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The Kenny Report | 14 May · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 3: The Albanezer government on the back foot over its own
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  Speaker 3: credibility and a budget that's about as popular as a
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  Speaker 3: broken promise.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah Henderson will join me.
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  Speaker 3: Angus Taylor's alternative budget sets it outline income tax changes
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  Speaker 3: and an immigration crackdown. Later tonight, the leaders of two
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  Speaker 3: global superpowers, Donald Trump and shi JINGPNG meet with fanfare
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  Speaker 3: in Beijing. Alexander Joanna will join me on that and
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  Speaker 3: how to get the NDS under control. Well, for starters,
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  Speaker 3: you should make sure they use proper invoices. I'll speak
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  Speaker 3: to an expert in sport with Robbo Michael Voss Bites
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  Speaker 3: the Dust and Magic round locked in for Brisbane, plus
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  Speaker 3: Tim and Mark on tax lies and videotape.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: Two days on from the budget and the Albanze Labor
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  Speaker 3: government is in a spot of bother. What you're seeing
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  Speaker 3: in real time is a government's authority falling away, like
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  Speaker 3: from a sick cat. That's an observation I made about
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi nearly two years ago, but now it's happening
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  Speaker 3: for so many more people. This budget has become the
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  Speaker 3: trigger for mainstream voters to come to a similar conclusion.
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  Speaker 3: Why Well, because of lies, because of voters trust being abused,
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  Speaker 3: a promise broken and the Prime Minister not even being
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  Speaker 3: man enough to admit it.
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  Speaker 4: Were those statements promises?
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  Speaker 5: What they were?
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  Speaker 4: Statements?
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  Speaker 5: And we have changed our position?
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  Speaker 4: Are you not able to say that they were election promises.
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  Speaker 5: Although we've changed our position, Sarah, you won't say it all.
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  Speaker 5: There are statements that were made and we've changed our position.
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  Speaker 5: We've changed our position, we have changed our position. We
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  Speaker 5: have changed our position. We have changed our position. We
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  Speaker 5: have changed our position. We have changed our position. We've
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  Speaker 5: changed our position, have changed our position. We've changed our
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  Speaker 5: position on this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and voters will be changing their position on him.
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  Speaker 3: You can't overstate how damaging this is. No voter will
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  Speaker 3: trust this government or this Prime minister again. And the
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  Speaker 3: other reason people are seeing through Labor is that their
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  Speaker 3: arguments for their policies just don't make any sense. Have
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  Speaker 3: a look at how even the Instagram crowd, the very
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  Speaker 3: people Labor is pitching to. Well, even though I've worked
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  Speaker 3: it out, Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Tom, guess what I'm by the house?
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  Speaker 6: Awesome, Jackson, Because the government are making it easier for
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  Speaker 6: young people to get into houses. That's awesome, Jackson, that
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  Speaker 6: is awesome. I'm so happy the government is helping young people.
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  Speaker 2: Hooray. Nah, you're wrong. What why they're getting rid of
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  Speaker 2: negative gearing?
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  Speaker 6: Isn't a good thing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that a good thing? They're getting rid of
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  Speaker 2: it for new buyers. Everyone that already owns a home
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  Speaker 2: can keep doing it.
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  Speaker 6: Oh oh wait, I'm going to be a new buyer. Wait, Jackson,
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  Speaker 6: you're going to be a new buyer.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Shut up.
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  Speaker 3: You can no longer negatively gear unless you're already doing it,
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  Speaker 3: then you can do it forever.
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  Speaker 6: So they're making it easier for young people to get
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  Speaker 6: a house by making it more expensive for young people
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  Speaker 6: to own a house. Jackson, this doesn't sound as awesome
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  Speaker 6: as it did before.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty much it now.
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  Speaker 3: Much of this plot played out in Parliament today as well,
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  Speaker 3: where there was a follow up on that point I
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  Speaker 3: made last night, That is, if Labor was happy to
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  Speaker 3: lie about negative gearing, might it also be lying about
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  Speaker 3: death tax? And there was a lot of sensitivity about
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  Speaker 3: that word or actually any of those words, lie, lying
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  Speaker 3: or liar.
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  Speaker 7: My question is to the Prime Minister, Labor lie to
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  Speaker 7: Australian's a bad plan.
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  Speaker 8: Now I'm going to deal with this issue. I'm not
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  Speaker 8: comfortable with that term cannot refer to either political parties
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  Speaker 8: or individuals as being liares.
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  Speaker 9: So just want to be careful with that language.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually true, it's actually truth.
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  Speaker 8: You remember, of Goldstein is going to ask his question
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  Speaker 8: and just not use that word speak of.
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  Speaker 7: My question is to the Prime Minister, Labor misled, deceived,
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  Speaker 7: untruthed those two Australians of our plans to tax them more. Well,
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  Speaker 7: the Prime Minister rule out changing his mind about introducing
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  Speaker 7: a death tax.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lie is a lie.
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  Speaker 3: Whether you call it an untruth or falsehood or deception,
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  Speaker 3: you call it deceit a porky, buncom balder dash, we
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  Speaker 3: all know what it is. Pauline Hanson certainly isn't mincing
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  Speaker 3: her words.
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  Speaker 10: You know, Labor talks about resilience. That's their budget is
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  Speaker 10: about to me, they've delivered a shit sandwich and we've
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  Speaker 10: now got to eat it.
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  Speaker 2: Them's fighting words.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, back to question time and the other issue for Labor,
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  Speaker 3: aside from the broken promises, is this big lie about
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  Speaker 3: how their policies somehow are helping young people get into
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  Speaker 3: the housing market. The fact is that older people who
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  Speaker 3: have negative geared or are still negatively gearing, they get
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  Speaker 3: to keep doing that. People like the Prime Minister with
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  Speaker 3: his multi million dollar beach house, they can still negatively
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  Speaker 3: gear any properties they still have. It's the young people
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  Speaker 3: who have not yet bought those properties.
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  Speaker 2: Who know who longer get the chance.
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  Speaker 3: They're the ones who are hemmed in by the government's
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  Speaker 3: new restrictions and higher taxes. The changes disadvantage the young
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  Speaker 3: rather than help them.
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  Speaker 2: My question is to the Prime minister to get ahead.
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  Speaker 2: The Prime Minister bought a property in his twenties, he
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  Speaker 2: claimed the CGT discount.
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  Speaker 11: He negatively geared his way to a fort point three
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  Speaker 11: million dollar property in Copa Kabana. Now today the Australian
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  Speaker 11: reports twenty out of twenty three of the labor cabinets
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  Speaker 11: owns more than two properties they can continue to negatively gear.
