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Sophia Demas – Consciousness Beyond Death · Vox Novus with Victor Fuhrman

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Vox Novus, the New Voice, Vox Novus, the New Dimension. Vox
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Novus thought and movement leaders who will share from their experience and offer tools to
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help us navigate our rapidly changing world. My name is Victor Furman. Welcome
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to Vox Novus, the New Voice. Many people experience after death communication and
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signs from their departed loved ones. For some, these experiences are ongoing and
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manifest in almost miraculous ways. My guest this week on Vox Novus, Sophia
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Demus, has had an inordinate amount of these experiences and has embraced understanding them
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and the cross roads between science and spirituality. Sofia has enjoyed three diverse careers,
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a decade in architecture that included working with notable twentieth century visionary doctor R.
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Buckminster Fuller, running her own coture fashion business, and working as a
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mental health therapist in private practice. She also created Living a Fearless Life,
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a twelve workshop program designed to help society's most at risk women increase their self
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esteem, which was piloted in the Philadelphia prison system. She's the author of
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the Amazon best selling The Divine Language of Coincidence. Her website is sofiademus dot
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com and she joins me this week to share her latest book, Consciousness Beyond
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Death True Stories of signs, messages and timing. Please join me in welcoming
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back, Sofia Demus. Welcome, Sophia. Thank you so much for having
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me back. Wonderful to have you for those meeting you for the first time.
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Please share your early life and path and how it shaped your understanding of
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our world. Well, I was very fortunate to have very a very fostering
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home, like a lot of love. My mother was a very religious woman,
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but she never forced it on me, and things happened when I was
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nineteen. It was my first sort of bout with WHOA, there's something bigger
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than us here. I was going through this, I would say, existential
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angst, like a lot of nineteen year olds. And there were two issues
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that I felt were unsolvable and through in a very short period of time because
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of a dream in meeting a man. Those two issues were solved very cleanly,
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and it was such a contrast from thinking this will never be solved that
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it started to make me pay attention. So I would say that is a
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real milestone in looking for things to be put in my path. And in
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your first book, The Divine Language of Coincidence, you started talking about these
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events that happened at the time you were nineteen. You were talking about gentle
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prods and inner voice. Share some of that with us place. So I
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have a basic philosophy of life that there is a divine intelligence. I use
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the word God a lot. And this intelligence wants us to be happy and
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find our true purpose, and it helps us by placing or communicating with us
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in many different ways. So these messages can come through dreams, they can
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come by a book falling off the shelf, You meet someone and they utter
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exactly what you need to hear just the right time. For me, it
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has been coincidences, these clever coincidences put in my path and what made me
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write the book. I had no desire to write a book. Ever,
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is when I figured out that going back and seeing the coincidences and then how
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they turned into the miracle. If I hadn't taken action, it would have
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just been a coincidence and nothing we would be talking about right now. But
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every one of those coincidences I had taken an action, and as a result,
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whether it was two minutes later or a year down the road, I
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got exactly what I needed at just the right time. And when I figured
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that out, that taking action is when I decided to write a book.
