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- 0:05Speaker 1: You are listening to the global network of podcasters dedicated
- 0:09Speaker 1: to the pharmacy profession. Welcome to the Pharmacy podcast Network.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the Holistic Pharmacy Podcast. I'm your host,
- 0:33Speaker 2: Marina books Of and I'm a functional medicine pharmacist in
- 0:36Speaker 2: New York. I'm also a clinical herbalist and an integrative
- 0:40Speaker 2: health coach specializing in mindfulness and empowerment. I'm on a
- 0:45Speaker 2: mission to transform the way we approach healthcare by bridging
- 0:49Speaker 2: the wisdom of traditional medicine with modern practice, and in
- 0:53Speaker 2: this podcast, I will be highlighting guests who do just that.
- 0:58Speaker 2: I'm constantly inspired by them and I know you will
- 1:01Speaker 2: be as well.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome back to the Holistic Pharmacy Podcast. I have
- 1:06Speaker 3: a beautiful guest for you today. Her name is Ossi Mizrachi.
- 1:10Speaker 3: She's an aervedic alchemist, a wellness expert, and founder of
- 1:15Speaker 3: Ossy Oils, a luxury holistic brand devoted to slow beauty
- 1:20Speaker 3: and slow aging through timeless aervedic rituals. Ossi has over
- 1:25Speaker 3: thirty years of experience in aerveda, yoga and integrative wellness.
- 1:29Speaker 3: Her work empowers individuals to reconnect with their bodies intelligence
- 1:34Speaker 3: through daily rituals, plant based remedies, and mindful living. Her brand,
- 1:39Speaker 3: Ossy Oils, launched in twenty twelve, is built on the
- 1:42Speaker 3: principle that oil is love, a daily act of self
- 1:46Speaker 3: care that nourishes the skin, calms the nervous system, and
- 1:50Speaker 3: restores balance. Every product blends ancient aerveda formulations with modern sensibility,
- 1:56Speaker 3: offering more than skin care. It's a lifestyle rooted in ritual,
- 2:00Speaker 3: sensuality and wellness. So, without further ado Usye, welcome to
- 2:06Speaker 3: the show.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thank you for having me. I'm
- 2:10Speaker 4: really excited to drop in and see what come out
- 2:14Speaker 4: of this great gathering.
- 2:16Speaker 3: Likewise, so the first question I have for you is
- 2:20Speaker 3: about your origin story. Tell us about where you grew
- 2:24Speaker 3: up and how you came to do this kind of work.
- 2:27Speaker 4: Yeah, this is you know, I really do believe that
- 2:32Speaker 4: if you on a path, things come to you, if
- 2:35Speaker 4: you just look, if you just open to receive. And
- 2:40Speaker 4: I would say that this spot really came to me
- 2:44Speaker 4: because I was on a different route. I was, you know,
- 2:50Speaker 4: finishing economic degree in New York City a few years
- 2:54Speaker 4: before I moved from Israel. I was like really eager
- 2:57Speaker 4: to get into finance. Oh my friends were on you know,
- 3:02Speaker 4: on the trading floor, and it really inspired me. I was,
- 3:06Speaker 4: you know, a type A really want to succeed, love
- 3:09Speaker 4: working with money. And I went into becoming a phone
- 3:12Speaker 4: exchange trader, and that was basically what I thought I
- 3:18Speaker 4: want to do. And you know, life getting married, pretty young,
- 3:24Speaker 4: three kids within three years at three and a half years,
- 3:27Speaker 4: I had three kids, and you know, life slow you down.
- 3:31Speaker 4: And I love practicing yoga, and that was you know,
- 3:35Speaker 4: my passion is practicing yoga till you get good enough
- 3:39Speaker 4: that you're able to teach. And I would say, prior
- 3:42Speaker 4: to the growing up in Israel, that's why I really
- 3:45Speaker 4: feel that our path is really there for us all along.
- 3:49Speaker 4: We came with a purpose without knowing it or we
- 3:53Speaker 4: know it or we don't know it. We you know,
- 3:55Speaker 4: we hear with intention if we said the intention, or
- 3:59Speaker 4: it just open to it. And you know, I grew
- 4:03Speaker 4: up across like really close to a farm and working
- 4:07Speaker 4: farm in Israel, so I was I was every afternoon
- 4:11Speaker 4: I would spend my time with you know, with animals,
- 4:16Speaker 4: with avocado trees, with peac countries, cows and chickens, and
- 4:23Speaker 4: I would just walk around and spend hours afternoon at
- 4:27Speaker 4: the farm. It was like my place to really connect
- 4:31Speaker 4: to the earth. And I would say that also my
- 4:34Speaker 4: dad was very much into you know, farming and beekeeping,
- 4:39Speaker 4: and so he would take me along with him on
- 4:42Speaker 4: his hikes and trips and and and the love of
- 4:46Speaker 4: the earth and nature probably was the first introductive introductory
- 4:50Speaker 4: for me. For Ayovetta, I would say.
- 4:56Speaker 3: Wow, beautiful, that's amazing that you happen to go walk
- 5:00Speaker 3: that way and that really opened the door for you.
- 5:03Speaker 3: And then your degree that you choose to pursue seems
- 5:06Speaker 3: to be like completely opposite of that. So I'm curious
- 5:10Speaker 3: how you kind of went back together with a your
- 5:13Speaker 3: veta in your journey.
- 5:15Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, you know, it's it's you have
- 5:21Speaker 4: to listen. You got to listen to your body. You
- 5:23Speaker 4: don't have to do anything, but you know, when you
- 5:26Speaker 4: start listening to your body, your body basically had a
- 5:29Speaker 4: rhythm and it would tell you you know you're going
- 5:33Speaker 4: too fast, you know you're doing too much, and the
- 5:39Speaker 4: way it forms in the body is disease. Right, it
- 5:43Speaker 4: doesn't accumulate right way into an actual disease, but there's
- 5:48Speaker 4: underline you learn in aveda that underline, we have a
- 5:56Speaker 4: disposition of almost all of us in our DNA of disease.
- 6:01Speaker 4: And when we start to practice a yoveda, a lot
- 6:07Speaker 4: of time people would go and do puncha karma, which
- 6:09Speaker 4: mean extracting the karma, the taxin right, you know, puancha
- 6:16Speaker 4: karma is like the element of five, the five element,
- 6:19Speaker 4: and you basically bringing the disease into the surface, the
- 6:23Speaker 4: disposition into the surface. And you know, when I, after
- 6:31Speaker 4: having three kids, I heard about and I was already
- 6:34Speaker 4: practicing yoga, I heard about puncha karma. I heard about
- 6:38Speaker 4: a doctor out in New Mexico, and I'm a seeker.
- 6:43Speaker 4: I want to learn, I want to know more, and
- 6:46Speaker 4: I planned this strip to go and get puncha karma,
- 6:50Speaker 4: and in fact, I got really, really sick afterwards, which
- 6:53Speaker 4: made me realize later on, after studying, you know, and
- 6:58Speaker 4: becoming a punch of karma, you know, a technician, and
- 7:02Speaker 4: doing all the aveta training, you know, you learn there's
- 7:06Speaker 4: many different way of doing ayovetda and puncha karma is
- 7:13Speaker 4: a way to It's sort of the medicine behind aoveda.
- 7:18Speaker 4: So you go and get these treatments and you have
- 7:20Speaker 4: a vadia, which is an aveda doctor who check your pulse.
