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The Trade That Gave Him a Second Chance | Jeremy Wooden · The Elevator Careers Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: No matter which trade you're in, if you have an opportunity to join the union, I highly recommend it.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of things that used to go on, poor working conditions, lots of people died.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: So the histories of the union and the reason why the unions are here is something really and truly to acknowledge.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the benefit to being union is your job security, the safety, the brotherhood, the wages and benefits.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm proud to be an elevator mechanic and proud to be in the union.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today's guest is Jeremy Wood, business manager of IUEC Local 93 in Nashville, Tennessee.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: Jeremy's life took a devastating turn after a tree trimming accident that left him a double amputee.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: Through faith, determination, and the unwavering support of his union brothers, Jeremy found a way to get back to work and to a life he's proud to live.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: Throughout the interview, the one thing that really shines through is Jeremy's firm belief that no matter what challenge life may bring, you can overcome it.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: Jeremy, welcome to the show.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: Matt, thank you for having me on here.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: I greatly do appreciate it.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: My name is Jeremy Wooden.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the business manager of IUBC Local 93, Elevator Union.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: My local is based here in Nashville, Tennessee.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I cover Nashville, Knoxville, and Chattanooga as well.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: I currently have around 350 members.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: We do anything and everything that involves elevators, escalators, and moving walks.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you you told me that you walked away from owning your own HVAC company to start over in the elevator trade.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just curious what kind of courage does it take to reinvent your life to essentially walk out of one profession into another?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it was just kind of like reflecting on where you're wanting to go.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I grew up in the heat and air conditioning industry from the time I was real young as in the family.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the money was great.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: The work was mechanical, a lot of hands-on, very fulfilling because, you know, you go to someone's house, they're hot or cold, you get them comfortable again, or you're installing HVAC in their house that they're building.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: So you get a lot of reward on that, a lot of pride in it.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's great work and a great trade for anybody to be in.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: I had to do some reassessing.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: Running your own business is a very difficult thing.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'd heard uh somebody tell me one time that just because you can make the world's best cookie doesn't mean you can run a cookie business.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I was very, very good in the HVAC field.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, lots of training in it, lots of years doing it.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: But comes a point in time having manpower, and then for my own self, benefits, retirement, and stuff like that, because I've watched family members that's pretty much work their whole life doing HVAC and other jobs, and then they get towards being older with no retirement or nothing like that, because you have to set it up on your own.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: You make plenty enough money, and you would think you'd be responsible enough to take care of yourself, but you just procrastinate and then put it off and put it off.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I was getting older and kind of learned about this trade and thought, you know, I'm gonna do something totally different.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I get you.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you told me that you uh tried to recruit your cousin out of the elevator union, is that right?
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: We had grew up together and and we wound up having our kids going to the same daycare.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: So we seen each other every day, you know, and I used to ask him, how do you like doing elevators?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_01: He said, I love it.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's like cool.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, what about eating air?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I love it, man.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Do great, make good money.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: He was, you know, had a house going on vacations and stuff, so figured he was making good money.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I asked him one day, I said, Hey, won't you come work for me?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I said, you can't make that much money.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I can probably handle what you're making hourly rate.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: And he's yeah, he said, you probably can, but I don't think that you can match by benefits.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I was thinking, man, it can't be that good of benefits.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: And uh when he showed me the benefit package that the elevator union had, it kind of shocked me.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Oh man, I said, how do I get into that?
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: And he said, Well, I thought you make good money.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Oh, I do make good money, but my goodness, I don't have those kind of medical benefits, you know.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I was raising two kids by myself and uh the doctor's visits and different things, and I never did set any retirement up for myself because you know you'll always put that off and you start thinking about retirement when you get old.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what you don't realize is you're getting old every day.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, yeah.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta really gotta think about it when you're not old, when you're not feeling pain, right?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: In your early 20s, you know.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: And obviously you would you know worked in HVAC, of course, but tree trimming, construction service, union leadership.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think those experiences teach you about the value of the skilled trades in America today?