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You know, it's interesting. I don't know if we shared this the last
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time we spoke, but I found in my life, starting in my mid
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to late thirties, when a lot of the spiritual pathway for me reopened,
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is that every time I was presented with something through synchronicity, I had three
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choices. I could either dismiss it out of hand. I could say,
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you know, that's interesting, but I'll think about that next year or a
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few months down the road. Or I could say yes right now with the
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capital Y, embrace that and move forward. And I found that every time
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I said that big yess, the next one would come, and the next
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one would come. Have you found that also? Absolutely? Absolutely? And
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sometimes it's like too much, It's like, you know, it's like,
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oh, I can't believe it. I say thank you, and I say
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thank you a lot, please and thank you prayer and gratitude, which I
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considered to be the highest form of prayer. And the more I say thank
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you, the more I get. And there have been specific times when I
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have said to God when I'm overwhelmed with the gift, oh God, it
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doesn't get better than this. And I can't tell you how many times God
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says, oh yeah, watch me and then just immediately, you know,
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just completely me over. You know. So it's it's really this this intelligence
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that that you know, what you're saying is that this what we're describing here
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is having a personal relationship with this intelligence via consciousness. With through consciousness,
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I think anything is possible because it permeates everything. And I find that,
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uh that that I get uh my my main communication is through coincidence. Although
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I've had uh two dreams for sure that changed the trajectory of where I was
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going and what were those? Well, the one that solved my problems,
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my my issues, and the other one was really a very very short,
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kind of uneventful, short, short dream. And it was because at the
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time, I was a senior in college and I was getting my degree in
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art education because that was my mother's thing, right. I bought into her
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story that if you're a woman and you're artistic, the only thing you can
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do is teach. So I kind of went with this program, not really
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happy with it, and so now I'm almost graduating. I need one more
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term and six months of being an intern. And I have this dream where
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the doorbell rings and I go to the door and it's the mailman and he
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hands me an envelope and I opened the envelope and it's my teaching certificate and
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I look at it and I go, I don't want to teach each and
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I threw in this little plastic bin. And I get up in the morning
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and I went to the registrar's office and changed my major too. I wanted.
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I decided I wanted to be an archaeologist, and there was no archaeology
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department, so I changed it to art history and it didn't go over with
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my parents very well. And then and then from there, another synchronicity happened
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that I was introduced to the writings of Buckminster Fuller and fell in love with
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him and decided that I was going to be an architect. And so it's
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because of these things, And it was just like, well, there it
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is in front of your face. How can I say no to this?
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You know? Absolutely one of the things that I've thought about throughout my life.
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Because I started receiving messages as a kid, and I started to determine
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whether these messages were something that was coming from my own thoughts or coming from
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that source of guidance, the higher source of the divine source. Whichever way
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people can understand that, how do you distinguish between those two lines of communication,
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between something coming from yourself and something coming from the divine source. Well,
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I have because of my experiences which you're describing to me. It's one
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and the same. We were given an inner voice, an intuition, and
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the more we listen to the intuition that is within. But the message is
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I don't know where the message comes from. But the more I would take
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action on my intuition and I would receive what I needed, the more I
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trusted my intuition, and then there were just times when it came from outside
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of me. There's just no other way. And I can't really answer that
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because I believe it's one and the same. This is this consciousness. It
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speaks to you through your intuition. One of the things that I've sensed when
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I've had this is that if I heard a voice shouting at me or demanding
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that I do something, chances are that was something coming from my own ego.
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That's what they used to call the still soft voice within, that soft,
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reassuring, almost loving voice, a parental, loving voice, and acted
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upon it. Matt, then it was the correct path for me. Well,
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the ego is the ego is the opposite of the Holy Spirit. Okay,
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so Holy Spirit wants connection, union, love, ego, separation of
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I'm special and it, you know, you know, separates one from the
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other. And then somebody just sort of lives in their specialness. But we're
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all connected. So have you have you been able to discern then when it
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is your ego and when you're being contacted by the Holy Spirit? Do you
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sense a difference? Oh? Absolutely, Like I said, the ego is
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the shouting voice or the demanding voice. And I actually came to that conclusion
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in my early forties and the voice has been that soft, still voice within
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since that times. So absolutely, yes, yes, I totally agree.
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I'll share a quick example and in nineteen seventy five, I was in the
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Air Force. I was stationed in Korea, and one morning I had no
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reason to be concerned about my mother back in New York, but that voice
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said, you need to call your mom. She needs to hear from you.
