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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's time for Checking Buck's weekly visit with former NFL
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- 0:16Speaker 1: and I ninety near the stadiums Now with Gene Sterotor,
- 0:20Speaker 1: here's Checking Buck.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Well.
- 0:24Speaker 3: We are broadcasting live from Radio Row here at San
- 0:28Speaker 3: Francisco as we are days away from Super Bowl sixty.
- 0:31Speaker 3: A lot of radio stations all over the place. I mean,
- 0:35Speaker 3: this place is really filled up, and they got banners.
- 0:38Speaker 3: They are blocking my view of Radio Row as I
- 0:41Speaker 3: had it yesterday. There is one big difference between us
- 0:47Speaker 3: and the rest of these radio stations that have come here.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Their team's not in the Super Bowl. Oh man, it
- 0:54Speaker 3: must stink to follow such losers. But our team will
- 0:59Speaker 3: be taking on the New England Patriots on Sunday, Super
- 1:02Speaker 3: Bowl sixty, And in a moment we're gonna chat with
- 1:04Speaker 3: Geene stare Tour about the excitement of that as we
- 1:09Speaker 3: get ready for the big event. From an officials point
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- 1:30Speaker 3: Joining us now on the program is CBS rules analysts
- 1:35Speaker 3: and the greatest NFL official ever, Jeene Sterotur. Happy super Bowl.
- 1:40Speaker 4: Week, Gene, Happy super Bowl Week, Fellas. I'm sure it's
- 1:44Speaker 4: great there. I'm looking forward to getting there soon.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Yeah. When do you get here Friday? Did you tell us?
- 1:50Speaker 4: Yes? I do land Friday, and I hope to see.
- 1:53Speaker 4: If not, maybe we'll get a quick selfie in the
- 1:56Speaker 4: airport or something.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Yeah, at least like to Yeah, at least like to
- 1:59Speaker 3: you know, to face shake your hand and say hello.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Even if it doesn't time out that you can pop
- 2:05Speaker 3: on the.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Air with us live.
- 2:06Speaker 3: I look forward to that.
- 2:08Speaker 2: All right.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Well, I mean we don't have a little isolated plays
- 2:12Speaker 3: to break down, but I feel like we got a
- 2:14Speaker 3: lot of things that we can discuss about this upcoming
- 2:17Speaker 3: game from an officials perspective. And let's go ahead and
- 2:21Speaker 3: start with the crew itself. Tell us about Sean Smith
- 2:25Speaker 3: and his crew are they gonna screw this thing up
- 2:28Speaker 3: on Sunday.
- 2:30Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. Sean is a really really
- 2:32Speaker 4: good referee and has worked a lot of postseason stuff,
- 2:37Speaker 4: and I know, I know we'll have the crew ready,
- 2:40Speaker 4: ready to work. So it's not a normal week. You
- 2:44Speaker 4: don't pretend it's a normal week, especially during the weekdays
- 2:47Speaker 4: here leading up to it. But the more the crew
- 2:51Speaker 4: will get together here and start into their pregame or
- 2:54Speaker 4: pre week preparation, they'll be ready to go. Just get
- 2:58Speaker 4: the big ones this week.
- 2:59Speaker 3: What goes into that tell us about pregame preparation for
- 3:02Speaker 3: a Super Bowl? What do you mean by that from
- 3:04Speaker 3: an official standpoint.
- 3:06Speaker 4: Well, I mean when you do get the phone call,
- 3:08Speaker 4: it is a memorable call, right, I mean, it's one
- 3:10Speaker 4: of those times that you forever remember when you get
- 3:13Speaker 4: your Super Bowl call. And then it depends on how
- 3:16Speaker 4: many family members you have. In my case, with all
- 3:19Speaker 4: the Italian family in mind, it was the shock of
- 3:21Speaker 4: getting tickets for twenty family members, which is very, very
- 3:25Speaker 4: you know, depressing, but in all honesty, when you do
- 3:30Speaker 4: get there, and they'll get in there midweek, you really
- 3:33Speaker 4: dive into it and you do that through the most
- 3:35Speaker 4: of the postseason. You should be doing it through the
- 3:37Speaker 4: entire season and postseason specific. But it is team tendencies.
- 3:41Speaker 4: It is team matchups. You know, the flavor of those teams,
- 3:45Speaker 4: the play. You know, you're going through multiple playlists or
- 3:49Speaker 4: games and looking for trends, tendencies, and then you go
- 3:52Speaker 4: into the individual matchups and discussed as individual massups with
- 3:57Speaker 4: each of the crew members that will be focused merrily
- 4:00Speaker 4: in those areas. So there's a lot, there's a lot
- 4:03Speaker 4: to that and I think there, you know, that's where
- 4:05Speaker 4: the comfort level uh starts to set in. You're starting
- 4:08Speaker 4: to see those plays, discuss those matchups, and then when
- 4:11Speaker 4: you get out there Sunday, hopefully those same and it's
- 4:16Speaker 4: those same situations show themselves live, knowing that you had
- 4:20Speaker 4: spoken through them and prep for those and then there's
- 4:22Speaker 4: a level of comfort and confidence that goes with that. So, uh,
- 4:26Speaker 4: it's a great week. It's a great week for the families,
- 4:29Speaker 4: it's a great week for the cruise and and there's
- 4:31Speaker 4: a ton of pressure and you understand that you embrace it.
- 4:34Speaker 5: Geene, We've talked to you at length about your feelings
- 4:38Speaker 5: and your philosophy of you know, uh, getting the whales
- 4:41Speaker 5: sketching the whales and not the minnows. Is when you
- 4:44Speaker 5: get to the biggest game of them all, do you
- 4:47Speaker 5: feel like your counter part or your your your your
- 4:50Speaker 5: peers that they all have kind of a little bit
- 4:53Speaker 5: of that as well, that they're not wanting to insert
- 4:55Speaker 5: themselves in the game unless they need to.
