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- 0:01Speaker 1: Peter Kranbler live on Sky News Australia.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program Big Week Ahead. Is
- 0:13Speaker 2: What's coming out tonight on Kredline This afternoon. In Melbourne,
- 0:15Speaker 2: fourteen's accused of driving a stolen BMW through Burke Street
- 0:19Speaker 2: Mall arrested by police ages seventeen, sixteen and fifteen, and
- 0:25Speaker 2: a number of them are reported to have been involved
- 0:27Speaker 2: previously in violent crimes carjackings, home invasions, car thefts and
- 0:33Speaker 2: assaults with weapons. Sadly, just another day in the country's
- 0:38Speaker 2: crime capital. Still in Victoria, the Premier under fire after
- 0:41Speaker 2: it was revealed that the father who sexually abused his
- 0:45Speaker 2: own daughter was being held in a women's prison after
- 0:48Speaker 2: identifying as a woman. PLASA report the Alberenezy govit doesn't
- 0:53Speaker 2: want you to know about exposing how the so called
- 0:56Speaker 2: export education systems actually become a migration scam. I'll take
- 1:01Speaker 2: you through that in a moment, as Flack continues over
- 1:05Speaker 2: the private ministerial welcome for the latest intake of people
- 1:09Speaker 2: out of Gaza and Anthony Albanezi under fire after flying
- 1:13Speaker 2: his vip jet from New York to Britain to speak
- 1:17Speaker 2: at a political conference. For the UK Labor.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Party giving a speech backing in a political party in
- 1:26Speaker 3: another country that really does cross the line.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Come back to that in a moment. First, where Donald
- 1:34Speaker 2: Trump said last week in New York that climate change
- 1:37Speaker 2: was a con and that energy policy was killing countries
- 1:41Speaker 2: like ours. Many dismissed it as the lies and lines
- 1:44Speaker 2: you'd expect from this president. But what about much the
- 1:49Speaker 2: same coming from former President of the ACTU Jenny George.
- 1:55Speaker 2: For a long time now, the former president and former
- 1:58Speaker 2: Labor MP George has been sounding the alarm about the
- 2:03Speaker 2: coming crisis and energy affordability and reliability. And in a
- 2:07Speaker 2: piece she wrote in The Australian over the weekend, this
- 2:10Speaker 2: former Labor stallboard didn't miss. She said that the Albanese
- 2:15Speaker 2: government's pressing ahead with quote with an energy transition based
- 2:19Speaker 2: on intermittent, whether dependent renewables, regardless of emerging problems. She
- 2:25Speaker 2: said that the twenty thirty five targets are politically determined,
- 2:29Speaker 2: said to sixty two to seventy percent, even though Labour's
- 2:33Speaker 2: current twenty thirty targets won't be met. Setting higher targets,
- 2:38Speaker 2: she said, can't mask the fundamental problems of a target's
- 2:42Speaker 2: driven transition. It will satisfy an international audience but will
- 2:47Speaker 2: fail our domestic needs. Climate Minister Chris Bowen, she went
- 2:52Speaker 2: on and said, remains blind to the reality our economy
- 2:56Speaker 2: can't be powered by intermittent, whether dependent renewables, nor are
- 3:02Speaker 2: they the cheapest form of energy when whole of system
- 3:06Speaker 2: costs are included. That's why the government refuses to release
- 3:10Speaker 2: full costing, she said. Without the billions in taxpayer funded
- 3:15Speaker 2: subsidies and relief packages, Labour's transition may have collapsed by
- 3:20Speaker 2: now and still may its magic. Putting economics says this
- 3:25Speaker 2: form of president of the ACTU, and it's not sustainable,
- 3:30Speaker 2: she declared. Jenny George, a labor icon, is absolutely right.
- 3:36Speaker 2: The crunch will come, as Jenny George says, when more
- 3:39Speaker 2: qualified power exits a system such as the giant Arring
- 3:43Speaker 2: power station in New South Wales, a country's biggest earlier,
- 3:47Speaker 2: is slated to close this year, but now with its
- 3:50Speaker 2: life extended via taxpayer subsidies from the New South Wales government.
- 3:54Speaker 2: The alb and Easy government says this so called green transition,
- 3:58Speaker 2: this decarbonized praise process, is unstoppable. But that's wrong. It's
- 4:04Speaker 2: not happening any near to this extent overseas as it's
- 4:09Speaker 2: happening in Australia because in part other countries are waking up.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Their targets are a lot lower than ours, and that's
- 4:18Speaker 2: where they even have targets. Don't forget the world's biggest
- 4:22Speaker 2: emitters are having none of Chris Bowen's Green revolution, and
- 4:26Speaker 2: most are doing what former UK Labor PM Tony Blair
- 4:29Speaker 2: is urging us to do, to walk away from net
- 4:32Speaker 2: zero twenty fifty, because he argues it's doomed to fail.
- 4:37Speaker 2: As a country. We are in desperate need for real
- 4:41Speaker 2: leadership on energy policy the government. It's a hopeless case.
- 4:46Speaker 2: So enough nasal gazing from the Liberals. The Opposition must
- 4:51Speaker 2: expedite its energy policy review. It's not as if this
- 4:54Speaker 2: is a new issue, is it. And if the leader
- 4:57Speaker 2: won't do it, then sorry, change the leader. Twelve months
- 5:01Speaker 2: to review where you stand on something as fundamental as
- 5:04Speaker 2: our energy sovereignty says everything you need to know about
- 5:08Speaker 2: a liberal party that's lost sight of what they stand for.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Now to immigration and a shock government report quietly dropped
- 5:22Speaker 2: out that few others appear to have picked up. In Australia,
- 5:26Speaker 2: the main drive for exploding mirgrant numbers is so called
- 5:29Speaker 2: export education. Now, if you think people come here to
- 5:33Speaker 2: study because our universities are so good, we'll think again.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Most of them don't even rank in the world's top
- 5:40Speaker 2: one hundred. But still they come because we offer under
- 5:44Speaker 2: the table something that few other Western countries do. And
- 5:49Speaker 2: that's a backdoor way to turn a stint studying here
- 5:52Speaker 2: into permanent residency. Adding our generous health and welfare safety
- 5:57Speaker 2: net and handouts for this and handouts for that, and
- 6:00Speaker 2: that's why Australia is chosen. And confirmation that the federal
- 6:05Speaker 2: government knows this is happening has just been confirmed by
- 6:09Speaker 2: an official government report. Sure, the experts claim that we
- 6:13Speaker 2: have a strictly skills based immigration system that's boosting productivity
- 6:18Speaker 2: and prosperity. But again that's not right, as the government's
- 6:22Speaker 2: own report by Jobs and Skills Australia confirms, for many
- 6:27Speaker 2: students migration aspirations are a primary goal. The report goes
- 6:32Speaker 2: on graduates, they say, well, their persistence means that they
- 6:37Speaker 2: have become an important feeder group to Australia's permanent migration
- 6:41Speaker 2: program due to an increasing trend towards international students transitioning
- 6:47Speaker 2: to permanent residents. Now, for years, Australians have been told
- 6:52Speaker 2: by successive governments that oversee students are especially good for
- 6:56Speaker 2: ends because they are a rich stream of revenue and
- 7:00Speaker 2: also of highly desirable, highly skilled migrants, so we should
- 7:04Speaker 2: allow them to stay. But as the pandemic showed, when
- 7:08Speaker 2: all the students went home, it wasn't brain surgeons and
- 7:11Speaker 2: rocket scientists who were suddenly shored of, but it was
- 7:15Speaker 2: drivers and cleaners, and waiters and fruit pickers, which busts
- 7:20Speaker 2: the myth from the politicians that our migrants are highly skilled,
- 7:24Speaker 2: when mostly they are not. There are currently just over
- 7:28Speaker 2: seven hundred thousand people in Australia on student visas and
- 7:33Speaker 2: just over another two hundred thousand former students here for
- 7:37Speaker 2: a temporary period as graduates, and nearly all of them
- 7:42Speaker 2: close to one million, are aiming to stay. The report
- 7:46Speaker 2: goes on, and some overseas students, it says, do not
- 7:49Speaker 2: regularly engage with Australians, often living and working with people
- 7:53Speaker 2: from their own culture, which limits their exposure to Australian
- 7:57Speaker 2: working and communication habits and may degrade their language skills.
