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Patriots Unfiltered 10/7: Breaking Down Week 5 Divisional Win Over the Bills · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: of Virgin podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a Spink award or something like that. Sink
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  Speaker 2: not the sprink, not that award.
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  Speaker 3: What is the expected gain on that play? So it's
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  Speaker 3: not average? No, it's an expected This is what the
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  Speaker 3: expected outcome in this situation would be versus what is
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  Speaker 3: the actual outcome of the play?
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  Speaker 4: If I say I expect you to be a nerd,
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  Speaker 4: it's based on.
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  Speaker 1: That you've been a nerd.
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  Speaker 4: Dames Pettigrew says Alex needs a better poker face when
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  Speaker 4: Fred starts calling Evan a nerd.
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  Speaker 2: Shoot, you know what I'm I think Buffalo is going
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  Speaker 2: to win the game.
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  Speaker 5: What Buffalo wins?
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  Speaker 1: Nope?
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  Speaker 2: The Patriots will go into Buffalo, yes, and have an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to establish themselves as an up and coming team
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  Speaker 2: on the rise. Okay, a playoff contender if you will,
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  Speaker 2: they will do it. The Patriots thirty four, Buffalo thirty three.
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  Speaker 2: Wowy a late scoring drive.
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  Speaker 4: Oh lord, the Bills are four to ozho They're not
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  Speaker 4: going seventeen and Oh somebody's gonna.
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  Speaker 4: It is victory Tuesday here at Jiles Stadium, a big
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  Speaker 4: win Sunday night, in front of a national May I say,
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  Speaker 4: worldwide audience, the New England Patriots are on the rise,
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  Speaker 4: because it.
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  Speaker 1: Was you're on the come.
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  Speaker 2: But I think you're right worldwide woni Verso I think
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 4: A universe Yeah, So, I mean what else can we
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  Speaker 4: say that hasn't already been said over?
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  Speaker 1: Just about Drake.
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  Speaker 2: May and I just putting up pants back on since
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  Speaker 2: the postgame shot we were we were all in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Actually phone lines were stacked at like twelve forty.
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  Speaker 1: Five low energy though low show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I will say one thing about one negative thing
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  Speaker 2: about the show. Yeah, it was about eight million degrees
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  Speaker 2: in here. Was was a very unseasonably warm day, but
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  Speaker 2: it was really really hot studio.
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  Speaker 1: The fans were a little bit like, I don't little.
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  Speaker 2: Agree and my hat to have an intervention with the fans.
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  Speaker 2: At one point I thought you would make fun of us.
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  Speaker 4: No, I expected like, you know, we're going to the
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  Speaker 4: super Bowl, and no, it's more like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I need to see more.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame them.
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  Speaker 2: Some people were just cautious by yeah, by nature. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And it's and we've been heard a lot before, and
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  Speaker 6: I mean we're trying to think of women a lot before.
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  Speaker 2: Five years title, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Been five years at games, five long years.
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  Speaker 1: But that was I don't want to say it's a
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  Speaker 1: signature win.
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  Speaker 4: I talk about this in the PFW TV show because
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  Speaker 4: I think there's more wins to come. And I think
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  Speaker 4: when I think signature wins, I think of you know,
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  Speaker 4: big things. But this is definitely their best win.
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  Speaker 7: What about a breakout performance?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think it's absolutely in the breakout Yeah, finish
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  Speaker 2: the sentence, best I think since since Belichick left the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, right, super Bowl fifty three, That is my answer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean hard to compare to Super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl Brady and Belichick left.
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  Speaker 8: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say this is as big as a super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: but it's the biggest win since. Now you can make
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  Speaker 2: an argument for one of those wins in twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: even the buffal will win in twenty It was Obar
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  Speaker 2: the number one seed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and it was obviously under weird circumstance winding,
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  Speaker 3: but the win game in twenty twenty one was a
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  Speaker 3: big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was I think this was bigger.
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  Speaker 1: We were all excited after that, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But it was also that nature of that game that
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  Speaker 6: it was like, yeah, but I mean this wasn't yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but this was everything we've been talking about of needing
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  Speaker 6: a quarterback who can do it in any circumstances and
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  Speaker 6: needing a receiver who can do it in any circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: And those were the two biggest things that were on display.
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  Speaker 6: When you get into the bottom half of the league,
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  Speaker 6: that's what you're searching for, trying to find that quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: And Drake May continue to prove each week that he's
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  Speaker 6: looking like that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's the.
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  Speaker 4: Number one story is Drake May and his performance, and
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  Speaker 4: it's been getting better every week.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like what he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: We were saying, you know, well we need to see
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  Speaker 4: that game where it's all on Drake May's shoulders and
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  Speaker 4: he takes the team and leads them to a victory.
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  Speaker 1: Well we got it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean we got it, and I mean almost to
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  Speaker 6: a comical effect with that first player where there's literally
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  Speaker 6: players like draped off of him and he somehow completed
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  Speaker 6: that pass. Great performance by him. I gotta give him credit.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I've been looking for. And you know, if
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  Speaker 6: he continues to have those kind of performances, he's going
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  Speaker 6: to enter that strata of guys that you got better
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  Speaker 6: make sure they're dead. You better make sure the clock
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  Speaker 6: is zero, zero, zero.
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  Speaker 2: Because this guy can make all kinds of plays no
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  Speaker 2: matter how it's been going.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And you know he does it with his feet, does
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  Speaker 4: it with his arms, his awareness of where the pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Is coming from, with people in his face.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just he did it all I said.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure I don't have plenty to say
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  Speaker 6: about Drake's performance after watching the film, but even like
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  Speaker 6: my little Deuce review, like I just think he was
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  Speaker 6: a little sped up and amped up in the first half,
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  Speaker 6: Like I think it could have been an even better
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  Speaker 6: game for him. I think he left a bunch on
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  Speaker 6: the field in the first half too, So you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think that's for me. The positive coming out is
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  Speaker 6: that there's still road to travel, you know, things to
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  Speaker 6: be conquered.
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  Speaker 1: For him, but what a performance.
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  Speaker 2: Part of that makes me even more enthusiastic about maybe
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  Speaker 2: because I agree. I thought it was a subpar first half.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he looked a little schedish in the pocket.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think he looked comfortable. I say this all
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  Speaker 2: the time. You know, like a pitcher, any pitcher can
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  Speaker 2: pitch well when he's got his stuff, when everything is working,
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  Speaker 2: what do you do when maybe you didn't get off
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  Speaker 2: to a great start, maybe you weren't necessarily throwing it
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  Speaker 2: where you wanted to throw. I think it says a
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  Speaker 2: lot more about a guy's resilience to come back and
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  Speaker 2: have that second half after a kind of just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: okay first half, and you know the Bills that was
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  Speaker 2: damn me perfect in the second and the Bills.
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  Speaker 4: Came out in the second half and they school and
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  Speaker 4: is like, Okay, you know, we're gonna have to score
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  Speaker 4: some points here, and.
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  Speaker 1: They did right away, and they did they answered right away.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that was I was really focused on the
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  Speaker 6: defense yesterday, and I just I kind of fell in
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  Speaker 6: love with the defense a little bit yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of getting.
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  Speaker 6: It, but they're just so aggressive and I just love
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  Speaker 6: going down like that, like, look, the other team's gonna
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  Speaker 6: make some plays. Josh Allen's really good. Their scheme is
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  Speaker 6: really good. They're gonna get guys open. They're gonna put
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  Speaker 6: your guys in bad positions at times, but at the
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  Speaker 6: end of the day, when it comes down to a
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  Speaker 6: critical third down, you know that Milton Williams and Christian
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  Speaker 6: Barmore are gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: Problems on that play.
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  Speaker 6: And that, to me is the fruition of seeing those
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  Speaker 6: two guys up front, seeing the coverage of Christian Gonzalez
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  Speaker 6: and Carlton Davis and Marcus Jones, who I thought had
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  Speaker 6: the best game of his career at cornerback. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: he's just looked like he Jones. He was sticky, he
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  Speaker 6: was physical, and you can see guys that we've watched
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  Speaker 6: play over the last few years under Belichick and Mayo
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  Speaker 6: playing with the Raabel style.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Marcus.
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  Speaker 2: Jones is getting in there.
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  Speaker 6: Evan pointed out the one play where Josh kind of
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  Speaker 6: you know, was getting sack, flipped it to Shakir and
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  Speaker 6: then they were like, literally six guys got a hit
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  Speaker 6: on Shakir, And I said, this is a play that
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  Speaker 6: they're going to show in the in the coaches in
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  Speaker 6: the tape, and this is how we want to play
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  Speaker 6: gang tackling everyone around the ball, everyone getting a hit, and.
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  Speaker 2: There's three more guys standing over. I'm ready to jump
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  Speaker 2: in there if they.
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  Speaker 4: And it's so funny about Marcus Jones because you know,
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  Speaker 4: you see him, he's not afraid to play the run,
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  Speaker 4: get his nose in there. And before the game, I
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  Speaker 4: was going down the elevator in the hotel. Door opens
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  Speaker 4: and in comes Marcus Jones, and I remember at that moment.
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  Speaker 1: Thinking, man, he's tiny.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm as big as he is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like I'm obviously wider than he is, and like and
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  Speaker 4: then and then I remember that image. And then the
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  Speaker 4: game comes and I see him make a tackle at
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  Speaker 4: the line on a run plan and I'm like, it's
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  Speaker 4: freaking amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And he's on Ken Coleman downfield making it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a pass defense.
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  Speaker 1: Most people his sides would be broken in half if
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  Speaker 1: they tried that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's no question his size. He gets
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  Speaker 2: some tards, get it.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I think gonna play like that.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Brady saying, perfect, we want Coleman on Marcus Jones.
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  Speaker 1: This is what we're looking for.
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  Speaker 6: But like everybody, they gave some punches, they took some punches.
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  Speaker 6: It's just a lot different style than I'm used to,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm really enjoying it because it's just like we're coming,
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  Speaker 6: We're coming, You're gonna make some plays.
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  Speaker 1: But guess what they're agree.
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  Speaker 2: With your point too about I'd rather if you're gonna lose,
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather lose like that than sitting back. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing. Oh, footsteps steps, footsteps in
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  Speaker 1: the AFC. If i'm the Bills fans, fun, If I'm
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  Speaker 1: the Bills fans, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: A little was going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: It was a bad game for them and it was
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  Speaker 2: all penalties, correct, Josh Allen, that's what and that's what
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  Speaker 2: they're saying, which is what I thought they would.
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  Speaker 3: Say, Allen, like getting there like half a bright.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you this is how I thought that
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  Speaker 2: they would react to a loss.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Allen might be a king, but there's a prince
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  Speaker 4: in waiting and he's coming up.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to know coming up.
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  Speaker 6: When was the last time Buffalo, Baltimore, and Kansas City
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  Speaker 6: all lost in the same week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just.
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  Speaker 6: Kind of anecdotal, But at the same time, like, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know if the if the power structure is changing
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  Speaker 6: just yet. I mean, it's Week six. All those teams
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  Speaker 6: can get healthy or kick in the gear or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: But at the same time you're.
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  Speaker 2: Seeing I love it, some changes the league.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps perhaps I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Ready to be like, oh, everything's read today on Twitter
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  Speaker 2: that the Colts are the best team in the AFC.
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  Speaker 2: Now I don't know why, Like Buffalo lost the game
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  Speaker 2: and suddenly they're not. So is this what we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to diminish the Pagriots win, but we're going
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  Speaker 2: to diminish the because I'm not doing that. Well, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and tell you for
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  Speaker 2: an hour and forty five minutes that the Bills lost
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  Speaker 2: the game, No they didn't. The Patriots won it.
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  Speaker 4: No, but if I'm in Indianapolis, I'm thinking my team's pretty.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't from Indianapolis. It was from Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to do I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: dump on this win because I don't think Buffalo is
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  Speaker 2: still the best team in AFC. No, no, no, the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots went into the best team in the ANFC and
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  Speaker 2: beat them in Buffalo. No, they said the Colts are
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  Speaker 2: better than Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: Now, well they're playing better than Buffalo.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not I'm not doing it. I'm not telling listen.
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  Speaker 2: Did I think Buffalo played a great game the other night? No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't, But I think the Patriots play made them
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  Speaker 2: sure not look as good as they can can look.
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  Speaker 1: They did, all right.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, just to continue on that line, like, what
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  Speaker 6: really impressed me about the defense is that we talked
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  Speaker 6: last week about this new Buffalo offense where they're not
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  Speaker 6: afraid to get under center, they're not afraid to put
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  Speaker 6: three tight ends on the field and just try to
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  Speaker 6: run it right down your throat. Their biggest game was
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  Speaker 6: nine yards. I mean they held James Cook in checking
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  Speaker 6: that game. I had questions about this run defense, but overall,
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  Speaker 6: I'd say, and I'm talking about Cook, if.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to go to the longest run and no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking for something else. But something just popped into
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  Speaker 2: my head. But to me, that's no they run defense.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot.
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  Speaker 6: And then it proved to me someone who maybe a
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  Speaker 6: little bit of a doubter maybe felt like some of
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  Speaker 6: this has been circumstantial, but you know, even Mina Kimes
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  Speaker 6: pointed out Kiris Tonga playing really well as a complementary
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  Speaker 6: at least, you know, right, so some national attention, you know.
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  Speaker 6: So I just I I really was excited watching this
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  Speaker 6: defense and and knowing too that they haven't really had
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  Speaker 6: a full chance to really lock all their guys in yet.
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  Speaker 6: There are still some spots that are probably gonna continue
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  Speaker 6: to grow and be upgraded.
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  Speaker 1: You did it without.
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  Speaker 6: Calebon Chase on anyway, So just a really good performance
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  Speaker 6: for them going. You know, it's like Bill's think, hey,
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  Speaker 6: we're just gonna do we do We're gonna smash the
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  Speaker 6: ball right down your mouth, you light Patriots defense, and
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  Speaker 6: Patriots defense wasn't having any of it. And I thought
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  Speaker 6: they brought the physicality. I mean, you know, Mina pointed
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  Speaker 6: out Tonga going against the interior line.
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  Speaker 3: He is like, can they need to extend that guy?