- 5:00Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you do, Bucky. I mean, you definitely
- 5:03Speaker 4: understand the moment. I mean, I know another one of
- 5:06Speaker 4: those times in life that it froze that it is
- 5:09Speaker 4: for all the viewers and everybody. It's right before that
- 5:13Speaker 4: kickoff takes place and you see the sixty seventy thousand
- 5:17Speaker 4: flash bulbs go off and you're kicking off the Super Bowl,
- 5:19Speaker 4: and I think your level of awareness, just your being
- 5:23Speaker 4: in that moment, it elevates again. And that's just a
- 5:27Speaker 4: human condition. I think it does for everyone that participates
- 5:30Speaker 4: in games of this magnitude. And I think that's kind
- 5:33Speaker 4: of what you trust is it's going to elevate me.
- 5:36Speaker 4: The fouls will jump out at you, just relaxed free
- 5:39Speaker 4: through them. Players are going to play right to the edge.
- 5:42Speaker 4: They have to. They're playing for it all, and you
- 5:45Speaker 4: understand that, So you want to elevate yourself to just
- 5:48Speaker 4: digest this stuff. The fouls will jump out, they'll show
- 5:51Speaker 4: themselves whenever they occur, and you just don't go seeking things.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Gene Stare Torres when a CBS rules analysts and former official,
- 6:01Speaker 3: how many Super Bowls?
- 6:03Speaker 4: I was altering at the Super Bowl forty four when
- 6:06Speaker 4: the Saints beat the Colts, and then I referred was
- 6:09Speaker 4: in white hat in Super Bowl fifty two when the
- 6:12Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles and the Philly Special defeated the Patriots in Minnesota.
- 6:18Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, no matter, I mean it
- 6:21Speaker 3: really is, you don't really win. You can't win as
- 6:23Speaker 3: an NFL official, I don't remember one Super Bowl where
- 6:27Speaker 3: at the end of it they're like, you know who
- 6:28Speaker 3: really had the best game? It was that Jeene Sterotor. Yeah,
- 6:32Speaker 3: and Jean's territor really did shine. I mean he was
- 6:36Speaker 3: the real MVP, didn't blow a single call. But you
- 6:39Speaker 3: do remember the ones, especially in Seattle, where the officials
- 6:43Speaker 3: played a role in the game. I mean, you're probably
- 6:48Speaker 3: friends with Bill Levy. That's the famous one here in Seattle.
- 6:52Speaker 3: I mean, Seahawk fans still to this day just don't
- 6:54Speaker 3: trust the officials when they get ready to play in
- 6:57Speaker 3: a Super Bowl because of Bill Levy. Does he still
- 7:00Speaker 3: wear that to this day? Does he does it? I mean,
- 7:03Speaker 3: how much did it affect him that he got so
- 7:06Speaker 3: harshly criticized after that game was played.
- 7:10Speaker 4: You know, Beilieve has passed in the last year and
- 7:14Speaker 4: a half or so and was a fantastic mentor to me.
- 7:19Speaker 4: It also is somebody that that I think, you know
- 7:22Speaker 4: as a young referee, as a young official, you always
- 7:25Speaker 4: looked up to those those experienced officials when you got
- 7:29Speaker 4: in the NFL didn't always have to be a referee.
- 7:32Speaker 4: In my case, I kind of gravitated to them, and
- 7:35Speaker 4: not just to how good I thought they weren't managing
- 7:38Speaker 4: the games, the production of the games, the intensity, and
- 7:40Speaker 4: you're focused and trying to learn as much as you can,
- 7:44Speaker 4: But then you watch them go through pressurized situations where
- 7:49Speaker 4: fraction of a reaction, a play that happens in a
- 7:52Speaker 4: second or two can can basically define a good portion.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Unfortunately in some cases, you know you're into career, so
- 8:01Speaker 4: you do embrace. Again, when I talk about the pressure
- 8:05Speaker 4: of it and the magnitude of these things, it kind
- 8:08Speaker 4: of goes to that, right And I know that when
- 8:11Speaker 4: Bill came around that following season to the training camps. Naturally,
- 8:17Speaker 4: there were questions that were asking him, and you know,
- 8:20Speaker 4: I thought he was just a stand up individual. It
- 8:22Speaker 4: was a close play, it was not an easy play
- 8:25Speaker 4: to work on, a quick turnover or those situations. It's
- 8:28Speaker 4: madness out there in real time when the field flips
- 8:31Speaker 4: like that. But I think it's again it's another great
- 8:34Speaker 4: lesson in life. You can work three hours of perfect
- 8:39Speaker 4: football and as you said, would not be recognized whatsoever,
- 8:44Speaker 4: and then as fate would have it, you can have
- 8:46Speaker 4: a reaction that happens within seconds that lives maybe beyond
- 8:50Speaker 4: your years. That's the pressure of this business. That's kind
- 8:53Speaker 4: of why you do it in some ways. So he
- 8:57Speaker 4: just was a great mentor and a great man as well.
- 9:00Speaker 2: I love the way you put that.
- 9:01Speaker 5: That's why you do it, is the pressure, because then
- 9:05Speaker 5: you feel good when you do well under the pressure.
- 9:07Speaker 3: We even have nobody acknowledges that, Yeah, you're.
- 9:10Speaker 5: Definitely not going to get a trophy at the end. Yeah,
- 9:12Speaker 5: you just kind of hope that is the.
- 9:14Speaker 4: Best official buy. You know that that's kind of the
- 9:17Speaker 4: that's kind of the beauty of the profession, to be
- 9:19Speaker 4: perfectly honest. A lot too deep this morning, but it
- 9:23Speaker 4: is that that ever wanting to be putting yourself into
- 9:28Speaker 4: an extremely uncomfortable situation, and truly the goal was to
- 9:33Speaker 4: manage that situation and then not be recognized. And as
- 9:38Speaker 4: we move through this life and this, you know, everybody
- 9:40Speaker 4: wants to be click baited and seen on social spaces
- 9:44Speaker 4: and things. I lived through the evolution of that as
- 9:46Speaker 4: an official, but then the philosophy of putting yourself in
- 9:50Speaker 4: that situation to not be recognized, it was like the
- 9:53Speaker 4: ultimate goal. Those are the labels that officials kind of
- 9:58Speaker 4: truly do wear, right. I mean that it is kind
- 10:00Speaker 4: of what this is, and it's a deeper moment and
- 10:03Speaker 4: it should be because it is that. Uh. And then
- 10:06Speaker 4: you let the you let the uh, the entertainers entertain, right,
- 10:10Speaker 4: but you just keep the thing on the track and
- 10:13Speaker 4: let the game evolve. And guess what if you have
- 10:15Speaker 4: to interject yourself, uh, then you do because that's what's
- 10:19Speaker 4: right for the game. So it does become a real
- 10:21Speaker 4: big thing. Those are the conversations that I know I'll
- 10:25Speaker 4: be having with the officials prepping into this week and
- 10:28Speaker 4: uh and just in life, because it's kind of what
- 10:30Speaker 4: this is and you've got to embrace it and take
- 10:32Speaker 4: a head on. You know, you never hear the.