- 8:03Speaker 2: That what sees more than half of international students remain
- 8:07Speaker 2: in Australia permanently once they graduate, and that more than
- 8:11Speaker 2: fifty percent are employed well below their skill levels and
- 8:16Speaker 2: many are working outside their field of qualifications. Now let
- 8:20Speaker 2: me say that again. This is an official government report
- 8:24Speaker 2: out last week that more than half of the people
- 8:28Speaker 2: were let into this country to study never ever return home.
- 8:34Speaker 2: If you're wondering why you're uber drivers always a recent
- 8:38Speaker 2: graduate born outside Australia, well now you know it's because
- 8:43Speaker 2: export educations become a migration scam, allowing people to get
- 8:48Speaker 2: here under false pretenses. You can hardly blame the students,
- 8:52Speaker 2: they want a better life. But to you what you
- 8:54Speaker 2: should blame successive governments for tolerating this racket. And while
- 8:59Speaker 2: I'm mad at on the hu you of dubious vigration,
- 9:02Speaker 2: how about this footage from Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke
- 9:05Speaker 2: personally greeting a planload of people from Gaza that landed
- 9:09Speaker 2: in Sydney last week. More people out of a terrorist
- 9:12Speaker 2: war zone that government officials have admitted they do not
- 9:15Speaker 2: have the capacity to that properly as a security risk.
- 9:21Speaker 4: Some individuals claim that visit a visa for relatives were
- 9:23Speaker 4: approved within one hour it is possible, sure, but how
- 9:27Speaker 4: could you possibly do all the necessary security and other
- 9:30Speaker 4: checks in just an hour from an applicant. I mean
- 9:32Speaker 4: that's lightning speed approval when we apply that.
- 9:37Speaker 5: That vast range of information to consideration of visit aversions.
- 9:41Speaker 5: So if you look globally, a very large number of
- 9:44Speaker 5: our visit divisas would be done inside an.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Hour, other than a big Muslim population in his electorate.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Why was Burke there? I mean, I've never seen an
- 9:55Speaker 2: immigration minister meeting visa holders at the airport and then
- 10:00Speaker 2: lodging questions from the media when asked why he's there. Already,
- 10:04Speaker 2: Australia has issued some three thousand visas to gardens and
- 10:08Speaker 2: from what we know already, almost all of the people
- 10:12Speaker 2: that have arrived to date have stayed here are now
- 10:16Speaker 2: applied to stay or be considered as refugees. So here's
- 10:21Speaker 2: some questions for the minister. How many visas has Labor
- 10:24Speaker 2: now issued to Garzans, How do we know that they're
- 10:28Speaker 2: not supporters of the banded terrorist group ham US, How
- 10:33Speaker 2: well are they security checked now here? How many of
- 10:37Speaker 2: them have applied for refugee status and how many have
- 10:41Speaker 2: been accepted? What support are they receiving what welfare, if any,
- 10:46Speaker 2: is being provided, free childcare, free education, income and rental support.
- 10:53Speaker 2: We know that a number of state governments have already
- 10:56Speaker 2: signaled that they will get free healthcare or what else.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Australians are paying the cost of all of this, and
- 11:03Speaker 2: they've got to write to this information. If the Minister
- 11:06Speaker 2: can front up to the airport to meet them, then
- 11:08Speaker 2: Tony Berg needs to front up to the media and
- 11:10Speaker 2: provide his information to the Australian public. All right, let's
- 11:19Speaker 2: get the headlines now, Skyne to his political reporter Ribbon Spargo.
- 11:24Speaker 6: The Opposition is calling for a full independent inquiry into
- 11:28Speaker 6: the nation's triple zero system. After Optus was forced to
- 11:31Speaker 6: issue another apology to customers over a fresh outage. Susan
- 11:36Speaker 6: Lee accused the Communications Minister of swaning around in New
- 11:40Speaker 6: York during the crisis.
- 11:42Speaker 3: This is a minister who failed in age care, who
- 11:46Speaker 3: is failing in communications, and who seemed to fail upwards
- 11:51Speaker 3: on a seat on a plane to New York.
- 11:53Speaker 6: The Communications Regulator is investigating Optus.
- 11:57Speaker 7: This can't happen again. This is an absence, disolutely shocking failure.
- 12:01Speaker 6: The Treasurer appeared not to rule out a wider investigation
- 12:05Speaker 6: into the Triple zero program. A surge and tax revenue
- 12:08Speaker 6: has hacked Australia's budget deficit down to ten billion dollars
- 12:12Speaker 6: last financial year. According to the treasurer its proof of
- 12:16Speaker 6: Labour's responsible economic management, the books were predicted to be
- 12:20Speaker 6: twenty seven point nine billion dollars in the red.
- 12:23Speaker 7: This is the biggest ever positive improvement in the budget
- 12:28Speaker 7: in a single parliamentary term.
- 12:30Speaker 3: We can see a government that is increasing taxes, increasing spending.
- 12:35Speaker 6: Government debt is said to hit one trillion dollars this
- 12:38Speaker 6: financial year. The Prime Minister is on the final leg
- 12:41Speaker 6: of his overseas tour, landing in Abu Dhabi for trade
- 12:45Speaker 6: talks with the President of the United Arab Emirates. The
- 12:48Speaker 6: pair will discuss the beginning of the Australia UA Comprehensive
- 12:52Speaker 6: Economic Partnership Agreement. Nearly all Australian products will enter the
- 12:55Speaker 6: country without tariffs, including meat, dairy, grains and minerals.
- 13:03Speaker 2: All right, let's stay with aunngelobt troning Prime Minister New
- 13:05Speaker 2: York last week London over the weekend. You can see
- 13:08Speaker 2: that he's in Abu Dhaby. But where it's caused political
- 13:12Speaker 2: controversy is his attendance at a UK Labor conference warning
- 13:17Speaker 2: against the rise of the populace right, adopting very US
- 13:21Speaker 2: style retrick about democracy being at stake.
