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Angels cell phone ban, Phillies sue analytics company, Shapiro on Vladdy Jr. talks, Mayo’s comments · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: He's just back the Blue Jays into a corner where
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  Speaker 1: they're like, man, because when you when do you ever
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  Speaker 1: hear a team come out and say, well, I think
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna sign him because we align. That is what
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: v like Guerrero said. He said, y'all didn't align because
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  Speaker 1: if you guys aligned, you already would have had a
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  Speaker 1: deal done.
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  Speaker 2: This is it, This is it camp? Has the trip been?
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  Speaker 1: I've had a ball, man.
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  Speaker 3: I can't tell you, guys how much fun I've had
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  Speaker 3: out here.
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  Speaker 4: Some good juju, some good vibes, Tiger's Camp, Twins Camp,
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  Speaker 4: Red Sox Camp.
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  Speaker 3: But I tell you, walking here today, the Braves are hungry.
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  Speaker 3: They've got a little.
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  Speaker 4: Bit of chip, a little sense of urgency making the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs last year, as banged up as they were, It's
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  Speaker 4: been a fun trip.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: They got profile late in the offseason. AJ, but you
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  Speaker 2: know they didn't go crazy this offseason. Do you feel
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  Speaker 2: like we're not talking about the Braves enough? Ken Rosenthal
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  Speaker 2: said that on Fair Territory that just aired.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've talked about him a lot. The problem
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  Speaker 1: I have is they didn't do a ton, and you
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  Speaker 1: look the other teams in their division. The Mets got
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  Speaker 1: all the hype bringing back Alonso sign in one, so
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  Speaker 1: doom making the pitching moves they made. I think the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies are still the Phillies and they're always going to
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  Speaker 1: get hype as long as you have Harper and Turner
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  Speaker 1: and Nola and Wheeler. And they went out and got
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  Speaker 1: Lozardo and some other guys. So I think I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that we're not talking about him enough. I just
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  Speaker 1: think we've got to wait and see with their health
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  Speaker 1: situation where they're at once opening day hits and once
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  Speaker 1: we get into it, because you know, when you look
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  Speaker 1: at this roster, there's not a lot of depth. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that there's a ton of depth in this roster.
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  Speaker 1: And they've already taken some hits. So yes, when they
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  Speaker 1: get Strider back and you have Striders, Sale, Lopez, Schwellenbach
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  Speaker 1: and whoever the fifth guy is, yeah, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a nice rotation. The bullpen should be all right. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, is there going to be any more injury
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  Speaker 1: hits like Acuna last year, like Murphy already this year?
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see, yep, yep, good call. All right, So
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  Speaker 2: let's recap what we did spring training wise, and then
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  Speaker 2: we'll get into the top topic. This is it. You
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  Speaker 2: can see the spring training calendar. We go back to
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  Speaker 2: the twenty fourth of February. We started with the Orioles
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  Speaker 2: in Sarasota. If you're listening podwise later on, then I
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  Speaker 2: encourage you to check out the calendar because it's complete.
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  Speaker 2: Good month, great job by the crew behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: Mark and everyone else that was on the road, hustling
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  Speaker 2: early mornings, the whole deal. So we'll finish strong with
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  Speaker 2: Braid's camp. It'll include combos with Chris Sale, manager Brian Snicker,
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  Speaker 2: and some others as well. And then tomorrow we're back
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  Speaker 2: to like a normal show, getting ready for opening day
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  Speaker 2: next week, and we'll have more information on where we'll
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  Speaker 2: be for opening Day next week as well. But let's
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  Speaker 2: charge right now, charge about well, this is a fun
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  Speaker 2: topic to start the day. Rtt Bolander, who covers the Angels,
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  Speaker 2: puts this out yesterday. The Angels instituted a new rule
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  Speaker 2: this season with players not allowed to be on their
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  Speaker 2: cell phones at their lockers. Ron Washington, their skipper, said
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  Speaker 2: he did it so the players would interact with each
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  Speaker 2: other more and Bond Mike Trout and Zach Netto both
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  Speaker 2: said it has worked out great so far. Cam do
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  Speaker 2: you like this idea?
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  Speaker 4: I actually love it, Scotty, because when you think about it,
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  Speaker 4: when I think about it, you know now that the
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  Speaker 4: time that we're in the phone can be such a distraction.
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  Speaker 4: And when I think about the most successful teams that
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  Speaker 4: I've been a part of, there was so much interaction,
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  Speaker 4: there was so much chemistry. Guys really took time to
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  Speaker 4: get to know each other, to have conversations, to you know,
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  Speaker 4: talk about and value what it takes to get a
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  Speaker 4: win in the big League.
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  Speaker 3: So at times with so.
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  Speaker 4: Many distractions, you know, Twitter, Instagram, social media, personal life,
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  Speaker 4: things going on. I think that's a great aspect to add.
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  Speaker 4: And he's not telling you to put it down all days,
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  Speaker 4: just saying, not at your locker.
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  Speaker 3: Right when you're at your locker.
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  Speaker 4: Take time communicate, talk about how things are going at home,
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  Speaker 4: personal stuff, baseball stuff, whatever it may be. So I
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  Speaker 4: think what he's doing, and I think that's why Ron
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  Speaker 4: has been such a good leader of men for so
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  Speaker 4: many years. You've always heard nothing but great things about
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  Speaker 4: Roun Watching and his leadership. This is just another example
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  Speaker 4: of him doing what he can for the organization to
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  Speaker 4: be a much better place than last year, and chemistry
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  Speaker 4: goes a long way.