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  Speaker 3: He's on a one year contract and the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the league is going to find out how good he is,
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  Speaker 3: but not if they haven't already.
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  Speaker 7: And I mean he's he's been freaking awesome.
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  Speaker 6: It gives the rotation Williams and Barmore, but they can
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  Speaker 6: put him out there on the field with those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Changes every time, just firing his hands into the into
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  Speaker 3: the tackle or to the guard's chest and just walking
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  Speaker 3: him back into the line of scrimmage. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he made a play an outside zone where he ran
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  Speaker 3: like fifteen yards across the field and tackle the guy
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  Speaker 3: on a run play. I mean, he's just he's been
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea that he was this good when
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  Speaker 3: they signed him, and he's been even better than anybody
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  Speaker 3: could have possibly expected. And at this point, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: how often could they possibly play him?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a big dude, so you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to play overwork him. But he's been terrific. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're doing things very differently in the run defense than
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  Speaker 3: what we're used to seeing with Belichick. You know, they're
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  Speaker 3: not set in the edge the same way, they're not
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  Speaker 3: building a wall.
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  Speaker 7: They're not too gapping, and that's.
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  Speaker 3: Like been a little bit of my brain is like
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  Speaker 3: in a little bit of a pretzel with him, because
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  Speaker 3: it's watching something that's very different from what they've did
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  Speaker 3: in the past. So they're really trying to knife inside
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  Speaker 3: and do what's called spilling. So they want to get
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  Speaker 3: inside the inside gaps covered, and they actually want.
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  Speaker 7: The ball to bounce outside.
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  Speaker 3: They want to try to force the ball to the
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  Speaker 3: numbers and to outside the tackles, and then they just
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  Speaker 3: kind of chase the guy down into the line, into
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  Speaker 3: the sideline. So even like there might be sometimes when
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  Speaker 3: you're watching the game and it feels like they gave
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  Speaker 3: up the edge, but that's by design that they are
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  Speaker 3: trying to funnel the ball.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, in that.
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  Speaker 4: Time, I noticed a couple of times, you know, they
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  Speaker 4: would get great push up and you know, Allan would
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  Speaker 4: still be able to slip through, you know for a game,
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  Speaker 4: but you'll take that because you've disrupted the play that
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  Speaker 4: they had in mind. You're forcing him to run, and
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  Speaker 4: you know you're hoping the linebackers can fill in there
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  Speaker 4: and and minimize you know, the gain after that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean they're winning up front. Yeah, they're winning up front.
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  Speaker 3: They had a lot of really good spy reps in
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  Speaker 3: this game too, where they pushed Alan and forced him
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  Speaker 3: to make a throw, Like you don't want him to
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  Speaker 3: be able to run, and you don't want him to
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  Speaker 3: have all day back there to extend plays. So they
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  Speaker 3: were pressuring and then they would have like Spulane or
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  Speaker 3: Ellis or Landry or someone like that was a signed
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  Speaker 3: to spy him, and they did a really nice job
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  Speaker 3: of when he broke the pocket, they they made him
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  Speaker 3: throw the ball and they didn't allow him to just
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: sit there for five six seconds and hold it and
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: hold it and hold it. And so they did a
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: nice job of that as well. Defensively in this game,
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: I just I'd say, coming into the game, I wanted
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: them to play man coverage like that. I just didn't
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: think the Bills receivers on the outside, you know, Coleman,
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: you know guys like that, we're going to be able
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: to consistently beat Carlton Davis and Christian Gonzalez. And they
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: played forty one percent man coverage. I mean, Alan definitely
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: had his moments, especially the kincaid in man coverage, but
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: the Patriots were able to win a bunch of rounds.
• 14:35
  Speaker 7: Doing it that way.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: And then I think the biggest thing with Alan when
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: you get him to like revert back to playing playground
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: football and trying to play out of structure, he makes mistakes.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: He doesn't he's not as clean as when he just
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: sits in the pocket and methodically tears you up. So
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: they really got him to kind of be a little
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: bit chaotic in this game, and he was leaving the
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: pocket prematurely, and he looked like the court back that
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: was a little bit sped up and was kind of
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: feeling pressure and things like that, And that, to me
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: is the blueprint against him. When when you sit back
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: and just let him pick you apart, it's really tough.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I thought Ellis did a good job early
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: in the game with that stuff. Mike and I talked
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: about in a post game a little bit. I thought
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: they did a good job. One of the things that
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I was concerned about is yet, it's one thing to
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: have a spy. Can that spy then get him to
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: the ground. And I thought Ellis early in the game
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: established that, Yeah, he's gonna I think I think Allen
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: was better than that. I think he made one bad threat.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: He said it. He made a horrific throw. He should
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: have led Shakira and he missed him by a mile
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: and threw the pick to Marcus Jones. But that covered
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: the coverage I thought was pretty good around the game.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't see a lot of Yeah, I didn't see
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: like a lot of breakdowns. Now, I think the biggest
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: problem for Buffalo offensively is I do think that the
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Patriots sort of did what you guys said and wanted
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: to take away the run and then but they just
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: kept going backwards. And I don't care how good you are,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: when you consistently get holding calls on drives, you're gonna
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: go backwards and you're not gonna convert. Now, they only
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: punted twice the whole game, but it's hard to score
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: when you consistently go the wrong way. And I think
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: that Allen, to Evan's point, wasn't Razor sharp. I mean,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I think he was good, but not Allen not superman.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: He didn't have a lot of huge plays with his legs.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: He had some good, good runs. I thought he missed
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: some opportunities, especially the last third down, the first really
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: good play by Gonso when he covered Keon Kolmer for
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: about twenty minutes. I think if he just had run there,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: he probably gets somewhere between five seven yards and sets
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: up a much more manageable fourth down that now you
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: can run to get if you want to, or you could,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: you know, sort of, I mean the second down, second
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: it was second and third down not third and fourth
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: down check that, so it would have set up a
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: much more manageable third down. And then now it's third
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and ten and he kind of had to make that
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: throw to Shakir that Gonzo makes the incredible dive over
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the top pick not a pass defense.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: So that was just close, wasn't it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: It was really close, but I like.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: It looked like a penalty, but it was closer than
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: I thought.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he got there early. But that's very
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: consistent with the way they call that is and it
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: drives me crazy. Like the Kishawn booty, we're running thirty
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: five yards down the field and we're going like this
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: with our arms. Well, that's a penalty. And given a
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: team forty yards, you run through a guy and maybe
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: you get there early and it completely eliminates any chance
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: that that pass is getting completed. And it's fine, and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: that's but that's the way they do it. I know that, Like,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: this is not a homer call, like I've seen that
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: not called more often than not when they get there
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: maybe a tick early. Like that's that's the way the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: game is being played. I think that's pretty consistent. Now
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: that said, the officiating almost ruined what I thought was
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: a tremendous night, like just all around, Like, do we
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: really need all these alignment penalties on both teams? It
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: didn't benefit one team with the other. I'm not crying
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: about the calls. Just no one came to see Sean
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: about the rest, but no one came to see Sean Hawk.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I understand what no one's saying. The penalty has declined
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: because the results of the Like he's just so insufferable.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: So we're all excited, big win, but you got to
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: build on it. And in order to build on it,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: we got a There's a lot of things that need
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: to be cleaned up in this game, so let's.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Talk about some of those. Find a running game. Yeah,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: well that's the that's the thing.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: You know, everything we said about the run defense the opposite, even.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: If Remondre didn't fumble. Now, with Gibson out for the season,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: it's announced. I guess he has a torn a c
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: l We.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Need we need help here.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Uh, and so what do you do.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: You can bring up Jennings from the practice squad, but
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: do you go out and get yourself a veteran I
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: got We got a lot of emails, and we don't
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: have to read all of them al but Camarah might
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: be available. And you know, but what do you go
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: all out and try to bring in some help or
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: do you say we're gonna We're gonna do it with
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: what we've got.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: I think you got to bring somebody in. I don't
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: know if Kamara will be the guy. I mean, i'd
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: be looking for somebody who can take early down carries.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: I think he's more of a just a third down back,
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: which I would hope that that's a good point can develop,
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: you know, Henderson into And you know, honestly, I had
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: a thought kind of how to deal with Romandre. Do
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: you kind of make him the third down back at
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: some point? I mean, he's great at pass protection, he
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: can catch the ball. It would reduce his carries. But
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: if you are that concern, like I just don't get
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: the people who are like, well, we have to cut
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: him tomorrow and then Travian Henderson will just be the
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: one running back and that'll that'll work out great.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: They got to find another person.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know if Cherrell Jennings is the answer. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: liked him in the summer two years ago, didn't really
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: notice him much this year, but he is that kind
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: of guy. He runs hard. He's kind of a hard
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: charger Sode. I wouldn't be opposed to some young, fresh
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: legs that might give you a little bit more potential
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: sense of optimism, whereas if you bring in Zach Moss
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: or Ezekiel Elliott, you kind of know what you're getting.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: But I think at this point they just need a body,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: so they're going to have to They're going to have
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: to bring somebody in.
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they need a body.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: But like Grimandre and Treveon Henderson are going to be
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: a platoon now, and that's going to be your backfield. Like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think you're getting anybody at this time of
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: year that's going to be better than either of those
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: two guys. So you could bring in somebody that's currently
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: a free agent. You know that there are a couple
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: of guys, you know, Moss is one of them. You
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: know Jamichael Hasty is on the Dolphins practice squad. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: think it is, and you know, maybe he's a guy
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: that can come in. He's returned kickoffs a little bit
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: in his career as well, which I think is a sneaky,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: bigger deal in a lot of ways than you know
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: what they're going to lose on offense with Gibson is
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: that they now have a whole you know, Gibson week
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: two is a Special Teams Player of the Week because
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: of what he did returning kickoffs and every single time
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: they booted it to Remandre on Sunday night, I held
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: my breath thinking, oh God, now you know, really quickly
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: they actually did something cool with the Special Teams to
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: goat the Bills to kicking it to Henderson instead of Remandre.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I think it was the last kickoff of the game.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: They right before they kicked the ball, they switched so
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Henderson and Remandre like right before they lined up to
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: kick it, the Bills had everything set and then they
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: were about to kick it and the two of them
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: switched places. And so then they actually godd the Bills
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: into kicking it to Henderson instead of kicking it to Remandre.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: So not only just because Henderson's you know, got better speed,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: but I think that the Patriots were thinking, oh.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: God, let's not get the ball.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: But even if Stevenson had no ball security issues, I
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: don't think his running style is overly conducive to that
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: kick return play. He's more of a bruiser than a burner.
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: Yep, So I think that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: You know, Gibson was already playing like a reduced role
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: on offense and it was really starting to become Stevenson
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: and Henderson's backfield anyways, but the kickoff thing is sneaky
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: important because they need every big play they can.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Get, and aside from that last one they were going to,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: they were going to Remondre see okay, hold on to it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Thank god he did.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that's I think it again. It's just,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you know, it's something that immediately impacted that game on
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Sunday night when Gibson got hurt. Was that now Remandre
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: has to return kickoff.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: So I brought up and I don't know if we
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: talked about it on the show, Mike, but it's just like,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: why can't my guy do it? Marcus Marcus Jones, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I know he's smaller. I know they look at that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: as more of like a running back return. They do
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: it now, but the Giants have Olshefski doing it, so
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: but I you know, but a lot of teams do,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and I get it because it's more of it. It's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: turned into more of like we're looking for a crew
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: to get through a running play, you might have to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: break through some some congestion. But I just think that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: he's so electric with the ball in his hands.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Why not they were they were worried in the past
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: because we've asked them in the past about this, uh,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: you know, Springer last year and still the same coordinator
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: about durability because that is such a high impact play,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: and they they've Springer has talked in the past about
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: wanting a bigger body type. Now Henderson is not exactly
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: a big body either, but he's a little bit bigger
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: and a little bit you know, meteor than the guy
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: like Roman Marcus Jones. So that that was his response
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: because last year we were all wondering, why isn't Marcus
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Jones returning kickoffs? Now they also mentioned, you know, he's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: already on punt He's already a full time defensive player,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: and so it's another thing on his plate to put
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: him on kickoff as well. But I think it's mostly
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: about a body type thing that they're worried he's going
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: to get hurt.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I do think it that's the way they look at it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: As the body type.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you do put him there, you
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: might get a lot more touchbacks because teams like, we're
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: not going to bother with him.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's interesting how they how they might approach it,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: or they would say we're gonna go kill this little guy.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Could be I just don't know why you're I mean,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I I just don't think there's that much more risk.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: The durability thing makes sense to me. And in terms
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: of workload, what Evan said about workload, that's adding another
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: three or four touches again, like that's that that's significant.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I just think that your chances of getting lit up
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: on a punch or just as much as that was.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I think a combination like you just laid out, like
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: it's the fact that now he's going to have another
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: exposure to possibly getting hurt.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And that's yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I mean that that's undeniable. The more you give a guy,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the more chances he has to break down. He has,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: he has been a guy who's broken down.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: So the running game is something we need to look at.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: A lot of penalties for the Patriots, A couple of
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: really boneheaded ones the second half by some young guys,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: the roughing the passer one though I looked at that
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: over note that wasn't as egregious as some people said
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: it was. He was he was coming off his block,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: and it was late, it was high, it was it
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: was follow through barely late, barely late.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just going to just tell you, like,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I've never ever heard Scott Zolac not complain on a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: call like that. All four of those penalties they played,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and he was like, it's a good call.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not saying I'm saying it was a call.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I thought I was looking for
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: somebody else.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I don't call it. I don't call it on the
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: level of the Farmer one.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Well, the Farmer one was one of the more egregients,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: cheap players I've ever seen. When I was looking up
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: when you were talking about James Cook, Mike, what I
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: actually was looking up is in my mind's eye. I
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: don't remember Cook being back in the game. He did
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: have one other play, yeah, after that. I think he
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: might have been concussed on that though, really he got
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: ragged on.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: There has to be something like he had to have
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: like not seen him go down, He had.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: To have held whistle.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He thought that he was gonna that he was going
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to pitch the ball back to the ballenty Yeah then,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: but I don't care what you thought.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: You have to be more aware.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Like, let's just say, for argument's sake, his knee was
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: barely off the ground. That might have been a penalty anyway.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: No, those two penalties, and obviously the schooler one on
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: the sideline too, But that was in particular getting the
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: two penalties that gave him thirty of their like seventy
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: five yards on that drive. Like that's the crap that
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: gets you beat right, Like, you can't. I'm not a
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: big penalties guy. Everybody knows that. Like, I don't really
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: like get all worked up about penalties, but when you
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: do penalty with penalties like that, you cannot have like that.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: That is, they handed the Bills a touchdown drive but
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: by getting new penalties there.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: But the Bills aren't talking about that. Those ones are. Well,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: it's a little different when you're complaining about a call
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: and that and those calls no one's complaining about. I'll
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: gott to be honest with you. You got I didn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: think the schooler one was that egregious.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it was.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I thought so he was out of bounds.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I know it was, but he was like three steps
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: out about he barely hit him. Billy tapped, But you
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: just said you can't risk it. I know, what are
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you doing?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Older one like Don and I I'm with Paul, like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't think that was in the category.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: The other two, the Farmer and Durden ones like that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: The other two are going to be fine.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: That's half the yards on the drive.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I just feel like they were getting those.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe I don't one it's it wasn't as bad as
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: people said.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Still can't you can't you can't give them an option that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Look at it again, he didn't seven times they launched.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: He was already I don't care that he didn't launch him.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: They had finished, and you're just gonna say, and he
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: didn't hit him, that wasn't that agregious?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Just not gonna let me talk to you know, he
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: doesn't think it was god like?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Can we just say like it was a great woman
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and just move on? Like like why do we have
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Like, Okay, we're not going to talk about the game
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: like bad play.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna break down that play with all
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the things that Drake made and Stefan Diggs did.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give my opinion on the play if
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you let me, it's fine. Is that Okay?
