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The Michael Berry Show - Sunday Bonus Podcast - Archive - Czar Talks With Dr. Mary Talley Bowden on Tylenol Link to Autism · Stampede of Truth

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  Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. Through his White House press team
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  Speaker 1: announced Sunday night that tomorrow would be the biggest medical
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  Speaker 1: news ever or something to that effect. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's true or not. Nothing comes to mind immediately.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose the results of the first thalidomide test would
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  Speaker 1: be up there. But the idea that the medical establishment
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  Speaker 1: that we've trusted or that many people have for so
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  Speaker 1: many years, we're in possession of information that is causing severe,
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  Speaker 1: severe disabilities and death and has been hidden from us
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  Speaker 1: by many, many people, pretty darn big. They're not the
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  Speaker 1: first to figure this out. They're just the first to
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  Speaker 1: reveal it. Robert F. Kennedy gets a lot of credit
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  Speaker 1: for that. But also worth noting that the Democrat presidential
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  Speaker 1: candidate last year, Robert F. Kennedy, would not be able
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  Speaker 1: to have access to or release that information if he
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  Speaker 1: didn't have the president's full blessing. These are good times
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  Speaker 1: we live in. Dr. Mary Talley Bowden is our guest. Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks for having me, Michael.
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  Speaker 1: Don't say my name in the middle of the sentence.
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  Speaker 1: It's like my mom. It's weird. Don't go mom on me. Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you making time for us in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan and your own podcast
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  Speaker 1: and writing your book and being a guest on every
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  Speaker 1: other program in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Anytime, Michael.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what we're going to do? Is that our
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  Speaker 1: tone today?
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Just so you know, Ramon put me up
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  Speaker 1: to saying that. Honored to have you, Doc.
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  Speaker 2: It's an honor to be here, as usual.
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  Speaker 1: You know what you're doing. You're trying to make me
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  Speaker 1: look bad. I know exactly what you're doing. So yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not moved by the news very often. And to
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  Speaker 1: be honest, I'm emotionally spent after two weeks ago tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Frankly, I wish I'd never
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  Speaker 1: seen the video because I can't get it out of
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  Speaker 1: my head, but emotionally spent and drained, and then there
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  Speaker 1: are all the other things. These are heady times. They're
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  Speaker 1: crazy times. They're strange times. They're unprecedented times, at least
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  Speaker 1: in the modern era. And then we get the news yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and having been a person who has battled on behalf
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  Speaker 1: of independent doctors and patients and the real science of medicine,
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  Speaker 1: somebody that the Texas Medical Association has gone after and
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  Speaker 1: tried to destroy, somebody that has spent a fortune on
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  Speaker 1: legal fees, somebody that's been called every bad name only
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  Speaker 1: to have everything you said come back full circle and
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  Speaker 1: the very people who trashed you now saying, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, ivermectin over the counter. Having been through
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  Speaker 1: everything you've been through from a personal perspective, not a doc,
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  Speaker 1: not a mother, not a now prominent figure as part
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  Speaker 1: of patients and medical openness, how did you react?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I admit that... It's been exhausting in the public
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  Speaker 2: health sector as well as what happened with Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's just a matter of common sense.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we knew that we should always be careful
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  Speaker 2: during pregnancy about what we put in our body. We
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  Speaker 2: were screaming about that when they told pregnant women to
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  Speaker 2: get the COVID shots. And I don't think people realize this,
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  Speaker 2: but all pregnant women are expected to get three vaccines,
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  Speaker 2: four if you count COVID. which is sort of ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: because these vaccines have not been tested against a true placebo,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't have the long-term safety data. The acetaminophen recommendation,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, from what I've read, yes, there is some
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  Speaker 2: valid data saying that there could be a contributing factor
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  Speaker 2: to autism. I don't think this is going to solve
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  Speaker 2: the autism epidemic. But I guess if I were pregnant,
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  Speaker 2: I would take that advice seriously. There are the counter
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  Speaker 2: argument is that some people feel like a fever could
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  Speaker 2: be contributing to autism. I think what we need is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bottom line, common sense. Be very careful about
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  Speaker 2: what you put in your body during pregnancy. And then
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  Speaker 2: we need to eliminate completely any sort of mandate to
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  Speaker 2: have any sort of substance injected into our bodies. And
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  Speaker 2: then let the people decide. Let it be an individual decision.
