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Broncos vs Commanders NFL DFS Showdown | Week 13 SNF | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 2: football breakdown. Here, got my guy Ham in the booth
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  Speaker 2: with me today breakdown this, uh, what seems to be
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  Speaker 2: a pretty gross game here on the Sunday goes with
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  Speaker 2: the theme of these Sunday overall slate of games, right,
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  Speaker 2: it feels pretty gross obviously when you do have the
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  Speaker 2: split the Black Friday game and then the Thanksgiving games
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  Speaker 2: where you have some of the top tier teams in
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  Speaker 2: the league facing off, you get a pretty water down
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  Speaker 2: overall Sunday slate of games, and it feels like that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be this case here Denver traveling to Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Forty three and a half is the total.
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  Speaker 2: Six and a half point favorites are Denver on the
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  Speaker 2: road here Washington obviously still without Jaden Daniels. Looks like
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  Speaker 2: Jadon Daniels is primed to play Week fourteen, which is
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  Speaker 2: next week against the Vikings there, but it will be
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  Speaker 2: Mariota here up against the league's number one overall defense
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  Speaker 2: in terms of yards allowed, things like that, fantasy numbers,
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  Speaker 2: everything like that. Denver has been pretty stifling defense at
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  Speaker 2: that but heym I'll bring you in man.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Sunday. What's going on, brother, Yeah, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully we can get this one, nail this one as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: We got a interesting game the Broncos, similar to the
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  Speaker 4: Eagles the other day that you know, the no way
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  Speaker 4: they can lose the Commanders, especially on the road. Alex
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  Speaker 4: Singleton cancer survivor. So man, that's great to see him back.
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  Speaker 4: He only missed you know, two or three games. I
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  Speaker 4: think that's some big news linebacker. You get defensive player
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  Speaker 4: of the Year Patrick Sartan back in the fold, and
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  Speaker 4: you get the goat Marcus Mara Gota in there as well,
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  Speaker 4: former Tennessee Titan. Great love to see him out there.
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  Speaker 4: He's in a tough matchup Nates looking forward to breaking
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  Speaker 4: it all down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very tough match up here, and it's gonna feel
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  Speaker 2: that it's gonna be kind of common theme throughout the
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  Speaker 2: show here that we're gonna talk about when we're trying
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  Speaker 2: to break down right the Washington side of this game.
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  Speaker 2: brun slate overw here, just real quick off the top,
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  Speaker 2: and you see stack exposures. I go to team stacks here,
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  Speaker 2: go to five stacks, and you're looking at in one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bills just as kind of an average
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  Speaker 2: of productions and ownership. Right now, you're seeing about fifty
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  Speaker 2: five to one builds all of Denver.
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  Speaker 1: More of the same case.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that was the same exact case that we
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  Speaker 2: saw Friday night when I ran the teams, right when
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  Speaker 2: you were getting a bunch of five ones the non
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  Speaker 2: Bears bears way right, so kind of Bears would be
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  Speaker 2: looked at as kind of Washington in this game.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I don't think it's quite.
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  Speaker 2: As easy of a take like I had on Friday,
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  Speaker 2: right to play the running backs there and just I
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  Speaker 2: saw a pretty easy way to attack that game. It's
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  Speaker 2: not the case here man Washington with Mariota there. The
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  Speaker 2: only thing I will say that is going for them
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  Speaker 2: is it is in Washington and it's not in Denver.
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  Speaker 2: That does make somewhat of a difference here, at least
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, And I think that's why you see
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  Speaker 2: the eighteen implied team total there for the Commanders.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you see here?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously it's going to be very Denver heavy in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the captain and overall roster construction four two and
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  Speaker 2: five to one five one is going to be twenty
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  Speaker 2: five to thirty percent owned again in Denver's favor.
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  Speaker 1: Along with that Denver defense.
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  Speaker 2: What do you see here though as kind of a
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  Speaker 2: broad slate and then take us into the captains here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, both teams coming off a week twelve by so
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  Speaker 4: they should be fully rested. We do get whatever his
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  Speaker 4: nickname is, Terry McLaurin back in the fall tonight for
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  Speaker 4: Mariota to throw too, but like we said earlier, you
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  Speaker 4: also get certandback. Denver's defense seems to be fairly healthy there.