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: He was coming off his block and leaning forward and
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: he was already in that direction, and yes his helmet
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: made contact, but he didn't lean forward with his head
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: or anything. He was already It was like the leaning
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Tower of Pisa and he and he hit him, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: yes it's a penalty, but it wasn't like, oh, what
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: an idiot. I thought his momentum was already going in
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: that direction.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that bad.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I can see, not what an idiot.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I can see. Yeah, I can see that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's but that's one of those plays.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Was an idiot.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: No, that's just one of those NFL where the pass
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: rushers are coming hard at the quarterback. It's that throws
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: out and it's it's just, yeah, I can't imagine when
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: it's like going full speed right fighting through a guy
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: and you look up and then like you have a
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: millisecond to like somehow avoid the hit.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just I yeah, I thought it was really
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: hard for him to avoid that one.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I really do. But that's just my opinion. That's just
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: my opinion.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: No one else is allowed to have one.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Well, if if you let me talk, I can have one.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying is can I just.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Give it seven times? You didn't think it was a penalty?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain what I saw and you won't
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: let me.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: We let you say it like three different times. Can
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: we just move on?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: How many times are you going to say he didn't
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: hit him in the head, he didn't hit him late,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and he didn't land on ocause he did all three
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of those?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, calm down.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Then a lot of people want to know, Paul, what
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: you thought about the clock management, you know, when it
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: comes to Rabel the.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: End of the first half.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these are the things they were talking about, you know,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: And I think kids still opened by the way, Like,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: if we want to talk.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: About it, I want to talk about going to wait
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: till Wednesday. Before that, I don't want to I didn't
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: want to yuck you young today.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I also want to Yeah, I also want to talk
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: about yes, so at the end of the first half
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: that and also going not going forward on what's.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Fourth clock management at the end of the first half,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and the first half interest yesterday, so I blew it yesterday.
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: They were so disappointed.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: No, because I wanted to talk to Mike about it,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and we I'm not going to make fun of the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: people like I normally do. There were some just really
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: every time we were on that topic a little bit
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and we were in it and I was ready to jump.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Well, well she did, she did.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Sophie brought it up, you know, because I did think
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the contrast, let's let's go, let's work backwards, start at
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the end, like so it's there's one second leftno on
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the one yard line, yep, you know, so you go
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: forward and get points. You don't go for it, you
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: kick the field goal, you know whatever. I thought it
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: was a little inconsistent, but Mike and I kind of
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: agreed with it. Like I thought it was like we
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: both immediately said maybe he felt like it was important
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: psychologically to go into the halftime locker room after that
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: half with the lead yep. And Mike basically confirmed that yesterday.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: He said, you know, we wanted it, we didn't want
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: to do all it. I think he said, we didn't
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: want to do all that and then come away with
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: no points where I think that the second guess is
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and we never got to it because we ended up
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: kind of veering off into other directions in the press
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: conference yesterday, and I wanted to ask him, you let
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: about ten or twelve seconds go off the clock, and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you wanted to specifically call the time out at eighteen seconds? Why,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: like you sort of put it so like we're trying
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to thread this needle, so there's no time on the clock. Yep,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And I get it. Buffalo's calling timeouts. Their goal is
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: to get the ball back. But the Patriots executed enough
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: so that was no longer really in play like it
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: was good. We're talking about the best Buffalo could have
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: hoped for was ten seconds or so.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: Talking about the end of the game now, No.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the half. The half, the end of
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: the game. They executed to perfection. Other than that they
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: didn't get it first down.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: And they would have if they hadn't had the penalty
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: because Drake had snuck for the first he got it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: It was not the same possession.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Before. Okay, but the.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't really understand why Mike called let the time
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: go after I would have called the time out with
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: like thirty seconds left twenty You know, twenty five seconds left,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, and then now I can
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: run anything I want. I think that's more important to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: have my playbook open to me. So then you get
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a situation that happened, you get a penalty because you're thinking, well,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: you got plenty of time to run your three plays
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: or whatever, and then if we don't get in. I
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: think it was third and goal from like the twelve
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: or something like that, because I think they got a penalty.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: It did get a penalty, right, so you had plenty
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: of time to get you a three plays off and
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: then kick a field goal, except for Trey White gets
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: called for pass interference in the end zone, which now
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: gives you a new set of downs, and now you
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: don't have time for three plays. So of seconds left.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I think if they had called time out earlier, they
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: would have had a little more time. Now.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: I think that was I know I tried.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Wait, I think he tried because he tried to call
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: the time out earlier because I was watching him on
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: the sideline. He was all the way down on the
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: sideline and he was barking at the official because I
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: think he was yelling for time out like it looked.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Like they showed him and he was waiting and then
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: he went like this at eighteen seconds.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: So maybe he was just trying to get the guy's attention,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: but he looked a little bit, so.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: No one even more upset that I didn't get that question. Yes,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I could be.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe he was just trying to communicate what you're saying,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: that they were waiting for a certain time, But it
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: looked to me like he was like, you know, are
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: you going to put some time back on them?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: He wanted him to go because they let it run
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: to seventeen and he specifically said he wanted it at eighteen. Okay,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: that's what he called it. And that's what you know.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I was wondering if you when you were ill, I
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: think like that eighteen second mark is what And they
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: still had a time out, by the way, might be,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: so it wasn't like they might have it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: They might have it timed out that that's the amount
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: of time they need to run a certain amount of you.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: To run any place they want without having to, you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: while still saving the time out for a field goal
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: if we need it. Yeah, because that's important down there too.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Now what I would say, Fred, I agree with you
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: there's no way of knowing you're going to get a penalty,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: but you had the ability to factor that in, like
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: at this point, you're not worried about giving Buffalo the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: ball back. There's not enough time, right, yep? You know.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: So I just thought that that was a they lost
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: a play there, and I thought they were fortunate that
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that the incomplete pass only for thy seconds.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know, I thought that was it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Now I understand because I think Drake threw it a
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: little bit earlier because of that, and I think had
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that been that been like eight seconds left, that's a touchdown.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: And if you notice, I think he did throw it
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: because Henry didn't look right and.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Look, yeah, he wasn't looking. Yeah, that's what I said
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: to Evan. I said, I felt like he had if
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: he took a beat more. It's an easy it's an
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: easy touchdown.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: But I think in his mind's eye he's thinking, I,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I can't get it, get time again. But definitely a
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: it's definitely a whole scenario worth talking about, and Mike
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: did get a lot of questions about it yesterday. I
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: just thought it was interesting Frabel's response when I.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Say, yeah, you know, like you can it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I could have done it this way.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I go for fourth and ones on my own fifteen
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and then this one I didn't go for But I
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I understood the mentality earlier. And you know what I
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: kind of liked Freddy was that it wasn't just the
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: numbers say I could get this eighty percent of the time,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: So the numbers say go for it. The numbers, I'm
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: sure right, ev like fourth and goal from the one,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I mean the second goal from the one. I'm sure
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the numbers suggested.
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: You could go right most of the time.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: So this one he actually taking. But he went with
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the flow of the game. And again you can disagree
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: with him. I'm not telling you that he made the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: right call. I think Evan probably sounds like you would
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: have gone for it, And I don't think Evan's wrong.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: I don't think I would have gone for it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have either, because I think that his rationale
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: like game the game has changed.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't have gone for it, very exact justification
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: that Rabel gave, Like they outplayed in.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: The first half and they deserve to go in with you, right, There's.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Something to be said for even if it's a three
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: point lead. There's something to be said for the fact
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: that you have a three point lead and we hung
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: with them, and we kind of outplayed them, and we're
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: feeling pretty good, Whereas it's very demoralizing. If they go
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: for it on foard down and they don't.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Get it, that's it and it gives the other team moment.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: And was also getting the ball to start the second half.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: So earlier in the first half, I think it might
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: have been the Patriots' third possession round midfield and they
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: had that fourth and three that they ended up punting
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: another one.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Now that raised my eyebrows.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Now that was to me, I can unders because if
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: the feel of the game, his defense is playing pretty well,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: you give him the ball right there, it's probably sure points.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I wasn't upset that he didn't go.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: For but it's another good one, Freddy, I think that's great.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you listened a lot to Mike
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: and I because I know it was late.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: No.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: We talked about a lot of this crowd because the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: minutia and I do like the I think that Vrabel
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: has been a little bit more analytically bent than I
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: would have imagined. But I was really pleasantly surprised to
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: see that he does at least take the game, because
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I think if you went into that game, you would
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: have said, this is a game we need points right four,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: fourth and three from midfield, we're going to go for it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Second and goal with one second left from the one.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: We're going to go for it because we need points.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: But as you said, perfectly, the game unfolded into such
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a way where you would previously pin them back with
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: a good baroner punt at the fourteen. I think, of
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: course you get help because immediately Buffalo gets a holding penalty.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: It makes it first and seventeen. They did that two
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: consecutive possessions. Your defense is doing it, so why not
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: try to back them up again? That the second one,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I think is that the one that led to the
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: keyon Coleman fumble. It might have been which set up
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: points in the game. So I liked the fact that, yes,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: he's not afraid to go forward and fourth down, even
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: in unconventional spots, but he's also not afraid to use
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: the way the game is unfolding.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: A slave to the numbers, and he's not a slave
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to the numbers.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: It's not one hundred percent.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Every game isn't the same.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: You know, playing last week against whoever the hell we
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: beat last week is not the same as playing against
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, you know. So maybe if you're with the
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Panthers at fourth and three you do go for it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I would think that would be that doesn't matter.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: But I when you're playing Josh like Alan, you don't
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: win by field goals, right like that would bet, but
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: one was a little differ, that would be the game.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: That's why I said going into the game. That's exactly
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: how I would that would be every one of those
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: if you would ask me before the game.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Yea, so.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Anything else before we kind of they still can't cover Concaid.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well the tight ends.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: The tight ends in general or the problem. And I
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: think both their safeties are free safeties. Like they're both
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: guys that are best playing deep zones, you know, helping
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: over the top doing that sort of thing. Neither one
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: of their their safeties, at least right now. With Craig Woodson,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: who I do kind of like, by the way, like
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I can kind of see the light with him, Like.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I like him a lot more than he flies.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Like he can really run and he can hit, uh,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: but he can't cover in man to man and neither
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: really can Jalen Hawkins.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Hawkins struggles I think every week.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: They need to figure out, especially when you play a
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: tight end that can actually impact the game like a
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: like a Kincaid can in the passing game, they need
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: to figure out a different formula of how are we're
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: going to cover these tight ends, whether that's you know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Carlon Davis as a game plan element is on him,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: or Alex Austin or Marte Mapu or just somebody else,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe even giving Kyle Dugger. I know he's
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: had issues with it in the past, but I think
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: he's been better at it in the past than Hawkins
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: and Woodson have shown so far. But whether it was man,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: whether it was zone, Kincaid was opened the entire game.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was tough.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: So we're talking about coming out games, Alex bartskuy Borgalis, Yeah, yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: a little coming out moment there.
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: Big kick and right down Main Street, Like yeah, what.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: I thought was interest saying is very able talked about
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: like his mechanics and when it looks right, and I mean,
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: I think we all saw that this summer that there
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: were certain kicks sometimes where the ball's going ten to
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: four and don't look quite right. That kick looked perfect
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: right down, So I think it's it's funny. It's one
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: of those things you don't really realize it, but you
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: have a good sense of, you know, verybel compared to
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: a kicker, like when it was hit right and it
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: looks right, you know it, And that's he's he looks
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: like he's found a little groove.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: He's got to keep it up, yeah, him for.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: His And I know, you know, there is some browsing
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: on Paul's shows about how much they've been kind of
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: hyping up the kicker. You know, I think he got
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: a game ball again ward and then when he came
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: into the locker room.
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: They were chanting his name. I heard that, Oh is
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: that right?
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: And and the whole team, like the whole locker room,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: and like, can we remember that this is like a
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: twenty two year old kid, right.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Like he like he's a rookie that had.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Some struggles, you know in Miami especially, and they're trying
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: to lift the kid up like they need him, like
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: he's the kicker and they need him to make kicks
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: like that, And so they're trying to boost his confidence,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: and like, I don't understand why, like you know, you're
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: giving the kicker a game ball. I don't understand why
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: we can't see that like Drake May is awesome, Like
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: he doesn't need the game ball to know that he's awesome.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't really hear anything yesterday that the Felg and
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Mas make fun of them for giving him the game ball.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Yesterday, I wasn't listening to Felger and Maz. I don't
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: want to name the show directly.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I heard fred Fred Toucher in the morning was making
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: fun of the team for chanting his name. I heard that, yeah,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: but like you said, you thought that was disrespectful to
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: the player, which I didn't really understand. But I didn't
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: hear anybody making fun of getting a game ball for
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: this game. I heard them when you missed the two
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: extra points.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: But it's all.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Connected though, right, Like it's all And I think that
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: this is one thing that I'm not you know, look,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I'm next as a nose guy. But Rabel, there's something
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: about Rabel when it comes to motivation that he's just
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: really really good at pushing all the right buttons with
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: certain guys and he's clearly trying to inflate Borgolis's ego.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Like he's true clearly trying to gain get the kids
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: some confidence. Uh, you know, early on in his career
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: and so far, Like he drilled that kick in a
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: really tough environment, you know, with the game on the line,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: he puts it right through the middle of the uprights.
