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- 0:06Speaker 1: Welcome back to the District Territory Show. I'm Yeric Shellhouse
- 0:10Speaker 1: alongside me Kevin Franzen, the Washington Nationals insisture does bound
- 0:14Speaker 1: the athletic guys coming high. Also high tough loss last
- 0:18Speaker 1: night and that's now just four and thirteen at home
- 0:21Speaker 1: as opposed to twelve and seven on the road. But Franny,
- 0:25Speaker 1: I heard an interesting stat in the game the other night.
- 0:27Speaker 1: This is Kid Cabali's nineteenth career.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Big League start.
- 0:31Speaker 1: You know, I think we forget sometimes just how young
- 0:34Speaker 1: of a player he is because he's just been around
- 0:36Speaker 1: and people have talked about him for so long.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Look, I think that's a very accurate statement. You look
- 0:46Speaker 4: at Cade and what he's able to do in the
- 0:48Speaker 4: inconsistencies he has is like a young guy. I feel
- 0:51Speaker 4: like when you watch it, he's not young technically by age,
- 0:54Speaker 4: but by arm. Yes, I just when it hits a
- 1:00Speaker 4: fan for him, it happens fast and it's it's it's
- 1:04Speaker 4: wild to watch because like he he had first five
- 1:07Speaker 4: outs and eleven pitches, five outs, eleven pitches, and then
- 1:11Speaker 4: it took another sixty five pitches to get the next what.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Seven outs?
- 1:18Speaker 4: So I mean it just it went from them being aggressive,
- 1:21Speaker 4: him hitting his spots doing great things, and then where
- 1:25Speaker 4: did it go?
- 1:27Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:28Speaker 5: Yeah, Blake had even mentioned when we talked to him
- 1:30Speaker 5: after excuse Me before the New York started, he described
- 1:34Speaker 5: Kate as a blank canvas, and I thought that was
- 1:36Speaker 5: a really interesting description in the sense that like, for
- 1:39Speaker 5: as much as we think we know who he is,
- 1:42Speaker 5: and for as much as he probably thinks he knows
- 1:44Speaker 5: who he is, he's still learning the adjustments of Hey,
- 1:47Speaker 5: my stuff plays this way, I read hitters this way.
- 1:51Speaker 5: I think he's a really smart pitcher, and I think
- 1:52Speaker 5: he'll figure it out. But we're still at the point
- 1:55Speaker 5: in his career where like you're gonna see games like
- 1:58Speaker 5: this where maybe the adjustment and isn't quite there as
- 2:01Speaker 5: quick or there's just like an off night, and he'll
- 2:05Speaker 5: he'll need to learn how to handle those, and I
- 2:07Speaker 5: have confidence that he will. But yeah, especially when that
- 2:11Speaker 5: when the breaking stuff doesn't land in the zone and
- 2:15Speaker 5: he doesn't have commanded that the fastball gets hit pretty hard,
- 2:18Speaker 5: and so I think that's probably also the next adjustment
- 2:21Speaker 5: for him, at least that's my call.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Yeah, Franny, you had a good one on the broadcast
- 2:26Speaker 1: last night. That they were just attacking very quickly, you know,
- 2:29Speaker 1: two straight games for kid with two strikeouts or at
- 2:32Speaker 1: least ten strikeouts. And they certainly had a game plan
- 2:35Speaker 1: last night. It was to get after him early.
- 2:38Speaker 4: And whether or not that was the game plan, we
- 2:40Speaker 4: don't know, right Like, that's that's the whole thing. But
- 2:43Speaker 4: if I saw a guy that had you know, twenty
- 2:44Speaker 4: punch in two games, I look at it going, I
- 2:51Speaker 4: can't let him get ahead. I can't and from the
- 2:54Speaker 4: from the get go, because the breaking ball is real,
- 2:56Speaker 4: right Like, we know that, and it's one of those
- 2:58Speaker 4: that if he's landing you have, you're gonna have a
- 3:00Speaker 4: tough time. But early in the games, I feel like,
- 3:04Speaker 4: here's the other part of it right where I'm big
- 3:07Speaker 4: in not using everything early on.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Some people are like, well, just let it, let.
- 3:13Speaker 4: It eat from the beginning, because that's you know, you
- 3:15Speaker 4: never know how long you have and you save pitches.
- 3:18Speaker 4: And he was able to do that against the Mets,
- 3:20Speaker 4: right like he was able to save that curveball till
- 3:22Speaker 4: the number nine hit are running. Mauricio, Well, last night
- 3:27Speaker 4: told me a lot different. Last night told me they
- 3:29Speaker 4: were not looking for the curveball at all. They were
- 3:32Speaker 4: just going if I see, how do I hit the curveball,
- 3:34Speaker 4: I don't miss the fastball. That's what they were doing,
- 3:36Speaker 4: you know, And I think that that was a pretty
- 3:39Speaker 4: good plan with it. And you know, when you execute
- 3:42Speaker 4: and one of the first, you know, curveballs that you
- 3:45Speaker 4: rip off is right in the leg of Cody Clemens,
- 3:50Speaker 4: I think it it kind of goes to the point of,
- 3:52Speaker 4: you know, everybody else they know.
- 3:53Speaker 3: He's not going to come with his curveball. He's not
- 3:55Speaker 3: confident with it yet.
- 3:56Speaker 4: So I don't know, it just seemed like they were
- 3:59Speaker 4: so aggressive early on, knowing that he's going to be
- 4:01Speaker 4: in zone early, just because that's what k has shown
- 4:04Speaker 4: and done. Yeah, it just they hammered him.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Yeah, give her viewers online a look at last night's
- 4:13Speaker 1: pitching box score one time and only six runs, three
- 4:16Speaker 1: of them earned. But you know, that's always an interesting
- 4:19Speaker 1: case for me. When the pitcher commits the air is
- 4:20Speaker 1: it is it really an unearned run? And you got
- 4:23Speaker 1: to look at the right.