- 10:35Speaker 3: Tom tom Bray step aside, Bill Belicher step aside. It's
- 10:38Speaker 3: time to rule the envy. Most valuable official, come on
- 10:42Speaker 3: up here, let's interview you give.
- 10:46Speaker 2: That's true.
- 10:48Speaker 5: I mean I imagine many big moment for anyone in
- 10:51Speaker 5: any walk of life. There's some bigger moments and not
- 10:54Speaker 5: so big and so nerves come along with that. You've
- 10:57Speaker 5: discussed that a little bit. Was there ever a time
- 11:00Speaker 5: that you were especially nervous, whether it's walking out in
- 11:03Speaker 5: the tunnel or the crunch time of the game when
- 11:07Speaker 5: it's coming down to the wire. Was there ever a
- 11:09Speaker 5: time that you can remember and what was that situation?
- 11:11Speaker 4: Like? One thousand percent and perfectly honest, I had close
- 11:17Speaker 4: to anxiety panic attack going through the simulation and then
- 11:23Speaker 4: the coin toss itself. When you live in an officials world,
- 11:27Speaker 4: it's a very unscripted life. I speak at dinners and
- 11:30Speaker 4: don't write anything on paper. I want to feel the room.
- 11:32Speaker 4: You want to react to the situation. That's what you're
- 11:35Speaker 4: kind of your DNA strand kind of put me in
- 11:37Speaker 4: at least. But then I had this scripted Super Bowl
- 11:41Speaker 4: presentation to do in front of one hundred and fifty
- 11:44Speaker 4: million people. In my case, I had a gentleman who
- 11:49Speaker 4: was a World War One veteran who was the honorary captain.
- 11:53Speaker 4: I think I mispronounced his name five times. I believe
- 11:56Speaker 4: it was Willie Williams. I think I called him Woodrow Wilson,
- 12:01Speaker 4: used three different names to announce him. Right before Super
- 12:04Speaker 4: Bowl fifty two's coin toss, I forgot to ask the
- 12:07Speaker 4: Eagles initially what they wanted to choose, heads or tails
- 12:11Speaker 4: and handed the coin to the honorary captain. Who's thank
- 12:14Speaker 4: gosh for Perry Paganelli, my back judge. He stepped in
- 12:17Speaker 4: and went, whoa hold on a minute, we need to
- 12:19Speaker 4: ask the Eagles heads or tails before we go through
- 12:22Speaker 4: the rest of this, so that moment will forever live
- 12:25Speaker 4: with me and I can see myself like yesterday showering
- 12:28Speaker 4: going Willie Williams, Willy Williams, not Woodrow Wilson. You know,
- 12:32Speaker 4: all those things, and then it hits you, you know.
- 12:34Speaker 4: So once we got through with the coin toss, it
- 12:37Speaker 4: was all downhill from there.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Is a tough part, that's awesome, Yes, yes, you.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Know, there is a lot of talk about Bill Belichick
- 12:47Speaker 3: not making the Hall of Fame and Robert Kraft, and
- 12:50Speaker 3: I won't ask you to weigh in on that, but
- 12:52Speaker 3: there's only one NFL official in the Hall of Fame.
- 12:55Speaker 3: Do you feel like, I mean, I'm not gonna put
- 12:58Speaker 3: you in the uncomfortable position talk about yourself, but do
- 13:01Speaker 3: you feel like since the officials are such a big
- 13:04Speaker 3: part of the game that they, you guys, should be
- 13:06Speaker 3: more represented in the NFL Hall of Fame.
- 13:11Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for the question. Yes I do, uh, And
- 13:14Speaker 4: I think if you look at the other major league
- 13:16Speaker 4: sports baseball and basketball, they do have their percentage of
- 13:20Speaker 4: those individuals male and female that were great contributors to
- 13:24Speaker 4: this game through their life's journey through that portion of time.
- 13:29Speaker 4: And yes, I do really firmly believe now, as you mentioned, Art,
- 13:33Speaker 4: the late Art McNally, who was the first supervisor to
- 13:38Speaker 4: put together the NFL when the Super Bowl was formed, Uh,
- 13:41Speaker 4: and then build that staff and go through that entire process,
- 13:45Speaker 4: is the only official that is recognized right now in
- 13:49Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. But you know what, in our house,
- 13:52Speaker 4: there's a wall of Fame of officials that you know,
- 13:55Speaker 4: there's a gentleman Jim Tunney, who just passed the first
- 13:58Speaker 4: referee really to have on TV and to be that bridge.
- 14:02Speaker 4: And then you had the great Terry Mark Bright, who
- 14:05Speaker 4: was an amazing referee red cash and in his imfamous
- 14:08Speaker 4: first down signals and announcements. But yeah, we have our
- 14:13Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. I really wish that the National Football
- 14:17Speaker 4: League would embrace that it's the thirty thirteen in this
- 14:21Speaker 4: day and age, and it should be treated as such
- 14:23Speaker 4: a more humble opinion. And these individuals, male and female,
- 14:28Speaker 4: have done an awful lot for this game in multiple ways.
- 14:32Speaker 4: And I think if you did again, you talked about
- 14:34Speaker 4: coach Bilichick. Look, I was really fortunate to be on
- 14:38Speaker 4: the field during their tenure and their reign, right, so
- 14:43Speaker 4: I was in great football games and their football people
- 14:47Speaker 4: and the officials are too in that real integral sense,
- 14:51Speaker 4: you know. That was the respect factor that you wanted,
- 14:54Speaker 4: was to be recognized and appreciated by the players, the coaches,
- 14:57Speaker 4: and I think it would be fitting that that then
- 15:00Speaker 4: would culminate at some point when there was a small
- 15:03Speaker 4: section in Canton, very small percentage, but understandably so.
