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Furness Show 12-9: Chris Crawford, Elizabeth Cantwell, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Chambers Bay Distillery. We're hanging out here today. Why this
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  Speaker 1: is a thank you. This is a thank you Alan
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  Speaker 1: and Jeff, and it's a listen. First of all, it's
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  Speaker 1: a small business craft distillery. They make the best I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you right now, the best bourbon that you will
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  Speaker 1: find anywhere in the Pacific Northwest. Big fan of the
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  Speaker 1: Dead Eyed Gin as well. It took them, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: four or five years before I could convince them to
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  Speaker 1: make gin, but they did. The Dead Eyed Gin is fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: So for those of you like gin, awesome, whether you
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  Speaker 1: go with the Greenhorn, the Strait, the Maderra or the
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  Speaker 1: Captain's Reserve, which we'll tell you about a little bit
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  Speaker 1: later on Good place to come. They have trivia on Tuesdays.
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  Speaker 1: But more importantly, listen, it's the holiday season and I
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  Speaker 1: know I'm gonna do some shopping before I leave here today.
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  Speaker 1: Grab a bottle of brown water, Gin vodka, the Ron vodka.
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  Speaker 2: You do like the brown Water?
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  Speaker 3: I like it all.
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  Speaker 1: It's all here. Ghost Dog Whiskey A good place to
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  Speaker 1: do some Christmas shopping. Come back, or if you're just
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  Speaker 1: shopping in this area, this Bridgeport area is butriche I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what they call this same. It's gorgeous over here.
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  Speaker 3: All kinds of.
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  Speaker 1: Shops come across the street, have a craft cocktail, relaxed
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  Speaker 1: for a second. They got some foods, some small bites
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  Speaker 1: as well, chicken tenders, friendship sliders, flatbreads, other things down here.
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  Speaker 1: So they got it all at Chambers made his story.
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  Speaker 1: I bring that up because of this. We do the
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  Speaker 1: Mary and Maple Valley Open every year at Drewiz Glenn.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, very soon we're going to tell you the
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  Speaker 1: date and announce everything.
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  Speaker 3: For next year.
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  Speaker 1: We're about ready to write the checks to all three
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  Speaker 1: charities from the beer sales and the golf tournament. Those
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  Speaker 1: are going to go out here in the next few
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  Speaker 1: days and we'll kind of make that announcement and then
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  Speaker 1: tell you when the golf tournament is next year.
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  Speaker 3: The last three or four years at.
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  Speaker 1: Least since we I think it's been when we go
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  Speaker 1: back twenty so, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, last
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  Speaker 1: four years since we went back to Druis. We missed
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  Speaker 1: the one year with COVID. We went one year big
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  Speaker 1: thanks to our friends over in Allen doing the tournament
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  Speaker 1: over there. But since we returned to Drewis, Glenn, Alan
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  Speaker 1: and Jeff bring the old whiskey wagon up there, Jess
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  Speaker 1: and Andrews.
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  Speaker 3: You guys saw it last year.
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  Speaker 4: It might have been, I'm there.
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  Speaker 1: You might have they We bring the old whiskey wagon,
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  Speaker 1: the Chambers Bay wagon up there, and they come by
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  Speaker 1: and they bring the wagon up and they donate, period
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  Speaker 1: and a story. You buy a charity cocktail, all the
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  Speaker 1: money goes to charities. We do the We call it
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  Speaker 1: the Viking, named after my good friend Jamie Mackenzie, who
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  Speaker 1: is a big part of our sponsorship through Prime Electric. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: the Viking is Cranberry and vodka, Cranberry sotovodka.
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  Speaker 2: They call that the Vikings.
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  Speaker 4: Well that's his nickname, and I call it the Skinny something.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's the Viking because the Viking helps us out
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  Speaker 1: of the tournament. That's his drink of choice.
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  Speaker 3: Give it that.
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  Speaker 1: So we give it to that and then we also
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  Speaker 1: we had a couple other cocktails and they donate everything
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  Speaker 1: and as a small business, that's a pretty massive expense
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  Speaker 1: for them. And so I want to come down here
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  Speaker 1: and support them. And I'm urging anybody in this area
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  Speaker 1: or anywhere if you like craft cocktails. If you like
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  Speaker 1: great great bourbon, great vodka, great gin, what have you.
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  Speaker 1: This is the place to come during the holiday season
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  Speaker 1: where he make it down here today or later on,
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  Speaker 1: come support these guys look forward as well. I think
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  Speaker 1: the total wine and more still, total whine and more,
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  Speaker 1: Alan do is that carea you find it? Where where
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  Speaker 1: can we find your beverages besides here? Total wine, total
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  Speaker 1: wine as well as for Chambers Bay. All right, so
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  Speaker 1: these guys are great. We'll tell you more about them
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  Speaker 1: a little bit later. We have a busy show coming
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  Speaker 1: up today. Doctor Elizabeth Cantwell, Washington State University President's going
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  Speaker 1: to join us coming up at one twenty. Where are
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  Speaker 1: we with college athletics? Not just with Wazoo's coaching search.
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  Speaker 1: We'll definitely get into that at athletic director search. But
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  Speaker 1: she comes from Utah State University. If you want to
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  Speaker 1: look at it this way, a couple of the smaller
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  Speaker 1: fish in today's college landscape. Where are we with all
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  Speaker 1: these things? Where are we with college athletics as a whole?
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  Speaker 1: But where are they at right now? We'll talk to her.
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  Speaker 1: We have not had a chance to talk to the
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  Speaker 1: new president of the school in the university system. Yet
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  Speaker 1: we'll do that coming up at one twenty. Do not
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  Speaker 1: miss that, whether you're a Cougar fan or not. If
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  Speaker 1: you could want to take a listen to that coming
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  Speaker 1: up here at one twenty today, John London, two o'clock
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  Speaker 1: talking all things NFL. As we get to that, we'll
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  Speaker 1: do a daily power play at one forty five four
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's the Chambers Bay Distillery text.
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  Speaker 1: Line today it's the Chambers Bay dis still read text line.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great idea, Anderson Hurst, Anderson Hurst, you are
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  Speaker 1: the smartest guy I've ever met. Alan Today is the
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  Speaker 1: So text in your thoughts, your comments, your questions, the
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  Speaker 3: All right, text we'll take those two. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We also have a gentleman here to stop by to
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  Speaker 1: say high for a second. We'll throw them on the air.
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  Speaker 1: We got a couple of minutes here, because why not.
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  Speaker 1: We should probably talk about the harry fordtrade. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: had a chance to do that yet. You ever heard
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  Speaker 1: the name Chris Crawford.
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  Speaker 5: Anybody Chris absolutely, I have not heard that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Skeeters here, Skeeter, well things, Skeeter are here. So
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  Speaker 1: he's here, Chris Crawford.
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  Speaker 3: Stop. Good to see a buddy.
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  Speaker 5: How to see him too, man, it's awesome little place
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  Speaker 5: that they had not he little. It's an awesome place
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  Speaker 5: and it's such a great uh great area. I think
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick up some Christmas presents when I'm on
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  Speaker 5: my way out. He hears to pick up some brown
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  Speaker 5: water for some family members.
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  Speaker 3: I love that absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, okay, gonna We're still buried with football this end
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  Speaker 1: of the year, and then you have a Saturday baseball trade. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: uh huh, what's going on? Sure, Harry Ford trade for
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  Speaker 1: Jose Ferrara. Yes, thoughts, So I was surprised. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there was so much talk about Harry Ford going for
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  Speaker 1: big time names at the deadline, and then you see
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  Speaker 1: him going for a left handed reliever in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of December. You don't clearly have a planet backup catcher.
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  Speaker 1: I will caution everybody, it's backup catcher.
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  Speaker 6: Guys.
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  Speaker 5: Calm down, calm down about that one.
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  Speaker 6: For sure.
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  Speaker 5: I do like the trade and part of the reason
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  Speaker 5: I like the trade is that Farrere is the type
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  Speaker 5: of guy the Mariners have done wonders with. He is
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  Speaker 5: a guy who generates. He throws a bowling ball, the
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  Speaker 5: ball just has so much sink. I believe he was
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  Speaker 5: in the ninety ninth percent tilent ground ball right. He
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  Speaker 5: throws hard. I bet you the Mariners get into that
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  Speaker 5: secondary stuff more because if you take a look at
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  Speaker 5: the splits, I believe hitters had like a one to
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  Speaker 5: fifty average and a much higher swinging miss rate than
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  Speaker 5: he did against the sinker. Now that's common because sinkers
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  Speaker 5: don't have nearly the same type of movement.
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  Speaker 3: I think he.
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  Speaker 5: Can really pitch, and I think he's going to be
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  Speaker 5: a really good high leverage guy. This is also a
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  Speaker 5: pretty strong basics that Harry Ford just wasn't that valuable.
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  Speaker 5: Like if Harry Ford, you can criticize Justin Hollander and
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  Speaker 5: Jerry Depoto all you want, if you could have gotten
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  Speaker 5: more for Harry Ford, you would have gotten more for Harry.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the key is Nick Chris, because I
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  Speaker 1: think initially people you know, like my son, for example,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell had Harry Ford had been pumped up
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  Speaker 1: so much. He's got a British accent sometimes, but he
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  Speaker 1: honestly they had pumped his tires.
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  Speaker 3: Up so much. Oh yeah, absolutely, What.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of prospect really was He's He was not a
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  Speaker 5: top fifty prospect. He was in the top one hundred.
