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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, It's Adam Kaplan here for Inside the Birds.
- 0:13Speaker 1: We wanted to update you own the Eagles in Chargers
- 0:15Speaker 1: injury situations. Because of the lateness of the practice week,
- 0:19Speaker 1: which starts Thursday for clubs for both of them, and
- 0:22Speaker 1: they go through Saturday. The Eagles will leave on Sunday,
- 0:25Speaker 1: as we understand it. For Los Angles, we expect a
- 0:30Speaker 1: big Eagle crowd there. We know for the Rams, we
- 0:33Speaker 1: know in twenty seventeen whether they play the Rams, and
- 0:38Speaker 1: when wentz toward the ACL where they played the Chargers,
- 0:41Speaker 1: when we called it the quake in the Home Depot
- 0:47Speaker 1: Center whatever they called it. Then I was actually at
- 0:48Speaker 1: a pro day there, gosh, twenty years ago. I joined
- 0:52Speaker 1: pro day between six schools, so I remember how small
- 0:56Speaker 1: that statium was. But the Eagles owned it in twenty
- 0:58Speaker 1: seventeen with that crowd, and we expect the Eagles have
- 1:03Speaker 1: a very big pro Philly crowd there. Although quite frankly,
- 1:08Speaker 1: and I know if I'm talking to the Chargers over
- 1:10Speaker 1: the years it's been as much as they have sort
- 1:13Speaker 1: of like a cold fallowing across the country. They felt
- 1:16Speaker 1: it would take them years because a that the Rams,
- 1:19Speaker 1: they're sharing the stadium it just would take them years
- 1:23Speaker 1: until whether they want a Super Bowl or not. It
- 1:24Speaker 1: just to take them years to build a big time
- 1:27Speaker 1: pro charger crowd. But you know they're a good football team.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Both teams are eight and four. Sol see what happens, right,
- 1:31Speaker 1: Let's get to Eagles injury situation. A left tackle Miles Hitting,
- 1:34Speaker 1: six round pick out of Michigan, he is He was
- 1:40Speaker 1: designated for return in Week twelve. He's been on ir
- 1:43Speaker 1: to start the season. He's nearing the nearing the end
- 1:46Speaker 1: of the twenty one day window. The Eagles will love
- 1:48Speaker 1: to take a look at him. Whereas we told folks
- 1:51Speaker 1: that Willy Willy Lampkin was never a consideration. He's a
- 1:55Speaker 1: project that needs an off season where hitting the like
- 2:00Speaker 1: to take a look if they think he's ready to
- 2:02Speaker 1: go in terms of letting it. Because the problem is
- 2:04Speaker 1: with this twenty one day window. Boy, they really should
- 2:06Speaker 1: change this rule because it sucks. If they don't activate
- 2:08Speaker 1: him to the fifty three he can practice. You assume
- 2:12Speaker 1: legals go to the playoffs, which is almost a near certainty.
- 2:14Speaker 1: It's not a lock like it seemed to be two
- 2:16Speaker 1: weeks ago. But you can't practice like Lampkin was never activated,
- 2:20Speaker 1: so he cannot practice until the spring until their offseason
- 2:24Speaker 1: program which starts in April, and it actually they have
- 2:30Speaker 1: very light workouts after the draft, but it's really in
- 2:32Speaker 1: May when they get started. But so Miles hitting somebody
- 2:36Speaker 1: to watch here. He's got a back injury. DeVante Smith.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Just to let people understand, he had chests and shoulder
- 2:43Speaker 1: injuries coming into the Week thirteen game against the Bears.
- 2:47Speaker 1: There was one play where it looked like he got
- 2:49Speaker 1: jacked up a little bit. He may have missed one play,
- 2:52Speaker 1: but he came back and it was fine. It was
- 2:54Speaker 1: very cold in that game though. We'll see if they
- 2:56Speaker 1: still list him on the injury report. Xavier Gibson with
- 2:58Speaker 1: that shoulder injury. Britain Covey is handling the punt returns
- 3:03Speaker 1: for now. We'll see if Gibson, who's still in the
- 3:04Speaker 1: fifty three, We'll see if he contributes the rest of
- 3:06Speaker 1: the season. Lane Johnson's out with the midfoot spray. Now
- 3:11Speaker 1: the reason why he's not been put on IR they
- 3:13Speaker 1: have no current plan for him to be on IRS.