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: Like, yeah, I'm not saying that was very bold, like
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: did it?
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: But like overall, there's there seems to be a lot
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: of emphasis on supporting each other on the team. You know,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: they have this new chant at the end of the
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: in the locker room, we're all we got, We're all
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: we need. Uh, that's that's kind of the new thing.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: It hasn't really replaced. Oh yeah, but they say it
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: just before that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: It's a digs thing. I feel like that came from this.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: It might it might be. It might be.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: But there's a lot of you know, I love you,
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: and like because we hear the miked up a lot,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: and you know, we hear the whole thing, most of
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: it doesn't get used, you know, but there's a lot
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: of you know, I love you and a lot a
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: lot of that stuff up and some people don't like that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: But that seems to be the things that people get upset.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems to be like something Rabel wants to
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: emphasize is that we're you know, we're.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: All in it together.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I'm sure every team does that,
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: but it's very very out there.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: It's very out you know, it's very different.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Than what we've experienced, you know here in his look
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: it came as advertised, this is what I thought of
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Mike Rabel, that he would be a player's coach and
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: you know a guy that. I mean, you hear him
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: say it all the time, like it will always be
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: about the players. I mean, I've heard him say that
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: a number of times.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I think, I don't.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Billy used to say that too, but I you know, I.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: Believe it with Rabel and you know the way that
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: he really seems to care about these guys. And I
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: think he's done a great job here through through five weeks.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: He's got the new thing where it's not new, he's
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: been doing it since the beginning of the season, where
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: he stands out in front of the locker room as
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: the players come in that's win or lose.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does that, and.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: His energy when he said to Diggs, let's get the
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: hell out of here.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: I was right there. I was like, hell, yeah.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: You know, let's packed this thing up and let's go
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: real quick.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: I just wanted to piggyback off your thing about poor Gosses.
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: I just remembered, uh in the two thousand and six
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: training camp when Gostowski was a rookie and Bill pulled
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: the thing of make this kick, we're off for the day,
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: and he made it. And I still remember the picture
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: which was you know, probably taken by Silverman or Eric
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: out at that point, but you know, him getting propped
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: up and they, you know, everybody picked up.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So it's the same thing, you.
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: Know, the kickers in their head cases, concerted efforts to
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: try to like nurture these guys and build their confidence
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: in any chance you get to give them some recognition
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: and positive reinforcement.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I think you got to take it. It's a tough job.
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: You're on that position.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: It's all between the years, Like all these guys can
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: kick the crap out of the ball, say this all
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: It's all mental.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: It's not like these other positions where it's you know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: there's real physical elements to it that you need to
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: kind of have to have it, like all these kickers.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: It's there are mental cases and so like when you
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: have a guy, like a young kid like that, you
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: know his confidence goes away and he'll have a rookie
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: season like Chad Ryland had here.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: A couple of years ago.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And like when you're competitive and you're trying to
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: make a push here.
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: You know you're going to be in a lot of
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: games that are closed.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: You come off an off season, a training camp where
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: you didn't really outright win the job. You know the
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: other guy was just as good as you, and you're
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: wondering what your teammates think about that.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I just think that you know, they have a real
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: chance to be playing meaningful football in December and January,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: and when you're in close games against good teams, like
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: you're gonna win a lot of games by three points
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: when the time expires, and they need him to be
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: able to make those kicks, and you know that that
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: means channing his name.
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: When he comes into the locker room. Then that's what
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: they're gonna have to do.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Yep. So that's the game, right, Yeah, anything else.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Just what really study with like the star power and
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I know we don't like we've been a little critical
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: of the Patriots roster in recent years. They won four
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: games back to years, But I do think that they
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: were very aggressive and free agency this year, and I
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: think they brought in some talent and then some of
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the younger guys that they've drafted. But this game, to
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: me was about your stars, Drake May, Stefan Diggs, Christian Gonzales.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if they're the three best
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: players in the team. You put Milton Williams and Barmore
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: probably in that group for five, But you won the
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: game because your your studs performed when you needed them to.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: It were stud like and they were like buffalos.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs was otherworldly in that.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, making that first guy miss.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had like seventy yards after the catch, right,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Like that was like a time machine game for him.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: He hasn't really done that in years.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: That was probably the best receiver wide receiver game for
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Patriots since like Edelman and Seattle maybe like twenty twenty. Yeah, right,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: you know, like that was as good of a game
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: as I've seen the Patriots wide receiver play in half
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: a decade.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: That was just like a big standout to me. It's
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: like we've been, and I've been. I'm guilty as anybody
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: you know, Like they just don't have enough talent, they
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: don't have enough difference makers. Well you have difference makers.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe you still don't have enough of them starting to
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: make a difference. But the difference makers made a difference
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Sunday night. And again I'm not I'm not gonna sit
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: here and crap all of the Buffalo. I think I
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: think Buffalo is excellent. I think the Patriots when they
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: needed to be, they were. They were better. When they
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: needed to make plays to win the game, they were better.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I mean those blitzes that McDermott dialed up, they all worked,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: they all got there. Drake just beat them.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because Drake was better, especially to.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: Like looking at that game, who Buffalo's identity was coming
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: in and what they wanted to be, and the Patriots
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: just didn't let them do it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: They didn't let the.
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: Game get dictated by James Cook and the ground game.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: You know, certainly kincaid Is is probably an exception to that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: But they were pretty tight with tackling, Like they haven't
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: been great at tackling, but Shakiir breaks more tackles than
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: anybody as a wide receiver, and yeah he made some catches,
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: but well, I was just impressed with that they were
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: right there, guys that even you know, even a Jalen
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: Hawkins who gives up a catch boom tackled, you know.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: So those are positive things.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: I just I think your expectations of going against another
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: elite and I don't say another, but going against an
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: elite NFL offense, like they're gonna make plays, They're gonna
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: make some of your players look bad. You just have
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: to be able to fight the long play the long
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: game and make your plays when it counts. And I
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: just have confidence this defense is starting to do that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Oh right, so really quickly because I try to keep
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: you know it in my pants about Drake for the
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: first hour of the show.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I tried. I tried my best there there.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: There was multiple times both live and then watching this
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: game back where I did.
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: The Collins were like, oh my god. Yeah, I mean,
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: like the second half was a masterclass.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Like that was as good of a second half I've
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: seen a quarterback play all year.
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: He was phenomenal.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the stats are the stats. Who was
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: thirteen for fourteen, like one incomplete pass went off Trevon
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Henderson's hands. It was just throw after throw, and I
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: thought of Paulie. I thought of Paul you know, talking
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: about against Carolina's in Miami's like mcdaniels's scheming guys open
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: and guy receivers are popping open, you know, down the
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: field and all that stuff, and that's you know, I
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: love that kind of stuff. I love breaking it down.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: But this game was we're going to drop that pass
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: and our guy is just going to be better than
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: your guys and he's just going to make play after
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: play after play. Yeah, And that was just incredible. I mean,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I know everybody's talking about the throw of you know,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: hanging all over him, and you know he kind of
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: like blew the read on that one, to be honest,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: but he you know, makes the throw there to start
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: that drive. But the whole shot to Booty is just
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: as good. I mean, that throat.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I underestimated that that throw live and then we went
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: back and I and I looked at it Matt Smith
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: when he came into post game, so she was like,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: what about the one the booty? And I was like,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I gave Booty all the credit for the awareness to
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: get down yeah and stay in bounce. But then I
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: looked back and I was like, that was there's a
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: guy hitting him. Throws to get it there, perfect yeah, perfect.
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: Perfect hole shot.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: And he actually I think he felt the pressure from
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: the side, so he actually drifted a little bit to
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: the right to buy himself just like an extra half
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: beat before he had to throw the ball, and then
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: he fits it right into the cover two hole. I mean,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: the one that Henry up the middle of the field,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: came off the first read, came into Henry the middle
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: of the field and just rips it down the steam
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: to Henry.
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: He had one to Remandre.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: On a check down where he got forced out of
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: the pocket and he's rolling out. He just kind of
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: flicked it to Remandre with anticipation and Remander just broke
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: right into the ball. I mean, just there's like five
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: or six throws in the second half that are just,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: you know, unbelievable.
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, just put it roll.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because at the beginning of the season.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: A lot of the scribes came out with their best
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: quarterback rankings and a lot of Patriots fans would be
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: really upset because in these lists, May would be like
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: in the low twenties or you know, twenty five, and
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: you know they would be pissed off. But at that time,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: he hadn't really shown that he deserved to be in
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: the top. But now he's doing that now, certainly the
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: numbers say it, but now the numbers.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Are through the roof.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: But I mean he's knocking on the top ten of
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: anybody's list.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now he has to be right, he's a top
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: ten Patriots fans, you have a.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Right to be upset if he's not in the on
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: top of those lists.
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think he should.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Like the Bills had won fourteen straight games at home,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: and he went into the MVP's house and now played
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: him right like that. That is, I mean that in
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: his second year in the league. And I know everybody
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: keeps comparing him to Josh Allen and I do it too,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: and I get it. He's way ahead of where Josh
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Allen was in his second season. Now, I don't know
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: if he's quite as like physically imposing like Allen's like
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: six six, two thirty five, like Allen's a tank like.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know if Drake may is quite built that way.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: He's not.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: But from a number standpoint or whatever, Like Allen was
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: not playing this well this early on.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: He didn't play this good. I mean, he won a
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: lot of games, but he wasn't playing playing like this.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: All right, eight five to five pass five hundred is
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: the hot line. A lot of you been waiting patiently.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Uh so let's go to the phones. Anthony's in Seattle.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: What's up, Anthony?
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: We got our Yeah, we got a guy. That's it.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to say. We waited forty five
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: minutes to say that.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's it.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: That's not the whole thing that that's what he said.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: If they went to Buffalo, didn't Anthony say that last week?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: If we go to Buffalo and Drake May does this,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to call in on Tuesday and say,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: we got our guy.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: He's a man of his word.
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: It's a great call.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Patty's an agawab what's up, Patty?
• 52:41
  Speaker 10: What's going on? Gentlemen? Yeah, I can corroborate that Polly
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: to say that. First off, I just want to give
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: kudos to Polly and Fred for picking the bills where
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: I didn't have the cojones to pick them, but you
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: guys certainly did. My hat's off you guys, what a
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: great freaking game. I just wanted to throw a couple
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: of numbers at you guys too. That was the first
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: game in twenty seven games where Buffalo lost the turnover battle. Yeah,
• 53:05
  Speaker 10: and that was our first back to back wins since
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: weeks eight through eleven. There was a bye weekend there
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: in twenty twenty two. And for me, I don't know
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: how you guys feel about this, but I know they
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: didn't say all that great in the first half, but
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: this was the second game that I've seen them raise
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: the team around them and the two most important games,
• 53:28
  Speaker 10: the two on the road games, was in the Division
• 53:30
  Speaker 10: at Miami and on Sunday night.
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: That's all.
• 53:35
  Speaker 10: That's all I gotta say. I'm freaking psych Let's go baby.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: All right, And that is that's a great point. Two
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: road division wins right now?
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I mean those are the two you know,
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: not always maybe the hardest opponents, but you know, if
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: you look at getting to the playoffs, win the division
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: every year, the game at Miami, in the game of Buffalo,
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: you have circled right out of the gate and for
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: able to win those two road games right out of
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: the gate. It's it's definitely feather in.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: That Pittsburgh game might come back to haunt us. Yes,
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: it was in that freaking game. Or the Oakland game.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the Oakland game too. I look at them.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh one was right there. Just don't turn the
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: ball over.
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's okay, I didn't go.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: These are all the trials and tribulations that you know, Yeah,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: they kind of they kind of needed for the season.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: If you said you were going to be three and
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: two after the first five, like, okay, I'll take that.
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: It's a good way to coach it regardless who you beat.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Guys, if we didn't turn the ball over, we probably
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: win this game by ten points. Just don't turn the
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: ball over and we're going to be fine.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: So I would actually say, because I hate that that
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: mentality that if you told me, I would actually say
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I'd be more excited the way it came out, Like
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: winning in Buffalo and Miami and being three and two
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: is better than if they had beaten the Steelers at home.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go to Ivan in California.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: What's up Ivan? Ivan? Ivan? Gone?
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: All right, one more, we'll take a break Chris with
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: a T. I A N what's up?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Christian?
• 55:06
  Speaker 11: Incredible game.
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: Didn't go to slates till two o'clock that morning. Woke
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: up a stick like I slept eight hours. Went back, baby,
• 55:13
  Speaker 8: went back all the way, baby, all the way.
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: Let's go.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: You got it? Who wow?
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Just that's what I wanted from you in Sunday night.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: You were a little subdued, but there were people around
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: you could use outside could you not? Could you not
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: really go go full Fred?
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: Okay, we had to walk through bos mafia.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: That story is great.
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: Trying to fight me?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or they were they knew who you were? No did.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: I did see a couple of Patriots fans on the
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: way out and did like a little quiet because like
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: those guys went like they went to a game in
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: that environment with Patriots gear on. Yeah, like that's ballsy,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: And they came out a lie first of all, which
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: is good, and then second of all, they won the game,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: So I was like, thanks for coming.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I mean it was it was loud there, It was loud.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: They all had their white shirts on their rivalry uniforms.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Like the whole thing is so corny, like and I
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: just ran about this for a second, Like.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: This isn't college football.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: It's not Penn State like you you guys, like, come on,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I don't mind that it's a faterrible.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: It's that they have a fan base. It's willing to
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: do that. This is the NFL.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: This isn't high school football in Texas. It's like it's sports.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: So like, okay, like you can do whatever you want
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: all the time. That's that's what that is. That's small
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: city stuff. Like when the Celtics put the green jerseys in.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: That's different that you're because you're no, it's not okay, no,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: it's because they they give you those.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I'd be right, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: And what I will say is you.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Can be okay with it, but it's corny like but.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: The fact that their fans are so into it that
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: they're all I would just.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Say that it's cliche. I mean, I'm with you, Fred,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not anti fun. I think those kinds of stuff,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: you know, those kinds of things like.