- 13:26Speaker 8: But what I see here in UK Labor and this man,
- 13:31Speaker 8: this leader, this Prime minister, my friend, is the same
- 13:34Speaker 8: determination that I know lives in every member of the
- 13:40Speaker 8: Australian Labor Party, an absolute resolve to stand together and
- 13:46Speaker 8: defend democracy itself.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Jeremy now Skarni's political contributor, Chris Joulman, Chris a legion
- 13:55Speaker 2: of criticism today, not just from the opposition, you'd sort
- 13:58Speaker 2: of expect that, but a number of mast heads, a
- 14:01Speaker 2: number of journalists traveling with the Prime minister have argued
- 14:05Speaker 2: that it's very indulgent to have attended this political conference
- 14:10Speaker 2: in Birmingham. I think it was, and the PM's own
- 14:13Speaker 2: departmental officials, so the public servants abandoned him on the
- 14:17Speaker 2: last leg. They felt very uncomfortable about the political tone
- 14:22Speaker 2: of that speech. Is there anything here that concerns you, Yeah, Peter.
- 14:29Speaker 9: I think as a general rule, prime ministers should avoid
- 14:31Speaker 9: going to partisan events when they're overseas. But I am
- 14:34Speaker 9: old enough to have been on the plane that took
- 14:35Speaker 9: Scott Morrison to wap A Canetta in Ohio, to the
- 14:39Speaker 9: Pratt Factory in the company of Donald Trump, and to
- 14:42Speaker 9: what turned out to be a Donald Trump rally. Essentially
- 14:46Speaker 9: that Scott Morrison was smack bang in the middle of
- 14:48Speaker 9: Now he might argue that he wasn't expecting that, but
- 14:50Speaker 9: I think that you could know anywhere you went with
- 14:52Speaker 9: Donald Trump to that kind of event, that was what
- 14:54Speaker 9: it's going to be. So yeah, I do agree Prime
- 14:57Speaker 9: ministers should try to avoid doing that sort of thing.
- 15:00Speaker 9: The Albaniz he's not on his loanes and when.
- 15:01Speaker 2: It comes to doing that, yeah, I do feel at
- 15:06Speaker 2: the moment if you look at his schedule since he
- 15:09Speaker 2: was returned in May, except that there's the summit season,
- 15:12Speaker 2: there's things to do, but he's spending an inordinate amount
- 15:16Speaker 2: of time away. And it wasn't just obviously that labor conference.
- 15:19Speaker 2: There was this whole left wing conference going on in
- 15:23Speaker 2: the UK. He bought into all of that. There appears
- 15:27Speaker 2: to be quite a bit of concern on the left
- 15:29Speaker 2: about the rise of the populist right, concern obviously about
- 15:33Speaker 2: reforming the UK. Other parties like the AfD and others
- 15:37Speaker 2: are inuable a Penn's movement back in France. Obviously, we've
- 15:41Speaker 2: seen Donald Trump in the United States, and so there's
- 15:44Speaker 2: an attempt with his term in LPMS using it quite
- 15:47Speaker 2: a bit now progressive patriotism to try and buy back
- 15:51Speaker 2: those people that have left the center and left the
- 15:55Speaker 2: left because they don't feel that anyone's really defending their culture.
- 15:59Speaker 2: Have a listen.
- 16:02Speaker 8: We do that by embracing patriotism as a truly progressive cause,
- 16:07Speaker 8: by demonstrating that our love of country is what drives
- 16:12Speaker 8: us to serve it and also to change it for
- 16:17Speaker 8: the better, by encouraging pride in everything that sets our
- 16:21Speaker 8: nations apart from the world.
- 16:26Speaker 2: I think they really spook by the British flags and
- 16:28Speaker 2: the rallies and the same thing are here in Australia.
- 16:31Speaker 2: But I think it's a bit rich coming from a
- 16:32Speaker 2: bloke who can't decide which flag is the national flag.
- 16:36Speaker 2: He puts all three of them on his plane. Now
- 16:37Speaker 2: I watch him overseas the entourage carry the flags. I'm
- 16:41Speaker 2: surprised there wasn't three on the stage behind him in Birmingham. Chris,
- 16:46Speaker 2: But do you think the left are spoot by what's
- 16:50Speaker 2: been playing it out? On the streets of London in particular.
- 16:55Speaker 9: I have no doubt about that, Peter, And it's essentially
- 16:58Speaker 9: a reaction to Massimo people feeling that they're losing control
- 17:02Speaker 9: of their country. And certainly in the UK, I think
- 17:04Speaker 9: you could put a big chunk of that down to Brexit.
- 17:08Speaker 9: But I think in Australia things are quite different and
- 17:11Speaker 9: we push more towards the center here, mainly because of
- 17:13Speaker 9: our electoral system. And I do worry about the extremes
- 17:16Speaker 9: on the right and on the left, But can I
- 17:18Speaker 9: say in Australia, I worry that it's the extremes of
- 17:21Speaker 9: the left which are commanding all of the levers of
- 17:26Speaker 9: power in Australia. And I'll give you one example. At
- 17:29Speaker 9: the moment, we have the Sex Discrimination Commissioner arguing before
- 17:33Speaker 9: court that there is no such thing as male or female. Now,
- 17:37Speaker 9: I would think that's a pretty extreme position and that
- 17:39Speaker 9: may now well be entrenched in law and there's nothing
- 17:42Speaker 9: that you or I can do to change that, and
- 17:44Speaker 9: that will have an enormous effect on women and they're
- 17:47Speaker 9: safe spaces in Australia. I believe that's an extremist position
- 17:52Speaker 9: that worries me. But I don't hear anyone complaining about that.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Well, you have me watching me, Chris. I've been banging
- 18:00Speaker 2: on about that for about five years now because.
- 18:02Speaker 9: We've also I'm leaving us aside of that.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Under Daniel Andrews under Daniel Andrews, and it's infected every
- 18:11Speaker 2: other jurisdiction in this country. It's something that's gone overseas.
- 18:14Speaker 2: We obviously saw it be quite a feature in Scotland
- 18:18Speaker 2: at one time and it lost the Scottish leader her
- 18:21Speaker 2: job and it was repudiated in legislation coming out of Britain.
- 18:25Speaker 2: So it's not in the UK in the way it
- 18:27Speaker 2: is here in Australia. But yeah, it's a huge issue.
- 18:30Speaker 2: A bit later on, I'm going to talk to Rachel
- 18:32Speaker 2: Wong about what's happening in a prison in Victoria or
- 18:34Speaker 2: a convicted pedophile who sexually abused his five year old
- 18:38Speaker 2: daughter now identifies as a woman and as in a
- 18:42Speaker 2: prison with the women. But I'll come to that if
- 18:46Speaker 2: you think that's bad. What's going to happen now with
- 18:48Speaker 2: this push by the Human Rights Commission basically supported today
- 18:52Speaker 2: by the Commissioner Lorraine Finlay in the Australian So it's
- 18:57Speaker 2: not a rumor. This is a real push to shut
- 19:01Speaker 2: down what I would regard as any debate that's critical
- 19:04Speaker 2: of a very very pro called climate position.
- 19:09Speaker 9: Oh, Peter, Now there's a Senate a committee hearing at
- 19:11Speaker 9: the moment which is looking into what they call astroturfing.