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  Speaker 5: He was probably in that seventy five eighty range. And
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  Speaker 5: that's obviously incredibly subjective, right, like you know, one person's
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  Speaker 5: thirty five is another person sixty five, and so on
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  Speaker 5: and so forth. But he was a guy that people
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  Speaker 5: have real concerns about whether or not he's a good
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  Speaker 5: enough framer and receiver to be a catcher, and whether
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  Speaker 5: or not he's actually going to tap into that power.
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  Speaker 5: And he has a high floor because he is a
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  Speaker 5: solid receiver, well solid catcher, Like he's certainly athletic enough
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  Speaker 5: to stay behind the plate, and he has a good
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  Speaker 5: approach at the plate. But you can find guys like this,
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  Speaker 5: like this is not a special prospect whatsoever. He is
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  Speaker 5: a high floor guy. And when you're the Mariners and
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  Speaker 5: you have the best catcher in baseball, one of the
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  Speaker 5: top five players in baseball, it's a little easier to
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  Speaker 5: move a guy like this. Harry Ford is a guy
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  Speaker 5: that prospects lists liked a heck of a lot more
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  Speaker 5: than general managers, obviously, and that's what happens. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 5: by what they got in return. It one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 5: percent because you know, and there was a lot of
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  Speaker 5: talk about the Mariners refuse to move Harry Ford for
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  Speaker 5: On Duran, and that, you know, because Yon Duran is
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  Speaker 5: a lot better picture than Jose Ferrara and would have
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  Speaker 5: been a huge upgrade to what they have. And you
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  Speaker 5: can't help but wonder how much he helps in Game seven.
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  Speaker 5: Let's not think about that. If you are thinking about that,
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  Speaker 5: I know a good place to go have yourself with cocktail.
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  Speaker 5: But here's what I basically have found out or have
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  Speaker 5: been told. Yes, Harry Ford was part of the hang
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  Speaker 5: up with the Minnesota Twins. It wasn't Harry Ford for
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  Speaker 5: you on Durant and they just said they wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 5: It was Harry Ford and a really good prospect and
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  Speaker 5: another good prospect and probably worth looking at a player
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  Speaker 5: to be named later that was pretty solid. That's the
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  Speaker 5: reason that trade doesn't get done. The end of the
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  Speaker 5: I do I do. I don't think I think they
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  Speaker 5: are a better baseball team because of it, and uh,
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  Speaker 5: I would absolutely bring back Mitch Garver.
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  Speaker 6: I think that you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, I've heard the Morning show a certain guy is
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  Speaker 5: not a huge fan of bringing Mitch Garver back, and
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  Speaker 5: I respectfully disagree. I think that his familiarity with the
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  Speaker 5: staff is really important. I think he was more than
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  Speaker 5: competing against left handed pitchers. You know what you have here, right,
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  Speaker 5: Like if you're talking about like a one year, three
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  Speaker 5: million dollar deal something along those lines, Chris, not gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Be quick question for you. Sure, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people kind of take your postcast partner. Yes, it is
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  Speaker 4: thinking about kind of the future now, because Harry Ford
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  Speaker 4: was your biggest catcher prospect in a lot of people's eyes.
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  Speaker 4: But there's a lot of people that believe Luke Stevenson
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  Speaker 4: was actually a bigger prospect or a more has a
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  Speaker 4: higher ceiling moving forward. Are you one of those people?
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  Speaker 5: I am so glad you asked that that's the top
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  Speaker 5: catching that is their top catching prospect. And here's a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of a hot take. I think he was
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  Speaker 5: a better prospect than Harry Ford. It okay, and that
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  Speaker 5: is he was at North Carolina. He was the thirty
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  Speaker 5: fifth pack right around those lines. He's a better offensive
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  Speaker 5: prospect North Carolina. Yeah, so didn't have as good of
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  Speaker 5: a sophomore season as his robust fresh mean year. But
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  Speaker 5: a guy who can hit, a guy that they really
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  Speaker 5: liked behind the plate, a guy who I could see
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  Speaker 5: advancing pretty quickly when count Rawling needs to make that move.
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  Speaker 5: Then yeah, but yeah, I think Luke Stevenson was their
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  Speaker 5: best catching prospect.
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  Speaker 1: All right, good stuf, Chris could see Anyboddy, Great to
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  Speaker 1: see you. Uh nice, nice, try to take over with postcast.
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  Speaker 3: But that's a good question.
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  Speaker 1: All right, all right, that was actually actually good. I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna ask, right, No, I did not knowing, Lucy was.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for checking your text.
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  Speaker 6: Anders.
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  Speaker 3: I really appreciate it that you guys retreat. All right.
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  Speaker 1: That's Chris Crawford, that's Andrews, I mean, and jess As
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  Speaker 1: they are somewhere too.
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  Speaker 3: It's amas great. Ye well listen.
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  Speaker 1: President Elizabeth Cantwell from Watchington University joined us.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: He infnest with you and again we're at Chambers Bay
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  Speaker 1: Distillery hanging out today. Big thank you to Alan and
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  Speaker 1: Jeff for all of their support for the Mayor of
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  Speaker 1: Maple Valley Open which helped so many great causes Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Morris Foundation, Avery Huff and DIAPG and of course Oldlinsky's
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  Speaker 1: Hope as well more on Chambers Bay Distillery. Great place
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  Speaker 1: to shop for the holidays, by the way, in a moment,
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  Speaker 1: but really happy right now to be joined on the
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  Speaker 1: Beacon Plumbing Hotline by the new president at Washington State University,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Elizabeth Betsy Cantwell joined us right now, Doctor Cantwell,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it today.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, my pleasure. I'm happy to talk with you and.
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  Speaker 1: Our listeners and all the Cougar fans over here on
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  Speaker 1: the west side of the state, all the Washington State supporters,
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  Speaker 1: the lums and so forth. Even though Chambers Bay is
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  Speaker 1: owned by a couple of Huskies, but you know what,
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  Speaker 1: these are good guys. They're good Huskies over here, so
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  Speaker 1: we like these guys let's get into where we are
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  Speaker 1: with everything going on. It's been a tumultuous time for
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  Speaker 1: Washington State athletics and I think CAMP as a whole,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you've come in there with some ideas
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  Speaker 1: to change things. You've done that in French administration building,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously a sports radio show, we want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about athletics first of all. Jimmy Rodgers leaving, was that
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  Speaker 1: a surprise and what is your reaction here a few
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  Speaker 1: days later?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a surprise, but a few days later,
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  Speaker 9: let me say, it's not the kind of thing that
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  Speaker 9: we It is the kind of thing that we see
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  Speaker 9: all over the place right now in college athletics. As
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  Speaker 9: I'm sure everybody has noticed, there's Rubik's cubes of change
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  Speaker 9: going on everywhere. The difference for us at WSU and
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  Speaker 9: a lot of what else is going on there is
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  Speaker 9: that we're part of a startup conference as well. So
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  Speaker 9: the old PAC twelve is the old PAC twelve. The
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  Speaker 9: new PAC twelve is a startup and there is no
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  Speaker 9: other startup conference out there. So we have all the
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  Speaker 9: interesting parts of that and all the change parts of
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  Speaker 9: that as well. Well.
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  Speaker 1: And you were, for people don't know you were part
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  Speaker 1: of that because you were at Utah State Universe before
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  Speaker 1: coming to Washington State, and so you you obviously are
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  Speaker 1: bullish on the conference before I get to us, specifically
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  Speaker 1: when you were at Utah State leaving the Mountain West
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  Speaker 1: and coming to this conference and now part of one
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  Speaker 1: of the two I guess anchor tenants of the old
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  Speaker 1: the old school guys with WAZU in Oregon State. What
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  Speaker 1: is it about the new PAC twelve, doctor Campwell, that
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  Speaker 1: had you excited even when you were in your previous job.
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  Speaker 9: So in my previous job, what we recognized about the
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  Speaker 9: PAC twelve going forward was yes, it is going to
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  Speaker 9: be new, but it carries with this amazing brand that
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  Speaker 9: will draw I mean, if you think about it from
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  Speaker 9: a media perspective, it's going to draw a lot of
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  Speaker 9: interest and attention. And we can use that even if
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  Speaker 9: we are at the old PAC twelve. We will galvanize
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  Speaker 9: the folks that come and start to pay attention to
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  Speaker 9: us when the conference kicks off in June of twenty
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  Speaker 9: twenty six, and then we've got you know, the Potato Bowl.
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  Speaker 9: We are playing against Utah State University and for all
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  Speaker 9: the coves out there come and support our young men
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  Speaker 9: have worked so hard to get your It's gonna be
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  Speaker 9: a great game.
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  Speaker 3: Is that the Doctor campt Will Bowl? Is that what
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  Speaker 3: that is?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a I just think that's your old
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  Speaker 1: school or your new school going at it, and a
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  Speaker 1: preview of what's to come in the in the new
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  Speaker 1: Pac twelve.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the cool part. It's a preview of what's
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  Speaker 9: to come. And you will see that both of these
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  Speaker 9: teams are scrappy, but also do not underestimate how good
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  Speaker 9: they are.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things and every and I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: very general here, but I do believe this is the case.
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  Speaker 1: I have heard so many presidents school presidents over the
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  Speaker 1: course of the last ten twelve years say the fault
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  Speaker 1: and athletic directors will say the same thing, but presidents,
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  Speaker 1: I know Doctor Floyd said this. I've heard other school
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  Speaker 1: presidents say it. That athletics are the front door to
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  Speaker 1: a university. And I know that one of your I
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  Speaker 1: know one of your goals is to get enrollment up
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  Speaker 1: at Washington State, and I think it was never higher
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  Speaker 1: than it was during some of the Mike Leach years.