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, I did do some tree trimming when I was younger.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I wanted to be a lineman, work on power lines.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_01: That was always something that interested me.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I got a job with a contractor that trimmed trees off power lines and also did line work.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I was gonna move my way up to do line work.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I wound up being pretty good at tree trimming in my area supervisor.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: When I asked him about moving over to the line crew, he said, No, he said, we already got you trained up good enough to do tree trimming.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: He said, We're not gonna train you again to do line work.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I quit.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to be a tree trimmer my whole life.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: And you obviously uh it was the tree trimming that kind of led to your bad accident, right?
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, it was.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, uh my brother, he is a lineman, and uh he's always liked doing tree work on the side.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: So he had a bucket truck and a chipper, dump truck, all the proper equipment to do it.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I was already in the office, I was a business rep.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: And he had called me just out of the blue, it was on like a two shir on Wednesday, and said, Hey, would you be able to help me on Friday take down a tree for you know, friend of ours?
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: They were getting their driveway paved and wanted to get this tree down before they did that.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, Oh yeah.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: He said, It's real simple, no holding, no tying nothing off.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: You'll drive the dump truck and chipper over there, I'll drive the bucket.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_01: We'll just take it down, should be done by noon.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: Piece of cake.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Oh yeah, I'd love it.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I work in the office all the time.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'd love to get out of the office for once and go do something.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then me and him were hanging out the rest of the day.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: I did the tree work, the bucket work portion on the first tree, and then he cleaned it up, and then the second tree, he was going to do the bucket work, and I would clean it up.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: And everything was going good.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it was a real big tree, uh, real tall.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: We could reach about 60 feet of it, um, had about another 40 feet above us.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we looked at it and said, we'll just cut the tree.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: It was leaning away.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: My chipper was set up 40 feet away from where the tree limbs were falling, so plenty safe.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: And when he cut the treetop, it fell properly, it landed on the limbs, and the butt of that tree spun around and hit me in the back of the head while I was putting stuff in the chipper.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um just a freak accident.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, the noise of the chipper and stuff.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: I never heard anything.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: I honestly didn't know anything had happened.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: I woke up in the hospital a couple of days later.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: My brother really went through a lot, a lot with it.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he had to come down, give me CPR to uh resuscitate me to get me back going.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: They had to life light me.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: I never will forget, you know, kind of waking up in the hospital not knowing where you are.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously, I didn't have a leg.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: I had a great friend.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: I wound up marrying her.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: She was there with me and she talked to me, and uh my brother and family was all there kind of finding out what was going on.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Trying to accept that and understand it.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: It didn't really dawn on me too much initially, you know, because you're just wondering where you're at.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: A great man I go to church with, his name is Vance.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: He had come in and asked Shannon, can I talk to Jeremy for a minute?
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: She said, Yeah.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'd met him at church, but didn't realize he was missing both of his legs as well.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: I just met him one time.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: He sat there at my bedside and talked to me.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: He said, What's your concerns?
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: I told him, you know, I would I'd be able to work again, could I hunt, fish, you know, do that kind of stuff.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: And he reassured me.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: He said, Absolutely.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: He said, You know, you got a little ways to go.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be tough.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: But he actually does eat and there work as well and builds houses.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: He told me, he said, you know, you can do anything you want.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: He's a big duck hunter, avid hunter, and fisherman too.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: Him being there for me and talking to me and letting me know that, hey, you're gonna be all right.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: That that reassurance right there really was a game changer for me because that's the first thing you're it runs through your mind is all in all.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: I ain't gonna be able to walk.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna be able to work anymore, I'm not gonna be able to do anything that I loved.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: What's gonna happen?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, life has changed for you.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and it's and it's easy to you know blame the world.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: But you I mean, you said you were never angry at God about the accident, you just kind of took it as a test.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm curious how your faith shaped the way you process something that traumatic.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I had been through years ago.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'd been in a motorcycle wreck, messed my leg up, went to work for myself.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't walk for nine months during that.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Kids were little, and I was sitting on the couch, friends and family was coming to see me.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: I had a Bible there on my coffee table, just kind of thumbing through it, wasn't able to walk because the damage is non-weight bearing.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: Figured I'd flip it open and read through it.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: Been going to church off and on my whole life, you know, never been really solid at it.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I flipped the Bible open.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: I come to this book called Job.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: I thought, well, I'm gonna read Job.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Started reading the book of Job and learned about what Job went through.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he was a very wealthy man, great family, farmer, lots of livestock.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, the devil was talking to the Lord and said, What about your servant Job?
