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55KRC Friday Morning Show with Brian Thomas 4/10/2026 · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five o five at fifty five KRC, he talks station
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  Speaker 1: Happy Fridays, will a vacation.
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  Speaker 2: Bull?
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  Speaker 1: What you got to take this slide down before the
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  Speaker 1: whole word's finished, don't you? Happy Friday? Brian Thomas right here,
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  Speaker 1: Glad to be glad, to be glad to know it's Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Still missing Joe's Tracker, although Danny Gleese did a great
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  Speaker 1: job covering for Joe. And look who's back in the
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  Speaker 1: booth this morning. Good morning, Danny glease and appreciate your
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  Speaker 1: cover and for him getting up early, although you always
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  Speaker 1: get up early, a little earlier from my show. I
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  Speaker 1: see you around here though early morning hours not let
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  Speaker 1: you don't come in at one o'clock in the morning
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  Speaker 1: like Joe's tracker, though he blakes lives here. And thanks
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  Speaker 1: to everyone who prayed for the Streker family. Upon the
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  Speaker 1: loss of Hairstreker, Joe's father, he dealt with funeral planning yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, just the benefits of advanced planning were
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  Speaker 1: fully revealed yesterday. His parents had done so long early
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  Speaker 1: took care of their funeral plots and all the arrangements,
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  Speaker 1: and so it was a rather easy process. And Lord
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  Speaker 1: knows when you were dealing with the stress off a
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  Speaker 1: loss of a dear love one like that. That is
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  Speaker 1: really a really beautiful thing that you've done for your
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  Speaker 1: surviving family. So just a little note of consideration, something
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  Speaker 1: you might want to think about in advance difficult times.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously you leave behind loved ones. They are the ones
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  Speaker 1: left to struggle, So if they keep that in mind,
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  Speaker 1: just something to think about it coming up. It's Friday,
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  Speaker 1: so that means in spite of the fact that Joe's
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  Speaker 1: not around lining up guests, he'd still sent me a rundown,
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  Speaker 1: and God bless him for it. Dave Hatter is going
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  Speaker 1: to join the program every Friday at six point thirty
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  Speaker 1: for the Tech Friday edition. Apparently the Washington Post is
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  Speaker 1: using reader data to set subscription prices. Huh. Reminds me
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  Speaker 1: of when I lived up in Chicago. We lived in
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  Speaker 1: the suburb of Oak Park, and just to the west
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  Speaker 1: of Oak Park was River Forest. There was an Oak
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  Speaker 1: Park price and a River Forest price because the houses
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  Speaker 1: were a whole lot more expensive in River Forests than
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  Speaker 1: they were in Oak Park. So you know, with contractors
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  Speaker 1: that come in, hm, if these richies in River Forest
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  Speaker 1: can afford this house then, or can I go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and jack the price up? So like fixing your ac
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  Speaker 1: and river forest was always more expensive than the same
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  Speaker 1: job in Oak Park. Maybe that's what the Washington Post
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  Speaker 1: is doing looking at your incommon setting a subscription. Accordingly,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we have. Day four, PayPal apparently disclosed the
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  Speaker 1: data brise, exposing users personal information. And finally Ford recalling
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  Speaker 1: more than a quarter of a million vehicles because of
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  Speaker 1: software issues that well raise crash risks. All right, seven o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: we are going to focus on well the trials and tribulations,
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  Speaker 1: and of course I will call it Shenanigans in downtown
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati in so far as budgeting, citizen watchdog Todd ends
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  Speaker 1: are in studio for an hour and he has been
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  Speaker 1: churning out all kinds of letters to city council, showing
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  Speaker 1: up at meetings. Evidence fully documented is what Todd Zenzer has.
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  Speaker 1: He's the Inspector General Voluntary in Retirement Inspector General for
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  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati. Even though they wish he wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: He's the signal ninety nine of issues financial for the
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  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati. He comes packed with all the goods
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  Speaker 1: and information, calm collected and cool. He probably reads it
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  Speaker 1: represents it perhaps a bigger threat than Signal ninety nine,
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  Speaker 1: although maybe we can do a cage match between the two.
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  Speaker 1: We're both really We're all really, really thankful, and we
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  Speaker 1: should collectively be thankful and helpful for the full the
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  Speaker 1: likes of Signal ninety nine of Todd's enser, because they
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  Speaker 1: speak truth to power, and it's really great that we
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  Speaker 1: have them. And since we have such a so few
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  Speaker 1: local reporters anymore. This isn't a criticism of the reporters
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  Speaker 1: we have locally. I appreciate what they appreciate what they do.
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  Speaker 1: But you know it as well as I know it,
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  Speaker 1: local reporting is going the way of the Dodo, because
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  Speaker 1: I guess the Internet. You know, Jack Eviden always on
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  Speaker 1: a Wednesday for the Big Picture. We're going to do
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  Speaker 1: it a Friday edition. Jack's going to show up at
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  Speaker 1: eight oh five, of course telephone, and we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: losing the peace. He'll of course tie that to well history.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it has a reference to World War One
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  Speaker 1: in our historical connections with Jack this morning. But thank you,
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  Speaker 1: Jack Evidan for grant to show up on a Friday
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  Speaker 1: with the absence of just tracker. I think he was
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  Speaker 1: worried about whether I could get through the three and
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  Speaker 1: a half hours I had left after Dave had or
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  Speaker 1: uses up a half And yeah, I did sweat a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about that yesterday. And finally Jack Winsor Jack
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  Speaker 1: Winsor with Windsor report, should Ohio apply the same ID
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  Speaker 1: standards to every ballot Amy Act in hiring Hillary Clinton's
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  Speaker 1: lawyer and election experts, there's a red flag for you.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, an Ohio lawmaker labels a child protection bill
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  Speaker 1: a culture war measure, suggesting it distracts from the hunger crisis.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess it's a question of limited financial resources.
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  Speaker 1: We can't do child protection bill because it will distract
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  Speaker 1: from the alleged hunger crisis. Well, that's why we have
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  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor at eight thirty joining the p Can I
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  Speaker 1: have you joined the program anytime? I always enjoy hearing
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  Speaker 1: from the listeners five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty
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  Speaker 1: to listen to the podcast, but you can't listen live.
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe and aviation issues yesterday, bring him account from
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  Speaker 1: the Hudson ensuit on energy policy, Congressman Warren Davidson on Iran,
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  Speaker 1: and a variety of other issues. And let's real quick
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  Speaker 1: here top of the our news, and here I am
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  Speaker 1: scratching my head. Spain, Spain is accusing Israel and the
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  Speaker 1: United States of violating international law. Spain a NATO ally,
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  Speaker 1: Let me just stick that out in front, NATO ally
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  Speaker 1: that refused to let us use the airspace so we
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  Speaker 1: could fly planes in and out of our military bases
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  Speaker 1: that are situated in Spain and have been for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. Maybe not for much longer. Geopolitical landscape is
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  Speaker 1: changing rather domatically before our very eyes. But Spain in
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  Speaker 1: issuing this, this accusation, I can't can I ask where
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  Speaker 1: Spain's criticism is of Iran shutting down the Strait of
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  Speaker 1: Hormuves international waters and in violation of international law and
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  Speaker 1: the law of the sea. No comments about that from
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  Speaker 1: the leaders of the various nations that have been profoundly
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  Speaker 1: impacted by the Iranian actions. And then what of Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump's seeming it's a constantly moving target and connection with
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  Speaker 1: these sanctions We've got a two week ceasefire, which kind
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  Speaker 1: of isn't under which the straight of Hormus is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be wide open. The Iranians responses, well, no, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: We're charging tariffs in the form of cryptocurrency or Chinese
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  Speaker 1: you on more on that later. Basically, the crypto allows
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  Speaker 1: the Iranians to continue to engage in financial transactions around sanctions.
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  Speaker 1: Red flag on the future of the dollar because sanctions right,
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  Speaker 1: sanctions can't impact cryptocurrency. Hamid Hosani, spokes in for Iran's
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  Speaker 1: oil as in Petrochemical Products Export Union told the Financial
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  Speaker 1: Time just yes or just Wednesday that Ron will require
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  Speaker 1: ships passing through the strait to pay cryptocurrency equivalent of
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  Speaker 1: a dollar a barrel, which translates roughly two million dollars
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  Speaker 1: per ship. Trump's response from on soooth truth social these
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  Speaker 1: there are reports that are on a charging fees to
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  Speaker 1: tankers going through the Hormone Strait. They better not be,
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  Speaker 1: and if they are, they better stop now exclamation point
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  Speaker 1: close quote. I mean, I wrote am after that, in
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  Speaker 1: what way can you force them to stop them? If
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  Speaker 1: they're not letting ships through under thread of them being
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  Speaker 1: blown up? Absent the tolls clearly apparently, well, it seems
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  Speaker 1: clear that we're not capable of opening the strait of
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  Speaker 1: Armors using our military forces. People are quick to observe
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  Speaker 1: that you don't want to send a billion dollar aircraft
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  Speaker 1: carrier through there because it could be blown up and
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  Speaker 1: end up on the bottom of the sea. With a
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  Speaker 1: relatively inexpensive mind. So I'm not sure what he means
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  Speaker 1: they better stop now, But that post came a day
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  Speaker 1: after he suggested we would be working with Iran to
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  Speaker 1: charge tolls. On Wednesday, speaking with ABC News, he said
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  Speaker 1: the US and Iran are thinking of doing a joint
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  Speaker 1: venture as a way of securing it, also securing it
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  Speaker 1: from lots of other people. It's a beautiful thing. I
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  Speaker 1: had trouble parsing through that. Some are interpreting that to
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  Speaker 1: mean that, well, any tolls that the Iranians would be charging,
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  Speaker 1: we would be sharing with them. Do we want to
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  Speaker 1: engage in the disruption of the international waters And there's
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  Speaker 1: a ripple effect that a lot of people are worried about.
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  Speaker 1: On that note, to get back to in a second.
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  Speaker 1: Addressing the tolls Monday, Trump has asked whether he would
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  Speaker 1: be okay with Iran charging tolls. You're backing up yet
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  Speaker 1: another day or so? What about US charging tolls? Trump said,
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather do that than let them have them. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Why shouldn't we We're the winner again, suggesting that we
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  Speaker 1: would somehow be sharing these tolls with Iran. That drew
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  Speaker 1: push back. Any tolls drew pushback from the European Commission
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  Speaker 1: and the United Nations. That all powerful, all important United
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  Speaker 1: Nations not. According to European Commission spokesperson speaking with euro News,
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  Speaker 1: international law provides the freedom of navigation, which means what
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  Speaker 1: it means, no payment whatsoever. The straight up hoorm moves
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  Speaker 1: like any other maritime lane. Is a public good for
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  Speaker 1: all humanity, which means navigation must be free. Freedom of
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  Speaker 1: navigation must be restored. Pivoting over the UN International Maritime
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  Speaker 1: Organization there speaking with Reuters said imposing a toll on
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  Speaker 1: ships stailing through the Strait sets a dangerous precedent. There
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  Speaker 1: is no international agreement where tolls can be introduced for
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  Speaker 1: transiting international straits. The UN Convention on the Law the
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  Speaker 1: Sea outlines the rules regarding the Straits under international navigation. Sadly,
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  Speaker 1: while the US and Iran did sign that treaty, neither
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  Speaker 1: ratified it, and you know, I suppose even if they ratified,
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  Speaker 1: it would be difficult to enforce. Going back to the
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  Speaker 1: lack of teeth the UN has, We're going to pass
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  Speaker 1: a resolution of condemnation, meaning what anyhow, it's the fear
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  Speaker 1: of broader use of tolls. If it's okay for the
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  Speaker 1: Writings to shut down international waters and make money off
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  Speaker 1: of it, what about the other choke points that exist
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  Speaker 1: in the world oil industry. REPS met with Senior Department
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  Speaker 1: staff Wednesday this week said conceding Iran's request would add
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  Speaker 1: two point five million dollars in tolls and higher insurance
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  Speaker 1: costs on every shipment. Giving Iran control the straight here
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  Speaker 1: we go could set a precedent for other countries like
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  Speaker 1: Singapore and Turkey, where they also have choke points on
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  Speaker 1: key trade routes, the Straits of Malacca, bos Boris, and
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  Speaker 1: there's more. See here. If I found this, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: approving a toll system for removes pivoting over to different
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  Speaker 1: analysis of this, rolling back freedoms and navigation, which are
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  Speaker 1: described as a bedrock of US strategic global positioning for
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  Speaker 1: at least one hundred and fifty years. Senior fellow at
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  Speaker 1: the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington, quoted for
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  Speaker 1: a Wall Street Journal Jacob Kirkeguard's name, said it would
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  Speaker 1: set a global precedent, potentially inviting countries around the world
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  Speaker 1: to impose similar fees on trade through global choke points.
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  Speaker 1: The point that was made earlier a moment ago, a
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  Speaker 1: form of institutionalized piracy, said Denmark, as an example, could
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  Speaker 1: theoretically reimpose the transit tolls that for centuries Ritz, principal
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  Speaker 1: revenue earner god said, this would be very direct This
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  Speaker 1: would very directly attack the basic underpinnings of global commerce
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  Speaker 1: toll revenues, but also enrich Iran's resumed by billions of
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  Speaker 1: dollars or even tens of billions of dollars a year. Tayran,
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  Speaker 1: they point out, it's easy. Hey, how about we increase
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  Speaker 1: the fees now we used to charge a buck. Today
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  Speaker 1: it's got to be five or you're not going through.
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  Speaker 1: And the mining threat remains. Questions about the level of
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  Speaker 1: the toll could introduce a new source of geopolitical risk
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  Speaker 1: into the global energy markets in the world economy, he said. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Golf states would likely invest in oil pipelines to bypasses
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  Speaker 1: straight who wrote good exclamation point? Exclamation point after that comment, huh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we'll have to readjust our thinking. Maybe relying on
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  Speaker 1: that global choke point is a bad idea. Maybe there's
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  Speaker 1: a better efficiency that can be achieved, and we just
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  Speaker 1: build a damn pipeline. Well thoughts and comments and strategies
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  Speaker 1: that could be imposed or imply, I'm sorry, applied here
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  Speaker 1: in the United States, but for the global warming nutcases
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  Speaker 1: out there that stand in the way of doing any
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  Speaker 1: pipeline work here in the United States because well, the
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  Speaker 1: environment and carbon dioxide or something. I guess five three seven,
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  Speaker 1: four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to
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  Speaker 1: But that crypto allows them to escape sanctions, and that's
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  Speaker 1: really what Iron has been going for. That's starting to
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  Speaker 1: be embraced more broadly. If everybody goes crypto, you can
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  Speaker 1: kiss the dollars the global reserve currency you buy, I suspect,
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  Speaker 1: don't go away. Plenty to talk about coming up your
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  Speaker 1: phone calls or welcome. I'll be right back.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Donald J.