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  Speaker 2: Because obviously the science is not settled on what's causing autism.
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  Speaker 2: But so many people believe that it is vaccines. Yesterday's
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  Speaker 2: announcement was, you know, it was breadcrumbs in that direction.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were disappointed by it
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  Speaker 2: because we expected there to be more commentary on vaccines,
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  Speaker 2: and it was basically focused on Tylenol.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Why do you think that was?
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  Speaker 2: It's politically easy to talk about acetaminophen toxicity. It's very
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  Speaker 2: politically difficult to talk about vaccines, but That's what's disappointing
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  Speaker 2: because Trump does not seem to cower from anything politically.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Kennedy was capable of being stronger on that front.
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  Speaker 2: It's been almost a year now and COVID shots are
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  Speaker 2: still being given to pregnant women and children. It's very
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  Speaker 2: alarming to me. I continue to see injured people on
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  Speaker 2: a daily basis in my office. it's just astounding to
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  Speaker 2: me that this product is still on the market.
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  Speaker 1: Injured in what way? Like what would be some of
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  Speaker 1: those common ways?
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  Speaker 2: Autoimmune disease, neurological disease. I saw a former marathon runner
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  Speaker 2: in my office last week, two shots in the right arm.
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  Speaker 2: Now her right arm will not stop shaking. That's been
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  Speaker 2: going on for four years and she doesn't have a
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  Speaker 2: single physician who will entertain the possibility that could be
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  Speaker 2: from the mRNA shots. I was the one that had
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  Speaker 2: to submit her report to VAERS. She can't teach anymore.
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  Speaker 2: She can't run anymore. I see this daily in my office.
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  Speaker 1: It's so frustrating because I wasn't going through what you
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  Speaker 1: were going through because I remember counseling you at the time. MTB,
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  Speaker 1: you need a vacation. You were pillar to post. You
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  Speaker 1: were seemingly 24 hours a day fielding calls. You were
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  Speaker 1: having to, I mean, it was like you were in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the Spanish flu in 1918. But I
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  Speaker 1: got to tell you, you know, watching people that told
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  Speaker 1: me how stupid I was for not getting this and
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  Speaker 1: how I was going to die as a result of this,
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  Speaker 1: and now so many of them with severe medical conditions
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  Speaker 1: as a result of my brother dying from it, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to take it. He was required to by
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement. It's... get emotional about a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Mary Talley Bowden is our guest. Can you hang with
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  Speaker 1: us for just a moment? Yes. Thank you. Dr. Bowden?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to yesterday in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of this blockbuster set of revelations coming from the Director
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  Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Health and Human Services,
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  Speaker 1: and the president. And the takeaway that seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: the only thing anyone covered, and again, this is a
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  Speaker 1: limitation of medical knowledge by reporters. You talk about what
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  Speaker 1: you talk about because it's all you know, is Tylenol
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  Speaker 1: tended to be the most reported on subject. And granted,
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  Speaker 1: Tylenol is ubiquitous. Everyone has it in their medicine cabinet.
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  Speaker 1: But it feels like we lost out on the forest
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  Speaker 1: for the trees, on the bigger revelations yesterday. Without conjecture,
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  Speaker 1: what did you feel like they said yesterday that was
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  Speaker 1: most important?
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  Speaker 2: Well, my takeaway, I think everybody's takeaway from that is
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  Speaker 2: just buyer beware. Don't just blindly put things in your body,
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  Speaker 2: especially when you're pregnant, because everybody had this false assumption
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  Speaker 2: that acetaminophen is very safe. And interestingly, during COVID, we
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  Speaker 2: figured out that people that took Tylenol during COVID had
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  Speaker 2: worse outcomes, which I, you know, that was the first hint.
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  Speaker 2: But as I said before, I think there was disappointment
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  Speaker 2: that there was not more focus on the contribution of
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  Speaker 2: vaccines and autism. And it seems like a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a cop out. I mean, I am sure acetaminophen
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  Speaker 2: is a risk factor in some degree, but is it
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  Speaker 2: the primary risk factor? I doubt that.