- 15:09Speaker 5: Gene, I mean, everybody being human, I'm sure that you
- 15:14Speaker 5: guys don't want to take any preconceived notions or previous
- 15:18Speaker 5: interactions with a coach, and you'd be that weighs into
- 15:22Speaker 5: how you're going to go about a game. But I
- 15:24Speaker 5: am just kind of curious if you've heard from where,
- 15:27Speaker 5: if your what your opinion would be based on just
- 15:30Speaker 5: the two years that we've got to watch the Seahawks
- 15:32Speaker 5: head coach Mike McDonald interact with referees. Is it is
- 15:37Speaker 5: it positive? Is there would do you remember times where
- 15:40Speaker 5: it was like, oh, like calling this guy's game again,
- 15:42Speaker 5: and he's always on me about stuff and it makes
- 15:44Speaker 5: me kind.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Of want to throw more flags on him.
- 15:48Speaker 4: Never want of the crowd wore flags. And I think
- 15:50Speaker 4: my basketball background and having those eighty hoop games every
- 15:54Speaker 4: year and coaches that were way more animated right in
- 15:57Speaker 4: the college basketball intimate space of those arena has allowed
- 16:01Speaker 4: me to become somewhat of a psychologist for all of them.
- 16:04Speaker 4: So what I really tried to do? And yes, like
- 16:06Speaker 4: quite honestly, there were definitely those Knights driving to a
- 16:09Speaker 4: game or arriving in the city thinking I've got two
- 16:12Speaker 4: hours of this tonight. You know, I've got to try
- 16:14Speaker 4: to manage some of this too. But I think it's
- 16:17Speaker 4: very wise to understand the makeup. Some coaches like to
- 16:21Speaker 4: be talked to. Some coaches don't want to be bothered.
- 16:24Speaker 4: Some coaches want to be informed on some of the detail.
- 16:28Speaker 4: Some don't want to be bothered whatsoever with that right,
- 16:31Speaker 4: But I think you do do those profiles. You want
- 16:34Speaker 4: to make that coach as comfortable as possible with that
- 16:37Speaker 4: percentage of the game where you're going to be directly
- 16:39Speaker 4: involved with him. So I do. I did do that,
- 16:42Speaker 4: and I think it's wise to do. And a coach
- 16:44Speaker 4: McDonald's team's like a business guy. He looks like he
- 16:48Speaker 4: wants the information when it's pertinent to him, give him,
- 16:52Speaker 4: you know, give him the result, right or give him
- 16:54Speaker 4: the options. And I think that's how you navigate it, right.
- 16:57Speaker 4: You don't want to go over to a coach and say, hey,
- 16:59Speaker 4: we have fifteen yard following the defense in a five
- 17:02Speaker 4: year following the offense. If you do this, then this
- 17:05Speaker 4: you go to them and say, coach, you want second
- 17:07Speaker 4: to two or first a five, right of things of
- 17:09Speaker 4: that nature. You get to them, you get out. And
- 17:12Speaker 4: I also think by watching coach and I haven't didn't
- 17:15Speaker 4: have the pleasure to have him when he was a
- 17:17Speaker 4: head coach in the league. If there's issues, but you
- 17:21Speaker 4: address those right. You want to let the coach know.
- 17:24Speaker 4: There's that little window during a game where you may
- 17:26Speaker 4: look at that coach during a TV timeout and say, listen,
- 17:29Speaker 4: twenty seven is close to the edge here. I don't
- 17:32Speaker 4: want to, you know, we don't want to interject ourselves.
- 17:34Speaker 4: I want to give you my information from what I'm
- 17:36Speaker 4: feeling out there. I'm passing it on to you, you know,
- 17:39Speaker 4: tell them to just tone it to the little one
- 17:41Speaker 4: click lower and we're good to go. Right. That's where
- 17:44Speaker 4: I think you start now becoming that person that's managing
- 17:47Speaker 4: this not to help teams information. It's processing, it's it's
- 17:51Speaker 4: getting me what I need to do to do my
- 17:53Speaker 4: best and disseminating it back. And I think that's where
- 17:56Speaker 4: you go. And coach seems like very very engaged in
- 18:00Speaker 4: that regard, and as most are.
- 18:02Speaker 3: So are you gonna hang out with this weekend?
- 18:04Speaker 4: Then I'm a rep I'm going to go right to
- 18:07Speaker 4: my hotel room and pull the blinds, turn the heater
- 18:09Speaker 4: up to eighty three, and enjoy some warm weather because
- 18:13Speaker 4: we're still like twenty five inches underground here. In snow,
- 18:16Speaker 4: so I'm not really sure yet. You know, we've got
- 18:20Speaker 4: some things to do. I'm gonna be with Kevin, Harlan,
- 18:22Speaker 4: Kurt Warner for some portion of this week and then
- 18:25Speaker 4: naturally for the game. So it's always great together with
- 18:28Speaker 4: the Westwood One family and spend some time with them,
- 18:32Speaker 4: and then quite honestly, you know, it's just to get
- 18:35Speaker 4: out a little bit and just feel it. There's nothing
- 18:37Speaker 4: like it. You guys know that the buzz that I'm
- 18:39Speaker 4: sure is already there on a Tuesday, it just grows
- 18:43Speaker 4: every single day, and then we get to the weekend
- 18:46Speaker 4: in the beginning of a Friday, Saturday prep and it
- 18:48Speaker 4: just builds to a place. It's a special thing, and
- 18:53Speaker 4: so I'm just looking forward to hopefully another memorable weekend.
- 18:56Speaker 4: All right.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Well, you'll be on our radio station again on Sunday,
- 19:00Speaker 3: so we're covering the game from Westwood One, So we
- 19:03Speaker 3: look forward to that. Thank you, Jane. Hopefully we get
- 19:06Speaker 3: to see you on Friday. If not, we'll do it
- 19:10Speaker 3: another time.
- 19:11Speaker 4: And you got its of have a great week, all right.
- 19:14Speaker 3: Jeane Sterratur, CBS rules analyst joins us every week throughout
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- 20:02Speaker 5: Reese's port in your ears.
- 20:04Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much, but probably a little cool whip on
- 20:07Speaker 3: top as well.
- 20:09Speaker 2: Definite sounds wonderful, all right?