- 4:26Speaker 2: I would call that an earned run in my opinion.
- 4:28Speaker 4: But in that play too, like going to his left,
- 4:30Speaker 4: like he's so athletic and he knows he can make
- 4:33Speaker 4: that play. But it's not the right play in that
- 4:36Speaker 4: moment because it's like, if you're gonna have he would
- 4:39Speaker 4: have to either backhand, flip it or throw it with
- 4:42Speaker 4: his glove to get it there, you know, to home.
- 4:45Speaker 4: It'd be like a middle Get the out of first.
- 4:47Speaker 4: Just get the out of first. That's a that's the
- 4:49Speaker 4: main thing. You're playing outs right there. Just get the outs.
- 4:51Speaker 4: You can make up ground, especially with how poor the
- 4:55Speaker 4: Twins bullpen has been this year.
- 4:56Speaker 3: You keep it somewhat close. I mean, you have a.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Chance, and the Nats rotating bullpen carousel just just continues.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Andre Ganilo is sent down last night. Jackson Rutledge designated
- 5:08Speaker 1: for assignment to open up spot for Max Cranic signing
- 5:11Speaker 1: to become official with the one one in a Club
- 5:15Speaker 1: option for twenty twenty seven. Spencer, you sent out this
- 5:17Speaker 1: sweet the other day. This isn't a guy that the
- 5:20Speaker 1: Nats are expecting to be a part of the bullpen
- 5:23Speaker 1: immediately or overnight. But what can you tell us about
- 5:26Speaker 1: him and what we might expect to see him?
- 5:29Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not a ton of new info there, so
- 5:32Speaker 5: I don't want to speculate too much. I guess what
- 5:34Speaker 5: i'd say is he threw pretty hard in kind of
- 5:39Speaker 5: a showcase practice sort of situation tryout, but they still
- 5:45Speaker 5: don't necessarily see him joining the team. I don't think
- 5:47Speaker 5: within the next few weeks or so. Now, again, this
- 5:50Speaker 5: is all subject to change, but it's another guy where
- 5:54Speaker 5: you're just you're kind of banking on the stuff to
- 5:57Speaker 5: carry you pretty far and the little bit of a
- 6:00Speaker 5: big league track record, where again, almost everyone else in
- 6:04Speaker 5: the bullpen really hasn't done it for an extended stretch before.
- 6:10Speaker 5: I think I don't really have a whole lot more
- 6:13Speaker 5: on that front, but for me, it's again it's a
- 6:15Speaker 5: it's another pitcher who's you know, gonna get a shot,
- 6:18Speaker 5: and that's ultimately what the season is about. So yeah,
- 6:22Speaker 5: I'm interested to see once he joins, if he's able
- 6:24Speaker 5: to pump ninety five ninety six like it was last year.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what's exciting to me about at least
- 6:30Speaker 1: to me, Franny, I'm curious or your thoughts. Is like
- 6:32Speaker 1: a club option there tells me the team really believes
- 6:35Speaker 1: in the stuff here, and regardless if it's going to
- 6:38Speaker 1: be this season or next, they see him being a
- 6:40Speaker 1: guy that can really contribute to the bullpen.
- 6:42Speaker 3: One way or the other.
- 6:44Speaker 4: Yeah, because those those deals are so different too, right,
- 6:46Speaker 4: because you know, arbitration eligible all this stuff.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I don't think he would be, would he. I think
- 6:52Speaker 3: he's got three years of service, so maybe he would.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Maybe might be wrong, maybe you would.
- 6:56Speaker 4: But so the whole thing is, anyway you're giving this
- 7:00Speaker 4: guy shot, You're trying to build up as many arms and.
- 7:03Speaker 3: And chances as you can. That's the whole thing.
- 7:05Speaker 4: That's the you know, Mike to Barlow really started started
- 7:08Speaker 4: this trend with the Nats last year, taking chances and
- 7:12Speaker 4: and and going and you know, taking shots on guys
- 7:15Speaker 4: off the waiver wire, right like. And then then you
- 7:18Speaker 4: have this opportunity where a guy is a free agent
- 7:21Speaker 4: to sign, why not take the chance?
- 7:24Speaker 3: You know, you need to find.
- 7:26Speaker 4: Arms and and maybe at the same time rest not
- 7:29Speaker 4: even rest save some of your very own arms within
- 7:33Speaker 4: the the system, you know, from rushing them up there
- 7:37Speaker 4: and and and using the bullets when they don't need
- 7:39Speaker 4: to be used yet here in the big leagues.
- 7:41Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I I was just pulling up
- 7:44Speaker 5: on fangrass right now, the bullpen right now. Gusvarland, Waivers,
- 7:48Speaker 5: PJ Poolin Waivers love Lady purchased off New York Schultz Waivers.
- 7:56Speaker 5: Grenello was, you know, not gonna be on the Cardinals
- 7:59Speaker 5: forty min so they traded for him. It's a lot
- 8:02Speaker 5: of guys where other orgs have given up on them,
- 8:06Speaker 5: and the Nats have said, hey, we trust our infrastructure
- 8:08Speaker 5: now and we trust the ability to give these guys chances, right,
- 8:11Speaker 5: and a lot of these And that's the most interesting
- 8:13Speaker 5: thing about picking up bullpen arms is I don't want
- 8:16Speaker 5: to say it's as simple as they're always one tweak away,
- 8:18Speaker 5: but that's kind of how I think of it, where like,
- 8:21Speaker 5: if you can add one more pitch these guys and
- 8:24Speaker 5: they're so volatile that like you can probably get a
- 8:27Speaker 5: good twenty innings stretch out it, Like I don't know
- 8:31Speaker 5: for me, that's where waivers are most useful. And I
- 8:34Speaker 5: think that's where in years past you probably suld of
- 8:36Speaker 5: seeing the Nets doing it more. And I think it's
- 8:38Speaker 5: really encouraging that they're keeping that up.