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  Speaker 3: It does.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of disagree with this one, but I see
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  Speaker 1: why I Wash did it and haven't played for Washing.
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  Speaker 1: He's big into into relationships and I get it. But
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  Speaker 1: to me, I mean, we're grown man at that point.
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I played I was forty years old.
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  Speaker 1: Cam like, I'm forty years old. I want to what
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  Speaker 1: happens if my kid has something come up or you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it's like I don't know your own time. If
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  Speaker 1: I'm facing into my locker and I'm on my phone, Like,
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  Speaker 1: why does it matter what I'm doing? As long as
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to play the game? I think. I think
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  Speaker 1: this is one of those things that you're just like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try something different to sound different. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, and you know what, I'm having My
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  Speaker 1: crowd and Jack Natto are on board for this, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I'm a grown man.
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  Speaker 1: I should be able to do what I want as
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  Speaker 1: long as I'm ready at seven oh five, when that
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  Speaker 1: first pitch is thrown, I mean, that's all that matters.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you build chemistry by on the field and
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  Speaker 1: off the fields by going to dinner.
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  Speaker 3: You don't.
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  Speaker 1: You don't build chemistry though, by I don't know, by
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  Speaker 1: sitting there talking to because guys aren't in their locker
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  Speaker 1: or a lot. So I mean, I get when you're
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  Speaker 1: in your locker, but how much your guys really in
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  Speaker 1: the locker really like on the training table? Did he
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  Speaker 1: ban it in the weight room when guys have their
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  Speaker 1: headphones in and they're listening to their music, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like in your locker. I don't know, cool Tory, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I thought you're gonna say, why are we not talking
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  Speaker 4: about getting some pitching. I thought that's what I thought
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: I get they could have bought some pitching.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's what I thought you're gonna say. Were worried
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  Speaker 4: about the wrong things. But I do, I do understand
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  Speaker 4: what Watch is trying to do.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do too, But I mean, at the same time, again,
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  Speaker 1: it still goes back. You know, Cam, you're grown man.
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  Speaker 1: I could do whatever. You know, guys should be able
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  Speaker 1: to do whatever I want as long as I'm responsible,
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  Speaker 1: as long as I'm not costing the team games by
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  Speaker 1: sitting there on my phone. I don't know in times
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  Speaker 1: of changes, kids grew up on their phone with camp.
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  Speaker 1: Don't give me this about your phone crap because you
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  Speaker 1: were just on your phone, working on for an hour
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  Speaker 1: to get your TikTok up and running.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking you couldn't monetize the Twitter if you
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  Speaker 1: weren't on your phone making tiktoks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay updated with the times AJ.
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  Speaker 4: Unlike some of you older guys update your iPhone, you
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  Speaker 4: gotta update yourself as well.
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  Speaker 3: So don't blame me because I'm trying to stay cool.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, just because I had an iPhone one,
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  Speaker 1: don't be mad at me.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think there are some pissed off players? Right?
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  Speaker 2: We talked about Trout and Netto being happy with it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you Obviously we're probably not going to hear the
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  Speaker 2: other side of this, but do you think there are
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  Speaker 2: any players, especially a veteran that goes to wash and says,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this is false hustle like a Travis
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  Speaker 2: Darnaut say that goes up and says, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sitting here on social media scrolling all day long.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to text my family and say hi
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  Speaker 2: and whatever else, and the time for me to do
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  Speaker 2: that actually is at my lockers. So I feel like
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  Speaker 2: we're able to do both things. Do you feel like
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  Speaker 2: that would be a problem for anyone? And they would
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  Speaker 2: actually say something like Cam, do you think you know
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  Speaker 2: if someone was on the other side, or actually, Cam,
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  Speaker 2: we should start with Aj since he disagrees. Right, So
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  Speaker 2: let's say AJ's on the team. Okay, would you go
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  Speaker 2: and sit down with Wash be like wsh, I've been
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  Speaker 2: in the league for whatever amount of years, and try
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  Speaker 2: and convince him that this is not necessarily the right move.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what I would have said. I would have liked
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  Speaker 1: it better if you weren't on your cell phone when
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  Speaker 1: you're not in your locker, Like in your locker's your
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  Speaker 1: own time. Your locker's your own space, Like you get
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  Speaker 1: a little three foot covey that you put your shoes
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  Speaker 1: and your jocks, draw and everything in. Right, that's my
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  Speaker 1: own space. But when I'm in other areas, then I
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  Speaker 1: would say, let's have no cell phone policy, because then
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  Speaker 1: you really got to talk to each other. Now, would
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  Speaker 1: that lead to everybody sitting in their locker? Maybe, but
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  Speaker 1: a lot you know, guys got to go to the
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  Speaker 1: weight room, Guys got to go to the training room,
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  Speaker 1: Guys got to go eat. That's when you want guys
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  Speaker 1: to talk to each other when they're in the locker.
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  Speaker 1: When I'm putting on my underwear, I don't need anybody
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  Speaker 1: talking to me. I'm looking at my phone because I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what, you know, my family's doing,
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  Speaker 1: what's this happening. So I think it would have been cool.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he said only in your locker, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it'd be cool if you had it where there
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  Speaker 1: was no cell phone policy outside your locker.
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  Speaker 3: I'll actually is more much as I hate to do it.