- 19:14Speaker 9: And the entire reason for doing that is because what
- 19:17Speaker 9: the Greens would argue is that the people who argue
- 19:21Speaker 9: against the government's climate policies and against their policies. And
- 19:24Speaker 9: can I say that's what I argue against. It's the policies,
- 19:27Speaker 9: it's not the idea as to whether or not there
- 19:29Speaker 9: is such a thing as climate change. But now that
- 19:31Speaker 9: all gets lumped together. So if you or I say
- 19:34Speaker 9: we think that net zero is a fraud, then you
- 19:36Speaker 9: get accused of being a climate does deny. If you
- 19:38Speaker 9: say that you think that the government's program when it
- 19:40Speaker 9: comes to trying to transition our energy system is not
- 19:43Speaker 9: going to be work, it's going to be ridiculously expensive,
- 19:45Speaker 9: you get accused of being a climate change denier. Now
- 19:49Speaker 9: the Greens would like to see legislation that charges people
- 19:52Speaker 9: like us for our ideas, And it would appear that
- 19:54Speaker 9: the Human Rights Commissioner is at least in part on board.
- 19:58Speaker 9: I see all the qualifications that are put around that,
- 20:01Speaker 9: but can I say again I'm old. I remember arguing
- 20:04Speaker 9: against eighteen C on the Racial Discrimination Bill back in
- 20:08Speaker 9: the nineteen nineties and saying it would be extended to
- 20:10Speaker 9: a point where people would be prosecuted for their points
- 20:13Speaker 9: of view, and that's exactly what happened. So I have
- 20:15Speaker 9: no trust at all in the Human Rights Commission, particularly
- 20:18Speaker 9: when I see the way the Human Rights Commissioner and
- 20:20Speaker 9: the Sex Discrimination Commissioner are acting. I think that they
- 20:24Speaker 9: are extremists and that they are a real and present
- 20:27Speaker 9: danger to free speech in this country.
- 20:32Speaker 2: There's no consistency of argument here because biological science doesn't
- 20:36Speaker 2: matter if you want to identify as a woman. Climate
- 20:40Speaker 2: science does matter. So we can't contest anything to do
- 20:44Speaker 2: with the climate science. And I'm not saying whether or
- 20:46Speaker 2: not climate change is really that for people to go
- 20:48Speaker 2: down the rabbit burrow on I'm talking about physics reality
- 20:52Speaker 2: or engineering science. Can you do what Chris Bowen wants
- 20:57Speaker 2: us to do in the available time with the engineering
- 21:01Speaker 2: reality we have in Australia and the intermitute, whether science
- 21:04Speaker 2: of the wind and the intermittent sign unless he comes
- 21:08Speaker 2: up with something about the sun shine at night, Chris,
- 21:11Speaker 2: I mean, why can't we debate these things? But others
- 21:14Speaker 2: we are not allowed to debate some we can. None
- 21:17Speaker 2: of this makes any any sense, Well.
- 21:23Speaker 9: Peter, they wonder why people will get angry, and people
- 21:26Speaker 9: get angry because the quite reasonable views that we have
- 21:30Speaker 9: are in the end criminalized. That's what's being attempted here.
- 21:34Speaker 9: And you're dead right. I mean, if you can actually argue,
- 21:37Speaker 9: as the Sex Discrimination Commissioner does, that there's no such
- 21:40Speaker 9: thing as male and female, then when I say that
- 21:42Speaker 9: I think that climate change is real but perhaps the
- 21:45Speaker 9: largest scare campaign in human history, it doesn't mean I'm
- 21:48Speaker 9: denying the science. I'm just saying that I think the
- 21:50Speaker 9: science is being radically overwhelmed, and certainly nothing I say
- 21:54Speaker 9: is anywhere near as radical is what the Sex Discrimination
- 21:57Speaker 9: Commissioner is claiming in her a remit. But let's make
- 22:01Speaker 9: no mistake about this. There is an attempt by those
- 22:04Speaker 9: on the left to try and silence people who criticize
- 22:07Speaker 9: the policies of government, not the science, but the policies
- 22:11Speaker 9: of government in response to what they see as a threat.
- 22:14Speaker 9: And I see that as a genuine threat to free
- 22:18Speaker 9: speech in this country. And in the end, Peter, I
- 22:21Speaker 9: think what will happen with this stuff is that you know,
- 22:23Speaker 9: the government's plans will not fall over because of a
- 22:26Speaker 9: political debate. They will fall over because of physics and
- 22:29Speaker 9: as the rest of the world abandons them. But in
- 22:31Speaker 9: the meantime I'll try and shut up people like.
- 22:34Speaker 4: You and me.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Well, not going to happen. Chris, You're not going anywhere either,
- 22:40Speaker 2: am I there?
- 22:45Speaker 10: Yeah?
- 22:45Speaker 2: Well probably probably yes if you identify as the woman.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Of course you can share with me California and Governor
- 22:52Speaker 2: Gavin newsm of course it is the nemesis of Donald Trump.
- 22:57Speaker 2: As soon as Rudd got that meaning secured, that Prime
- 23:00Speaker 2: Minister and the President on the twenty October next month
- 23:03Speaker 2: have a look at this image. Couldn't wait to embrace
- 23:05Speaker 2: his best mate. I really wonder whether he'll get a
- 23:08Speaker 2: guernsey to that meeting. I think he'll be shown the door.
- 23:11Speaker 2: We will see or at after the break, we're going
- 23:14Speaker 2: to come back to some big issues. Affordable homes. There's
- 23:18Speaker 2: a multi billion dollar fund. Wait till I tell you
- 23:22Speaker 2: just how few homes have been built and the richer
- 23:27Speaker 2: getting richer of EV subsidies but you are paying for it. Look,
- 23:36Speaker 2: welcome back that story. I played a little moment ago,
- 23:39Speaker 2: a shocking story about a father convicted of sexually assaulting
- 23:43Speaker 2: his own five year old daughter now in a women's
- 23:46Speaker 2: prison after he identified as a female. But let's go
- 23:50Speaker 2: to make it economic issues one of the big ticket
- 23:53Speaker 2: items for the Albanezy government housy and it says it's
- 23:58Speaker 2: repeatedly delivering on it promises, but staggering details today that
- 24:03Speaker 2: while promising to build some forty thousand affordable homes by
- 24:08Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight under the National Housing Fund, the equivalent
- 24:11Speaker 2: of just eight median price in new houses have been
- 24:15Speaker 2: built this year. That's it, you eart it right, just eight.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Here to talk us through the main concerns about the
- 24:23Speaker 2: speed or lack thereof, with the role at and the
- 24:25Speaker 2: government's housing target, Macro Business Chief Economists Leith van Onslan
- 24:31Speaker 2: Well Leeve, what the heck's going wrong?
- 24:35Speaker 5: It's all going pair shaped, Peter. We're not even close
- 24:37Speaker 5: to meeting these targets. It's not just this target, it's
- 24:40Speaker 5: the government's brought a one point two million housing target, which,
- 24:43Speaker 5: let's be honest, has zero chances have been met. This
- 24:45Speaker 5: target requires two hundred and forty thousand homes a year
- 24:48Speaker 5: to be built. We're one year in and the construction
- 24:51Speaker 5: rates are lagging by about sixty thousand homes per year,
- 24:53Speaker 5: or around twenty five percent. And even the government's own
- 24:56Speaker 5: advisory council, the National Housing Supply and Affordability Council, forecast
- 25:00Speaker 5: that the government's going to miss its one point two
- 25:02Speaker 5: million homes target by about two hundred and sixty two
- 25:04Speaker 5: thousand homes. So it's an absolute debarkle.