- 3:15Speaker 1: They think he could return potentially before the end of
- 3:18Speaker 1: the regular season. That obviously would be great, but this
- 3:21Speaker 1: is a tough injury the list Frank spray. Now, it's
- 3:23Speaker 1: not the rupture. If it was the rupture, he'd be
- 3:25Speaker 1: out to the summer with this spray and it's a
- 3:28Speaker 1: week to week situation. And then once once he feels,
- 3:32Speaker 1: once Lance feels that he can practice, he's got to
- 3:34Speaker 1: be able to put that foot in the ground and
- 3:36Speaker 1: push off of it. He's never had this injury before,
- 3:39Speaker 1: as they understand it, so he's just got to show
- 3:42Speaker 1: that he could handle it. Jalen Carter vic Fangils asked
- 3:44Speaker 1: about it, and as we told folks who are avid
- 3:47Speaker 1: listeners to Inside the Birds, when Jalen Carter was drafted,
- 3:52Speaker 1: we were told by multiple teams he had a shoulder
- 3:53Speaker 1: issue that seems are concerned about. It was not going
- 3:55Speaker 1: to knock him down much, if at all. It was
- 3:57Speaker 1: the off the field character which was the concern. But
- 4:01Speaker 1: the shoulder thing keeps recurring. So you have to remember
- 4:05Speaker 1: he entered training camp on their initial injury report when
- 4:08Speaker 1: the Eagles put it out, so it's something that recurs.
- 4:11Speaker 1: He's been dealing with. He's Carteri's talked about He's been
- 4:14Speaker 1: on record talking about it. It's something to watch, isizo
- 4:18Speaker 1: Julari who's been on IRA since Week nine with a
- 4:19Speaker 1: hamsterring problem. We're not surprised as if he never plays
- 4:22Speaker 1: again for the Eagles. Why because josh ushe who's done
- 4:26Speaker 1: a good job. He can't go on the field anymore
- 4:28Speaker 1: because BG's back, Nolan Smith is back, so they don't
- 4:32Speaker 1: need they don't need another edge as a matter of fact,
- 4:35Speaker 1: as we've talked about for two years now, and we
- 4:38Speaker 1: could give you a little bit more insight, I think
- 4:40Speaker 1: we did recently, but we'll I'll explain here a little
- 4:42Speaker 1: bit more. Vic Fangio did this in twenty twelve doing
- 4:45Speaker 1: a n our Super Bowl run that they lost to
- 4:47Speaker 1: the Ravens. He does not believe in a deep rotation.
- 4:51Speaker 1: That's I know. Folks around the Niners then felt like
- 4:57Speaker 1: Vic and Harball should have been a little bit more
- 5:00Speaker 1: to play more players. Maybe they wouldn't have been so
- 5:03Speaker 1: worn down. There was a feeling around the team that
- 5:04Speaker 1: they were a little bit worn down on defense. But
- 5:06Speaker 1: is what Vic does. But the good thing is goes
- 5:09Speaker 1: BG's back, obviously, and all it's with his back. If
- 5:13Speaker 1: Vic feels the need to play more edges, he'll do that.
- 5:18Speaker 1: And then Marcus Apps he was designated for return this week.
- 5:22Speaker 1: He's been an ir R since Week nine. We expect
- 5:26Speaker 1: him to start if he's if he's ready to go.
- 5:28Speaker 1: If Vic Fangio thinks he's ready healthy, he's got he
- 5:32Speaker 1: should start over seeding Brown. He's just a better football player.
- 5:34Speaker 1: And we know appsys had a he said, the aco
- 5:37Speaker 1: injury last year. He's healthy from that. It's just a
- 5:42Speaker 1: matter of being healthy now. Drew mccoba is out with
- 5:46Speaker 1: the right ankle surgery, broken right ankle. The only question
- 5:48Speaker 1: for him is if the Eagles can make a deep
- 5:50Speaker 1: playoff rank Kenny return, We're looking into that. So the
- 5:53Speaker 1: players were keying on this week is Carter. It's not
- 5:58Speaker 1: a question of will he play, it's how do they
- 6:00Speaker 1: list them? How much can he practice? And then Marcus Apps.
- 6:05Speaker 1: That's actually a big one because Sidney Brown is really
- 6:07Speaker 1: a force safety and a special teamer. Hey, it's Jeff Mosher.
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- 8:28Speaker 1: And soone joke to me the other day, he's the
- 8:31Speaker 1: Kille Ringo of safeties. What does that mean? Ringo? The
- 8:35Speaker 1: Eagles clearly don't. It's really not the egos the fangio
- 8:37Speaker 1: does not want to play him. He just doesn't. He
- 8:40Speaker 1: sees what we told folks four years ago, three years ago,
- 8:43Speaker 1: excuse me, that he's basically a force safety. A fourth
- 8:46Speaker 1: corner is Ringo. We'll get this brown in a second.