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  Speaker 4: Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Can I improve this message? Thank you? Don by one
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  Speaker 1: three eight hundred eight, pet three cocksfect fifty on eighth
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  Speaker 1: and funky. We've got Keresey dot com podcast in the
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  Speaker 1: iHeartMedia and a few words from Letting Crew Positive Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Let us see here since it is tech Friday. I
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  Speaker 1: got a few tech stories here, but here's one we're
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  Speaker 1: real linked to. The link to the Iranian war we're
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  Speaker 1: waging here, jays Louise. This is the kind of thing
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  Speaker 1: that truly worries me, hacking into our critical infrastructure system.
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  Speaker 1: And the FBI has just announced it was just a
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  Speaker 1: few days ago Iran linked hackers were behind disruptions to
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  Speaker 1: Internet access United States gas oil, and water companies. FBI
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  Speaker 1: and sister report release said the FBI assesses a group
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  Speaker 1: of Iranian affiliated APT actors APT stands for Advanced persistent
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  Speaker 1: threat groups targeting Internet exposed PLCs with the intent to
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  Speaker 1: cause disruptions to US critical infrastructure organizations. Targeting campaign against
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  Speaker 1: US organizations have recently escalated, likely in response to the
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  Speaker 1: hostilities between Iran, the United States, and Israel. These groups
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  Speaker 1: are targeting programmable logic controllers. That's how we have DAVE anyway.
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  Speaker 1: These are made by Rockwell Automation. According to the report,
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  Speaker 1: they said that it's led to disruptions across several US
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  Speaker 1: critical infrastructure sector sectors. They hit these platforms apparently last January,
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  Speaker 1: and the compromised platform access was stopped in March of
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  Speaker 1: this year. The delay and find out how long had
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  Speaker 1: theyll anyway, it always takes a long time to unring
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  Speaker 1: the bell of being hacked into. Anyway. According to the report,
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  Speaker 1: the group's broke into something called Rockwell five thousand lar
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  Speaker 1: Logic's designer. Well, that's apparently is a program that you
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  Speaker 1: used to control these industrial systems, boiling it down. They
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  Speaker 1: say companies in the United States should urgently review the tactics, techniques,
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  Speaker 1: and procedures and indicators of compromising this advisory for indications
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  Speaker 1: of current or historical activity on their network, and apply
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  Speaker 1: the recommended recommendations listed. So there's a fix that's been released,
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  Speaker 1: But I guess, hey, red Flag, if you've got a
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  Speaker 1: rock Well five thousand logics designer in your system somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the hell that does, then you may have a
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  Speaker 1: problem on your hands. Oil, water, and gas, and just
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  Speaker 1: fortunately electricity isn't in this one. Although we do know
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  Speaker 1: the Chinese communist parties hacked into our electricity infrastructure in
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  Speaker 1: the past. That is frightening stuff. You know, it just
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  Speaker 1: is a moment in time. If you flip that off,
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  Speaker 1: the whole economy comes screech into a halt. Then you
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  Speaker 1: had to have riots in the street. Anyway, the federal
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  Speaker 1: government has accused of these groups of working for Iran.
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  Speaker 1: They target Americans wastewater and water systems in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently they've done this before. In twenty twenty three, a
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  Speaker 1: hacking group called cyber Avenger, associated with the Rons Islamic
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  Speaker 1: Revolutionary Guard Group, broken around seventy five devices. This FBI
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  Speaker 1: to pro director Cash Mattel also personally hacked last month
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  Speaker 1: by the Iranian group Handela Hacked Team, which has been
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  Speaker 1: associated with the Iranian Minister of Intelligence and Security. Hmmm,
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  Speaker 1: they've carried out attacks on Israeli and Western targets, including
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  Speaker 1: US corporations. They have a history of doing this. Back
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  Speaker 1: in March twentieth, the FBI release that Iran's regime has
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  Speaker 1: used the telegram messenging app and social media platforms to
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  Speaker 1: push malware targeting dissidence journalists and other opposition groups around
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  Speaker 1: the world. So you know, there are holes in the
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  Speaker 1: system everywhere, but the idea that you know, these are
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  Speaker 1: systems that are exclusively governed by you know, our overlords
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  Speaker 1: and masters are elected officials with agencies that are supposed
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  Speaker 1: to watch out for our security much in the same
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  Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be watching out for fraud with
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  Speaker 1: the American taxpayer dollar. Just and tired of being well
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  Speaker 1: having our government fail us in this regard. Hopefully we're
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  Speaker 1: learning a lot with each of these hacks, and we
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  Speaker 1: are quickly and diligently going after fixes and prevention mechanisms
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  Speaker 1: to stop it from happening. See everything, Dave Hatter says
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  Speaker 1: every week here in the fifty five care S Morning
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  Speaker 1: Show at six thirty local stories coming up or phone calls.
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  Speaker 1: Either way we go be right back. Five Hey, fifty
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  Speaker 1: Tom's on the line, Happy Friday Toime. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, this is a excuse me. This is
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  Speaker 2: going to be one of those phone calls that shows
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  Speaker 2: what kind of a jirk I am. I guess, okay,
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  Speaker 2: at least at least maybe to some people. Why why
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  Speaker 2: is it okay to feel sorry for for people who
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  Speaker 2: are doing bad things or you know, maybe on another
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  Speaker 2: level they're they're being lazy or irresponsible or something. What
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  Speaker 2: why why is that so important to do? And then
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  Speaker 2: people who are well, that doesn't mean they're doing everything right,
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  Speaker 2: but at least they're trying, you know, they're they're giving
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  Speaker 2: some effort. They're getting up and there, and they're going
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  Speaker 2: to work every day, and and and trying to do
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  Speaker 2: things to support their families or on another level, you know,
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  Speaker 2: better their country or whatever. And but we we gotta
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  Speaker 2: we gotta belittle them, or we got to demonize them
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. But the people who are screwing around, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you can tell it's obvious they're they're doing things on
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: purpose to hurt other people or to steal or whatever,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: or they're being lazy or whatever, we gotta feel sorry
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: for them. We gotta we gotta protect them. I don't
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I don't get that cold concept. It makes no sense
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  Speaker 2: to me.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Well, then another thing that doesn't make any sense to me,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and it's along the same line as an extension of it,
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  Speaker 1: is sort of the predisposition and immediate predicate that it's
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: okay and right and proper to take someone's money and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: merely based upon the fact that they make more. I mean,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: where does it's stealing. It's confiscation of wealth. I mean,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: if you're confiscating your automobiles or your chattel or anything else,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: people would probably raise three forms of holy hell. But
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: becomes because it comes out of your paycheck. They make
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the argument, well, it's unfair. What's unfair about it? If
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you have achieved, you know, something in life, you've made money,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you get a salary that's better than someone else's. Thus
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: it has ever been I applaud people who've been able
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: to do that. You know, there's a lot of people
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: in the world that make a hell of a lot
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: more money than me. But what justification does that give
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: me to want to take more of their wealth. It's,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you know, the same thing, but it's baked into the cake.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: It's not fair. It's not fair. Well, what is unfair
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: about requiring? For example? And I think this is lurking
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: behind your comments, Tom, and correct me if it's not
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: simply the idea that if you you are able bodied
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and of working age, and you are not cognitively impaired,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: You're not struggling from a physical disability. Is something that
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: renders you incapable of entering the work market. What is
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: wrong with requiring someone to at least try to work,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: try to obtain a job, try to get some job
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: training as a predicate for receiving government funds.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody likes accountability. We all get uncomfortable with it
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: if someone is in a position with us to hold
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: us accountable. And I mean our our wives are our bosses,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: you know, if you're a woman, your husband's or whatever.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Nobody likes to be accountable. But there's the responsible side
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of us that goes, you know what, I need to
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: be held accountable. Sometimes knowing someone's there to hold me
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: accountable kind of forces me to do what I should
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: be doing in the first place.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: You hit to nail ahead with it. You have to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: nail on the head with marriage. Tom, That's one of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the benefits of marriage. Someone is there to save you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: from yourself correct.
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  Speaker 2: And this all this, my comments all spring from from
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: these other countries. And this is going at a whole
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: nother end of the spectrum. But these other countries who
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: are vilifying the United States and they're vilifying Israel.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Excuse me?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: What uh it?
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Israel is like the last country you should be vilifying.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: These are people that live in fear hourly of being
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: blown up by some random missile and and you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: they got these things whizzing over their heads and and
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: having to run to bomb shelters on a daily basis.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna vilify them because they want to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: protect their citizens. That's just that doesn't make any sense.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And it's I mean, that's just common sense to me,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and not even on a religious level. We're just talking
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: human common sense. You you're you're living near a country
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: who wants to wipe you off the face of the planet.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: They are, they are stating it out loud, and and
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: they are actively doing things to bring to bring that about.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And you're gonna vilify Israel for protecting itself. That doesn't
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: make any sense at all. That's just absolutely asinine as
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. So screw Spain. Do you wanna
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: do you wanna? You want to vilify the United States
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: and Israel? Screw you. That's the way I think about it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: We do we really need you? I mean seriously, I don't.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I don't get it, and to me it goes this
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: is this is the whole thinking of the left, liberal Marxism,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and they either believe this or they use this crap
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to get their way. So please, people, don't vote Democrat.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Have a great game, Ryan.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And kick Spain out of NATO. I guess I don't know.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Screw Spain. Danny really appreciated that. I looked up at
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the screen that is just cracking up with the big
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: thumbs up side. Yeah, that's right, Danny, you're on board.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I do too, Danny, I love it anyway, real quick,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: here what are the local stories? And congratulations with my
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: friends in Indiana. Your gas tax has been suspended thanks
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to Governor Mike Brown recognizing that the price of gas
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: has gone up, So no gas tax for thirty days.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I am declaring a gas tax holiday to give who's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: your's relief from the paint of the pump from high
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: gas prices. Affordability is my top priority. It's seven percent
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the gas tax in Indiana, but there is a separate
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: excise tax at thirty six cents a gallon. Sadly that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is not affected by the suspension. So Bronze office said
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the thirty day reprieve could be extended depending on how
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: things go. They said the Indiana Attorney General should be
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: enforcing regulations prohibiting retailer price gouging as well. India Age
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Todd Rokita sitting a statement with the suspension of the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: gas tax for thirty days, my office will closely monitor
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: fuel prices to guard against any potential price gouging. Average
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: price per gallon in Indiana on Wednesday, four thirteen a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: little bit lower, three cents lower than the nationwide average.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Indiana week ago is paying three ninety six a month
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: ago three forty six. So that's everybody, you can feel it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: That's one of the realities of the global connections. We
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: have seven thirty or five seven? Where did I get that? Oh,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that's right. It's a five o'clock hour, which means stack
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: is stupid coming up or phone calls either way, it's
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: actually five thirty six right now. I'll be right back.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Can you play John the Fisherman? Oh wow, it must
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: be five forty on a Friday, So of course yes,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: five one, three, seven, nine fifty five, eight hundred eighty
• 24:22
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• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and t phones. If you got something to say, opportunity
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: to do so. But first, even though Joe's not here, Oh,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Jeff's got a smile on his face anyway, He's always
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: anxiously awaiting for Less's bass riff on a Friday. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I'm always enjoying the stack and stupid because I'm still
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: in wake up time here on the fifty five Kossey
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Morning Show. What is with people in drugs? It's just
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: not enough. We need a stronger version. So go ahead,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: get your street drugs and experience rhino trank. Yep, you
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: probably heard about trank animal tranquilizer mixed with fentanyl. We
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: got a brand new one warning from the CDC about
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: an even stronger version. Yes, it's rhino trank, which, parenthetically,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: if you're out there using drugs, apparently doesn't work with
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the loxone. So if you're gonna get inn a loxone shot,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you're gonna die. That's my boiled down analysis of this
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: rhino trank emerging as a highly risky streak drug a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: mix of fentanyl with the animal tranquilizer. Here's a new
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: one for you, metatomidine. According to the Medical Rector with
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: CDC Brian Hurley. It can be dangerous when people use
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: it because it can increase the rate of overdose. It
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: can increase the rate of low blood pressure and other
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: cardiovascular complications. You can die. You compared it to trank,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: which was fentanyl, and a different veterinary relaxing called xylazine,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: which I've even read about myself. This metadomidine is found
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: in There is something out there there a described as
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: far more dangerous, rhino trenk. I guess rhino is being
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: so big. If you're going to try to tranquilize them,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you need something really really strong. Hey, here's some metadomidine. Hey,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I want some of that, So add that to the mix.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: The things you should be concerned about street drugs equal death.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: We got a pastor charged with gross negligence manslaughter after
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a man drowned during a baptism ceremony. This over in
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the UK. Birmingham charge linked to the death of a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: sixty one year old Robert Smith, who drowned in Irdington
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: October of twenty three. Corner to the Crown Prosecution Service,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he was from Brixton. Forty eight year old Cheryl Bartley
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: charged with one crowd of gross negligent manslaughter in relation
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to her role as a pastor during the baptism. Head
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of the Crime Divisions that our prosecutors have worked established
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: that there is a difficient evidence to bring this case
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to court and that it is in the public interest
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to pursue criminal proceedings. We work closely with the West
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Midlands Police carrying out the investigation. Wow, I really wish
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I had more details on how someone could be drowned
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: during a baptism ceremony. Factor that into the risk analysis
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and let's get a local story in here. You may
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: have heard at the top of the hour news Pierce Township.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: We have an eighteen year old Piers Township preschool teacher
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: arrested here yesterday. I multiple charts including grooming, police said
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Christopher Helmer, a Batavia, charged with the following one kind
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of gross sexual imposition, one kind of grooming, one kind
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of pandering sexually oriented matter involving a minor. Initially arrested
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: last month for tampering with evidence. According to police, they
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: showed up or received a report from the staff at
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: jelly Bean Junction Daycare March twenty six. Report said Helmer
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: was seen allegedly kissing a a five year old jellybean
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: junction apparently separated Helmer from the students immediately. According to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the police, he was interviewed by management and fired Tectas
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: spoke with staff members and a parent of the student
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: before interviewing Helmer. During the interview, police said Helmer admitted
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to kissing the five year old student on the mouth.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Also admitted to quote deleting digital photographs of the student
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: close quote in anticipation of being interviewed by police. Police said,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the detective notaby the Klamat County Sheriff's office about the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: deleted photographs. In the sheriff's office arrested Helmer for tampering