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She needs some reassurance. And I always responded when I had that counsel
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and advice. And I called my mother, and in those days we had
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the old for those of us of a certain age, we had extension phones,
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so you had a wired phone in one room and a wired phone in
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another room. And my sister and my mother picked up the extension simultaneously,
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and I said, Mom, is there anything wrong? And my sister goes,
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oh, my god, how did he find out? And it turned
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out that she was scheduled for major surgery the next day, and the voice
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told me to reassure her that the surgery would be a complete success, she'd
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have a full recovery and she would be just fine. And I did that,
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and it made her feel much much better, and consequently, everything that
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the voice said came to pass. So that's an example in my life of
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one of those wonderful situations where the voice came gave me wonderful advice that proved
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to be healing or helpful to someone else. And I really love when that
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happens, because I'm the kind of person who loves to share that type of
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information. And I think you are too. Well, Yeah, but what
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you just described, was you left something out? Okay, so you got
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the message, but you listened and you took action. I mean, it
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becomes second nature at some point. And I would just love for your listeners
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to take this away, that this kind of communication happens to a lot of
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people. The let's say, strange thing about my experiences is that all of
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these experiences that I write about, you know, happened to me. And
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it's the volume, the number of experiences. But just the other day,
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I was at the ophthalmologist and so I told I told, I told her
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about my book, and she says, well, I've got a story for
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you. I said, okay, And she said that she and her husband
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had to go to a gala and she was dead tired. That was the
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day when she was doing a lot of surgeries. She did not want to
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go to the scala, but they had to go to the galap So now
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they go to the gala, and now she has to take the babysitter home
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because her husband's rule is never be alone with the babysitter, which I find
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interesting. And so she said, she takes the babysitter home, and she's
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now driving back and all of a sudden she said, I heard my grandmother
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go, wake up, and she goes. I came to and I was
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heading into a brick wall and she was saved. So and I hear these
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stories again and again and again, and so this is a pure instance of
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you know, departed loved ones looking after us. Absolutely. And we're going
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to be talking more about your book and your new book, Consciousness Beyond Death,
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True Stories of signs, messages and timing in the next segment, but
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I just want to finish talking about the divine language of coincidence. When Carl
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Jung defined meaningful coincidences without causal connection as synchronicity, that really learning about that.
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When all these things were happening to me in my mid to late thirties,
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it really resonated with me. Please give us some examples of some of
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the most profound that you've experienced. Okay, there's two series, two little
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strings of coincidences. Now, as far as the miracle goes, I do
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not give one miracle. I call it bigger miracle or lesser miracle than the
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other. But some of them have proved the results. The miracle has proved
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to be more important. So so I have these two little mirror I would
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say, not little miracles, but there there they had to do with my
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wedding. And as it was, two absolutely amazing coincidences that I write about
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in the book. And the one was a wrong number. I dialed a
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wrong number and I get somebody that I know socially by one digit, and
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you know he as a result of this misstyal he at the time, he
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owned the Berkley Hotel here in Philadelphia, and he gave us the ballroom for
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free and threw in the presidential suite for two nights. And then the other
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one was a woman who found my driver's license, got a hold of me,
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put it through the mail slot. She lived only a couple of blocks
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away, and then just a couple of months later, calls me up and
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tells me that she found my ATM card. Now, what is the what
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are the odds? And so she said, do you want me to put
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it in your mail slot? No. I recognized that this is bigger than
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me, okay, And I said no, no, No. I said
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you have to come to my studio. We have to meet. And as
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a result of that meeting, I found out that she was a concert a
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violinist and for our wedding, she got her friend who played the classical guitar
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and they played for my wedding present. I had to give the friend like
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fifty dollars or something, but they played Concierto de ren Juez, one of
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my face for pieces of music while I'm walking down the aisle. So okay,
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So that those are like amazing little coincidences that provided exactly what I needed
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at just the right time. And the other there's three coincidences, and I
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won't go into them. But I had left my husband because I because he
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was a rager and I you know, I tried well, he tried too,
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but these are childhood issues that are hard to overcome. And I had
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decided that's it. I am never going to lay eyes on this jerk again.
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Three coincidences. I had moved out, and in the course of two
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months, three coincidences happened. One had to do with opening the course in
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Miracles, which I would it would be my go to for a count and
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opening the book up to the Healed Relationship, which I did not want to
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read. But my rule is you have to read whatever you open the book
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up to. That allowed me to agree to see him if he called.
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Basically, what this what the message was was God is in everyone. And
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if your brother comes to you with his hand out stretched to connect with you,
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and you say no to your brother, you say no to God,
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Well what am I to do? You know? But so he called the
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next day I agreed to meet with him. He tells me the most amazing
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coincidence, I'll just tell you it was about his wedding ring. And the
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third coincidence this allowed us to get to talk to each other and and we
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find we got together. And then I was supposed to go to a to
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go to Maui to be the matron of honor for my best friend yet again.