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  Speaker 1: I know when I went there it was good, and
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  Speaker 1: then even especially when Mike Price was going to the Rose Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: When the jenna is we're going to tournaments and so forth,
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  Speaker 1: that helps open the door. Gonzaga is the best example
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I can think of when I was coming out I'm
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: old doctor Camptwell, Gonzaga was a nothing burger when I
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: was coming out of high school and I was a
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Catholic kid in Seattle. Gonzaga is now a thing. And
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's because of Mark Few and basketball. How
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: important are athletics to you and Washington State University? And
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I guess that also includes the question of how much
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: are we willing to invest?
• 15:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so let's back off of the investment question for
• 15:28
  Speaker 9: a moment, because investment means everything from I spend sixty
• 15:32
  Speaker 9: percent of my personal time paying attention to and participating
• 15:36
  Speaker 9: in all of our developments around athletics. Why you know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 9: the old phrase was the front door. The new thinking,
• 15:43
  Speaker 9: or at least my new thinking, is that they're every
• 15:46
  Speaker 9: vector of change is coming for Higher ed at the moment.
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: What athletics represents to us is a way to learn
• 15:51
  Speaker 9: about how to be part of a change management system
• 15:56
  Speaker 9: that puts us in the forefront. And yes, athletics are
• 15:59
  Speaker 9: the doorway through which many people who never have a
• 16:02
  Speaker 9: chance to come to college still see college. It attracts,
• 16:06
  Speaker 9: It is the place where we get to feel like
• 16:09
  Speaker 9: we are all in this together. It is and really
• 16:13
  Speaker 9: that is what public higher education service institutions like ours
• 16:17
  Speaker 9: were built for, is to be part of communities, to
• 16:21
  Speaker 9: represent what everybody can see themselves in. Athletics is our
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: best example of that, and going forward, we will definitely,
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: even in the face of being a startup and seeing
• 16:32
  Speaker 9: all of the change with nil and whatever form of
• 16:35
  Speaker 9: conference realignment happens at some point in the future, that
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: will remain. And so if you drive right down to yes,
• 16:42
  Speaker 9: people will want to come to us and enroll with us.
• 16:45
  Speaker 9: Whether they are whether there are young students who want
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: to come and live in dorms and have that in
• 16:50
  Speaker 9: person experience, or whether they are people who are in
• 16:52
  Speaker 9: their forties or fifties and it's time to go get
• 16:54
  Speaker 9: something different. They will come to us because of athletics
• 16:58
  Speaker 9: as much as anything else.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Doctor Elizabeth Cantwell, Washington State University President, joining us, and
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I always like to mention Bill Mousey did a great
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: job of this back in the day. Washing State University,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the state of Washington School the system with campuses all
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: across the state, from Pullman to Spokane, to Tri Cities
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: to Everett, down to Vancouver as well. And so you've
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: got a lot going on, and I want to clarify
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: one thing. I just want to make sure. Did you
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: say you spend sixty percent of your time on athletics, Well.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: In this past week, indeed I have. Indeed I have,
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: But you know I do. It is there is so
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: much change going on in athletics, and I do pay attention.
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: It's one of the criteria that you know, everybody in
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: our athletics program knows that the president pays attention. I'm
• 17:42
  Speaker 9: not in the knickers of the work that they're doing.
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: I'm not telling people what to do. But going forward,
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: any coach that we have, any athletics leadership that we have,
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: knows that they will not only have my backing, but
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: they'll be talking to me on a really regular basis.
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: That does take time, and I'm fully prepared to commit
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: that time.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Doctor Campwell, it comes first, chicken or egg in other words,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: athletic director of football coach. I'm assuming football coach first,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: or what's the priority, rightball coach?
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah? Okay, yeah, and you know there's some drivers. You
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: never know exactly what's going to happen. And I will
• 18:15
  Speaker 9: just say we are, you know, talking to a number
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: of people. But that said, it's really early stages. And
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: do not ask me about who, but but it's the
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: football coach is going to come first. And in this moment,
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: you know, we're seeing a change in in athletics that says,
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: what's the structure and how do we drive our athletics
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: program that you know lived in the days of the
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: Pac twelve and large money and we now have to
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: come It's not small money, but it is different and
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: it really defines what a startup is. A startup has
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: to work with what they've got. Startups are, you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: figure out how to get it done. And that is
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: the ethos and mentality. And it does drive to how
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: much money we have are we willing to invest? We
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: are investing right and left, but we don't have the
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: same I mean, it's just palpable. We don't have the
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: same amount of actual money coming in the door from
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: media rights deals for the conference. I'm fine with that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: I came out of that. That's with Utah State. We
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: did great things at Utah state, it's a fabulous school,
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: gets a lot done, and so will we at WSU.
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: Do I have a moment just to sort of give
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: I think maybe my sound bites for what we're looking
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: for as a coach.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: It's you, it's you, go ahead, The floor is yours
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: go ahead?
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, because I have just a minute left. And you
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: know this really drives from my perspective that we are
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: in a startup era, so we need a builder who
• 19:40
  Speaker 9: has that you know, fire in the belly for what
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: that means to be in a startup era program. With
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: this new conference, you know, everybody's got to be at
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: some level able to manage talent and culture and strategy
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: in this new era. But really having nil and port fluency,
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: I call it. That's super important to us right now,
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: in this time when the portal has to be looked
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: at not as an impediment but a strategic tool. We
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: definitely need someone who's got some demonstrated you know, a
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: success let's call it in this contemporary college football game,
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: which is you know, between now and the next time
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: everything goes up in the air with media, ride deals
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: and conferences change again. It is it is went of
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: really driving culture, driving with nil and portal as tools,
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: not as impediments, and really getting the absolute most out
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: of the incredible young men who come to us to
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: serve us as student athletes.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I know you got to go.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I got one final question real quick, and I think
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it is important for people on our side of the state,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: on the west side of the state. In Seattle, where
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: frankly the majority of Washington State University of lums live,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: we hear all.
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: The priority everybody lives.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: So yes, as far as nil and donations here, I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: hear often doctor cantwell, well we don't have the whales,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: we don't have this. We don't I always hear the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: we don't have thing. There's two things that jump out
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: with that. One is I think you know, and I'm
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: sure you're looking for someone who's a great fundraiser as
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: an athletic director. I think that I think we all
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: agree that's the priority to find that there is money
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: on this side of the state, but there's also money
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: outside of the state. When people say, well, we just
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: don't have the financial wherewithal or the backing, whether it's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you know, corporate executives at one of the Fortune five
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: hundred companies here or again out of state. I know
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the Texas Tech for example, their biggest donor isn't even
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: in Texas right now, So like, how do you find someone?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: How do we find those people to get to the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: point of NIL and get to the point where you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and the and the new athletic director and the football
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: coach feel like, hey, we've got sufficient funding for who
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and what we are. Can that happen? You believe that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: can happen.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: I do believe that can happen. You are asking all
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: the right questions. We are absolutely driving down every one
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: of those pathways and to those people out there, and
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: there are many, and I understand it. Who go You know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: I just don't like NIL. It feels inchy compared to
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: the way things used to be done in the past.
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: My answer is it's here standalone. We're not going to
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: fight it. We're going to use it. We're going to
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: make it a tool that we use to our advantage.
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: And that is the moment that we are in. Because
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: NIL leads to healthy football, leads to healthy athletics, leads
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: to a healthy university. They are inextricably linked right now today,
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: and that's the bandwagon to get on. You are absolutely
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: right we have there is wells both in the WSU
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: system of alumni as well as people who look at
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: the state of Washington and go those guys deserve at
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: least two highly viable competitive football programs as we move
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: into the new era.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: If I can squeeze one more quick one in here,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: because people ask me this, I said they were going
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to have you on today, and this was something that
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: came up a lot of folks. Cougar football Saturdays are
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: special things. I'll just tell you this. My three quarters
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of my family, my wife and I went to Wazoo.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: We met there. We've been married for thirty two years.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: My daughter is in College of Education grad and is
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: her seventh year of teaching. School on this side of
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the state. Were diehard coops. Yeah, and my son's a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Whitworth guy, but that's okay. He played football up there,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: but we love him anyway. But we're all Koogs. Cougar
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: football Saturdays. I've heard a lot of negative things about
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the experience this past year or two, whether it be
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: concessions entry, the game day experience. I know you witness
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it for the I went to one game this year.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I thought it was I'll just be honest with you,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: just okay, felt kind of weak to be honest with you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: That has to be better, right and when what can
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you tell fans who maybe didn't have a great experience
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: last year or two.
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: So we were on board with that, and I would
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: say the last few home games that I've been to,
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: the every game, the fan experience is improving. The things
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: I'll point to for next year is we have now
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: got the positioning with funding to make sure that we
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: have the new scoreboard and new inside the stadium experiences.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: We've got alcohol in the stands, We've got a whole
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: plethora of things happening right outside the stadium. Keep an
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: eye on us. It is getting better and better and
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: better every game.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Well, listen in doctor Cantwell, we trust as Cougar's I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: love the fact that not just athletics, but also trying
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to raise admissions and get more people back over to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: what is the best college experience I can ever think of?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Is one of your priorities, and I think it's We
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: love what we're seeing so far from you. Welcome to Washington.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Washington State University. When you're on the West side,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: sometime when you're over here, on the west side of
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the state, and I know you're all over the place
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: all the schools.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Please stop by.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: We'd love to have you in studio for a conversation,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and so we'll try to make that happen in the meantime.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Go koogs, and thanks for joining us.