- 8:40Speaker 3: On the season.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I think one hundred percent of one play I do
- 8:44Speaker 1: want to highlight from last night's game was the Nets
- 8:47Speaker 1: did strike first in the bottom of the first inning
- 8:49Speaker 1: and daleen Lyle had some phenomenal base running. Those of
- 8:52Speaker 1: you watching online didn't hesitate for a second, and that
- 8:55Speaker 1: speed of his just deadly able to beat it out
- 8:58Speaker 1: and get us on a up to when early one
- 9:00Speaker 1: nothing late as he disappears and gravitates.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Where did he go?
- 9:04Speaker 2: He just disappears.
- 9:05Speaker 1: But yeah, Franny Ivy, I mean you had a great
- 9:07Speaker 1: call that on the broadcast.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Don't walk in that area today. I might get swallowed
- 9:12Speaker 3: out the camera.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Well might just mount you up like a sand pit.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Quick stand over there. But off the third days, I
- 9:19Speaker 1: mean that that was a contact play. I was kind
- 9:22Speaker 1: of shocked that Twins had the infield in in the
- 9:25Speaker 1: bottom of the first inning, But maybe that just was
- 9:27Speaker 1: a respect to Kamali in the way he's been pitching lately.
- 9:29Speaker 1: But what do you see on that play?
- 9:31Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot goes. It's a little different
- 9:34Speaker 4: too now with infield in because there's either guys that
- 9:36Speaker 4: you know, hit ball over the outfield, you know, into
- 9:41Speaker 4: the outfield a lot, or they are ground balls and
- 9:45Speaker 4: they're they're softly hit ground balls with splitters, and you know,
- 9:49Speaker 4: you get a guy that has a good four seamer
- 9:50Speaker 4: in TODs Bradley yesterday, you take the chance, so I
- 9:52Speaker 4: wasn't surprised they were in on that.
- 9:55Speaker 3: What I will say is watching guys practices.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Before games has not been the norm, and they're out there,
- 10:06Speaker 4: they're working on contact play, the timing of it, you know,
- 10:09Speaker 4: making sure the hot It was twenty twenty when you
- 10:12Speaker 4: know against Dodgers, Rays and Mookie Betts had two in
- 10:15Speaker 4: the series, and they highlighted it, and I'm like, beautiful,
- 10:18Speaker 4: this is beautiful because like what.
- 10:20Speaker 3: He did was.
- 10:23Speaker 4: He gained his ground, but as Dalen did, you're up
- 10:27Speaker 4: in the air landing at the same time that ball
- 10:29Speaker 4: was supposed to be across home plate and right at
- 10:32Speaker 4: his contact he was off.
- 10:33Speaker 3: It was no hesitation. Like you think about that play
- 10:36Speaker 3: last night.
- 10:37Speaker 4: If IKF had done any semblance of that, Blue Jays
- 10:41Speaker 4: would have been World champions.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:43Speaker 4: I'm not even talking about walking down. I'm just saying
- 10:45Speaker 4: like being ready to go, like he didn't go until
- 10:48Speaker 4: ball was passed. The picture Dalen was off you could
- 10:50Speaker 4: see like replays. I stopped it on the ISO afterwards
- 10:55Speaker 4: for myself because I wanted to see it. The ball
- 10:56Speaker 4: was on the ground and he was off stop and
- 11:00Speaker 4: that to me is it.
- 11:01Speaker 3: That's everything. And you know, it.
- 11:04Speaker 4: Shows how perfect you have to be with your throat.
- 11:07Speaker 4: You know, Keishaw was was great on that. But he
- 11:10Speaker 4: threw it to the left handed batter's box, right just
- 11:12Speaker 4: to the right side of home plate. Next thing, you know,
- 11:15Speaker 4: that's the opening that you can get on the on
- 11:16Speaker 4: the left side. But Dalen had a fantastic read on that,
- 11:20Speaker 4: not even read it, just anticipation.
- 11:22Speaker 3: However, let's just say.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Yeah, the anticipation.
- 11:24Speaker 1: It reminded me a little bit of the Sunday Night
- 11:26Speaker 1: Baseball Bryce play, the pickoff play. He's coming home like,
- 11:30Speaker 1: just no hesitation.
- 11:33Speaker 3: You can't you can't hesitate. You gotta be confident in
- 11:35Speaker 3: what you prepare, prepare to do.
- 11:36Speaker 4: And and you know, in that case, it was, you know,
- 11:40Speaker 4: just a contact play.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Better be you know, ball on ground, see see the angle.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Next thing you know, you go.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Yeah, it was exciting play and got on Nats off
- 11:50Speaker 1: to a hot start. But of course that was not
- 11:52Speaker 1: the way it crumbled last night. We're gonna take it.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Really quick.
- 11:56Speaker 4: I think the next play is the one that matters
- 11:59Speaker 4: of the whole game, and it's the strikeout of Jacob Young. Yeah,
- 12:03Speaker 4: you know, you get these you get these opportunities in
- 12:05Speaker 4: the first inning with runners at third fewer than two,
- 12:07Speaker 4: you got to get those guys in, especially in the
- 12:09Speaker 4: first There's something about getting that the crooked number going
- 12:12Speaker 4: in that first inning, one run game whatever to run.