- 7:24Speaker 4: He doesn't check your tongue. It sometimes they do check
- 7:26Speaker 4: your tongue, but they check your polls. It's not like
- 7:29Speaker 4: they have that. You know, you're in a medical field, right,
- 7:32Speaker 4: so you have tools to check the heart, you have
- 7:35Speaker 4: tools to you know, you do the blood work to
- 7:38Speaker 4: check what's going on in aveda. Your polls and your
- 7:44Speaker 4: tongue can show everything of what's going on in the body.
- 7:48Speaker 4: And in fact, the guy who's taking my pulse was
- 7:51Speaker 4: definitely a master those bodias. Some of them are unbelievable
- 7:56Speaker 4: that he detect what's going on in my body. But
- 8:00Speaker 4: a lot of time for a Western punch a karma
- 8:04Speaker 4: is a little bit aggressive. If because our liver is
- 8:08Speaker 4: so toxic from the environment, from the plastic, from the
- 8:12Speaker 4: fat that we take in the unhealthy, unprocessed fat, in
- 8:16Speaker 4: the oils that are not called press so they're not
- 8:19Speaker 4: clean oils that we're using. The liver cannot do this
- 8:23Speaker 4: job because it's it's already so impacted that the disease
- 8:30Speaker 4: that you have underneath underline is coming up when you
- 8:35Speaker 4: do puncha karma. And unless you're working with a doctor,
- 8:40Speaker 4: Indian doctor who actually know very well the Western society.
- 8:46Speaker 4: You know, we didn't grow up on taking tons of
- 8:49Speaker 4: ashwagandhai memes and pakochi and all the wonderful herbs, the
- 8:54Speaker 4: great IRBs. But if you impact your body with all
- 8:57Speaker 4: those herbs and you keep taking vitamins and you keep
- 8:59Speaker 4: doing all those treatments, your body is not even ready
- 9:02Speaker 4: for it. And a lot of time you actually coming
- 9:07Speaker 4: out of those treatment and you feel really sick. And
- 9:10Speaker 4: my whole mission was when I started developing my my
- 9:15Speaker 4: company was really came from Pancha Karma. I had Pancha
- 9:19Speaker 4: Karma and I had a download. It was a great
- 9:21Speaker 4: everybody needs to know about it. But we're dealing with
- 9:24Speaker 4: Western women who wants to put They don't just want
- 9:27Speaker 4: to put Sasa the oil on their body. They want
- 9:29Speaker 4: to put something that's actually going to smell good. They're
- 9:32Speaker 4: not just going to put the herbs without something that
- 9:36Speaker 4: you know will not make them feel feminine. I'm not
- 9:40Speaker 4: going to do it every day. Maybe I'll do it
- 9:41Speaker 4: once in a while, but I know the effect of
- 9:44Speaker 4: doing applying the oils on your body on a daily basis,
- 9:49Speaker 4: and you don't have to go to India to do it.
- 9:51Speaker 4: You can do it in your own house. And that
- 9:54Speaker 4: was my whole realization that I was, like, this is
- 9:58Speaker 4: very expensive treatment. You know, I have three young kids.
- 10:01Speaker 4: I'm not going to live in my kids for a
- 10:03Speaker 4: month to do those treatments. I gotta figure a way
- 10:06Speaker 4: how I can be a Western doing it here, doing
- 10:09Speaker 4: it from home with all the tools that I have.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely resonate with that. I have two young
- 10:18Speaker 3: children at home, and I'm always having to balance and
- 10:22Speaker 3: juggle where am I going to prioritize their health and activities.
- 10:27Speaker 3: Where am I going to do some self care and
- 10:30Speaker 3: me time, and then working on my business and doing
- 10:34Speaker 3: all the things and following my passion and as you said,
- 10:37Speaker 3: listening to continue to develop your intuition and walk your path.
- 10:44Speaker 3: And so it just takes a lot of intentionality and
- 10:48Speaker 3: awareness to like cultivate that inner strength. And there's a
- 10:54Speaker 3: lot of outside noise, like you said, Western culture, it's
- 10:57Speaker 3: not just the physical and by alot and environmental toxins.
- 11:02Speaker 3: It's just also all the distractions and the technology and
- 11:06Speaker 3: the screen and all the modern conveniences that are actually
- 11:11Speaker 3: taking us away from the simple quiet relaxing time, which
- 11:16Speaker 3: is where that healing actually happens.
- 11:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm curious Ussie, if you would mind sharing
- 11:24Speaker 3: with us your personal experience of why the yoga and
- 11:28Speaker 3: ir Veda tradition really spoke to you and called you
- 11:31Speaker 3: and when you realized like that power of the puncha karma,
- 11:36Speaker 3: why you wanted to share it with others.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I would say that. You know, I
- 11:44Speaker 4: remember I was fifteen and my neighbors were in Israel,
- 11:48Speaker 4: and my neighbors were Americans, and it just came from
- 11:53Speaker 4: New York and asked me to help them teach their
- 11:56Speaker 4: Sun Hebrew afternoon and ended up coming friends with the
- 12:01Speaker 4: parents more than taking care of the educating the sun.
- 12:06Speaker 4: And they invited me to come with them on a
- 12:08Speaker 4: trip to a kiboots And that was for me a
- 12:12Speaker 4: very much aha moment, Like Oprah says, that was for
- 12:16Speaker 4: me that knowing what does that really mean? Aha moment?
- 12:19Speaker 4: Is that there's a desire yearning of something that like
- 12:24Speaker 4: I've been here before, I'd done this before, I want
- 12:28Speaker 4: more of this, something about this feels right. My parents
- 12:32Speaker 4: there were hippies, but they were not Yogis. My parents
- 12:36Speaker 4: were you know, eat meat. They would eat meters. You know,
- 12:39Speaker 4: there's no meal without protein in a table. And my
- 12:43Speaker 4: mom was a chef, you know, and she cooked incredible
- 12:46Speaker 4: meals and pastry and all that kind of stuff. But
- 12:50Speaker 4: they didn't know about wheat, grass or juice or the
- 12:55Speaker 4: important of you know, lemon with water or drinking hot water.
- 13:00Speaker 4: And I'm going into this environment where everyone is vegan
- 13:05Speaker 4: and I'm eating a chese cake with blueberries that actually
- 13:09Speaker 4: had zero cheese. And I was like extremely curious about that.
- 13:15Speaker 4: And I Israel at that time was not very progressive
- 13:21Speaker 4: when it comes to yoga studios or health food stores.
- 13:26Speaker 4: Three years later, as God would have it, I'm moved
- 13:30Speaker 4: to New York City because my dad had a business
- 13:33Speaker 4: and we all moved into New York and candy stores
- 13:38Speaker 4: in the late eighties nineties were like candy store for me.
- 13:43Speaker 4: I would walk into a natural store and be like,
- 13:45Speaker 4: oh my god, this is incredible, the abundance of you know.