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: Oh Kobs, there you go.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you doctor Elizabeth Cantwell joining us here on the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Beacon Plumbing hotline. And we really appreciate her joining us today.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: That was that was awesome. I got a chance to
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: catch up with her a little bit earlier today. I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: just Andrews, I'm gonna throw this to you real quick,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: all right, because Jess and I are we're gonna be biased.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I like what I hear from her. I like her attitude.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I just look at her resume. I think she gets
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: today's college athletics. And I'm not talking from even just
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: from a wazoo perspective. I think she gets today's college
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: athletics landscape. Anything jump out at you, Andrew.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it's it's a balance for me for
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: someone in her role to be aware of the situation
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: that you're in in comparison to the rest of the landscape,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: but also know that you need to push the boundary
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: a little bit. And I think she has both of
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: those things. And the one thing that you understand, understand
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: who you are exactly exactly.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: And not just you know, complain about it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Right, right, and you want to go back to where
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: you were twenty or the world that was twenty years
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: ago or whatever.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of college football fans that want that,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: which you know, I don't hate, but like, you can't
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: do that as an administer, right, doesn't work. But also
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: pushing the boundary, like you need to kind of make
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: sure that you're catching up to the rest of the
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: world in that aspect. And one thing that really stood
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: out to me that surprised me is the fact that
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: she wants to hire a football coach before an athletic director,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: which is I don't want to want to say backwards,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: but I think a person would normally kind of walk
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: up saying, you know, you'd want your athletic director to
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: hire the football coach, but I think just in terms
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: of the urgency, it seems like it's the other way around.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting dynamic because your athletic director is usually
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in charge of the entire athletic department, including the football coach.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: In this case, whoever gets hired as a football coach
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: because of that, right, it's going to say, well, yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that's cool. Can't well hire me?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, doctor, can'twell hired me? Not you, right?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: But that's also good because the buck stops there at
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the very top at French out of the upper campus.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I like what you said though. I think that's true
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and thought of it. Those terms you can take in
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: today's call landscape, and I just I sometimes Bristol with
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the have and the have not comment because I think, really,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, there's a couple halves and
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: everyone else is I have not notre dame, your have
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: not today?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I know you well.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: They choose not, but they're also a have not because
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: they got bypassed for the ACC team that wasn't even
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the ACC championship game, So your have not. There are
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: very few halves. There's always a bigger fish with very
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: few exceptions. And so I look, I look at these
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm just kind of like, man, understand where you are,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and Andergy was well said, understand who and where you are,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Understand the landscape, and do something about it. Think outside
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the box, and I think that's what you have to do.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: You're right, all of us, ges you're with me. I'm
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: sure I'd like to go back twenty years in time,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: be in the old packed. I don't even want the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: damn Pac twelve. Screw you Utah and Colorado.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Utah, and I was.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: In Utah and I and I would have loved to
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: had Utah in the Pack ten. Make it to Pack eleven.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I don't need. But I look back in retrospect, you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the biggest mistake that was made was taking Colorado over
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: b y U.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, and then.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: There were a lot of really big mistakes. There were
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of big mistakes. At the near the top
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of the list of big mistakes was that b YU
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: not getting in because why was it b WHYU not
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: in because they're not a research institution? Shut up like
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: stop it. And then the other part, obviously was the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: revenue split between UCL and u USC and they wanted
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to get more, which, by the way, when if the
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Big ten does what they want to do, which maybe
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: they will, maybe they won't, there's gonna be the tier system,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and that tier system will be Penn State Michigan, Ohio
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: State one second tier Ohio State or I'm sorry USC
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and Oregon and then move on. All right, good stuff.
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• 30:02
  Speaker 3: One of these days called more than one goal in
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the game for one of the one.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I knew it would be a low event game last
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: night for one finals uh.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: McDonald one against the Kings too.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yikes, yeah, yikes. Grooby was great last night. He was
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just happy. Phil Grubert is pretty
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: good guy and I'm happy for him. He was so
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: not good last year and this year he has really been.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: He's been really good. He's been outstanding. Yeah, he looks
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: calm in the net, looks confident in the net. Good
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: for Germany because he's playing for them in the Olympics ice. Yeah,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: but he's been. He was great last night, gave them
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a chance to win. They fall four to one. He
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: only gave up two goals. The other two were empty netters.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: But it's a it's a tough start. Here's the positive.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Before we get to the negative.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Uh, they did score a power play goal last night
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: on a team in Minnesota that had not given up
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a power play goal in nine straight games games. Think
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: about that, nine straight games. They had not given up
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a power play goal. Seattle had also given up a
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: power play in seven of the previous eight opportunities with
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the opposition. I've never seen that at any level of hockey.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Like the power the penalicule was awful. PK was perfect
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: last night three for three. Yep, power play scored a goal.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: That was good. What was bad they lost again and
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the offense was non existent for the most part. So
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: after the game, some pointed words you'll hear first from
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the captain, Jordan Ebley and then hit coach Lane Lambert.
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  Speaker 4: We need to find a little bit better from everybody.
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  Speaker 11: You know, you can say we're working hard, competing, but
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  Speaker 11: I just think that, you know, we need to find
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  Speaker 11: a little bit more from every single guy. I think
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: that comes down and I've said this before, I think
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: that the line between winning and losing is so thin.
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  Speaker 11: You feel like, I mean, obviously we've lost six to
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: row now, and you know, you feel like you're it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: not great, like you don't feel good, and I think
• 31:54
  Speaker 11: you have to realize that, you know, a little bit
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: here puts you over that edge and you start winning again.
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  Speaker 11: But yeah, I mean we got to find a way.
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  Speaker 4: Jordan just told us that he thinks we need a
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  Speaker 4: little bit and you guys need a little bit more
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  Speaker 4: from everybody.
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  Speaker 9: How do you feel about that take on it?
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: And also how do you think the team played tonight?
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  Speaker 12: I thought we started the game slowly, which you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: when you've lost four in a row and I'm you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: I haven't won a game in five, that's disappointing to me.
• 32:23
  Speaker 12: I thought our goaltender was outstanding tonight. Gave us a
• 32:26
  Speaker 12: chance to win. I would agree with his assessment that
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: we need more from everybody. You know, we we have
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: to have everybody playing well and we just can't afford
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: to have any passengers. And I didn't think I didn't
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: think everyone brought their best tonight.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: William Lamb brought some point in words as well as
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a captain Jordan Eberley, who did score sales only goal
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: last night. And I have no complaints about the play
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: of Everly this year, no complaints about the play of
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Matty Veneers this year.
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  Speaker 3: Mon tour done. By the way, did you see the
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: check last Jess? Were you? Were you in the Tunnel
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Club when Vince Dunn had his hit? Yep, yeah, I
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: was right there.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why everyone's up in arms.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It was a clean hit, clean hit well because we
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I booed different world. We live in a different world.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: But it was shoulder to shoulder and it was one
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of the best body checks you'll see that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I had my say at the glass.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you did. Did you slap it nice and hard?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Slap the glass? Get after it?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I was that aggressive because I feel like I'm too
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: aggressive sometimes.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask the I'm gonna ask
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the part time sometimes fill in pre and post game
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: host of the Crack and Audio Network. Who is that
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Anderson Hurst? I think you're doing a game next Monday, right, No? Two,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: two weeks in two weeks? Twenty second, yes, twenty second, Yes,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: when Mikey's down in LA. Yeah, since I don't want
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to say it, who the name? One, two or three? Passengers?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And by the way, that's where of the great that's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: one of the great terms in sports. Hockey uses it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't hear another sports. You're just a passenger right now.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: And that, by the way, you're doing nothing exactly. That
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: means you're like you're along for the ride, you're not
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: adding anything to it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: It feels free to use that in your daily life
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: with a co worker. Yeah, you're just a passenger. You're
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: not carrying your weight, You're doing nothing.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Really, it's a total just shot across me.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Give me a passenger or two, and.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: An easy one would be Mason Marchmant number twenty seven.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I think he's that was their big off season acquisition
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: and he has not added much to this team. A
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: passenger would be a perfect way to describe him, I'd
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: say Jamie Alexias another one of those. I haven't been
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: super impressed with Elie Tolvin, to be honest, those have
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: been kind of the three that I'm looking at.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I would not disagree. All right, use that
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: in your daily vernacular. Now, you're a passsenger. Just just
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: walk by somebody in the office and go, you're just
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: an absolute passager.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Oh god, there's so many.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: There's so many. I say, that's my husband.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: You're actually my wife would probably say the same thing.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And you're just a passenger in this household. Right now,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: let's say it to John Lund. John Lund is a passenger.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: He'll join us talking all things NFL.
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  Speaker 8: Then, now from the Star Rentals Sports desk, your ninety
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  Speaker 3: Today, let's go huh, that's surrounded by a lot of huskies.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, I'll tell you that, hikes, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what we've got Daniel Jones going to the Colts
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to John Lund right now. Let's get to it.
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  Speaker 8: Come on, Welcome to Ian's weekly visit with John Lund Unleashed.
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: He's a Bay Area media icon who's known Ian for
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: over twenty five years. But don't let their age change
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  Speaker 8: your opinion of them. John takes you through the Bay Area,
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  Speaker 8: ND the NFC West and dukes it out with the
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  Speaker 8: inn Over, the Niners and the Hawks.