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  Speaker 4: When I first actually heard this yesterday, my first inclination
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  Speaker 4: was was exactly what AJ said. I almost would make
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  Speaker 4: sense more if you just like you don't have it
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  Speaker 4: around the clubhouse, like walking around the clubhouse with your
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  Speaker 4: head down like this, But it made more sense at
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  Speaker 4: the locker. So as much as I hate too, I
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  Speaker 4: actually do agree with AJ. I think that in my
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  Speaker 4: head would have made a little bit more sense because
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  Speaker 4: when we were walking around, we need to be a
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: eyes up, a larry maybe communicating. But at the locker,
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  Speaker 4: it seems like that would have been a better spot
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  Speaker 4: for it to be. Okay, So I actually agree with AJ.
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  Speaker 4: I think that would have worked out a lot more,
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: but to as your answer your question, Scotty right now
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  Speaker 4: and we And that was a great hypothetical.
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  Speaker 3: AJ could do that, But there's only one.
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  Speaker 4: Guy in that clubhouse right now that could go to
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  Speaker 4: Washington ask anything, and that's Mike Trout. So anybody else, Yay,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta respect Wash. You gotta respect his wishes, his
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  Speaker 4: time around the game. But I do agree with AJ.
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  Speaker 4: I think it would have been made more sense to be,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to be where hey, you can have it
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  Speaker 4: at your locker, walking around a clubhouse, calf whatever, like
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  Speaker 4: let's let's talk, let's be around.
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  Speaker 3: Each other a little bit more. I think that would
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  Speaker 3: have made a little bit more sinse.
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  Speaker 2: So AJ, give me the dynamic of what the clubhouse
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  Speaker 2: is like and where people spend most of their time
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  Speaker 2: so that fans can understand how this works. So they
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: go to their locker now, right, they grab their cell phone,
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  Speaker 2: and then they go to the cafeteria, say, to text
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  Speaker 2: their friends or to check social media. How is this
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  Speaker 2: going to play out? All?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So this is this is how I mean. I've been
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse in a while, but I still walk
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: in there every weekend with Fox to do to talk
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  Speaker 1: to guys, Right, guys in spring training, Camel tell you
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  Speaker 1: he's in the locker room. In spring training, guys walk
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  Speaker 1: to their locker, they put their clothes on, and then
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  Speaker 1: they walk out and they go to the weight room,
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  Speaker 1: They go to the food room, they go to the
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: training room. They go outside to do something wherever it is.
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  Speaker 1: But guess what they have in their pocket. Their cell
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: phone are in their hand. Every guy you see walk around, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm my cell phone right here. Guys are like this,
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  Speaker 1: Oh hey, oh almost rento that wall, Oh almost ran
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  Speaker 1: into you. Right, That's just the way things are, and
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  Speaker 1: that's fine. That's the way everyone was raised and that's
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  Speaker 1: the way the world has become. Walk around a street
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  Speaker 1: of a city, everybody's on their phone looking down like this,
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  Speaker 1: So what am I to do? Who am I? Texan?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So they come to their locker, they go, they put
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  Speaker 1: their clothes on, they grab their phone. They go into
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: the other rooms, they do their stuff. They're around the
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  Speaker 1: other people. They come back to their locker. Everyone's gone.
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  Speaker 1: They take a shower, put their uniform on, go play
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  Speaker 1: the game. Come back. I mean they're only at their
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  Speaker 1: locker for a minute. So to take it away at
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  Speaker 1: their locker. I mean, okay, cool, but that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You should take it away from all the other places
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  Speaker 1: because the other places are where most of the players
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  Speaker 1: spend their times. Guy, you've been in locker rooms. Guys
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  Speaker 1: are never in their locker when you need them. I
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  Speaker 1: need to talk to this guy. They're not on their locker,
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  Speaker 1: that's what. Damn sure you can't find them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're always joking on the media side that guys
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  Speaker 2: are hiding or they know when the media is in there.
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  Speaker 2: You know this cam, It wasn't you guys. Obviously, that's
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  Speaker 2: why you're on a show like this, But can there
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: were some guys that knew exactly when the media was
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  Speaker 2: allowed in and then as soon as they walked out,
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  Speaker 2: Because sometimes I would be the last person to walk out.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: I would see certain players walk out of a particular
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: area to then resume their day and that's fine. I
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  Speaker 2: mean they don't want to talk that day or ever,
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  Speaker 2: and so they avoid people.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely right, And one hundred percent guys are looking
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  Speaker 4: at that watch going okay, media time doors open at
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  Speaker 4: this time, close at this time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go get all my work in while
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  Speaker 3: the media is there. AJ is absolutely right.
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  Speaker 4: So again AJ's point of view, as much as I
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: hate to say, AJ is one hundred percent right. There's
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  Speaker 4: so much more going on outside your locker opposed to
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: you know, like you said, you sitting down for a second,
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  Speaker 4: text your family, keep it moving, boom and boom. But
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  Speaker 4: guys are definitely checking that media slot to make sure
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  Speaker 4: they can get in and get out to avoid the media.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, hold on, no, don't forget this cam. You know this.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been around enough guys and you know I
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  Speaker 1: still them in the clubhouse. Usually around the locker rooms.
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  Speaker 1: Scott dudes are on their Twitter, dudes are on their institutes.
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  Speaker 1: You're on their all the time, Like, don't give me
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  Speaker 1: that you know only in their locker guys are always
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter and everything checking to see what's
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  Speaker 1: happening or especially like around trade deadline, the whole team's
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter looking to be like, oh man, you might
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: get traded, and you might get traded, like did you
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: know you're gonna get Mike Truck? You might be traded?
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  Speaker 1: Like it's crazy how much guys know because of social
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  Speaker 1: media and they're always on it is it a problem.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was.