- 13:51Speaker 4: And then I got into my friend, who's a ballet dancer,
- 13:55Speaker 4: was a macrobiotic. It was a huge microbiotic movement in
- 13:58Speaker 4: New York City, and that was my first introduction again
- 14:03Speaker 4: is from food. First was viganism. Then it was a
- 14:06Speaker 4: microbiotic and then obviously practicing yoga in New York. For me,
- 14:16Speaker 4: I went into a very traditional yoga with a younger
- 14:19Speaker 4: in New York City, and Mary Don was one of
- 14:24Speaker 4: my teacher, and I loved the militant energy about it,
- 14:30Speaker 4: like this alignment and organization of your inner body. And
- 14:35Speaker 4: I would walk in New York City, you know, getting
- 14:38Speaker 4: a Jewish from integral yoga and you know, you know,
- 14:43Speaker 4: walking after a class, and my whole body was just
- 14:47Speaker 4: like space. But I experienced space and freedom. And it
- 14:53Speaker 4: wasn't freedom because I'm popping pills and drugs and I'm
- 14:57Speaker 4: dancing naked. It was a certain amount of freedom. I'm
- 15:01Speaker 4: doing plan medicine and suddenly I'm feeling free or enlightened
- 15:05Speaker 4: or the dm DMT experience. It was actually in my
- 15:10Speaker 4: physical body being present. I felt so grounded and healthy
- 15:16Speaker 4: and organized in my mind, and I think that was
- 15:21Speaker 4: something I was really attracted to, and that memory stayed
- 15:24Speaker 4: with me. I guess when I was trading foreign exchange
- 15:29Speaker 4: and that light didn't fit my life anymore. I couldn't
- 15:32Speaker 4: do getting up at four in the morning to trade
- 15:37Speaker 4: Swiss frank where and then going out on with clients
- 15:42Speaker 4: to drink, because that's what you do in New York
- 15:45Speaker 4: City when you're in wall studio, drink alcohol and you're
- 15:48Speaker 4: taking clients and then you on top of the world.
- 15:50Speaker 4: Back in the nineties, it was like everybody got credit
- 15:53Speaker 4: card and cars and limos and crazy life. And I
- 15:57Speaker 4: was like, it doesn't fit my life. It doesn't fit
- 16:01Speaker 4: My kids need to go to bed, I have to
- 16:03Speaker 4: take the baths, and I'm only twenty you know, I
- 16:08Speaker 4: was twenty seven and I have two kids, you know,
- 16:12Speaker 4: twenty seven of two kids. I started twenty five and
- 16:15Speaker 4: by twenty eight I had three kids. So it didn't
- 16:18Speaker 4: fit my life. So at that point, you know, I
- 16:21Speaker 4: wanted something to do. You know, I'm I'm I'm a
- 16:25Speaker 4: high achiever and competitive. I want to continue learn. And
- 16:30Speaker 4: I got deeper into because the sister of Ayovetda of
- 16:35Speaker 4: Yogays basically are you Vetda. So if yoguys the body,
- 16:41Speaker 4: the mind, the spirit, Areuveda is your life science. It's lifespan,
- 16:47Speaker 4: right at all of us at one point going to
- 16:49Speaker 4: want to live longer, all of us at one point
- 16:52Speaker 4: going to want to age gracefully. I don't care what
- 16:55Speaker 4: you're doing medically, it's none of my business. My business
- 17:00Speaker 4: is to really connect to all this wisdom that is
- 17:06Speaker 4: five thousand years old that our grandmothers we do like
- 17:12Speaker 4: you know GHI Like when my dad saw me cooking
- 17:16Speaker 4: gee and c making gi, he was like, Oh, the
- 17:20Speaker 4: bed women in Israel used to put gear around their
- 17:23Speaker 4: eyes because you know, the sun and they will like
- 17:26Speaker 4: help them and lubricate. It was like, oh, wow, that's
- 17:29Speaker 4: so cool. Or you know when I made when I
- 17:33Speaker 4: made a paneer and I would take the milk and
- 17:36Speaker 4: put lemon and separate the water which is the white protein,
- 17:40Speaker 4: from the from the cheese. They basically the you know,
- 17:44Speaker 4: separate the fat. And it was like when when my
- 17:47Speaker 4: mom saw me, she was like, oh, grandma used to
- 17:49Speaker 4: do that. So you're just going back into the simplicity
- 17:56Speaker 4: like you said a minute ago.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for sharing that with us. And I
- 18:04Speaker 3: know you mentioned that there was a challenge when you
- 18:07Speaker 3: initially dove into puncha karma yourself because it involves a
- 18:11Speaker 3: lot of detoxification. So could you elaborate on what that
- 18:16Speaker 3: was like and how maybe people can avoid that.
- 18:18Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a great, great subject in a question,
- 18:23Speaker 4: and I would say that I always had digestive issues,
- 18:31Speaker 4: meaning it wasn't labeled anything, but I would add cramps
- 18:37Speaker 4: because I didn't eat enough. I was super skinny as
- 18:40Speaker 4: a kid, probably when hours climbing on trees and not eating,
- 18:45Speaker 4: so I would have cramp in. You know, I had
- 18:48Speaker 4: too much air, you know, we call it too much vata,
- 18:52Speaker 4: which is the air element in the body, right, and
- 18:56Speaker 4: that caused blowdiness and gas and all that constantly. Then
- 19:01Speaker 4: then later on it is constantly in the fifteen age fifteen,
- 19:04Speaker 4: constantly constantpation. Why because there's not enough oils in the body,
- 19:10Speaker 4: There's not enough lubrication. Maybe I wasn't drinking enough right
- 19:14Speaker 4: again another issue. And then after having three kids, I
- 19:19Speaker 4: think it was so fast, having three kids, a nursing
- 19:22Speaker 4: and it was a lot of stress on my body.
- 19:25Speaker 4: And then I started developing. Probably at that time they
- 19:30Speaker 4: didn't know what it was, but probably in the medical
- 19:34Speaker 4: field you'll call it IBS or a start form of
- 19:37Speaker 4: colitis practiitis, And they didn't know what it was. And
- 19:41Speaker 4: it was just constantly. If I eat late, I have
- 19:44Speaker 4: severe stomach ache and I have to put like a
- 19:46Speaker 4: hot pack on my stomach or you know, always something
- 19:51Speaker 4: going on with my digestive that I didn't really put
- 19:54Speaker 4: my pulse on it. I didn't know what exactly it was.
- 19:58Speaker 4: But when I did punch a karma, the good thing
- 20:01Speaker 4: is it brought it to the surface. The bad thing
- 20:05Speaker 4: is what do you do with it? Because they immediately
- 20:09Speaker 4: hospitalized me after three months of having like bleeding, throwing
- 20:14Speaker 4: up can keeping food, severe stomach ache, and they basically
- 20:20Speaker 4: were run tons of tests, which is great, right, making
- 20:24Speaker 4: sure it's nothing. They didn't really have a lot of
- 20:27Speaker 4: diagnosis for me except that my whole digestive truck was inflamed.
- 20:32Speaker 4: And maybe I have chron disease, but I'm sephardic juice
- 20:36Speaker 4: juice really really don't have chron disease is more ashkenas juice,
- 20:42Speaker 4: who get that? So the kind of like that was
- 20:46Speaker 4: not it. And I basically was thrown home with one
- 20:51Speaker 4: doctor who say, oh, you should take a really good
- 20:53Speaker 4: a daphiles and you should be on medication for the
- 20:56Speaker 4: rest of your life called assacole, which is an aspirin
- 21:00Speaker 4: to basically cottona digest forever. And I'm like a yogi
- 21:05Speaker 4: practicing all these you know, healthy pastures arsenas and eating
- 21:11Speaker 4: healthy and wade grass and making sure I have good
- 21:15Speaker 4: acid aphilies. And at that time I probably was I
- 21:21Speaker 4: would say probably vegetarian because I went through so many
- 21:27Speaker 4: and I would say that I went into self inquiry.
- 21:32Speaker 4: I took three months off from work from teaching, and
- 21:36Speaker 4: I got a lot of help from the community with
- 21:38Speaker 4: the kids, driving them around, and I think I got
- 21:43Speaker 4: even help part time help to help me with the kids.
- 21:46Speaker 4: And I basically was like, I'm going to investigate it.