- 20:11Speaker 3: Coming up next on the program, Eric Saubert's gonna join us.
- 20:15Speaker 3: Turns out he's got a big game this Sunday, Sports
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- 20:23Speaker 3: ninety three point three kJ R FM. Here's somebody that
- 20:27Speaker 3: actually has more at stake than even you this weekend, Bucky, Yes, doubtful.
- 20:33Speaker 3: It's a guy that's actually participating in the Super Bowl.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Not doubtful for d Seattle Sea hosts tied end. Eric
- 20:41Speaker 3: Saubert joins us here on Chucking Buck. Good morning, Eric,
- 20:46Speaker 3: how's it going in the morning. How are you doing?
- 20:49Speaker 3: How are you feeling? You're you're a super Bowl week,
- 20:51Speaker 3: You're a few days away from the super Bowl? I mean,
- 20:53Speaker 3: has that soaked in at all?
- 20:56Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 20:57Speaker 6: The welcome event was pretty surreal today, just like the
- 21:01Speaker 6: sheer size of you know, what's.
- 21:03Speaker 4: Going on here kind of hit me. I was wondering
- 21:05Speaker 4: when it was.
- 21:06Speaker 6: Gonna hit me, But yeah, it's it's awesome.
- 21:09Speaker 2: How is this team different, man?
- 21:11Speaker 5: I mean it feels different from the outside, but obviously
- 21:13Speaker 5: not being in that locker room, you know, you can't
- 21:16Speaker 5: really tell you've been around. I mean you've you've been
- 21:19Speaker 5: in multiple different organizations. What is it that makes this
- 21:22Speaker 5: team special and has gotten you guys at this point?
- 21:27Speaker 6: I mean, obviously we have a great roster of players,
- 21:31Speaker 6: really talented individuals, but I think one of our biggest
- 21:36Speaker 6: edges is how close we are in the locker room
- 21:39Speaker 6: outside outside the the building. You know, guys you I'll
- 21:44Speaker 6: hang out with each other constantly talking to each other,
- 21:46Speaker 6: just like a group of best friends that are also
- 21:51Speaker 6: really good athletes. So I think it's kind of an
- 21:55Speaker 6: edge when you care about the guys you're playing for.
- 21:58Speaker 3: I think, how much has a J. Barner's trash talk
- 22:03Speaker 3: help this team win this year? What kind of impact
- 22:05Speaker 3: has that had on your success this season?
- 22:11Speaker 6: Man Aj is just mentality overall, is uh for the
- 22:16Speaker 6: offense especially He's a tone setter and uh, like I
- 22:22Speaker 6: think a voice in the huddle.
- 22:24Speaker 4: Uh.
- 22:24Speaker 6: Sometimes you know, we got a lot of guys that
- 22:26Speaker 6: are like cool, calm under under pressure, like not not
- 22:30Speaker 6: as vocal as he is, and then Aj will just
- 22:33Speaker 6: pop in the huddle and and you know get us
- 22:36Speaker 6: fired up for the drive. It's it's a nice thing
- 22:39Speaker 6: to have and you need a guy like that on
- 22:41Speaker 6: your team that is a tone setter. And uh, you know,
- 22:45Speaker 6: when I see a J setting the edge so you know,
- 22:49Speaker 6: violently and aggressively, it's inspiring to me, uh to to
- 22:54Speaker 6: you know, play at the same level. So uh, shout
- 22:57Speaker 6: out to him for you know, taking on that role.
- 23:00Speaker 6: Well that's just that's just.
- 23:00Speaker 4: Really who he is.
- 23:03Speaker 6: He's a tone cetter on our offense, and uh, he's
- 23:06Speaker 6: a he's a great player man.
- 23:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard he's he's got quite the game. Trash
- 23:11Speaker 3: talk game as well. They talk about that quite a bit.
- 23:14Speaker 3: But I know you like him. It's clearly you respect him.
- 23:18Speaker 3: I love him as a teammate in that tight end room.
- 23:21Speaker 3: But have you ever just tap McDonald on the shoulder
- 23:24Speaker 3: and said, hey, I can run that barnyard play, give
- 23:27Speaker 3: me a give me a quarterback sneak. Have you seen
- 23:30Speaker 3: the guns that I've got, Let me get a shot
- 23:32Speaker 3: at that.
- 23:35Speaker 4: No, he does a great job.
- 23:39Speaker 6: I worked it just in case, you know, something would
- 23:42Speaker 6: happened to him. Oh, but but he does a great
- 23:47Speaker 6: job with it. And uh, you know, he's just such
- 23:50Speaker 6: a huge, strong individual man, Like, uh, that's his play.
- 23:58Speaker 6: Regarding the trash talks. Sometimes it's like it's kind of funny.
- 24:01Speaker 6: In my past, I've been like, you know, I try
- 24:05Speaker 6: to love up the defensive ends the edge.
- 24:06Speaker 4: Of guys a little bit, you know.
- 24:10Speaker 6: So there, you know, because those are some of the
- 24:13Speaker 6: best athletes in the world, you know, and my job
- 24:15Speaker 6: is to take care of them.
- 24:17Speaker 4: It has no.
- 24:18Speaker 6: Regard for that, So I just kind of embraced it.
- 24:21Speaker 4: And like it is what it is.
- 24:25Speaker 3: We're rolling.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Funny.
- 24:30Speaker 5: Take me inside, man, I mean, you're getting to experience
- 24:33Speaker 5: a super Bowl, you know. I mean I grew up
- 24:36Speaker 5: I played baseball, and so yeah, I always had the
- 24:39Speaker 5: dream of playing in the World Series and you kind
- 24:41Speaker 5: of go through that, and yet even when you get
- 24:44Speaker 5: to the professional level, you don't necessarily expect or or
- 24:48Speaker 5: know that you're going to get the opportunity to play
- 24:51Speaker 5: in the big game.
- 24:53Speaker 2: So take me inside.
- 24:53Speaker 5: What's it like, I mean, is there a little Eric
- 24:55Speaker 5: Sobert in there that's kind of looking around going, oh
- 24:58Speaker 5: my gosh.
- 24:59Speaker 2: This is a super mhm.
- 25:03Speaker 4: Definitely.