- 25:09Speaker 2: And it's not all though. We're even standing still, you
- 25:12Speaker 2: know that we've got the population we have, or build
- 25:15Speaker 2: these homes and get them done, we'll catch up the stock.
- 25:18Speaker 2: We're still bringing vast numbers of people from overseas.
- 25:22Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. So just last year, you know, we
- 25:25Speaker 5: bought in three hundred and thirty five thousand net migrants
- 25:28Speaker 5: actually a year to March was about three hundred sixteen thousand,
- 25:30Speaker 5: But of those three hundred and thirty five thousand landed
- 25:32Speaker 5: last year, only about five thousand were tradees. So we're
- 25:36Speaker 5: basically massively increasing demand for housing, but we're not actually
- 25:39Speaker 5: bringing in anyone who can actually build that housing or
- 25:42Speaker 5: other infrastructure. So this is an absolute debarkle.
- 25:45Speaker 2: To be quite frank, where's the heat on the housing minister?
- 25:51Speaker 2: I mean the government can't blame the previous government. They
- 25:53Speaker 2: are the previous government. They've promised big now for two
- 25:57Speaker 2: successive terms. You know, if the minister can't believer, they
- 26:00Speaker 2: need to stand aside and put someone in who can.
- 26:03Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 26:03Speaker 5: But unfortunately Peter the Housing minister, the former Home Affairs minister. Right,
- 26:07Speaker 5: So there's a consistent theme here. The Albanese governments under
- 26:11Speaker 5: delivered on housing, but it's actually over delivered on immigration.
- 26:15Speaker 5: And you know, because of this, the National Housing Supply
- 26:17Speaker 5: and Affordability Council forecasts Australias housing shortage is going to
- 26:20Speaker 5: worsen by seventy nine thousand homes over the next five
- 26:23Speaker 5: years because immigration demand is going to continue to overrun supply.
- 26:26Speaker 5: But here's a rub, Peter. If the National Housing Supply
- 26:29Speaker 5: and Affordability councils own sensitivity analysis, which is buried right
- 26:33Speaker 5: at the back of the report, says that if population
- 26:35Speaker 5: growth was merely fifteen percent less than forecast, instead of
- 26:39Speaker 5: having seventy nine thousand shortage of homes, we'd actually have
- 26:42Speaker 5: a surplus of forty thousand homes over the next five years.
- 26:45Speaker 5: Now that tells you that the solution here is cut immigration,
- 26:48Speaker 5: pure and simple.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Let's talk about the budget deficit today. Quote about by
- 26:55Speaker 2: the Treasurer. God are the days when you used to
- 26:58Speaker 2: crow about a surplus and you know, potentially lose your
- 27:02Speaker 2: job if you keep turning up deficits. It was projected
- 27:05Speaker 2: to be thirty billion in the red. We've come in
- 27:08Speaker 2: still in the red at ten billion. The treasure reckons
- 27:11Speaker 2: that's a terrific result. My concern with this though, it's
- 27:15Speaker 2: not a reduction in the deficit because we've stopped spending.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Our spending has surged to its highest share of GDP
- 27:24Speaker 2: since the nineteen eighties. So I would regard this as
- 27:27Speaker 2: a timing changing accounting sleight of hand. If you look
- 27:32Speaker 2: in some of the detail there, it's a defense payment
- 27:35Speaker 2: that was meant to be made, a big ticket item
- 27:37Speaker 2: has been pushed out into another month or another financial cycle.
- 27:41Speaker 2: So that looks like it's accounted for the difference. But
- 27:45Speaker 2: nowhere in the language today from the Treasurer or the
- 27:49Speaker 2: Finance Minister Leath, did I see any attempt to even
- 27:52Speaker 2: deal with our trillion dollar debt burden, which I regard
- 27:57Speaker 2: as far more serious than just the deficit.
- 28:00Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, And look, let's be honest here. The outlook
- 28:03Speaker 5: for the federal budget is incredibly poor and it's facing
- 28:06Speaker 5: assaults on multiple fronts. So we've got commodity prices that
- 28:08Speaker 5: are expected to fall, which is going to lower company
- 28:10Speaker 5: tax receipts. The federal budgets bleeding exercise revenue because obviously,
- 28:15Speaker 5: as trainers are buying these illegal smokes, and we're also
- 28:17Speaker 5: being told to shift to evs which don't pay fuel excise,
- 28:20Speaker 5: the share of workers in the economy is shrinking as
- 28:22Speaker 5: the population ages, which means we've got less people paying
- 28:24Speaker 5: income taxes. We've got massive areas of expenditure like the
- 28:28Speaker 5: National Disability Insurance Scheme, which is growing fast. We've also
- 28:31Speaker 5: got these huge off budget spending items like the Snowy
- 28:36Speaker 5: Hydro two point zero and the Capacity Investments Scheme for
- 28:38Speaker 5: the role of renewables, and they're valued about twenty five
- 28:42Speaker 5: billion a years. So this is just an absolute joke,
- 28:45Speaker 5: and it just means that, you know, we're going to
- 28:47Speaker 5: have basically a decade of depth sits, if not worse.
- 28:49Speaker 5: And the worst thing, Peter, is that the federal budget,
- 28:53Speaker 5: as bad as it is the state badges are even worse.
- 28:55Speaker 5: They're drowning in debt trying to keep up with the infrastructure,
- 28:59Speaker 5: and that means that the federal budget is the ultimate
- 29:01Speaker 5: backstop for the states, and they could actually downgrade the
- 29:03Speaker 5: federal government.
- 29:08Speaker 2: You mentioned EVS. There's a report out today in terms
- 29:10Speaker 2: of the FBT available for EVS that's blown out over
- 29:14Speaker 2: the decade to twenty three billion dollars. I mean, that's
- 29:17Speaker 2: twenty three brand new hospitals in terms of the subsidies paid.
- 29:21Speaker 2: But shockingly, almost half of the subsidies are going to
- 29:25Speaker 2: people with very, very high incomes who could buy these
- 29:29Speaker 2: cars anyway. But the poor old taxes of working families
- 29:33Speaker 2: are lining their pockets. Yeah.
- 29:36Speaker 5: Absolutely, So the whole taxation arrangement around EVS is reverse
- 29:39Speaker 5: robin hood because it basically takes taxes from the poor
- 29:42Speaker 5: and gives it to the reach. And you know, you've
- 29:44Speaker 5: got to ask, in the era of budget deficits, why
- 29:46Speaker 5: is the government wasting scarce taxpayers money to subsidize private
- 29:50Speaker 5: car purchases. There are far better ways to spend tax
- 29:52Speaker 5: payer money than subsidizing private car car purchases. So, you know,
- 29:57Speaker 5: the reality is that EVS are massively subsidized, and the
- 30:00Speaker 5: in the federal and state government's buildings in lost revenue.
- 30:03Speaker 5: And these subsets are directly contributing to our budget deficits.
- 30:05Speaker 5: And they're also worse than inequality. It's disgusting policy.