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: I have fun with the football gimmick.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Winnipeg Jets and hockey. You go and everybody's wearing white,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: like it's kind of cool. I think it's fun. Now,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: if you want to say, like the Bills do something else,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: that's what everybody else does. That's cliche, okay, but I
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: don't have any problem with that whatever. I mean. I
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: think the uniforms look pretty cool.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I think because their new stadium, it's right next to it.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: It's huge and it's like really tall. It towers over
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: the old one. I guess they have PSLs and they're
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: still selling. They're not sold out yet. I wonder if
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: the atmosphere will get hurt a little bit because they're
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: pricing out, you know, the hard core.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Just to be clear, I have all the respect in
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: the world for the Mafia. I have friends in the Mafia.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I like the Bills Mafia fans. I like their fan base.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: It's not anti fan base thing. You guys are are
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: so beyond above things like gimmicky white out.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: That's what I said. You could say it's cliche, but
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: like that's all I'm saying.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Like, you guys are a very good football team that
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: probably should win the AFC.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: So just according to the extracted at the uniforms. Yeah,
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: one thing I will say about their rivalry's uniform it's
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: a it's like a silver ru white.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: So the numbers are very very hard to see?
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Were they hard for you in the press because you
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: could see them happen, which is a big it's a
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: big I could see them veteran move.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I had binoculars, but.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I would say it was It was not hard on TV,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: but I could I could understand having that that problem
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: from the press box, not a kind of like when
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: they had the red numbers that year for the Patriot
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Blue it was kind of hard to see from the
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: press box. Could I just asked you this?
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Two?
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Fred?
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: And you've been going to that stadium for a while now.
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: I know it's a dump. I know that there's all
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: kinds of technology issues, but like, are you happy to
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: see that old stadium kind of go? Are you going
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: to miss that atmosphere that they clearly.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not good? I miss it one.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Fred brings up a great point though about the crowd,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: and I do think you run the risk of that
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: it's happening at Yankee Stadium.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the best self, It's the best crowd in
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: the NFL.
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: I've never been to.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: The stadium used to be ridiculously loud and it still
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: gets there but not the same. And there's a lot
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: like those they would watch a Yankees game in the
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: regular season. All those seats are empty around because they
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: cost a million dollars, like no one can afford them.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: They still get it for the playoffs and stuff, but
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: sometimes you lose a little of that advantage that you have.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: And I think Fred might be onto something if they're
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: going to try those Evans guys.
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: You know, I think it's I think it's different though.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Like to me, this what makes the bill stadiums so
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: great is that it's very low and so like the
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: fans are like on top of the field. Like it's
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: not one of these like big monstrosity stadiums where you're
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: you're sitting like on the moon compared to the game.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: It's one of these stadiums where it's really like a
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: college football stadium.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: It was one. It was very similar to the old Foxborough.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: It was identical at one time, and they had you know,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: And the one thing I'll say about it is you
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I have watched a game from the stands there in Buffalo.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: It's great sight lines. It's a dump. It's not a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: good stadium, But I understand what Evan's talking about and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: you will lose something because you're going to have a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: modern stadium with modern amenities.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: And so I'll tell you the story. My first time
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: at that stadium was nineteen ninety five, and it's cold
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: out and if you've never been there as a writer before,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: you don't know how to get to the press box,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: especially from where you get dropped off with the team bus.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: It's not obvious how to get there. You have to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: go through the crowds and everything. And so we win
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: the game and it's like the apocalypse. There's fights in
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: the stands, like the fans are just pissed off, and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm with somebody else that we're trying to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: make our way back to the buses and down to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: where they're doing the press conferences, and we take a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: wrong term and we end up in the stands.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: So now we're looking down into the end zone.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: We have to get over this wall to get into
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: the ramp, and so we're fighting away and literally this
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: guy's punching each other out. And we get down there
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: and I see a cop and I'm like, I'm gonna
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: go over the wall, and the cop looks at me, goes, okay,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: there's a door right there.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I will not through that as far
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: as covering the game goes. I will not miss that stadium.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: I'll miss it for fans. But the fact that you
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: have to go outside to go back inside and then
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: you have to go outside through the mafia coming out
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: of the little door that's not mark right, and you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: have to like go you're going against the current, like
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: they're coming out and you're trying to go kind of
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: diagonally through. And like, there's no other stadium in the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: NFL where you have to go outside with the fans
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: to go back inside to go to the down to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: the locker room. It's the only one that's like that here,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: you know, for people that don't know, there's just an
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: elevator that takes you right down to the field level
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: and you walk through the guts of the stadium down
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: to the locker room. So this one you have to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: literally go out into the concourse and walk through the
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: concourse as everybody.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: Is trying to leave.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: And you put on top of that, they just lost
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: a game that they were seven and a half point
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: favorites in and like so now they're pissed that they
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: lost the game.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: This is the same place, remember Shane Donaldson. So it's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: it's it was a December game. There's snow and ice everywhere,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: even on the concourse and where like Evan said, we're
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: walking through the concourse to get back to the press
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: box against the Grain and poor Sean and Shane has
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: he's got serebal palsy. So he's you know, kind of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: walking like he walks and he's got his laptop in
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: his arm and he hits a piece of ice and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: just goes down.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Well someone kind of knocked them down. Yeah, Like as
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Evan said, you're going against the Grain.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: And the laptop goes flying, it cracks, and he's on
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: the ground and people are just walking over him.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he had I remember, like he had
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: his hands as he's you know, lifting himself up, and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: he's got no gloves on. They're yelling him, where's your gloves, idiot,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: like screaming at him, and he's just in a panic
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: because he thinks Fred's going to be pissed at him
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: for breaking the leftop.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: It just makes me a little sad because I love
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: when you turn on the TV to watch a game
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: and you know exactly what stadium it is and what
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: that home crowd is like.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, the newer.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: Stadiums are all becoming so just these monstrosities that are
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: void of personality and they all kind of feel the same,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: and you don't really like Seattle is a good example of,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: you know, one where it still feels like there's a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: home field advantage. Otherwise, like you're in LA, you don't
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: know if the Rams are the Chargers are playing, you're
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: in New York, you know if you know, I mean,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: they change the colors, but there's just no personality to it.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: And that's what I love about stadiums.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: And all you guys are saying, right, you can't continue
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: going with the stadium like that, but just makes me
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: sad that you know, it's just gonna be another one
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: of these huge things that you're like, oh.
• 1:04:04
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any more update, Tom Gibson,
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  Speaker 2: But along with that, do you.
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  Speaker 5: Anticipate having to make some kind of move to sure
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  Speaker 5: up to running back?
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  Speaker 14: Well, No, don't have any update yet. Got back late.
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  Speaker 14: Some guys are still going through some some test and
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  Speaker 14: some medical evaluations. Hopefully I'll know more of this early
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  Speaker 14: this afternoon, but we'll keep you updated if we If
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  Speaker 14: we add anybody go to roster, or we feel like
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  Speaker 14: we need guys at any position. We think that like
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  Speaker 12: Just getting a win like that, do you feel like
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  Speaker 12: it does anything in terms of your message resonating with
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  Speaker 12: your team.
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  Speaker 14: I don't. Maybe I don't know if I look at
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  Speaker 14: it like that. I think that you know the the
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  Speaker 14: buy in, you know, I don't know how you necessarily
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  Speaker 14: define that, you know, just trying to show them, I
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  Speaker 14: think what they're capable of doing when we can do
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  Speaker 14: it together in all three phases and play up up
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  Speaker 14: to our identity. Because it wasn't great. I thought we
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  Speaker 14: played really hard. I thought we thought we flew around
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  Speaker 14: on defense. I thought we tried to hammer the football out.
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  Speaker 14: Sometimes we did sometimes we did it. They made some plays,
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  Speaker 14: But I thought we have, even offensively, a lot of
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  Speaker 14: room to grow special teams. Wise, we didn't have the
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  Speaker 14: impact that we maybe or we're used to the previous
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  Speaker 14: weeks or some of the phases. So I think that,
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  Speaker 14: you know, we continue to show them those things and
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  Speaker 14: what we need to improve the things that we do well.
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  Speaker 14: I do think that they are trying to uphold the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 14: style of play that we want to play with, and
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 14: then we'll just it's every week is a challenge, and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 14: then we'll move on. And you know, we're prepare to
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 14: go down and play the Saints that are coming off
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 14: a huge win at home, and you know, that's where
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  Speaker 14: we're at, you know. So I'm happy for the players.
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  Speaker 14: I'm always happy for the players. They're the ones that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 14: go out and do it. I appreciate the coaches efforts,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 14: but you know, we we expect, you know, a good
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  Speaker 14: week of practice. We expected to go in and and
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  Speaker 14: and play well and give ourselves a chance to win.
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  Speaker 14: And that's what we did. And again hopefully we can
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  Speaker 14: build some confidence by the way that we played.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we gave up a.
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  Speaker 14: Touchdown drive to start the second half, but our offense
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 14: came back and answered, and they went down and tied
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 14: the game, and we came back and made a kick
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  Speaker 14: and executed the time and the clock and you know,
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  Speaker 14: gave them, you know, an MVP quarterback very little time
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 14: to to be able to do anything. So those those
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 14: are things that we had to do and so maybe
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 14: that get we can show them and says what's capable of?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 14: This is how we'd like to maybe do it a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 14: little bit differently, But I mean I don't question to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 14: buy in. I mean, I think that they're trying. We
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 14: just go a lot of things we can improve on.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 9: Helped along pint of those lines that to min a
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 9: drill at the end that you know by trad to.
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  Speaker 2: Win the football game, what does that do for It's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: like that, I.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 14: Mean, you have to be putting those situations, and I
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 14: think you have to be in that situation to to
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 14: be able to feel it and you know, execute it.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 14: Even the last play, the third downplay, we're trying to
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 14: you know, catch one out of there to the to
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 14: the flat and see if we can't get somebody to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 14: break free out there. And you know, we've been talking
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 14: about not throwing that ball away in that particular situation again,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 14: not to necessarily unless it was to lose yardage, and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 14: he made a great decision to not lose yardage but
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 14: also keep the clock going. So I think that those
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 14: situationally is where he's starting to improve. Not that those
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 14: situations aren't critical, but there's so much that he and
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 14: Josh and Ashton and the offense are doing, you know,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 14: with him right to understand those first and second down,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 14: you know, operations procedures versus pressure and third down, and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 14: then it's like, okay, two minutes and oh, by the way,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 14: like we want to be a good five minute football team.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 14: We want to because that means that we're ahead and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 14: that we're controlling the ball and the clock and that
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 14: we're using all the time. And but there there's certain
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 14: things that probably are a little lower on the list
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 14: of priorities. There's a lot more first and second third
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 14: down snaps than there are five minute snaps, not to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 14: make those less important, but you know, we're we're practicing
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 14: in them, and we're showing him and he's understanding. And
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 14: so that was good to because when you get into
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 14: that situation, you're pretty much in a it's two minutes,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 14: but it's really five minute. You're trying to, you know,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 14: take care of the clock to the best of your advantage.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 14: So a lot of things that we can coach from
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 14: and and hopefully have some confidence.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: With with the decision at the end of the how
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: to kick the fields.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 8: I'm just kind of curious your thoughts on that one.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 14: I know, I just didn't want to do all that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 14: and not come out of there with points, and that
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 14: just the way that the first half had gone, I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 14: felt like, and not to look at the other side
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 14: of the coin, but to come out of there tied.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 14: I just felt like at least we could say, you know,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 14: we we were we were in the first half, and
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 14: that we were in a position to kind of do
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 14: some things, so you know that may change next week
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 14: or the following week. And just felt like at that
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 14: point how it was going, just wanted to make sure
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 14: we came out of there with with points and a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 14: good feeling going into half.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 12: Do you do you have a plan for those types
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 12: of situations going into a.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Game like that one like you and your staff saying
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: for the PAP we might have to be impressive and
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: go for six. But then did it change just based.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 14: On the flow of the game, And I think at
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 14: that point in time it did. I mean, we plan
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 14: on trying to be aggressive and not reckless. You know,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 14: those are conversations that that stretching I have that we communicate,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 14: you know, to Josh and to you know, everybody else
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 14: m certain times throughout the game where it's third and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 14: eight and if we get it close enough that it's
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 14: four down, we try to tell them that and if
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 14: we don't get any yards or lose yards and then
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 14: we make a decision to punt. I think that the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 14: communication there is going well, trying to be one play ahead,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 14: you know, but to Stefan's credit, you know, I mean
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 14: we're trying to coach that when a guy's not playing
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 14: the football, you know, I mean, go back and create contact,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 14: show the official that you're making attempt to go back
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 14: to the ball and go through the defender when he's
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 14: not playing the ball. So I would have liked to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 14: reward him with a touchdown. Wasn't able to do that.
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  Speaker 14: But yeah, I think that there's games where you certainly
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 14: want to be you know, you feel like you need
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 14: to be aggressive, especially a team that's averaging close to
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 14: thirty four points a game.
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  Speaker 1: The chance so either.
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  Speaker 2: Watch it back or even in real time.
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  Speaker 3: What did you see on the past from Drake made
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: a days where he was like being you know, half
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: falling over as he got the ball out.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 12: Just what did you see on my play?
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  Speaker 14: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, we made it was
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 14: an eight yard loss to a twelve yard game, you know.
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  Speaker 14: Just you know, he's continuing to grow and gain confidence
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 14: and show us and show everybody and show his team
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 14: and himself the ability to operate in the pocket, ability
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 14: to operate uh and scheduled move the pocket plays and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 14: then also off schedule, so putting the ball and good
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 14: locations and only you know, not throwing behind guys and
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 14: you know, going on the move and putting the ball
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 14: in harm's way.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Anything in particular.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: You liked above the approach to rogues.
