at the end of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the day, I'm a hopeless romantic. So we don't really
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: know much more about their relationship. But she is a model.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: She is signed with One Management in New York City.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: She hasn't about a million Instagram followers, and it's a
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: girl that has a little bit of a track record
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation. If you google her name, it'll pop
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: up that she also had a something something perhaps with
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron and didn't you, sir, there was someone else
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: rumor as she did a Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh yeah, maybe
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: not Bachelornation, but even bigger than that, Leo. So all right,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: what's our next headline? Ben, that's a big headline. That's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: an interesting one. I did not expect Eric to be
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: popping up with somebody that had dated Leonardo DiCaprio, that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: that was not on the Bingo card this year. The Bachelor,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn speaks out after revealing she was in an abusive relationship.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: If you listen to her episode where she spoke about
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: this with Zach, there's a lot of courage in her statement,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: and now she's speaking out after the show to the public. Yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: So she got on Instagram after last week's episode. She said,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: I'm so overwhelmed with the outpouring of love and support
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: from everyone. It does not go unnoticed and it is
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: even more appreciated than anyone will ever know. Well, uh,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: still just a ton of courage by Brooklyn, and it
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: was a big deal for so many, and so many
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  Speaker 1: reacted in such a way of relatability and support for Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 1: Well switching gears a little bit. There is a there's
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  Speaker 1: a battle going on amongst reality television dating shows. The
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  Speaker 1: headline is this, Nick Lasher says it doesn't get and
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  Speaker 1: I quote more authentic than Love is Blind after shade
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  Speaker 1: by Bachelor host Jesse Plummer. All right, Ben, this sounds
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  Speaker 1: a little bit like the headline is a little bit
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  Speaker 1: juicier than the actual quotes are here. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: think that Jesse really shaded him at all. That's just
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  Speaker 1: like one of those words that tabloids love to use
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  Speaker 1: to make more click bad. Right, Okay, so this is
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  Speaker 1: what Nick said. He said, I don't think it gets
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  Speaker 1: more authentic than Love is Blind. The whole premise of
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  Speaker 1: the show is authenticity. It's getting to know someone for
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  Speaker 1: their true self, their real self, and then introducing the physical,
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  Speaker 1: so certainly a different angle into finding love. I would
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  Speaker 1: that Love Is Blind is probably the most authentic dating
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  Speaker 1: show we've ever seen that ends at the altar, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, I understand how it seems like Nick is
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  Speaker 1: maybe shading the show there a little bit, especially when
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  Speaker 1: he says the show ends at the altar, because can
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  Speaker 1: you think of any other dating show that ends at
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  Speaker 1: the altar besides The Bachelor and Love Is Blind. Jesse's
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  Speaker 1: response is the Bachelor was first. I think a big
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  Speaker 1: part of The Bachelor is authenticity and really trying to
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  Speaker 1: get back to what the core of the show has
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  Speaker 1: always been about and what it's supposed to be about.
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  Speaker 1: So it sounds like there's a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: battle of authenticity in reality TV. But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anything any feelings are hurt here. Next headline is this ABC,
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  Speaker 1: and this blew up my Instagram this week with tons
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  Speaker 1: of messages from you all asking what I thought, not
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  Speaker 1: even nothing about it. But the ABC denies reports they
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  Speaker 1: are considering bringing back Chris Harrett to Harrison to save
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor and replace Jesse Palmer. As in I quote here,
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  Speaker 1: the show is on life support two years after racism
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  Speaker 1: scandal sent Chris packing with a ten million dollars payoff.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I saw these rumors swirling on social media
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  Speaker 1: last week, and I think some of us may have
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  Speaker 1: gotten a little bit excited to hear that there may
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  Speaker 1: have been a chance at Chris coming back. But ABC
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  Speaker 1: squashed the rumor within hours. Don't have much info about it.
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  Speaker 1: All I can say is that there's an insider out
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: there that says that everyone is aware that the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: is on life support, and I guess out of just
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: that statement, a lot of people were like, the best
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  Speaker 1: way to spark the show back to life would be
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  Speaker 1: to have Chris back, and maybe it got out of hand,
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  Speaker 1: but ABC is denying that there are any plans to
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  Speaker 1: bring him back. Final headline of the day. Emily Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: shares stunning maternity photos. In thirteen weeks, we will be
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  Speaker 1: holding our beautiful baby boy. These are the cutest pictures ever.
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  Speaker 1: You have to check out Emily Ferguson Carlson's Instagram. I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe the baby is going to be due in
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  Speaker 1: about thirteen weeks. It's crazy, but it's so beautiful Emily
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  Speaker 1: and her husband. Definitely go and check it out. Emily
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  Speaker 1: says she's not having that pregnancy glow as I insisted,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody knows that I did not have. But she
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  Speaker 1: does look stunning and you can see other Bachelor Nation
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  Speaker 1: comments underneath there, like from Kendall Long who says absolutely
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  Speaker 1: glowing babe, and then Emily's sister says, mom and dad,
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  Speaker 1: I cannot handle. So definitely go check out those pictures.
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  Speaker 1: They're adorable. What a cool time. Marriages are forming, babies
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  Speaker 1: are being born, life is continuing, and yes, the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: is as well. Next week, we'll be breaking down another
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  Speaker 1: episode of this season right here on the Almost Famous podcast.
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  Speaker 1: You can count on It. Ashley and I will be
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: here and I'm intrigued for the rest of this season,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: but until then, I've been been, I've been Ashley. See
• 1:12:05
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