- 12:16Speaker 4: The manager on the other side is think about the
- 12:17Speaker 4: thinking about things differently seriously.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Yeah, and the base runners in the second they had
- 12:23Speaker 1: a chance to respond to in a two to one game. Yeah,
- 12:27Speaker 1: and that's now, as I said earlier, just four and
- 12:29Speaker 1: thirteen at home as opposed to twelve and seven on
- 12:31Speaker 1: the road. And I think it's one in four in
- 12:34Speaker 1: the first game of the series at home. Yeah, just
- 12:36Speaker 1: struggling in series openers at home. But we're going to
- 12:39Speaker 1: take a quick break when we come back. Spencer put
- 12:41Speaker 1: out a survey in that stands and we're going to
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- 13:46Speaker 1: Alrighty, we are back as we were discussing right before
- 13:49Speaker 1: the break. Spencer, you put out a survey the other
- 13:52Speaker 1: day and eighty percent of Nationals fans believe that the
- 13:57Speaker 1: Learners should sell the team.
- 14:00Speaker 2: I'm curious, you know, what do you make of this?
- 14:03Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, these were about the numbers I expect, but
- 14:08Speaker 5: it's still a little staggering to see.
- 14:11Speaker 3: That actual response.
- 14:12Speaker 5: And I'll also give the caveat that this is eighty
- 14:15Speaker 5: percent of readers it's impossible to pull like every Nats
- 14:18Speaker 5: fan casual to die hard. What I make of it
- 14:23Speaker 5: is that fans are frankly sick of the team not
- 14:27Speaker 5: investing in big league payroll. I think frankly that's the
- 14:31Speaker 5: biggest aspect of it, and they're tired of the losses.
- 14:35Speaker 5: You'll hear a lot of complaints from fans, whether it's
- 14:38Speaker 5: like walking around Nats Park or on social media or whatever,
- 14:44Speaker 5: and I think so many of them are a good
- 14:47Speaker 5: amount or about you know, maybe the cost of attending
- 14:49Speaker 5: game or things like that, but so much of it is, hey,
- 14:51Speaker 5: we want more money spent on the on field product,
- 14:55Speaker 5: and we're all. I'll give maybe the ownership groups some
- 14:59Speaker 5: grace is that it's hard to look at what the
- 15:05Speaker 5: projections were coming into the season and say, hey, we're
- 15:09Speaker 5: gonna spend on big league payroll instead of we're going
- 15:12Speaker 5: to spend on the behind the scenes stuff that will
- 15:13Speaker 5: help us for years down the line. And I think
- 15:16Speaker 5: they actually did spend a lot of that stuff in
- 15:18Speaker 5: terms of spending on coaching at the player development level,
- 15:22Speaker 5: spending on you know, getting more people in the front office,
- 15:25Speaker 5: modernizing things, adding technology, all that stuff. While it's probably overdue.
- 15:32Speaker 5: I do think they deserve maybe some credit for doing
- 15:35Speaker 5: that this offseason, but so much of it is Hey,
- 15:37Speaker 5: like fans are sick of watching a team that hasn't
- 15:40Speaker 5: won more than seventy one games since the World Series,
- 15:44Speaker 5: hasn't spent big on a guy in a long time,
- 15:49Speaker 5: and spent you know, they paid zacly Tel, Miles, Michael List,
- 15:53Speaker 5: and Foster Griffin this offseason, and that was basically it.
- 15:57Speaker 5: I think they look at this as a roster that
- 15:59Speaker 5: should get rein forced with a large enough fan base
- 16:04Speaker 5: and a large enough market, but you should be spending
- 16:07Speaker 5: that money getting veterans around these guys. But Jason Worth
- 16:10Speaker 5: deal always gets brought up, like I think it. You know,
- 16:14Speaker 5: however you might view that deal, I think it's absolutely
- 16:17Speaker 5: valuable to get another VET in there, and I think
- 16:20Speaker 5: they blame ownership for that more than anyone else. So
- 16:23Speaker 5: while I don't necessarily know that I'm surprised by the results,
- 16:27Speaker 5: I absolutely think that it's meaningful in the sense that
- 16:30Speaker 5: that's where fans frustrations lie the most. So yeah, I'm
- 16:34Speaker 5: curious maybe a year ago if you would have seen
- 16:37Speaker 5: the same answers, But yeah, right now that that kind
- 16:42Speaker 5: of is where the pulse of the fan base is at.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Another one that you had here was you know, how
- 16:47Speaker 1: does your overall confidence in the organization compared to how
- 16:50Speaker 1: you felt at this time last year? And a lot
- 16:52Speaker 1: of people are feeling optimistic, as you can see from
- 16:54Speaker 1: the results there. But this one was also really interesting
- 16:57Speaker 1: to me. What should the Nationals acquire at the trade deadline?
- 17:00Speaker 1: We've talked about this on the show a little bit,
- 17:03Speaker 1: and obviously the trade deadline is a long way away,
- 17:07Speaker 1: but most Gnats fans said, hey, we need veteran pitching
- 17:10Speaker 1: on this staff, and Franny, you know, we've had other
- 17:14Speaker 1: thoughts on that before that they're not necessarily gonna be
- 17:17Speaker 1: buyers at this deadline. And one of the results there
- 17:20Speaker 1: that I probably would have selected as a Nats fan
- 17:23Speaker 1: is bolstering the prospects. Do you kind of feel like
- 17:25Speaker 1: they're going to be in the same position here at
- 17:27Speaker 1: the deadline?
- 17:28Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, uh, you tried it.