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: The Lord told the devil, do anything you want to Job, but you can't kill him, and he will not turn his back on me.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, in that moment of reading that book, and then I turned around and read it again, like, huh.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it dawned on me for some reason that it's just a test I'm going through right now to see if I would turn my back.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I put myself in Job's shoes and thought, it's just a test.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, years have gone by, you know, I never rode another motorcycle or nothing because I figured I'm not going to risk that.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't want to get hurt.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Had kids to raise.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: Well, then the tree trimming accident happened.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Looking back on the book of Job and keeping my faith and just believing in the Lord, I thought, you know what, this ain't nothing but a test.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what this is.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: This is another one of them tests.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: I've got to pass it.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: If he wanted me dead, he would have killed me.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, the night the accident had happened and they put me in the hospital.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: My wife, we were just dating in, but she told me that there was a young lady that came in the emergency room that same night.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: We had a lot of winds that day, and she was helping her dad clean some limbs up in the driveway, and one fell out of a tree and hit her.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: She came in the same emergency room, and she said her head was swelled up, looked like she'd been stung by a bunch of bees.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, that young lady passed away.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: As bad as your accident was, I mean you you easily could have gone the same way.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I took a real hard hit to the head.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: I've lost my sense of smell, ability to hear out of my right ear, cracked a vertebrae or something in my neck.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was a very traumatic injury, but it wasn't my turn yet.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Lord still has a purpose for me.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, and you know, you were able to keep working, didn't miss a a lot of time.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk a little bit more about that.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: But you, you know, I had asked you about the pain, right?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: It sounds immensely painful.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: And you said, you know, pain is your my in your mind.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: A little personal.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: My dad was a drug abuser and took a lot of prescription pain pills and various things.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: And so I've always been kind of scared of that stuff because I didn't want to go down that way and be on that.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I've had some friends and whatnot that's struggled with that their whole life, and some that's passed away from overdosing it.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so I've always been kind of scared of them.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: So what I learned, and I'm no doctor or anything like that, what I've learned going through a lot of pain is, and this is just me being me, your brain's a lot like a toddler.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if a toddler wants a popsicle, they'll cry until they get it, and you give it to them, and they quit crying.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, your brain's that same way.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: Your brain wants something.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if you give your body a medicine to calm the pain down, it's happy.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then as soon as you quit taking it and it starts hurting again, it wants it again.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: So you give it again.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: So and then you just take more and more to please your brain.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I just struggle through it.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't take any type of pain medicine or anything like that.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was obviously in the hospital and they were giving me pain medicine, but when I got out of the hospital, I said, nah, I'm just gonna deal with it.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna have to get extremely bad.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: You can deal with it.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: You can overlook it, you know.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm curious where that level of mental toughness comes from.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm curious, I mean, when you ignore it long enough, do you feel like the pain goes away?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: Or is it just it does, you know, you'll actually get a little bit used to it.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like, you know, your back hurts sometimes, right?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: Your leg may hurt, you might sprain a wrist or something a little bit.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you don't immediately just go take some opioids because you're having a little back pain.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you just stretch and move and work your way through it.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: So pain is just something that's going on in your body, and your body knows it has to fix it.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I'm not saying some people have to take pain medicine.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I'm just different.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: But it's a competition with myself to say, hey, that ain't enough pain yet.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: Let's have some more.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and believe it or not, it goes away.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's amazing.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: You talked a lot when we talked before about the support of your union brothers across the country.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: And what did that mean to you, especially those who you didn't even know?