- 8:50Speaker 1: And he's excellent special teams player. He's got really good
- 8:53Speaker 1: straight line, speedy can He's not flexible, as Greco Selt
- 8:57Speaker 1: told us, not only in our when he was drafted,
- 9:01Speaker 1: that Ringo had significant lower body stiffness. And this plays
- 9:04Speaker 1: into what Greg said. Greg said very plainly that Ringo
- 9:10Speaker 1: had trouble stopping and starting. And by the way, that's
- 9:13Speaker 1: been a little bit of an issue for DK Metcalf,
- 9:15Speaker 1: who's obviously tremendous football player, and that's why you don't
- 9:20Speaker 1: see a lot of short area throws because he has
- 9:22Speaker 1: trouble throttling down, as the scouting term. But so the
- 9:25Speaker 1: ones to watch this week are Carter and Apps and
- 9:29Speaker 1: if it's very minor miles hitting, let's see if he
- 9:33Speaker 1: gets activated or not, and if not, he'll be in
- 9:35Speaker 1: their offseason program. All right, Let's get to the Chargers
- 9:37Speaker 1: because they've got a lot of interesting stuff and we've
- 9:38Speaker 1: got more developments for them, so justin herb and everybody
- 9:41Speaker 1: knows by now he's got a broken left hand, that's
- 9:43Speaker 1: his non throng hand. He had surgery on Monday. He
- 9:45Speaker 1: wants to play. It went well. The Chargers haven't rolled
- 9:48Speaker 1: him out because it went like they thought it would.
- 9:51Speaker 1: So we're going to be watching this obviously. This is
- 9:54Speaker 1: a big deal and he's got to see. The thing
- 9:56Speaker 1: is he's got to be able to protect himself and
- 9:58Speaker 1: what happens if he gets thrown to the ground, if
- 10:01Speaker 1: he does get clear to play, is the contraption that
- 10:03Speaker 1: he wears is the Howard's casted would allow him to
- 10:07Speaker 1: put his hand on the ground and support himself. It's
- 10:09Speaker 1: a little tricky and he's got to be able to
- 10:11Speaker 1: throw and practice to show that he's he's able to
- 10:13Speaker 1: handle it. Trey Lance would go and undrafted free agent
- 10:17Speaker 1: quarterback aj gunn l Lay. He would be Ogun. Lay
- 10:23Speaker 1: would be the second quarterback. He would be the backup
- 10:28Speaker 1: to Lance if Herbert doesn't get clear down. The big
- 10:30Speaker 1: one is a Marion Hampton who we liked and I
- 10:33Speaker 1: know Greg whosall like we did here on inside the boards.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I like Hampton way more than Ashton Genty Hampton way
- 10:40Speaker 1: more explosive, but he's coming off a left ankle fracture.
- 10:44Speaker 1: He was put on Designated for return last week. He's
- 10:49Speaker 1: still in DFR, but he's been on IR since week six.
- 10:53Speaker 1: It's typically for a left ankle fracture, it's typically six
- 11:00Speaker 1: to eight weeks. That's almost normal, unless there is what
- 11:03Speaker 1: we call associated issues with the surgery, then it could
- 11:07Speaker 1: be longer. But this is in that six to eight
- 11:09Speaker 1: week window and we're now in the week eight. Kamanie Vidal,
- 11:13Speaker 1: who's done a great job. He's taken over to starter
- 11:16Speaker 1: Jared Patterson. I loved when he was with Washington, just
- 11:19Speaker 1: as a little bit of a change up. But Vanal's explosive,
- 11:22Speaker 1: like he's kind of surprised me with the amount of
- 11:24Speaker 1: vlume he's been able to handle. So they want to
- 11:27Speaker 1: see they want to see what Hampton gets done this week.
- 11:29Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of optimism around the club
- 11:32Speaker 1: that Hampton will be available this week, but he's got
- 11:33Speaker 1: to get through practice. Najie Harris out for the season.
- 11:36Speaker 1: He went on IR in week four with the torn
- 11:38Speaker 1: achilles Son Haskins, who went on IRT week nine with
- 11:43Speaker 1: a hamstring issue. He was DFR this week does an
- 11:47Speaker 1: aid for return. He was a fourth runner for the
- 11:50Speaker 1: Titans at twenty two. He is a pure power back.
- 11:52Speaker 1: He played for Harbaugh at Michigan. But the big one
- 11:56Speaker 1: is Hampton. And yes, they could be really stocked all
- 11:59Speaker 1: of a sudden. Where they were dry at running back.