- 30:11Speaker 2: Tell one day you'll come on Leith and you'll give
- 30:13Speaker 2: me a little bit of hope that we can turn
- 30:15Speaker 2: this ship around. But I don't sort of have that
- 30:17Speaker 2: when we leave tonight. Thanks for joining us after the
- 30:20Speaker 2: break the unbelievable revelation today a convicted pedophile father has
- 30:25Speaker 2: been serving time in a women's prison in Victoria. The
- 30:28Speaker 2: Premier burying her head in the sand, and Tony Burke
- 30:32Speaker 2: at the airport to meet that plane load of gardens
- 30:45Speaker 2: welcome back. Still to count the proposal to give young
- 30:47Speaker 2: African offenders in Victoria their own special courts, similar to
- 30:52Speaker 2: the state's Aboriginal coory courts. The first of the shocking
- 30:55Speaker 2: report today that a father convicted of the sexual abuse
- 30:58Speaker 2: of his five year old daughter now identifies as a
- 31:01Speaker 2: woman and has been placed in Victoria's Dame Phyllis Frost Center,
- 31:06Speaker 2: a woman's prison. Questions about this will put to just
- 31:09Speaker 2: into Alan. The Premier yesterday by The Australian, and she
- 31:13Speaker 2: has refused to comment, instead referring journalists to the corrections
- 31:16Speaker 2: Minister Enver Erduwan, and the best Erduan's office could come
- 31:21Speaker 2: up with was to say that the safety and welfare
- 31:24Speaker 2: of all prisoners in the system is paramount when determining
- 31:27Speaker 2: the placement of trans gender, diverse or intersex prisoners. The
- 31:32Speaker 2: placement of prisoners, they say, is subject to regular review.
- 31:36Speaker 2: Now this has prompted outrage from women's groups and ordinary Australians,
- 31:41Speaker 2: and someone who's been very outspoken is Rachel Wong, the
- 31:45Speaker 2: chief executive of Women's Forum Australia, and she joins me, Now, well, Rachel,
- 31:51Speaker 2: you were onto this earlier than others. I saw posts
- 31:54Speaker 2: you put up in recent days. You've written to the Premier.
- 32:00Speaker 2: You're angry about this move. What's been her response.
- 32:06Speaker 11: So Premier, since Ellen has only responded in the sense
- 32:10Speaker 11: of basically palming off our concerns to the corrections Minister.
- 32:14Speaker 11: I've actually sent her a follow up letter today saying
- 32:16Speaker 11: that this simply isn't good enough, especially in a matter
- 32:18Speaker 11: where women's rights and safety are at stake, that her
- 32:20Speaker 11: silence is actually taps approval of a policy which allows
- 32:24Speaker 11: dangerous male sex fenders to be housed a vulnerable women,
- 32:27Speaker 11: and that and that she basically needs to act onomus.
- 32:33Speaker 11: It's not good enough. And it's also very hypocritical, given
- 32:36Speaker 11: that she constantly speaks publicly about the importance of protecting
- 32:39Speaker 11: women's safety and any violence against women.
- 32:42Speaker 2: About this case, why does the rights, the so called
- 32:47Speaker 2: rights of this father a trump the rights of all
- 32:50Speaker 2: the other women in the Dame Phyllis Frost Center.
- 32:56Speaker 11: It's very good question, Peter. I think what we've seen
- 32:59Speaker 11: over the years is this rhetoric about being kind, this
- 33:02Speaker 11: constant affirmation of the delusion of men who want to
- 33:05Speaker 11: be women. And this is quite frankly, where that ideology
- 33:08Speaker 11: has ended up. It's ended up with vulnerable female inmates
- 33:12Speaker 11: been housed with dangerous male sex offenders. The government seems
- 33:16Speaker 11: to be captured. The Sex Discrimination Commissioner, who is the
- 33:18Speaker 11: one person who really should be advocating for women's rights
- 33:21Speaker 11: in this instance, is also captured. Haven't heard a word
- 33:23Speaker 11: from her either. And so you know, as long as
- 33:27Speaker 11: we go along with this insanity that men can be women,
- 33:31Speaker 11: that human means can change sex, then we're going to
- 33:34Speaker 11: end up with situations like.
- 33:35Speaker 2: This and just remind people at home to the Laura
- 33:40Speaker 2: in Victoria means that you can just wake up tomorrow
- 33:43Speaker 2: and decide you are female. There's no surgery, those no
- 33:47Speaker 2: medical assessment. You're not taking any sort of drugs to
- 33:52Speaker 2: lessen your male sex drive or your testoster. Right, all
- 33:55Speaker 2: the biological functions of your male intact body are still there,
- 34:02Speaker 2: that's right.
- 34:02Speaker 11: Victoria has sex self ID laws which means that anyone
- 34:05Speaker 11: can change their legal sex on their birth certificate tomorrow
- 34:08Speaker 11: and identify as the opposite sex. And obviously we've got
- 34:12Speaker 11: this correction's policy as well, which allows offenders to be
- 34:15Speaker 11: placed based on gender a into you rather than sex.
- 34:17Speaker 11: So the sex self ID laws need to be gone.
- 34:20Speaker 11: These prison policies need to be gone. They need to
- 34:23Speaker 11: be updated so that no man is ever housed in
- 34:25Speaker 11: a woman's prison in Victoria ever. Again, and quite frankly,
- 34:28Speaker 11: this needs to happen across the country because we have
- 34:29Speaker 11: sex self ID and we have these horrendous prison policies
- 34:32Speaker 11: across the country. Even though they try to pretend it's
- 34:35Speaker 11: not happening, it is.
- 34:39Speaker 2: We know that there's sort of a prison justice in
- 34:41Speaker 2: male prisons and if you are known to have murdered
- 34:45Speaker 2: a child or abused a child. Your face a sort
- 34:48Speaker 2: of rough justice, and a lot of times those prisoners
- 34:50Speaker 2: are held in solitary convironment. If the option of just
- 34:54Speaker 2: declaring yourself a woman gets you out of that environment
- 34:58Speaker 2: and potentially into what's perceived as a softer prison, a
- 35:02Speaker 2: woman's prison, then surely this is going to be that
- 35:06Speaker 2: the option for most sex offenders upon conviction, prior to sentencing,
- 35:11Speaker 2: just to say Jack day now, Jane, and hope to
- 35:15Speaker 2: go down this path. And I don't for a minute
- 35:18Speaker 2: think there's just one of these people in this situation.
- 35:21Speaker 2: Do we know of others.
- 35:25Speaker 11: Other sex offenders and prisons in Australia? Yes, yes, well
- 35:31Speaker 11: there was one in the Victorian prison just a few
- 35:33Speaker 11: years ago. He may be up by now. But the
- 35:36Speaker 11: reality is the only reason we're hearing about these cases
- 35:38Speaker 11: is because of whistleblowers. We know for a fact there
- 35:40Speaker 11: are one hundred men in women's prisons across the country.
- 35:45Speaker 11: What their crimes are I'm not quite sure of. But
- 35:48Speaker 11: we do know the overseas as well that the phenomenon
- 35:52Speaker 11: of men starting to identify as women after they get
- 35:55Speaker 11: convicted has become such a big thing that it's actually
- 35:58Speaker 11: referred to as prison on set gender sphoria because, as
- 36:01Speaker 11: you say, the men have seen this loophole and they thought, well,
- 36:04Speaker 11: you know, why not get a easier ride in a
- 36:06Speaker 11: women's prison, and so yeah, this needs to be dealt with.