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And I had trepidation about having him come with me because he had sabotaged
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so many romantic getaways. But I thought, no, if he's coming,
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I'm going to trust. And he came with me. And because of the
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book I was reading, I took a book that I had started to read,
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and I was very disappointed that I picked that one, because you know,
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this is this is not a beach read. It was The title was
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Endless Energy by Deborah Green, who's a PhD kinesiologist. And I'm reading this
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book, and it talks about her the healing she she she does these energy
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readings, and I'm fascinated, and I'm going back and forth to the citations
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at the end of the book, and then I go back and there is
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her name, Deborah Green, Maui, Hawaii. Not only was she in
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Maui, I mean we could have been going any of the three hundred and
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sixty degrees, but her address is T. Hay wrote and that our condo
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was on key Hey Road. So we ended up having these readings and it
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was fascinating and as a result of I don't know what it was, if
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it was the trust issue, the healings that she did. That was in
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two thousand and nine, and Frank has not had one single episode since.
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In fact, he's had a spiritual transformation. And I'm married to my ideal
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companion. That is so wonderful. Thank you for sharing that, you know,
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and you can say, well, I mean, was it wonderful to
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get a free gorgeous ballroom, you know, for my wedding venue, or
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to have this wonderful music. It was spectacular, But saving my marriage was
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I would say more important. Absolutely. My guest is Sophia Demas we're going
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to be talking about her new book, Consciousness Beyond Death Two Stories of signs,
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messages and timing. Sophia, please share with our listeners where they can
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get your books and find out more about you. My website is Sophia dmos
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dot com. There's reviews of my books and also there's my Influencers page,
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which is there are eight people that I have had personal contact with and I
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consider mentors. The book can be purchased at Amazon, Burnes and no,
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it can be ordered anywhere wonderful and we'll be back with Moro of Sofia after
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on Vox Novus, my guest this week is Sofia Demus. We're talking about
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her brand new book, Consciousness Beyond Death, True Story of Signs, Messages
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and Timing. Sophia and the introduction to the book, you share that research
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supports children are born with a natural spiritual compass. Please share these findings and
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what they mean to our understanding of consciousness. Okay, So there's been a
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lot of study research on a reincarnation and what researchers have found is that these
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children that when they are reported, these are children that are three, four,
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five years old that talk about their husband, their wife, this other
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place. And it is as the child grows up in life's distractions come in,
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that connection is broken. A very close friend had told me that when
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her daughter was three or four, she said that my name is and it
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was like a Hawaiian name, and she said that there were trees with pineapples
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and she described this place. And so how can a child and this is
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you know, numerous books have been written about this. So I believe that
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when children have this natural sort of connection with the home that they've left,
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because I believe that when we die, we simply shed our bodies and we
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go where we came from. In fact, that's the way I end the
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book. I had a sort of an out of body experience during a guided
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meditation, and that was the message. I was floating in light and I
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thought, oh my god, and I heard like a voice, or it
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was more like the message. It's what you understand after somebody talks to you,
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is that this is where you came from and this is where you're going
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to go. And I thought, wow, you know this is this is
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amazing, and we forget, we forget that. You know, our true
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home is out there being in oneness. Absolutely. When I was a kid,
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I had this fascination with the work and life of Edgar Allan Poe,
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and for me, I thought perhaps I was the reincarnation of Edgar Allan Poe.
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I never was able to establish that, but the poetic gift definitely came
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through maybe who knows, well, you know the Poe House. His house
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is here in Philadelphia. I didn't know that. Now, I didn't know
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that. Yeah, I've got to I've got to visit there sometime. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. In Consciousness Beyond Death, you offer several accounts, some personal
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and those from others, sharing experiences before and after the transition of loved ones.
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One particularly moving story was your unlikely and synchronistic trip to Lilydale. Would
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you share that with our listeners, please, yes, that I would.