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, I didn't really know what I was part of until I got into the business requisition, you know, and then I went up to the international and got to meet some guys at the international and really and truly know what goes on behind the scenes at the international level to give us our great benefits, to make sure that safety's priority, to make sure that we're taken care of and that we have a great career, and we got great leadership.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, the general president right now is Frank Christensen, and we can literally any one of us could call him and he will answer the phone and talk to you.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's big.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you normally couldn't talk to somebody at the very top of an organization.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, now we have Jim Chapman and uh Larry McGain, I can name them all off.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: They're just great regular guys.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: They worked in the trade, they're all elevator men, and they got our back.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: One of my family members that started a GoFundMe when all this happened.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know it.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I had locals from across the United States contribute to that, get my phone number and call me.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm nobody.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they found my phone number, reached out to me, called me, wished me well, asked if I needed anything whatsoever.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: The international leadership checked on me.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it was just uh you really and truly start learning what you're part of, that you're a lot more involved than just a job.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's a brotherhood that we have.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, work with a lot of great guys.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: If something happens, we stick together.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like you say, you didn't really know what you were part of until you started seeing the bigger picture, and and it sounds like that painted an even bigger picture for you.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's amazing.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: You talked about, you know, learning to trust your prosthetic legs again to be able to walk.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, is there a bigger life lesson in the idea of trust, like trusting yourself enough to take the next step even after falling or not there?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so one of the hardest things about it is your sense of balance.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: So you don't have any way to fill the ground.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: So your sense of balance then has to come in your hips and just in your mind, really.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, then it's a mechanical deal that you've got to wear, and you don't really know that you can trust it.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: It'll you'll fall sometimes and stumble, but it's hard to trust that.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I was able to do it thinking, you know what, it's just a fall.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: What am I worried about?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: I just get to get hit the ground and bounce back up.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: In advance, actually, my friend, he showed me how to fall in the yard.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: It was really good.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he would show me, he said, look, if you start to fall, go with it, roll with it.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Don't try to stop it because you're gonna fall and you don't want to break your wrist or something like that.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: So just go on and fall and then get right back up.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: I still fall to this day every now and then.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, just be walking along and stumping your toe.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if you stump your toe when you got legs, you can overcome it.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: You stump your toe when you got my one that's above the knee, when you stump that toe, it folds and you you don't have anything.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: You can't you can't quickly stumble and and kind of catch yourself, I guess.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: So you just go with it.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's a little bit of a learning curve, but if you've got to want to do it, you know, I look at it like, you know, I've got a granddaughter now that just heard the ear, she's learning how to walk.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so they stand up and they fall down and stand up and fall down.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you want to catch them every time, but you just gotta let them fall down, sit down on their butt, they'll get back up, you know, and then so she's learning right now how to walk.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of like walking with a prosthetic.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: You've just got to get your feet under you and figure it out.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Did it take a lot of courage to to kind of jump back out there and and use that?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you could stay in your chair, right?
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: But you didn't want to.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: When I'm at work behind this computer, I sit in a wheelchair, I take my legs off because they kind of get in the way.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: You can't use them to move the office chair around.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I just take them off, sit in a wheelchair.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: And that's another great thing about my position.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in my membership here, local 93 is full of a bunch of great guys, and they had agreed for me to continue getting paid for a couple of months while I was off.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Financially, very fortunate and very thankful for them.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: I've had a lot of great support here from the local, a lot of brothers that's reached out to me.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, we all pick on each other.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's I like that, you know.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's a true brotherhood.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: If you weren't picking on each other, it's not a brotherhood.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: I got a great bunch of guys here, and uh just love every one of them.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: And another thing that's helped is I've had I've had a handful of people call me going through some different things in life.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: So be it as what I've been through, I can greatly help them, you know, whether they're going through some marriage problems or they're having kid problems or they're having physical problems, you know.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: So it's been really good because I got a whole new perspective on life.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then just sharing with them, hey, we're gonna get through this.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: We'll just keep our head up and uh this will pass.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you become a brother that they can share almost anything with because you've you've been through it.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Right, absolutely.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I feel real grateful that I'm in this position.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: Really and truly, I'm glad it happened to me and not my brother.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you just gotta find the positive in it and keep your head up and really and truly keep going.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, and another thing about this whole situation, our benefit package that we have, we make we make good money, but our benefit package that we have, all I had to pay was my deductible.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: And that was$600 for the family.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Everything else has been taken care of across the board.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm well into the millions of dollars on this injury, and I've not experienced any financial hardship from the injury itself as far as medical bills go.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: And if I didn't have these type of medical coverage, hey, I don't know that you could overcome that out of pocket.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that would that would definitely put a financial burden on you for your life.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good point.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: Very, very fortunate for that, you know.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: And it ain't just that it's medical coverage, it's top-end medical coverage.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they they cover everything you need, and and there's no questions about it.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: New wheelchairs and prosthetics and all that, huh?