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  Speaker 1: So why do you think they made that so much
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  Speaker 1: a thrust of their comments? You can go conspiracy theory
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  Speaker 1: for me on a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean, well, no, like I said, politically easy,
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  Speaker 2: very easy. It's not, you know, the Democrats actually watched
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  Speaker 2: Peter Hotez to see his reaction. Of course, he's completely
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  Speaker 2: dismissing that it could be have anything to do with
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  Speaker 2: acetaminophen because it just doesn't you know, he can't he
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  Speaker 2: can't align with the other side, no matter what they say.
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  Speaker 2: but it causes much less of a fury to go
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  Speaker 2: after acetaminophen than it does to go after the precious vaccines.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose so. So I read something yesterday, and
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  Speaker 1: you never know the sources. If it's not a doctor
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  Speaker 1: you already know, or you or McCullough or, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of these folks that has, you know, gold-plated credentials.
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  Speaker 1: You see people who have doctor in front of their
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  Speaker 1: names and they make medical statements. But somebody said something
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  Speaker 1: to the effect of one of the things that we
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  Speaker 1: saw with regard to Tylenol was that if Tylenol was
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  Speaker 1: given after the COVID shot is when we saw all
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  Speaker 1: the problems. And it was a reference to pregnant women
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  Speaker 1: and then babies that are no longer in the womb,
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  Speaker 1: why would that affect that? What is the medical reasoning
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  Speaker 1: behind that?
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  Speaker 2: Because Tylenol inhibits a natural anti-inflammatory in our body, glutathione.
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  Speaker 2: And so glutathione is important to protection from toxins, protections
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  Speaker 2: from injury in our body, and Tylenol depletes that. And
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  Speaker 2: apparently in newborns and fetuses, their brains are much more
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  Speaker 2: susceptible to Tylenol than they would be as adults. And
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  Speaker 2: this was actually not studied, you know, when Tylenol came
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  Speaker 2: on the market in the 50s. They did not study
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  Speaker 2: how it affected infants or fetuses. And it's only through
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  Speaker 2: animal studies that they realized that the younger population, they're
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  Speaker 2: much more susceptible to harms from Tylenol.
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  Speaker 1: So does this mean you would recommend against people taking
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  Speaker 1: Tylenol at all in the future?
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  Speaker 2: Personally, I'm not a big fan of it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of people that get
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  Speaker 2: very anxious about a fever without a good reason. I mean, my.
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  Speaker 2: The way I counsel my patients is with fever, the
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  Speaker 2: big consequence is dehydration. So you want to control the
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  Speaker 2: fever to prevent dehydration, but if you can keep yourself
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  Speaker 2: very well hydrated, and actually it's a vicious cycle. So
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  Speaker 2: when you become dehydrated, you're more likely to have a fever.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't want to have a seizure because your
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  Speaker 2: fever has gotten so high, but you also need to
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  Speaker 2: treat every single fever.
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  Speaker 1: This just taps into something that I've read a lot
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  Speaker 1: about and had a number of conversations with doctors over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, doctors with more of your
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  Speaker 1: focus than the old traditional, you know, just write a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of scripts. And this idea that sometimes in panicking
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  Speaker 1: over the slightest condition, you throw the baby out with
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  Speaker 1: the bathwater and the side effects of the treatment ends
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  Speaker 1: up being worse than the core condition.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I completely agree.
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  Speaker 1: So where does this long, I heard this for years,
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  Speaker 1: where does this long discussed relationship between vaccines and autism
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  Speaker 1: come from? And how concerned after yesterday and maybe before yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: did you change your opinion? Should we be on that?
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  Speaker 1: Because my heart goes out, you know, you were a mom.
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  Speaker 1: I think you were already through with Stanford and all
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  Speaker 1: your medical training by the time you were a pregnant
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  Speaker 1: woman and a mom. But most moms don't have that benefit.
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  Speaker 1: They can't come to those conclusions on their own. And
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  Speaker 1: they just want to deliver a healthy baby. And my
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  Speaker 1: heart goes out to that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the concern over our vaccines causing autism
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  Speaker 2: originally started with moms. Moms noticed, you know, I took
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  Speaker 2: my kid to get these shots and then the lights
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  Speaker 2: went out. immediately, you know, a day, a week after
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  Speaker 2: getting the shots. I mean, I think that's where it
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  Speaker 2: all started. Now, I'm not, this is not my area
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  Speaker 2: of expertise at all. So I'm just going off of
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  Speaker 2: what I've been reading. But, you know, and there is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a mother's instincts are above all, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they need to be taken seriously because the mom spends
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  Speaker 2: all her time with her child. The mom knows the child. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I will say I was a lot different
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  Speaker 2: as a first-time mother than I was with my fourth
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  Speaker 2: child because you learn along the way. But, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: believe that all these concerns came rightfully so from the mothers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a mother's intuition. It turns out to be a
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  Speaker 1: very powerful thing. And then you see that some of
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  Speaker 1: these medical institutions are are not concerned about healing their
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  Speaker 1: children at all, but serving big pharma and not the life...