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I would consider that a wild experience. So we were going to Buffalo for
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my friend's daughter's wedding, and then from then on we were going to go
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to Maine, where my friend and neighbor owns an island there. They have
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their own personal island off the coast of Maine, Maciasport. So I was
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working on some project and so I tasked Frank to find us a place in
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a Buffalo. So it turns out that everything was taken because there was a
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beyoncey concert and then there was the State Fair, so all the hotel rooms
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were taken. But he managed to find this very modest little airbnb. So
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he says, look what I found. I booked us for two nights and
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I'm like, why why two nights in Buffalo And he says, well,
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you know there's Lake Ontario or whatever lake. And I said, I'm going
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to, you know, spend a day looking at a lake. I mean,
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this is eating into our main vacation. And he said, oh,
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it'll be just you know, a sort of R and R. And he
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says, I think you're going to find the hosts interesting. I said,
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well, what's so interesting about them? And he said, well, the
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husband has been in broadcast forever and now he's writing a book about it,
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and his wife is a reiki master, and you know, she offered actually
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to do a meditation, and I said, oh, okay, we can
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use the meditation. So I went along with this. So we wake up
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in the morning for our meditation and she says, well, I have to
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leave by ten or because I have a book signing in lily Dale. And
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I go, oh, I said a book signing, And I just looked
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at Frank, you know, and he got it. We're going to the
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book signing in lily Dale. So I said it's lily Dale and she said,
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well, it's a gated community, and then she changed it and said,
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oh, it is a spiritual community. So we go to lily Dale
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and it just struck me like like it was like a like a collection of
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these little Victorian houses and just perfectly manicured lawns and these people kind of walking
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around like with these like smiles on their faces, and it's not making sense
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to me. But anyway, we go to the bookstore and there is our
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hostess signing books, and she introduces me to the manager and tells her that
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I'm writing a book on coincidences. And she says, well, that's right
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up our alley. You know you should come and we're gonna when you finish
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the book, we'll give you a reading. So I thought, well,
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that's why, that's why this whole thing happened, that Frank had this wild
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idea to spend two nights here. So so she so the manager goes,
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oh, it's Sunday today, and so we have uh uh, there's uh
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what did she call them? Message ceremonies? We have we have two message
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ceremonies on Sundays, one at two and one at seven. And I said,
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well, what's a message ceremony? She said, well, uh,
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these mediums and what what what, Lily Dale is it's a seasonal I believe
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it's May through August and all these mediums collect there and people go to to
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contact their departed loved ones. So she says, these are mediums and they
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give messages to people. I said, you're kidding, that's fantastic. So
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Frank and I have this lovely lunch on this Victorian porch and off we go
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to the the assembly hall. So there's about, I don't know, one
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hundred and fifty people there, and so I specify, I said, Frank,
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I want to be in the back so that I could watch the show.
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So I'm listening to this. And the way it went is each medium
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would get would give out two messages and she would call on this person you
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know, and say, you with the green shirt, you know, will
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you receive and the person would go yes, because that's why they're there.
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And then she would start out by saying or he would start up by saying,
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well, you know, there's this man in overalls and he tinkers with
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cars, but he is very loved by the family and he's special to you.
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Oh, yes, that's my uncle Roy, and or maybe a couple
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of times I think there was at least two times when the person said,
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no, that doesn't sound like anyone I know. So I'm having a blast,
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like this is this like free show? And then towards the end,
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this medium points towards me and says, you with the white hair and glasses,
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Well, half the people in the room had white hair and glasses,
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and because I'm looking, and then she says, you with a pink headband,
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and I said me, yes, will you receive? So I said
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absolutely. I said, I'm an open book. So she starts out by
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saying, there's two men. One is your grandfather and the other one is
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your father. But it's your father who wants to give you the message.
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And how she described him was he's short and stocky, and then she changed
34:53
it. He says, no, he's short and solid. Well that was
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the hook, because he was sinewy, all muscled till till he died when
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he was ninety two. And my father was absolutely hysterically funny. And then
35:13
we would have these fights and then you know, and then we would make
35:15
up, and then he would, you know, go tell his friends,
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you know how like how awful he was when he was mad at me.