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: Everything, yeah.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: And that's a huge peace of mind because what would a person do if they didn't?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you would just have to deal with it, you know?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: And we talked a little bit about uh the brotherhood, the you know, the way that you're really able to provide a lot of support.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm curious how this experience has changed the way you lead, the way you mentor younger mechanics, and even handle other difficult situations.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, it changes because we did unfortunately here in uh 18, we had a we had an apprenticeship that got killed on the job.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic guy.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: And with that, and then what's happened to me, you know, I tell the guys, if this job is not for you, go do something else because it is extremely dangerous.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't, I'm not so fast a rush to say, hey, you need to go be an elevator mechanic because you're gonna make great money.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't do that.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody asks me about the job, I tell them about it, show them exactly how to go through the recruitment process and go through the neat program, and just explain to them that look, if you're only in it for the money, do something different.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: Because as we grow older and you've experienced it, we've all experienced it, you're gonna make more and more money.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well, once you get used to the money, you just need more money, right?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're only in it because of what it pays, you need to be in it because you have a passion for it.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's what you really and truly get some pride, and you can say proudly that this is what I do.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, in that way, and obviously you enjoy it, right?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: The purpose matters so much more than just a paycheck, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's you gotta love it.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's a lot of pride, you know, when you go downtown with your family and you go into a hotel or whatever, and you know, oh, that's a Colonna or a Tisson Krupp or an Otis elevator, and then you can explain to them how it works, you know, and then or you can go ride one that you know you put in.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: You'll always know those buildings that, hey, I put the elevator in that or the escalator in that.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of pride in that.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: If I worked at a manufacturing facility building cars and I know I built a truck, say, hey, I built the truck you're riding in right now.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of pride to that.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: And there's a lot of passionate people in the industry, right?
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that's one of the things that that attracted me to it, even though I'm not a elevator mechanic.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: I work on the outside more as a recruiter, right?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: But I but I love the passion.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: I love interviewing people like you that love what you do every day and and it's lost in in a lot of places, right?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: But it's still here.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: It is, man.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know it.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's I'm as proud to be an elevator mechanic, you know, as I had an uncle that was the chief of the fire department.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, a lot of firemen they're proud to be firemen, proud to be police officers, proud to be in the military.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm proud to be an elevator mechanic and proud to be in the union.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a good thing.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just curious, kind of back to your story for a minute.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: When you hear or when people hear your story, what do you think they walk away from that believing about their ability to persevere?
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: The one thing I hope they get out of it is you know, no matter what's get handed to you, you can overcome it.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: And it's all about your attitude and your want to overcome it to get through it.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: It'd be easy to find yourself in a hole and think, I'm just gonna sit here and not do nothing anymore.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Life is over for me.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you have to just get that and say, hey, Jeremy can overcome this or this person can overcome it.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: And it'll really open your eyes up to seeing everybody around you.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if you see somebody in the in the store somewhere and they're in a wheelchair, help them out.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if you see them grocery shopping and they're looking, just ask them, hey, can I get something for you off the top shelf?