- 21:49Speaker 4: And I got really quiet, and I figure out what
- 21:53Speaker 4: really causing me to pain, And it's not really necessarily
- 21:57Speaker 4: so much the food. Is having a body that is
- 22:01Speaker 4: alkaline is really important, evident, you know, it's about the
- 22:06Speaker 4: oja like having this you know, life force and the
- 22:12Speaker 4: things that really sustain us. And I just basically learned
- 22:17Speaker 4: and learned to bring the pancha karma home in a
- 22:22Speaker 4: most gentle way so how to avoid getting you know,
- 22:28Speaker 4: what happened to me is basically is what I want
- 22:32Speaker 4: to do with my brand is basically educating people what
- 22:37Speaker 4: is pancha karma? Can you take it home? Like for instance,
- 22:41Speaker 4: ida bianga yesterday, This is a candle with a plate
- 22:48Speaker 4: and I put oil on it. I warm the oil
- 22:50Speaker 4: and I just massage the oil with those herbs. I
- 22:53Speaker 4: don't take the herbs. I put them on the skin.
- 22:57Speaker 4: I do a bianga probably every day, sometimes before showers,
- 23:02Speaker 4: sometime after shower, sometimes before bat sometimes after. You can
- 23:08Speaker 4: play with it. And I, you know, I do the clear.
- 23:13Speaker 4: I have a clear nostril. I put oil in my
- 23:15Speaker 4: nostril to protect and lubricate the lubricate the to lubricate
- 23:20Speaker 4: the sinuses, and you know, also put prevention from getting
- 23:26Speaker 4: disease and getting bacteria. I travel a lot. I want
- 23:29Speaker 4: to stay healthy. I drink constantly hot water, sip on
- 23:34Speaker 4: hot water all day. I learn all those drinks. And
- 23:38Speaker 4: I brought those striaks home. And that's what you would
- 23:41Speaker 4: do with punch of karma. You would eat a mono
- 23:43Speaker 4: diet colkichery, soups and stews and things that are cooked.
- 23:48Speaker 4: You refrain from dairy except ghee that you want to
- 23:53Speaker 4: eat meat. You get rid of the coffee for whatever
- 23:58Speaker 4: that week that you do the punch of karma. I
- 24:01Speaker 4: do tongue scrape every morning to clean my tongue from
- 24:06Speaker 4: the armor the toxin the coming up. And I do abianga.
- 24:11Speaker 4: I also have one oils that I put on the head.
- 24:14Speaker 4: I warm the same way I warm the oil the
- 24:17Speaker 4: head oil that have great herbs plus lavender, and I
- 24:22Speaker 4: massage my head with oil at night to bring the
- 24:26Speaker 4: vata the mind, come the mind. And getting puncha karma
- 24:33Speaker 4: really walk me up to realize that those self care
- 24:36Speaker 4: practices is really it's slow. You know, it's slow beauty
- 24:41Speaker 4: and it's low aging. It's you got to go back
- 24:43Speaker 4: to slowing down. You got to bring those practices at home,
- 24:47Speaker 4: even if you do one thing.
- 24:50Speaker 5: That sounds amazing.
- 24:52Speaker 3: And thank you for walking us through each of the
- 24:55Speaker 3: steps that you personally do for your routine. And I
- 24:58Speaker 3: also want to commend you on explaining how you approach
- 25:03Speaker 3: the symptoms that you were feeling, because I think even
- 25:07Speaker 3: the people listening they may take it with a little
- 25:11Speaker 3: bit of a surprise what the doctors would tell you,
- 25:15Speaker 3: and the fact that you knew to put a heat
- 25:17Speaker 3: pack on your stomach, that's something that people normally would
- 25:20Speaker 3: just pop some kind of pill like an antacid or
- 25:24Speaker 3: something to help them digest. And even the fact that
- 25:27Speaker 3: the doctors were recommending probiotics the acidophalus back then is
- 25:34Speaker 3: amazing to me because even now, when I went to
- 25:38Speaker 3: the doctor, had actually my own hospital scared that I
- 25:42Speaker 3: was there and they prescribed me antibiotics, they basically dismissed
- 25:47Speaker 3: probiotics as being helpful at all, even though the science
- 25:52Speaker 3: is now supporting specific traits and multiple strains and there's
- 25:58Speaker 3: a lot of evidence behind them now. And I'm not
- 26:02Speaker 3: going to go into the whole yeah conversation, because it's big,
- 26:06Speaker 3: it's a huge topic, and they're very problematic, and they're
- 26:09Speaker 3: very overprescribed, and we really need to focus on maintaining
- 26:14Speaker 3: and sustaining the flora of our body. But yeah, all
- 26:19Speaker 3: these diagnoses that maybe weren't even around back in the day,
- 26:24Speaker 3: and the prevalence and how frequently there they're diagnosed now,
- 26:28Speaker 3: and how people just get prescribed all of these biologic
- 26:33Speaker 3: and anti inflammatory and steroidal medications, and even just something
- 26:37Speaker 3: as simple as aspirin. As you shared our specific forms
- 26:40Speaker 3: of missalamine and other types of aspirin for drones and
- 26:44Speaker 3: IBD types of disorders and all kinds of things that
- 26:49Speaker 3: are going on in the gut. It just kind of
- 26:52Speaker 3: goes to show you that something is going on. Why
- 26:57Speaker 3: are we all coming down especially in the Western world,
- 27:00Speaker 3: with all these processed foods and all of these stressors
- 27:04Speaker 3: that we're dealing with, Why do we have these kinds
- 27:07Speaker 3: of illnesses pop up? And there's definitely a correlation there,
- 27:11Speaker 3: And I think, like you said, there is a lot
- 27:15Speaker 3: of great value of going back to the ancient ways
- 27:18Speaker 3: and studying what the ancient people did, including our own ancestors,
- 27:23Speaker 3: and figuring out what's the disconnect? Right, where did we
- 27:26Speaker 3: go from those things that used to help us maintain
- 27:30Speaker 3: health and life and vitality to now everybody seems to
- 27:35Speaker 3: be falling apart. With each generation, it just gets worse
- 27:38Speaker 3: and worse, and we can't keep blaming, you know, is
- 27:43Speaker 3: it this intervention or is it this vaccine, or is
- 27:46Speaker 3: it this or is it that we really have to
- 27:48Speaker 3: figure out what are all these factors and how do
- 27:51Speaker 3: we mitigate them all because they actually all play a role.
- 27:55Speaker 4: Yeah, this is so beautiful what you're saying. And the
- 27:59Speaker 4: first thing that come to so much I want to
- 28:01Speaker 4: say and respond, the first thing that most important. You
- 28:06Speaker 4: got to become your own doctor. The realization that I
- 28:11Speaker 4: got at two thousand and eight when I got so sick,
- 28:16Speaker 4: was I meditated? I did a Korea for forty days
- 28:20Speaker 4: and a Kundolini Korea, and I had a dream and
- 28:24Speaker 4: in the dream twenty eight days within of the Korea,
- 28:27Speaker 4: I had a dream that I found a doctor who
- 28:32Speaker 4: gonna solve the problem for my pain and my suffering
- 28:36Speaker 4: and my struggle. And when I got up, I felt
- 28:39Speaker 4: so good, like the disease out of my body. And
- 28:42Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, who is that doctor? And I
- 28:44Speaker 4: was like, you are the doctor. You are the guru.
- 28:49Speaker 4: I studied thirty years with all the best gurus in
- 28:52Speaker 4: the world, and you know what, the best guru is you.
- 28:56Speaker 4: And the best guru is the one who teach you
- 28:59Speaker 4: that you are You have all the answer within you.