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And I found out from one of his friends, and that just never sat
35:28
well with me. So he says, the message is and he said,
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your father has says that he had said some inappropriate things and he just wants
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you to know that he's full of love for you. Well, Victor,
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I mean it was instant healing. I mean it was just it just made
35:57
me whole. It was just amazing. And then he says and he has
36:01
a message for your nephew. And I have two nephews, one I'm particularly
36:07
close to, and he says, well, he says, your father doesn't
36:15
want him to find himself on the other side and be sorry for what he
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did. And I realized that it was my other nephew who had addiction problems.
36:30
So as soon as we were on our way to Maine, I texted
36:36
him and I said, Nick, I said, this is really weird,
36:40
and I decided to do to go along with how the mediums presented their presentations.
36:51
So I said, I texted and said, I got a weird message
36:55
from your papool, which is a grandfather in Greek, but I don't want
37:01
to text it, so if this is okay with you, please contact me.
37:07
So immediately he goes seven o'clock your time. So when we got to
37:10
the island, I called him and he tells me that, you know,
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his addiction had come back, and his wife had just left and taken the
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three children down to lay her parents, and that he says, he was
37:30
sitting there with a gun. And I said, does this make sense to
37:36
you? And he goes, oh, yeah, and he tells me the
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story that he was sitting there with a gun, and since then he's turned
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his life around wonderful. Thank you for sharing. Then it was unbelievable,
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these two two messages that were absolutely apropos. I've had the blessing and I'm
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grateful for the blessing of seeing departed loved ones in spirit or feeling their presence
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in spirit. I've come to learn that many experience the presence, sometimes in
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the form of touch or physical manifestation, of loved ones who have transitioned.
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Do you have a couple you can share with us? I have one.
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I have one that when so I have a number of these communications that had
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to do The first chapters they had the events had to do with my father,
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and the second chapter they had to do with my mother. One time,
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I woke up in the morning and I felt her next to me.
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I felt her, she was there next to me. Now, you know
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a lot of people have reported seeing apparitions of their departed loved ones. My
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departed friends and family no better than to appear because that would freak me out.
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So the messages have come in other ways. But this was my mother
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was laying that next to me, and I didn't look I didn't look.
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I just was in awe and then all of a sudden she said, in
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grief, oh, I've got to go, and she disappeared, and I
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know I was not asleep. I was absolutely awake. So I have heard
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of this, of the touch of presence. I've also one time I'd like
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to share this. This is when I was starting my second career. After
39:53
architecture, I had addressed designing business and I so I was designing this It
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was It was interesting because the seven wedding gowns that I did, all seven
40:12
brides had lost their mothers, and so I had become kind of a sort
40:16
of a surrogate, a confidant, and so this one actually it was because
40:24
of her that I even decided to go into this business. So I had
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I was, I hadn't started the business yet. So I was sewing the
40:37
gown in my living room. It was in a dream. I'm sewing this
40:45
young woman's wedding gown and I felt someone just in the back of my right
40:51
shoulder and I turned around and she goes, oh, I'm sorry, I'm
40:59
sorry. She says, I just wanted to look at the dress. So
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I became friendly with this woman and she invited Frank and I to their home,
41:13
and I look on the mantle and there is this photograph of this woman
41:20
who appeared in my June. It was her mother. And these things happened
41:25
just more than we know, absolutely as long as we're open to them,
41:32
I mean, we have to be open. Absolutely. I shared with you
41:36
personally, and some listeners know of my relationship with my former partner, Judy,
41:40
who passed in nineteen ninety eight. And after her funeral, I came
41:45
home and I was exhausted and obviously grieving, and I needed to rest.
41:51
And I laid down on the bed, face down, and the two cats
41:55
that we had at the time jumped up on the bed and sat in front
41:58
of me, like two little sphinxes, and they were just looking at me
42:01
lovingly, and then all of a sudden, their gaze turned up towards this
42:05
roof, and very slowly they started coming down and coming down and coming down
42:09
until they were looking directly at my back. And I felt two hands touching
42:15
my back, gently massaging and rubbing me, and I knew it was her
42:19
saying I love you, I'm fine, everything is going to be okay.