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  Speaker 1: Can you stay with us for one more segment?
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  Speaker 2: I think so, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Ramon, get her off the phone. She's going to act
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  Speaker 1: too big for the show. We're talking about the breaking
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  Speaker 1: developments yesterday between Cabinet Secretary Housing and Human Services... Health
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  Speaker 1: and Human Services Director Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and of
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  Speaker 1: course the president, talking about medical breakthroughs and a commitment
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  Speaker 1: to investigate further. Was there anything, Dr. Bowden, about yesterday
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  Speaker 1: that was new to you or that surprised you that
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  Speaker 1: they were willing to go that far in disclosures?
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  Speaker 2: Not really. I mean, I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: Too soft, if anything. I mean, I guess I didn't realize,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when they announced the acetaminophen potential for harm,
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  Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised. First, my knee-jerk reaction was,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about this, because it seems like this
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  Speaker 2: would have come out, you know, a long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to study.
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  Speaker 2: You can conduct a study pretty easily. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: politically sensitive to go after acetaminophen. I mean, you can
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  Speaker 2: understand why vaccines is taking so long for this to
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  Speaker 2: come out. But then I went and dug into it.
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  Speaker 2: I read up about it. And I am convinced that
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  Speaker 2: acetaminophen is a potential risk factor. I just don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's the whole thing. And I think they should have
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  Speaker 2: spent more time talking about vaccines.
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  Speaker 1: Fair. So I know the emails I'm going to get
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  Speaker 1: that I'm ill-equipped to answer. And they go, all right, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you can't take Tylenol, we'll start with pregnant women,
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  Speaker 1: if you can't take Tylenol, can you take whatever else?
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  Speaker 1: And so what do you say to that? What's your thought,
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  Speaker 1: at least at this point, not as the doctor of
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  Speaker 1: the patient, but from what you've seen of the research?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not supposed to take aspirin. You're not supposed
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  Speaker 2: to take ibuprofen during pregnancy. That was already established. So
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  Speaker 2: like I said, if you get a fever, your most
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  Speaker 2: important thing is to stay hydrated because fever causes dehydration.
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  Speaker 2: That's the biggest risk factor. And the more dehydrated you become,
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  Speaker 2: the more likely you are to have a fever. So
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  Speaker 2: it's a vicious cycle. But yeah, You know, if worse
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  Speaker 2: comes to worse, you know, talk to your doctor and
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  Speaker 2: see if you need to take Tylenol if you just
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  Speaker 2: can't break the fever. But, yes, just take more caution
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  Speaker 2: about what you put in your body. And certainly do
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  Speaker 2: not get a COVID shot during your pregnancy. I can
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  Speaker 2: say that with 100% certainty. Personally, I would not get
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  Speaker 2: any vaccines during pregnancy.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. That's very interesting. I could spend some time on that,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll hold off for now. Do you have a
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  Speaker 1: good source? I mean, obviously, you say to people, we
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  Speaker 1: all say to people, get a good primary physician. But honestly,
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  Speaker 1: we know that some primary physicians haven't looked at a
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  Speaker 1: study or report that's been developed since they graduated medical
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  Speaker 1: school 45 years ago. And others are simply on a
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  Speaker 1: commission basis selling pharmaceutical scripts. Do you have websites that
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  Speaker 1: you go to to at least read from Peter Attia
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  Speaker 1: or whatever else? And why don't you produce a weekly
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  Speaker 1: news site, a newsletter? I just threw that in on
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  Speaker 1: the fly, but go ahead. Answer that as you will.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, Peter Attia was not on our
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  Speaker 2: side during COVID. I'll just mention that. But Independent Medical
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  Speaker 2: Alliance is a great resource, especially now that ivermectin is
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  Speaker 2: over the counter. People are going to be wanting to
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  Speaker 2: know how much should you take? I will refer people
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  Speaker 2: to that website. It's basically what the Frontline Critical Care
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  Speaker 2: Alliance became Independent Medical Alliance. And they are all very like-minded.