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  Speaker 14: And we had a good week of practice think that
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 14: they were really you know focused on what the environment
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 14: would be and what that would look like and how
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 14: we would have to operate and function. I thought that
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 14: was really important for a lot of young players that
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 14: maybe haven't been in a game of that magnitude. It
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 14: was good to see them, you know, respond and operate.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 14: And we had the one I guess, you know fall
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 14: start on the you know short yard is that was
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 14: you know, disappointing how close that was. I mean, that's
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 14: how they call it some of these guys and you
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 14: know hunters line of scrimmage penalties frustrating, you know what
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 14: I mean, looking over at official that's fifteen yards away
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 14: and I'll have to you know, try to get some
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 14: clarification on that and how we're going to do this
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 14: going forward, but proud of the guys and how the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 14: way they competed.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in history. You never get into
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: what is that hideous shirt you're wearing?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: It come with the frog colors, that shark.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: It's a polo. It's a green polo.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: That's not green.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: It is green, and it's got mustard all over the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: front of it.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: So it's like almost like the color of my Granny
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Smith apple.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: But that's not green. That's lose.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: That's a good point ugly shirt distracts people from his face.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Well wow, wow, Yeah, he's.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Just so mean. I can't believe he's ruined that. Wow.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: What is that bag that you're wearing? That's another great moment.
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• 1:16:35
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• 1:16:37
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• 1:16:41
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• 1:16:53
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• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: Paulie says, now that we've beaten.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Buffalo, I'm not the only one who keeps Now.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: That we've beaten Buffalo, what do you think our potential
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: is for the rest of the season.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Patriots will start to get more
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: attention after this win?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: It's a good yes and yes.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: The reason why I asked that wanted to read that
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: email because I wanted to ask everyone, now that we've
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: have you reset your expectations?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: I have, I said no, I've been on nine wins
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: all along, and I'm staying on nine wins.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: I have not moved.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think there'll be some ups and downs
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: continuing along the way. You don't know what injuries are
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: going to strike. They need to fund a running game.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: But the trajectory is pointed up.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: My mind was floor six, ceiling ten, and now I'm
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: veering more to the ceiling.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, i'd say the thing that's maybe affecting it
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: a little bit, not quite yet, but it's just the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: lack of the top dogs really being the top dogs.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: And now they're right now some new top dogs. But
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: we'll see if they stay top dogs. So that's that's
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: why I'm more interested in. It's just is the power
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: structure of the AFC going to all get a little
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: bit changed this year?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I have the same expectations of the Patriots because I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: thought they were going to be a much improved team,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: and I thought Mike Rabel would help and that Drake
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: may would get better and all the things that are happening,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: But the rest of the AFC in their schedule has.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Gotten He's anything, if possible.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: It's somehow it's even easier than what it looked like
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: coming into this season. H factin Baltimore right now, the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Bengals look like they might start Joe Flacco moving forward.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: They's traded for Joe Flacco with the Browns, so he
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: might be their quarterback. Who knows what is going to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: be going on in Baltimore By the time the Patriots
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: played the Ravens. You know, who's going to be healthy
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: for Baltimore. Are they even going to have a chance
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: still to be competitive this season at that point? If
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: these injuries don't get better for them quickly, so that
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: Ravens game now doesn't look so hard. Now the Tampa
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: game looks harder. I would say Tampa looks like a
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: real legitimate contender. But overall, I think that's the biggest thing,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: is like this schedule is yeah.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: And I do my expectations have risen for the Patriots too,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: And everything you haven't said about the AFC is factual.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: But I did not think that, and I kept my
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: caveat all year was unless Drake may X, right, I
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: think you've seen Drake may X like he's making the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: year two leap right in front of us. He's getting
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: better seemingly every game, and that's the big thing. Like
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Washington last year, I don't think was that much better
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: than they were the previous year. But the quarterback lifts everybody, yep.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: And in the second half Sunday night, the quarterback helped
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: lift everybody yep. And I can't you can't convince me
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: that the defense doesn't play better because it has belief
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: right in you know, the plays that are being made,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: but you know, look at the buy in for guys
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: like Booty who's getting one or two targets every week,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: but seems to make a play or two every week.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: He's the new David to Mario Douglas. To Mario Douglas
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: like throwing blocks at five foot eight and you know,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: getting called out by his head coach two weeks in
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: a row for his physicality. Like there's a buy in,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: And I think it's stems from a belief that they
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: have a quarterback that if they all do their jobs,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: he'll make sure that he does his and he's gonna
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: help us win. And I do think now I would
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: have thought eight, you know, eight wins was about the moment.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: I'm up. I'm almost to the point where I would
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: say that if Mike's nine ends up happening, I think
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: you might look it back at that and say, that's
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: a bit of a disappointment. That means they lost to
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: a couple of teams that you probably don't expect them to.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they I'm glad you mentioned the pop block
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: because that was on Diggs's thirty yard catch, the one
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: that he broke the tackle and ran after the catch
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: with If you watch that on the All twenty two,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: there's like four Patriots sprinting to Buffalo bills to get
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: blocks for Diggs once he breaks containing and once he
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: breaks Bishop's tackle, they have booties blocking his guy. Pop
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Douglas is shot out of a cannon to try to
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: get in front of Diggs to block the unblocked guy.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Austin Hooper converts into a blocker and is blocking down
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: the field. On the play, Garrett Bradbury is like twenty
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: yards down the field chasing it from behind, and like
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: that those types of things when you see that, like
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: that is like culture, Like when you talk about building
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: a culture and like effort and finish and all the
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: different stupid tropes that Rabel has, Like I know, like
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: some of that stuff's like corny and like cliche, but
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: like that is like that is where it comes out.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: It's not like the raw Ross speeches and all that
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff. It's when you turn the film on
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: and like there's blue hats just flying to the football
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: at all times on offense and defense. Like that's that's
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: the team that is bought into what they're doing.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Yep, iron shopper AND's iron right.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: Michael writes in remember when Fred was wared that Diggs
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: was being too emotional before the game. I think after
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: a ten for one forty six game. He can be
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: as emotional as he wants. He's the type of player
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: that feeds off that energy and absolutely plays his best
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: when he's playing with emotion. I understand the concerns, especially
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: how he has acted in the past, but he is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: now an eleven year vet and it's definitely grown up
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: quite a bit. My opinion, he was the exact kind
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: of veteran leadership we needed on this team.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: It's the biggest surprise for me.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, well, listen, okay, he can
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: blob me if he My point was, what if it
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: didn't what if he didn't get those targets? That was
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: my thing is he's all worked out that if it
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't work out, you continue on, because I yeah, I mean,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: it's great that he he showed up and showed out
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: so great. Great, But you know, I stand by what
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: I said.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Last Wednesday in the locker room.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 6: There was just something, a little bit, a little fire
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: in his eye that he could kind of sense that
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: he was looking at this game different. And I don't
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: know what. I don't know what Stefan Diggs was like
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: early in his career. I don't know what kind of
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: guy or leader he was within the locker room. I
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: wasn't there to see it, but I wasn't expecting him
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: to be such a force on this team that everybody
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: seems to really be rallying around. And I think the
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: wide receiver room needed this leadership. They needed this kind
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: of guy who can also back it up with the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: talent on the field. And you know, I think that's
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: part of what's keeping guys like Booty in line or
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: you know, allowing them to stay patient. I mean, I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: said to Paul Evan, like mac hollins, he has no
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: problem running like sixty go routes a game and just
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: clearing out like he's not really getting targeted at all.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: But he's the kind of guy that Josh knows that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: you're going to block and you're going to run down
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: the field today and you might not have a catch.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: And I think that, you know, so I think that
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: room has a good dynamic last year, and it's completely
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: changed from what it was last year when they were
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: just up and down and immature.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Diggs has been really good in the leadership role. You know,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: I'm still a little skeptical of how long like long term,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: if that will continue, but yeah, they've gotten everything they
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: could have possibly wanted out of him on and off
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's two hundred yard games in a row.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: So like as much as this was like getting up
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: for Buffalo for him, like this game was obviously special
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: for him, but even still like the Carolina game, it
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: was already really good against Carolina and you could feel
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: that he was starting to perform at a much higher level.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: But I mentioned this to you guys off the air.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we posted it, but he when
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: he ran on the field, he didn't come out for
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: early warm ups, he didn't come out for T shirt warmups.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: He came out for jersey warm ups, and he ran
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: on the field and he was like dancing like as
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: he was running on the field, and he just like
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: had this like swagger to him that like you could
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: just tell that he was like in a zone already
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: in the game hadn't even started yet, and like, when's
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: the last time a Patriots receiver has had that kind
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: of swag?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: You know, he's than anyone we've had for a while.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a comment that he made to Melissa
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Stark too. I forget what it was now though, but
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: it was just like talking. It was like there's a
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: lot of conference, a lot of swag. Yeah, he was
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: ready to go. He's all sweaty before the game, he
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: was all lathered up. You could tell he had a
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: little different look.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Ye get to New Orleans this week.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this seems Mailer calls himself the gripes of wrath
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: in Las Vegas. First time emailer, medium time listener. Which
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: decision by the Bills do you think was worse one
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: trying to throw it on Christian Gonzalez's direction on critical
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: downs or two wearing a blizzard uniform while it's eighty
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: three degrees out. In all seriousness, my question is do
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: you think our receiver corps Stefan Diggs looks so good
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: because of the lack of secondary of the Bills. I
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: thought I remembered hearing that they were banged up in
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: missing key pieces. Just wanted to get your thoughts. Although
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: I know you will provide insightful analysis, I'm really looking
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: for confirmation bias that we back.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Also, overall, great.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: Performance by the Patriots and I'm stoked for the rest
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: of the season. Let's bring it back, Fred, say it
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: with me. Fifteen to two was still on the table.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: Their defense does have some injuries, not so much in
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: the secondary. You know, they didn't have Oliver in this game,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: and Matt Milano was in and out of the game,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: and I don't think he really played in the second half.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his absence was not in the second half. But
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: that's yeah, I thought they got beat by I actually
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: think the Bill's defense played pretty well. I think they
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: got beat by just superior individual performances by the quarterback
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: and the number one wide receiver. Yeah, like, how like,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you do different if you're
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: like on the sideline with Stefan Diggs on that plank.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I would say, pick any of one
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: of three or four plays. You know, maybe they could
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: have tackled him better at times in the course of
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: the field, But those toe taps on the sideline, It's
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: not like he was wide open and easily caught the
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: He had like tiny window that Draked threw it through
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: and then unbelievable hands catches while getting your feet down
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: that thirty one that with the anticipation on the broken
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: play down to the sideline. That wasn't bad coverage. Yeah, No,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: And that's having like a tiny window to throw it.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: How many times did we see that the shoes on
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: the other foot when it was Josh Allen throwing those
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: passes to Stefon Diggs and you're like, it's third and
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: eight and you're like, and it's just an absolute pinpoint.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: He taps his toes and first down. I mean, it
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: was nice to be on this side.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: I actually because I didn't I don't think a whole
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: lot of the Buffalo defense and all. And we talked
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: to a guy from the Buffalo News, Jay Skirsky, before
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: the game. I said, is the run defense as bad
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: as the numbers look? Or is it? No? No, he goes, well,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: they struggle to stop the run.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 14: It's not.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: It's not deceptive. They have a hard time. And you know,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: I thought they did a pretty good job against the run.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: And then you're looking and you know they blitched at times.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: They just got pressure with four at times, like I
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: just thought they flushed Drake out of the pocket. They
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: made him make some quick throws. I thought guys were
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: in the area. I didn't see a lot of just
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: like blowing coverages. I just saw Drake May and Stefan
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Diggs be better than the guys that were out there.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: I think that's what's more most encouraging about it is
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: that there wasn't like any of the like bills beating
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: themselves things. And they do a really good job in disguising.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: They were spinning the dial like crazy on them, you know,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: going one high, two high pictures, and they were they
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: were really trying to confuse him, and he read it
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: out like he saw all their different disguises are dropping
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: safeties from like the first and second level into the
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: DP paths and things like that, and he's seeing it,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: you know, processing it cleanly.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: The throwers you know, throw to Henry right up the
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: scene he sees, you know, he try it, thinks he
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: has one on one on the outside, and they spin
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: it into too high and he comes right off it
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: and goes right into the middle of the field to
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: the open part of the zone. And like, they're just
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: different things that they were doing that We're just they
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: were just executing at a higher level than the right.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Dan and Poughkeepsie, what's up, Dan?
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: Hey?
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: You guys?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 12: All right?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: So I really wanted to gush and ask about one
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 8: specific play. It was the first play on the game
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: winning drive, by Drake May. Obviously the best play I've
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: ever seen the kid make. But Evan, do you know
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: the play I'm talking about?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Yep?
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: Okay, do you have any running series on what Josh
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 8: was cooking up on that play? Like I saw Will
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 8: Campbell go to the other side? Yeah, do you have
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 8: any running series?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: I was just curious counter bash baby, Yeah, it's count
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: bash and they did not bash.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they thank you, Fred.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an option play, as I way over explained
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: it last week. Yeah, option play and they just they
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: just didn't block it very well. And Bill's just had
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting, like these are little things. And
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Drake May said that, you know, he was looking at
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: the stills when Borgolis was kicking the field goal, partially
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: because he didn't want to watch, but he also said
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: that he messed something up in the Running Game. And
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: I do think there are you know, I don't know,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not in the meeting rooms. I can't tell you
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: exactly what they're how they're telling him to coach things,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: but there are times where they run in the Run game,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: specifically where they're running a play and I'm like, yeah,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: that play is not going to work against that front
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: and they don't get out of the play. And I
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: thought that was one of those times because they the
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: Bills had a three technique over inside the b gap,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: over the guard and the tackle that we're pulling, and
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: Bradbury has to get all all the way from center,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: snap the ball and get all the way out to
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: the three technique and block the three technique. And I
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: just don't think that you're going to be able to
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: do that like that. That three tech is just gonna
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: fly right up the field exactly like he did, and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: he was on top of Drake. So I think that
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: that was one of those plays where they probably would
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: have liked that to as they say, can can you know?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah and get out of that one?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Thanks Dan. Let's go to Chicago. Nate's there. What's up? Nate? Nate? Chicago? Nate? Okay,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Nate is late. Let's go to Brian and Lowell. What's up? Brian?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: Brian and Lowell going three once twice, three times?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: You're out? Okay, back to the emails. The lines are
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: open up if you want to call in.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: Let's go Sam and Saint Catharine's obviously on cloud nine
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: after the win. But is it crazy to think we
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: could sweep the AFC East six and oh Jets are awful.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: Dolphins we get at the end of the year at home,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: which they'll be packed up and can't play in the cold.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: The only toss up is Buffalo, who we get at
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: home coming off our bye.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: This is unbelievable.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: So I was looking at the week fifteen slate flex flex,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: The flex is in play.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 7: It's in play.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: I think that the one of the primetime games is
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: like Steelers against such it's it's not a good game
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: on paper anymore.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: And if that's like low.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: Key for the AFC East, like, is there a chance
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: that that gets flexed in the primetime.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: Hat and T shirt game?