- 36:09Speaker 11: This loophole needs to be fixed and men cannot be
- 36:13Speaker 11: allowed to be housing women's prisons with vulnerable women.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Well, I know the Premier would answer your questions and
- 36:19Speaker 2: has given you a pretty weak response and inflict the
- 36:21Speaker 2: many questions to the Prisons Corrections Minister. How can people
- 36:25Speaker 2: support your Rachel because I think we've all had enough.
- 36:27Speaker 2: How can we support your cause and your advocacy here?
- 36:31Speaker 11: Yeah, look, it's I think it's really critical the ordinary
- 36:33Speaker 11: Victorians and ordinary Australians contact the Premiere, contact the opposition
- 36:38Speaker 11: leader but that and asking him to hold the government
- 36:40Speaker 11: to account as well. We also have a petition on
- 36:43Speaker 11: our website, Women's Forum Australia dot org, forward slash get
- 36:46Speaker 11: them Out, which people can sign to which we will
- 36:48Speaker 11: be continually updating the Premiere on. But yeah, I think
- 36:52Speaker 11: they need to hear from as many people as possible
- 36:54Speaker 11: because the reality is people in authority are not advocating
- 36:56Speaker 11: for these women, so ordinary Australians have to do it themselves.
- 37:01Speaker 2: You go Women's Forum Australia dot or thank you Rachel,
- 37:04Speaker 2: keep it up after the break you i't believe the
- 37:06Speaker 2: staggering number of young men have died in Victoria over
- 37:09Speaker 2: the last five years as a result of a horrific
- 37:12Speaker 2: gang violence. But more today in the CBD of Melbourne
- 37:16Speaker 2: on that score, plus, the panel will weigh in on
- 37:19Speaker 2: Tony Burke's trip out to Sydney International the personally in
- 37:22Speaker 2: great greet the latest Garzen arrivals. Let's bring him a
- 37:32Speaker 2: panel our One Nation chief of Staff James Ashby and
- 37:34Speaker 2: senior fellow at the Men's Research Center, columnists at The
- 37:37Speaker 2: Australian Nick Keata gents welcome well the gars and visa issue.
- 37:43Speaker 2: I want to pick up though before that, New Zealand
- 37:46Speaker 2: deciding not to recognize Palestine common sense but to our
- 37:50Speaker 2: own Home Affairs Minister being caught out at Sydney Airport
- 37:54Speaker 2: personally greeting around fifty Garsen would be refugees come here
- 38:00Speaker 2: obviously on refugee visas. They must apply for that on shore,
- 38:03Speaker 2: but most are James. I don't think I've ever seen
- 38:06Speaker 2: an immigration minister basically out there at the tarmac welcoming
- 38:09Speaker 2: these guardsens and things have got worse, not better over there.
- 38:13Speaker 2: We couldn't attest to their security safety before. How the
- 38:20Speaker 2: heck are we doing it now?
- 38:23Speaker 12: Well, this is classic pandering for the Member of Watson,
- 38:28Speaker 12: because he knows what is currently a minority group in
- 38:30Speaker 12: this country. The Muslim vote is growing at a rapid rate.
- 38:33Speaker 12: We're a little over three percent at the last census.
- 38:36Speaker 12: You've got countries like Canada who are five, England's just
- 38:39Speaker 12: over six percent. France, God help them, they're getting closer
- 38:43Speaker 12: to ten percent. They're well in excess of nine at
- 38:46Speaker 12: the present moment. And look at the problems that have
- 38:48Speaker 12: been caused over there. Look, these people send a shivert
- 38:52Speaker 12: out of my spine in the Sydney airport just over
- 38:55Speaker 12: the weekend or on Friday.
- 38:57Speaker 10: And I'll tell you why, because that shrill that la
- 39:00Speaker 10: la la, la la la.
- 39:01Speaker 12: You know that shrill that the Palestinians make when they're
- 39:04Speaker 12: celebrating something. The last time I heard that wasn't in
- 39:07Speaker 12: the Sydney airport. It was following the attacks on October seven,
- 39:11Speaker 12: twenty twenty three, when twelve hundred Israelis lost their lives
- 39:16Speaker 12: because of Hamas and the attacks in Israel, and two
- 39:19Speaker 12: hundred and fifty of those people were taken as hostages.
- 39:23Speaker 12: That's what worries me. We are importing people. We cannot
- 39:27Speaker 12: be certain right for this country. They haven't been vetted properly.
- 39:32Speaker 12: And to see our minister at the airport welcoming them
- 39:36Speaker 12: like their long lost friends is a real concern to
- 39:39Speaker 12: most Australians.
- 39:42Speaker 2: Yeah, we will stay across that because, as I say,
- 39:43Speaker 2: I've never seen it happen before. And of course Burke
- 39:46Speaker 2: is highly political. He was holding citizenship ceremonies going into
- 39:51Speaker 2: the election for three thousand people or more right around
- 39:55Speaker 2: the country at a time. Let's go to Victoria, the
- 39:57Speaker 2: crime capital of the country. We can't pretend it's anything otherwise.
- 40:02Speaker 2: Today in the Herald Sign they had pictures of some
- 40:06Speaker 2: thirty young men and boys who've been murdered in Melbourne
- 40:09Speaker 2: over the past five years due to brutal street gang violence.
- 40:13Speaker 2: This is ashetty attacks, shootings. All of this is now
- 40:17Speaker 2: outpacing biki and organized crime gangs. And we saw today
- 40:24Speaker 2: nick in Melbourne. A car was stolen in the Eastern suburbs.
- 40:28Speaker 2: It was driven the way through the city. Pedestrian was
- 40:31Speaker 2: hidden Exhibition Street in Melbourne. This is the CBD, fortunately
- 40:36Speaker 2: not life threatening. There was a major arrest for young people,
- 40:40Speaker 2: arrested balaclava wearing young men. And when you look at
- 40:45Speaker 2: the rap sheet, a wrap sheet of some of these kids,
- 40:49Speaker 2: you wonder how on earth Victoria is going to turn
- 40:53Speaker 2: this around?
- 40:57Speaker 1: Exactly right, Peter. And the frustrating thing is, of course
- 40:59Speaker 1: we know what the answer to this is. I mean,
- 41:01Speaker 1: the evidence has been in from sociologists, criminologists going back
- 41:05Speaker 1: to the nineteen sixties. Then if you go soft on crime,
- 41:08Speaker 1: if you try and make allowances because they're somehow victims
- 41:12Speaker 1: of society, or they got in with a bad crowd,
- 41:14Speaker 1: or they come from a different culture, then crime will increase.
- 41:17Speaker 1: And that's exactly what's happened in Meldon. That the simple
- 41:20Speaker 1: solution of this, and I'm sorry to sound like a
- 41:22Speaker 1: broken record, the simple solution is tough policing and a
- 41:27Speaker 1: tough judicial system that will put these people behind bars.
- 41:30Speaker 1: And if we don't have enough room in the prisons,
- 41:33Speaker 1: then build some more. I mean, the safest, the best,
- 41:35Speaker 1: most surest way to get crime off the streets is
- 41:39Speaker 1: to put criminals in prison.