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  Speaker 11: Why are younger Australians being denied these very same opportunities
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  Speaker 11: the Prime Minister and his cabinet colleagues continue to benefit from.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't asked by this play did they get the new.
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  Speaker 12: Kid to ask a question.
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  Speaker 5: We have had discussions as well about people's family and
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  Speaker 5: being raised in this place. I had that discussion, as
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  Speaker 5: I've had with other leaders.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Albo was very sensitive.
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  Speaker 3: He loves the politics of envy, except when it involves
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  Speaker 3: his wealth. The Prime Minister might even be starting to
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  Speaker 3: get a little bit worried about his treasurer. I mean
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  Speaker 3: Chim Charmer's Chim Chamer's budget has brought in a more tax,
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  Speaker 3: of course for his coffers. It's also delivering a policy
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  Speaker 3: he always wanted, and it seems to be taking some
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  Speaker 3: bark off his leader. At the same time, maybe Charmers
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  Speaker 3: is hoping all this might push albow Off into that
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  Speaker 3: beach house retirement before he has to try and make
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  Speaker 3: any more promises at another election.
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  Speaker 2: The focus tonight in.
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  Speaker 3: Canberra will be Angus Taylor's budget in reply speech. If
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  Speaker 3: ever an opposition leader had plenty to work with and
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  Speaker 3: nothing to lose, tonight would be it go hard or
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  Speaker 3: go home. The early signs are encouraging. The opposition leader
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  Speaker 3: is tipped to commit to full indexation of income tax
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  Speaker 3: rates to get rid of bracket creep forever. That would
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  Speaker 3: be a major reform in favor of taxpayers rather than
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  Speaker 3: government coffers. He's also promising to restrict immigration rates, keeping
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  Speaker 3: them in line with housing capacity, and like Labor, the
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  Speaker 3: ABC's immediate and idiotic response to these immigration policies was
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  Speaker 3: to invoke xenophobia and racism.
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  Speaker 13: The coalition reckon they can build a house and then
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  Speaker 13: lead in one migrant. That's the plan, right, The plan
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  Speaker 13: is build one house, letting one migrant. I want to
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  Speaker 13: know from people if it is dog whistling or if
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  Speaker 13: it is the solution to the housing crisis. Is the
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  Speaker 13: coalition blowing the dog whistle, speaking quietly in a racist way,
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  Speaker 13: or is it simply the best solution to the housing crisis?
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  Speaker 3: What hope is there for a sensible debate on immigration
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  Speaker 3: with these people? Taylor will announce a plan to restrict
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  Speaker 3: welfare entitlements for non citizens too. Thousands of non citizens
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  Speaker 3: currently get unemployment benefits and pensions.
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  Speaker 2: They're even on the NDIS.
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  Speaker 3: You can expect screaming and abuse from the coalition's opponents,
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  Speaker 3: but the opposition should welcome that. Taylor and the opposition
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  Speaker 3: need to learn that unless they're being attacked by Labor
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  Speaker 3: and the ABC, well they're not even in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope.
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  Speaker 3: They also announce a slash and burn approach to all
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  Speaker 3: net zero programs as well. You can see that speech
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  Speaker 3: live here on Sky at seven point thirty. Let's go
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  Speaker 3: to Canberra now and catch up with Shadow Communications Minister
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  Speaker 3: Sarah Henderson.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah, you like me a former ABC reporter.
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  Speaker 3: You see the way that they get all hysterical about
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  Speaker 3: any mention of the immigration debate. They talk about dog
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  Speaker 3: whistling and racism. How strong is Angus Taylor going to
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  Speaker 3: be on immigration tonight?
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  Speaker 14: Well, he's going to be very strong because the Coalition
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  Speaker 14: is determined to end mass migration. Labor has grossly mismanaged
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  Speaker 14: migration into the this country and estimated two million migrants
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  Speaker 14: are coming to this country over two years and that's
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  Speaker 14: having enormous impact Chris, including on access to affordable housing.
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  Speaker 14: So you are going to hear a very strong plan
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  Speaker 14: from Angus tonight, which is all about protecting our way
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  Speaker 14: of life and restoring living standards.
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  Speaker 2: What numbers we'll be talking about.
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  Speaker 3: The trouble here is people get very dodgy about numbers,
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  Speaker 3: but we're getting net immigration intake at the moment of
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  Speaker 3: a close to three hundred thousand people.
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  Speaker 2: Does that need to be roughly halved.
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  Speaker 14: Look, I'm not going to comment on the exact number
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  Speaker 14: other than we know it's got to come dramatically down.
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  Speaker 14: The exact figure is three hundred and eleven thousand net
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  Speaker 14: overseas migration. One point four million migrants have come to
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  Speaker 14: this country since Labor was elected.
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  Speaker 12: Migration is out of control, Chris.
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  Speaker 14: The government has no interest in managing migration and it's
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  Speaker 14: causing enormous harm to our country. Yes, we welcome migrants,
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  Speaker 14: there is no two ways about that. The comments of
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  Speaker 14: the ABC this morning were pretty disgraceful. But we have responsibility,
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  Speaker 14: like every nation, to manage our migration program in the
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  Speaker 14: national interest and that's what we are going to do well.
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  Speaker 3: The other point that the ABC and others will get
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  Speaker 3: very excited about, hysterical perhaps, is this inclination, this new plan,
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  Speaker 3: new policy from Angus Taylor to stop non citizens getting
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  Speaker 3: automatic access to pensions, to the ndis, to unemployment benefits
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  Speaker 3: and the like. Here's the Opposition leader earlier today.
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  Speaker 15: And the simple principle is this, if you commit to
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  Speaker 15: this country, we'll commit to you. And that's how it
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  Speaker 15: should be. That's the Australia I grew up in and
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  Speaker 15: it's the Australia.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see again.
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  Speaker 15: If you are not an Australian citizen, then you don't
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  Speaker 15: get the privileges of an Australian citizen. And I'd encourage
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  Speaker 15: people who are committed to this country to become.
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  Speaker 3: A citizen, Sarah, that sounds fair, Yeah, But aren't there
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people in this country who are permanent
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  Speaker 3: residents and not citizens and paying tax and working here
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  Speaker 3: and ought to be entitled to those entitlements.