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  Speaker 4: It's tough Nake, just tough to find fat Debo, you know,
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  Speaker 4: any other commander like getting up top in this one.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's just gonna be a smash mouth grind
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  Speaker 4: grind it out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I like Denver.
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  Speaker 4: I have to kind of agree with what what you
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  Speaker 4: you know, what you're showing here in the dry run.
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  Speaker 4: So to me, yeah, it's Denver. I'm gonna play this
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  Speaker 4: game for Denver to win, and probably went convincing convincingly Nate,
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  Speaker 4: So what does that mean to me? I do like
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  Speaker 4: Denver's defense. I'll even take some shots on him and
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  Speaker 4: the Captain if I'm playing ten plus teams. The thing
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  Speaker 4: with the other thing, though, Neids, is that it's it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of like wide receiver slashed, running back slash tight
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  Speaker 4: and Roulette with the Broncos too, right, So that makes
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  Speaker 4: me love bo Nicks up in the Captain.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to be a secret to anybody.
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  Speaker 4: You see it there as well, but he has rushing
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  Speaker 4: upside and then he's not afraid to pass four touchdowns
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  Speaker 4: to four different guys, So like bow Knicks up top,
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  Speaker 4: like the Broncos a lot, it's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 4: of five to ones, a lot of four two's for
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  Speaker 4: me in this matchup.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I like some of what you're saying there.
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  Speaker 2: I'll kind of start with the command here. I think
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  Speaker 2: a guy like Deebo Samuel up top is fairly interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I have to assume Terry McLaurin being back is only
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  Speaker 2: going to help Deebo Samuel there. Terry at twelve k
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  Speaker 2: seems like an easier click and ownership would suggest that
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  Speaker 2: obviously neither of these guys are really going to get
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  Speaker 2: two owned there. But you're seeing about ten percent on
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  Speaker 2: Mariota at three hundred dollars more. Obviously Bonnicks is going
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  Speaker 2: to be the chalkiest guy on the slate in particular,
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  Speaker 2: and then you're seeing let me just get rid of
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  Speaker 2: these other guys. You're seeing guys like Troy Franklin, r J. Harvey, Courtland,
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  Speaker 2: Sutton command more ownership Deebo Sandwich between all of them,
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  Speaker 2: and with McLaurin being back, I have to assume he
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  Speaker 2: takes the Pats retain assignment on the outside, which could
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  Speaker 2: increase the floor and the potential ceiling for a guy
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  Speaker 2: like Deebo, which I know it hasn't been great, but
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  Speaker 2: as a different angle than what the field is going
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  Speaker 2: to attack this as, I think Diebo's a pretty interesting option,
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  Speaker 2: especially up top in the captain position there and definitely
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  Speaker 2: in the flax. I prefer him much more over Terry
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  Speaker 2: McLaurin and back, and then zach Ertz as well. I
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  Speaker 2: think he could play up top in a game environment
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  Speaker 2: where you need some more of these guys in the flex.
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  Speaker 2: Right bonis at eleven k in the flex, Deebo Samuel
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  Speaker 2: tenk who I like Sutton ninety eight hundred, Troy Franken
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  Speaker 2: eighty eight hundred, Harvey eighty four hundred. You do have
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  Speaker 2: some higher priced options here in the flex in general.
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  Speaker 2: So I think the two options I would have from
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  Speaker 2: the Washington side of things would be zach Ertz, which
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  Speaker 2: is the best spot to target Denver if there was
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  Speaker 2: a spot to target Denver against would be the tight end.
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  Speaker 2: So I think zach Ertz and Deebo Samuel make the
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  Speaker 2: most sense up top for myself, not really getting to Mariota,
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  Speaker 2: I think Bo Nicks is fine up there. I do
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  Speaker 2: struggle with b Neex a little bit. I think if
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  Speaker 2: Bonex gets there, I think it's more done with his legs.