- 25:04Speaker 6: I'm just trying to stay you know, present in the
- 25:06Speaker 6: moment and taking like the little things, you know, because
- 25:11Speaker 6: I feel like, if you're you know, just focus on Sunday,
- 25:15Speaker 6: you're gonna miss a lot. So trying to treat it,
- 25:18Speaker 6: you know, like a normal game prep week, but also
- 25:22Speaker 6: you know, enjoy the moments that make this week special.
- 25:26Speaker 6: There's definitely, you know, a part of me inside of
- 25:28Speaker 6: me and it's like, man, this this is the super Bowl,
- 25:30Speaker 6: this is this is awesome. But at the same time,
- 25:34Speaker 6: you know.
- 25:35Speaker 4: Trying to get ready.
- 25:36Speaker 6: So it's it's kind of balancing that and I think
- 25:38Speaker 6: the team has done a really good job giving us
- 25:40Speaker 6: resources to to manage it effectively.
- 25:44Speaker 3: Were you ever little though?
- 25:47Speaker 2: Were?
- 25:51Speaker 4: No?
- 25:51Speaker 6: Definitely not.
- 25:53Speaker 4: I was. I was a late bloomer. Late bloomer in.
- 25:56Speaker 6: Uh in college is when I started putting on size.
- 26:00Speaker 3: So okay, Yeah, Drake known for its NFL talent that
- 26:06Speaker 3: it's cranked out there at Drake. Yeah, you're a Chicago,
- 26:11Speaker 3: Illinois guy. He's another Illinois guy. See see the connection.
- 26:15Speaker 3: You could probably tell the connection that he and I
- 26:17Speaker 3: had from the jump. Eric Salbert is with us right
- 26:20Speaker 3: here on the Chuck and Buck in the morning. Do
- 26:22Speaker 3: you really regret that year in San Francisco? I mean,
- 26:25Speaker 3: doesn't it seem silly now that you were a forty
- 26:27Speaker 3: nine er at one point?
- 26:31Speaker 4: Uh? You know, I never regret any of the years.
- 26:34Speaker 6: You know, maybe made some good memories on our team.
- 26:39Speaker 6: One thing I will say, you know, regarding this this
- 26:42Speaker 6: power station next to their building, Oh, I've never I've
- 26:47Speaker 6: never missed. I've never really missed time before, uh in
- 26:51Speaker 6: a season and you know, I come from San Francisco
- 26:54Speaker 6: to Seattle and I'm missing six games this year. It's
- 26:58Speaker 6: just you know, it's it's a little interesting.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a little interesting. More investigation needs to take
- 27:04Speaker 3: place there, no question about it. You were also a
- 27:07Speaker 3: New England Patriot for a little while. What are your
- 27:10Speaker 3: memories of being on the wrong side of this matchup?
- 27:16Speaker 4: Man? I was.
- 27:17Speaker 6: I was traded there in twenty nineteen and it was just,
- 27:21Speaker 6: you know, a whirlwind. Honestly at that point, I was
- 27:23Speaker 6: still kind of in my formative years as an NFL
- 27:27Speaker 6: player and uh really just trying to stay afloat in
- 27:30Speaker 6: the league. You know, also some some good memories there,
- 27:38Speaker 6: you know, getting to you know, meet and play under
- 27:41Speaker 6: Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Like it's pretty cool as a
- 27:45Speaker 6: as a young player, but like you know, no ill
- 27:49Speaker 6: will towards them for that experience. It's you know, all
- 27:51Speaker 6: these all these stops I've had, are you know, places
- 27:54Speaker 6: you can learn from.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, obviously you're getting in.
- 27:58Speaker 5: That's one of the beauties of the kind of jump
- 28:00Speaker 5: and around as you get a whole bunch of people
- 28:01Speaker 5: to learn from one guy that this you know is
- 28:04Speaker 5: probably going to be you and the rest of the Seahawks.
- 28:07Speaker 5: Last time getting to learn from his Clinton Kubiak, it
- 28:10Speaker 5: seems like he may be getting a big opportunity at
- 28:13Speaker 5: the end of the season. What is he meant to
- 28:15Speaker 5: you personally and what he could learn from him?
- 28:19Speaker 6: Man, he's been everything as as offensive coordinator, He's been, uh,
- 28:24Speaker 6: you know, such a leader for us, and he speaks
- 28:27Speaker 6: so much positivity and life into our unit. And on
- 28:31Speaker 6: top of that, just a ton of gratitude. And you know,
- 28:34Speaker 6: the gratitude is uh, you know, it's reciprocal, It's goes
- 28:39Speaker 6: both ways. You know, we're all so grateful for him
- 28:42Speaker 6: and super happy for him and his opportunity to you know,
- 28:45Speaker 6: he's on top of being a you know, a great
- 28:48Speaker 6: offensive mind. You know, he's he's a great person and
- 28:51Speaker 6: he deserves uh, you know, uh, the next thing, the
- 28:56Speaker 6: next steps coming.
- 28:57Speaker 3: In and give us the same kind of sky report
- 29:00Speaker 3: for your quarterback, Sam Donald. Your year with him this year.
- 29:03Speaker 3: I mean, he's had to dispel a lot of the
- 29:05Speaker 3: critics out there. Give us Eric Sauburn's sixty second breakdown
- 29:10Speaker 3: of Sam Donald.
- 29:14Speaker 6: Man, you know, I've been I've been talking Sam up
- 29:16Speaker 6: all weekend.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Or yesterday or whatever. Sam as the man.
- 29:21Speaker 6: He's one of my closest friends on team. It's the
- 29:23Speaker 6: guy you love playing with. He's a leader, he's a
- 29:29Speaker 6: you know, a good good person, someone you can talk
- 29:32Speaker 6: to and you know kind of you know, just he's
- 29:37Speaker 6: a he's a Seahawks, he's what we are. And uh,
- 29:40Speaker 6: you know, on top of that, you know a great
- 29:43Speaker 6: player that's that led us as far and you know
- 29:45Speaker 6: he's our guy.
- 29:47Speaker 3: All right. How about this scenario super Bowl sixty on
- 29:52Speaker 3: Sunday goes into overtime and we just do that little
- 29:56Speaker 3: slippery thing that you and Sam did, uh to close
- 29:59Speaker 3: out the that one. How about closing out a super
- 30:02Speaker 3: Bowl that way?
- 30:02Speaker 2: What do you say?