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  Speaker 14: Well, Chris, So we are determined to put Australians first,
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  Speaker 14: and there are some exceptions to that policy, as ANGUS
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  Speaker 14: has made clear, but there are a whole range of
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  Speaker 14: welfare programs that will only go to Australian citizens and
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  Speaker 14: that is right and proper. And yes, we encourage those
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  Speaker 14: permanent citizens here to actually become Australian citizens, but we
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  Speaker 14: won't be conferring the rights of citizenship on non citizens.
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  Speaker 14: It's a really important principle and we are very proud
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  Speaker 14: of our stand.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have any idea in dollar terms of how
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  Speaker 3: much this could save taxpayers?
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  Speaker 14: Well, no, but ANGUS did say this morning that this
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  Speaker 14: would involve many billions of dollars over the forward estimates.
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  Speaker 14: So this is a very significant save because as we know.
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  Speaker 12: Chris, every single taxpayer's dollar is precious.
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  Speaker 14: That is why we make no apology for putting Australians first. Yes,
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  Speaker 14: we welcome migrance to this country, but we are putting
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  Speaker 14: Australians first.
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  Speaker 12: We're very proud of that, consistent with our.
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  Speaker 14: Values based migration policy, and you will hear more about
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  Speaker 14: that tonight. So please everyone who's watching, stay tuned and
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  Speaker 14: watch at seven thirty tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Now I've got to ask her about the minister that
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  Speaker 3: is your counterpart in the parlor parliamentary rankings, if you like,
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  Speaker 3: That is the Sports Minister and Communications Minister Anika Wells.
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  Speaker 3: She's been a bit lucky lately because she's had to
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  Speaker 3: repay ten thousand dollars or more because she's taken travel
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  Speaker 3: entitlements for her and her family that she wasn't entitled to.
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  Speaker 3: The reason she's lucky is everybody's been focused on the
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  Speaker 3: budget and other issues and she seems to be skating along.
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  Speaker 3: Are you still pursuing her for yet more travel that
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  Speaker 3: should be repaid.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, I've called on the Prime Minister to stand down
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  Speaker 14: Anika Wells because it does not cut the mustard. After
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  Speaker 14: she was found guilty of breaching her travel expenses on
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  Speaker 14: four separate occasions, she's now got a very big cloud
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  Speaker 14: over this so called trip to Adelaide to attend a
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  Speaker 14: boozy birthday party. It does not cut the mustard, does
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  Speaker 14: not pass the pub test that she went to that
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  Speaker 14: party and was having an official ministerial meeting with the
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  Speaker 14: South Australian Minister, Chris Picton.
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  Speaker 12: So frankly, that is not good enough. It is clear
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  Speaker 12: she has not.
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  Speaker 14: Told the independent expenses authority the full truth. The minister,
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  Speaker 14: the South Australian Minister, won't back her in, won't corroborate
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  Speaker 14: her story, and that is why the Prime Minister must
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  Speaker 14: intervene and stand her down. This appears to be an
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  Speaker 14: egregious breach of the ministerial code of conduct.
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  Speaker 2: Chris, Look, it seems obvious to me.
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  Speaker 3: And as you know, I've worked at senior levels in
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  Speaker 3: in the Federal Parliament, in opposition and government, and I
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  Speaker 3: just guarantee you if she were a coalition minister with
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  Speaker 3: a labor opposition, there is no way known she'd still
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  Speaker 3: be in a job.
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  Speaker 2: She would have been forced out by the.
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  Speaker 3: Canbra Press gallery, and just by the accountability standards of
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  Speaker 3: the Coalition. I'm afraid I'm astounded that Labour think they
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  Speaker 3: can keep her.
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  Speaker 2: In their ranks and not lose any skin themselves.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I'm really proud of how the Coalition has prosecuted
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  Speaker 14: this issue because we uncovered in cened estimates last year
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  Speaker 14: the rush the ninety five thousand dollars she spent to
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  Speaker 14: fly to New York. She stayed for a couple of days,
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  Speaker 14: she gave a very brief speech, took her couple of photos,
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  Speaker 14: and then flew back to Australia to.
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  Speaker 12: Sprook her failed social media ban.
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  Speaker 14: So this is a minister who, in many respects is
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  Speaker 14: just not up to the job.
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  Speaker 12: She's a minister on training.
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  Speaker 14: Wheels and of course that triggered the IPIA audit and
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  Speaker 14: we've now seen those four breach.
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  Speaker 12: But this is not she's gone beyond the pale.
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  Speaker 14: To argue that she's gone to Adelaide for official meetings
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  Speaker 14: and that was the dominant purpose of her travel just
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  Speaker 14: does not add up. There's also a fairly dodgy meeting
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  Speaker 14: in the afternoon of the Saturday before the birthday party,
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  Speaker 14: which she supposedly had with the office of the Special
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  Speaker 14: Minister of State Don Farrell.
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  Speaker 12: It doesn't look like he was even there.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't.
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  Speaker 12: That's got a really bad smell about it.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, well, I'll tell you what this idea.
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  Speaker 12: Meeting stop and I can tell you we are up
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  Speaker 12: for the fight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this idea, Chris.
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  Speaker 14: We are fighting this bad budget, we are fighting these ruts,
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  Speaker 14: we are fighting this shocking labor government.
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  Speaker 3: The idea that she's flown to Adelaide that taxpayer's expense
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  Speaker 3: for the official meeting, which was at the party of
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  Speaker 3: her friend, the South Australian Minister.
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  Speaker 2: At a party in a night.
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  Speaker 3: This is just so absurd, so insulting to taxpayers. And
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  Speaker 3: of course you don't get to ask her questions because
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  Speaker 3: you're in the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: She's in the House.
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  Speaker 3: So your colleague Mary Aldred, the Liberal MP from Victoria,
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  Speaker 3: asked an absolutely ripping question today that got to the
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  Speaker 3: heart of this ridiculous meeting.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look.
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  Speaker 16: My question is to the Minister for Communications in which
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  Speaker 16: room at the live music venue the Jade did the
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  Speaker 16: Minister hold her quote sideline meeting while at the fortieth
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  Speaker 16: birthday party of her close personal friend the bar the
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  Speaker 16: Garden Kiosk, or the room with the pinball machine.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be the room with the pinball machine,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 14: I reckon it was the bar, both halving a glass
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  Speaker 14: of champagne. They were blowing out the candles while the
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  Speaker 14: minister was blowing up her credibility.
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  Speaker 12: I mean the fact that.
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  Speaker 14: This is a friend of hers and the South Australian
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  Speaker 14: Minister is the husband of the friend who had the
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  Speaker 14: birthday party.
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  Speaker 12: It is a joke, sure is.
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  Speaker 14: The Prime Minister is absolutely implicit in this. What I
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  Speaker 14: would say is a blatant wrought unless he stands her
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  Speaker 14: down and properly investigates what went on.