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  Speaker 2: In this matchup, Washington does put a lot of pressure
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  Speaker 2: on the opposing quarterbacks. For as bad as their defense is,
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  Speaker 2: we haven't seen a ton of ceiling performances against the
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  Speaker 2: Washington from opposing quarterbacks in general. So I think Bonix,
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  Speaker 2: if he gets there up top, it is with his
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  Speaker 2: legs more so. So for me, it's Troy Franklin is
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  Speaker 2: kind of my favorite overall Denver play. I just he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of emerged as wide receiver one in this offense
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  Speaker 2: has kind of overtaken Sutton.
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  Speaker 1: The ownership is going to swing that way.
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  Speaker 2: So you could obviously do the counter argument to that
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  Speaker 2: point and just go back to Courtland Sutton here, but
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  Speaker 2: with the salary savings, I'll go Troy Franklin over Sutton.
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  Speaker 2: But for me, it's gonna be again deebo zach Ertz,
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  Speaker 2: Troy Franklin, a little bit of Sutton, and then I
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  Speaker 2: think bo Nicks are kind of the main guys that
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at.
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  Speaker 1: R J. Harvey, I think is fine.
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  Speaker 2: I just think you're kind of looking for striking lightning
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  Speaker 2: in a bottle there in general, and I just think
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna see a lot of R. J.
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  Speaker 1: Harvey Broncos defense type builds, which I don't love.
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  Speaker 2: In general, just going with the rest of the field
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  Speaker 2: there him any additional captain takes here before we jump
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  Speaker 2: over and talk to flex here in general.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, I think so. I think the one
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  Speaker 4: area where we disagree. I do have a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of interest in R J.
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  Speaker 1: Harvey up there.
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  Speaker 4: Sixty one percent of the snaps last time, uh, in
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  Speaker 4: a game they should control. I think they should get
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  Speaker 4: a lot of opportunities, So I have a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more interest in R. J. Harvey.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like than you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's jump over talk the Flex here.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterbacks Bonix Marcus Mariota. Mariota at ten two is fairly expensive.
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  Speaker 2: He is commanding a decent amount of ownership there, I
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  Speaker 2: mean fifty plus percent owned. No surprise there, good game
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  Speaker 2: script for him at home here. What's your take on Mariota?
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to be underweight that number? That is
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  Speaker 2: a pretty high number, assuming that they're implied to only
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  Speaker 2: score eighteen points here. Obviously things can change for a hurry.
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  Speaker 2: I have to assume that most are leaning obviously bo
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  Speaker 2: Nicks over Mariota up here. But what's your take in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the quarterbacks here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously bo Nicks is going to be ahead of
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  Speaker 4: of Mariota. But Mariota back to back, I think, what
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  Speaker 4: fifteen plus point games and that, you know, even if
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  Speaker 4: it is a blowout and he gets that, I mean
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  Speaker 4: that's gonna be the highest zone or not high zone,
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  Speaker 4: the most points by a Commander player. So I like him.
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  Speaker 4: He has rushing upside as well to Boot. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you talked a little bit about Debo. I don't really
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  Speaker 4: like Debo, but he can throw a little slip screen
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  Speaker 4: to Debo, and we've seen in the past the Debo
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  Speaker 4: can take that's seventy yards to the house. Obviously, Debo
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  Speaker 4: gets those points with SODA's Mariota, So I think Mariota
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  Speaker 4: is in play.
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  Speaker 1: For me.