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  Speaker 4: So let's unleash it now with John n Here.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Are we waiting on lunch still? I just texted him
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  Speaker 3: he should be there?
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  Speaker 4: Got him?
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, buddy? How are you.
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  Speaker 10: You there?
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  Speaker 3: Jack?
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  Speaker 12: What to?
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  Speaker 4: Of course?
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  Speaker 10: I'm here? What do you mean to my here?
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: Are you there?
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: You just sent me a picture of you drinking. You
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: don't really know.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I did not send you a picture of me drinking.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I sent you a picture of where I'm at.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, let me get this straight. I've known you for
• 36:29
  Speaker 10: a long time. You're in a bar, and I know
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: there's bottles of liquor there, So are you telling me
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: you're not drinking?
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Let me let me clarify where I'm at. I wouldn't
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't call this a bar. I think it's more
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: of a tasting.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Room, right, wonderful. Yeah, it's more of a taste yeah.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's Chambers being still rey Craft Distillery.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: They it's so nice and I should reset while we're
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: here today.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: They support the golf tournament, the Marry Maple Valley Open. Uh.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Every year they have a thing you'll like this. I'll
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: send you a picture of this when we're done, because
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I can't multitask, but i'll see you a picture when
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: i've done.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: That little thing called their Whiskey Wagon.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: It's a trailer and it looks like an old school
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: kind of back you know, like from the old West
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: wagon and it's a traveling bar. And so they bring
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that up. So they bring that up to our golf
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: tournament every year and they donate everything. Vodka, Ghost Dog Whiskey,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: their top end whiskey is they donate everything, and you
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: buy a cocktail. It's a charity cocktail and all the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: money goes to our charities, Whinskey's Hope, Every Huffman, DPG
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Foundation and Jordan Moore Foundation. So we come down here.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I force myself to come down here and do a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: two hour show to thank them every December and encourage people.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: If you're buying some spirits for the holidays as a gift,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: there's no better place to come than Chambers Beta Stillery.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: But I do think, in all seriousness, I thank these
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  Speaker 1: guys immenseally because what they do for our golf tournament
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: is second to none. We couldn't do what we do
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  Speaker 1: and raise money without these guys, So I thank them
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  Speaker 1: a lot, that's all.
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: I don't want to get off the track too much.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: And the happy hour I'll start at three o'clock officially.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Right I'm drinking water. I've got water into like a
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Moscow mule cup right now. You think, what kind of
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: tease is that?
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: You do not have water in there? But whatever, you know,
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: whatever the bosses are listening or something whatever, like they
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  Speaker 10: don't even believe that.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: But first of all, I always thought.
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: That, you know, talking sports where a living was kind
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: of cheating. But I got distillery. I mean, come on,
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: I'd love to I drive that wagon you're talking about
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: for free.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: My god, well you know what alf.
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: The wagon constantly? But man, that is that's awesome.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Alan the owner is sitting right here.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I'll tell him. One says he'll drive that thing for free.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: He'll drive that gonna say R give a Yeah, he'll drive.
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  Speaker 3: Up here from from Let's let's go.
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  Speaker 10: Awesome.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's if you if you like good good bourbon
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: like or good gin I do, okay, then this is
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: this is your place. I'm not a Vodky guy. I'm
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: told the ron vodka, Sea Salt and fused hangs out
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: over Chambers Bay, literally in the barrel. I heard that
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  Speaker 1: as fan murf.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: Yes, a couple of blue cheese olives in there. Come on,
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: you gotta be kidding me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they got wonderful. Hey, have you ever done trivia?
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: You ever done the tribe anything? They have trivia that's
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: like a that's like a thing here like trivia.
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: It depends on the trivia. I'm not a Jeopardy guy.
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: I'm not really you know that kind of stuff. You
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: do a little sports. We could do that, but you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: like Jeopardy, I said, there, like kidding me.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I can't do that stuff. Yeah.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: We have my buddy Aaron Levine, who's our Fox thirteen.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: He used to work with them over Fox thirteen, is
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: our sports anchor here. He just was on Jeopardy. But
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: what three weeks ago and or something like that, three
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: four weeks ago and like did well, like he won
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: three days in a row. But he's a Stanford guy. Like, yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: That's so funny you say that. A guy who was
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: a beat writer for the San Francisco Giants. His name
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: is Andrew Baggerley. He won like ten times in a row.
• 39:51
  Speaker 10: Like sports guys, no other stuff that those those nerds,
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: they don't know any sports. That's one of the funniest
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: things ever when they do sports categories, it's amazing anything.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: We do have a group of sports guys. Bob Candoa
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Bob Condona is a Seahawks beat writer for The Times.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Uh and our old producer Kevin Shockey and Alex Kids.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: A bunch of guys, sports guys around town. They they
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: do they do that. They do the trivia thing every week.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: And I went with them one time because they were
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in the Maple Valley. Hey, come by and see this.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: We're for Ellis. This place for Ellis. I'm like, yeah,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: come by. I sat there with these guys. I didn't
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: know one answer. Literally, I felt like the dumbest guy
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: in the world. So all right, John, He's talking all
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: things NFL. We get to all things NFL to go. Hey,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: how about Daniel Jones coming out of retirement to play
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: for the Colts. Philip, sorry, Daniel Joses.
• 40:42
  Speaker 10: Philip Rivers has kids that are as old as players
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: on the Colts. They were saying, he's a grandpa.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: He's a grandpa.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: He's forty, he's a grandpa.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: Yes, and he's got kids that are older than players
• 40:56
  Speaker 10: on the Colts right now. And it just so happens, like,
• 41:00
  Speaker 10: you know, the Seahawks play the Colts, the Niners in
• 41:02
  Speaker 10: two weeks play the Colts. I mean, you know, you
• 41:04
  Speaker 10: look at the schedule and it looks kind of daunting,
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: and one of the reasons why the Niners are going
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: to be able.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: To hang around.
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: They play year old Buddy cam Word this weekend. The
• 41:10
  Speaker 10: Titans stink, and then they play I don't know how
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: much Rivers is going to play this weekend, but he's
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: going to probably play against the forty nine ers because
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: what they have stinks, So all of a sudden, it's
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: a forty four year old against the Niners. And then
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: they play the Bears, who are gonna fall in their face,
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: I believe, And then it comes down to the Seahawks
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: and the forty nine ers. I mean that's you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 10: everybody wonders how the Niners are going to stay in
• 41:28
  Speaker 10: this thing. Well they've got the Titans, the Colts, what
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: used to be the Bears, and then it comes down
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: to that last game.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Well I think part of it, too, John, is that
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I look at this thing. We talked about this earlier,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the lack of quality backup quarterbacks or maybe just quarterbacks
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: as a hole in the NFL. Yeah, it's it's mind boggling,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Like it really is when you think about it. You
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: look around, you know, football and every year in college. Now,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: this is an interesting year because I know you've probably
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: talked about this with your stuff. This year in college football.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: All these guys are supposed to be generational quarterbacks coming
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: out of college. They aren't that, right, Kate Klubnick remember him?
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, arch is gonna have to arch Is
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: gonna have to stay in school for another year.
• 42:12
  Speaker 10: The only guy who I mean, Mendoza, looks like he's
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: a franchise quarterback. The part the problem right now is
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: like you go up to Oregon to look at their kid,
• 42:20
  Speaker 10: I'm not I'm not drafting any more of these kids
• 42:22
  Speaker 10: it's on their first year, or Simpson the kid from Alabama,
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: or any of these guys, these first year starters, you
• 42:28
  Speaker 10: got to put them back in the oven.
• 42:29
  Speaker 13: Man.
• 42:29
  Speaker 10: They've they've got to play more. And because you see
• 42:32
  Speaker 10: this all the time, I mean, i mean, look where
• 42:34
  Speaker 10: you are with Donald. I mean, look, I know we're
• 42:36
  Speaker 10: going to talk about Donald, but you know it took
• 42:38
  Speaker 10: him getting righted by Kyle Shanahan, the magic hand of
• 42:41
  Speaker 10: the great Kyle Shanahan, to to kind of get his
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: career back on track. I mean, he goes to New
• 42:46
  Speaker 10: York and nobody blames the organization, and nobody blames that
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: they don't put the right people around an offensive line
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: or give them up offensively. I mean, you're gonna draft
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: one of these guys, you've got to make sure that
• 42:55
  Speaker 10: you say, Okay, we're gonna invest in the quarterback. We've
• 42:56
  Speaker 10: got to get a line, we got to get weapons,
• 42:58
  Speaker 10: we've got to get the right quarterback. Like all of
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: the is so dependent on all that. And they think
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: that Sam Darnold's going to go to New York save
• 43:05
  Speaker 10: a franchise with a third overall pick that has no
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: culture of winning, nothing around him and it's like, Okay,
• 43:11
  Speaker 10: we're gonna stick in the middle of this and he's
• 43:13
  Speaker 10: gonna go. Really, I mean, that's now he comes to
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: a place or you know, he goes to San Francisco,
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: he goes to Minnesota, he goes to Seattle, he goes
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: to places where he fits what they're doing. They put
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: people around him and low and behold. It's not a
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: talent issue. One guy, generally speaking, is not going to
• 43:28
  Speaker 10: save the franchise. And that's what all these teams think. So,
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: like you said, college ball, you know, you've got to
• 43:33
  Speaker 10: have a few years under your belt. Then you've got
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: to go to the right situation. There's so many factors
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: and then we just stamp from busts kits. They can't
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: play any year like cam warden Tennessee. How is cam
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: Ward supposed to succeed in Tennessee this year? He's got
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: no chance.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And you know what, John Lone joining his Pro Football
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Wire at PFB wire. You can find that on the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: accident of course on YouTube as well. We'll tell you
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: about that at the end. I'm going to tell you
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: right now, I thought that Dante Moore thing is right.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You're right on with that one year start kind of
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a kind of a one and a half year starter.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: He had that little stint at UCLA but which was
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: just an absolute disaster. But can't like cam Ward year
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: one at Wazoo, nobody was saying, boy, this guy's this
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: guy's a lot of character, this guy's a top ten pick,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: much less number one overall. Year two he was better
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: and took some steps forward. Still, I mean, you ask
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: every Cougar fanly like, okay, man, we're not still sure.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Then he goes to Miami and he takes that next step, right,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't because he went to Miami just he
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: needed three years and that was actually his fourth year
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: of college football, right because he played in cardate word
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: like I'm with you, like like given these guys the
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: keys of the kingdom with a high pick right off
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the get go. Anthony Richardson is a great example. I mean,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I know we busted out of the socket with a rubber band,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: but you know, I mean that's.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Which which all.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: First of all, you wouldn't do that because it involved exercise,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Like like I understand what he was doing solid point,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: So there was some sort of aerobic activity taking place
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: at that point.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: But you know, like.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Richards is a great example that's like yeah this No, no,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you're not it, You're not it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 10: But way, I mean he came out as a sophomore
• 45:17
  Speaker 10: and it was like all he did was run another
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: then we're gonna Shane Stiking comes in. It's like you know,
• 45:22
  Speaker 10: thistless Eagles offense, Like come on, man, you know that's
• 45:25
  Speaker 10: not gonna work. It's just it's like a lottery ticket.