- 41:43Speaker 2: Well, that's not what they want. In Victoria. There's been
- 41:44Speaker 2: a push after a summit on this whole issue of
- 41:47Speaker 2: African gang crime Nick, for the creation of courts in
- 41:52Speaker 2: Victoria for African Australian offenders. They want to model the
- 41:58Speaker 2: a Kuri court system, the indigital court system where they
- 42:01Speaker 2: get sort of tribal justice alongside a magistrate. One of
- 42:05Speaker 2: the experts in the paper today was saying that African
- 42:07Speaker 2: kids need a justice process that speaks their language, not
- 42:11Speaker 2: the Australian language, but their language and involves their community. Well,
- 42:17Speaker 2: justice has got to be blind, Nick. There's one law
- 42:19Speaker 2: for one Australian and it's the law we all have
- 42:21Speaker 2: to follow.
- 42:24Speaker 1: That's right. Deserve Australian deserves equal respect. Every Australian is
- 42:28Speaker 1: equal before the law. This just blurs, it confuses it.
- 42:32Speaker 1: There is only one culture in this country when it
- 42:34Speaker 1: comes to crime, and that is you don't do it.
- 42:37Speaker 1: If you're an immigrant to this country, then you do
- 42:40Speaker 1: not commit a crime, or you face the consequences, which
- 42:42Speaker 1: should be by the way, deportation if you haven't already
- 42:45Speaker 1: got to the point of taking out as I think
- 42:48Speaker 1: we should be much surer, much firmer on saying you're
- 42:52Speaker 1: here on probation, you don't behave you're out.
- 42:57Speaker 2: We didn't have Greek courts or in the Vietnamese courts,
- 43:00Speaker 2: we have Chinese courts, James Ashby when we had other
- 43:04Speaker 2: significant waves of migration throughout our history. These people built
- 43:08Speaker 2: our country but arrived and adhere to all the laws
- 43:13Speaker 2: of the land once they were here. And we are
- 43:17Speaker 2: lucky we haven't imported a lot of crimes from elsewhere,
- 43:20Speaker 2: but we've sort of gone soft when it comes to
- 43:22Speaker 2: the gang violence. It's clearly coming out of particular countries,
- 43:26Speaker 2: particularly in Africa.
- 43:31Speaker 10: Yeah, that's for sure.
- 43:31Speaker 12: And look, there are some really great African families that
- 43:34Speaker 12: have come here for a better lifestyle. They've adapted very well,
- 43:36Speaker 12: they've integrated into society fantastically. But the problem is there's
- 43:40Speaker 12: always going to be a percentage that we've got to
- 43:42Speaker 12: get really tough on. And I don't care what.
- 43:44Speaker 10: Any state says they're not being tough enough.
- 43:46Speaker 12: Nick, You're right, they should be deported and to make
- 43:49Speaker 12: that just that little bit tougher, I think there needs
- 43:52Speaker 12: to be a stronger stance where we say to the
- 43:54Speaker 12: families of these thugs, to these murderers, to these people
- 43:58Speaker 12: who want to break and enter and hold communities to ransom.
- 44:02Speaker 12: We've got to say, if you can't pull your own
- 44:04Speaker 12: community into line, you've got to go too, because enough
- 44:08Speaker 12: is enough. And until we get strong and tough on this,
- 44:11Speaker 12: they will continue to fly out the law and they
- 44:13Speaker 12: continue to get away with it.
- 44:15Speaker 10: Next we'll have it.
- 44:16Speaker 12: This is a university who's recommended that we go and
- 44:19Speaker 12: create these whole new court systems for these black African gangs. No,
- 44:24Speaker 12: next we'll be asking for Sharia law courts like they've
- 44:26Speaker 12: got in England. That hasn't worked either. We are one country.
- 44:29Speaker 12: We should live under the one rules. Get rid of
- 44:32Speaker 12: the people who do not want to play by those rules.
- 44:37Speaker 2: I'll keep you on for a moment if I can,
- 44:40Speaker 2: James Esh, because I know you're a licensed pilot. What
- 44:43Speaker 2: did you make of the reports out today in the media,
- 44:45Speaker 2: And I know we have spoken it about here here
- 44:48Speaker 2: on the program before about aerial fire fighting. There's a
- 44:52Speaker 2: lot of concern now and firefighters and pilots are going
- 44:57Speaker 2: public saying they're worried they're going to be sitting ducks
- 45:00Speaker 2: in a major blaze because beyond the ground, fire fighting
- 45:04Speaker 2: crews don't believe they're going to get the support they
- 45:06Speaker 2: need from the areal bombardments because of wind turbines.
- 45:12Speaker 12: Yeah, and they should be worried because pilots, when they
- 45:15Speaker 12: want to fight fires, have to get as low as
- 45:17Speaker 12: about one hundred feet, which is very close to the ground.
- 45:20Speaker 12: And when you have these wind turbines that are sitting
- 45:23Speaker 12: around about eight hundred feet in the air, that is
- 45:26Speaker 12: a very big obstacle. You wouldn't even find Red Bull
- 45:30Speaker 12: Aviation pilots prepared to play in that sphere because it's
- 45:33Speaker 12: too dangerous and.
- 45:35Speaker 10: So you've already got issues.
- 45:37Speaker 12: I won't go to the technical detail of mechanical turbulence
- 45:40Speaker 12: that pilots already deal with fires, but they also get
- 45:43Speaker 12: them off wind turbines. So the reality of this is
- 45:46Speaker 12: we're talking about the Yas Valley. It will burn. That's
- 45:48Speaker 12: the reality. You put wind turbines in en mass and
- 45:52Speaker 12: as pilots have said, they will not be able to
- 45:54Speaker 12: get in there to help fight fires or put retardant
- 45:57Speaker 12: on areas that may come in in.
- 46:00Speaker 10: The face of a fire.
- 46:02Speaker 12: So the reality is people burn, and so too will
- 46:05Speaker 12: those wind turbines, and they all carry thousands of leaders
- 46:08Speaker 12: of diesel, which will only fuel the fire, not decrease
- 46:12Speaker 12: its ability to be put out.
- 46:16Speaker 2: Just quickly if I can, Nick John Pezudo revelations today,
- 46:19Speaker 2: this is the form of Victorian Liberal leader that on
- 46:23Speaker 2: the same day he was served with bankruptcy papers after
- 46:26Speaker 2: he lost that defamation case. Of course, Tamira Deeming he
- 46:30Speaker 2: sold for one dollar. He's fifty percent sharing a consultancy
- 46:34Speaker 2: firm to his wife, and then of course he got
- 46:37Speaker 2: himself that one and a half million dollar loan from
- 46:40Speaker 2: the Liberal Party. What do you make of this?
- 46:44Speaker 1: Any day we're not talking about the government in Victoria
- 46:47Speaker 1: is a day wasted. John Pursuito should look at this
- 46:50Speaker 1: and say, am I a positive for the Liberal Party
- 46:53Speaker 1: of the next election or a negative? Because I'm continually
- 46:56Speaker 1: in the news for all this sort of stuff. And
- 46:58Speaker 1: if he concludes that he should do that he's a negative,
- 47:01Speaker 1: then he should step down from the seed of Hawthorne,
- 47:03Speaker 1: retire out of public life and never be seen again.
- 47:08Speaker 2: I think you're right. Look we're having in Burke Street today,
- 47:11Speaker 2: that's what Victorian's are living with the stick of this.
- 47:13Speaker 2: I'll live there, gents, see you next week. That's it
- 47:16Speaker 2: for me, See you tomorrow night. Here's the Bolt Report.