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  Speaker 4: It's more of a flex spot though than putting him
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  Speaker 4: up top. But yeah, I think he's squarely in play
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  Speaker 4: in this one, especially if you're going like five to one,
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  Speaker 4: don't I don't hate Mariota as that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely there take us over to the running
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  Speaker 2: back position here, obviously, RJ howevery is gonna lead the
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  Speaker 2: ownership gonna be one of the highest on plays on
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  Speaker 2: the slate in both the captain in the flex here
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  Speaker 2: at eighty four hundred six and a half point favorites here,
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  Speaker 2: plus matchup against Washington in terms of running overall, not
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  Speaker 2: a ton of work behind him, right, McLoughlin doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: get much much work at all. Tyler Baddy would probably
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  Speaker 2: be the only other guy that's really gonna kind of
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  Speaker 2: spell Harvey. I think you could play them both together
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  Speaker 2: obviously at these salaries, and that could be a way
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  Speaker 2: to play it in differently. But on the Washington side,
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  Speaker 2: you got a three headed monster here with McNichols, Rodriguez
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  Speaker 2: and krossky Merritt. I think the best play from overall,
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  Speaker 2: I think on one of the best players overall from
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  Speaker 2: the Washington side would be Jeremy McNichols, just with this
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  Speaker 2: touch floor in the passing game, right, the dump offs,
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  Speaker 2: things like that. But what do you see here from
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  Speaker 2: the running back position in general?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's stay on the Washington side. You said the
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  Speaker 3: best three headed monster.
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  Speaker 4: They did have twenty seven rushes to their last game
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  Speaker 4: in week eleven, so we know what we know the
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  Speaker 4: script that they're gonna do, especially against this high powered
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  Speaker 4: I would call it high power, but I'd say it's
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  Speaker 4: a good a good team in the Broncos.
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  Speaker 3: They want to play keepway for bow knicks.
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna play ground and ground and pounds, smash mouth football, Bill,
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  Speaker 4: my boy, Bill Jakowski Merritt, he is a little higher
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  Speaker 4: or higher than Rodriguez in my opinion, Aid's interested here
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  Speaker 4: would you take? I think Rodriguez has kind of taken
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  Speaker 4: the little RB one action away from from Krosskey Merritt. Now,
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  Speaker 4: Merritt still did have nine carries last week. But Rodriguez,
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  Speaker 4: I Felix is their goal line back, and at sixty
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  Speaker 4: four hundred, I would have him, you know, as my
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  Speaker 4: number one Washington running back. If you're building those game
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  Speaker 4: scripts like we talked about where Denver is going to
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  Speaker 4: get out to a lead, certainly agree with you with McNichols.
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  Speaker 4: Mc nichols is kind of there's two minute back, third
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  Speaker 4: down back. He can certainly rack up you know, six
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  Speaker 4: seven catches and you're going to need him.
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  Speaker 3: Then on the flip side, I love R. J.
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  Speaker 1: Harvey.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, offensive lines very good for the Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: Sixty one percent of the snaps last week, eleven rushing attempts.
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  Speaker 4: He's also gonna catch it in the air as well.
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  Speaker 4: He kind of split the third down roll with whatever
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  Speaker 4: his name is, Tyler, Batti, Batty, whatever you want to
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  Speaker 4: call him. So I really like RJ. Harvey and that
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  Speaker 4: would kind of be the extent of the running backs
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  Speaker 4: for Denver for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Chris Rodriguez, the process suggests he's RB one
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  Speaker 2: in this offense. Now we kind of saw that last
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  Speaker 2: week there. I don't have interest in either one of
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  Speaker 2: j CM or Rodriguez. I'm fine just full fading them
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  Speaker 2: and saying, hey, the twenty percent of the field or
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  Speaker 2: so that's going to play them, which may be.
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  Speaker 1: A little high. I get it.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna be loaned. It's just a terrible, terrible matchup
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  Speaker 2: against Denver. It's not I don't feel the same that
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  Speaker 2: I did Friday right with the with the Bears running backs.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was a much better spot to attack.
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  Speaker 2: It was actually a good off a good spot. Running
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  Speaker 2: backs were actually doing pretty good against Philly in general.
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  Speaker 2: Not the case here against the Broncos. I mean, Jackson
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  Speaker 2: Dart seven point one rushing points, was the most Denver's
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  Speaker 2: allowed all season. And again, Jackson Dart I think is
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  Speaker 2: much more explosive than Rodriguez or krossky Merritt. So again
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  Speaker 2: takes me back to McNichols being my favorite guy in general,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna get there. More so if
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  Speaker 2: he does get there in the passing game. Overall, r J.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey not much more to say. Great play by far,
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  Speaker 2: by far away the best running back play on the slate,
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  Speaker 2: one of the overall best plays on the slate by far.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said in Ownership, is gonna also lean that way,
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  Speaker 2: not gonna really mess with these other guys. I think
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Baddie in I mean Denver onslought type builds.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can get there, but again it feels pretty.