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  Speaker 3: Spot on, Sarah, thanks for joining us. Senator Sarah Henderson
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  Speaker 3: there live from Canberra. They got to get rid of
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  Speaker 3: Anika Wells. They've got to sack her. This is an
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  Speaker 3: absolute joke. It's a joke on you and me. It's
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  Speaker 3: a joke on accountability. It's a joke on the budget
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  Speaker 3: deficit and all the waste of taxpayers money. She flew
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  Speaker 3: there to have this meeting, either in the bar or
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  Speaker 3: the room with the binball machine. They're taking a lend
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  Speaker 3: of us.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: There was plenty of fanfare in Beijing today for Donald
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Trump's first visit there in nine years. He was holding
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  Speaker 3: closed door talks with China's Shi Jingping ahead of the meeting.
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  Speaker 3: She warned of turbulent times in the world.
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  Speaker 17: Currently, transformation not seen in a century is excel rating
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  Speaker 17: across the globe, and the international situation is fluid and turbulent.
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  Speaker 17: The world has come to a new crossroads. Our two
• 19:08
  Speaker 17: countries have more common interests than differences. Success in one
• 19:15
  Speaker 17: is an opportunity for the other, and a stable bilateral
• 19:20
  Speaker 17: relationship is good for the world.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: As for Donald Trump, he was full of prize for
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: China's president.
• 19:28
  Speaker 18: Such respect for China, the job you've done. You're a
• 19:31
  Speaker 18: great leader. I say it to everybody, You're a great leader.
• 19:34
  Speaker 18: Sometimes people don't like me saying it, but I say
• 19:36
  Speaker 18: it anyway because it's true. I only say the truth.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Let's got a taikyo then, and catch up with Australia's
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: longest serving foreign minister, Alexander Danna.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us again, Alexander.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I found those comments from Shi Jinping very interesting, pointing
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: out that they have America and China have more shared
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: interests than they do differences. I think it's probably a
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: statement of the obvious. But it's a very conciliatory tone
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: to start the meeting, isn't it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 19: Yes, I think the meeting, insofar as we know the
• 20:09
  Speaker 19: details of what happened at the meeting, the meeting went
• 20:12
  Speaker 19: extremely well. I mean, obviously, above all in the world,
• 20:17
  Speaker 19: the relationship between the United States and China is the
• 20:22
  Speaker 19: most important bilateral relationship. As President Trump puts it, we're
• 20:29
  Speaker 19: both superpowers. They do need to work together as best possible,
• 20:36
  Speaker 19: and it's encouraging. People should be very positive about the
• 20:42
  Speaker 19: constructive remarks but that both President Trump and President Chi
• 20:47
  Speaker 19: ching Ping made about each other and each other's countries.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I read some reporting this afternoon that suggested Hu Jinping
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: was banging the table and speaking robustly about Taiwan. But
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: when I read the detail of that, he seemed to
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: be just restating the position, and that is that any
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: support of independence so called for Taiwan would be a
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: red line.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I did the same thing.
• 21:15
  Speaker 19: I read through exactly what he said, and I came
• 21:19
  Speaker 19: to the same conclusion. It was pretty much standard rhetoric
• 21:23
  Speaker 19: from China on Taiwan. The restic rhetoric we had even
• 21:29
  Speaker 19: during the time I was the foreign minister, so I
• 21:32
  Speaker 19: don't see anything special about that. So what's going to
• 21:37
  Speaker 19: be important to us isn't just that China and the
• 21:42
  Speaker 19: United States are doing some sort of trade deals, you know,
• 21:46
  Speaker 19: buying sawyer beans and bowing seven three sevens or whatever
• 21:50
  Speaker 19: it is, but that they can collaborate in terms of
• 21:55
  Speaker 19: the conflicts in other parts of the world. And if
• 21:58
  Speaker 19: China can use a bit of it's all authority and
• 22:01
  Speaker 19: influence over Iran and Russia and try to get those
• 22:06
  Speaker 19: two regimes to see common sense and end their conflicts
• 22:11
  Speaker 19: that they've been so deeply involved in, then China will
• 22:16
  Speaker 19: play in a useful role. And obviously President Trump will
• 22:21
  Speaker 19: be trying to get them to play such a role.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously there'll be a big focus on the Strait
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: of Humus, and China gets a lot of oil usually
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: through those straits, but it has other sources, also has.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of storage.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: To what degree at the moment is that Iran conflict
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: creating economic difficulties for China.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Well, there are two things to say about it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 19: One is that it has potential for becoming a huge
• 22:52
  Speaker 19: problem for China. But as you quite rightly say, they
• 22:56
  Speaker 19: have six to nine months of oil reserves, so they
• 22:59
  Speaker 19: have very substantial reserves. But ninety percent of Iran's oil
• 23:04
  Speaker 19: goes to China, and by the way, about seventy seventy
• 23:10
  Speaker 19: five percent of Venezuela's oil has been going to China,
• 23:14
  Speaker 19: and the United States now has that under its control.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: So China will be worried about that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 19: But the second thing that people haven't focused on in
• 23:24
  Speaker 19: relation to the Strait of Homus is that the United
• 23:28
  Speaker 19: States has successfully blockaded Iranian ports, so the Iranians are
• 23:34
  Speaker 19: not anyway able to export any of the oil and
• 23:39
  Speaker 19: to make money from exporting oil, which is their main
• 23:42
  Speaker 19: source of income.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: But that will.
• 23:45
  Speaker 19: Remind China that the United States can block narrow waterways
• 23:51
  Speaker 19: which are lifelines.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: So in Southeast Asia there are such.
• 24:00
  Speaker 19: Narrow waterways like the Straits of Malacca, and China will
• 24:05
  Speaker 19: be very much focused on that because so much of
• 24:08
  Speaker 19: China's essential imports as well as their exports, go through
• 24:12
  Speaker 19: the Straits of Malacca, So they will think very carefully
• 24:17
  Speaker 19: about the power of the United States to blockade narrow
• 24:21
  Speaker 19: straits and to in effect blockade ports.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: That just to send a strong message to China, I just.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Want to go back to the importance to China of
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: oil from Venezuela and from Iran, Because to me, this
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: is a very interesting strategic question. I'd love to get
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: your insights on it, because we have a lot of
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: commentators who treat Donald Trump like the village idiot wouldn't
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: know what he's doing. Others pretend that he's some sort
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: of genius playing three D chess that no one else understands. Now, obviously,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: in Venezuela and Iran there were evil regimes of different
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: kinds that will sort of have been worth challenging in
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: their own rights.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: But to what.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Extent has Donald Trump's the US's actions in Venezuela and
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Iran really given the world's greater superpower additional crucial leverage.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Over China and its economic future.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I think huge leverage. And I think this is.