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  Speaker 3: Ron thought it was.
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  Speaker 6: So maybe maybe that's all matters, right, Yeah, watching walk
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  Speaker 6: through too many times, you know what, you know, I
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  Speaker 6: only imagine too, I can imagine this is out the blue.
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  Speaker 4: I'm only I'm only assuming, right, I'm I respect to
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  Speaker 4: watch so much. I'm only assuming it was a case
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  Speaker 4: of of something where he's seen it too many times,
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  Speaker 4: where he's walked through his clubhouse and he's just going, man,
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  Speaker 4: we could be interacting a little bit more, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in my perspective, So I'm assuming something happened that made
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  Speaker 4: him want to change this.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: But again, I think it's all you know at it.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: It comes from a good place.
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: I think he's trying to just create a better chemistry
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: because at end of the day too, when you care
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: about your teammates, you play harder for the guy next
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: to you. So it all comes from a good place.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: But I think AJ has made a great point. Maybe
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: we need to maneuver a shift where you actually can
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: use the phone, because it would make more sense than
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: I have it. And like they just said, guys are
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: going to the dugout taking Instagram photos. Hey, we had
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: the new park and we're doing this and doing that.
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: It's like those things will make a little bit more sense.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Also. I mean, there are some players that right after
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: a game will immediately go check social media. And if
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: you have a good game, that's fun. If you have
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: a bad game, exactly, gosh, that's damaging. But that's their choice.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: How they grew up though, That's how they grew up.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: That's how these players grew up. It's not like they
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: didn't know what they were getting themselves into when they
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: signed up on social media. I never had social media.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I was playing because man, there would have been some
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: bad nights, long.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: Nights just sitting around aj Comy. Can you come watch
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: me tonight? I was on social media. I had a
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: bad game. I need you to come come monitor me tonight.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: I'm in a bad place.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you. Put your cell phone away and
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: don't look at social media. Don't have it because you
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: can do listen. Can We talked about this all the
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: time on the show. You can be do the best
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: thing in the world. You could do the best have
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: the greatest game in the world. You know, you go
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: five for five with five homers and one hundred RBIs
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: in this game, right, and there'll be one fan out
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: there that goes man, you could have had one hundred
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: and one RBIs and you'd be like, damn, he's right.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: You know what, there's always gonna be some fool out
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: there that's gonna hate on no matter what you do.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: As long as you know you did the best you
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: could and you're doing the right things, the rest us
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: all be us.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Hey, but let me ask this last thing to add
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: to this guy.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: But as we have having this conversation, I think the
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: biggest thing and the most important thing is.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: The Angels got a lot more issues than cell phones.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Let's just be honest, right, that's not going to you know,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: lead to more wins. There's no wins above replacement number.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Getting a boost from this? Hey, maybe wind out.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Hey, we'll find out. What if they go out and
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: win one hundred and sixty two games, Damn, they should
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: have taken them cell phones away ten years ago.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: And they'll be sweeping cell phones.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Maybe the pitching needs to put the cell phones down.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: That's what they need, a lot more, a lot better pitching.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Hey, if that works, they'll be they'll be implementing the
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: rule across the sport. But we'll see, it's a pretty
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: good division. Still, Kratz, what time is.
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  Speaker 2: for details. All right, we got two minutes till we're
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: coming back. AJ, did you have fun calling the Tokyo series.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I had a great time, other than the time of
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: day it was, but other than that, it was awesome. Listen,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the two games were great. They went about how you
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: would think the Dodgers are really good without Freddie and Mookie.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I saw what Cam said about Suzaki. I'm gonna wait
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and see because he's got one pitch, dude, I'm sorry, listen,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: he's got nasty pitch. You got a nasty split, but
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: no way, you never threw a first strike. He threw
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and he can't throw a split first strike. And you
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: know what the Cubs did, They're like, we ain't gonna
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: swing at it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: AJ, you call for a long time. Night of fact.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I think you are one of the most underrated catches
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: in the game. Did you not watch him throw a
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: pretty decent slider a few times first off his first outing,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: and you know, like, I know, all they got to
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: do is get that guy in the zone. War I
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: thought he knibbled a little bit too much. The stuff
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: plays and he's working on the third pinch. So I
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: hear you, I know you in person, but come on, man,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: you know good and will once.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: He gets comfortable.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I think they could have some something nice on their hands.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Yama models struggled this first outing to last year walk
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys. He kind of got it together.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: So I think he's gonna be okay.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I said what I said, I said, wait and see,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: wait and see. I said, wait, like that slider you
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: saw with the ones you threw the match y'all who
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: looked like you'd never seen a slider before them slaters.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Don't blame mats show. That's three pitches. I counted three pitches.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I know it's one start. Do we think he's going
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to be a star or not? Thumbs up, He's gonna be.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be, He's gonna be good. I think you
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: just got to figure it out. But I'm I'm like
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this right now, I'm leaning up, but I'm kind of like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna go up. Just because he's
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: young and the Dodgers a lot to fix these dudes.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yes, gott it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I think he has some star potential once he catches
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: his breath, calms everything down.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I think this guy has a chance to be extremely good.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Because there's plate.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Did you see the ratings in Tokyo.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Of course I did it. Do you think it was
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: calling the games.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Crazy? Twenty five million viewers averaged, not total, right, you're
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: on YouTube right now when you see the video that
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: we post. That's the total. At the end of the day.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: This is the average audience. Their population is about one
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: percent of the country was watching this.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, right. I mean it was on prime
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: time and you had five of the biggest stars in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the history of Japan in this series. Three of them