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: with evidence March twenty sixth. Yesterday, Pierce Township Police Klima
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office filed the charges above that I just
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: previously mentioned. Additional charges could be added when the case
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: goes before the grand jury. Who's watching your children? Five
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: point forty five?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Right now?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I think you've kerosene talk station more stupid coming up?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Be right back after these words. Five fifty here fifty
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: five KIRCV talks Nation, Happy Friday, Tech Friday, Dave Haddick
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and some other tech items to go over in advance
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: of Tech Friday's Dave Hatter Day would be talking about
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Washington Posts using your route reader data set, its subscription prices,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: among others. Citizen Watchdog Todds ends their full hour with
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: him in studio at seven oh five, Jack Athan with
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the uh Well Friday version of The Big Picture Today
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Losing the Peace, and Jack Windsor from the Press Network
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: at eight thirty days of your Lineup this morning in
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: fifty five cars dot Com to listen to the podcast
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: when you can't listen live to the guests here in
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the morning show Over to the Stack is stupid? What
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: in the hell is this guy's deal? Taking a man
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: taking into custody In Texas County See, Licking Police Department
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: responded to an assault involving a firearm about Courton to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: nine on Monday, and then they learned the sub subject
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: had fled the scene. So the man identified as Dwanne Nelson,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: forty five year old, spotted near a Dollar General or
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Witnesses claimed he crashed into two vehicles at a high
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: rate of speed. After that, he got out of his
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: vehicle to verbally and physically confront and occupant of one
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of the cars and then fled two Delicking Police Department
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: drove to the LPD. Upon arrival, he drove over the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: curb and nearly struck the building. Police stated at that
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: point he grabbed a floorjack from his vehicle and used
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: it to break through two entry doors at the police department,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: damaging the reception's interior safety window. It's pointed out. Officers
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: on the scene noted that he was hiding his hand
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: underneath his shirt before entering the lobby restroom, turning off
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the lights, and using a culking tube to simulate a firearm. Apparently,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: after a brief negotiations, he was taken into custody. Now
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I don't understand this. I he took a breath test
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: that showed his blood alcohol content was point one point
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: one nine, which is beyond the legal limited point zero eight.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I presume it's a legal limit in Texas as well.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: That's not really that drunk, is it. Anyway. That's why
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: it's in the stack of stupid Nelson charging two separate incidents,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the first one assault with a firearm, which led to
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the third degree assault unlawful use of a weapon, armed
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: criminal action, second degree assault unlawful use of a weapon
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: and first degree burglary charges a ten thousand bond in
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: that case. For the second one, regarding running into the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: police department, judge with being over the limit first degree
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: property damage first see here, causing serious physical injury, armed
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: criminal action, and first degree assault. That one netted him
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: a bond of twenty thousand dollars. No word on why
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it is he thought it was appropriate to crash his
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: car into the Los Angeles police department. Here's an interesting one.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: We got to North Platte, Nebraska, where the Sheriff's office
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: istioned a post saying that about four o'clock in the morning,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: deputies shut up through the port of as my fire.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Neil mile Marker won sixty six on six on I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: eighty got their semi trailer fully engulfed in flames. Driver
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: was able to remove the truck before it got out
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: of control, but out of control it did. The semi
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: was loaded with gummy bears, apparently flammable, but they were
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: quick to point out gummy bears and the fire from
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the gummy bears posed no has mat danger, giving you
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: some comfort that I guess it's okay to eat gummy bears.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I'll go to Florida. I gotta have a Florida stack
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: of stupid story. I see I used up all my
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: naked stories yesterday since Joe wasn't here. See here visibly upset.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Apparently the reaction by John Lucas to word that he
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: has to put up one hundred and fifty seven five
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars bonds to get out of jail. He asked
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: it to be lowered. I'll have an ankle monitor, he asked. Sir,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you fled from long enforcement, clashed in, crashed into a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: law enforcement vehicle, and then ended up in the barge
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: canal with your victim in the canal, said the judge.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be reducing your charges cost at
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: this time. Facing eight charges, including attempted second degree murder,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: facts began on Monday. A Brever County deputy say he
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: met up with his ex girlfriend here we go with
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a just walk away story in a parking lot on
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Merit Island, seeking to rekindle their relationship. Give it up, buddy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: When she said no, deputy said, he forced his way
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: into her car and started strangling her. I wonder why
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: she didn't want to get back with you, buddy. That's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: when the Breverd County Sheriff's Office showed up. Accord to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office statement, they got out and started walking
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: up to approach the vehicle. The vehicle went into reverse
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: backed out of the parking lot, pushing one of the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: patrol car vehicles out of the way, hitting it in
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the front right side. Fortunately, no deputy's hurt, just the cruiser,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: they say. Lucas, who's behind the wheel of his ex's car,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: flood the scene with her still on. They drove a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: couple of miles away, and that's when he spotted the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: barge canal. According to the release, he decided to drive
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: off the bridge. We're guessing in an attempt to end
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: both of their lives, so he drove off the bridge
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: into the water. The victim was hurt bad enough that
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: she was unable to get out of the car in
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: her own but fortunately was pulled to safety within minutes.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Lucas he was able to get out of the vehicle
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and evade capture, running through a wooded area in a
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: search that lasts for a few hours, but he wasn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: found until the next day. Now behind bars, victim taken
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to the hospital with non life threatening injuries. It's over, buddy,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Let it go, get a dating app or something, or
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: change your attitude. Five ffty five fifty five KERCD talk
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  Speaker 1: station Tech Friday. But Dave had her coming up at
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: six thirty more tech issues in the top of the
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  Speaker 1: after the top of the air news. I sure hope
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: he can stick around. Or six oh five at fifty
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  Speaker 1: five KIRCD talk station Bryan Thomas wishing everyone a very
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: happy Friday. I hope you get some good plans for
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Even feel free to call five with three
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  Speaker 1: Bottom of the r with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, brought
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  Speaker 1: a quarter of a million vehicles because of a software
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: issue that well causes crashes or raises a crass rish risk.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Spit it out fast forward another hour seven to five.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Citizen watchdog Todd Zenzer, former an Attorney General for the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: United States of America, keeping his watchful eye over the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati's budget antics It's going to be some
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: fascinating topics revealed by Todd Zenzer. Sadly, the city council,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the mayor, and everybody else he asked questions of ignore him.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Fortunately we have him. I was drawing a parallel to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer and Signal ninety nine. Signal ninety nine, of course,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: keeping tabs on the behind the scenes workings of the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: City of Sinni Police Department, Fire Department, Todd Zenzer watching
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: out for finances. Without those two we would be deprived
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of a lot of very useful information. Both both of
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: them bring the goods with them. They have the actual
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: documents and information. They actually look through it. They speak
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: with the whistleblowers behind the scenes, taking over the job
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: of local reporters. That's okay. Everybody can be a citizen reporter.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Jack Advident and we return to Jack Adad and we
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: get him every Wednesday at seven oh five for a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: big picture. He's going to join the show at eight
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: oh five talking about losing the peace. Thank you, Jack
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: for voluntaring to join the program this morning. I appreciate it,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and I always look forward to hearing from you, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy hearing from Jack as well, so
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: two doses of Jack addident If he didn't get a
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• 36:32
  Speaker 1: check that podcast out. And as has become the case,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: eight p thirty on a Friday means Jack Windsor from
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  Speaker 1: the Ohio Press Network hold on, thank God for the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: cough button. Should Ohiolans or should Ohio apply the same
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  Speaker 1: ID standards to every ballot? Amy acton hiring Hillary Clinton's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: campaign lawyer, and election experts, there's a suggestion why you
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: shouldn't vote for Amy and Ohio lawmaker labeling a child
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: protection bill a distraction from the hunger crisis. That apparently
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: somebody in Ohio or somebody in Columbus thinks that's going on.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Try to reconcile those. We'll let Jack do that at
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  Speaker 1: eight thirty five three seven four nine fifty five hundred
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: eight hundred eight two to three talk. You know, I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: since I was going to mention a couple of text stories,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I'll start with this one. It's good news for a Friday.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I was impressed by this this zoo's results. The wilds
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  Speaker 1: in Cumberland, Ohio, which is described as about ninety minutes
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: east of Columbus. I had never heard it before. It's
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: about ten thousand acres home to more than five hundred
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: animals twenty eight round endangered specie. So positive news from
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: this this, I guess. Last week they announced a couple
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: of days ago the birth of a female cat a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: white rhino Southern White rhino born at the wilds. The
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: third for mom Calli, who's a twelve year old Southern
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: White Rhino sired by Bernard. And it's Bernard. I've circled
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: here because I did something funny with tech on that one.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: He's now had seven. He's the dad to seventeen rhinos.
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  Speaker 1: So we have another white rhino, which at one point
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: we're on the brink of extinction. Apparently in the early
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds there were fewer than one hundred of them. Poachers.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You know, we know about poachers. They're subject to the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: award winning this morning, and you know the loss of habitat, etc.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But with conservation efforts the populations have increased, although they're
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: still classified as near threatened. But congratulations of the Wilds
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: of Cumberland. It's maybe an opportunity to head on up there.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: At some point and check it out. But I thought
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to myself, Bernard, Wow, seventeen dads in captivity. And so
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I was joking around with my wife. I said, you
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: know what, I got to chat GPT and ask it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to write an Irish folks song version or story about
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Bernard the white rhino who sired seventeen children. And sure enough,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: in a matter of one second, it turned out a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: multi verse song about the exploits of Bernard the right
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: white Rhino. Chorus, Oh, Bernard the right white Rhino, bold
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: and so grand father of seventeen the might of the land,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: with tusks like the moon and a spirit so free
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: he roamed through the grasslands, a site to be seen.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: So funny stuff out of chat EPT. That's the only
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: use to which I put it. All right back over
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the tech issues, and we've got an amazing report here,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and it's not a positive one. I mentioned the report
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: talking from the FBI about the Iranian hackers hacking into
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: our oil, gas and water infrastructure. But in so far
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: as Americans like you know, run of the mill, Americans
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: like you and me, the FBI came out with the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: figure cybercrimes now are costing the collective twenty one billion
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: with a B dollars, and artificial intelligence, of course, is
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: behind some of the biggest increases in the cybercrime. They
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: are effectively using AI to dupe people who otherwise you'd
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: think wouldn't be duped, According to the agency in its
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: statement from earlier this week, Americans who submitted complaints involving
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: cryptocurrency reported the highest losses, with one hundred and eighty
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: one thousand, five hundred and sixty five complaints that relate
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: to more than one eleven billion in total losses. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that's complaints that is a fraction of the reality because
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: many people don't bother alerting the FBI when they've been
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: ripped off, primarily or at least sometimes out of embarrassment
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: or for lack of knowledge that you should alert the
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: FBI if one of these scams comes your way the
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: FBI's Internet Crime Complaints Center. So total losses of twenty
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: point eighty seven billion last year alone more than twenty
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: times higher than the one billion of losses reported in
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and odds are that's going to go through
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the roof even more as the years progress, number of
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: complaints surged, rising from two hundred and eighty eight thousand
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to more than a million. They said, it's for the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: first time and it's nearly twenty five year history. The
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Internet Crime Complaints Center report features a section on AI.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: They broke it down into different areas to twenty two
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: thousand plus complaints related to ripoffs from AI exclusively, coming
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in at just under one billion dollars, twenty six percent
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: higher than the prior year. They get nearly three thousand
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: complaints a day, so over to AI, synthetic content becoming
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: more difficult to detect and Dave Hatters talked about this
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a lot. AI lets the actors potentially conduct successful fraud
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: schemes against individuals, businesses of financial institutions, generating officials sounding emails,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: mimicking a company's CEO or other officials through a voice,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: mimicking voices, mimicking emails, mimicking letterheads. Those emails usually contain
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: phishing links or directions to wire funds red Flag, Red Flag,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Red Flag, And of course AI has been used successfully
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: in a lot of romance and investment scams. They're saying
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: crypto fraud another break broken out area up one percent
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: from last year, average loss being sixty two thousand dollars.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: They say, people may be targeted by scanners who direct
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: them to make payments via crypto ATMs fictition. Oh and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: here's this is what I thought was really nefarious. So
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: you know, if someone out there is asking this wire money, no,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: don't do it. I guess that's the boil down point.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: But look, those who have been successfully targeted by scammers
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: are followed up with scam targeting by fictitious law firms
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: seeking to exploit them with fake offers of recovering funds.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Hey we got an alert that you've had your funds
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: ripped off. We're from the law firm of Dewey Cheathaman.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: How we're here to help you a follow up scam.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Talk about kicking someone while they're down. These people are
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: absolutely the scum of the earth. And then, of course
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the all present, all encompassing elder fraud. More than almost
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a half our quarter of a million complaints from individuals
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: over sixty last year, the highest number of complaints of
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: course for any age group. Seven point seven billion in losses,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: which is up fifty nine percent from twenty twenty four.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Average loss for my senior friends out there just under
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: thirty nine thousand dollars, with more than twelve thousand individuals
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: losing more than one hundred thousand dollars. Top schemes, investment fraud,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: government impersonations, romance scams. US Secret Service advises people to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: be wary of unsolicited communications from unknown people and businesses.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Do you pick up phone calls where you don't recognize
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the number? Do you open emails that may be questionable
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that have links in them? I don't, I learned from
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Dave Man. Never click on the links. Don't do it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: My mom thought it was you know, I thought it
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: was something personal against her. It's no, Mom, I don't
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: click on links. It could be someone else impersonating you.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Agency warned against handing over personally identified, personally identifiable information passwords,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: bank account codes. And when I read that, I see
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I'm even bringing this up today because I find it
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: impossible in this world where this has been going on