• 25:19
  Speaker 19: Being transformational in terms of the capacity of the sometimes
• 25:25
  Speaker 19: called access of adversaries China, Iran, North Korea, Russia, of
• 25:33
  Speaker 19: course Venezuela, of these countries to try to subvert the
• 25:37
  Speaker 19: influence of Western countries in the world and in any
• 25:41
  Speaker 19: international system. I mean, basically, the West hasn't stood up
• 25:45
  Speaker 19: to them, has been too frightened to stand up to them.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Well, as you know, Donald Trump fears no one.
• 25:53
  Speaker 19: And he has stood up to them in different ways,
• 25:58
  Speaker 19: and I think they're me term consequences of what he
• 26:02
  Speaker 19: has done will be very positive. The short term, it's
• 26:07
  Speaker 19: obviously disruptive, and it gives his opponents, which are his
• 26:11
  Speaker 19: opponents are very numerous. It gives them an opportunity to
• 26:16
  Speaker 19: attack him. But in the end, until three years time,
• 26:21
  Speaker 19: we'll be able to assess whether this strategy, this bold strategy,
• 26:26
  Speaker 19: has worked, and my judgment is it will.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: All right, let's go to President Trump and just have
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a listen to a little bit more of what he
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: had to say in budging.
• 26:35
  Speaker 18: We've had a fantastic relationship. We've gotten along. When there
• 26:38
  Speaker 18: were difficulties, we worked it out. I would call you
• 26:41
  Speaker 18: and you would call me. And whenever we had a problem,
• 26:45
  Speaker 18: people don't know, whenever we had a problem, we worked
• 26:47
  Speaker 18: out out very quickly. We're going to have a fantastic
• 26:52
  Speaker 18: future together.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of optimism there. Let's hope it goes well.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: But just a.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Fascinating, fascinating time to have Donald Trump in Beijing, with
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: so much going on in the world. I do want
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: to Alexander before we let you go, get you to
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: jump across to the UK and tell us how long
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Kirstam has got because there is talk of a proper
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: serious leadership challenge emerging within ours.
• 27:18
  Speaker 19: Yes, I assume there will be a leadership challenge. But
• 27:22
  Speaker 19: the political system in the UK has become seriously unstable,
• 27:27
  Speaker 19: as you can see from the results of the local
• 27:29
  Speaker 19: government elections last week where Labor, who won the general
• 27:35
  Speaker 19: election two years ago with a huge majority, was reduced
• 27:40
  Speaker 19: to political rubble. The Conservative Party is barely recovering. Reform
• 27:46
  Speaker 19: is still doing really well, the Greens are starting to
• 27:50
  Speaker 19: do well, but within the Labor Party there is a
• 27:53
  Speaker 19: real sense of panic. And the trouble is the policies.
• 27:58
  Speaker 19: I mean, the public are not wrong. The policies that
• 28:02
  Speaker 19: they've been pursuing inevitably haven't worked. Huge investments in in
• 28:09
  Speaker 19: energy transition, which is checking up electricity prices of flatlining economy,
• 28:18
  Speaker 19: increased business costs, reduction in business investment. It's hardly a
• 28:24
  Speaker 19: formula for a successful economy.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Sure, thanks so much to joining us from Tokyo, Alexander.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Safe travels Alexander Downer, there, our former foreign minister. This
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: great country. We're going to get to break. After the break,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: we'll talk about the NDIS how to get its runaway
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: budgets under control. For starters, perhaps they should only pay
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: out proper invoices. Let's return to the problematic runaway growth
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: of the National Disability Insurance scheme. As part of the budget,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Labor announced they'll spend nearly three hundred and fifty million
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: dollars to implement a new digital payment system to try
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: to cut down on fraud.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: He's the Health Minister yesterday.
• 29:06
  Speaker 20: Can I say how determined we are to get this
• 29:09
  Speaker 20: scheme back on track. It's growing too fast, it's got
• 29:12
  Speaker 20: too big, there's frankly too much money going to shanks
• 29:15
  Speaker 20: and fraudsters. A series of those changes are about essentially
• 29:20
  Speaker 20: urgent financial controls, and I will be introducing legislation this
• 29:24
  Speaker 20: week to put those controls in place and to get
• 29:28
  Speaker 20: that cost growth under control.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Now, this is related to the sort of problems we
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: saw reported in the Financial Review last month. Indiis providers
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: us submitting barely legible handwritten invoices for payments of tens
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars under a system that experts say
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: needs to be digitized to stamp out.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Fraud and routing. Let me bring in Mark Woodland.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: He's the CEO of KIS Meta Company which connects INDIIS
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: participants and providers and processes invoices. Good to talk to you, Mark,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: tell me about this because I've read some of the
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: anecdotal evidence. I suppose, but the NDAs, of course is
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: spending fifty billion dollars a year.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Of taxpayers money.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: But apparently it's processing and paying out on invoices that
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: sometimes you can barely read and just scrowbled out on
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: a bit of paper.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Does your company see a lot of these?
• 30:19
  Speaker 21: Yeah, it really is wild, wild West stuff. You'll see
• 30:23
  Speaker 21: them on napkins or serviettes. You'll see some ones where
• 30:28
  Speaker 21: they have pictures of themselves on the health providers bodybuilding
• 30:36
  Speaker 21: photos and they're so hard to read that there's black
• 30:39
  Speaker 21: writing on black ink and it's illegible. And these are
• 30:43
  Speaker 21: just a few of them, and they come through daily
• 30:45
  Speaker 21: and at.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: The bottom there can be a substantial figure and the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: NDAs pays out.
• 30:49
  Speaker 21: On that a large amount that you know, up to
• 30:52
  Speaker 21: ten thousand dollars sometimes.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: More on a napkin or a scrap of paper.
• 30:56
  Speaker 21: On a handwritten note that you have to decipher and
• 31:00
  Speaker 21: then send back. If the wrong codes are it's absolutely
• 31:04
  Speaker 21: why how can.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: There be any testing?
• 31:06
  Speaker 18: Then?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: If invoices are in such a shoddy system, perhaps they're
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: outlining hours of work or days of work or services provided,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: how can you check whether those services were provided or
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: that that work was done if you've got such shoddy invoicing.
• 31:21
  Speaker 21: I mean, that's the inefficiency that comes from the system.