- 29:03Speaker 4: That's the glory you should study with now. The one
- 29:06Speaker 4: would say look at me, the one would say no, no, no, home.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Home is within your body. Home is in you. I
- 29:15Speaker 4: mean that's my book. You know you're about to share
- 29:18Speaker 4: the you know mentioned about my book. My book is
- 29:21Speaker 4: about coming home. It's all about how do we come
- 29:26Speaker 4: back home? Even our suffering and struggle and everything that
- 29:31Speaker 4: happened to break our vessel apart is really to remind
- 29:36Speaker 4: us how to go back home. When you also mentioned
- 29:39Speaker 4: about the simplicity of it. Right. Our ancestor they were
- 29:43Speaker 4: doing kimchi. My mother did kimchi forever. Then I go
- 29:47Speaker 4: to the macrobiotic people and they do kimchi. Then you
- 29:51Speaker 4: go to you know, career people have a Korean restaurant.
- 29:54Speaker 4: They always did. They are you know the kimchies. You know,
- 29:57Speaker 4: you can't have a meal without kinchi. She's all full
- 30:01Speaker 4: of probiotic, right. Kombucha. I remember twenty or twenty five
- 30:05Speaker 4: years ago, I was doing making kombucha with my friend
- 30:08Speaker 4: in the kitchen. We're like working it right, so so
- 30:14Speaker 4: you know, and my kids. It's so funny because my
- 30:17Speaker 4: kids now said to me, oh my god, mom, you
- 30:19Speaker 4: were talking about kombucha twenty five years ago, like literally,
- 30:22Speaker 4: they were like babies when I was doing creating. You
- 30:26Speaker 4: know the formulation in the kitchen, and it's and I
- 30:30Speaker 4: think it's that's That's what I really love is that
- 30:34Speaker 4: I'm not teaching anything new. I'm just bringing back this wisdom.
- 30:40Speaker 4: This is five thousand years old, and all I'm doing
- 30:44Speaker 4: is and making it accessible for women and men who
- 30:49Speaker 4: are living a modern life. A woman like me who's traveling,
- 30:53Speaker 4: I have three boys, I'm busy. You know then I young,
- 30:58Speaker 4: the older you have other other things, right, You have
- 31:01Speaker 4: different things when they're young, and then you have different
- 31:03Speaker 4: things to deal with when they're older. And you know,
- 31:07Speaker 4: I have friends, I have family. You have to take
- 31:10Speaker 4: care of your community, I teach, you know. So it's
- 31:13Speaker 4: it's like, how do I maintain a balanced life and
- 31:16Speaker 4: a healthy life. So I keep going, so lifespan, so
- 31:21Speaker 4: I can really be vibrant. So like my days, you know,
- 31:26Speaker 4: started this morning with yoga. And I noticed when I
- 31:29Speaker 4: practiced yoga in the morning, I was doing one post
- 31:31Speaker 4: that was you know, shoulderstand. I do a lot of
- 31:34Speaker 4: practice of shoulderstin lately that is supported with blankets, you know,
- 31:40Speaker 4: and you know, and just relaxing and getting upside down.
- 31:47Speaker 4: And I noticed when I was doing that one asana
- 31:50Speaker 4: that I'm exhausted. That asana told me you exhausted. I
- 31:55Speaker 4: was traveling for twenty one days. You know. It was
- 31:59Speaker 4: a west coast east coast. I was training the spot
- 32:03Speaker 4: people to learn to do puncha karma and to do
- 32:06Speaker 4: actually a shore darin a bianga with those treatments, and
- 32:13Speaker 4: you know, I come back home and you're right away,
- 32:16Speaker 4: I want to keep going and doing and doing, and
- 32:19Speaker 4: you got to slow down. And that practice gave me
- 32:22Speaker 4: that Okay, your body is exhausted. She gave me the information.
- 32:26Speaker 4: So then I ate something and I went for a
- 32:29Speaker 4: little walk. It's a little cold in New York right now.
- 32:31Speaker 4: It's like, okay, I'm gonna do a brisk, cold walk.
- 32:35Speaker 4: And it's like then I was working, you know, and
- 32:38Speaker 4: then I took a break to you know, put something
- 32:42Speaker 4: on a stove in the morning that I like slow cooking.
- 32:45Speaker 4: And then I had a time at two o'clock to
- 32:47Speaker 4: eat before our meeting, and I took the time to
- 32:50Speaker 4: just sit with silence and to eat. It was like,
- 32:52Speaker 4: this is how we keep going. It's now we're going.
- 32:56Speaker 4: We're going. We're going is we're doing something, and then
- 33:01Speaker 4: we take a pause and we prepare the food and
- 33:05Speaker 4: we breathe and we walk and we do things to
- 33:08Speaker 4: keep our body healthy. That's aw yovetta. That's how you'veta.
- 33:13Speaker 4: You don't have to go anywhere else. That's how you vetta.
- 33:16Speaker 4: It's how you do everything. How you do one thing
- 33:19Speaker 4: is how you do everything. That's how you vetta.
- 33:23Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, maintaining that rhythm of life that allows you
- 33:27Speaker 3: to keep going.
- 33:29Speaker 5: It's not just go, go go, it's.
- 33:31Speaker 3: You have to actually make time for the slowing down,
- 33:34Speaker 3: as we've been talking about. And something else I wanted
- 33:37Speaker 3: to reflect to you is how you mentioned you pretty
- 33:40Speaker 3: much took a sabbatical to yourself.
- 33:42Speaker 5: When you got ill.
- 33:44Speaker 3: And I want to say that maybe people listening may
- 33:47Speaker 3: not think it's practical, you know, or they can't do
- 33:51Speaker 3: it and they're too busy, but actually what you did
- 33:55Speaker 3: is probably the best thing that anybody can do in
- 33:58Speaker 3: your situation. And it's like the people that say they
- 34:01Speaker 3: don't have time to meditate, they need meditation twice as much.
- 34:04Speaker 3: It's kind of like that saying and you know, saying
- 34:08Speaker 3: it is a lot easier than doing it. Of course,
- 34:11Speaker 3: I know from my own experience there are truly a
- 34:14Speaker 3: lot of challenges which maybe make it seem impossible to
- 34:17Speaker 3: slow down. And yet again, this is the only thing
- 34:21Speaker 3: that's actually going to help you to replenish and to
- 34:25Speaker 3: keep going, because if you don't do it on the
- 34:28Speaker 3: front end, the preventative side, you're going to have to
- 34:32Speaker 3: deal with it, you know, the consequences of continuing to
- 34:35Speaker 3: push through and burning yourself out are going to be
- 34:38Speaker 3: probably a lot worse, and we only tend to see
- 34:41Speaker 3: that in hindsight. So the message is like, we really
- 34:45Speaker 3: do have to be proactive, and so thank you for
- 34:48Speaker 3: sharing that with us.
- 34:49Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. I mean, in those in those two
- 34:53Speaker 4: three months that I took off, I was doing chostor
- 34:56Speaker 4: oil pak I put hiding pet every now I went
- 35:01Speaker 4: back and started eating. Actually, you start drinking bone broth
- 35:06Speaker 4: that I cooked and I learned because I would do
- 35:12Speaker 4: it almost every day. I learn a certain way. You know,
- 35:14Speaker 4: when you do one thing again and again and again
- 35:17Speaker 4: you perfect it. It's like the Buddhist way, right, you like,
- 35:21Speaker 4: how much salt and how much? Do you know this?
- 35:23Speaker 4: And I put these herbs, and I put parsley, and
- 35:26Speaker 4: then oh I should put deal and then oh I
- 35:28Speaker 4: heard it. You should actually be with vinegar in your
- 35:32Speaker 4: bone broad Oh actually I threw some eggs and then
- 35:36Speaker 4: the shell of the eggs have so much calcume, and
- 35:38Speaker 4: you cook it for eight hours and then oh, I
- 35:40Speaker 4: should also put bones of beef and then chicken, and
- 35:45Speaker 4: then you learn, and you just I created this incredible
- 35:48Speaker 4: formula of bone broth, and that's all I ate for
- 35:52Speaker 4: a while, literally, and because I love green juice, I
- 35:56Speaker 4: would do the green, but the green had fat in it,
- 35:59Speaker 4: because I really do believe that if you do have green.