42:24
Oh, how lucky for you how lucky. On that note, I am
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going to share one of the stories that had to do with my mother,
42:37
which my nephew John, who told me this. He told me this maybe
42:47
six or eight months ago, and I just cannot believe that he has never
42:52
told me this story. But his oldest son, Teddy, he told me
42:59
that when he was feeding him when he was one and a half, he
43:01
was in the high chair and he's trying to feed him and doing the little
43:06
airplane, you know, circling the food the spoon, and and he's you
43:12
know, feeding him, and then all of a sudden, he said,
43:15
Teddy's eyes just went like like like silver dollars, you know, just wide
43:22
eyed. And he's and he said, and he's looking past my shoulder,
43:28
and all of a sudden he starts giggling, giggling, giggling, And he
43:36
said, I said, Teddy, what are you seeing? And he goes,
43:40
yeah yeah, which is the Greek word for grandmother. And generally,
43:49
you know, kids who don't speak Greek and have Greek grandmothers, uh generally
43:55
call them yah yahs. But he distinctly called her yeah yeah. And it
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was absolutely no question. So this was what you're describing is as real as
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it comes. And you know how wonderful that we've had these experiences. Absolutely.
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My guest this week is Sophia Demus. We're talking about her new book Consciousness
45:22
Beyond Death. True Stories of Signs, Messages and Timing. You share many
45:30
moving stories and in particular the story of a woman named Joy. The story
45:36
suggests that when open, we're presented with opportunities to be angels of healing and
45:42
completion, helping others prepare for transition. How do we recognize these callings and
45:47
avail ourselves to those in that special need. I'll tell you, Victor,
45:55
none of these events, or these like these reaching out to help somebody,
46:04
none of them were deliberated. Like I never sat there going, Okay,
46:09
here's the plus column and here's the negative column. Should I do this?
46:14
It was just I mean with joy when I heard that she had had this
46:20
seizure and was unconscious in the hospital, and was told that she had no
46:25
living relative and she was all alone. She was a couple of years younger
46:31
than I was, and come to find out that she had an MSS.
46:37
It was like And also I found out from a neighbor that she was in
46:42
a hospital that was four blocks away. I never thought of it. I
46:45
just put on my coat and went to the hospital. And then from then
46:51
I got involved in taking care of her and sort of amassing a team.
46:57
And it was and then her her demise at the end just completely floored the
47:06
neurologists. And I share in the book that so one of there were three
47:14
of us that took care of her. Each one of us had a different
47:16
task, and I was her like day to day, you know, taking
47:21
her to the doctor, making sure she was drinking water and things like that,
47:27
and uh and and the ms had kind of uh you know, there
47:31
was there was this like uh sort of missing link in her thought and trying
47:37
to to uh talk. So so one of one of the people on the
47:45
team of Miriam uh calls me up and says, you know, I just
47:52
had this uh meditation with my mother that I want to share with you,
47:57
but I can't do it over the phone. I mean, it's just too
48:00
too amazing. Can I come over? I'm like, of course, and
48:04
her mother I had had. It was with her mother that I had the
48:09
guided meditation that I write about at the end of the book. All I
48:14
knew is that she channeled. And so during their meditation, her mother,
48:23
Miriam had not told her about Joy, that she had come on board to
48:29
help, and she was a lawyer, so she was doing the legal uh
48:34
uh you know, legal assignments. So she comes over and she said,
48:40
right in the middle of meditation, her mother actually mentions Joy's name and says,
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Joy is not to be perceived by the senses. And this is very
48:52
important because Joy was a major order and you could hardly, you know,
49:00
be in her room with the urine smells and everything. It was just like
49:05
things piled stuff on the floor. And she said, joy is not to
49:09
be perceived by the senses. In a past life, she was in a
49:14
position of supreme power and abused it and has chosen to come back and suffer
49:20
in a tone. So the strangest things would happen with her. At one
49:25
point, I coincidentally, I was having coffee with one of my mentor's father,
49:34
Stephen, and I and you know, he's just the closest thing to
49:37
Jesus Christ here on earth, and he would open these Covenant houses, which
49:45
were shelters for a homeless youth. So we're having coffee and I said,
49:52
you know what, why don't we go over to Joy. I want you
49:57
to meet her and I you can see what, you know, the work
50:01
I do. And it just so happened that it was February, it was
50:07
eight degrees out, and we go to her apartment. I called. She
50:12
did answer the phone, and I could tell something was happening. I said,
50:15
we're not We're going now, we're not having our coffee first, and
50:21
she was. We found her on all fours shivering, no heat. She
50:27
was out of it, but the phone she was near her, and I
50:31
called the ambulance and the doctor said that day that had she not come when
50:37
she came, she would have been dead by the afternoon from dehydration and inflammation.