- 17:31Speaker 4: Part of this is deconditioning the fan a little bit,
- 17:34Speaker 4: right from the old ways and the thought processes in
- 17:37Speaker 4: like one week of hot you know, baseball in the
- 17:42Speaker 4: in the farm system by a prospect doesn't mean you
- 17:44Speaker 4: get called up to another level like master stuff. We
- 17:48Speaker 4: haven't seen people master a you know, our league in years.
- 17:54Speaker 3: You know, anytime.
- 17:55Speaker 4: Anybody's got hit, it's like movem up, move up, moom up. Well,
- 17:57Speaker 4: same thing goes here. You gotta get into the way
- 18:03Speaker 4: of what Paul to Pony and Devin Pearson and Justin
- 18:06Speaker 4: Horwitz are are going about this in the player developments
- 18:09Speaker 4: that with Annie, right, is like these guys need to
- 18:12Speaker 4: get better. They're they're hitting their you know, thresholds for now,
- 18:16Speaker 4: but we need to continue that on and keep getting them.
- 18:18Speaker 3: That's true development, right.
- 18:20Speaker 4: It's not about just get hot and then next thing
- 18:22Speaker 4: you know, you're up in the next level.
- 18:24Speaker 3: No master things.
- 18:25Speaker 4: You got to master what we're trying to get you
- 18:27Speaker 4: to do and hit our goals. I think the same
- 18:29Speaker 4: thing goes when it you know, think about like these
- 18:32Speaker 4: type of things like why would you want to start
- 18:34Speaker 4: a veteran starting pitcher right now?
- 18:35Speaker 3: Like what is the point?
- 18:37Speaker 4: Like tell me the true point, like because that's how
- 18:39Speaker 4: it used to be. Like to me, that's where the
- 18:42Speaker 4: fan needs to understand that there is a new thought
- 18:45Speaker 4: process and it is it is right to have your thought.
- 18:49Speaker 3: But also.
- 18:52Speaker 4: Be a little bit understanding that things are going to
- 18:54Speaker 4: be different and it's going to take some time on
- 18:56Speaker 4: certain things.
- 18:57Speaker 3: I get it.
- 18:58Speaker 4: I get the frustration part, but we also have to
- 19:01Speaker 4: understand that like there's a there's a process, there is
- 19:04Speaker 4: a direction. We are seeing the direction. We were definitely
- 19:08Speaker 4: seeing the direction on the Bigley side, but like even
- 19:10Speaker 4: Miley sided with almost six hundred WINNI percentage.
- 19:13Speaker 3: As a whole, which is insane.
- 19:15Speaker 4: Yeah, there's things that are happening, and just stick with it,
- 19:19Speaker 4: and it's a it's a part of it. You get,
- 19:20Speaker 4: you rush it and you do you know, you go
- 19:23Speaker 4: after a veteran starter in during the traded line for
- 19:27Speaker 4: what what reason?
- 19:31Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 19:32Speaker 5: Yeah that ultimately, Yeah, Well the thing is, and I
- 19:36Speaker 5: don't blame fans in any sort of sense because again,
- 19:39Speaker 5: I know it's been hard to watch a team win
- 19:43Speaker 5: sixty six seventy one games year after year. But I
- 19:46Speaker 5: think when you think big picture, that gets you what
- 19:49Speaker 5: maybe two or three extra wins in a second half
- 19:52Speaker 5: where you're probably already out of it, and yes, you
- 19:55Speaker 5: maybe see slightly more compelling baseball, but you're you're never
- 19:59Speaker 5: really exactly sure what you're going to get out of
- 20:01Speaker 5: a guy whereas when you take maybe the longer approach,
- 20:05Speaker 5: and yet it might sting to do that, you're setting
- 20:08Speaker 5: yourself up more for twenty twenty eight to twenty thirty
- 20:12Speaker 5: eight as opposed to twenty twenty six to twenty twenty eight.
- 20:16Speaker 5: And much like Franny, you know, like it might seem
- 20:19Speaker 5: like for a few seconds something goes away or you
- 20:22Speaker 5: you know, you just you feel like you're.
- 20:24Speaker 3: Maybe just trying to help you out in the short term.
- 20:27Speaker 5: Yeah, you might miss something in the short term, but
- 20:30Speaker 5: over the long haul, you're really setting yourself up where
- 20:34Speaker 5: you know, I know it's hard to think about twenty
- 20:36Speaker 5: thirty one, but like you might acquire a couple of
- 20:40Speaker 5: prospects who are the same caliber of big league starter
- 20:43Speaker 5: then as opposed to getting one for a few months
- 20:46Speaker 5: and then letting things go. So again, while I understand
- 20:50Speaker 5: the fan perspective, that's kind of my thought process throughout
- 20:54Speaker 5: all of that.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Yeah, the final question in that survey that was really
- 20:58Speaker 1: interesting to me too. He was if you were allowed
- 21:01Speaker 1: to put one twenty twenty five free agent and their contract,
- 21:04Speaker 1: which you included there, who would you pick? And most
- 21:06Speaker 1: people obviously gravit toward it towards the starting pitching department,
- 21:10Speaker 1: Dylan Cees, Ranger Swarez, and Framer Valdez the top results
- 21:13Speaker 1: and then Pete Alonzo and that was surprising, kind of
- 21:17Speaker 1: surprising to me with the results he's been having this.
- 21:18Speaker 3: Where would you have gone, Spencer.
- 21:20Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have gone cease, But honestly, and this
- 21:24Speaker 5: is one where I don't even know if I'm right.
- 21:27Speaker 5: But on the position player side, I think Schwarbro would
- 21:29Speaker 5: have been a really interesting one.
- 21:31Speaker 3: That was mine, that would be my number one, and
- 21:33Speaker 3: it walked me through that.
- 21:36Speaker 4: Uh, it gives you that adult in the room that
- 21:38Speaker 4: we're we've been talking about.