- 36:02Speaker 4: So basically I learned I basically and that's how I
- 36:06Speaker 4: created my company. You know. Two years later, I started
- 36:09Speaker 4: basically the oils in my kitchen because I was like, okay,
- 36:13Speaker 4: you can take all those herbs and I hate when
- 36:16Speaker 4: I go to a natural path and she shoved me
- 36:18Speaker 4: with fifty you know herbs. I remember back in the days,
- 36:21Speaker 4: I was working with this couple back in Katona, and
- 36:25Speaker 4: that was just like constantly give me pills. I mean,
- 36:30Speaker 4: oh my god. I would leave home with a box
- 36:33Speaker 4: of pills and I was like, what the hell can
- 36:36Speaker 4: be that wrong with me? And twenty something years old,
- 36:39Speaker 4: like all I needed is maybe Omega three and multivitaminos.
- 36:46Speaker 4: The bees like so much stuff. So what I basically
- 36:50Speaker 4: do with my formulation is that I cooked the herbs
- 36:53Speaker 4: for like three days and we make them into teas,
- 36:56Speaker 4: and then we took cold press oil because now you've
- 36:59Speaker 4: had we use a lot of sesame oil. It's good
- 37:02Speaker 4: for the nervous system, bone, it's really really have a
- 37:05Speaker 4: potent effect on the bodies like protein. And then we
- 37:09Speaker 4: mix all of that and then I use essential oils
- 37:12Speaker 4: to make everything smells really good. And it took me
- 37:14Speaker 4: about two years basically. So after I got sick, I
- 37:17Speaker 4: was like formulating and going back and forth and figuring,
- 37:21Speaker 4: you know, how to get the right formulation. So like
- 37:25Speaker 4: the Nostra oil, the way they make it in India,
- 37:28Speaker 4: it's really really strong, and I felt like it was
- 37:30Speaker 4: way too strong. We don't need that strong. So I
- 37:32Speaker 4: kind of lower the amount of like certain things and
- 37:36Speaker 4: worked with it. That will be really good for Western
- 37:41Speaker 4: And we have one product that i've here. I happen
- 37:44Speaker 4: to have it here is the face and I cream.
- 37:47Speaker 4: It's called Sacred Saffron ros Ge. Again, my dad was
- 37:53Speaker 4: telling me people were using gee back in the old days.
- 37:56Speaker 4: We're going back to using gear around the eyes. I
- 38:00Speaker 4: created breast oil because I think it's so important for
- 38:03Speaker 4: woman health to really work on the lymphatic all around.
- 38:07Speaker 4: It's not just the breast and a nipple, it's all around,
- 38:11Speaker 4: and it's around where the time is. And you go
- 38:13Speaker 4: underneath the armpit and your massage ship and you massage yourself.
- 38:17Speaker 4: You also get connected to your body and your breast
- 38:20Speaker 4: and if something is off, trust me, your intuition in
- 38:23Speaker 4: your body would tell you when you have a connection
- 38:25Speaker 4: with your body before the doctor would even know. You know,
- 38:28Speaker 4: I'm not saying don't go to a doctor. I'm not
- 38:31Speaker 4: against western medicine whatsoever. It saved me when I was
- 38:35Speaker 4: in a critical condition, and I'm thankful for it. But
- 38:38Speaker 4: the doctors will not go with your home. You will
- 38:41Speaker 4: not be with you in your bedroom and in your bathroom,
- 38:44Speaker 4: and you're going to need to have those tools at home.
- 38:48Speaker 4: You have to have a toolbox. You have to know
- 38:50Speaker 4: your body. And that's what for me, Ayovetta is It's
- 38:54Speaker 4: just helped me connect deeper into my body, help me
- 38:59Speaker 4: have inner dialogue, investigate, investigate, learn, Investigate on your body
- 39:06Speaker 4: and your body will give you messages. And I also pray.
- 39:09Speaker 4: When I don't know something, I ask and I say,
- 39:13Speaker 4: show me. I want to know you know.
- 39:17Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, beautiful.
- 39:24Speaker 3: I really really appreciate you sharing your own steps and
- 39:30Speaker 3: how you got to formulating, and it sounds like it
- 39:34Speaker 3: was a really fun process and you first had to
- 39:37Speaker 3: do it for yourself before you can do it for
- 39:41Speaker 3: others on a larger scale. And I completely agree with that,
- 39:45Speaker 3: and that's kind of.
- 39:48Speaker 5: The point too.
- 39:48Speaker 3: Right, just having fun and sharing your light with others
- 39:52Speaker 3: and sharing your wisdom and then surrendering because we're just human.
- 39:57Speaker 5: We don't have all the answers.
- 40:00Speaker 3: You just have to trust that the right things will
- 40:02Speaker 3: come at the right time, and prayer or meditation or
- 40:07Speaker 3: any other kind of guidance or mentors you can get
- 40:10Speaker 3: along the way. Like you said, you had a lot
- 40:11Speaker 3: of teachers, So this is all truly, truly important in
- 40:15Speaker 3: everybody's journey. And I'm glad that you kept mentioning like
- 40:21Speaker 3: your dietary journey as well, because there's so many questions
- 40:25Speaker 3: around that and controversies, and you were even bringing some
- 40:29Speaker 3: stuff up today with veganism or raw juices or is
- 40:32Speaker 3: it macros or should we be having dairy and like
- 40:36Speaker 3: there's all these questions right of what's the best type
- 40:39Speaker 3: of diet? So I'm curious, you know, without opening a
- 40:43Speaker 3: whole kind of worms, what is your best dietary advice
- 40:47Speaker 3: and recommendation from an iervated perspective.
- 40:51Speaker 4: Yeah, the first thing to come to me when you
- 40:54Speaker 4: were speaking is and you say, I had a lot
- 40:56Speaker 4: of fun. It's also my opinion of that beautiful woman.
- 41:00Speaker 4: It definitely shows what's outside it's what's going on inside.
- 41:06Speaker 4: You know. Beautiful is the skin radiate you have this oja.
- 41:13Speaker 4: You know, even if you have a little bit white
- 41:15Speaker 4: in your hair and you're great, looks great. I love
- 41:18Speaker 4: women that actually don't dye the hair. I'm like, wow,
- 41:21Speaker 4: this is great. It's inspiration.
- 41:23Speaker 5: You know.
- 41:23Speaker 4: I'm working through it right now, like thank God, I'm
- 41:26Speaker 4: not that great, but I'm like, that's beauty. It's like
- 41:29Speaker 4: my you know, I don't put nail polish because I
- 41:31Speaker 4: want to see that the color of my nail show
- 41:34Speaker 4: my health. Your hair shows your health because right the
- 41:40Speaker 4: last thing that your body going to work in is
- 41:42Speaker 4: the external is your hair. So if you have something
- 41:46Speaker 4: going on in your body and your body going to
- 41:49Speaker 4: first take care of the internal before it's going to
- 41:51Speaker 4: fix the hair issue. So that just came to me
- 41:55Speaker 4: as you were speaking. As far as what I eat is,
- 42:00Speaker 4: I'm really in tune in my body enough to see
- 42:03Speaker 4: what makes me feel good. I have low blood pressure.