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  Speaker 1: It's for me. It's r J. Harvey and Jeremy Nickels are.
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  Speaker 2: The two running back plays that I have interest in myself,
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  Speaker 2: running back or wide receiver. Again, Deebo talked about him.
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  Speaker 2: He's up at ten k in general. Terry McLaurin, I
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  Speaker 2: believe it is going to be back in this game
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  Speaker 2: for sure, but again watch for inactives there coming off
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  Speaker 2: the buy.
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  Speaker 1: He should be all right. To play here.
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  Speaker 2: You got Courtland Sutton ninety eight hundred, try Franklin one
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Cheaper ownership is definitely gonna lean more so
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  Speaker 2: in Franklin side. And all it takes is one game
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  Speaker 2: to a flip, and everybody knows what the numbers say.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody has seen what the what the snaps in the
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  Speaker 2: in the real participation in the in the targets, and
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  Speaker 2: all of that have been over the last couple of
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  Speaker 2: games with Troy Franklin compared to Courtland Sutton. Is this
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: a spot where you want to flip and go back
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: to a guy like Courtland Sutton here? Or are you
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: still riding on uh Troy Franklin in a game where
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: the spread would indicate they don't have to pass a
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: ton in general?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Here? But what do you see from the wide receiver position?
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you kind of nailed it right. There's
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: three Broncos receivers.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: You're gonna play Bryant, Uh Sutton and and Franklin Marvin Mims.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think you mentioned Marvin Mims. Maybe did, but
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I think he's more of like a gadget play. He
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: got no targets. He's more of a if you wanted
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: a double dip maybe and go, uh Broncos defense and
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: mims and hope he gets returns upon. I mean, you're
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: you're stretching it there, but so no mams for me. Man,
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: It's tough to play these Broncos. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Commander's receivers made so man, Deebo McLaurin and and your
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: boy the chosen one Like.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: It's tough. It's tough to play those guys.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: You know, I know you said you'll full fade the
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: running backs for Washington. I'm I'm fine full fading the
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: the Commanders wide receivers in this one.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely won't full fake because I'm probably not
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: going to be playing any five ones again here. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: just never really play five to one, especially when it's
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: going to be popular like it is on this late.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: The time to play, really play five ones is when
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: nobody's doing it and you just say, hey, one team
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: is just gonna kind of steamroll the other, which the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: spread would obviously indicate here, and projections and ownership and everything.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, would also indicate here.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: So that's not a spot where I really want to
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: tap in and play five ones I want to talk
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: about the Pat Bryant here. Pat Bryant coming off the buy,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I think gets more involvement. We've seen sixty four percent
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: ral chare and five catches for eighty two yards and
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: that Week eleven matchup there, so I think he is
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: an interesting play.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: It's definitely likely that him and.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Him and Marvin Mims are gonna split the split the
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: snaps there. I think they're just gonna lean more into
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: a guy like Pat Bryan, I think, especially coming off
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the buy in general, so I think he's a pretty
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: solid value play at his price point there. Troy Franklin
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: runs majority of the routes in the slot, and that's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: really where you want to target Washington the most. Is
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: those slot receivers ran fifty percent of his routes last
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: week in the slot, has seen eight plus targets in
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: five consecutive games, so obviously very very good play. I
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: would lean Troy Franklin just like everybody else. But again,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: don't forget about Courtland Sutton. I think Cortland Sutton's ownership
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: here is gonna be criminally low compared to that of
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Troy Franklin. Here, I could I wouldn't be shocked if
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton here came in below twenty five percent and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you see Troy Franklin come up to around forty percent
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: or so, so you take some for someting give it
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: right to Franklin. I think that's a very very viable option.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Are very realistic scenario right, that can pan out leading
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: up to lockear So Sutton Franklin both great plays. Pat
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Bryant at thirty two hundred, I think is really really
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: nice value play. He's gonna be owned, But these guys
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: still get held in check, especially with the defenses and
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: the kickers. For a little bit more on the Washington side,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel is my favorite guy just with that touch floor.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I think there Mariot is going to have to get
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: the ball up quick, is going to be under pressure
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: dump offs to guys like McNichols, Deebo, Samuel, zach Ertz