- 21:39Speaker 3: And plus the five year deal.
- 21:41Speaker 4: A one year deal for a veteran player doesn't do
- 21:43Speaker 4: much for a voice.
- 21:47Speaker 3: We've talked about this a lot on air, and it
- 21:50Speaker 3: is one that you want.
- 21:53Speaker 4: You look, Schwerber wouldn't have come back, not because he
- 21:55Speaker 4: didn't like watching him. He wants to win, right like
- 21:57Speaker 4: in the moment, but like you want to see something built,
- 21:59Speaker 4: you got to have people to show the way and
- 22:02Speaker 4: lead the way, and someone that could be a leader.
- 22:05Speaker 4: With Blake and his coaching staff, now we have found
- 22:08Speaker 4: out that guys are listening.
- 22:10Speaker 3: Number one, right like that's there's no problem on that.
- 22:15Speaker 4: But you just sent someone that is so confident what
- 22:18Speaker 4: he does and the plan he has, and it could
- 22:20Speaker 4: set the tone for so many different things. That's what
- 22:24Speaker 4: you need, you know, at the end of the day,
- 22:27Speaker 4: there's too many young guys that are having to be
- 22:30Speaker 4: leaders that aren't leaders yet. You can become a leader
- 22:34Speaker 4: over time. And I feel like he would have solidified
- 22:37Speaker 4: that well hardly. But all the other ones, I'm gonna
- 22:40Speaker 4: be honest, I wouldn't have done anyways, not with not
- 22:44Speaker 4: with what the direction is of this friend.
- 22:46Speaker 3: There's a direction. He is the only.
- 22:49Speaker 4: One I would have deviated a little bit from and
- 22:52Speaker 4: gone there because of the direction and the help and
- 22:55Speaker 4: what he could have done offensively too, I think would
- 22:58Speaker 4: be a huge help too.
- 23:00Speaker 1: James would yeah, especially I think if he was a
- 23:04Speaker 1: right handed bat. I obviously we know he's not, and
- 23:07Speaker 1: he can hit lefties quite well. But the one thing
- 23:09Speaker 1: this offense I think is lacking right now is that
- 23:11Speaker 1: big power bat from the right side. And if if
- 23:13Speaker 1: there was just a way that they could carb and
- 23:15Speaker 1: copy that player and make him a right handed hitter,
- 23:20Speaker 1: if they can get.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Ahead of out technology.
- 23:22Speaker 1: But James Wood He's got some serious pop this play
- 23:25Speaker 1: last night, Frandy, you had a great call of it
- 23:27Speaker 1: in the booth. You look at the trajectory right here
- 23:29Speaker 1: for those of you watching online, that really looks like
- 23:31Speaker 1: it's gonna be a home run.
- 23:32Speaker 2: James slows up but saying it wha wait.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Then he realizes, wait, they're not calling this out, Like
- 23:39Speaker 1: what an interesting play?
- 23:40Speaker 2: You said? He hit it too hard for the ball
- 23:42Speaker 2: to get out.
- 23:44Speaker 4: You think about so ball was one twelve off the
- 23:46Speaker 4: bat and this is and I want like people think, oh,
- 23:48Speaker 4: you're just joker treaming.
- 23:49Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm not.
- 23:50Speaker 4: Like balls that usually hit off that wall aren't hit
- 23:54Speaker 4: at that.
- 23:54Speaker 3: That's that pace.
- 23:55Speaker 4: So you see the ball indense into the to the
- 23:58Speaker 4: padding and then just catapults out because it was hit
- 24:02Speaker 4: so hard. You think the software it goes it might
- 24:04Speaker 4: like actually hit and bounce over right, but it actually
- 24:09Speaker 4: gave because he hit so hard, it gave and just
- 24:12Speaker 4: went popped out. And it was like, damn, like I
- 24:19Speaker 4: watching him hit a.
- 24:20Speaker 3: Ball like that, though it is so beautiful.
- 24:23Speaker 4: I think opposing I know for a fact, I don't
- 24:26Speaker 4: think I know opposing managers and all they hate that
- 24:29Speaker 4: kind of thing, but they also marvel at it. Derek
- 24:31Speaker 4: Shelton being one of them. He's like, damn, that ball
- 24:34Speaker 4: was smoked right, Like that was a beautiful thing, because
- 24:38Speaker 4: you just love when guys can can swore something up
- 24:41Speaker 4: going that way. I just watching it in slow motion
- 24:45Speaker 4: and seeing that the fence just give and then pop out,
- 24:48Speaker 4: I'm like, Wow, he did hit it too hard.
- 24:51Speaker 3: That's that's hitting it too perfect.
- 24:54Speaker 1: It's one of the most interesting replay reviews I've ever
- 24:56Speaker 1: seen because you watch it in live speed and you're like, oh, yeah,
- 25:00Speaker 1: it kicked off the back carem there like right behind
- 25:03Speaker 1: the flowers, and the more you slow it down, you're like, wait, no,
- 25:06Speaker 1: the frames.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Because the fact that they did injected that hard.
- 25:10Speaker 4: Yeah, Like that's the part that like baffles me though,
- 25:12Speaker 4: because like that's it should have just like hit and
- 25:15Speaker 4: kind of like died down.
- 25:16Speaker 3: But it like, yeah, it was that was that was wild. Yeah. Yeah.
- 25:22Speaker 5: I was never very good at physics, but that one
- 25:24Speaker 5: surprised me.
- 25:26Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I don't know.
- 25:28Speaker 1: I mean, Spencer, what I h what what did you
- 25:30Speaker 1: see up in the press fox? Because I mean the
- 25:32Speaker 1: ball is way above Like I did you just think
- 25:38Speaker 1: too quickly?