• 31:25
  Speaker 21: So what you'll do is you'll get on the phone
• 31:27
  Speaker 21: and you'll call someone to say, did you attend this appointment?
• 31:30
  Speaker 21: You hope you can get in touch with the allied
• 31:31
  Speaker 21: health provider. Then you'll contact the participant. I hope you
• 31:35
  Speaker 21: can get in touch, and that can take weeks and weeks,
• 31:37
  Speaker 21: and meanwhile, the allied health providers waiting to pay wages
• 31:41
  Speaker 21: and they're going out of business because they're waiting for
• 31:43
  Speaker 21: these invoices to go through this checking process.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Have you seen anything like this in any other industry?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, just say, how messy is it?
• 31:51
  Speaker 21: I have not seen it. I thought education was bad.
• 31:53
  Speaker 21: That was a previous sector I was in, but nothing
• 31:55
  Speaker 21: like this.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Well, how can it be fixed? Yeah?
• 31:58
  Speaker 21: I mean, and that's the best thing. There's always solution
• 32:00
  Speaker 21: to the problems, and digital invoicing is a good way
• 32:05
  Speaker 21: to do it. And we're not just talking about automating
• 32:07
  Speaker 21: a form that's just automating a manual process. You need
• 32:11
  Speaker 21: to implement some strong digital practices into that invoice, like
• 32:15
  Speaker 21: ky C checks, address verification, these basic things that you
• 32:21
  Speaker 21: can't make errors on. So when someone does get the invoice,
• 32:25
  Speaker 21: you're not deciphering incorrect address details, incorrect codes, incorrect amounts
• 32:29
  Speaker 21: being paid with people.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Everybody wants proper services delivered to people with disabilities.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: That taxpayers expense. We all understand that, but.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: From your dealing with these invoices that the potential for routing,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: for overcharging, or for charging that services aren't even for
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: services that aren't even being delivered, must be massive. How
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: could you quantify the percentage of routing going on?
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think there's enough.
• 32:57
  Speaker 21: Resource in terms of being able to check the invoices correctly.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Well, whose responsibility is it to check those invoices to
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: check whether what's being claimed is actually worthwhile?
• 33:07
  Speaker 21: Yeah, well, this is the thing, Like it's the responsibility
• 33:10
  Speaker 21: of what they call a plan manager to check those invoices,
• 33:13
  Speaker 21: make sure they're accurate. But then you've got a lot
• 33:16
  Speaker 21: of times where those invoices get checked and it's human error.
• 33:19
  Speaker 21: Some they assume the name's correct and it's wrong, that
• 33:22
  Speaker 21: the amount is correct, there's a wrong decimal place and
• 33:25
  Speaker 21: these things get paid and then spot checks occur by
• 33:29
  Speaker 21: different government agencies, but not enough.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Now, your company's obviously involved in this, and so you
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: know you're talking your own game to a degree, but
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: you're involved in this digital processing and digital invoicing, and
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: you're suggesting that if the whole system was implemented right
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: across the theis that I would be more efficient, but
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: more accountable than trustworthy.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.
• 33:51
  Speaker 21: I mean, that's one of the best things about digitizing
• 33:54
  Speaker 21: a system is it becomes transparent and people can now
• 33:57
  Speaker 21: see where the money is going, and you can track
• 33:59
  Speaker 21: it and you can immediately respond instead of waiting for
• 34:03
  Speaker 21: that lag that happens with the manual process that takes
• 34:06
  Speaker 21: six weeks.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: It just makes so much sense that the idea of
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: taxpayers money being thrown away on the back of a
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: napkin is just shocking. Thanks for joining us, mar Thanks
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Mark Woodland there from Kismech. We're going to get to
• 34:16
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• 34:18
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  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Mark. I've got to start
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  Speaker 2: off with footy.
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  Speaker 3: Voss finally quit at Carlton that he was digging in
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: longer and harder than Keir Starmer in the number ten
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Downing Street at the moment, but in the end he
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: just had to go right.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: The performances just weren't there.
• 37:54
  Speaker 26: Yeah, he resigned base acting. There's two ways of looking
• 37:56
  Speaker 26: at this, and it's a pretty shitty world in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 26: AFL world when coaches get sacked. Bossy delivered professionally, emotionally
• 38:04
  Speaker 26: over many four or five years, and then Carlton. I
• 38:08
  Speaker 26: think they traded him appallingly at the end. They wanted
• 38:11
  Speaker 26: to get rid of him. They should have got rid
• 38:12
  Speaker 26: of him at the end of last year. They allowed
• 38:14
  Speaker 26: him to coach into this season. Not a lot of
• 38:17
  Speaker 26: confidence there. They approached a couple of people last year.
• 38:21
  Speaker 26: I'd said it was an inglorious end from Carlton, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 26: Bossy held his head high on the footy sense at
• 38:27
  Speaker 26: one eighth. He's probably going to have to go anyway.
• 38:31
  Speaker 26: The Blues have got a long, long way to play
• 38:33
  Speaker 26: at this season to be interesting to see how they
• 38:35
  Speaker 26: attack it with personnel.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, strangely enough, they're lost to the reigning premiers. Last
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: weekend was probably one of their better performances of the season.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: But he's a little bit of what Michael Voss had
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: to say after quitting or being fired.
• 38:50
  Speaker 27: It was on shaky ground and the inevitable was starting
• 38:53
  Speaker 27: to become clearer. But the fighter in you and the
• 38:57
  Speaker 27: competitor in you wants to take that as far as
• 39:01
  Speaker 27: you possibly can. There's no there's no Amnossi here, There's
• 39:04
  Speaker 27: no anger I'm at peace with the decision.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, not even halfway through the season,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: we've lost a coach in the NRL and the AFL.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: But tell you what, when.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: It comes to longevity's Scott Pendlebury from Collingwood. He's going
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: to he's going to break the games record for the
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: AFL next week. He's not playing tomorrow night in Sydney.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: He doesn't want to, doesn't want to leave the MCG.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: But the following week he's going to break the record.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And this is.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Turning into a marketing extravaganza. Robbie's going to wear a
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: golden Gonses, I think changing every time he goes to
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: the bench. He's going to be flogging them off for
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: god knows what they reckon. He's going to make a
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: few hundred grand out of all of this.