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: across the middle of the field. So I think Deebo's
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: my second favorite overall pass catcher on the slate. Once
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: we get to zach Ertz, I'll talk about him. I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: like him a lot. And then I think a guy
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: like Chris Moore at twenty eight hundred. The reason being
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: is he has gotten if they do get to the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: red zone, he has shown red zone targets and he's
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: twenty eight hundred. Nobody's gonna play him. So if there
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: was a spot there, I think going to a guy
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: like Chris Moore, who who again is kind of the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: red zone guy behind Deebo, Samuel and zach Ertz on
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: this team. So for me, it's d Bell, it's Chris Moore,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: it's from the Washington side. Not really messing with guys
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: like Jayalen Lane, Terry McLaurin. I'm under on much. Rather
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: just play Troy Frankin or drop down in safe salary
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and then not messing with much of Treylon Burke's at
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: one K personally myself. Let's jump over and talk the
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: tight ends here. I alluded to liking zach Ertz a
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: ton here. If there was a spot to target, it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: still not great, but it is the best spot on
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the field right now to target.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Denver against is tight ends.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Zach Ertz seven K, expensive price point to pay, props
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: are good, and I think he's fine. He's obviously shown
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: tons of connections there with a guy like Mariota and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: in a catch up type script right where the spread
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: winning K six and a half point dogs. Here you
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: could see a lot of dump offs or across the
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: middle short conversion chunk plays right when Denver's kind of
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: playing a little bit softer, and that can lead to
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of PPR and a lot of yards overall.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: For a guy like zach Ertz, what do you see
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: here from the ted end position?
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that Chris Moore gets a zero. I
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: can pretty much guarantee that Chris Moore's terrible. I do
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: not like zach Ertz either. Evan Ingram, let's talk Evan Ingram,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Let's talk Adam Troutman. I'm out on Troutman. He plays
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: a bunch they don't throw on the ball. Evan Ingram
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: rarely plays about half the time they do throw him
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: the ball at forty six hundred and ads, what do
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: you think of Ingram? To me, Ingram's the only only
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: viable one the Ageles wonder. Zach Ertz love the story,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: but man seven K for that guy, I guess you
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: could make a case where he could just get peppered.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: But I'm out on ert So what's your take on Ingram?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: In here? What you have?
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I don't love Ingram because he's hardly ever out there.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: But when he's out there, you know he's gonna run
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: routes and you know they're gonna throwing the ball. So
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Ingram would be where where I'd ask you, Yeah, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: don't mind Ingram.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: He's got four three red zone targets in the last
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: four weeks. He's a big body, right, big guy. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: if they are in the red zone, if it's not
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: going to a guy like r. J. Harvey or Troy Franklin,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: who's the other red zones threat? Evan Ingram is the
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: guy right or obviously Bo Knicks could run it in himself.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: But I think Ingram and Troy Franklin are there two
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: guys that they like the most in the red zone Sutton.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Sutton's right there too, But for me, it's Ingram and
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: zach Ertz. The reason I like zach Ertz a little
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: bit more than you is again, I don't like those
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Washington running backs in that same range there, so I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: gonna have to play someone. Zach Ertz projecting run around
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: twenty percent ownership. I'll be over the field there and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: feel pretty good. Like I said, I think the way
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Washington is gonna try and attack Denver here is over
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the middle, chuck short chunk type plays because you can't
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: really beat them deep on the seams. So I think
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: that leads more to guys like Zach Ertz, Deebo, Samuel
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and McNichols overall. So that's kind of the way I'm
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: attacking this slate, not really playing Baits, Sinat or Troutman
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: any of those guys. It's just Ertz and Ingram. For me,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I'll be higher on Ertz overall than Ingram. Kickers and
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: defense to round us out here, man, I mean you're
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: talking probably again thirty to thirty five percent ownership on
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Broncos defense all the way up at fifty four. That
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: is a hefty price point to pay, but again, good
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: defense in general.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: They are on the road here.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: But it's still Marcus Marioto on the other side, Will
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Lutz Jake Moody, two solid kickers here.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm both gonna get owned.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Will UT's gonna be probably close to forty percent in
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, just because again it goes back