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: pitched or two of them pitched in Game one, the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: first time two Japanese born guys that ever started their
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: opening day game. It was awesome. It was an awesome atmosphere.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: It was an awesome experience. We talked about it on
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Game one broadcast with Jason Benetti. There's gonna be there
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: was forty five or fifty thousand people there, whatever the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: number was. There's gonna be five million that say they
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: were there in about ten years every year to go up.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Pretty soon there'll be one hundred and twenty million people
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: out this game. But no, what an awesome experience. And
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: this is why MLB does these games. I love these games.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I think they're great for the sport, and I think
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: they're great for growing the games.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And anybody that's like, oh, MLB shouldn't be giving away
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: their opening day to another country, I'm like, shut up.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: We can have two opening days. Two teams can go
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: out and play somewhere else. You know, other places around
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the world deserve to watch our great sport regular season style.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And then still next week we're fine, Okay, it'll still
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: feel like opening Day.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: We got fresh quotes from both camps in the ongoing
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: saga between Vladdie Junior and his only team that he's
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: ever known, the Blue Jays. So let's start with Laddie
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: because this stood out. We'll start here and then we'll
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: get the reply from the front office. Vladdie he said
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that he thinks he'll be in the seven hundred million
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: range if he puts up an MVP caliber season, And
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the quote about the other side is if I have
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a bad year, I see my floor at five hundred mil.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: You gotta respect how open he's been over the last
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I mean, we always ask for that
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: here and feel like we don't get enough of it
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: in baseball. But what did you think of the comments? Cam?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I thought it was awesome when you look at what
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Juan Soto did and you look at what Vladdie has done.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: You look at Vladdie's floor year arab probably thirty twenty
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: nine of the first basements that would take that, So
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: you know, I think he's looking at it realistically. And
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: what I love the most guy that we didn't play
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: is he did an interview that I saw yesterday sitting
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: down with it. I know it was some type of
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Spanish radio station or TV station, and he actually even said,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: when the time comes, I'll entertain every team, including the Y.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: So he's starting to understand his value and starting to
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: see what's out there waiting for him.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: And again his floor.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: When we talk about floors and ceilings, I think he
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: hit this nail on the head.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: At his age, his ability, he's going to get better.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Genetics are real, It's in him. He was born to
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: play this game.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I thought it was great, especially for the fact that
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: he's letting the Blue Jays know this is what it's
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: going to cost you if you want to bring me
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: back here because somebody's going to give it to him.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Mmm, let's get the other side ready for this. So
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: we had Mark Shapiro, the team president, talking today, quote,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to sign him. I think we're
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: going to extend him. The reason I feel that way
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: is because we have such a clear alignment on the
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: desired outcome. Do you feel like that's the case? Aj?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: What did I say a couple weeks ago when this
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: first started, Vladdie? Guess what he did? He's so smart.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: He put him in a corner because he said he
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: gave him the parameters to a deal, and then he
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: put it on the organization and then guess what the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Blue Jay fans like, we got to get this done.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It was so smart with glad he did. And for
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: him to continue to say what he's saying is awesome.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I love what he's doing. He's just back the Blue
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Jays into a corner where they're like, man, because when
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you when do you ever hear a team come out
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and say, well, I think we're gonna sign him because
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: we align. Well, that is what Vo Guerrero said. He said,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: y'all didn't align because if you guys aligned you already
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: would have had a deal done. So he just keeps
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: throwing these parameters out there. And what he's doing is
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: he's making the Blue Jays. I mean, I hate to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: say this about the Blue Jay because they got a
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: lot of money. He's making them look kind of cheap
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and he knows it. And now the organization's starting to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: see it, and the fans are starting to see it,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and they're like, wait a second, we can't sign this
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: guy because of this or because of this. He's told
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: us what you want, go out and get it done.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And the front office is in the hot seat for
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: me here now because he's put him on the spot.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Hey, also, Scotty, let me add this to Scotty. Think
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: about this the last Let's go back to what forty
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: years now, the Blue Jays have been trying their best
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: to sign a superstar. We know what the Jan Soto
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: offer was that you know that was out there. So
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I think Laddie looked back and go, who better than me?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: When you talk about they haven't been able to anybody
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: to come here.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I'm here right now.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: This is my time to take advantage of the situation
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: that the Blue Jays are in, So it's smart on
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Bladdie and his team to go ahead and put that
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: out there. I think he's he's playing the business game
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: the right way.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: On the leverage side, he certainly got it because it
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't look like Boba Schett is going to end up
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: their long term and after that it just starts to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: look bleak. There's not a ton coming on the way
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: in the farm system. It's a super competitive division. Do
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: you feel like aj These comments indicate that the Blue
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Jays might try and up their offer and get something done,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: even though there was that fake deadline put in place
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: that they weren't going to talk about negotiations.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Well, wasn't that put in by flotting up by the
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Blue Jays? The Blue Jays listen, they'd love to get
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: this done anytime they can because it's a great pr move.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And I think Shapiro and Atkins are in their last
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: year their deal, both of them the president and the GM.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: If not, it's close to their last year. So they
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: want to get this done because they wanted to look
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: good on them the to ownership and say, see we
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: got lad done. No one thought we could do it,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: but here we did it. So I think they want
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to get it done. And I also believe that the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: deadline was put out there because Glad didn't want to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: do it. But if they come to him with a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: big enough offer, guess what happens. The deadline goes away
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: and he signs a contract stays with the Blue Jays.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Would I like to see him be a Blue Jay