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: You have no chance.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, no, it's but that's it. Are we enjoying?
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Are you enjoying?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Like we know, you got to be kind of more
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I guess subjective or not objective rather than I should say,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: because you're working for this big thing called pro football wire. Yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: but can we enjoy it? Can we quietly enjoy the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: demise of the Chiefs. I'm tired of them, I'll be honest.
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: Oh, nobody enjoys the demise of the Chiefs more than
• 45:53
  Speaker 10: Northern California and than forty nine or spans the fact
• 45:56
  Speaker 10: that they couldn't figure it out. But yeah, it's it is.
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: It's pretty amazing. And I you know, I was one
• 46:01
  Speaker 10: who thought, no way, like I'm not counting out the Chiefs.
• 46:04
  Speaker 10: I'm not counting out the Chiefs, not gowning out of
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: the chief just because I thought defensively they would be
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: good enough. But to be honest with you, you know
• 46:10
  Speaker 10: this time, this is why you don't anoint somebody too fast,
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: because look, I'm not saying the Mahomes doesn't have talent.
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: I yeah, okay, they're missing a lot offensive linemen. I
• 46:20
  Speaker 10: get that, and they're missing receivers. I get that. But
• 46:23
  Speaker 10: let's go back to the guys that we said were
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: the greatest of all time. Like Tom Brady didn't play
• 46:27
  Speaker 10: with the greatest. You can hate him all you want.
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: He played with Gronk okay, who else, Randy Moss for
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: one year. You know, they got the right offensive line
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: around him. But he never had the best of the best.
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: And I'll even say, like when you talk about Montana,
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: he had so much going for him with Walsh and
• 46:40
  Speaker 10: the offensive line and the type of guys he had
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: around him, or Drew Brees or things like that, but
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: Peyton Manning elevated guys around him. And again Marvin Harris
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: and I get it, Reggie Wayne, Edrin James, but there
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: were times where there just wasn't those guys around and
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: what the Patriots did basically with with Belichick at the
• 46:57
  Speaker 10: rains was we're not gonna get you a skilled players
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: because Brady's that good. So everybody annoyed it Patrick Mahomes
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: and just said, well, he's the greatest, he's this, he's that,
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: he's the fastest to this, he's the fastest to that.
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: Well you take a few of those weapons away and
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: guess what, He's just not that. So look, I like Mahomes,
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: but let's stop calling him the greatest this or the
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: greatest that. And Chris Collinsworth slow like Collinsworth, I don't
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: understand if he's watching the same game that I am,
• 47:22
  Speaker 10: every you know on Sunday nights and they have Mahomes
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: on like he was terrible and he's still giving this
• 47:27
  Speaker 10: guy all these accolades on Sunday night, I'm like, what
• 47:29
  Speaker 10: game is he watching him? How much whiskey is he drinking? Kidding?
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Like the other The other part of it, too is
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: if you don't if you can't run the football at all,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: right like and none, I still and we've got coach
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Holmgren on tomorrow. I'm going to talk to him about
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: this because he's you know, Andy Reid he's tight with
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and I want to ask him every coach I you
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: know we've ever heard from talk to whether it's interviewing
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: him one of the two of us or in a
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: press conference, whatever. You know, we got to be committed
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to the run. We got to run the football, committed
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to the run. But then you always hear the same thing,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and Michael tell us this, I'm sure it'll tell us
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: this tomorrow. To run the football and be quote committed
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: to the run, you have to be patient, like you
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: have to sit there and go okay. And honestly, that's
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: why that's one of the reasons they got rid of
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Ryan Grubb here in Seattle. Mike mcdad got rid of
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: him because there was no patience like we're gonna run
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the football. Okay, we'll run the football, no instand We're
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: gonna throw first, second, third down, and we're gonna have
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: long routes that take forever to develop and next thing
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you know, Gino Smith's getting smoked right and getting hit. Well,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: that was last year. But being committed to the run
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: is the first part about running the football. Kansas City's not.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think every and I brought this up
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: yesterday with our buddy Mike Sando. We live in a
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: world of fantasy football and gambling, right, we all live
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: in that world now's and if the NFL wants to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: bury the head in the sand, they can. But the
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: reality is we're we're watching those games because almost everybody
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: watching a game has juice on it, whether it's a player, prop, fan, duel, DraftKings, casino,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: bet or fantasy football.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: So we're watching all these games, right, and we're doing
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: all these things.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Well, how many times do you watch Isaiah Pacheco or
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: even Kareem Hunt. Well, okay, there's four yards, there's six yards,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: first down, first and ten two runs, ten yards and
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: what does Kansas Cay do next? Throw deep, incomplete, throw deep, incomplete,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: sack on third down. That's what they do, right, and
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and they I mean there's no commitment to the run,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and you have to be committed. I mean that's Seattle
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: still struggles I think with that sometimes up here, like
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: with Ken Walker and Charbonney, but we're starting to see
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: more and more of Walker's developing, the offensive lines getting better.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: You've got to run the football, and Kansas City is
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: reluctant to do that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, and it does so many things. It
• 49:42
  Speaker 10: keeps an offense off the field and choose up the clock.
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: It tires out the other team like it, even it
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: goes beyond. And this is where I'll give Seattle a
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: ton of credit is Kun Kubiak has said we will
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: run the football. I mean, that's just we will run it. Hey,
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: you know what, maybe it's two and a half yards
• 49:55
  Speaker 10: or three yards and a cloud of dust, and it's
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: not exactly what we want. But there are so many
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: good things to running the football, and you better be
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: able to do it, especially if you're gonna have to
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: go on the road, if Seattle's not gonna win the
• 50:06
  Speaker 10: division and you know, be a five seat or something,
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: if you have to go to Green Bay, if you
• 50:09
  Speaker 10: go to Philly. Although, god, we can talk about the NFC.
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: Philly's done right, So Philly, Philly is just what Kansas
• 50:14
  Speaker 10: City is in the NFC. They are done. I don't
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: know what happened to Jalen Hurts. It's the same kind
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: of a situation. You know. He reminds me a little
• 50:22
  Speaker 10: bit of like Kaepernick one read. You know, if the
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: first read is not there for Jalen Hurts, he really struggles.
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: But anyway. You know, but you've got to be able
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: to run the football because there are other things other
• 50:31
  Speaker 10: than you know, fans look at the surface of it
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: a lot of times and they go, well, we got
• 50:34
  Speaker 10: three yards. Yeah, but you're grinding the other team, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: you're keeping the clock going, and you're and you're keeping
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: the other team's offense off the field. There are so
• 50:41
  Speaker 10: many different things. You know, you're you're you're exerting your
• 50:44
  Speaker 10: your physical dominance onto another team. There's just a lot
• 50:47
  Speaker 10: of things that the run game does for you. I mean,
• 50:49
  Speaker 10: if you look at the history, and I don't know
• 50:50
  Speaker 10: what McDonald's is, but like when Kyle Shanahan gets thirty
• 50:53
  Speaker 10: more or more runs, the Niners win like ninety percent
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: of their games, and if he doesn't get thirty or
• 50:58
  Speaker 10: more runs, they're like five hundred. I mean, it's just
• 51:00
  Speaker 10: that's as simple as that. You've got to be able.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: To do it.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: John n joining us, let's quickly talk about the NFC,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: just because I think it's as you look through here,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I mean one through four seeds of the division leaders
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: right now, so you got West, Northeast, South, then after
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that the next three teams in the postseason Seattle, San Francisco, Chicago,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: West West North.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the North has.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: And the next team the first Well, let's let's do
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: March madness. First team out North right in Detroit. Yeah,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: it's it's that's what it is. Philadelphi, I mean, Dallas
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: isn't gonna get there, Carolina, doubtful. We pretty much know
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: who's going to get there right now. It's going to
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: be between Chicago and Detroit more than likely for that
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: last playoff spot.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: And as you.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Mentioned, though, if I'm anybody not in a division lead,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: if I'm anybody has to play a game Seattle, San Francisco,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I want to see Philadelphia, maybe even more so than Tampa,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, maybe more so than Tampa.