- 12:01Speaker 1: In terms of depth, they could have a ton of
- 12:03Speaker 1: depth this week, depending on how practices go through Saturday.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Rashaun Slater. So let's get to the offensive line. This
- 12:07Speaker 1: is pretty this is the big one here, Rashaun Slater.
- 12:11Speaker 1: We know he's out for the season. Tours Pteller Tenant
- 12:13Speaker 1: in practice on week one, he went out on r
- 12:17Speaker 1: and week one he won't be back till the summer
- 12:19Speaker 1: or the spring. And what and he is their left tackle?
- 12:24Speaker 1: They've this is this is they're on there. Let's see one,
- 12:27Speaker 1: two three, fourth left tackle. They tried Trevor Penning, who
- 12:30Speaker 1: was a bust as a left tackle for the Saints.
- 12:32Speaker 1: He's played right tackle, he's played guard. Penning starred some games.
- 12:35Speaker 1: It wasn't good enough, Austin Deculus. He started some games,
- 12:40Speaker 1: so they went to Jamari Sailor. Sailor started last week,
- 12:44Speaker 1: played well against the Raiders. Uh Sailor played guard, left tackle,
- 12:50Speaker 1: and right tackle in Georgia. Yes, he knows a lot
- 12:52Speaker 1: of his you know, Silier is in his fourth year.
- 12:55Speaker 1: He obviously knows a lot of the Eagles Georgia guys,
- 12:57Speaker 1: so that's kind of interesting. We'll see how this works out.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Sailor will start this week most almost certainly. He did
- 13:03Speaker 1: well from what I understand, so uh, this will be
- 13:07Speaker 1: a little bit harder for him going against this front.
- 13:09Speaker 1: We're expecting the Eagles to bounce back because it wasn't
- 13:12Speaker 1: good for them. Uh. And we'll talk more about this
- 13:14Speaker 1: on the pregame show UH with greg O Sell this weekend.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Joeled out for the season right ankle surgery. Trey Pipkins,
- 13:21Speaker 1: who was a starting right tackle, then they moved him
- 13:25Speaker 1: to guard last year so he could play. He could
- 13:26Speaker 1: play guard or right tackle. He's he's fine as a
- 13:30Speaker 1: fill in. He's he's he's decent. But Sailor, I got
- 13:35Speaker 1: to see how he handles this. Another start at left
- 13:37Speaker 1: tackle and gets a better front. How will Fangio handle this?
- 13:42Speaker 1: They they blitzed last week, couldn't get home. The Bears
- 13:45Speaker 1: stoned him. Did a really good job. I know, kid
- 13:47Speaker 1: Wims did not play well with bad weather. But what
- 13:50Speaker 1: we're watching now is justin Herbert. That that's that's that's
- 13:54Speaker 1: the big one. In one A is a Marrion Hampton
- 13:58Speaker 1: and he's got choice in the pass game. Is out
- 14:01Speaker 1: of North Carolina explosive. They've missed him. We're gonna be
- 14:06Speaker 1: watching that. So we're gonna be watching. We're gonna be
- 14:08Speaker 1: watching practice this week.
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- 16:50Speaker 1: Ailen Carter and Marcus Steps for the Egos, Xavier Gibson
- 16:54Speaker 1: by Way with the Shoulder. Based on what happened with
- 16:57Speaker 1: them in that that bad fumble, I'd be surprised if
- 16:59Speaker 1: you got the job back whenever he's cleared over at Britain. Covey, who,
- 17:02Speaker 1: by the way, was a stud three years ago as
- 17:05Speaker 1: a punp returner. And then obviously we mentioned Hampton and Herbert,
- 17:09Speaker 1: so those are the oh and Trey Lance. By the way,
- 17:12Speaker 1: he's got I know he's raw and all that, but
- 17:14Speaker 1: he's got a big arm. I saw it up close
- 17:17Speaker 1: when I was at Nyers camp before he got traded
- 17:19Speaker 1: to Dallas. That would be interesting. He just doesn't have
- 17:22Speaker 1: a lot of experience. But and he's very wrong and
- 17:24Speaker 1: by the way, you would play him a lot differently
- 17:26Speaker 1: than you'd play Herbert obviously due to a lack of experience.
- 17:28Speaker 1: So that's it. That's your injury situations. Now. We're going
- 17:31Speaker 1: to update them during our pregame show because the game
- 17:35Speaker 1: is on Friday, excuse me, on Monday. We will probably
- 17:37Speaker 1: have an update on Monday morning at six am Eastern
- 17:41Speaker 1: on injuries and any lineup changes. All right, that's it
- 17:43Speaker 1: from here. We'll speak to you soon.