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I don't.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: Think they're going to clinch the AFCs in Week fifteen, but.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: I mean it's it. These kinds of things are in
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: play when you go to Buffalo and beat Bills. These
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: kinds of emails are not out of the questions. Well speaking, yes,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: they could speaking of flexing.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: Next week's game was originally a four to twenty five
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: game and it got moved to one.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think they're regretting that New Orleans? No, but
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: they're playing better.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know why you think they're playing better.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: They're terrible. I mean, you're just trying to like pump
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: up the Patriots because I'm on board with that. You're
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: trying to help Mike.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: Their games have been competitive, you.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: Know, they play bad teams and they really haven't. Like
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: they lost like forty eight to three to Seattle, Like,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: I don't that was early. It was like, okay, well,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: the last game they played, the other team turned it
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: over five times in a row and they won, like
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: the Giant can. They're terrible. They're a terrible team too,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: and by the way, we'll see them soon.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 6: One question of the panel, though, is could this running
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: game be the fatal flaw that kind of helps forces
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: the Patriots to struggle a little bit on offense going forward,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: Like is is the running game important enough? They've been
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: hit with injuries. We're not sure what's going on over more,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: Trevion still depends. I mean, right now, it seems like
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: you're asking a lot of Drake May to single handedly
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 6: lead this team through the next games of the season.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I was gonna wait till later in the week I
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: would say I understand Evan's point about like the then
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: that excites me. The most, and I would agree with
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: him that's that. Then it excited me the most, like
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: May and Diggs doing all these plays and making like
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: because you're good enough to do it, you're showing you
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: that you're good enough to do it. But it's also
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: the thing that worries me the most because I don't
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: think that you're going to complete all those passes on
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: a regular basis.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: But we've seen them do the other thing against the
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: Carolinas and the Miamis and the Pittsburgh's of the world,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: where they can scheme it up and they can get
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: guys open, you know, and not have to have Drake May.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: So let me get just like, you know, Buffalo, we
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: know is good, but let's just say, like, let's go
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: to like Cleveland. Yeah, Cleveland's got a pretty good defense,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: and I know it's really hard to win that way
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: with just a great defense and you're gonna win thirteen
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: to ten. But that's how they want to try to play. Like.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: I could see Miles Garrett making Drake May consistently have
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: to run to the right sideline all day. I could
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: absolutely see that happening. I also know that John, we
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: can get to the game plan in three weeks. Josh
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: McDaniels and those guys will have a game plan specifically
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: for Miles Garrett. We know that, but I could understand
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: sometimes their guy is just better. You know. That's a
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: hard way to win. That's a hard way to win.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: The way that they won the other night like that
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: was like some high level stuff with May and Diggs.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: And I keep saying both because I don't think just
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: any receiver makes those catches that that digs me made
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: at least three or four catches that I don't think
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: anybody else on the Patriots would have made.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Making the catch and then making that guy on him miss.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the ones on the sideline. Yeah,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: the ones in the in the field of play were
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: on a point right there. And I know Tredevius White,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: I said it before the game, and Tredevious White's clearly
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: on the back nine, but he was in reasonably good
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: position a number of times, and May just made the
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: throw anywhere. What if that throw is a little bit different,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: you know. That's what I you know, for Mike's concerns,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: but my biggest concern is just everybody else is g
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: geting butchered with injuries. Like, are you're just going to
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: be that one team? Sometimes that happens. Yeah, Buffalo didn't
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: really get a lot of injuries last year, Washington either,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: So sometimes you're just the one outlier that you don't
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: get banged up. I worry about the depth a little bit.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: And if they lost some guys.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Yep uh Joel and Otawa.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not just pandering to Mike, but the Ravens seem
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: to be on a downward spiral. Henry is pricey. What
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: would this trade look like?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Derek Henry not trading?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: I just like, yeah, I don't think I don't. I mean,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: I never like to say never because third runner.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: I don't see like the need for them to trade
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: for like a true like stud lead back, like like
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: a Derek Henry.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: Agree, why do you want to waste anything?
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't think that it's that serious, Like I
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: know everybody's out on reminder with the fumbling.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 7: I get it, it can't he's.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: Got to stop forget about it being serious. Even if
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: even forget about the fumbling. If Henry was availab would
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: you go get them?
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: I mean depends on what for Like if you want
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: if like no, No, I mean for what trade compensation like,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, if it's a Day three pick,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: tell me for.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: Like another receiver to go with Diggs. Sure, Like now
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: my offense is like totent. I don't need a running
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: back to do that, you know me.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 7: I think the.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: Running game thing is is a legitimate concern, but I
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: also think that they're still able to script things off
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: the running game. Even though the run game itself has
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: not been overly productive, the play action passing game has.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: The option plays that they're running with Drake have been
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: mostly productive. Uh, they're still able to move the pocket
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: off the run action. So like as long as the
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: run is good enough that it's setting up the pass.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: Because the one thing that the run game isn't doing
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: is it's not going backwards. They're not getting a lot
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: of negative runs. They're just not breaking a lot of
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: runs to really drive up the efficiency. So they're still
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: moving the ball three or four yards at a time,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: which is just enough to and he make the defense.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: Even then, like as it stands right now, if you
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: forget about the fumbling, which is hard to do, I
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: grant it, we have two decent backs, and I think
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: a good, good enough line where we can stay balanced.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: If we're not turning it over, we can play a
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: balanced offense still. Now if you get one injury, another injury,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: we're in trouble.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: But that's my point is with the balance, like, they're
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: still able to be balanced. So just your passing game
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: is just going to be the better part of your offense.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: But as long as you can kick it that way,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: the balance whereas like when you get into real trouble
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: is when the run game is constantly going backwards and
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: now you have to abandon the run altogether. That's when
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: it starts to get it to be a problem.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: That's why said I don't think they need like Derek Henry,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: like you can, you could run the ball. They need
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: to run it a little bit better than they have,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: but it hasn't been to the point where they can't
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: run at all because.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: They can't get any If you're gonna stick with Remondre,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: which they might have to, how this fumbling is is
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: going to affect his running style because he's best when
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: he's breaking tackles.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about contact.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: And I can't see how he's not going to be
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: affected by I can't fumble the ball.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, do you think there's a chance that Reminder
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 6: receives in this year, gets back into form and you
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: have trust in him, and every time he carries the ball,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: it doesn't look like it's rock'm socking robots and anybody
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: trying to tackle him.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: It's just coming in with the haymakers.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: And can he do enough this year then to be
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 6: that back going forward or do you feel like it's
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 6: kind of an I mean like in my mind, I
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: feel like, yeah, we'll get through this year with Remondre,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: but next year RB one is the need to me,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: we need a guy that we can trust, and I
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 6: just I don't know if I can ever regain that
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: trust in Remondre. Even if he makes it through this
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 6: year without eight fumbles again, you know, maybe it's just
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 6: one more.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: I still don't know how he can.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: It's a legitimate long term concern. I don't think they
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: really haven't any choice is right now to get out
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: of it. But in the offseason, like if you want
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: to get you know, your David Montgomery to your Jamier Gibbs,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: a Trevon Henderson, and you go out and get another
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: sort of between the tackles early down back then like
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: you you might be in the market for that.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 6: What do you guys think of him as a running
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 6: back just outside of the fumbles, like, because there have
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 6: been games over the years where like great game by Remandra,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 6: he's tough to bring down, he's got good hands, he's
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 6: a three down back.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: He can kind of do it all.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, you have plenty of games
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: where it's like completely ineffective, did nothing today, you know,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: And I know that's a function of the offense too,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 6: But I just.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: Think he's okay.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: I think he's okay.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: I think he's a good, solid, middle of the road
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: starting running back. But I don't look at him like
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: like Josh Jacobs. I think is better than that, you know,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: those kinds of guys that do a little bit of everything.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: I like Stevenson's versatility. I think he's underrated in the
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: passing game, both as a blocker as a receiver. But
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: you guys are right, I mean, if you can't hold
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: onto the oh, he says it more than anybody.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 6: I mean there's probably maybe five games in his career
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 6: that you can look at and be like he was
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: dominant that those five, But you know it's been he's
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: been here for five years, you know, like it's been
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: a while.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: I just don't think he's a game breaking But I
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: just don't think like as long he's he's good enough
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: that if they have good blocking, then their run game
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: is going to.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: Be I also think he's been hurt over the last
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: couple of years by the lack of an offense in general.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, like we say, they've been easy to defend, terrible.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about the outside down deep.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: So we're going to pack the middle. It's going to
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: be eight in the box and it's hard to run
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: against for anybody.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: Sixteen arms trying and you're one thousand percent right, Like,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: they haven't had a good offense. And I don't care
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: who you are, Derrick Henry, I think would have offensive line. Yeah,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: I just look at when when creases are there and
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: he's had one of those five good games that you're
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: talking about, do you have a look at him and
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: say that was an electric run. I don't think he
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: has that.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe I think game he scored in as a rookie, I.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: Think Devin pointed out Carolina he had like a long
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: run against Carolina and he like got tackled, and as
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: he got tackled, you went. And Rabel actually said the
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: same thing, like we had one more guy to take
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: care of, and I think heaven kind of thought the
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: running back should have been explosive enough to take care
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: of that on his own. Yeah, And I don't.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: Even when he has a good free safety.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: He's a good player, like Demandra Stevenson is a good player.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: I just want to, you know, restate that because it's
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: not like I think he's you know, without talent. He's
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: a good player. I just don't think he's anything more
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: than that even at his best.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: I just think I don't care, like there's a bottom
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: running and this isn't like a shot. I just like
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: there's like five running backs in the league that matter.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: So like, no, he's not in the Saquon Barkley Christian
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: McCaffrey category, but like out of like the rest of
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: the just the guys that are in the league, Like
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: you have one of the.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: Guys and that's why he even goes. But that's why
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't go to the Gibbs Robinson, McCaffrey, like Josh Jacobs,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: Like this is in every down back who's kind of
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: a traditional bat. He'll catch some passes to I think
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: when he gets creases their bigger plays than what Rimandre
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: gets with you know. I you know, we get into
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: all the EPA and all that stuff, but like, I
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: don't think he gets much more than he breaks tackles.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: Like he's hard to tackle when he's leathered up and
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: he's going. But I don't think he like makes these
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: big runs because he just made two guys miss in
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: the open field.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah they got they gotta get, you know, right now,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: I don't see them getting a lot of second level
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: blocks from the offensive line and the tight ends where
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: they're really you know, right now, they're taking care of
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: the bigs. And that's why you don't have any negative runs.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: Is like the defensive line isn't getting into the backfield
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: and making plays in the backfield, but they're not getting
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: up to the linebacker level to really spring the running
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: back on these big runs. And that's how you spring
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: it is when you can get you know, guards and
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: tackles and tight ends and guys up to the second
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: level of the defense and really get you know, hats
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: on those linebackers. So like to me, like when I
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: watch their run game. It's definitely more a product of
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: blocking than it is the guys carrying the football.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: The one little nippick I'd have about garrying the football
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: is like these outside zone runs, like they're just ramming
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: it right and like into the line of scrimmage on
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: some of those. I would like to see a little
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: bit more patients to let the cutback lanes develop a
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: little bit more. Like when you see teams that are
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: really good at outside zone, there's like a dance like
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: rhythm to it where it's like, you know, you kind
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: of paste it out and it strings out and then
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: they cut up the field right up the middle of
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: the field and it's gone. Like Patriots don't have a
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: ton of those types of outside zone runs, but overall,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: like they get like the first two to three yards blocked,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: they just need to get them up into the second
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: and third level more often.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: Nola's in Austin, Texas. What's up, Nola? Nola?
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 15: How do you sorry about that? First and foremost its
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 15: first time caller, But I absolutely loved watching the game. Yes,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 15: it was kind of rough in the first tet, but
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 15: we got our win. I had a few things I
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 15: feel like Carlton Davis is still kind of disappinting as
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 15: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but watching that game,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 15: it felt like he really wasn't much of an impact
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 15: other than letting big plays happen potentially. And then the
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 15: other thing is is now I'm kind of kind of
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 15: worried that this thing's game might be a trap game
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 15: for us. Just wanted to hear it could be.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: It could be funny that your name's Nola.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: I was thinking that was on the list.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Saints could be a trap game.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: But Carlton Davis, he flash, he had a nice pressure
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: that caused it incomplete and you know, did let up
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: a couple of plays.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: But I think he's the number two cornerback.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's sort of where the Yeah,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: maybe my disconnect with it was some people is like
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: he's not supposed to be the Christian Gonzale. It's like
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: Christian Gonzalez is supposed to be Christian Gonzalez. He's supposed
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: to be a starting caliber, number two cornerback.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 7: Now, they paid him a little bit more.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: Than that, but that's because they went into free agency
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: to get him, So you're gonna pay top dollar when
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: you go into the market to get displayed. And I
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: think he's been exactly what they wanted, which is to
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: have a stable, consistent player to play opposite of Gonzo.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like they used the Coleman third down play where
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: they just toss it up to I said to Paul,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: and that's the matchup you want.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: You want your big cornerback on their big receiver.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: They're going to try to just throw it up to him.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: I was really impressed with him.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 6: And there were a number of plays where you just
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 6: it just looked like great defense. It looked like the
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 6: rush was getting there. It looked like everybody was kind
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 6: of locked out.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 7: Very jazz.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: I was jazz. Yeah he is, Uh, Brian's and Lowell
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: he's calling in again. What's up, Brian? Okay, what's up?