• 39:43
  Speaker 26: Yeah, I'd call it a marketing fiasco myself. In your
• 39:46
  Speaker 26: graduation dependent Reford or in thirty three games when he
• 39:48
  Speaker 26: plays enormous effort. Anyone who follows football, who plays football,
• 39:53
  Speaker 26: can understand the dedication, the perseverance, the mindset to play
• 39:57
  Speaker 26: that many games of football. But off field, this is
• 40:00
  Speaker 26: where it's getting really interesting. Off field, Penalbry's going to
• 40:04
  Speaker 26: get all proceeds from all the marketing.
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: Now, there's two pillars that hold up the AFL's sport,
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: which is the sellerycap and the national Draft, and the
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: AFL allowing Scott penalty to get what two three four
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: hundred thousand dollars.
• 40:21
  Speaker 26: Surely a percentage of that has to go into the
• 40:24
  Speaker 26: Cellar recap because just because he's breaking the game's record.
• 40:27
  Speaker 28: And good onrning, he's a great player, a fantastic player.
• 40:31
  Speaker 28: The AFL can't change the bloody rules just.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Because he's a.
• 40:36
  Speaker 28: Great player and it's a significant record. A lot of people,
• 40:39
  Speaker 28: a lot of clubs I read, I haven't spoken to many,
• 40:42
  Speaker 28: but a lot of clubs are very upset about this.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Well, they suspect that he was extended his season for
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: a year on the cheap, knowing that he get all
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: this extra money around this, and of course Colling would
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: deny that, but that's a suspicion. I suppose, Hey, let's
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: go to Magic Round, which of course was the precursor
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: to the aflopping it with the Gather Round. But the
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Magic Round this weekend in Brisbane, and it's been locked
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: in there for another extended period.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Here's the Queensland Premier David Christal.
• 41:10
  Speaker 29: Fully Magic Ground belongs in Queensland. It deserves to be
• 41:14
  Speaker 29: in Queensland. We're going to take it to the next level.
• 41:17
  Speaker 29: And yeah we had we had a few people trying
• 41:19
  Speaker 29: to poach it, but in the end the Enteroll had
• 41:22
  Speaker 29: been great to deal with. To be frank, it deserves
• 41:24
  Speaker 29: to be here. This is the only place that could
• 41:27
  Speaker 29: pull it off, and it's going to be a world
• 41:28
  Speaker 29: class event for a long period of time.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I think it just makes sense, like the gather Round
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: should stay in Adelaide, the Magic Ground should always be
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: in Brisbane, shouldn't it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 26: Yeah, you took my words.
• 41:38
  Speaker 28: Then congratulations for the AFL for extending Adelaide and congratulations
• 41:44
  Speaker 28: NFL for extending Brisbane.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: There's a risk at running these things and putting your
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: hand out for the first time. Yeah, we'll do it,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and they're running enormous risk.
• 41:53
  Speaker 28: And when they succeed, all these other bloody people and
• 41:57
  Speaker 28: clubs comings out.
• 41:58
  Speaker 19: We'll do it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: We'll do it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: We'll do it on this date.
• 42:00
  Speaker 26: No, no, so.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: You later we do it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: Well, it's got to continue to evolve, that's all.
• 42:06
  Speaker 26: People are continue to evolve and you can keep.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: It spot on. Can on you Robo?
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Catch you next week, Robbo there on all the footing
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: and sport news.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: On the other side, Tim and Mark will joined me,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: but a tax lies and videotape. Let's call National Cabinet
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: together with Tim Blair and Mark Niblson. Gentlemen, what a week?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I was musing earlier in the program. But Jim Chalmers
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: might be back sitting back smiling, thinking that all this
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: mess might might usher Elbow off to his beach house early.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Because can you imagine Tim, this bloke getting up at
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: the next election making promises and pledges. He'll be laughed
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: out of the room.
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: Look, they're not promises or pledges, of course, they're positional changes.
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: It's closer to what right I used to look at
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: on the on AFL fields. It's just moving a couple
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: of cent half forwards around. It's an incredible the amount
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: of duplicity that's going on. This is a guy, by
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: the way Elbow. He was famously became known during his
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: first run at the job, which he won the in
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: the first election, as each way Elbow. And he's doing
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: everything again to cement that view. It's a peculiar behavior.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Spot on, as I showed earlier. Have a look at this.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: It starts with the ABC where even the A b
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: C was questioning him.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Have a look.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Were those statements promises?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: What were?
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: They were statements? And we have changed our position.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: But are you not able to say that they were
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: election promises.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Although we've changed our position, Sarah, you won't say it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Although we are statements that were made and we've changed our position.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: We've changed our position, we have changed our position. We
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: have changed our position. We have changed our position, we
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: have changed our position, weange our position, We've changed our position,
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: We've changed our position, we've changed our position.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: On this Mark, He'll get up and make an election
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: speech next time round, saying I'd like to make a
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: statement about what we're going to do with the NDI.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Is, but we may change our position.
• 44:18
  Speaker 30: Yeah, I was going to say something really poignant, potentially
• 44:20
  Speaker 30: something very funny, but I've changed my position from that,
• 44:23
  Speaker 30: and I'm not going to tell you why.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to say that's what I'm going to do.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: It's the hubris.
• 44:31
  Speaker 30: Honestly, it's the hubris that really gets me because they Honestly,
• 44:34
  Speaker 30: you can tell by the smugs, the smug smiles they
• 44:37
  Speaker 30: think they're going to get away with it. You could
• 44:39
  Speaker 30: hear him, he swallowed on that ABC interview, was like,
• 44:41
  Speaker 30: what opposition. I'm not used to this. He was taken aback.
• 44:47
  Speaker 30: It's the hubris. It's really disturbing me. We cannot we
• 44:50
  Speaker 30: cannot let them get away with it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: The smugness and the arrogance exactly.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: This is why the backlash will be so strong, because
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: the alternative is for voters to say, yeah, we are idiots,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: and you can walk all over us any time you
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: like Pauline Hansen called it out today.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Have a look.
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, Labor talks about resilience. That's their budget
• 45:11
  Speaker 10: is about to me, they've delivered a shit sandwich and
• 45:14
  Speaker 10: we've now got to eat it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: It's tim but.
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: At least thank god she's away from the food industry.
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: That's all I'm saying. She's found a higher calling. But
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: one of the great things that Hanson has going for
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: is that her positions haven't changed. You know, Labour's literally
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: talking about changing position all the time. The Liberals and
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: the Coalition have changed their position on net zero one
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: nation have held the same view now for three decades.