• 51:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think Philly's the worst team of the bunch,
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: even though I'm not a huge fan of Chicago, and
• 51:59
  Speaker 10: we know what what's happened to Tampa lately, and you know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 10: right now, if I'm a Seahak fan, I'm thinking of
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: that four or five going well, if we don't win
• 52:04
  Speaker 10: the division, it's not so bad. The only problem is
• 52:07
  Speaker 10: and this stinks for the playoffs in general, is okay?
• 52:10
  Speaker 10: So the last seed then plays the number one. The
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: number one is off, which obviously that's why you want
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: to get that. But what you're gonna get on divisional
• 52:18
  Speaker 10: weekend instead of in the NFC championship game is you're
• 52:20
  Speaker 10: gonna get Ram Seahawks, depending on where it is, because
• 52:23
  Speaker 10: if it stays where it is right now, the winner
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: of the NFC West, whether it be the Rams of
• 52:27
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks, get the number one seed, and then the
• 52:30
  Speaker 10: other team drops to the five. That's great, you play
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: Tampa or Carolina, probably Tampa, you go there, you win.
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: But the way it sits right now, then that means
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: the number one seed is going to play the worst
• 52:39
  Speaker 10: remaining seed, which is gonna be either the Seahawks or
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: the Rams. So you're gonna get that in the divisional
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: instead of the NFC championship game. As far as the
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: actual NFC, I don't believe in the Bears. I believe
• 52:50
  Speaker 10: none in the Eagles at all. The Packers, I think
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: are a team to be reckoned with. I just look,
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: I'd love to sit here and stoke the fire and
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: say that the Niners can do this, and I don't
• 52:59
  Speaker 10: know how solid is doing it. They have the best
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: defense in the league since week eleven. I know the
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: Seahawks are great, but he's keeping it together with you know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: chewing gum and chicken wire and duct tape and all
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: those kind of things. I just don't think they can
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: maintain it. They're gonna be up there and they're gonna fight.
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: That last game could be for the NFC West because
• 53:17
  Speaker 10: San Francisco has such an easy schedule, but come playoff
• 53:20
  Speaker 10: the time, I just don't think they're gonna be a factor.
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: So to me, it's Rams, Seahawks, and and and Packers.
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: I think those are the three teams.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because so Seattle beats the Rams a week
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: from Thursday and at that if that were to happen
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and both teams win this week, then Seattle eleven and three,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: eleven and three, Seattle would be twelve and three, the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Rams would be eleven and four, and then assuming Seattle
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: gets a win in Carolina, then yeah, San Francisco. I
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: don't know if it wud be for the division, but
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: it would. Here's a problem. Like we talked about the
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: team three way right there, maybe yeah, you'd have a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: three way tie. The other part of it is, does
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: San Francisco play the Rams again?
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: No?
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: No, you know what they Yeah, they do play the Rams.
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: When I think about, yeah, they got them one more time. No, no,
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: they don't have them. I thought they did. What did
• 54:08
  Speaker 10: I think they did? They have the Titans, they have
• 54:09
  Speaker 10: the Colts and the Bears, and they have not the Seahawks. Yeah,
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: they split, they split.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: With the Rams, so a three way So that last
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: game of the year with Seattle and San Francisco could
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: mean something.
• 54:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well that's gonna be huge. Yeah, that could be
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: for the division. I mean, I mean, it's crazy as
• 54:23
  Speaker 10: it sounds because everybody's talking about the Rams and the Seahawks,
• 54:26
  Speaker 10: and they should be. I think those are the two
• 54:27
  Speaker 10: best teams in the NFC clearly, although on a given day,
• 54:30
  Speaker 10: I think Green Bay could be in that conversation, especially
• 54:33
  Speaker 10: if it's at Lambeau. But based on the schedule, again,
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: they're playing the Titans at home. They're gonna win that game.
• 54:39
  Speaker 10: They're going to the Colts with maybe Philip Rivers the
• 54:42
  Speaker 10: team you'll see this weekend. They win that game. The Bears,
• 54:44
  Speaker 10: I just don't believe it. They're gonna get him in
• 54:46
  Speaker 10: San Francisco, and then that Seahawk game. They they could
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: go three and out. And I think they will in
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: the next three weeks. And so all of a sudden,
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: you know they're twelve and four going into that last game.
• 54:57
  Speaker 10: So Seattle does obviously control their destiny, but they're gonna
• 55:00
  Speaker 10: have to win in Santa Clair, your favorite stadium on Earth.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Well, as long as you this is softy favorite thing,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: as long as you don't drink from the urinal in
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the press box, you're fine.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: The fact that you guys, the fact that you guys
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: have a sign there is just speaks volumes about whether
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: it be you or Matt Myoko or whoever it is,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: whoever it is speaking, whoever's speaking to the fact you
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: have to put a sign in the urinal in the
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: press box, and Levi Stina says, do not drink this water.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: That's an indictment on somebody there, And sure as hell
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: isn't me because I only I used to go there
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: once a year, not every every week.
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to say.
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: In thirty years of doing this and many urinals, including
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: one in New Orleans by the way, that was a circular,
• 55:45
  Speaker 10: it was a this is an amazing conversation. But okay,
• 55:49
  Speaker 10: so they had the troughs right, which are very demeaning.
• 55:51
  Speaker 10: The troughs, which is just like, you know, if people
• 55:53
  Speaker 10: don't know this from older stadiums.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Everyone the Kingdom knows them. Kingdom.
• 55:58
  Speaker 10: Everybody just gets like is it going?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Buddy?
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: They've got one in New Orleans. I'm not kidding you.
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: It's circular. It's a circular trough. So you're just you're
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: across the other guy going hey man, god, did you good?
• 56:12
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's just like, what what are we doing?
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: You're lucky at each other.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: You don't have to you don't have to look, but.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: You probably don't.
• 56:21
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• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I have massive I'd have a massive stage right, to
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: be honest with.
• 56:27
  Speaker 10: Stage right, We stand around. It's very a couple. It's
• 56:31
  Speaker 10: a circular trough in the Superdome and it's like what
• 56:34
  Speaker 10: who who thought of this?
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: Very I need a partition, you know.
• 56:39
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  Speaker 1: about that for a second. Because now you finally got
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  Speaker 1: the gin. Thank god, you're welcome. And it took two years,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: three years, four years. I met you guys like six
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: years ago, and it's like it took a couple of years.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: The gin is fantastic. But let's talk about the other spirits.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: We'll start with the bourbons have.
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, bourbon is the core of the business. We have
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: four right now. So we didn't want to make just
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: a bourbon, right, We want to make a great bourbon
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: but with a great story. So we actually age our
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: bourbon in a floating boat house on page of sound.
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: So we do that because with the motion of the ocean,
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: there's more in action with the wood. You can imagine
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: bourbon gets roughly two thirds of the flavor from the wood.
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: We're speeding up the aging process. There's a great temperature
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: change out there. All those factors culminate into making a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: great depending on the whiskey, three to six year bourbon.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: That's amazing. It still takes that long. You've got the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: new one out right. This is the Captain's reserve.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: And that is a single barrel. At least we do
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: one a year and we basically cherry pick a barrel
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: we lit at age five years and it's gonna be
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: one of our best barrels. They're all different because they're
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: single barrel. Every barrel is different, so we're not blending
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: multiple barrels. But this might be one of my favorite
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: of the five we've released.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: And again, if you have someone in your life that's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: in the holiday season that loves great bourbon, this is
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: to get this the greenhorn, the straight straight, whatever it is.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: This is a support local support the craft disteeleries like you.