- 30:05Speaker 4: Man?
- 30:05Speaker 6: That would be uh a cherry on top of the
- 30:08Speaker 6: amazed already amazing season. You know, it might get some
- 30:11Speaker 6: of the the twelves, you know fired up.
- 30:15Speaker 4: You think they should run the ball.
- 30:17Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point.
- 30:24Speaker 6: We gotta be careful with our game running play.
- 30:26Speaker 3: You know, that's a great point.
- 30:29Speaker 2: You bring up.
- 30:30Speaker 3: Shame on me, all right, man, Well, hey, have the
- 30:33Speaker 3: time of your life and best of luck on Sunday.
- 30:37Speaker 3: We appreciate a few minutes of your time this morning.
- 30:42Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate it, all right.
- 30:44Speaker 3: Eric Saubert joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
- 30:47Speaker 3: in the mornings as he's getting ready for the Super Bowl. Yeah,
- 30:50Speaker 3: you gotta be careful with those plate decisions if you're
- 30:54Speaker 3: a Seahawk with the game on the line from the
- 30:56Speaker 3: one yard line. Yeah, yeah, you got to make sure
- 30:59Speaker 3: that you know, we've thought of everything. Let's think of
- 31:01Speaker 3: everything all right. Coming up next here on the radio program,
- 31:05Speaker 3: we do have Mike Sando and Humil and joining us
- 31:07Speaker 3: in the nine o'clock hour. We're going to combine those
- 31:10Speaker 3: two forces together today. But I did mention earlier based
- 31:14Speaker 3: off of Jessman's interview with Nicki min Wori, I got
- 31:17Speaker 3: to talk more about number three next Sports Radio ninety
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- 32:12Speaker 3: We got here on Monday. Lazy people like Kay Adams
- 32:15Speaker 3: didn't get here until today. So she's just I guess,
- 32:18Speaker 3: decided to roll in on a Wednesday. Meanwhile, we've been,
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- 32:54Speaker 3: By the way, you guys get enough credit for all that,
- 32:57Speaker 3: all the sacrifice and dedicated Yeah the first day.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:01Speaker 3: By the way, Kay, I took a nap on your
- 33:03Speaker 3: couch yesterday, so just so you know, Uh, and I
- 33:06Speaker 3: only wore boxers.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Yeah, and you might want to watch out.
- 33:10Speaker 5: I might have put a Snickers ice cream bar under
- 33:12Speaker 5: that cushion you're sitting on.
- 33:14Speaker 3: Ah, I'm gonna get yeah, yep, live with it.
- 33:19Speaker 2: It's gonna look like you made a mess.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Okay, live with it later, rivor yep. Anyway, we've got
- 33:27Speaker 3: Mike Sando and Hugh Millon. Look at those two over there.
- 33:29Speaker 3: That's like thirteen feet of football analysis just talking over there,
- 33:34Speaker 3: tall football, Yeah exactly. They're both six foot six and
- 33:39Speaker 3: full of muscle.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Just talking ball a gatorade.
- 33:42Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 33:42Speaker 3: So we're gonna put them on together. This is one
- 33:44Speaker 3: of my favorite parts about this entire process, the Radio
- 33:47Speaker 3: Row processes. We get to take some of our regular
- 33:50Speaker 3: people and put them in different positions, and we never
- 33:52Speaker 3: have Sando and Milan on together. But we're gonna have
- 33:55Speaker 3: them on in the nine o'clock hour. We might even
- 33:57Speaker 3: introduce them to the old judge in the nine o'clock
- 34:00Speaker 3: which I'm excited about.
- 34:02Speaker 2: See if they zip it.
- 34:03Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to making you make seeing you
- 34:08Speaker 3: make them zip.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Yeah. We'll see how that works out.
- 34:12Speaker 3: But you know, we had Jessmin was interviewing nick Eman
- 34:17Speaker 3: Warror earlier in the show, and obviously nick Eman Warr's
- 34:21Speaker 3: taken Seattle by storm. I mean, he's the best defensive
- 34:24Speaker 3: player arguably on the team and inarguably the best defensive
- 34:27Speaker 3: rookie in the National Football League this year, and it
- 34:31Speaker 3: looks like he's just scratching the surface. But in that conversation,
- 34:34Speaker 3: and you can hear it on our podcast ninety three
- 34:36Speaker 3: three KJR dot com, and I would imagine other shows
- 34:38Speaker 3: are gonna replay the same conversation between jess And and Nick.
- 34:45Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm sitting there listening to it, and
- 34:48Speaker 3: certainly fabulous interviewing technique, yeah oh yeah by McIntyre, for sure.
- 34:53Speaker 3: But in terms of Nick, I mean he just checks
- 34:57Speaker 3: every box. I mean there is this element of him
- 35:01Speaker 3: of having this swagger like no, I belong here that
- 35:05Speaker 3: he he had all the way back to training camp
- 35:08Speaker 3: when we interviewed him at training camp, Like there wasn't
- 35:11Speaker 3: any star struck I don't belong here moment. I don't
- 35:15Speaker 3: think in Nick emon Wore's entire process. And yet there
- 35:19Speaker 3: was the recognition of all these guys I need.
- 35:23Speaker 2: To learn from.
- 35:25Speaker 3: And I don't want to learn in a hurry because
- 35:26Speaker 3: I don't want to wait. I don't want some rookie
- 35:29Speaker 3: year before I don't want two three years down the
- 35:31Speaker 3: road before it clicks with me. I want to be
- 35:34Speaker 3: as great as possible as soon as possible, and yet
- 35:38Speaker 3: he didn't come in here with that idea that I'm
- 35:40Speaker 3: already there. He came in wanting to learn, and yet
- 35:44Speaker 3: still had this swagger of no, I'm going to get there.
- 35:47Speaker 3: This confidence about him, he has this I mean, I
- 35:50Speaker 3: was just listening to the interview. I remember how difficult
- 35:53Speaker 3: Jaron Reid is a vibrant personality, but when he was
- 35:57Speaker 3: a rookie man, it was it was difficult to talk
- 36:01Speaker 3: to Jaron Reed, like he was so nervous and so
- 36:05Speaker 3: Nick never has really displayed that. I mean, it's like
- 36:10Speaker 3: it's this perfect combination of confidence bordering on swagger without
- 36:16Speaker 3: being overconfident. And I just I think that that's not
- 36:22Speaker 3: a fluke that he's been sensational this year because not
- 36:26Speaker 3: only does he have the extraordinary athletic ability, which we
- 36:29Speaker 3: know about, we knew that through the draft process, but
- 36:31Speaker 3: I just think his entire approach to being a professional
- 36:34Speaker 3: athlete is just spot on, and to already have that
- 36:38Speaker 3: at age twenty one twenty two, it's incredible.