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: for life? Absolutely, Because he grew up in Canada. He
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: understands what the Canadians are about. The Canadians love him
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: because they feel like he's a homegrown son with his dad.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So the deadline was kind of fake to me. But
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: at the same time, they need to get this done
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: for the Blue Jays organization and for their fans, because
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the fans deserve it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you're Toronto, I mean, they're trying to
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: compete this year. Obviously, even though they didn't get the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: quote superstar over the last few years, they did some
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: good work this offseason. They should be a better team.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know there's concerns about if the pitching
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: staff will hold up. I'm like that's concerns with almost
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: every team. I mean, Andressamenez is going to make them
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a lot better on the run prevention side. Santander is
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: in my mind, a huge addition, and I think he's
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: gonna have a chip on his shoulder this coming season too.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, he had a great year last year with
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the Orioles. The deal looks nice, but it's actually worth
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: almost half of what it actually looks like in net
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: present value. So anyway, all right, AJ, you weren't on
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: with us yesterday. But Kobe Meo was frustrated about getting optioned,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and then he released comments on social media that he
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: said that it was not directed against the Orioles or
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the Tides, the Triple A team. He said, I'll be
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the first to tell you I didn't do enough to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: spring to break camp with the big league team. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: was frustrated in the moment things were taken out of context.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: As a competitor. This lit a fire in me, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I will make sure I work even harder to get
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: back to the big leagues and help the team win
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: games as soon as possible. I'll never settle for anything
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: less than the best version of myself. Did he have
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: to apologize?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't think he did. I thought what he said
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: was dead on. I thought would he what he said
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: was you know, hey, I've done everything I can, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: basically what he said he is I'm in a no
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: win situation. Right. If I go back to Triple A
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and do well, they're gonna say, well, you already dominated
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Triple A, he should dominate. And let's say he goes
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: God for, he goes back there and doesn't do as well,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, well, see, we told you he's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: over he's overrated, he's over matched. He shouldn't be and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: this is why he didn't make the big league team.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: So I think what he said was right. You know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he has to apologize and change it because he doesn't
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: want people to think he doesn't like the Orioles. He
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't like Norfolk. But I get where he's coming from
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: because if you do the numbers that he put up
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: in Triple A and you look at it and you're like, man,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you know I would think that I don't have to
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: go back there because I have nothing to prove. It's
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: basically what he said. But this is where we've talked
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: about the Orioles over and over again, is you have
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a logjam of prospects and if he got traded, I mean,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: he looks at his other guys that have been traded
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: away from Baltimore. They get to play in the big
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: leagues every day. He's going back to Triple A because
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: they don't have room for him. This is where you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: start getting to prospect logjam. And this is why I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: think we've been so adamant for the for the Orioles
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to go out and make some moves to clear up
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: spaces in the big leagues and also help their own
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: big league team.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Also, I mean, this is part of this show. Players
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: are human beings. He's crushing Trip A for a couple
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: of years. He's going, Okay, I didn't have a great spring,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and here I go again. I'm gonna have to prove myself.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: It gives the team a great excuse to kind of
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: keep me down there for a while.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Also, the way the system works in baseball is the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: younger you get called up into the big leagues, the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: more on your earning side. I know that's not the
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: necessarily the top of mind topic at all times, but
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: it is a real thing, and you feel like you're
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: looking around the league saying, if I was on twenty
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: six other teams, I'd be in the big leagues right now,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is right I'm not on the Oriels
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: or the Dodgers.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: What was the guy who got sours? What was his name?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Kyle Stowers and Kyles Towers and Connor Norbert most not
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: as good as Kobe Mayo.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: But all these guys who got traded to the Brewers
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and to the Marlins, they're in the big leagues. Kobe
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Mayo lost your head A nine sixty nine sixty ops
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I think in the International League, nine twenty oh ps,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: nine twenty six ops in the International League. What else
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: does he have to prove in triple A? He's proved
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: he could do it. He didn't do great spring training.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a weird situation.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. Let's be nice and simple today, as
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: we're getting ready for the season to start, BETAMGM futures
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: on the league of the winning team in the World Series.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think a National League team or an American
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: League team will win the World Series? We're at minus
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: one sixty five for the NL versus plus one thirty
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: for the American League. Man, I still like Dan Allen.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: You know that's steep for me.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: This is a joke. This is a trick question, right,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: there's a trick question, which team do I like? Let's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: start Dodgers, Phillies, Braves, Mets, Diamondbacks, Padres. Then when do
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: we get to an American League team that can compete Yankees,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Red Sox, Orioles, Astros, not to like five at least
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: five teams in the National League before you get to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: an American League team. So I think this is a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: no brainer. The odds suck and they know it, that's why.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: But I still think the National League team should win
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the World Series. Will they? I don't know, but I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: think right now it's pretty easy that you would pick
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the National League.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. If you're looking at this going, hey,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I think I've got some value here. American League plus
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: one thirty now not for me. If minus one sixty
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: five is two steep for you, that's okay. But yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I mean, we felt this way last year,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: and what happened.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It played out exactly right we said. I mean, think
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: about the Diamondbacks won eighty nine games last year and
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: didn't get into postseason. They're better this year.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: They had a damn good team last year. I mean
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: they won eighty three the year before, and they made
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: it to the World Series. Obviously the Rangers won at
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that point. But I do think the National League is
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: having their moment. This is like the Golden Era right
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: now for the National League, which it's been the American
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: League for a long time. Over the last what thirty