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: for so many years, and Dave's brought it up almost
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: every single Friday for so long. Not that the entire
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: world has listened to Dave ad Or on Friday here
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: in the Morning Show, but word has gotten out, why
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: would you give anyone your password, your bank information? And
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: they always point out secret service. Set it again in
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: this notice. Government agencies will never call you on the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: phone or threaten you or a loved one with arrest
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: or legal action if you do not agree to remit
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: payment for things like debt collections, release from jail, immigration
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: status issues. They in almost every single case, notices from
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: government offices and agencies start with an official letter sent
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: via regular mail, So hang up on them. If you
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: make the mistake of answering the phone, go directly to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the account that you set up that you know is
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: connected to the business or entity that's seeking their purporting
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to be them. Contact them directly. Just stop doing it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: If it's important, somebody will leave a message, they'll follow up.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: If it's not important, and you don't have to worry
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: about some cop knocking on your front door with handcuffs
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: getting ready to arrest you, unless, of course, you go
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: down to the corner market and get an iPhone's card
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: or something. Six sixteen fifty five krs the talk station
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  Speaker 1: six at fifty five KRCD talk station Hope you have
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a really happy Friday. David sitting down right now with
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the late carestreker Joe Joe Strecker's father who passed away
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: missing Joe's trekker. Although Danny Gleason is covering for Joe
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: as he deals with the aftermath of that. Davy Hairstreker
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is sitting down with David having a big old glass
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: of Shlivovitz this morning. Yeah, right west side Jim. That
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: was his favorite booze. Shlive of it. It's it's pretty
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: wicked stuff. I think it's made out a plumb or
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: something distinctly European. So hoist a glass in honor of
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the late Hairstreker. Joe, Hope everything's quing okay in your
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: world and in my world. Just a reminder since Christopher
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Smithaman's lifting listening this morning, Good morning, Christopher. I wanted
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to know about Monday and Tuesday. I am off Monday
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: and Tuesday. It's been my experience after the last three
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: cancer treatments, one of which I got yesterday, the second
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: one today. I do two treatments a month for six
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: total months, so that today is my fourth round that's over,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: and I got two more two day rounds that'll be
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: in next month and then in June, and I'll be done.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: But what happens is it wipes me out, so I'm
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: going to be fine uping through tomorrow, if history's any guide,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: and then Sunday I'll feel like the wind gotten out,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: knocked out of my sales. I get brain foggy, and
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I can't really communicate. Not that I can really do
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: a very good yabu it even today, but even less
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: so on a post treatment weekend. So I'm taking Monday
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and Tuesday off. Dan, Carol, if you're out there, thank
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you for covering for me, and I'll be back next Wednesday.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: God Willing five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty eight
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  Speaker 1: two three talk talking about scams and text since we've
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: got Dave Fratter coming up. One more iPhone users are
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the target of eight new scam warning from the data
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: research site Consumer Affairs. Fake Apple pay fraud alerts described
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: as a high pressure called to victims to trick them
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: into calling the scammers and giving away personal information. Here
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you go, don't answer the damn phones or ignore the text.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: One illustration victor reported receiving a text warning about a
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: suspicious Apple pay charge. See I don't use the pay
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: apps either. I don't have to worry about this anyway,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: urging her to call the number for help. So oh
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: she did, got connected with a scammer who pretended to
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: be investigator, who convinced her to withdraw fifteen thousand dollars
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: from her bank account. Fortunately for her, the bank teller
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: recognized the scam and and and and told her to
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: give up on the call. Manipulative scammers using a sense
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: of urgency and authority to take advantage of fear the
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: consumers have when presented with a suggestion of fraud. Maybe
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the default mode for us is to not be fearful anymore.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Just don't be afraid. Scammers going to claim your money
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: is at risk, may have your personal to ask your
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: personal details, or may have personal details about you because
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: they're all out there. Oh this sounds legitimate. They have
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: my personal information. Yeah, you ever got to notice that
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: your information's out there on the dark web. I've gotten
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: a bunch of them before. Anyway, they urge you to
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: act immediately, and they're really the high pressure tactics. And
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: going back to seniors who are the largest victims of
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: scams online, they're the ones most likely this has come
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: to high pressure tactics. Here are the red flags unexpected
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: messages about Apple pay request to haul a number in
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that message pressure to act immediately, instructions to move money
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: or lie to the bank. There's no node. Lie to
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the bank teller, tell them it's for your nephew or something.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Request for codes, passwords or personal information that yet Yeah, yeah,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: red flag, red flag, Red red flag.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Jay.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show. Happy Friday to you.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Hey, Happy Friday. Brian All to talk about frauds necessitated.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Me to call in.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I've heard that, you know jd Vance who was the
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: frauds Are, which I was glad somebody was frauds Are.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know that he'd be my first pick to
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: do that just based on resume.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Well, Tamala Harris, Kamala Harris was the borders Are she
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: failed to that. Why don't you give them a couple
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: of minutes to try to get things in order before
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you start drawing conclusions about his competency on that one.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's behind us now because now the
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: other thing on his resume I guess is he can
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: negotiate the end to a war. And when you're when
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: you're when you're combatant, when your enemy says I I
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: want this to be the negotiator. I think the two
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: words which your father would say, and it isn't happy birthday.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: He's got a full time job. And we don't let
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: our enemies pick who's going to be in the negotiating
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: who you're going to negotiate with.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: They say the only person we will talk with is
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: jd Vance. May push you into a corner on that,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: but then you might have to say, well, then we're
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: not going to negotiate or I guess that. Are you
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: saying that jd Vance is incapable of doing that? If
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: you say no, jd Vance is.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Not our guy, I don't know the list of jd
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Vance isn't my guy because I don't know what his
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: accomplishment has been. Anybody that's a fan of JD.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Advance just let me know what he's.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Done other than past the break and the tie breaking
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: vote for the Big Beautiful Bill, which Thomas Massey points
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: out assure Joe Biden's level of funding of the federal government.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: He was there.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: And when when do we think it's a good idea
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: to let our enemies tell us so they want it's
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: a negotiating table and we capitulate to that.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Well, when do we think it's a good idea to
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: agree to share share tolls to the strait of our
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: moves with the Iranians. That sounds like a totally screwed
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: up idea. So yeah, it's kind of like we're all
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: lined by the seat of our pants on this. And
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: you know, while we can condemn or criticize JD Vans
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: for some issue here and some issue there, I understand that,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: But I'm also one that's not going to engage in
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: a knee jerk reaction on whether or not he's going
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: to be able to manage the fraud, waste and abuse issue.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: He's not doing it himself. He's the oversight guy, he's
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the CEO, he's got people below him. And they just
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: announced the other day eight thousand indictments or eight thousand
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: folks in connection with trillion or a trillion dollars total
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: of fraud, waste and abuse at the BEHS. The Jdvans's
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: control over this, it's a step in the right direction.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Prosecutions take forever. And with the Justice Department wiped out
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: of the Wolke prosecutors they used to have, they're hiring
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a bunch of young people right out of law school.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Apparently we learned, and trust me, those folks do not
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: have the competence to manage major litigation involving fraud cases.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: So it's Charlie Foxtrott. It will not stop quickly, but
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: at least steps have been made in the right direction,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm willing to hope that this trend continues. Appreciate it, Jay,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Your criticisms come through loud and clear,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm not denying them. Six twenty seven, BUTFY five
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  Speaker 1: cares to Detalk Station sixty two hity five carsit Detalk
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  Speaker 1: Station Happy Friday, Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Love this segment.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Learn a lot. I've heeded Dave's warnings over the years.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I think I've avoided many of the missteps and amid
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: these swirling reports about fraud and they need these text
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: message and email scams and artificial intelligence ripping more and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: more people off every year to the tune of billions
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: of dollars. Dave Hatter interest it dot com that's his
• 52:40
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• 52:42
  Speaker 1: business when it comes to your business as commuter needs
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and he will keep you out of trouble. Welcome back,
• 52:46
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• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Hey, Brian, always good to be here in my prayers
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: and condolences for Joe and his family.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Definitely, I appreciate you mentioning that. And what is this
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: with the Washington Post using reader Dave to set subscription
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: prices this way? Depending on how rich you are is
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: how much you're going to pay?
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is this is a perfect example, Brian,
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: And one of the reasons why I had sent this
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: to do. You know, we've talked about the idea of
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: dynamic pricing off and on over the years. The idea
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: that you know, because all these companies can collect data
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: about you through the actually US or so called smart
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: devices and so forth, they can know that perhaps you
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: live in a more affluent, a more affluent area than me,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: so you get a different price, Right's I joked about
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: that day.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: That's the way it was when I lived in oak Park, Illinois.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: You were charged less to have a home repair, like
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: an HVAC repair at Oak Park than the neighboring the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: next neighborhood over the more affluent River Forest. It was
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: like the river Forest price in the Oak Park price.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what you're talking about here, exactly.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: But now it's gone to a new level because, you know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: instead of just the ability to say, well, okay, we
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: think because of your IP address or whatever, or you
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: live in a more fluid area. Now there's so much
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: data out there about you. When we see this, do
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: all these data bridges all the time. It's one of
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: the reasons why I am constantly trying to convince people
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: that less apps, less Internet of Things devices are better
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: because the less data there is about you, the less
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: data there is the breach which can be used, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in all kinds of ways against you. This is just
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  Speaker 4: one more way now with the idea of not just
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  Speaker 4: dynamic pricing, but surveillance pricing. Right, you may have heard
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: the term, I know I've said it on here before,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: surveillance capitalism, the idea that if you're using something that's free,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: you are not the customer, you are the product. You're
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: paying with your data. Well, now all that data is
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: being used to say, okay, it's not just that we
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: think you're in let's say High Park or Oakley, it's
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: we know that you have a subscription to this, and
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: you have this type of car, and you make around
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: this amount of money. So we're going to charge you
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: a lot more than internet person that comes along. And
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: you know, you even see this now with things like
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: the electronic dynamic shelf tag. You know, it is entirely
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: possible through begoning and so forth, that when you go
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: into a store they can identify your cell phone and
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: know that you can pay more than me. So when
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: you go to pick up off the shelf, you get
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: a different price than me because the tags are electronic
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: now they don't have to be switched out by clerk manually.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: That's yeah, isn't it great? It's a great new world.
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  Speaker 4: So the Washington were reported here the Washington Post is
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  Speaker 4: using reader data to set subscription prices, right, and that's
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: essentially what this article is saying. They go on to
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: say the post use of the algorithmic pricing is not surprising,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: giving the newspaper's recent fixation on artificial intelligence, consider its
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: anti powered search engine robot Let podcast. We asked the
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  Speaker 4: Post for common algorithm pricing mechanisms spokes and directed us
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: to a blog post from the publication's engineering team. The
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: article explains how an AI driven quote smart metering model
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: unquote determines the number of free articles booths anonymous users
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: who are not registered on their website and registered users
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: who have free online accounts that paid subscription can access
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  Speaker 4: this where a paywall pops up, But it doesn't specifically
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  Speaker 4: touch on how the post use subscriber information to determine pricing.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. It sounds like a socialist future dream, davey
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: will they will be ordered to lower prices based upon
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: someone's socioeconomic status. You will not be able to charge
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: someone who's on the lower ar tier echelons of the
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  Speaker 1: economy as much as someone who can afford to pay more.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Can you see it, Dave?
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah? And here you go Brian so further in the article,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: instacart recently killed an algorithm for algorithmic pricing model that
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: allowed grocery stores to charge certain shoppers as much as
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: two dollars and sixty five cents more for the same item. Again,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: this goes along with the explanation of the general concepts
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: of this, and then they say, you know, well, what
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: can you do? Is it possible for post subscribers to
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: delemit how much personal information to come with access? Yes
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: and no quote. Most of the time we give up
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: data when we accept the user agreement unquote, using a
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: bare bones dune phone as a post with smartphone to
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: read articles can see it can offer some anonymity as
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: con visiting the website using a VPN. It's not impossible,
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: but it requires a lot of effort, you know. And
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: it's the same kind of thing you and I have
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: been talking about for a long time. And this is
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: just another concrete example of how you giving up all
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: this data to use these quote free unquote apps for
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: IoT devices and so forth ultimately backfires on you in
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: a long way.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: You're still paying for it in one way or another.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Dave will continue after the break, just joy I six
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: forty two. I think about KROSD talk station, Dave Hatter,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: interest it dot com, there the ones in contact for
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: business related computer needs and sponsors of the segment. Dave
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Hatter PayPal had a breach. I guess, huh. I don't
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: use PayPal either.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Nor do I.
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  Speaker 1: Brian.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Again, as I said in the last segment, I try
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: to use this few of these things as possible because
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: of the idea that we just talked about in the
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: last last segment, and we touched a little bit on this.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: The main thing I want to focus on here, you know,
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: the idea of surveillance pricing as these companies collect more
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: and more information and okay, keeping folks again and whatever,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Facebook or fill into blank, TikTok or whomever has about you. Right,
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: this stuff can be sold to other companies. So even
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: if you don't use PayPal today, if you decide to
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: use it tomorrow, could you get charged different prices or whatever?