- 36:41Speaker 5: Well, it's the not having what you're talking about and
- 36:45Speaker 5: and praising him for is one of my bigger frustrations
- 36:49Speaker 5: with professional athletes. But maybe I need to step back
- 36:53Speaker 5: and realize it's not as easy for everyone to be confident,
- 36:58Speaker 5: borderline cocky on the field, to have that swagger you
- 37:01Speaker 5: speak of, and also be humble enough to recognize, well,
- 37:04Speaker 5: I'm not as good as I need to be. Eventually,
- 37:07Speaker 5: I'm most certainly at twenty years old or twenty two
- 37:09Speaker 5: years old, I most certainly have things I can learn
- 37:12Speaker 5: from those that play my position or don't even play
- 37:16Speaker 5: my position, but have been in this league for a
- 37:18Speaker 5: long time. I'm going to I'm going to recognize that
- 37:21Speaker 5: I don't know everything and yet. So it's a really
- 37:23Speaker 5: frustrating thing for me when I see athletes burst on
- 37:26Speaker 5: the scene and all of a sudden, they got the confidence,
- 37:29Speaker 5: they got the swagger, and they don't have any humility
- 37:32Speaker 5: to recognize I still have work to do. Yeah, I
- 37:34Speaker 5: still have growth that needs to happen. He doesn't seem
- 37:37Speaker 5: to have an issue with that. He has the perfect combo.
- 37:40Speaker 5: There's no ifans or butts when number three is on
- 37:42Speaker 5: the football field. He's not thinking, oh, I'm a rookie.
- 37:45Speaker 5: I hope I don't make a mistake. He's reading, reacting,
- 37:48Speaker 5: and going and making plays that quite frankly, a lot
- 37:51Speaker 5: of people physically just can't make. But then off of
- 37:55Speaker 5: the field, it seems as if he's got enough confidence
- 37:58Speaker 5: in swagger, probably even more than confidence enough swagger to
- 38:01Speaker 5: where he can kick it and hang with the other
- 38:04Speaker 5: guys on the team that he is peers with. As
- 38:06Speaker 5: far as I'm a starter, you're a starter. We're trying
- 38:08Speaker 5: to win a super Bowl. He has enough swagger to
- 38:11Speaker 5: kind of still fit in there, and it's not like
- 38:13Speaker 5: he has to be all right, rookie whatever, but then
- 38:16Speaker 5: enough humility to recognize I am a rookie. Yeah, I'm
- 38:19Speaker 5: going to have my ears open. There's a reason God
- 38:22Speaker 5: give us two years in one mouth, because you need
- 38:24Speaker 5: to have your ears open as much as you have
- 38:26Speaker 5: your mouth. And he seems to be a guy that
- 38:27Speaker 5: kind of gets that as well. So yeah, I think
- 38:29Speaker 5: they it's not a diamond in the rough. I mean,
- 38:31Speaker 5: they picked him what thirty fifth or thirty sixth overall,
- 38:34Speaker 5: so it's not like but the fact that they worked
- 38:36Speaker 5: that draft to be able to get him also was
- 38:40Speaker 5: masterful by John Schneider, and I think it's gonna pay
- 38:42Speaker 5: off in the long run for a long time.
- 38:44Speaker 3: It's just a great it's just a great structure. I
- 38:47Speaker 3: don't know how well he was coaching all of his parenting.
- 38:50Speaker 3: I don't know what happened along the way or if
- 38:52Speaker 3: it just is an eight in him he was born
- 38:54Speaker 3: with it. But it's just combination of all the things.
- 38:57Speaker 3: I mean, you played minor league baseball. Every year there
- 39:01Speaker 3: was the bonus baby, and then there was the guy
- 39:04Speaker 3: that didn't work hard, and the guy with all the
- 39:06Speaker 3: talent in the world that didn't understand it. And then
- 39:08Speaker 3: there was the guy that didn't work hard enough, he
- 39:10Speaker 3: wasn't hungry enough. And then there was the guy that
- 39:13Speaker 3: the rudy rudiger who hustled too much and everybody was
- 39:17Speaker 3: annoyed by. I mean, you played probably with twenty three
- 39:22Speaker 3: different type of personalities and they had a couple good
- 39:25Speaker 3: attributes and like five flaws, and this guy's like, no,
- 39:29Speaker 3: I take all. I have all the good things that
- 39:31Speaker 3: you're looking for, and really none of the flaws. From
- 39:34Speaker 3: a mental I'm not even talking about his physical that's
- 39:38Speaker 3: off the charts. I'm just talking about from like his
- 39:40Speaker 3: mental approach to his rookie season this year. And because
- 39:44Speaker 3: of that, it's no it's no fluke that seventeen games
- 39:49Speaker 3: into his career, he might be the best defensive player
- 39:53Speaker 3: on the Super Bowl champion, right, I mean, think about that.
- 39:57Speaker 3: We certainly didn't think Nick even where he was capable
- 40:00Speaker 3: of that, but we didn't.
- 40:00Speaker 5: Know him all that well when we first met. Personality wise,
- 40:04Speaker 5: that's an innate quality. There's definitely a team of people. Again,
- 40:08Speaker 5: I don't know his I'm like you, I don't know
- 40:09Speaker 5: his family history, I don't know how he was brought up,
- 40:12Speaker 5: but whoever was in his corner and helping kind of
- 40:15Speaker 5: mold him well done, because he there's some of that
- 40:20Speaker 5: you can't just be born with. You have to learn
- 40:23Speaker 5: this is how you act as a professional, and he obviously,
- 40:25Speaker 5: coming out of college, had a far more professional mindset
- 40:30Speaker 5: than a lot of people do.
- 40:31Speaker 3: Mike Sando, Hugh MELLONEX Sports Radio ninety three point three
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