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  Speaker 6: Guys, We appreciate it.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I really encourage people do that. Come on down.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: You have other trinkets, stocking stuff for some other cool
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: stuff up there as well. The vodka, the Ron vodka.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I'm told my guy Murphy's here today. He's a vodka guy.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Gives me the thumbs up of the vodka that's sea
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: salt and fused.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: It's we call it the men Water of Vodka's just
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: a slight touch of local sea salt from San Juan Island.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: The San Juan Island Seasal Company another great company to support.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: I would definitely support those guys. But yeah, we put
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: just a mineral water amount, so it's not very much,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: but it softens it and we believe it's the smooths
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: us drinking vodka we've ever had.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Ghost Dog whiskey.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: Great for tailgating, like spice, ghost pepper and honey infused
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: moonshine essentially, but great straight grain in a cocktail. It's hot,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: but not crazy hot, but it's all natural.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I like it in coffee myself. I would a coffee
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: little cream with it. It's a perfect tailgating or cold
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: weather drink. It's fantastic in the gin. About the gin, yeah,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: so everything like the vodka. We're kind of a maritime theme, right.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: We ate our bourbon on the water. Our vodka has
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: touch of sea salt. So the gin we it took
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: us a while because we didn't want to do just
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: a gin. So this gin has a just a touch
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: of sea kelpleef in it along with the traditional botanacles
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: you would associate with kelp or associate with gin. So
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: it has a little mommy flavored to it. It's a lighter,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: easy drinking gin. You've had it, you can talk to that.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's the differentiator, is that the sliding
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: mommy touched with.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: This I don't like. I'm very, very very particular about
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: my gin. It is very good. I can tell you that. Again.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: People kind of come down here.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trivia on Tuesdays, or if you're shopping, say at
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: the town Center across the street, come in, treat yourself.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: You get some holiday specials.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: Open seven days a week, we opening at four and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: weekdays earlier. On the weekends, we do brunch on Sunday.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: Come on in at ten am. Yeah, So Trivia Tuesday,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: Trivia Tuesday.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: All right, do we have anything on the text line that.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: You tell you A lot about the Pa Troughs, A
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: lot about that the troughs.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: I love our audience. It's like the most predictable thing.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: We got more, well, all this stuff and it comes
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: down to Petron.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Then literally anything else we talked about sports related on
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to go with that.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Washington State ferries, apparently from the four to two five
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: still have circular peeing troughs in their men's bathroom fun times.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: I was, you remember the p troughs into actually you
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: know the last one here.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: I would put little duckies in him on an organ.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Game day, That's right, I do remember that.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Actually, Kingdom had the last ones that I remember were
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: the Coma Doome before they remodeled. They remodeled it, Comba
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Dome no longer there.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Kind of a bummer, all.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Right, bathrooms are way more fun than women's. Uh this
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: another four to two five A circular trough was one
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: peeing in an old Kingdom sink, and it made me
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: think that maybe he was.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: He probably was.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: Those were that, Yeah that I was there.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were wrong.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: That's not where you were supposed to go use the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: restaurant that was shockingly to wash your hands.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: But I guess that wouldn't have been very good either.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: What else you got, Let's see, we have a couple
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: of Wazoo texts from the two six Hiring Rick new
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Heusl makes a lot of sense for Washington State, doesn't it.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: You have a coach with a credible name recognition and
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: would love to bring him an heir apparent to take
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: over him after him for a lungevity.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I think those guys asked him this morning on the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: morning show about it. When we'll grab that sound bite
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: for tomorrow. But he listen that the new heisl tandem
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Rick and his son Jerry, it certainly has the Dick
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Bennett Tony Bennett vibes to it. I get that although
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Dick wasn't that far removed from coaching Ricksman out of
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: it for a while. That's that would be my one
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: concern there. Thanks, Yeah, I could see that. I mean,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to it. I'm open to it.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: What else, all right? Bad beats of the year.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: It came down this coming from the two five three,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: It came down to two teams for the last playoff spots,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: the ld GBS and the Hungry Dogs. I think this
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: was meant for someone else.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I think this was about fantasy football. Yeah, Okay, what four, two, five?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: What happens that the Seahawks only go one in three
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: or two and two? No one's talking about that possibility.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: One more win they're in. Yeah, the love wins, you're in.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean then you get a lower seed obviously
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: that people think they're gonna finish one and three?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Would people be upset with even eleven and six? Like
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: if you had been if you had given eleven and
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: six before the start of this season, how many people
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: would have taken that most?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: But I think if you're sitting there at ten and three.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, would I agree with that?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: Context matters, sure.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I mean we shouldn't be thinking about that. You should
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: be thinking right now about winning a division. Yes, which
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: comes down you beat Indianapos games, you beat Indianapolis, and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you play for the division next next Thursday. Yeah, it's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: as simple as that, Like there's no anything else. All Right,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go this fain standing by. We'll get to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Dick Fane coming up next.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Loser of the bungee cord contest yesterday at the Cracking
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: game to Softy.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: I think they both lost.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Be honest, I think we were all the losers.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I have a video, but all right, we'll check in
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: with Fame coming up next. All right, we're back on
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: a cracket ticket Tuesday. You probably just heard the sounder,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: so people are calling in. Andrews answered the phone stick
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Fane joints us right now, Hello sir, how are you?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: What's going on?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 11: Man?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: How are you?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: You survived the bungee court pullint contest yesterday with the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: soft one.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 13: I see survival was the number one, number two and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 13: number three objective.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: I just want everybody to know that.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 13: I mean, I saw Tim Booth throwing some shade on Twitter,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 13: you know, saying it was a you know, a disaster
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 13: or what have you, and I just I just politely
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 13: wrote back to him, My said, my friend, when two
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 13: fifty somethings compete on the ice, uh and you come
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 13: out with no broken bones, no tendon torn, that is
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 13: a massive success.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Well, because I think people are used to seeing that,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: where like both guys go full blown yes each other
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: and then then someone snaps back and then there's like
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: an absolute yard sale exactly.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 13: But you know what, those guys are twenty five year
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 13: olds that have had like five vodkatonics.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: You guys, you guys, approached it from a more conservative
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: that's respective. And so it was just it was much
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: like the hockey game last night, hockey term here. It
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: was low event, yes, a low event bungee game. It
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: was a hockey game, Yes it was, And yes it was.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: And you both and you know what, you both came
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: out of their un skating, unlike Matt Zucarello, who they're still.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Picking up wow chack. I was.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: I had one eye.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 13: I had one eye on the hockey game and one
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 13: eye on the Monday night football game. And I heard
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 13: it and and Rich Moore was doing the same and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 13: he goes, He's we're right next to each other. We
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 13: were literally going back and forth between the hockey game
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 13: and watching his money the Monday night football game. And
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 13: I see him go he goes oh, And I was
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 13: like looking at the eyes, like what what did I miss?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 13: And as soon as I look at the ice, there's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 13: just a freaking melee in the corner, right in our
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 13: corner where we were at and uh. And then I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 13: saw the replay. I was like, oh, man, he got
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 13: ass over teakettle, didn't he?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: That was a and it was a clean hit, yes
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I understand why they jumped while they all
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: five guys in the ice jumped Vince and went after him.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a guy in Zucarell. He's an older guy,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: he's well respected. He got he didn't play the first
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: fifteen games or so of the season because.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: He was hurt.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Might have been a head injury as well, and so
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I get it. But that's the violence of the game.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: That's clean shoulder to shoulder. But oh my god, in
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: real time, I'm.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Like, whoa at his old school? Well you did? What
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: am I gonna see? What am I gonna see with
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: the bungee jump? After?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: I know, I know, Well, you did a nice job
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: on the call.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 13: Actually I went home and you know, I was, I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 13: was kind of done after the second intermission. I'm like,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 13: I'm gonna go home and watch you in the third period.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 13: I watched the third period on TV. You did a
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 13: nice job. Unfortunately you had to deal with, you know,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 13: a goal that Gruby never even had a chance to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 13: see and then two empty net goals and that's it.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: That's all. Thank you were done.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: Kind of a bumber, cind of a bumber. The money
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: That game was interesting.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Touch on that what a just a dog? What a dog?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 13: I mean, I'm watching hurt dude, What is wrong with you?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 13: Those teams aren't close to the Seahawks. Not close to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 13: the Seahawks. And one's nine and four and what's the
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 13: other the other one is like eight and five or
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 13: something like. But it's like, holy, there is a big
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 13: gap now, all of a sudden, where everything was lumped
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 13: in and we're gonna start the three o'clock segment with this, Well,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 13: everything was lumped together like four weeks ago, like, oh man,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 13: who's the best team in the league. There's like twelve
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 13: teams all the same. Not anymore, there's like two teams
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 13: the same.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I ram Seahawks gap. Feel like there's a big gap now.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I do believe packers. Me to say it packers or
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: start packers, the kind of they've kind of found themselves
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: a little the last few weeks and have rediscovered that hey,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: we're we're pretty good. And Micah Parsons is actually every
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: now and then playing meaningful snaps. That's and Jordan loves
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: becoming a problem. Jacobs is a problem. I don't until
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: they just go away. The cockroach is San Francis go
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers works.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: Well, that's because they're scal that's the thing.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: So easy.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 13: Do you know they're twenty three to one to win
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 13: the super Bowl, And I'm like, I don't think they're
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 13: gonna win the super Bowl, but they could win every
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 13: game the rest of the year because the Seahawks are
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 13: the only good team they play.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. And I was thinking I was
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: hoping all along that game would meet nothing, and I
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: think it's gonna meet something. Yeah, it probably will gonna
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: be a coming up today.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 13: Ah yeah, Well we'll do our little NFL power pole.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 13: We'll see, we'll see how close Hugh thinks that everybody
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 13: else is to the Seahawks and the and the Rams.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: John Wilner will join us.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 13: We're gonna do a little Demond Williams breakdown his door.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 13: Is this what we're gonna get from Demond Williams? We
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: will ask you, like, is this just a is this
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 13: just a stopping ground in twenty twenty five to something great?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 13: Or is this kind of all we're gonna get from
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 13: Demond Williams with the Huskies.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I like that, all right, Well, I mean I'd mentioned
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: this to London earlier you know, like people all these
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: one and done quarterbacks in today's world, right, sometimes you
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: gotta wait for those guys to develop. Yeah, Camp cam
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Loard after his first year at Wazoo. If you would
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: have said he's gonna be amber one overall pick where
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: he said he's gonna be a first round pick, I.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Would have laughed at you. Absolutely, and he goes number
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: one overall. So sometimes you gotta I hate to say this,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: sometimes you gotta be patient.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. Patience.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 13: Patience and college football are absolute imposters.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: They are antithesis of each other.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Have a great show, A big shout out, and thanks
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: again to our friends here Chambers May Distillery University place
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: right off a bridgeport.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: Can't miss it. Come on down, buy some gifts for
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: the holidays.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: I want my invite down there for ness.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: You're invited at any time. Pain, come on down, Come
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: on listen, you're in des Moines.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: Try a little golf, a little whiskey. God, that's a
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: good day right there.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: It is a very good day. Have a great show.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 13: See for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably in forness.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: This is paddled day saying so long everyone