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: Work in fill into blank, Amazon, Walmart, whatever, because they're
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: buying data from other companies that have it about you
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: even though you're not using their thing up to this point.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: And the answer is yes. So in this particular case,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: apparently PayPal has notified customers of breach after a software
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: error expose sensitive personal information including social security numbers, for
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: nearly six months last year. Now, apparently this is just
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: one what I would describe as feature a function of
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: PayPal incident effect that the PayPal Working Capital Load app
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: provides small businesses with quick access to financing. Again, I
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: don't use PayPal, nor have I used that particular app.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: They discovered the breach on December twelfth of last year.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: The termine customers names, email addresses, phone numbers, businesses, those
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: your numbers and dates of birth has been exposed since
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: July of that year. Else you'll have twenty twenty five. Well,
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: that's pretty much everything that would be useful for a
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: bad guy to impersonate you, either a to perpetrate at
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: against you by taking out loans and so works in
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: your name, or b to use all that information to
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: convince you that they are a legitimate agency. They're reaching
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: out to you because there's some problem. And again, if
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: you take things like surveillance pricing out of it for
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: a second, Brian, if I had all the information I
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: just described about you that they leaked, could I pretend
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: to be your bank? Could I pretend to be to
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: hamblin account of share for whomever? And when it seemed
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: really legitimate, when I have all of this information telling
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: you that you know you've got X, Y or z,
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: and you need to do this thing so that they
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: can steal your money. And this is this is the
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: main reason why for a long time I've tried to
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: convince people the less apps you have the better, The
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: less of these things you use are the better. Now
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: I understand, I really I do understand the convenience factor
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: of you's sin. I understand why people like click a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: venmo and cash app and all that stuff. I get it.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: I understand why people like to be able to go
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: pull a parking lot, scan a Q hard code, even
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: though there's no way to look at it. I know
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: that it's good. I get the I get the appeal
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: of these things.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: But every day there's another story like this coming out,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: whether it's data's been breached and now you know, here's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: your free credit monitoring.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: For two years.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Good luck, you know, hope you don't lose your house
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: over this or whatever. Now, if you have been involved
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: in a situation like this and you get a data
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: breach notification via email, do do not click the links,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Do not call the numbers, because it's probably a scam.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: If you think that the bad guys who read these articles,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: go wait a minute, Okay, here's a whole new set
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: of targets for us to go after to try to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: convince them that we're PayPal or whomever. Hey, you've been
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: breached through this thing, you know. If you think you've
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: fall into this category, wait for your physical letter that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: comes and be a postal mail from PayPal, and then
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: follow in this tructions. Yes, you should sign up to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: the free credit monitoring. You should do whatever they tell
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: you to do, or you reach out to them, you know,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: using a known, verified mechanism. But yeah, as this happens
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: more and more and we see it all the time,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: and in this case it sounds like it was a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: software error, not necessarily a hackers attack them. A software
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: error exposed this data so bad guys can find it
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: and use it. To me, it's, you know, just illustrative
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: of less apps. And you know, I'll post all this
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: on my substacks that people can get these articles, and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: I'll post my more privacy friendly options. So hopefully, Brian,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: after years and years and years of us talking about this,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: more people will go, you know, maybe maybe Dave doesn't
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: seem quite as insane, and maybe I should use less
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: of this stuff and go for the more privacy friendly things.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Right, the world was not that difficult or complicated for
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: me anyway before the apps showed up, and I'm comfortable
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: just continuing with my old school ways. Maybe you call
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: me a ludite. I don't have to worry about the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: stuff that Dave talks about every single week. At least
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I don't have to worry to a lesser degree. Hold on,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: we got more with Dave. It's a six fifty want
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: if if you have KCD talkstation, intrust dot com of
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: course Dave Hatter who is it's his company for all
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: your business computer needs. And if you want to know
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: how to get the substack that he's referring to to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: get the articles he relies on for the segment, go
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: to LinkedIn dot com and just search Dave Hatter. You
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: will easily find him. Dave forward with another recall, this
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: time more than a quarter of a million dollars. What's
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: this one all about?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: A software issue.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing that I think is fascinating about it, Brian,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: And it makes the point I keep making over and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: over and over again about the Internet of things. What
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: are the Internet of things or aka so called I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: always like to say smart quote unquote devices, Your TV,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: your refrigerator, your doorbell, now, your car. Everything has software
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: in it. And a lot of this stuff comes from
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: adversarial nations. You may recall, and I'll put this in
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: the stack for next week for a recent warnings from
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: the FBI about routers and so forth coming from China.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: So much of this stuff you know that has software,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: and the software is not designed with your privacy and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: security in mind. It's focus on speed to market, market share,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: ease of use, collecting your data. And as we add
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: more and more software to things in the physical world. Right,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about microsoftware on your computer or some
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: software on your Mac or your Android phone or whatever.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about real world physical devices that we rely
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: on every day to do things. Like a car that
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: is now completely controlled by software. The software has bugs,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: it can be hacked. That's been demonstrated before. And you know,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: here's just another example of it. Ford motor or Company
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: is at home where the two undred fifty ten four
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: thousand vehicles in the US to do a software issue
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: that can disable rearview cameras and other driver assistance features. Now,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: you know that's not terrible. Necessarily, I would argue, you know,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: rearview camera is one of the most beneficial features of
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: modern cars. But you know, it's not as bad as
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: if it could like shut off the engine or dismantle
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: the brakes or something like that. Right, I mean, think
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: about it, Bran, And we've talked about this before, and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: there's been a lot of research into this. Imagine it's
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: an adversarial nation and pick any car company, Tesla for
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: General Motors, or all car companies. It's a foreign adversary
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: could just disable all of the cars from a certain manufacturer,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: or maybe not disable them, maybe turn them into weapons
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: because all of a sudden they decide to accelerate until
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: they run into something.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Right you brought that, Yeah, yeah, and I mean this.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: My issue is not that software is ad again, it's
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: what I did for twenty five years. My issue is
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: we are rushing to make everything digital, to make everything interconnected,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: to make everything rely on everything else that's interconnected, because
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: these companies have a maracious appetite for your data for
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: reasons we just discussed earlier, and rather than focused on
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: you know, being focused on your privacy and or security
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: as a consumer using these devices, the incentive is always
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: the opposite. It's towards the company. You know, they want
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: to be able to say, well, you know what, here's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: your free heated seats in their new car. But because
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: their software control now we're going to turn them off
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: after three months. Oh you want to use you want
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: to use your defoster, Well, that's an extra dollar a
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: month or whatever. I mean. Obviously, some of the safety
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: features they would get enormous kickback, and I guess yeah, don't.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: I don't think the government would allow them to say, Okay,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: you can use your winchel Wie versus three months. You're
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: going to have to pay a subscription fee for that.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: But the bottom line is that's where we're headed. Where
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: anything can be turned off remotely, anything can be hacked remotely.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: And again this is just so if you happen to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: have a Ford vehicle, you want to look into this.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: This recall says in this article. Owners can serch for
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: the vehicle's recall status using their bent on the NHTSA
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: website beginning March twenty fifth, where encourages owners to contact
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: their customer service. So, again, I'm not here to point
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: out Ford specifically are even this particular recall. To me,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: it speaks to the larger issue of we keep making
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: things smart quote unquote, and then smarter with more software
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: that controls more features, and whether you're unhappy about it
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: because they can remotely decide that you can't use a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: feature unless you pay more money for it. They decide
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: you can't fix it yourself because it violates the intellectual
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: property of the software that they've provided. You know, or
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: a foreign country decides some day that just slip the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: switch and turn it off or turn it into some
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: kind of weapon. People need to start to really think
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: hard about and our society really needs to consider the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: risk that we're adding by all of these so called
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: smart devices that have been proven now time and time
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: again to be easily hackable. People don't know how to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: configure in correctly. They don't know if the software and
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: it's being updated correctly, or if it's even being updated
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: at all. And most of these things are trying to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: spy on you because they want your data so they
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: can hit you where a surveillance of pricing down the road, no.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Doubt about it. Insurance companies can tap into what they've
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: blow back you. Maybe you adjust your insurance premium based
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: upon your driving habits. I hate I hate that as well.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter find day for your computer business needs and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: problems intest i dot com. Go to linkedini LinkedIn dot
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: com to find Dave Hatter in the articles you refers
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: to through each and every week. Dave, thank you for
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: the work you're doing on our collective. Behalf for those
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: who choose to disregard Dave. You do so your own peril. Dave,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: have a fantastic weekend, my friend. We'll do this again
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: next Friday.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. I look forward to it.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I do too. Six fifty seven fifty five cars the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: talk station in studio Todd Zenz are our own citizen watchdog.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: We'll get to him right after the news. Seven oh
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: five fifty five car CD talk station have a very
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Fridays figure around all hour here because in studio I
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: plus Todd Zenzer. So he decides to retire after being
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: an inspector jenner for the United States of America for
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: years and years and years, you know, looking for fraud,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: waste and abuse and making sure the eyes are properly
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: died of the teaser properly crossed and learned a lot
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: in that experience. So after he retires, what does he
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: do in his retirement? He isn't sitting around or playing golf.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: He is being the Inspector general for no money for
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. And man, Todd Zenzer, you have
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: done some great work exposing well, I think we can
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: boil it down what seems to be just batcrap insanity
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: from the from the council, the mayor and the city
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: manager and those that's around them. Good morning, Todd Zenzer,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: thanks for coming in.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: Good morning, Brian, thank you.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been following your Citizen Watchdog. That's the podcast.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: That's where you find Todd on Facebook, and that's where
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: you will see the accompanying exhibits that he regularly gives
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: to the City of Cincinnati and ask questions about how
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: can this be and never gets answers, But the question
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: themselves are always built on and predicated on facts, Todd,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: unlike the random musings of politicians, you know, lying to us,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: or you know, hiding the truth or not even addressing
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: the truth, you always come armed and that is a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: valuable thing you're doing for the city, even though obviously
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: some don't appreciate it. Let's talk about one of your
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: posts from the other day now. Apparently, as a consequence,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: as you've explained to me off air, as a consequence
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: of the post, sit and felled pastor criminal issues involving
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: accepting payments in order to you know, get positive votes,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: there was a reform or certain reforms that were put
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: in place, and from the reforms sprung this idea that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: you flag the other day about clients that are paying
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: money to be represented before the City of Cincinnati to
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: ensure that they continue to get money flowing to their
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: non governmental organizations. Yes, So the history is the city's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: been handing over cash some random and they're running a
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: risk of having that cash stopped, so they go out
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: and they hire a law firm to go in front
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: of the city council. So the money trail you have
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: obviously traced is they get money from the taxpayers and
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: then use that money to hire a law firm to
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: ensure that they continue to get money from taxpayers.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: There are several several of those cases that I saw
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: on the documents that were submitted to the city from this.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: They call them legislative agents and their lobbyists lobbyists, right,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: But this reform is actually I believe Steve Gooden was
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: the person that pushed this reform to have these legislative
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: agents disclose who they're working for and what issues they're
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: working on. And so there is a report online, but
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: it's not very good in terms of when they have
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: to report and when they drop off. So this particular
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: list was predicated on this legislative agent leaving her firm,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: and I think she went out on her own, and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: as a result, she had to list all the clients
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: that she was representing as a termination.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Filing because it's an obligation as a consequence of the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: reform law the year did that's right now, is the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: way the law or the change or the whatever provision
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: provides for this disclosure? Is it very clear? Does it
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: clearly identify the amount, quality, level of information that they
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: must submit or is it kind of loosey goosey, because
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: what I hear from you is what's been reported is
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: kind of hazy, not real clear.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: Right, There's two problems. One is the amount of detail
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: that's required, which is not very much. But the other
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: is the timing issue of when they have to file
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: and then when they have to update their filing and
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: things like that. And it's not just it's not a
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: very useful report.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Well, you've obviously identified areas that could be fixed. So
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: with a subsequent change, you can have a date deadline
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: by which you must submit maybe penalties or just the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: fair to comply with the guidelines. Here in results in
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: your never being able to receive money from the City
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati taxpayers. And we could go on and on
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: about filling in the holes and that that exists there.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: So I guess the sort of rhetorical question, because I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: know the answer is no, is do you think they'll
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: do anything about it?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: Not this city council.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Todd. Do elections have consequences? So let's let's illustrate some
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: of the ones you're talking about. Do we do we?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, do we know how much money these organizations
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: have been receiving. No, that's all we don't.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: That's all between the client and the lobbyist.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, And who is responsible ultimately for saying, okay, particular Engia,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: we are going to select you to get the money.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Is that a since any council approved list? Or is
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: this something that that share along the city manager or
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I have to have provoll have the unique authority to
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: do well?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: I think I think that's that's the main question, Brian.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: I found that I don't even I don't even know
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: at this point how many NGOs or nonprofits receive grants
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: from the city. I've counted just in one set of
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: programs on the general fund side, I counted two hundred
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: and thirty five. Now there are some overlap there, so
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: it's probably closer to two hundred. But that's just one
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: set of programs. There are thirty four different grant programs
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: that the city runs from both the general fund and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: then what they call the Community Development Grant program, which
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: comes from the federal government. So they got local money,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: they got state money, they got federal money, and they
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: spend most of the year distributing that money.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: And the decision on whether or not to distribute is
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: not clearly known to you who has that authority. I mean,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: I thought previously you had said that MAREF to have
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: pervol can randomly just pick and choose.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: What well is.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: That's one of the programs. That's the Leverage Support program.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: And if you look at the budget, you have to
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: wonder the way it works. The ngngos or the nonprofits
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: apply for the grant to the city manager. She comes
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: up with her recommendations, and then both the mayor and
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: the city council members can put make adjustments to the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: city manager's amount. And what I found is that over
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: the last six years those adjustments by the mayor and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: the city council costs the city an additional seven million dollars.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: So the city manager comes in with her amount, and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: then the mayor and the city council go through the
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: list and they say, well, I want to give that
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: one fifty thousand more dollars. We want to give this
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: one an additional one hundred thousand dollars, and then they
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: vote on they vote on it.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me pause and ask you this question. How
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: do they determine the additional amount that they claim is necessary?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Is there any supporting documentation? I was specifically told that
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: for want of additional fifty thousand dollars, they weren't going
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: to be able accomplished X, Y, and Z goals, which
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: is what we want them to accomplish. Anything like that
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: go along with the additional ask no, so they pull
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: one out of their sphincter. They just reach around and
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: say one hundred thousand dollars.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: Right, that's my concern and what I have I've told
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: I've told this to the council this year and last year.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: The least you could do is when you submit your
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: list of adjustments, which is what they do. They submit
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: a list of adjustments that they want to make. I says,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: the least you could do is when you submit that list,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: you could put a little attestation on the bottom. I
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: do not have a conflict of interest with any of
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: these organizations.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, so fair enough. What we know that the mayor
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: himself has a conflict of interest with the organizations that
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: are getting money. Remind my listeners out there, and maybe
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: some of the council members might have people listening on
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: their behalf that specific point that you had previously.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I've I've actually gone down and asked the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: mayor during public comments like this, shouldn't you shouldn't do this.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: But I don't think anything's changed. And I brought it
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: up again at a budget hearing this year. Is that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: I found, just by chance that the mayor sits on
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: the board of directors of an outfit called Centrifuse, which
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: is a entrepreneur support supporting organization, and they I'm sure
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: they do great work, but we've been giving them a
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: quarter of a million dollars every year. And the normal
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: everyday citizen looks at that and says, you mean the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: CEO of that group is earning three hundred thousand dollars
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: a year and the city has to give them a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: quarter of a million dollars. And then there's another one
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: called Compass I found. I found this is actually disclosed
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: on his financial statement or his financial disclosures.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of the mayor.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: H CENTRIFEWS is not declared, but he did declare that
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: he sits on the board of an outfit called Compass,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: which deals with immigration advocacy and.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: Things like that.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: And that's the one where the CEO is making three
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. No, that's that's that's Centric Center. Okay,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: see I'm already confused. Yes, mentioned a handful of these organizations.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: So the ultimate point being the mayor sits on boards
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: of directors on NGOs that receive city money, and he
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: has the authority to increase, decrease, or otherwise approve or
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: add an NGO to the list of groups receivers.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: I haven't seen that yet, but they definitely can add money.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: And one of the one of the council members actually
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: asked me the other day, well, the mayor doesn't doesn't
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: vote on the budget or doesn't vote on ordinances, and
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: I yeah, but the charter says that the budget is
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: a product of both the mayor and the city.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Manager, and he also enjoys the ability to control funding levels,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: So there is a whole lot of input air from
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the mayor. And even if he doesn't, I mean, if
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: he's out of the of the process to a certain degree,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: he's the mayor of the city, and I think his
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: word and his suggestions carry a bit of weight.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: Todd A.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Friday, Todd Zenz are our own citizen watchdog friend of
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: everybody in the city of Cincinnati, whether they realize it
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: or not. Identifying absolute just unbelievable, Todd. I was just
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: telling you off air, I really appreciate what you're doing.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: But every time you and I talk and you talk
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: about this stuff, it is damn depressing.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's tough to it's tough to deal with.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine and over and over again that you're
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: always met with just a stone wall of non response. Basically,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: you ask him for a lot of information, they just
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: look at he or don't even bother paying attention to
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: what you're asking and bring important questions, they don't answer them.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, what is the point of showing up at
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: a city council being and being able to speak or
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: ask questions for two minutes or whatever if they're not
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: going to respond to them. They're just going to stare
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: at their cell phones, which is what I hear they
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: do all the time. Yeah, see it.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: It seems fruitless, But I use the what I call
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: the Wayne Gretzky approach. Wayne Gretzky is famous for saying,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: you miss one hundred percent of the shots that you
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: don't take cake. And so I just go down and
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: keep you know, try to keep plugging away.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Well, as I just sort of suggested off air that
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: maybe just maybe you are doing the work for some
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: US prosecutor in gathering all this information and providing the
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: foundation for perhaps some sort of criminal investigation. Who knows,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: maybe there'll be a Grand Jerry indictment coming down for
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: all this this shenany I don't want to call Shenanigan.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: This is just clearly on paper. How in the hell
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: do these organizations get the money? And how is it
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: that Mayor Purval can sit on a board of directors
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: and to direct money to that organization? This is taxpayer dollars. Yeah,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, what a obvious conflict of interest.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and for somebody like me that sees that, I
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: mean spent my careers telling secretaries of cabinet departments that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: you set the tone at the top, You set the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: tone at the top for the rest of the organization.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: And if you're not complying with the rules, the people
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: that work for you are not going to comply with
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: Well maybe.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: That's the point. Well, very well, this is exactly what
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: he wants brought about. Yeah, it looks the systems, Lucy Goosey.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: We have all the opportunity of the world, because there's
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: no ability to trace this, start handing money out to
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: our favorite organizations. You know what's going to happen come
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: election day. All of them, all two hundred plus, are
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: going to join together and support us this administration with
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: funding and with with going door to door and handing
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: out flyers. They know their life depends upon it because
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I have to have Pervall and Sharyl along at my side.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Are going to be able to make sure that they
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: continue getting the money.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for example, they couple of years ago they decide
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: to go with what they call a Human Services Fund
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: that they delegate that to the United Way. Well, and
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: so you're already two steps into trying to find out
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: what's going on. And that program over the last six
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: years has spent almost fifty million dollars. And this past
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: year or this year actually twenty six there are seventy
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: three grantees that are getting money through the United Way
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: for various initiatives like violence, anti violence programs, and food programs.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: And it's all done through the United Way.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: So money goes the United Way, which is a form
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: of cloaking. The United Way takes its sizeable slice off
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: the top for its fat salaries and administrative budget which
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: is massive. So the remaining money which is supposed to
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: go out into the world to do charitable good goes
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: through an NGO and that's where another CEO, the NGO
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: slices off its fat paying salary and so a trickle
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: comes in ultimately for whatever good this is supposed to
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: be directed toward. And do we have any accounting as
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: to whether or not the organization after this circuitous process
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: gets the money that they actually did something positive with it. No,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: that's nothing.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: That That is the big problem that I see with
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: all this money that goes out to all these nonprofits,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: as you really don't know not a thing what you're
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: what you're getting for your money, what the report is
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: and if they if they're reporting it to the city,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: the city's not making it public. And you have asked
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: for it, well, I've asked for certain of them, not
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: all of them. But yeah, it's just it's just very
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: frustrating to have all of all of these layers and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: it's like a ball of spaghetti trying to figure out,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: you know, who's getting what.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Well, did you ever think that it is ball spaghetti
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: for the purposes that we're dealing with right now? So you,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer can't find out and they can continue the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: well funding these organizations that are obviously so politically beneficial
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: to them, but not those out in the city of Cincinnati,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: who are feeling like they're nothing, They're problems were not
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: being addressed at all. Well, can genue with Todd Zenzer
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: and find out how in the hell is it they
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: came up with eight million dollars for the Farmer Music Center. Yes,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: that's related to the controversies where we've already talked about
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: this morning, and we are still thirty plus million dollars
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: in the hole with the budget.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: Todd twenty nine point five, Okay, yeah.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Eight million dollars. Hey, here you go, seven thirty here
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: fifty five KERCD talk station, Citizen Watchdog in Citia. His
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: name's Todd Zenzer's definitely a few so if you're a
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: resident of the city since then, you want to know
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: what they're doing with the taxpayer dollars they're taken out
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: of your check and how they're spending the money, maybe
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: even some railroad money. Follow todds Enser on Facebook, Listen
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: to Citizen Watchdog the podcast, and of course listen to
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: this podcast. Refer to your friends if they're not listening
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: to Todd this morning. This has been thoroughly enlightening and frightening.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: So moving away from the NGO's getting money, Todd Zenzer,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: how in the hell is it that the Farmer Music
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Senator project, which is that new CSO run music venue
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: over where a sunlight pool used to be. So they
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: take away our pool from us so building a brand
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: new music venue even though there are two there already,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: PNC and Riverbend. That was always confusing to me. So whatever,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: But they didn't ask the City of Cincinnati for any
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: money when they put put the project through, did they?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think they didn't, right, And then Long comes
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: at some point in time and ask of the city
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: council for eight million dollars, which the city council approved,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: arguing that the return on investment the foot traffic, and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: the money that will come into the area will benefit
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati the tune of like nine billion
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: dollars or something. They always pull out a figure to
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: justify the expenditure of money. But they gave the expenditure
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: of money after already saying we are thirty million dollars
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: in the hole from a budget standpoint, and since the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: project was being built anyway, we're going to get the
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: return on investment whether or not the city gives them money.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: That was the dumbest thing I ever heard, was look
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: at that one. What this project was online, it's getting
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: pretty to be improved, or could believe it. They never
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: wanted any money from you, and you're gonna get the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: benefit without having to pay a dime. That was a
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: better scenario. Where did the money come from? Todd?