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: to everybody wants to play bank the Denver side, and
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: he's a good kicker coming off a big, big game,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: right eighteen points, but before then hasn't cracked ten points
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: all season, So naturally what happened in week eleven has
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: to happen in week thirteen, and will Uts is going
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to score fifteen plus DraftKings points here. I would much
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: rather play Jake Moody, who the two games that he
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: kicked this year sixteen and fourteen overall. Obviously on a
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: different team, but we know Jake Moody does have a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: big lake here feels kind of gross playing an underdog kicker,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: but at forty eight hundred with the ownership discount, and
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you do have to play someone or a couple of
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: people at least from Washington. I think Jake Moody's fine,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: not really playing much Commanders, and I'll be underweight.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: On the Broncos. But when do you see your special teams?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Broncos.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Like I said earlier, I'll even have some of them
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: up top and just playing, you know, a typical Broncos
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: game as of late ten, seven thirteen to seven type
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: of fair that we saw in that gross Thursday Night game. Yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: you said, no Commander's aids, but what about if we
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: get just bad bow and it is that it is
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: that Raiders ten to seven game where he has a
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: couple of sacks a couple of turnovers at thirty four hundred. Uh,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: you know we always talk it only takes one right,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: and he's priced right there with Pat. Brian's gonna get
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: some ownership. I don't think the Commanders are the worst
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: play even even in a boat bow Nicks even captain team,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: just because you know he could he could throw two
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: or run two and and and have two or three turnovers.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: So I don't hate that. Doesn't sound like you like that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: And then kickers are always so tough.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're you're hoping for field goals, which
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: is just like taking the under in my opinion.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Uh, but I think I think let Lutz has a
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: leg up on Moody. I mean, I've seen too many
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Moody wide rights in San Francisco nads.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just, uh, I'm just scarred by that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I guess I want to click on his name.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, overall, I don't love the Kickers at this
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: kind of ownership much. I'd rather take a shot at
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: some of those skilled position guys or those cheaper guys. Overall, Broncos,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I get it there, But again, I just think they're
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: going to be higher on than what they should be,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: especially the way we've seen some of these gross games
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: go in general, in these primetime type games. So I
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: get it Commanders, I just can't get behind. I mean,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: they had three sacks against Tua, who can't scramble or
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: move the pocket at all. They had three sacks there,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: scored four fantasy points. I mean, they could happen, I guess.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I just I think Bonnicks is mobile enough to at
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: least elude the pressure there in general and get it
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: done with his legs. So for me, it's really the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Kickers are my two favorites of any of these guys,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: and lean more through.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Towards Moody overall of the four here.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: But I don't love much from either any of these
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: special teams, even though I do think this game goes
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: under and I think it's like a seventeen to ten,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: seventeen to fourteen type game here, I think, or twenty
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to twenty to fourteen something like that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I think it goes under the total.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I think the Broncos do win, but I think the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Commanders at least hanging somewhat in the game. At least
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to be able to find maybe two or three of
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: these guys to to find in my team. So more
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: so like a four to two Denver type build or
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a three to three type build where most people want
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: to go four to Denver, or a five to one
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Denver overall. So that's kind of my closing thoughts, any
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: closing thoughts for you before we get out of here.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Now, I don't think so. Good luck tonight in the contest.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Hopefully hopefully you take it all home tonight. Nay's I
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: know you were there on Friday. Maybe you can maybe
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: get to the finish line tonight.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, hopefully the season turned around in there.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I had a couple of close calls lately, was uh
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: was primed up in a pretty damn good position in
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: that that Bear Showdown. Obviously, things didn't fall my way
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter there compared to what the first
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: three quarters look like. But uh, yeah, hopefully if it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: not this Showdown, it's uh it's the Sunday main slate right,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: which feels pretty gross as well. So now, good luck
• 28:02
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• 28:33
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