- 42:07Speaker 4: I'm a runner. I mean I don't run a lot,
- 42:10Speaker 4: but I'm definitely have a heart of a runner. And
- 42:14Speaker 4: that means that I can't do inversion for too long
- 42:18Speaker 4: because I will get light headed. It means and I
- 42:20Speaker 4: need a little salt in the morning, and it means
- 42:23Speaker 4: that I can have an espresso. Maybe I don't want
- 42:28Speaker 4: it the first thing in the morning, but it's not
- 42:32Speaker 4: that bad for someone like me. What really bad about it?
- 42:35Speaker 4: If I drink all day long coffee and my pitta
- 42:38Speaker 4: constitution is going to be too acidic, and it's going
- 42:41Speaker 4: to cost me irritability and my pitta my fire. I'm
- 42:45Speaker 4: already fire going to rise even higher. So the key
- 42:49Speaker 4: is I want to keep my body set thick. I
- 42:51Speaker 4: want to be pretty much in a very balanced state.
- 42:54Speaker 4: I'm not too hungry. I'm not too you know, but
- 42:57Speaker 4: it doesn't mean you have to constantly the whole snap idea.
- 43:01Speaker 4: It's your body needs a break. So I'm also conscious
- 43:05Speaker 4: of that of not overeating over indulging. I'm not against wine.
- 43:10Speaker 4: I think wine is food. Good wine once in a while,
- 43:13Speaker 4: it's great. I'm not gonna say to you, I don't
- 43:16Speaker 4: do anything. But what I do is I start to
- 43:20Speaker 4: feel if I have too much alcohol in my body,
- 43:24Speaker 4: it's very high in sugar and it's the worst thing
- 43:28Speaker 4: for people with digestive issues. That's one other thing I
- 43:31Speaker 4: discovered is in my whole research is that high sugar
- 43:36Speaker 4: is the worst thing for you, and almost everything turning
- 43:40Speaker 4: into sugar. Think about like milk, you know, turn into sugar.
- 43:45Speaker 4: So if I do decide to drink milk, I prefer
- 43:48Speaker 4: to have it raw. I prefer to have it goat milk.
- 43:53Speaker 4: I prefer to have goat cheese. It's easier to digest.
- 43:58Speaker 4: And I'm just you know, that's something I would have.
- 44:02Speaker 4: I love having green. I don't like having too much
- 44:05Speaker 4: green juices. But what it does it alkaline. You're feel
- 44:09Speaker 4: in your tongue already, like this feeling of like clean,
- 44:12Speaker 4: clean feeling in your body because you are more alkalined.
- 44:16Speaker 4: So sometimes I do drops of chlorophyll in the morning
- 44:20Speaker 4: with water because I want to I want my my acidity.
- 44:25Speaker 4: I don't want to burn. Right, What happened is we're
- 44:29Speaker 4: not gonna burn, and the body does you probably know
- 44:31Speaker 4: even better than me, And it creates a shell of
- 44:35Speaker 4: water so you don't burn your body with acidity, and
- 44:39Speaker 4: then you create more fluid in your body and then
- 44:41Speaker 4: you feel bloated. So if actually you lower your cidity
- 44:44Speaker 4: in your body, you're gonna lose three pounds like that, right,
- 44:50Speaker 4: So I don't have a lot of rules, except it's
- 44:54Speaker 4: not what I take It's not what I take away,
- 44:57Speaker 4: it's what I bring motel and what I really enjoy,
- 45:03Speaker 4: you know, having in my body. And so it's a
- 45:06Speaker 4: lot of cooked food more than raw, you know, ray
- 45:12Speaker 4: is more appropriate in the summer. And even if I
- 45:15Speaker 4: do a raw salad, I would have fat in it,
- 45:18Speaker 4: like lots of olive oils and olives and avocado, because
- 45:24Speaker 4: you want to bring the fat, you know, the fat
- 45:27Speaker 4: help helps devata decrease. Yeah, so that's basically how I
- 45:34Speaker 4: think when I travel. I be honest with you. I
- 45:37Speaker 4: eat less because a lot of it is causing a
- 45:43Speaker 4: lot of inflammation. It's a different diet, you know. And
- 45:48Speaker 4: I always think about the women in Paris that I met.
- 45:52Speaker 4: They eat almost everything, but very small amount. It's also
- 45:56Speaker 4: about the quantity, you know. You go in Europe and
- 46:01Speaker 4: you have such a small size of plates and food
- 46:05Speaker 4: because it's about tasting, and here it's a humongous amount
- 46:10Speaker 4: of food and it's too much to imparct your body.
- 46:14Speaker 4: So to be a little bit hungry is not a problem. Yeah,
- 46:19Speaker 4: just make sure you're drinking and you have the fluid
- 46:23Speaker 4: the right fluid.
- 46:25Speaker 5: I completely agree.
- 46:26Speaker 3: From an herbal perspective, the circadian rhythm is very important.
- 46:31Speaker 3: Just like we were saying, you have to rest between
- 46:34Speaker 3: go go go, you also have to allow your body
- 46:36Speaker 3: to rest and digest and to allow it to even
- 46:39Speaker 3: get hungry rather than just stuffing it with a whole
- 46:43Speaker 3: bunch of quantity of food at the wrong times of
- 46:48Speaker 3: day and then snacking in between. That's way more important
- 46:52Speaker 3: than actually what you're eating. And then when it comes
- 46:55Speaker 3: down to what it is, there's ways to navigate what
- 46:58Speaker 3: are the healthful foods, and then the form it's in,
- 47:01Speaker 3: like you said, the raw versus cooked. And I tend
- 47:04Speaker 3: to also recommend a lot of stews and cook foods
- 47:08Speaker 3: and broths and soups for my clients because I feel
- 47:12Speaker 3: like it's not enough in anybody's diet from the people
- 47:16Speaker 3: that I see. So if you weren't raised that way,
- 47:19Speaker 3: if you didn't come to learn erbalism in this way,
- 47:23Speaker 3: you know, most people don't bat an eye lash about it.
- 47:28Speaker 3: But these are the factors that are truly, truly important,
- 47:30Speaker 3: And like you said, like pairing the right types of
- 47:33Speaker 3: food as well, which is a little bit of the
- 47:35Speaker 3: macro concept. But you know, just optimizing digestion so that
- 47:40Speaker 3: we can actually get the most benefits and the least
- 47:43Speaker 3: amount of detriment from the specific foods. And then on
- 47:47Speaker 3: the topic of herbalism, you were also sharing that when
- 47:52Speaker 3: you were prescribed a lots of herbal products that was
- 47:55Speaker 3: also taxing on the body. And I also agree that's
- 47:58Speaker 3: why I love putting it in and teas and tinctures
- 48:01Speaker 3: like we've been talking about. And then the topical oils
- 48:04Speaker 3: offer the best delivery system that you know, you don't
- 48:07Speaker 3: have to keep popping things even though of course they're
- 48:10Speaker 3: healthier than like popping drugs, but it can still be
- 48:15Speaker 3: taxing again on your organs of metabolism and detoxification. So
- 48:20Speaker 3: it's it's very genious right for a reason the way
- 48:23Speaker 3: that we have topical total and iron oiling.
- 48:28Speaker 4: And oiling, like my job is to teach people how
- 48:31Speaker 4: to oil like oil your body like you know, oil
- 48:36Speaker 4: internal oils. It's the opposite of what American diet is exactly.
- 48:41Speaker 4: But I would never go and buy zero percent yoburt
- 48:46Speaker 4: I just wouldn't or milk, same like drink white protein.