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: Well, what's what's really unusual about this is that the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: money hasn't actually been allocated yet in the budget. What
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: they did was they voted to require the city manager
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: to put it in the budget and then it will
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: be voted upon with the overall budget. So it still
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: has not been approved.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Is this an all or nothing approved budget? Can they
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: line item things out as a collective City Council. If
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I get five people joining together saying no, no, no,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: we're not going to fund this and strike it out.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: They could Yeah, okay, they have you know, they have
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: the ultimate vote on what's in the budget, and the
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: budget is you know, the budget is a plan, that's
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: all it is. And they they move money around all
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: year long, every meeting, they're moving money around. But on
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: farmer yes, people have been asking if we're you know,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: in debt like this or have a projected deficit, how
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: can we add eight million dollars to it. Well, their
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: answer to that, I believe, is that, well, it's not
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: going to come out of the general fund and so
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: it won't impact the projected deficit. We're going to take
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: this money out of our general capital fund.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. For the benefit of my listeners and me, explain
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: the difference between the two and how they can say,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: we got a thirty million dollar hole in the budget,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: but we still have money in these capital budget. And
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: the also the growing trend to do exactly what you
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: just thumbnail explained to us. So what's what's this?
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  Speaker 6: So the general fund is very flexible and that's where
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: most of the city spends its tax money, they have
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: total discretion on how to do that. And the and
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: then the capital budget is a distinct, separate budget and
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: so that includes all of the tax levy revenues.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: And things like that.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: All that like the railroad money is in there, and
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: that the money in the capital budget has a lot
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: of restrictions and specific uses that the city has to follow.
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  Speaker 6: But there is part of it that's called a general
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: capital fund.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: So there's a slush fund. Within the slush fund, there
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: is a subset of the capital budget. Is this separate such?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So here's here's where the city the city is.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: Here's where the city is confusing things because like on
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 6: farm the Farmer Music Center, that is a plain and
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 6: simple a subsidy. A subsidy is not a capital project.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: And so the city is now funding capital product funding
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: projects as capital projects that are when really what they're
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: doing is subsidizing somebody else's capital project. And what I
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: what I've written into the city about is well, what
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: do your auditors say about that? Because their auditors are
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: going to come in at the end of the year.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: They're going to look at this and they're going to say,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: why did you classify that as a capital expense when
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: it was a subsidy, and it really gets down to
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: their financial statements.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and at this point we don't know how that's
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: going to turn out. No, you've raised the point issue
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: ahead of time. This is clearly not a capital budget expenditure.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: Yes, and there are accounting rules that the city has
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 6: to follow, the generally.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Generally Accepted Accounting Standard or something yeah.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: Something like that, But there's specific standards for state and
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: local governments.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: And.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: The rules say that this is a not a capital expense.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: The city has to gain some type of ownership interest
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: or it has to be some kind of city owned
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: asset that is, you know, benefiting from this payment or
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: these moneys. And that's just not the case. And now
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 6: we find that on these projects that the city council
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: wants to fund, are these ngngos that they want to fund,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: Like if NGO XYZ wants to build a brick and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: mortar office, the city will give them money, and they'll
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: try to call that a capital expense for the city
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: when the building is not a city building.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Not a city building, and the city doesn't acquire any
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: ownership interests by giving them money.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: So none of that.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: There's really capital expenses. The the city got a briefing
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 6: the other day from their advisor that advises them on
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: like how to keep their credit rating, and two members
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: of city council asks the advisors, can we fund economic
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: development through the capital budget? These are they call these
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: things economic development.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Literally anything is it would fall into the umbrella of
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: economic development, right, just like all these programs that they
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: in a neighborhood that spurs economic development.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: It could be public safety, because everything's either public safety
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: or economic development. But the advisor certainly did not say yes.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: He hedged, And you know, they know where their bread
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: is buttered. So they're supposed to come back at the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: end of May and address that question.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Todd Zinzer will be there couple up at ten forty
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: two fifty five kc City talkxtation enlightening, absolutely frightening, and scary.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Absolutely Todd Zenzer in studio, our citizen watchdog acting as
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: the unofficial inspector generalist City of Cincinnati, pivoting over and
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: this talking about NGOs receiving cash from the city taxpayers
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: via the council and a city manager in aft have
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: pro ball apparently by stuffing them into the capital budget
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: to mask them. The agenda came out of the Budget,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: Finance and Governance Committee meeting from the other day, just
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, with memos from each member
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: of Council concerning their budget priorities for fiscal year twenty
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: twenty seven. So pretty sizable list totally thirty four million,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty six thousand dollars you've identified. Let's
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: talk about some of these, like, for example, Seth Walsh
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: has a ten point three five million dollar ask, followed
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: actually seventeen million plus from Jammyshell lemon Kearny. Scottie Johnson's
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: down for four point five million. Just let's look at these.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Let's start with with with Jammyshell lemon Kearny. What is
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: seventeen million plus dollars that she wants the taxpayers to
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: pay for? What's that going for Todd?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 6: Well, there's a whole there's a whole list of them.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: Brian, We'll give me a big one, the biggest. I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: know which one you're gonna give you, so I asked it.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: The biggest one is something that she's calling the Cincinnati
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: Real Estate Reparations Program, and it's for things like home repairs,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: home ownership, residential and commercial purchasing, help the link win
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 6: property taxes. So this is the second I mean that
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: she has. She has introduced something previously that she used
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 6: the term reparations. It was actually a precursor to this one.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 6: But what they will do is they'll set up a program.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: It'll be income based and it may be targeting. They're
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: Rising fifteen neighborhoods. That's another invention of hers, and we
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: just don't know what that looks like right now. But
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: she wants to put five million dollars in the budget
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: to fund this program and then they'll build the program
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: out from that.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess since the word reparation is on it,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: usually that is allegedly designed to address the sins of
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: the historical ill treatment of the black community. Is this
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: money allocated only to people seeking this assistance for members
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: of the black community. So if like an Asian guy
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: showed up, or maybe like an Irish person that used
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: to get trumped on and their rights used to be
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: stepped on as well, could they apply or do you
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: think that's outside of the realm.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: Well, they they tried to set up a Rising fifteen
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: fund for the railroad money where a certain amount of
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: the railroad money would go to the rise seen fifteen neighborhoods.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: And not pre existing infrastructure TOADT And when I.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: When I looked at the support for that program, they
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: they listed the economic analysis that supported that program. They
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: listed two factors. One was race and one was income.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: And I wrote, and I said, I don't think it's
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: appropriate to make government funding decisions based on race.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: You can't. There's already been several recent cases that have
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: addressed that outright.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: So that never passed. They never came back and voted
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: in that. So since then they have tried to come
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: up with some other programs like that, And I think
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: they're wise enough now to not base everything on race.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: So they've got like the big one is an income factor.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: No, I guess there's what's on paper, and then there's
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: how it's done in execution.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: Yes, the same thing with the budget. I mean they
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: like designating something a capital expense in the budget does
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: not mean it's a capital expense.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: No, it does on your financial statement, And trying to
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: put in the railroad budget doesn't mean it is an
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: existing infrastructure project, which clearly a reparations program.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: Is not right, and would set up an entirely separate,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 6: different oversight problem. And I mean the railroad money's a
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: mess to begin with.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we've got one more with Todd Zenzer before
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: we get to Jack Addan has doing a special big
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: picture for a Friday Jackie one after the top of
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: the UR News and we'll get to one of the
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: other asks from the various council members and the agenda
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: that we just talked about, the Seth Walsh ask of
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: ten million dollars seven fifty one. If you have krc
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• 1:34:51
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• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: choked him, made it difficul for the victim to breathe anyway.
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• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: in front of me. Todd Zinzer, citizen Watchdog. We're going
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: through some of the Budget and Finance Committee asks and
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: that he calls some earmarks which he hopes really irks
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: the city council members Albie and James didn't ask for anything.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: Nolan Owens didn't have anything on their list. But the
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: big ones are, of course jammasheow eleven Kearney's seventeen point
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: one million dollar ass he got, Scottie Johnson with five
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: point three million, two point six for Jeffreys and Walsh
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: is a standout of ten point three to five million.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Now the Farmer Music Center eight million dollars. That was
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: council member Albi's idea, right.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: Well, she was the manager of the resolution, yes, and she.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: They passed the resolution saying we're gonna give eight million,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: and but hers is at zero. Isn't this where the
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: eight million dollars would have showed up.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: That's what I looked for. It is like, what is
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 6: she going to say about the Farmer Music Center? Is
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: this a priority of hers? So when I looked at
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: her memo, it was more of a political The ones
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 6: that say zero just didn't specify dollar amounts and recipients.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: They did express preferences for policies for ALCA.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: For example, in miss Alvi's memo with respect to Farmer,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: all she said was continued to support the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: All right, so that's the code word for Farm Music Center.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: But the allocation asked this earmark came out from Seth Walsh. Yeah.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: Well, it was interesting because during the meeting when they
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: were debating the resolution, and a debate in city council
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: is a rare thing, so I was happy to see it.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: The two members of council who were pushing the eight
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: million dollars the hardest or Seth wall and Meka Owens.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: And as coincidence would have it, they are both running
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: for office this year. Seth Walsh is running for state
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: Treasurer and Mika Owens is in a primary for the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 6: County Commission. Oh my and they're the ones pushing the
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: eight million.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Well, and you mentioned County commission. We have Signal ninety
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: nine following criminal justice along the same lines as you
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: are following city's City Council. No one is doing this
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: for the county, not any commissioner budget. So if there's
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: someone out there that feels they have the ability of
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: the capacity, like Todd Zinzer and Signal ninety nine, they
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: deal with county issues. The jail is one of the
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: biggest expenditures and the funding of the Sheriff's department. I
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: know you've got some concerns about those moneies. Yes, so
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: if you're interested in a job, we could use you
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: out there. And again, going back to the memos and
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: the earmarks, you said, not one of the memos prepared
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: by each of the council members even mentions the hole,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: the thirty roughly thirty million dollar budget hole. Not a mention. Nope.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: The clothes since they come is to say maintain the program.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 6: May maintain the program. I don't think they use the
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: word at current levels. But they're not asking for more
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: money for that program. They just want to continue the program.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: And only in government is leaving the things status quo
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: even considered a cut because what about inflation is actually
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: less money than Yeah, okay, shut up. Well, and Christopher
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Smithlman is listening watch the debt rating, says Chris, you
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: alluded to that earlier.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: Right, So these actually was Jeffreyes and Cramerton asked the advisor.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: It was have important company as the advisor, and they've
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: been using them for a long time now. Specifically asked,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: can we use the capital funds for economic development purposes?