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: years or so, there's been a lot of American League.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah sure, but you guys, you guys had the edge
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: for a long time. Obviously, it's not like the AL
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: one every year. I'm just saying you. Even when you
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: got to the All Star Game, you'd be like, oh man,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the AL just looks like they have more talent. I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: also think that the DH was a factor. You know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you couldn't yeah, you had that. You also you also
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: had the Obviously, the the Yankees were big boys for
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: a while. The Red Sox have had some really good runs.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: But I also and the Astros and the DH helps
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: on the offensive side of things. Sometimes you'd look in
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: an ALE lineup and be like, they've got a little
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: bit of a little bit of extra punch. You couldn't
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: sign every player that's a that's a VET, that's got
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: a good bat. I mean, David Ortiz could never play
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: in the National League. Just as an example, right think
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: about it when you're looking at this one. If you are, hey,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: there's a no sweat parlay, drive to the rim with
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: a no sweat parlay cocin log in to get yours
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: at bet MGM. Obviously it's a big day, Mark Maddini's time. Baby.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: If you don't win your vet, you get a stake
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: back and bonus bets gambling problem more concern called winning
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: hundre gambling. All right, a couple of Astros topics here
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: during break that we won't have time for on the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: TV show, will show the uniforms for the shows. But first,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Josel Tuva kind of officially named the left fielder for
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the Astros. I know he's had some hiccups. Some people
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: are worried, but he's gonna play most of his games
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: out there. Of course, things can change, but a j
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: are you good with this?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's bought in, so I'm good with it. I
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: don't have a problem with this at all. I think,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: does he want to do it? I don't know that
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: he wants to do it, but you know what, if
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: he thinks he's best for the team, I think he'll
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: do it and he'll do the best he can. He's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: athletic enough. I mean in dyk in not a minute
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: made anymore dyke in park there's not much wind. He's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: playing these high skys in Florida. Outside with the wind,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit different. But I think
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: once he gets suggested, he's going to be good out
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: there because he takes pride in what he does. And
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: you know one thing jose al Tuova is always going
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: He's gonna hit yeah and left fields. It's tiny out
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: there still, the small field.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: There's a weird wall. Right, there's a weird wall. There's
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: some weird angles. It's gonna take some getting used to.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: But once he gets used to it, he'll be fine.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I have no doubt in josel Twov doing anything. I
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: would never question Jose al two ve doing anything on
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: a baseball field.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Some people are freaking out, what if he makes twenty
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: five errors whatever. I'm like, if he makes five in
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks, they'll move him back.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So he's not making twenty five errors in the outfitred.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: People are freaking out on socials all right, the uniforms
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: getting a lot of new unis coming out left and right.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: What do you think I kind of like them? I like,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I did. I did like the Space City ones just
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: because they were different. But I like this one stros.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I like the shooting Star across the front. I don't
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: mind these. I kind of like the A on the top. Yeah,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: these are these are cool. These are different. But I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: think when you go City Connects, you gotta go crazy.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think because they're supposed to be different than
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the regular ones, this looks like think you could be
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: almost in everyday uniform for me, right, like this almost
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you got to go crazy. That's why I like the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Space City because they were the dark davy blue and
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: they said Space City. So yeah, I like them, but
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I think this could be almost in every day uniform
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: for the Astros.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: But that's a compliment too. That means they're not enough
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: that if they wore them every day, they're like cool.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: You're clean. They're clean one hundred percent. Yes, you know
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: like the Rays, the Rays gray ones that they did
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: that they got on that hot winning streak. Those are
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: awesome and the White Sox Black south Side one right
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: because they're just so different than what their normal uniform
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: looks like. And that's what these are meant to be
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: different to get people to go out and buy them.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like them. I understand not every single city
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Connects going to go crazy, and if they're going to
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: keep releasing different ones, I'm fine with that, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: as long as it's a win. I want to try
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: and be tempered with how we criticize uniforms. If they're
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a disaster, will be all over them. But these were cool.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: This is a fancy what's the beef segment? Okay, this
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: is like that Kobe beef that real nice cut here.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: So the Phillies are suing an analytics company that was
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: bought out by a company called TeamWorks. Zellous was the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: original name of the company. Basically, this actually something common
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: in baseball. You can pay for exclusivity with certain data
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: that you're receiving in a contract that is not abnormal.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: This company got bought out by a bigger company that
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: works with all the teams, and they're trying to split
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: up the services offered and they still had a contract running,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: including for this year with an option. They went to
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the Phillies and they were like, hey, we'll give you
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: a discount for your services that we're going to give
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: to you, but we're going to offer all kinds of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: packages to every team. The Phillies are like, no, you're
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: not allowed to work with any teams in the division.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You're only allowed to work with six teams total, and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: that includes one per division. So this is actually pretty
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: common aja with analytics companies, and it sounds like they
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: should have waited one more year until I think the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: deal is expired, but instead this is going to go
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: to court, and the Phillies are saying, this is the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: kind of damage that is hard to even put into numbers,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: because think about it, the Phillies win a World Series.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: That's tens of millions of dollars that they're going to make,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and this is a pretty good fight that we're going
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: to have in court.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I like this fight. I like this fight. I like
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the Phillies for doing this. Good for you Phillies for
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: standing up for yourself. Yeah, analytics companies do this all
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the time. I mean, at least it's not what the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: what the Astros guys going to the Cardinals database and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: steal all their analyticals. I remember that whole thing. I mean,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I know it wasn't that bad, but what this company
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: is doing is Basically, they're trying to say, hey, we're