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  Speaker 2: I'm part of this organization, but it's like-minded physicians, lots
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  Speaker 2: of resources on that website on how to take ivermectin
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  Speaker 2: and other issues as well. But that's a good starting point.
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  Speaker 1: Independent Medical Alliance? Right.
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  Speaker 2: IMA.
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  Speaker 1: So where do you hope this will go from here?
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  Speaker 1: What would you like to see from here? Obviously, our
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  Speaker 1: fear is that it get ground down or buried in
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  Speaker 1: a mountain of bureaucracy or the private investigators for big
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  Speaker 1: pharma follow Robert F. Kennedy till they catch him in
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  Speaker 1: a tryst because that's usually how they take guys like
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  Speaker 1: this down. Where would you like to see this go?
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  Speaker 1: What to you would be a proper advancement?
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  Speaker 2: We need to eliminate all medical mandates, full stop. No
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  Speaker 2: third party should tell you or you. or your child,
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  Speaker 2: what they should put in their body. So that means schools.
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  Speaker 2: That means hospitals. It's a fundamental principle of informed consent
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  Speaker 2: and bodily autonomy. Eliminate mandates. Who knows when the science
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  Speaker 2: will be settled over vaccines? I suspect it's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be anytime soon. So in the meantime, and we
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  Speaker 2: learned this during COVID, you do not tell other people
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  Speaker 2: what to inject in their bodies.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think the great frustration is the idea
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  Speaker 1: that too many people don't want to think for themselves,
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  Speaker 1: not only on medical issues, on financial issues. That's how
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  Speaker 1: they get defrauded by Alan Stanford. On educational issues, that's
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  Speaker 1: how they end up in bad situations where their kid's
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  Speaker 1: wiener is being cut off and the school is encouraging it.
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  Speaker 1: I think that what we're talking about all in all
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  Speaker 1: is that you have agency over your own life, your
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  Speaker 1: own soul. your own health, your own finances, your own direction,
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  Speaker 1: your own career. And I think that's a good, you know,
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  Speaker 1: route back to the beginning of where you and I
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  Speaker 1: first started talking about medical ethics and our personal health
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  Speaker 1: and who we're going to trust and learning constantly and
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  Speaker 1: cross-referencing and cross-checking and second opinions and on and on
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  Speaker 1: and on. That wasn't really a question.
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  Speaker 2: And we have so much more. Well, I was going
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  Speaker 2: to say we have so much more access to information
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  Speaker 2: than we did 20 years ago. Like when I got
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  Speaker 2: out of medical school, doctors were the authority on everything
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  Speaker 2: because patients didn't have access to the information unless you
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  Speaker 2: had a textbook, a medical textbook, or did some training.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't know. You were in the blind. But now
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  Speaker 2: the information is so much more accessible that people really
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  Speaker 2: can do their own research in a pretty valid way.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I got a minute left. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: you to get mad at me because I never seem
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  Speaker 1: to ask this question properly, and it seems to change
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  Speaker 1: because you got so busy for so long, and I
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  Speaker 1: know you've kind of pulled back for your own health.
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  Speaker 1: If people feel that they are COVID vaccine injured or
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  Speaker 1: have questions related to long-term care, or maybe even they
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  Speaker 1: want issues related to the old-fashioned ear, nose, and throat,
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  Speaker 1: are you seeing patients now, and what's the process to
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  Speaker 1: see you? See how nicely I asked that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Sorry, what did you say?
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  Speaker 1: See how nicely I asked that?
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  Speaker 2: I very much appreciate that. Yes, I'm taking new patients
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  Speaker 2: for ear, nose, and throat, allergy, sleep medicine, COVID and
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  Speaker 2: COVID shot injuries. I'm not a primary care doctor. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not treating cancer. I don't do detox parasite protocols. But
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  Speaker 2: for those things, I do see patients and they just
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  Speaker 2: contact our office to set up an appointment.
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  Speaker 1: And that's BreatheMD? Yes. Thank you, Dr. Mary Talley-Boden. If
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