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 6: And the answer was not a resounding yes. He didn't
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: say the advisor didn't say no, but he didn't say yes.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 6: And so that's going to be the issue when part
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 6: two of their presentation, which is supposed to be coming
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: at the end of May.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Wow, well, I know my popcorn will be out waiting
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: for your next analysis about generally Shenanigan's going on in
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: the city budgeting process, among anything else everything else Todd's
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: ends or you're doing great work, whether again they like
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: it or not, you're doing great work for the City
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, and I appreciate it. I know my listeners
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: do as well. And thank you for spending time here
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: this morning. It's been fantastic, my friend. Thank you, Brian,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: certainly enlightening. And this is the city of Cincinnati. I mean,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: you know, damn well, we're finding out all kinds of fraud,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: wasted abuse. In the federal government level, it's like the
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati on steroids, geometrically larger.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 6: See, at the federal level, the Congress always used a
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 6: budget gimmick that they use is they identify a certain
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 6: dollar amount and say that the igs are going to
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: find all of this and we're going to save this
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: much money through oversight. The city can't even say that
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: because they have no oversight capacity. They can't even use
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 6: that gimmick.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Hire Todds ends or folks stick around. Jack added in
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: with a special picture coming up. Eight five here fifty
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• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: mark two of the Big Picture with Jack Adad and
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: Jack Adan's on the phone. Dak, don't give Danny a
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: hard time. We have a technical difficulties problems with Zoom
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: because Joe Strecker is not here, and only he knows
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: how to properly work that. He's got a special account
• 1:40:18
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• 1:40:21
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• 1:40:25
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• 1:40:27
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• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: been challenged with this morning, which is why we have
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: you on the phone now. Jack, Welcome back, my friend.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure for having you on the show.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: Appreciate your willingness to save me from myself on a
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Friday in the eight o'clock hour.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, you don't need saving, but I'm the eager to
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: be on. Unfortunately, I don't have the latest iPhone. I
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: have a chin can. But if you can hear me,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: let's go ahead with this loud and clear, Jack, loud
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: and clear as you know, my friend. Starting with the
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 5: brick to airstrikes to kill Dieto Lahamani and the rest
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: of Iran SAP leaders, followed by the bombing campaign that
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: seized control of Iranian skies and sees, though not yet
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: the crucial strait of Hormuz.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: From the very.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: Beginning, friends, and even before the beginning, going back to
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: last June's D two crushing of Iran's nuclear program, which
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: they went ahead and tried to restart. I have supported
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: President Trump's war, or what he calls the mission to
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: end the Jahadas forty seven year war on America, And
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: yet it is possible to win a war and lose
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 5: the peace. I don't know how the curren cease fire
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: negotiations will end, perhaps in real peace, with the leaders
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: that Iran has left agreeing to give up their nuclear
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: ambitions there in their continental ballistic missiles and their control
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: of the Strait, which we can never forget is an
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: international water like the Suez and Panama Canals. They have
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: no right to do this. Or, perhaps less likely, the
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: surviving Mullahs and revolutionary guards will grant their people the
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: freedom to protest, to organize, and hey, we can dreama
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: acquire weapons so they won't be mowed down by the
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: tens or hundreds of thousands if they try to form
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: a new government. We can never forget the bill of
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: rights that we have in America and nobody else has.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: Those concessions would require this regime to surrender or collapse.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 5: More realistically, it is still possible that Trump will find
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 5: an Iranian Delsi Rodriguez, you know, the new leader of Venezuela.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: Maybe it would be a leader of Iran's regular army,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: not the fanatical revolutionary guards. But the fact that President
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: Trump could not clearly foresee the outcome of this war
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: does not mean I think that he should have followed
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: his Democrats and Republican predate assessors in kicking the can
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: down the road until Iran clearly had a weapon of
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: mass destruction. Look, if a mugger holds a gun to
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  Speaker 5: your head in New York City, you don't refuse to
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  Speaker 5: grab the gun. You don't refuse to disarm him. Just
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  Speaker 5: because the Democrat prosecutor there probably won't bring charges, and
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  Speaker 5: a Democrat judge won't convict, and New York's Marxist mayor
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  Speaker 5: will give that criminal a key to the city. You
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  Speaker 5: still grant the gun and you disarm Iran. But when
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  Speaker 5: you volunteer military succeeds decisively with legendary valor, what do
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  Speaker 5: you do then? How do you win the peace? History's
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  Speaker 5: most famous example of losing the peace came just over
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: one hundred years ago, at the end of the Great War,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: the War to End All Wars, Those were its first nicknames.
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  Speaker 5: The name we give that war today points to its fale.
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  Speaker 5: Now we call it World War One because just twenty
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: one years later, the first shots were fired in World
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  Speaker 5: War II. Largely because the First World War ended with
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: a botched peace treaty, we don't have time to sort
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  Speaker 5: out the causes of the First World War. As many
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: as ten million combatants were killed in a trench, tea
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  Speaker 5: and in the air. There's an incredible Air Force museum
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: to see how the Wright Brothers peaceful invention within a
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  Speaker 5: decade was fitted out with bombs and machine guns. The
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  Speaker 5: Great War was fought over colonies, oil, cheffed something national
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: pride and did I mention oil. Almost any war since
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  Speaker 5: then has been fought in large measure over oiled, from
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 5: Lawrence of Arabia to the Nazis, Desert Fox that Vietnam, Libya, Venezuela,
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  Speaker 5: and now the twenty percent of the world's oil controlled
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: by Iran. President Trump's extraction of Maduro from Venezuela gave
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 5: America a big say and how its oil will be sold.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: Iran has proved tougher, and various times Trump has threatened
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: to blockade Iran's oil or destroy its cargile refineries, or
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: maybe instead seize that oil or and this may have
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: been one of Trump's worst heavy handed jokes. Let the
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: illegal tolls that Iron's new leader is excharaging it for
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  Speaker 5: those ships.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I circled that one to talk with you about Jack.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. I'm sorry to interrupt, but that one really,
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  Speaker 1: really really hurts me.
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  Speaker 5: In a few hours, all hell may break loose, but
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  Speaker 5: let me end by finishing the tragic story of World
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  Speaker 5: War One. It's not precise analogy, but it's instructive, I think,
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  Speaker 5: because the Verside Peace Treaty made Hitler inevitable. President Woodrow
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: Wilson personally drew up that treaty in past egg done
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 5: by the victorious leaders of Britain, France, and Italy. America
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: had come to Europe's rescue, and Europe pretended to be
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 5: grateful alike today when there's not even a pretense. Instead
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: of seeking a lasting peace, the Allied victors bled Germany
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  Speaker 5: dry with impossibly high demands for reparations and the loss
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  Speaker 5: of Germany's manufacturing regions, not colonies, these origions within Germany.
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  Speaker 5: The vanquished German Empire agreed to regime change its blood
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  Speaker 5: thirty Kaiser Wilhelm died in exile, but the new German Republic,
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  Speaker 5: because of the rapacious Versailles Treaty faced hyper inflation. It's
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  Speaker 5: not just a myth, it's not just the story. And
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: you actually needed a wheelbarrow filled with worthless cash to
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  Speaker 5: buy your family a loaf of bread. Hyper Inflation reduced
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: thousands of women to prostitution. Everywhere you looked Brian, there
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 5: was disease and spare. The threat of a communist takeover
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: empowered the Nazis. The escapegoating the Jewish bankers cemented Hitler's power.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: The Feurer persuaded Germany that they had not really lost
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: the war. Rather, the Fatherland had been stabbed in the
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  Speaker 5: back by both capitalists and Marxist Jews. History, not to mention,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: voters will view the Iran War as a failure. If
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  Speaker 5: Jahadists remain in power and in a few years developed
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: or like Pakistan, they buy nuclear bombs and long range missiles.
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  Speaker 5: We have to win the war. We cannot lose the
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  Speaker 5: peace now. By contrast with World War One very quickly,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: World War II ended decisively and ushered in eighty years
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  Speaker 5: of growth and middle class prosperity that continues to this day,
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  Speaker 5: and Iran freed from Jahadas. Thinking death to America may
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: persuade the entire Middle East to join. Trump's greatest achievement,
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  Speaker 5: along with security in our borders the abraham of courts.
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  Speaker 5: A free Iran may fuel another century of prosperity, brotherhood, peace.
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  Speaker 5: So please, having won the war, let's not lose the peace.
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  Speaker 1: What do you say, brother, Well, an element of losing
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  Speaker 1: the peace. And it just really ticked me off. At
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: the top of the air of news when it might
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: came on this morning at five had just ended. And
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Spain is accusing the United States and Israel of violating
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: international law in connection with its bombing campaign of Iran.
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  Speaker 1: And I've heard that before. But Spain also is the
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  Speaker 1: one that wouldn't let us use their airspace to engage
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  Speaker 1: in any warfare with the Iranians, even though we have
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: a base there. So they come out charging the United
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  Speaker 1: States as violating international law. Where are the screams and
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: the cries of outrage over the Iranians violating international law
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: by denying the freedom of navigation in international waters. So
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: there's that, And we could all argue about that, because
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: it apparently is a violation of the conventional the law
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  Speaker 1: of the seas. It's a violation of international law which
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: provides for and guarantees freedom of navigation and international waters.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Straight up, our mouse is international international waters.
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  Speaker 4: So what of that?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: And then going back to Donald Trump's very very concerning
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: statement that, okay, what about charging tolls. I'd rather do
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: that than let them have them? Right, why shouldn't we
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Why we're the winner. Let's split them in essence, split
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  Speaker 1: the tolls. I don't understand how anybody could abide tolls period.
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  Speaker 1: But the concept of the United States, and it's even
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: saying out loud, well, it's okay if we get half
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  Speaker 1: the money. What a massive concession, what a massive element
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  Speaker 1: of losing the peace?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I agree with you. Have You know, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 5: In most countries you have two leaders. One of them
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: is a more or less nominal leader. It's often called
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: the president. You know. They have one in France, they
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: have one in Israel, and that's the head of states,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: like the King of England, who is supposed to be temperance, temperate,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 5: a statesmanlike, and who speaks for the country. The other
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: one is the prime minister, the guy who is down
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: in dirty and actually governs. And unfortunately, in our country,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: in this case, it's unfortunate. Donald Trump is supposed to
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: fulfill two of those roles he's supposed to vote be,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: you know, the statesman like spokesperson and also the guy
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: who gets things done. He gets things done, and I
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: think he's going to get this done. But a lot
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: of his statements annexing Canada, seizing perhaps by Forrest Greenland,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: that kind of thing. It alienates a lot of people,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 5: and it's made it tougher to form a coalition. A
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  Speaker 5: guy who was very good, that was a statesman, that
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: was George H. W.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: Bush.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: George H. W. Bush led Saddam Hussein off the hook,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 5: and that's why his son went and fought another war
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: with Iraq. But the old man was head of the CIA.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 5: He was an ambassador, and he knew how to speak
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: to people, and he knew how to draw together people.
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  Speaker 5: Getting back to Iran right now is some combination Bryant
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 5: of clerics and revolutionary guards who remain in power, in
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: full control of their oil revenue and receiving iron shipments
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: from their biggest client in China. And even worse, if
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 5: they can control who passes through the Strait of Horror moves,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 5: we will have lost the war. But that's a lot
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: of is it's a worst case scenario with Trump in
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  Speaker 5: office for another two and a half years, I believe
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: he won't let that happen. There are ways to win,
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  Speaker 5: even short of regime change, which Trump never promised. What's
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: non negotiable, I hope is the surrender or the neutralizing,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: maybe burying it in that mountain of I run's weapons
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  Speaker 5: grade uranium. Also the ability to monitor from the ground
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: or from space future nuclearization, as well as limiting long
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 5: range missile production and finally fully opening the straight of
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  Speaker 5: horror moves. We're in the position to accomplis all of
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  Speaker 5: that right now. It won't take a forever war. It
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: will take will and forever vigilance.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate your optimism to know and Jack Etherdan and
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: I sure hope you're right that it turns out that way.
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  Speaker 1: The other you know, troubling component of all this is
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: the longevity of the United States is the default currency.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: I know Iran is charging cryptocurrency and has a very
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: massive amount of crypto in its arsenal, which allows them
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: to evade sanctions. So the more people catch on to
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: the idea of using crypto, the less likely it is
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: they're going to support the US dollar and that's a
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: real thing that concerns me a lot for down the road, Jack, me.
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  Speaker 5: Too, especially with the chaos that we have now at
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: the Federal Reserve. But that's a whole other talk some
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 5: other days. Get the way, you know, you're patshop well
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  Speaker 5: aimed as Spain. Spain is now an out and out
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 5: socialist country. Yes they have a but they're socialists. The
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 5: UK under Kris Charmer is not much better. Western Europe,
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  Speaker 5: I think you know, we've talked about this before. If defunct,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 5: we have to look to Eastern Europe, which has been
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 5: supportive of us. They are the growing economies, they are
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: the capitalists America loving economies. Also some of the Scandinavian countries.
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  Speaker 5: We have to move forward with our allies, but we
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 5: can't needlessly needle them and alienate them. We have to
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  Speaker 5: try to build a coalition of the willing and go
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: ahead and open up that straight and certainly we have to,
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  Speaker 5: as they say de fag.
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  Speaker 1: Ran hey man, Jack allenan God bless you, sir for
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: spending time my listeners, I mean, second time this week.
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  Speaker 1: You're always welcome here in the morning show. I appreciate
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: your thoughts and insight brilliant as they always are. We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk next Wednesday, I hope Jack.
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  Speaker 5: Yes' wait, thanks so much.
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  Speaker 1: Big picture next week there.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: Not that there was any doubt in my mind or
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: your mind, but prove positive. It is Friday here at
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: the fifty five Kers Morning Show. Joey overall, despite the
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: troubles and tragedies that we all befallow during our lives
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: and think overall, it can be a wonderful world. Doesn't
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: like to point out it's got to look in the
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: right place and try to do so on a Friday,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: most notably, and we're gonna hear from Jack Wins or
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: how Press Network. You can fight them online at the
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: how pressnetwork dot com. Good stuff there, and we've got
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: some great articles and information or things going on in
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio to talk about with Jack, which
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: is always the case. I just one more thought, can
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: since Jack mentioned World War Two, the horror of war
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: cannot be further illustrated, not just because of trench warfare,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: and it's the outright just slaughter of humanity that the
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: soldiers kept fighting up until the moment the clock chimed
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: what midnight or whatever, and the war was officially over
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: because a piece of paper said it didn't end until
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: a specific point in time. They continued killing each even
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: though the writing was on the wall. I just every
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: time I think about that, I just think, you know, mankind,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: mankind whatever. Eight thirty one, come over a day, thirty two,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: fifty five krcity talks to you. Shit, it's Friday. It's
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: that time of week. We get the benefit of Jack
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Winsor you either the benefit of Jack Winsor every single
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: day at the Ohio Pressnetwork dot com, Jack closely following
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: all the things going on in the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Some great reporting there, Jack Winsor. I appreciate it, and
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the fifty five KRCY Morning
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  Speaker 1: show on a Friday to talk about it. Happy Friday
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 7: Happy Friday, man. It's always an honor and a pleasure
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  Speaker 7: to be here with you and probably the best listeners
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  Speaker 7: in the Buckeye State, certainly the wisest in the political landscape.
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  Speaker 7: So thank you for having it.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't even solicit that comment, but I share
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  Speaker 1: that observation and tell you what you talk about pressure.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm an anxiety prone guy generally, but knowing
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: this the intellect of my listening audience. Man. That puts
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of pressure when I'm preparing
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: for a morning show, most notably on days when Joe
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: Strecker is not in the building. So thank you Jack
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  Speaker 1: for acknowledging what I've known for a long time. You're
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: a good man. All right, let's start out. Should Ohio
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: apply the same ID standards to every ballot? Maybe I'm
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: puzzled because they don't or it doesn't. That is a
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: great question.
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  Speaker 7: I remember when there was a lot of legal wrangling
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  Speaker 7: and discussion on the Ohio House floor a few years
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 7: back when the voter ID law was passed, and one
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  Speaker 7: of the things that gave me heartburn back then still
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 7: gives me heartburn, and it answers your question directly. No,
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  Speaker 7: we don't require voter ID for every ballot. In fact,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 7: you can go up and request an absentee ballot slash
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 7: mail in ballot, and when you get that ballot, you
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 7: can complete it with your information and then get a
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  Speaker 7: ballot submit it without presenting a photo ID in person
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  Speaker 7: when you submit that mail in ballot. To me, that
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  Speaker 7: is a loophole in the law that certainly needs.