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: It's something that right now is resonating with the public.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's spot on.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: They're authentic and they're consistent, and voters have come to
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: them and the other parties have walked away.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: That's what's happened. They haven't really changed anything at all.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Actually, the other thing you talking about tonight, and obviously
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Angus Taylor with his budget and reply and the opportunity
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: here now for people to capitalize on this bad government
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: and and sort of coordinate all that voter resentment. Well,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: the point is that so many things they're doing are
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: so bad. And mark your latest cartoon from last week,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: your latest please explained cartoon at a crisis cabinet meeting,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: and it gave us an insight into you know, it
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: could have been any one of a number of crises.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Have a look, right, stop mucking around.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: This is an emergency.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: We've got a crisis on a head. Oh no, it's inflation,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: isn't it. The truion dollar dead.
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: Her addiction to spending the vote of bureocracy now completing competence.
• 46:40
  Speaker 12: Now, it's because we all love taking the taxpayer for
• 46:43
  Speaker 12: a ride.
• 46:44
  Speaker 30: Isn't that right?
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Aarnaka. She's not here. She's got skiing.
• 46:47
  Speaker 30: But no, the destruction of the Australian economy is the
• 46:49
  Speaker 30: least of our concerns.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: And there were more, and there were more an gone skiing,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: but Mark, there's plenty more there.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: No one's doing a good job.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Even Chris of course gets to mention later on the
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: energy shambles.
• 47:05
  Speaker 30: Yeah, mate, Yeah, honestly, that scene I remember writing it.
• 47:07
  Speaker 30: It was it was ten pages long. It would have
• 47:10
  Speaker 30: been it would have been a thirty minute episode if
• 47:12
  Speaker 30: we kept going with the amount of crisis that they
• 47:14
  Speaker 30: have that they do not care about. That's the point,
• 47:17
  Speaker 30: or the point of the thing was that all these
• 47:19
  Speaker 30: things are going on that are affecting us. But it's
• 47:22
  Speaker 30: Albo's you know, likability, that's the real problem.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: That's all he really cares about. I think it's kind
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: of true. That's the thing.
• 47:29
  Speaker 30: So like I think Angus Taylor's got his work cut
• 47:31
  Speaker 30: auted for him tonight. So there's literally too many targets.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: That's going to be the tough bit.
• 47:35
  Speaker 30: Otherwise he's going to go for three days doing his
• 47:37
  Speaker 30: budget reply speech.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Albo's problem is that too many people are changing their
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: position on him.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I think I've got to show you.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I've got to show you this question from the House
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: of Representatives today. It's about Anika Wells and her sports
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: ruts and the latest scandal regarding the party where she
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: had an official meeting in Adelaide. It's just a brilliant question.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Require there's no answer, can't get an answer.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Have a look.
• 48:03
  Speaker 16: My question is to the Minister for Communications in which
• 48:07
  Speaker 16: room at the live music venue the Jade did the
• 48:10
  Speaker 16: Minister hold her quote sideline meeting while at the fortieth
• 48:15
  Speaker 16: birthday party of her close personal friend, the bar, the garden,
• 48:20
  Speaker 16: kiosk or the room with the pinball machine?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: What's your money.
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: On, tim, I'd always go the pinnies.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you can.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: You can help out the charmers, you know, the treasury
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: by putting a twenty cent coin on it. Just the
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: book the next game in old and seventies style.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Look, I get to addle quite a bit. It's my
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: hometown mark, But I don't know the jade. I'm going
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: to have to look it up and go.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: And have a beer in the pinball room. I reckon, Yes,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: well mate, I'll meet you there.
• 48:50
  Speaker 30: It's a business expense. If we meet in the room machine.
• 48:52
  Speaker 30: We can write it off and claim, right mate, it
• 48:56
  Speaker 30: to win win.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: All right, now, I'll never forget our great mate Chris On.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Actually I'll put that claim into Sky News. I'll see
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: how we go. Let's check it on Chris Bowen. He's
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: still out there telling us all what a brilliant job
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: he's doing. And tell you want to talk about political lies,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: he says they're in reewables, are cheap, and they're reliable.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I would have thought this was the main issue. And
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: he says they're sovereign. Of course, he's a sovereign for China.
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: A bit of a worry the repetition of sovereign there
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: is he changed his position on sovereign citizens? Is he
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: declaring himself sovereign? We're gonna we're gonna watch that feller.
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: He might have a might have a shipping container in
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: the backyard. Yeah, A bit of a worry. But that
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: he just keeps repeating this thing and people are wise
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: to it. And there we're seeing the polls reflect the
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: fact that people are wise to it. We know that
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: he's lying. It's not working anymore exactly.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: People are wising up now, people might be wising up
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: to Cole's Supermarkets too, after they were caught out for
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: putting their.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Prices up before discounting them.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: With this sort of marketing, some people blame Cole's mark,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I blame status quo.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 50:27
  Speaker 30: Well, you can certainly blame the status quo now you
• 50:30
  Speaker 30: know the economic situation. But how ironic that the whole
• 50:33
  Speaker 30: ad campaign is based around a red hand and then
• 50:35
  Speaker 30: they've just been caught red handed as well by the
• 50:38
  Speaker 30: a triple se But I'll tell you what, They've probably
• 50:40
  Speaker 30: already priced in the fine that they'll get out of
• 50:43
  Speaker 30: this whole ordeal. But I don't think they've priced in
• 50:45
  Speaker 30: the retribution that people are going to be taking out
• 50:49
  Speaker 30: at the self service checkouts this weekend. I think everything's
• 50:51
  Speaker 30: on special at Cole's this weekend. Everything's a Pumpkins's alf
• 50:56
  Speaker 30: service checkout.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I reckon this weekend. Get into Carl's.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Hey, look, I know we do like to have a
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: laugh in this segment, but I want to finish up
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: on a very serious matter of global strategic interest, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: that is the fact that we've all wondered for so
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: long as to why Emmanuel mccron was slapped across the face.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: By his wife in this incident. Come back a year
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: or two. It was the great slap.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: We've now found out why it's and we now know
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: what went on behind the behind the door there behind
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: the fuselage.
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: Yes, it was a steamy text. Now, by the way,
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: just to be slapped in the face by a lady
• 51:37
  Speaker 8: in France is a war crime. It's been very seriously
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: over there. And also we should be on careful legal
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: notice not to refer to the French first lady as
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: a slapper.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I would have thought.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Also it's hardly newsworthy for a French political leader to
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: have somebody on the side.
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: Oh look, it goes way back exactly. I think the
• 52:04
  Speaker 8: steamy text message is the only thing that's been modernized here.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly the rest of the standard procedure. Thanks for joining us, gentlemen.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. We'll catch you next week.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson there where right out of time.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Don't forget Angus Taylor. Seven thirty tonight, here's Peter Kredlin