- 48:50Speaker 4: It's better, right, Like what are you doing? And it's
- 48:54Speaker 4: just like they have nothing in it. I actually really
- 48:57Speaker 4: enjoy having fat. I was in California, Sons of Barbara
- 49:00Speaker 4: for a punch of karma training, and I went to
- 49:05Speaker 4: the one of the local supermarket and I had raw
- 49:11Speaker 4: dairy and it was ro Claton. My girlfriend was a
- 49:14Speaker 4: Naiveta girl. She put like the raw like a small
- 49:18Speaker 4: raw cream and I was like, oh my god, like
- 49:24Speaker 4: a spoon of that with a little raspberry. I was
- 49:26Speaker 4: like in heaven, like, yeah, it's indulgent for me, like
- 49:32Speaker 4: raw dairy. It was delicious. It was so sweet, and
- 49:36Speaker 4: I was like, that's what I'm saying. I'm not I
- 49:38Speaker 4: don't have like rules. I hate rules. As soon as
- 49:40Speaker 4: you give me rules and tell me I should go
- 49:42Speaker 4: on the diet, I eat so much more. Yeah.
- 49:47Speaker 3: I think that the fat misconception versus the sugar that
- 49:51Speaker 3: we also mentioned is such a huge topic, and fat.
- 49:55Speaker 4: Sugar is a problem. Fat is not a problem. If
- 49:57Speaker 4: you have a good fat is oh and so are
- 50:00Speaker 4: done fat. And by the way, if you have fat
- 50:03Speaker 4: in your diet, you'll be skinnier because you won't have
- 50:06Speaker 4: the hunger. People are hungry, so they eat something too
- 50:11Speaker 4: immediately because they're constantly hungry and they're not fed. And
- 50:15Speaker 4: my whole thing is that we have so many sickness
- 50:18Speaker 4: around us, and I know you know that there's so
- 50:21Speaker 4: much sickness. Is all I'm saying is bringing people back
- 50:24Speaker 4: home eating good food, fats, healthy fat, internal and external
- 50:30Speaker 4: oil your body. And my whole mission is really like
- 50:34Speaker 4: in the next couple of months, but coming up with
- 50:36Speaker 4: subscription where we're going to make it affordable. So people
- 50:39Speaker 4: are going to have a box, and in the box
- 50:41Speaker 4: you're going to have the tongue script and the nostril
- 50:45Speaker 4: and the silk gloves to massage the lymphatic system and
- 50:49Speaker 4: warming the oil. And there's no way you're not going
- 50:52Speaker 4: to be able to do it. You're gonna get the
- 50:53Speaker 4: videos and you're gonna get the audible and you're basically
- 50:56Speaker 4: going to go with me on a journey where I
- 50:58Speaker 4: teach you, because that's what I'm getting a lot like,
- 51:01Speaker 4: how do I start becoming and ivet a geek?
- 51:07Speaker 3: Well, it's been an absolute pleasure to have this conversation Aussie.
- 51:12Speaker 3: If you just have one more minute, I'd love to
- 51:14Speaker 3: do a little rapid round with you. All right, So
- 51:18Speaker 3: what's your number one advice for people that are looking
- 51:21Speaker 3: to improve their quality of life right now.
- 51:28Speaker 4: I mean I obviously sleep, and I would say drinking
- 51:33Speaker 4: like now coming into the fall season, you know, fill
- 51:36Speaker 4: up at termos with hot water and sip of it
- 51:39Speaker 4: all day. That would be an incredible start. And if
- 51:43Speaker 4: you can oil a couple of days a week, great, great.
- 51:47Speaker 3: And then real quick, we started this conversation with puncha karmas,
- 51:51Speaker 3: so can you just walk us very quickly?
- 51:53Speaker 5: What are those five steps puncha Karma?
- 51:56Speaker 4: Yes, I would say that oiling the body some of
- 52:01Speaker 4: it is basically you know, if you start, if you're
- 52:04Speaker 4: doing punch a Karma home, you basically didn't have to
- 52:07Speaker 4: take off all the stimulant and he'd cooked warm diet
- 52:11Speaker 4: with soups. Stay away from meat for the week, stay
- 52:16Speaker 4: away from alcohol, coffee just for one week. If you
- 52:19Speaker 4: have to have the coffee, just do green tea instead,
- 52:23Speaker 4: and start oiling the body on your daily basis. The
- 52:27Speaker 4: you know, maybe buy the Manifest or the Shine body oil,
- 52:31Speaker 4: oil your whole body, get the hair oil, oil your head,
- 52:35Speaker 4: you know, put planel on your belly with hot packs
- 52:38Speaker 4: with the belly oil that I have that are castoro
- 52:41Speaker 4: in it, and just start punching karma at home, make
- 52:45Speaker 4: lots of soup for the whole week, drink lots of
- 52:48Speaker 4: hot water, lots of vegetables that are in season would
- 52:53Speaker 4: be wonderful, and cook them. You know, last last night
- 52:56Speaker 4: it took wild d m. I put coconut water some
- 52:59Speaker 4: salt in the oven and that was like such a delicious,
- 53:03Speaker 4: you know, dessert. And you don't need to be hungry. Actually,
- 53:09Speaker 4: when you eat, you lose weight.
- 53:12Speaker 5: Great, great message.
- 53:13Speaker 3: And what's a fun hobby or some fun fact about yourself.
- 53:20Speaker 4: Oh, I'm just super passionate about life. I mean, partially,
- 53:26Speaker 4: I'm so excited. I can't wait to publish my book
- 53:29Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six and six, and you know, I'm
- 53:32Speaker 4: working on one chapter of that to do a one
- 53:36Speaker 4: woman show. And I just constantly like to be in
- 53:41Speaker 4: a creative field. So I'm just I get excited. And yeah,
- 53:47Speaker 4: I love I love reading new things, and I love
- 53:50Speaker 4: to hike, and I'm a rock climber and I'm a
- 53:53Speaker 4: new surfer but I do that too. Yeah, amazing.
- 53:58Speaker 5: I tried surfing for the first time this year.
- 54:00Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's really fun to just be on
- 54:04Speaker 3: the edge of your comfort zone.
- 54:05Speaker 5: I would say and try new things.
- 54:08Speaker 3: So au Sie, please tell our listeners how they can
- 54:11Speaker 3: learn more about your wonderful oils and the subscription model
- 54:15Speaker 3: that you mentioned and get in touch with you.
- 54:17Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. So it's super simple. My name is
- 54:20Speaker 4: O C O s I and our company is ocoils
- 54:24Speaker 4: dot com. I'm also on Instagram oc oils and on
- 54:29Speaker 4: my personal is oc dot Miss Rachi m I z
- 54:33Speaker 4: r A Hi. And we're going to have a lot
- 54:36Speaker 4: of free things that we're going to offer two people
- 54:40Speaker 4: to come on journey with me and all the subscriber're
- 54:42Speaker 4: going to get once a month question and answer with me.
- 54:45Speaker 4: And I'm super available, and that's what differentiate my brand
- 54:49Speaker 4: from other brands. You get to know the founder and
- 54:53Speaker 4: any affiliate to join our company, all of them met me.
- 54:58Speaker 4: So that's that's that's the key for me is to
- 55:02Speaker 4: really be available and share as much as I can
- 55:06Speaker 4: of all those great practices.
- 55:10Speaker 5: Great. Well, again, it was a pleasure to have you on.
- 55:13Speaker 3: And you're offering the listeners a special discount as well.
- 55:18Speaker 3: So anybody who enters row Work twenty you'll be in
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- 55:25Speaker 3: and I'm excited to hear where this unfolds and to
- 55:29Speaker 3: read your book when it comes out.
- 55:31Speaker 4: So thank you, greating you too, thank you.
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