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  Speaker 1: To be addressed Pronto, well, a sizeable loophole. I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: that in drafting the legislation that they couldn't see that
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  Speaker 1: from a mile away.
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  Speaker 7: Jack Well, So I'm going to be careful here because
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 7: I don't always want to go into the editorializing. But
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: my opinion is this, sometimes Republicans misuse the power they've
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 7: been given by voters to put window dressing on things.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 7: I remember they were puffing up about voter id and
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 7: I thought, well, wait a minute. You just let you
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  Speaker 7: put a you put a hole in the bucket, and
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 7: you let you're letting the water out the bottom of
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 7: the bucket, yep. And you know you're pounding your chest
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 7: about pouring water in the top of the bucket. And
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 7: this is one of those things to me. Look, people
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 7: who are going to be nefarious and cheat are always
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 7: going to find the path of least resistance or the
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  Speaker 7: weakest link in the chain of command. And this is
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  Speaker 7: a very, very weak link. And there is a bill.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I believe it's five seventy seven. You'll have to
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  Speaker 4: forgive me.
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  Speaker 7: I'm on the road. I don't have my computer in
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 7: front of me, but I believe it's hospital five seventy
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  Speaker 7: seven that is drafted by state Representative Ron Ferguson to
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  Speaker 7: address this very issue. Unfortunately, I don't think it has
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  Speaker 7: the traction that it deserves. And wildly I believe one
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  Speaker 7: of the Ohio Secretary of State candidates, current Treasurer Robert S. Braak,
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  Speaker 7: has not been very vocal about porting the bill, which
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  Speaker 7: is surprising to me.
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm, well, you know, honestly, I know you were a
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: little cautious maybe about being critical of the Republican side
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: of the ledger, but no, I actually I think that's
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: far more important. I mean, obviously reflects the fact that
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: you and I don't have bias. When we see nonsense
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: going on, it doesn't matter what political stripe it comes from.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: It's nonsense and is in need of being called out. See,
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: we're not going to be accused of being one side
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: in our attacks on political parties. If they deserve to
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: be criticized, they get criticized. And Jack, I'm glad you're
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: there to do it. So I appreciate you enlightening on this.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we can elevate this particular issue to everyone's attention
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: and of course factored into our decision making as we
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  Speaker 1: get to the primary elections. Jack Hey forty fifty five
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  Speaker 1: krecy talk station. Find him online the Ohio Pressnetwork dot
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  Speaker 1: com and bookmark the website. See you can keep track
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: of all the Shenanigan's going on in the state of Ohio.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor behind the Ohio Press Network. He's on the phone.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: He joins us every Friday to go over some of
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: these issues and pivoting over to Amy Lockdown acting who
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: would like to be the next governor of the State
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: of Ohio. Of course she was Amy Lockdown acting under
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: Governor de Wine's approval. Whatever you can. It's rather telling
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: who she hired to be her lawyers. Jack, So this
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: is funny.
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  Speaker 7: I have to tell you this story. Fox News ran
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 7: a report a couple of weeks back. It was actually
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 7: a republished report from OutKick, and in that report, the
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 7: reporter from OutKick allegedly found some old tweets back then
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 7: it was Twitter, it's now acts that someone by the
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 7: name of at Amy Acton, doctor Amy Acton, I sent
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 7: and published. Well, I republished a part of that report
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 7: and indicated, hey, here are some crazy things that doctor
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 7: Amy Acton allegedly said back during COVID she got involved
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 7: in allegedly a Cleveland Brown's fan forum and was just
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 7: posting some silly stuff like make sure you mask, make
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 7: sure you maintain social distance, that kind of stuff. And
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 7: I even put in the report. Hey, Acting supporters claim
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 7: that this account was fake and these tweets are fake. Nonetheless, Brian.
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  Speaker 7: The very next day, I received a cease and desist
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  Speaker 7: letter from the Elias Law Group. And you go based
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  Speaker 7: on familiar Yeah, yeah, familiar Mark Elias. I was a
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  Speaker 7: guy who was Hillary Clinton's twenty sixteen attorney and really
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  Speaker 7: one of the architects of the Russia collusion hopes.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that. It's funny. I haven't heard that name
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  Speaker 1: in quite some time, though. So the Elias firm working
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  Speaker 1: for Amy Acting, so ceason desist what publishing the tweet
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  Speaker 1: that she had published, the Twitter feed x thing whatever
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  Speaker 1: that she had previously published, or were they suggesting to
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  Speaker 1: you with the season desist that that was not in
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  Speaker 1: fact her account.
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  Speaker 7: They were claiming that it was not infect her account,
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  Speaker 7: to which I responded, well, if you actually read my report,
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  Speaker 7: I give a balanced argument that there are people who
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  Speaker 7: say this is not accurate, and I've reached out to
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  Speaker 7: the campaign. Of course, they will not respond, So they're
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  Speaker 7: standing behind the Elias Law Group, which is really funny
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  Speaker 7: and to really kind of connect the dots here, Alsa
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  Speaker 7: Slocken was in town this week pitching for Amy Acton,
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  Speaker 7: and she continues to pair it the same line that
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  Speaker 7: Acton does, which is, I'm a doctor, I'm not a politician.
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  Speaker 7: I'm a political outsider. And my first thought is I
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  Speaker 7: don't know very many political outsiders that hire Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 7: Beltway attorneys, particularly the Elias Law Firm. So a little
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  Speaker 7: bit of comic relief for me, but I hope people
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  Speaker 7: take it seriously because this is the kind of stuff
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  Speaker 7: that o'hilan's go is. This is going to be in
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  Speaker 7: control of the governor's chair if Amy Acton wins this election.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and those who might contribute to Amy Actin's campaign,
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  Speaker 1: remember that the probably campaign funds are funding the Elias
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  Speaker 1: Law Groups defense or season desist operations and whatever else
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  Speaker 1: they're doing for Amy Acton. Let me guess the White
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  Speaker 1: Shoe DC law firm of that prominence, probably because they
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  Speaker 1: used to practice law, and I've seen how much the
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  Speaker 1: bill bil hours are probably charging fifteen hundred, two thousand
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  Speaker 1: or more dollars per hour to write letters like that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm certain they're charging a lot. But here's why
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  Speaker 7: you should scratch your head. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 7: attorneys and you probably do too, Brian. There are many
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  Speaker 7: attorneys in the state of Ohio who probably would have
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  Speaker 7: been proud to partner with Amy Act and to send
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  Speaker 7: me that letter. And my question is, if you're all
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  Speaker 7: about affordability, if you're all about Ohio, why didn't you
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  Speaker 7: choose an Ohio attorney.
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  Speaker 1: There's an ask. It's legitimate, and you know what, I'm
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: sure there's an Ohio firm hoping to get additional business
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  Speaker 1: down the road from who may be the next governor
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  Speaker 1: by offering to do that pro bono, Hey, we'll help
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: the campaign out in the interest of advancing your campaign,
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: and because we support you and want you to be
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  Speaker 1: the next governor, how about we handle the legal load
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  Speaker 1: on that one.
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  Speaker 7: Would make sense, wouldn't it. So a lot of questions
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  Speaker 7: about Amy acting to me, I'm going to editorialize here.
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  Speaker 7: She feels a lot like Joe Biden, kind of an
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  Speaker 7: empty suit that the insiders in DC and the insiders
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  Speaker 7: on Cap Square in Ohio might be able to control
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  Speaker 7: and manipulate to get their party's objectives more completed here
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  Speaker 7: in the Buckeye State.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that seems it, so well, Jack, do you know,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: buddy chance, Jack and I know, we haven't gotten to
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  Speaker 1: the primary yet, so we haven't definitively resolved. It's going
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: to be vivek Ramaswami and Amy Acting. Is there? Do
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  Speaker 1: you know if there's any polling head to head between
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: ACT and v vake.
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  Speaker 7: So there are three or four poles out there, and
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  Speaker 7: I'm very cautious to say there was one pole that
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  Speaker 7: had Acted up ten points. I had to very quickly
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  Speaker 7: point out to people exactly that it was actually a
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  Speaker 7: poll conducted by an environmentalist group that front loaded with
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 7: a bunch of environmentalists questions, and so as you can imagine,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 7: it attracted a lot of lefties. So it had her
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  Speaker 7: up by ten I believe if you look at real
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  Speaker 7: clear polling, which is I take them very seriously because
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 7: they do a good job of averaging out all the
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 7: polls they do, the VIC is up by about a
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  Speaker 7: half point. And when I look at the cooked voter
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  Speaker 7: index for the Buckeye State, we lean about five to
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  Speaker 7: six points, right, So if I see the VIC up
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  Speaker 7: about a half point. My mind tells me he's probably
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  Speaker 7: up five to five and a half. But make no
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 7: mistake about it. We've seen this week with the list
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  Speaker 7: of Slotkin in town that the Democrats are going to
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  Speaker 7: spend a lot of money, yes, and they're going to
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  Speaker 7: do a lot of dog and pony shows for Amy acting.
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  Speaker 7: So the vic's probably going to have a pretty tough
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  Speaker 7: race on his hands. But I would say he's up
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  Speaker 7: right now. I don't buy any pole that has Amy
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  Speaker 7: acting in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Right and let me double down on the outside money
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  Speaker 1: coming in. This is going to be another one of
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: those nationally funded elections for governor. They want that governor's
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: seat without question, So a lot of fighting on need
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: to be done between now and November. We'll continue with
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: the probably the most bizarre story we're talking about this morning,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: the one coming up. We have a lawmaker which I
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: will label upfront backcrap insane. We'll see if Jack agrees
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  Speaker 1: with me. Coming up next, Hey, if if do you
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: want to think about KERCD talk station going into the
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: end of the weekend with Jack Windsor from the Ohio
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: Press Network on the Ohio Pressnetwork dot com. Jack Real
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  Speaker 1: Quick here on your last topic on Amy Act and
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: Corey chimed in. I thought this was rather funny. I
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: don't understand whether the Democrats want the Ohio governor seat
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio. They've had it for the last four years
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: with the rhinos in the sea. See told you, you know,
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: we're equal operatory criticizers here on the morning show. We're
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: gonna call it out if we see it doesn't matter
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: where it comes from. So right now we you gonna
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: have to make some sense with me. There is an
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: unlimited demand on government for legislation for any given thing, right, Okay, unlimited.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: So everybody's got their own pet project they want to
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: fund or deal with, and there's always someone else with
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: an alternative proposal. Democrat lawmakers are now calling a bill
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: to protect children. So here's an idea, let's protect children
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: from in person obscene or indecent performances. But there are
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: other things that they want, people want from government, like
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: this this Piccolo Antonio woman who's says no, no, we
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: can't do that because well, we have got a homeless
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  Speaker 1: problem or i'm sorry, a food and security problem. What
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  Speaker 1: do the two have to do with each other at all?
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  Speaker 7: Brian, you got right to themorrow of it. It's like
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 7: comparing apples to chimpanzees. Right, It's a false comparison. And
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 7: the reality is this bill, House Bill two forty nine
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  Speaker 7: does exactly what you said to this. Actually, I'm going
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  Speaker 7: to back into it this way. The objectors say that
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 7: it takes away LGBTQ plus rights. The objectors say that
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 7: Republicans want to control how you dress. Now, listen, your
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 7: listeners are smart, and we all love freedom. We would
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 7: absolutely vehemently oppose a bill like that. This bill doesn't
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 7: do that. All it does is to find where you
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  Speaker 7: can perform cabaret and drag show type of performances, and
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  Speaker 7: as you would want it, it has to be in
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 7: an adult facility. You can't do it in public where
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 7: miners can witness it. It's just decency. And so what
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  Speaker 7: this law does is it updates in decency laws in
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  Speaker 7: the Buckeye State, adds some death phinicians to the law book.
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  Speaker 7: And instead of having a constructive argument about it, Beryl
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 7: Brown Pickle Antonio, who's a Democrat from Gahanna, has tried
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 7: this false argument, which is, look, we have five hundred
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 7: thousand children who are food insecure in the Buckeye State.
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  Speaker 7: I'm embarrassed that we're having a discussion about this.
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  Speaker 4: What did she call it?
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: A cultural culture bill?
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: And there by the way, there's another great label and
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 7: this is coming. I want to remind your listeners from
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 7: the lady who has sponsored or co sponsored bills on
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 7: LGBTQ plus activism, diversity, equity and inclusion, expansion, and abortion.
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  Speaker 1: So what about the starving children? Jack? Oh, well, that's
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: just it right.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: And so my tongue in cheek response to Pickle Antonio is, well,
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  Speaker 7: why don't you amend the bill and add a writer
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 7: to appropriate some funds for the five hundred thousand food
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 7: and secure children. My guess is they're probably living in communities,
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 7: large cities run by Democrat lawmakers.
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  Speaker 1: But I digrest well and I listen. I appreciate all
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: the arguments about trying to legislate morality, and I wish
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: there were more parents out there that would not take
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: their children to drag show performances. But I suppose this
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: is a way to prevent those unsuspecting parents from having
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: their children exposed to such things, because they're going to
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: places like schools where they're performing these things. So I
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: get the motivation behind it. It's just it's just trouble
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: when we live in a world where we've got to
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: deal with this kind of stuff. But yes, a perfect
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: illustration of stupidity with this piccol Antonio woman. All right, well,
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: elections have consequences, Jack Windsor you know that. I know that,
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  Speaker 1: my listeners certainly know it. Thank you for doing what
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: you do every day, Jack, and we'll refer my listeners
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: are reform my listeners to the Ohio Techpressnetwork dot com
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: and I'll look forward to next Friday for another discussion
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: with you, my friend, and I hope you have a
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: wonderful weekend.
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  Speaker 7: Have a bless with Brian. Thanks agains brother.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it if you five Casey dot com, Dave Hatter
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  Speaker 1: Tech Fright with Dave Hatter Well Washington Posts. Determining how
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  Speaker 1: it's going to charge you and this is a growing
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• 2:09:02
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  Speaker 1: watchdog Todd Zen's or what an eye opener he always is.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: The budgeting issues with the City of Cincinnati on full
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  Speaker 1: display this morning, and they are just really really stretching
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: the outer limits of what's legitimate and what's not from
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: city government your taxpayer dollars, I will argue wasted. Listen
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: to what he had to say, crime stop or bag guy.
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  Speaker 1: The weeks at fifty five cars dot com, Jack Atherton
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• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: with Jack Windsor It's all right there fifty five carsa
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you Danny Gleason for covering for Joe
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: while he's dealing with the grieving process. I'll be out
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday dealing with my chemo recovery. Only two
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: more rounds of treatments I got today, but then two
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  Speaker 1: crossed for a positive ct scam. So Monday Tuesday, Dan Carol,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for covering. I'll be back Wednesday. I have
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend, folks, and don't go Away Glenn Beck
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