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: It'll really help you.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even I do my very best not to even park in a handicapped parking spot, even though I could anytime, because hey, there's people out there, especially like a wheelchair or elderly people that really can't walk that good.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: It gives you a whole new perspective on the people that really need that.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: It opens your eyes up to the community around you.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll tell you one thing that's funny too, not so much little girls, but little boys, when they see me, I wear shorts most of the time.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: They see me and they think I'm a robot, and it cracks me up because they're looking at you.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they've seen Transformers and stuff like that, and they'll you'll see them in the grocery store and the shopping places and they'll be looking.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, their parents will say, Oh no, no.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: I said, and I have to talk to them.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, look, they've never seen this before.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's perfectly fine.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll sit there and they'll touch my legs and they'll they'll look at it and ask questions, and it really makes me happy because it doesn't bother me.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's not, I'm not shameful of it.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: But it's so funny to watch the little kids, you know, because they they don't really know what to do.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: They're thinking, uh-oh, we got a robot walking through.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: So even even some of my friends here or some of my family members, you know, that have little bitty, you know, one, two-year-olds, they'll take my leg off and I'll show it to them and they'll play with it.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I got a real good friend, uh, her son junior, he thinks it's the funniest thing to take my leg off.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: He'll take my leg off and he'll hide it.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: He'll bring it back, and you know, he'll act like he's taking his leg off.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just silly little stuff like that that I just really like.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think it's awesome that you're not you're not ashamed.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, hey, this is who I am, and it does seem to have really in a way open your eyes to, you know, everybody's got something they're struggling with.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's got something, it may not be visible, might not be able to take it away and hide it, but everybody has challenges.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so just being able to look at other people and be compassionate, realizing, wow, whatever they're dealing with, right, is tough.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: I can be treat them like a human and I don't need to judge.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right, you know, and and that's the best thing is you know what?
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, you'll you'll really learn compassion for everybody if I go to a grocery store and I see somebody riding the little electric cart outside.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they get out, get in their car, leave it.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: If I see one, I just drive it back inside, you know, because somebody else may need that.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: Just little bitty stuff like that that really you've never even thought about it before.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good point.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, I I never thought about that.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Never thought about you know, you choosing to not park in a handicap because somebody else might need it more.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's eye-opening.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: You'll just learn how to um spread the grace with everybody, you know, and you see somebody, I'm telling you, a wheelchair is a whole lot worse than walking on prosthetics.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: Even going to like, if you just wanted to go to the to a restaurant and eat something, go to a fast food place, you can't hardly set your food on your lap and make it to the table.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you you can't carry your food in your drink.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so there's a lot of stuff that you know, I just you start noticing that kind of thing.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: And you really got to be careful when you see somebody on prosthetics walking up to the door of a store to don't don't grab the door and pull it open for them because I'm reaching to grab the door and I'm gonna pull it open for balance.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, as soon as it's happened quite a few times, and I just let it go.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: But you grab the door and somebody snatches it open, it about pulls you over.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: But and they mean well, it's not a not a problem at all.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: One of the hardest things is people always assume that I'm in the military or that I got hurt in the military.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that was really hard at first because I was never in the military and I never want to disrespect our military, you know.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, people ask, hey, was you in the military?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: I said, No, I wasn't, and they'll go on.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I talked to another friend of mine that is in the military, and I said, How do I handle that?