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: going to go out to other rivals and say hey,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: we have the Phillies, so you guys should get on
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: with us too, And they're using them, and I like
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that the Phillies are going after them. They should because yes,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: they pay for certain advantages and every team is trying
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to find that advantage. We talked about with Pierce Johnson,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: what are the Rockies need to do to find their
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: advantage at home? And this is a way for the
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Phillies to say, hey, we use you, we believe in
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: your stuff. We don't want everyone else to have it
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: while we're under contract. So I agree with the Phillies
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: on this one.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I'm right with that. I'm right there with you.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Aja one thing that as you were going down the list, Scott,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: all I heard.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Was greed, greed, and more greedy.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: So I'll respect the Phillies one hundred percent from making
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: his moves because they made his move to bolster their club.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: And then here you have a company that got greedy
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: and like, like Scott said, a little bit of patience,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: we wouldn't be here.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: So I'm totally okay with it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's some personal Fitriol involved here too.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: As I read, the whole story was great. In The Athletic,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: it talked about how the guy who really started the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: analytics department in for the Phillies, the first real full
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: fledge they call it analytics department. His name's Andy Galdy.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: He was then hired away by this company, and then
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: he has hired multiple research and development staff away from
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the Phillies during this time period. So from the Phills,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're stealing our employees. Now you're trying to
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: pimp out the that was supposed to be for us
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: in an exclusive deal, and I don't know every single morsel.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: We're going to find more out in court if it
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: gets there. But then they go to the Phillies and
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: saft season they're like, Hey, we're going to give all
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: kinds of different backtges to everyone, so your exclusivity is
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: going to be gone, but we'll give you a discount.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: But the discount looked to me like it was still
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: going to end up costing them more for their deal
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: than anyone else. So I'm like, on top of that,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: you're still making them pay more and you're violating the contract.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: So I thought it was crazy. Three minutes to go
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and then you can watch Dodgers Territory. But let's do
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: a little emotional goodbye to the spring training tour. I
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: heard we got one or two things prepared.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I know, might, I might, Mookie I got sick. I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: traveled so much.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Did you did you lose fifteen pounds?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Which someone could out a lot? A lot. He can't
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: afford to lose fifteen pounds either.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I was like a little bit
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: concerned when I saw that. I mean, five pounds would
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: be a lot. Mooky is probably what one fifty.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: No, he's bigger than that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Come on, Scott, I'm seventy.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: No, he's he's Mookie's bigger than people give him credit
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: for it. But to him, fifteen pounds is like you
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: losing two pounds.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: He's one eighty listed one eighty, so that would be
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: one sixty five.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: That's small.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: That's small.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Got to get him right too, because you know, they
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: really struggled those first two games on him and Freddy.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: They got to get him right to make.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Sure they desperately missed their superstars. I mean they didn't
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: win by that much.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: You know, only they only you know hammered the team
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: that many people who are thinking is gonna win the
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Central pretty apparently easily in two games without And I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: said this yesterday.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I did Colin Coward yesterday, and he's like, well, what
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: about the Cubs? I said, the Dodgers didn't throw their
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: one at two. They threw their three and four starter
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: because they didn't see glauds Now and Snow right, the
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Cubs threw him and Oga and Steel. That's their one two.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers threw their three and their four. Let's not
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: forget how good they are. And yesterday in Game two,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: they didn't use Tanner Scott, they didn't use like trying
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and they he was Eving Phillips on the show, didn't
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: use Bonda, They didn't use a lot of these guys
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that they're gonna use down the stretch. They close it
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: out with Vesia. Oh yeah, own Kirbyates, who is pretty good,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: who nobody can hit, by the way, and if you
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: ain't and nobody wanted, nobody wanted. But if you didn't
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: see Kirby Ate's's numbers last year, there are dunculous because
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: every nobody could hit his fastball or his split he
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: throws them for he throws ninety three cam right down
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the middle and dude.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Just missed it. Like It's the most frustrating thing in
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I've been there, Hike, and am I not hitting this?
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: He gets it done. I'm with you, AJ, so just
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: so many weapons and then I'm gonna throw confordo. Edmund
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: will Smith just smacked him around quietly.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: So much death and once he got to hit he needed.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: We'll tell them about it next time. What does he
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: have hits in five countries? Yeah, that's cool. All right,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: let's finish strong here. We got two things. Number one
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: spring training stats. We hit nineteen camps this year. That
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: was a foul Territory season high. Sixty two players, sixteen
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: GM manager coach interviews and eight other guests too. Wow,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: that was awesome. Thank you Arizona Florida and the crew
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes. For example, our fearless leader Mark, who
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: is holding up the interview between AJ and Zach Allen.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: If not AJ, that could have been ugly. I don't
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: think we have enough insurance for that one.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been ugly for me or Zach noticed
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: where we all we positioned ourselves. But Mark also that
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: was the one to put up the sale. See the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: sale that he's behind him. The wind was blowing that
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: way and they thought that would be a good idea
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: to put the sail up. So yes, thanks for Mark
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: for holding it up, but also bad engineering on your
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: end by putting the sale up. I mean it was
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: like a sale and then there. I don't know, but
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Jack Gollan, I did know who you were. If you
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: didn't see that episode, Zach accused me of not knowing
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: who he was, so he was playing with me. But
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he knew that I knew that. He knew that I knew.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: He knew exactly exactly. Cam you crush it man, Encouraging
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: everyone also to look back at prior episodes. Just look
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: up you know one of those nineteen teams. We want
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: to see more from them. But I hope you have fun.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: We'll catch you soon.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, sir, appreciate you guys. It was a blast. Yes.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Dave travels home ft FAM back tomorrow for a normal show.