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: Oh there?
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: He is all right?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 8: Hey.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: What's you guys thinking about the game on Sunday night? Huh? Sweet?
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Who won?
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Have you been listening for the last two hours?
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: It was a good game.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: So you know how we feel. I know, I.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: Guys really feel I'm pretty hype about it.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: But that went over the bills.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: We actually snapped.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 11: Around fifteen Winter streak, a long winding streak down going
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 11: the Bills.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually did that too, so not just beating them,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: but we snapped the winter streak.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: Yep, they're home winning streak yep, yep. Yeah, on top
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: of it all.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: But by the way, yeah that kicker regardless.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 4: Why do you say his name is man?
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: He's a stud regardless yeap.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was nervous.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: I was so I'm like, oh my god, make this.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: I know I was right with you, right with you.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no gibs and now now gives and gives his injury.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: Now that's theres man.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, yeah, you hate to see that.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: You know, should get if she get Chisholm.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: Now I think you actively running.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: Back yep, because yeah, he can run, be running back.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 7: He's got pretty good contact back.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: He could do the right turn kicks in there, right.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks a lot to call.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: It's my favorite trolling us or I think he just
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: wants to chat, checking in boos, seeing what's going on,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: talking about the game.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: You want to get hot.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: You think there's any chance that that's an avenue for
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Chisholm to be on there, I'm being dead serious. It
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: wasn't ironic at all?
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: Kickoff? Yeah, why not?
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: I'm havingue to get on the game day roster. I
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: mean there's obviously an opening, you know, put him next
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: to Henderson. I think he did a little of that.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: I know we returned punts. Did he get any kicks too?
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 7: He doesn't really have the straight line speed.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: I remember I was thinking about Isaiah Bolden, I mean
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: a long gone now, but you know, he was one
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 6: guy that I know was in the mix with z.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: I also wonder if you know this would be two
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: rookies back there, but do you think about Kyle Williams
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: going back there? Who has practice kickoffs? Yeah, quite a bit.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: And now that those are probably your two fastests.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: Now you're not adding a roster spot, right, I just want.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: And maybe not, But like Kyle Williams already is, like
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: you know, had a smaller role on offense, and this
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: might be another way to get his speed to impact
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: the game in some way shape of.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: He's another one that I noticed on Sunday night there
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: was a little quick uh screen to Douglas and he's
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: out in front blocking someone. It was Taron Johnson. So like, no,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: but I'm just I'm using it as man like the
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: whole buy in thing. Yeah, might try to like downplay
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: that on Monday when he was asked like, so, what
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: does a win like that do for the buy in? Like,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: I think he kind of already felt like he had that, so,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: but I do think there's a lot of evidence that
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: the players are playing at a different level, not so
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: much how well they're playing, but with different levels of
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: intensity and commitment and the finish that that we talk
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: about all the time, that kind of stuff.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: Kylurams parent, Kyl Williams gets open, Yeah, he gets open
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: on the film. It's not finding him right now, and
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that they like secretly have this like one
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yard receiver that like they're just hiding.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: But you know, he ran like probably about ten rounds
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: in this game, and like he was open on a
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: handful of him. It runs good vertical routes, Like I'm
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: just waiting for him to hit one of those go balls,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: like that's coming.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: Be great to see.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Drake's just developed.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, you clearly see Drake has confidence in throwing
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 6: a Hunter Henry and throwing a Stefon Diggs right now
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 6: and the other guys. I think it's a little bit
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: still hit or miss, but I think with I mean
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 6: one of those throws, I mean, I think the two catches.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 6: I think it was the second one. Like it's like
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 6: twenty yards down the field. That's strike he threw where
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: that I mean, just unbelievable. You know, the trust is there,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: I'm going to throw it to him. There's a lot
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: of eyes down there, but he comes up with it.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Diggs.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 6: Can another can Kyle Williams emerge over the course of
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: the season. So going in next year, you feel like
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 6: he's gonna have a bigger role.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: Yeh chosen Pennsylvania. Hey Joe, Hey.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 11: Guys, Hey, thanks for taking my call. Hey Joe, And uh,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 11: first comment before my question, but like just about bot
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 11: like when he when he made that catch and he
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 11: extended out for that first down.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what what a stud play.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: It was a great play. Yep.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 11: How often do we stay Why didn't he just reach out?
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 11: You know it's like grant you, you don't want to
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 11: reach out in traffic, but on those sideline catches like that,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 11: I mean and uh, and like like right around that
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 11: four or five catch mark per game, I think that
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 11: is like a great, a great number for him, especially
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 11: when there's like twenty some completion.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: Yep, he hasn't really been that though. He hasn't talked
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: five in a game since the first game, right, yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 11: I know he only had three, but I think right
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 11: around that, like, you know, I say that fortified mark
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 11: would be great for him, but.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: I think Paul said it earlier.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: It seems like every catch he does make is a
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: is a really meaningful catch.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Right, showing awareness good.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he had those two catches that
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: were talking about, one he reaches out for a first
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: down and then the one on the sideline in the
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: game winning drive. I would just say, thanks, careful on
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: the one he reaches out on because you know, and
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: Evan might be able to speak to this better than me.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: But Collinsworth mentioned at the time Mike and I immediately
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: thought it, did you run a bad route and be
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: sure to the sticks there? I think he's probably an
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: argument to be made on third you got to get
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: the sticks. And then I don't think coaches universally do
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: not like that reaching out thing like it worked, you know,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: like Mike Vrabel was not happy with Hunter Henry two
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: weeks Ago on his touchdown down the sideline, that funky
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: throw from May. He kind of was very casually with
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: the ball down as he's going through the end zone.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't know if there's someone there to
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: do all Dugger on that jack wagon from the Bengals
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: last year that was starting to celebrate as he's going in,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: and you know, Kyle Dugger knocked the ball out. Ball
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: security is important and reaching out, I don't care if
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: you're on the sideline. You never saw a ball just
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: get knocked out of a guy's in Just sit there
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: on the sidelines like that's not They don't like that.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: So every time I see that, I don't like it either.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's worse like doing it to reach it
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: into the goal line in my opinion, because that then
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: you get the fumble touched back thing and like you
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: know last night, Trevor Lawrence trying to do the Drew
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: Brees sneak and egos.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: But that's okay on fourth down because you lose the ball,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: you lose the as long as it doesn't get touchdown
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: or something like that, that's not so okay. But yeah,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: they've covered on the three yard line and was their
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: ball anyway.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's happen again this week, the kid in
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: Arizona Mercado. It's like every I don't understand how these
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: guys still are fumbling the ball but like dropping the
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: ball celebrating before they get into the end zone. I
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: kind of the homes was like kind of close. Last
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: night he ran one in on like an option play.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: I agree, and I looked at it and it was
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: pretty that was you know, he was maybe a step
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: or two into the end zone.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: But can I just say something about the one for Arizona.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you did. You guys see this
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: at all?
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 7: I saw the reaction do it.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: I know that was not good. Yeah, I've seen it
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: a few times. I have not seen sort of the
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: pylon cam down the sideline. I got to tell you,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: watching it over and over again, I'm not excusing it
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: because it just never will I will never understand why
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: that's cool. Why it's cool I scored a touchdown and
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: it's cool if I can drop the ball as I
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: go into the end zone. Like, I don't know why
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: that makes it any cool that you just ran seventy
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: one yards.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 7: It is kind of sweat.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just get in the end zone and
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: then do it right.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 7: I told that Mahomes did and it looked cool.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: So I've seen this play a number of times and
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that he didn't break the play in
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: the goal line before.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: He dropped it. Close. Yeah, it was close.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: I think that they're really being picky with them, like
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: to try to like prove a point, Like he reaches
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: out like this and for all the world, it looks
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: to me like that's breaking the plane of the goal line.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Then he lets it go. It looks like and I
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: think that they're deeming this as losing control of the ball,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: and I don't think he lost control of the ball
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: until he actually crossed the goal line. Now, if someone
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: has a video that I haven't seen, then I'm wrong.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: I just the ones that I have seen. It looks
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: to me like he broke the plane.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey, Aldred, Yeah he caused that
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: three car accident.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 11: Well, I ain't nobody in front of me, okay, So yeah,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 11: hey sir, take your victory lap. Oh buy me drink
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 11: at the bar, and they talking about your boy Drake,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 11: So take your victory lab, buddy. He finally told me
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 11: over this time. You know, so I'm a Drake man,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 11: a Drake may fan.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: Shitt the ind.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: We go.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about him, even though North Carolina won't nice
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: nice Freddy.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 11: About to blow up defut and AJ definitely won't.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: Now do you think something happened to.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: Him and Hurts got into it on the sideline? I
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: mean hot.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: Navy yea, there is that teams.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not all four ones are built the same.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: Thanks, I mean they were.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: They were up seventeen to three and coasting in that
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: game going into the fourth quarter and they blew it.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's tough to stay up on top.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: And their offense like completely just went in the tank.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: Like they looked like, you know, they had the wheel
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: route to Barkley and all of a sudden they look
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: like they're the Eagles offense last year and they're not
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: running the ball as well as they were last year.
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  Speaker 7: The offensive line is of good to see. Yeah, there's
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 7: still four and one.
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  Speaker 2: Like, how about my Jaguars? These are like twenty eleven
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: Patriots problems that game last night.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: With the Jaguars, Like Trevor Lawrence is a roller coaster,
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  Speaker 3: like watching him play is honestly, and like, so they
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  Speaker 3: have him running this like this can system right where
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  Speaker 3: he's got the two plays called and he's got to
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  Speaker 3: pick the right play, and every single time the two
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  Speaker 3: seconds through one second, the play clock is winding down
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  Speaker 3: and he's like yelling and barking and doing all. It's like,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: maybe just don't do it like you ever, Like, is
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: it really that big of an advantage to change the play?
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: Is it really like is that really working that much
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  Speaker 3: that every single time you snap the ball there's one
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: second left on the play clock?
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  Speaker 2: Is it taking him a while the process which play
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  Speaker 2: to call? Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 3: Like? Well, yeah, and I you know, they're talking about
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: a little they're talking about it a little bit on
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: the broadcast, and like they were saying that like he's
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: got to get out of the huddle faster so that
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: he can get to the line of scrimmage and look
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: at the defense and then make the adjustment. I guess
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: like they have the numbers that like seventy five percent
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: of the time he switches the play at the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: Like and not it's called the second place and it's
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: not just like there's two under center plays and we're
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: just gonna run the second run plays of the first.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: They're going from like shotgun to under center or under
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: center to shotguns, so like the whole formation is changing
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: and then they're getting they there's the lay games.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: Like can system.
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  Speaker 7: Well a lot, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean a lot of coaches run it like in that tree.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: Uh you know, it's really like Brady used to do
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: it all the time, like the Patriots do it too.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 7: It's not that hard, Like it's.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: Just usually usually it's a it's a like it could
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: be anything. It could be two run plays to pass plays.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: But it's just like, if we get this front, we're
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: gonna run this run play. If we get that front,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: we're gonna run that run play. It's just it's not
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: that hard.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: One more call Troy's in Virginia Beach. What's up, Troy?
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  Speaker 2: Hey? It was doing on guys.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Hey now you talk?
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we can hear you.
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  Speaker 15: Okay, okay. I would like to take it back to
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 15: week three. I had an amazing time going up to
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 15: the boss and thanks for the sis of getting the train.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 15: Had an amazing job.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: That was my first time ever seeing a fox.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 15: But very best. But I know the first few callers
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 15: or the two callers pretty much touched on it.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 8: I was wondering, since we.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 15: Have a dog in our camp, when was Kylee Walees
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 15: in a mix or you think.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 8: He'll see a good idea to put him in the mix,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 8: you know, just for just in case purposes and something.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 15: Happened two days.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 10: You don't want that to happen.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, well you mean in the mix of catching footballs.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think a lot of people
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 4: would like to see him get more involved, including him,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: but right now it's just not you know, the ball's
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 4: not finding him yet.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: I think his time will come.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 4: But we talked about earlier Troy about getting him in
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: the mix on kickoffs kickoff return. Thanks and thanks for
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 4: the call, and you know, I could see that might
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: be something to get him in the game.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like it's sim and I want
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: to have woman to let but like with him and Henderson,
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: I just think people are being a little bit uh
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: not being patient enough exactly, Like it's this is the
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: fifth week of the season. Their rookies, like if you
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: just give it some time, like let let them develop.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: I mean it's a new offense for everyone, not just I.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: Would also say if the offense wasn't performing well, and
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: I think for the most part, say for the first
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: game of the year, the offense has been okay, like
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: what do you you know?
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: Right? But everybody's always green.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: You always want to see the thing that it's a
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: shiny new toy and and I get it. But like
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: they're they're on these developmental plans, but he has to.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: Be that you'd like to see maybe stretch the field
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: If they can rush the rookie, if they could, you know,
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: integrate him into the offense, that would be all right,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: that would be cool.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: We're going to integrate into saying goodbye. But we were back.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow catch twenty two tomorrow at ten, Tomorrow at ten.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 4: How's Barth doing? Is he okay? Like he's doing his
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 4: soilst pants during the game at any.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: Point he's watching it at home. He doesn't travel, so
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 3: he's watching it at home.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: Does his mother yell at him to keep it shot?
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: No, No, that wasn't a shot. I was just saying
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 3: I made me low and watching the game. He just
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 3: he said that this is the first time in a
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: while that his inner fan kind of came out a
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: little bit watching the Patriots, and I kind of felt
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 3: the same way.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 7: I felt something about this team for the first time.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 4: I think, if the Patriots get to the super Bowl
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 4: this year, we should all shape chip in and get
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: Barth a lady friend.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 7: You know we're going to say to get to them.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 7: We're got to get him there.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that the station would send him down, right,
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: are you well? They would. They would have to. He's
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: their football guy, and he go to the super Bowl.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: You don't send your.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: Football I mean, Paul's shows go to the super Bowl.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 3: So I'd assume that they could find it.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. We should get up, We should get
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: up some company.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: The morning show is not going. Friend's quitting, that's what
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: he said.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: He can sleep on the floor in my hotel room.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 7: We'll get my.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Cot there you go. Yeah all right, yeah, all right.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 7: Use a different bathroom though.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: We will see it tomorrow.
• 2:01:18
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