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because when somebody said initially, hey, thank you for your service, I was real quick to say, Hey, I wasn't in the military.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that kind of makes a person feel awkward or like, oh, sorry, right?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: So, and he told me, he said, Listen, if somebody says thank you for your service, say you're welcome and keep going.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: He said, Now, if they want to talk and say, hey, was you in the military?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: What happened?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Then you can tell them I wasn't in the military, this is what happened.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: He said, But if somebody says thank you for your service, just acknowledge that they're thanking our military veterans and keep going.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's good advice.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: You can just take it on their behalf and and move on.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know, because I never want to misrepresent that I was in a military accident because I was not.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so I never want to take that away.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: And then it is awkward sometimes.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: You'll be sitting at a restaurant just eating, and then the waitress will say, Hey, somebody paid for your meal.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: All that gets me.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because I usually, when that happens, I just tip the waitress whatever my meal cost, because people people are just kind, you know.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: Which is awesome.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: They really are.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: You don't want to wear a shirt that around it says, I was not in the military, don't ask.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: But well, to your to your point, people are kind, and the fact that they're they're showing love and appreciation for those who did serve and were injured or or whatever.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's uh it says a lot.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: It does, it does.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: I remember when this first happened, I didn't have my legs and I was driving to work.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I would crawl in the truck, pull my wheelchair in, crawl through the seat, start my truck, and I'd drive.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: At first they amputated just my right leg, and then after that they cut my left one off.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I drive left footed.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I was stopping to get gas one morning, going to work, and I went to get down in my wheelchair and I missed it.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: I fell right out in the parking lot.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: These two men walked right over there to me, picked me up, and sent me back in my wheelchair for me.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: It was embarrassing, but you know it happens.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: Good they were there to help you out.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, as we wrap up, I was just curious if you uh you have anything else you'd like to say in regards to the rising generation, you know, joining the union, or what advice would you give?
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, um, no matter which trade you're in, if you have an opportunity to join the union, I highly recommend it.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: Once you learn the history of the union, and that's one of the great things that they do for us when you're a brand new probationary member, you get to go through the history of the union, not just the elevator union, but all of them.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: And you start to learn that the reason we have five-day work weeks, eight-hour workdays, good working conditions, holidays, a great pay, benefits, all of that stuff was fought for from the unions.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we still wouldn't have it.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: And when you learn about people that worked in a certain industry and they got paid with that industry's money, and that industry's money, you know, say he worked for a railroad guy, and the railroad guy paid him in that man's name's money, and then he had to shop for stuff at that guy's store, pay rent to that guy's store.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it was a lot of things that used to go on, poor working conditions, lots of people died in factories and different things.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: So the histories of the union and the reason why the unions are here for the betterment of mankind is something really and truly to acknowledge.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, a union sometimes gets a bad rap of thinking, oh, that's just where lazy people go to work and you got to pay somebody to work.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: And if them people were good workers, they wouldn't need somebody to represent them.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: And that's that's not true at all.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: And another thing I would tell the younger generations or anybody is take great notes, study, be involved with it, learn as much as you possibly can about your trade.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: Consume yourself with it, still spend time with your family, take your vacations and everything like that, but learn your trade and learn everything you can about it.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: Don't just show up to go to work.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you really and truly have to grow and take some pride in it.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so your career really and truly is about like raising a kid.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna start off with them not knowing anything, and that's where you'll be.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then you just gonna teach them stuff and show them the proper ways and show them safety and show them how not to get their self hurt.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so you got to remember that and learn, and then hopefully you can grow your children into being, you know, great, productive adults, and then you can grow your trade, your craft into something to be very proud of.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, that's well said.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: None of us are born knowing anything.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: I've got guys that come in and have no mechanical experience at all.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: Person may have only ever worked at a cookie factory, and now they're an elevator mechanic because we start them at the very bottom knowing nothing, and then train them all the way through the apprenticeship program.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: And that's that's the one thing that sets us apart from just working in the elevator industry, is our our education program is second to none.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: I have a lot of guys that'll call and say, well, union, non-union.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: The best thing I can explain to somebody is it's about like, and I don't mean anything by this, it's a community college versus a state university.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: You could be a lawyer still going through a community college, or you can be in a lawyer going through a state university.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: The elevator industry and the NEET program and in the union, we're a state university.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, you could still work on elevators and install elevators.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, I've got some jobs that when I was in the in the field on my route installed by some non-union elevator guys.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: And hey, I can't say the job was bad.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: They did a fine job.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: But the benefit to being union is your job security, the safety, the brotherhood, the wages and benefits, and uh the skill of it.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Education.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Jeremy, thank you for being with me today.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: I've enjoyed it.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate everything you're doing.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate your time with me today.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you too, and I appreciate what you do.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's really, really good.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: I I feel like you do a lot for our trade.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's a lot of fun.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: I love these conversations and uh wish you the very best as you continue to build the industry.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
• 33:09
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