- 25:39Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 25:39Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I mean it looked out.
- 25:42Speaker 5: I'll say that is that I And this is funny.
- 25:45Speaker 5: I was talking to Grant Paulson, I think on the
- 25:49Speaker 5: first hard hit James fly out, and he said, oh,
- 25:53Speaker 5: he's due, he'll get you. You know, you've seen James do
- 25:55Speaker 5: this before where he misses the barrel by like three
- 25:59Speaker 5: centimeters and then one goes out and I think a
- 26:01Speaker 5: strikeout might have followed. And then he made that contact
- 26:03Speaker 5: as soon as he hit it. I was already inclined
- 26:05Speaker 5: to I was started typing up my tweet James Wood
- 26:07Speaker 5: home run number eleven or whatever it is. It's one
- 26:11Speaker 5: of those balls that you think just goes out. You
- 26:13Speaker 5: hear it, you think it goes out. Yeah, he's just
- 26:16Speaker 5: too strong. I don't know what's sick like, Yeah, next
- 26:18Speaker 5: time I'm getting the air Moore.
- 26:19Speaker 1: James and reminded me like a Desi home run back
- 26:22Speaker 1: in the day too, like those low line drive home
- 26:24Speaker 1: runs that Desmond could just shoot out.
- 26:26Speaker 3: I'm like that, Wait, you know what's crazy?
- 26:28Speaker 1: Is that?
- 26:28Speaker 3: Like that? You think that?
- 26:30Speaker 4: Like Baron Buckson hit his eleven last night and his
- 26:34Speaker 4: was at one O three at forty one degrees right
- 26:37Speaker 4: last night was one twelve. I think at twenty three
- 26:39Speaker 4: or twenty Yeah, something like that. I mean, and that
- 26:43Speaker 4: one doesn't go out.
- 26:43Speaker 3: You're like.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Maybe in July even the air gets a little warmer.
- 26:49Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I after this, after this Denver
- 26:52Speaker 4: thing that's going on with their games, and how much
- 26:54Speaker 4: snow they've gotten here in May, like you talk about
- 26:58Speaker 4: like a subdued like sie go to my ole party
- 27:01Speaker 4: out there.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Yeah, no, wrong at all.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Well, A're gonna take a quick break here, I mean,
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- 27:31Speaker 1: close last night, but Franny, who do you think is
- 27:34Speaker 1: going y'ah tonight?
- 27:37Speaker 3: Ooh Bailey over on the mount. Uh. You know I'm
- 27:43Speaker 3: gonna go. It's gonna be a crazy one.
- 27:48Speaker 2: C J Abrams c J Abras that is up there.
- 27:52Speaker 3: That's mind blind blowing.
- 27:53Speaker 2: Spencer. You got any picks for tonight?
- 27:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll pick the easy one.
- 27:57Speaker 5: I think we've seen James come up just short of
- 28:00Speaker 5: homer before and then follow with whatever three and five games.
- 28:04Speaker 5: I'm gonna play the percentages on this one and not
- 28:07Speaker 5: try to overthink it like Franny.
- 28:09Speaker 3: I mean, how many homers of CJ hit this year?
- 28:11Speaker 3: Only eight?
- 28:12Speaker 5: Like, come on, I was just trying to like get
- 28:14Speaker 5: that drama in there.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Well, I mean, CJ is an excellent pick, but I think,
- 28:19Speaker 1: like you said, play the numbers, James is due. He
- 28:21Speaker 1: was hitting all those home runs on pace for what
- 28:23Speaker 1: like fifty plus and then it's been what ten game
- 28:26Speaker 1: homerless drought here.
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- 29:03Speaker 2: All right, and we are back.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Guys got the Twins for two more and I think
- 29:08Speaker 1: we're even up identical records now right, both sixteen and twenty.
- 29:13Speaker 2: I believe that should be the Twins.
- 29:14Speaker 3: By the way, Todds Bradley is filthy.
- 29:17Speaker 1: I was gonna say I should have this is a
- 29:19Speaker 1: Nats podcast, but I could have put some Todge Bradley's
- 29:21Speaker 1: stats in here today. I mean, that was slicing and DIY.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Sometimes you have one to understand.
- 29:28Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the easy one to understand, like when
- 29:30Speaker 4: someone struggles or like you just just watch that out
- 29:33Speaker 4: and you'll you'll get it.
- 29:34Speaker 1: You had a great call last night. You said, I
- 29:36Speaker 1: think he might be leading the league in foul balls?
- 29:39Speaker 3: Was it? Is it?
- 29:39Speaker 2: Or was I that was?
- 29:40Speaker 3: That? Was?
- 29:41Speaker 2: That was nos too?
- 29:43Speaker 1: Or two strike foul balls and dods Just having that
- 29:45Speaker 1: crazy about you said two strike foul balls because because.
- 29:47Speaker 4: This stuff is so gross, man Like, that's the part
- 29:50Speaker 4: that you watch with guys like this and you're like,
- 29:52Speaker 4: how is it? Because look we saw it with Mackenzie,
- 29:55Speaker 4: Like the nastier you are, the hard is a square
- 29:57Speaker 4: up and it's like you don't have like, I don't
- 30:01Speaker 4: know it. He just he's he's had two unbelievable starts
- 30:05Speaker 4: against the Nats and in his last two dating back
- 30:09Speaker 4: to twenty four So I mean it's what nineteen twenty
- 30:11Speaker 4: strikeouts in eleven innings something like that.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude's gross, filthy stuff. I would not want
- 30:18Speaker 1: to get in the box against him.
- 30:20Speaker 3: Pretty good trade for them, I would say, I.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Think it's gonna work out all right, quite all right
- 30:25Speaker 1: for them. But Spencer, you know what, do you think
- 30:28Speaker 1: the Keys are going to be tonight? Obviously the Twins
- 30:30Speaker 1: have those power bats, But you know what will the
- 30:33Speaker 1: Nats seem to do right in the next two to
- 30:35Speaker 1: try and pick up at least one game here and
- 30:37Speaker 1: potentially get to and win the series.
- 30:40Speaker 5: Yeah, it's more of what we were talking about before
- 30:42Speaker 5: in terms of keeping the name close and hoping that
- 30:44Speaker 5: in the final innings, you can break through.
- 30:48Speaker 3: Beyond that.
- 30:49Speaker 5: Again, I think I want to see the let's say Dalen.
- 30:52Speaker 5: I think that Dalen has had some good at bats
- 30:55Speaker 5: the last couple of games, and the Nats have kind
- 30:57Speaker 5: of missed having a third and four guy in the
- 31:01Speaker 5: lineup who can do damage over the last two weeks
- 31:04Speaker 5: or so. I think if Dalen and maybe one other
- 31:09Speaker 5: guy Curtis has also played well, if those guys can
- 31:13Speaker 5: give you a lift that maybe you haven't gotten over
- 31:16Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks, and you can make this
- 31:18Speaker 5: a five, three or even a six or four game
- 31:22Speaker 5: heading into the sixth inning, I think you're perfectly comfortable
- 31:24Speaker 5: as the Nats closing this one out or even getting
- 31:27Speaker 5: on top of if you're trailing. So yeah, I'll be
- 31:30Speaker 5: watching Dalen pretty closely tonight and see if that success
- 31:33Speaker 5: can move forward, because again, the Nats have struggled against
- 31:36Speaker 5: right handed pitching this year, which is not something I
- 31:38Speaker 5: would have expected, and so if they can beat up
- 31:41Speaker 5: on a rity, and if Dalen can do it in particular,
- 31:44Speaker 5: I'll be very encouraged.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Franny, I want to get your thoughts too, but I
- 31:48Speaker 1: have a feeling I don't want to speak on your behalf.
- 31:50Speaker 1: But I know how this might start taking care of
- 31:52Speaker 1: the baseball, especially after last night we got a field.
- 31:56Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's usually number one. But I would I
- 31:59Speaker 3: would go right with Spence on this one.
- 32:02Speaker 4: I think Dalen Is is a bigger need for him
- 32:05Speaker 4: to get going, uh, because of his athleticism, not only
- 32:09Speaker 4: like just his great bat right, like his ability to
- 32:13Speaker 4: drive the ball, to hit just hit in general. But
- 32:16Speaker 4: you add his speed on the bases and and and
- 32:19Speaker 4: you know, yes, he gets thrown out a few times
- 32:20Speaker 4: here and there, but I don't care. He's got chaos.
- 32:23Speaker 4: Chaos is involved with him when he's on there, and
- 32:26Speaker 4: he needs he needs to be there. And in adding that,
- 32:28Speaker 4: we saw like we're seeing it with Nas, we're seeing
- 32:30Speaker 4: it with CJ.
- 32:31Speaker 3: The more that they're on, the more chaos.
- 32:33Speaker 4: There's a lot of good things that happen with those guys,
- 32:35Speaker 4: especially on bass.
- 32:37Speaker 2: Yeah, chaos on.
- 32:38Speaker 1: The base paths often creates good things. In my opinion,
- 32:42Speaker 1: my call is just going to be Curtis Mead, stay hot,
- 32:44Speaker 1: Curtis Meat. As we know, Luis Garcia is still day
- 32:46Speaker 1: to day with a minor right hand wrist brain nothing.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Two theories going on there but he had a great
- 32:51Speaker 1: game last night, Mead that is, and I'd love to
- 32:54Speaker 1: see him do it again. So stay hot there anything
- 32:56Speaker 1: you guys want to add before we take off.
- 32:58Speaker 3: No, he's been a surprise that I don't even a surprise.
- 33:00Speaker 4: I've known him since he was in Philly before the
- 33:03Speaker 4: Philly has traded him for Christopher Sanchez, and uh, the
- 33:07Speaker 4: same guy. Guy competes, man, that guy competes. There's a
- 33:11Speaker 4: lot of guys on like now, I'm not gonna say
- 33:13Speaker 4: it's actually surprising me. There's a lot of guys that
- 33:16Speaker 4: compete on this team, and I know people don't see
- 33:18Speaker 4: it because it wins and losses on certain things. The
- 33:21Speaker 4: Abats are a hell of a lot better than they've
- 33:22Speaker 4: been and they fight and they keep going and that's
- 33:25Speaker 4: a good thing.
- 33:26Speaker 3: Good to happen.
- 33:27Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's guys who have either had to fight
- 33:29Speaker 5: for a roster spot or who have to fight to
- 33:32Speaker 5: make sure that the Nats aren't seen as a secondary
- 33:36Speaker 5: rebuilding too. Like, I think all this stuff is on
- 33:38Speaker 5: their shoulders, and I think they're you know the fact
- 33:40Speaker 5: that they're doing it now is great. If they're doing
- 33:42Speaker 5: it in August and September as well, I mean that's
- 33:45Speaker 5: you could see a surprising Nats team this year, That's
- 33:47Speaker 5: all I say.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I like the term professional hitter. Curtis
- 33:52Speaker 1: just that that base knock professional hitting right there. But
- 33:56Speaker 1: we'll be back on Friday recapping the rest of the
- 33:58Speaker 1: Twins series and previous the rest of the home stand.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Until then, you guys, have fun at the ballpark tonight
- 34:04Speaker 1: and we'll see you in the next one.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Peace.