50:46
And it was just so so somehow I saved her life. And at
50:52
the end she had the last seizure she had. We you know, the
51:00
neurologists, UH called all three of us to come and sign off, you
51:07
know, because in the MRI she was now a vegetable. And he said,
51:13
there's nothing, you know, we can do, and I said,
51:15
but I just found this great a part, you know, a part assisted
51:20
facility because you know, she loves Center City and she could sit on her
51:23
wheelchair and look out the window. And he just looked at me pitifully and
51:28
said, she will never be able to sit in a wheelchair. So we
51:32
said okay, and they were not going to feed her. She she they
51:37
were just not going to feed her. The next morning, the intern who
51:42
was present called me and said, we have no explanation about this. But
51:47
the nurse came in and asked Joy her name. Joy said her name and
51:52
her birthday, and so we can't explain it, but we have to continue
52:00
feeding her well against any doctors prognosis. She kept getting better and better,
52:12
and Tracy, the other person on our team, and I went to visit
52:17
her and she was they actually so we went to visit her and she could
52:27
talk and I said to her yes, and so they decided to take her
52:34
to physical therapy. So we go to Tercy and I visit her at physical
52:39
therapy and I go into the room. First, Tercy was on the phone
52:45
and I said, you know you have been doing so well. Joy.
52:49
You know I have this place for you that you will love, you know,
52:53
because there's restaurants and you can look out the window. And she looks
52:59
at me and says, thank you. I appreciate you very much. She
53:06
had never thanked me for anything that all the six years that I took care
53:09
of her, and I am just it was like a completely different person.
53:15
And then Tracy goes in and she comes out and she goes, you won't
53:20
believe this. She looks at me and goes, Tracy, I love you.
53:24
And we left in a complete like days. So that was on a
53:30
Wednesday. That Friday, I was just outside the physical therapy and I thought,
53:37
I'll just go in and say hello, and I go in. I
53:42
go into her room and she is physically dying. She's dying, actively dying.
53:49
And I kissed her and I said goodbye to her. And I said
53:59
to God, look, I know you did a deal. You know,
54:01
like she was going to come back to suffer in a tone as a human.
54:06
I've seen her suffer. I said, take her. And she died
54:13
that afternoon. And I am convinced, without a doubt that the deal that
54:19
she made that she was going to suffer in atone and God would allow that
54:23
to happen until she could express love and gratitude, which she did in the
54:29
same day. I am absolutely convinced of this. What would you like readers
54:34
to take away from consciousness beyond death? Hope? Hope? That is it
54:44
is just without any trace of doubt. I'm saying this that when we die,
54:49
we simply shed our bodies and we are as conscious as you and I
54:54
and everyone who's listening is at this very moment. It is without a doubt.
55:01
And then when we make our transition and think about it, then we
55:07
will be able to cleverly communicate with our loved ones that we've left behind.
55:14
That I think is what I hope people take from the book. My guest
55:20
is Sophia Demas her wonderful new book Consciousness Beyond Death. True Stories of Signs,
55:27
messages and timing. Sophia, one more time, please tell our listeners
55:30
how they can get your books and find out more about you. The books
55:35
available on Amazon and can be ordered wherever books are sold, and they can
55:40
also go on my website to learn more at Sophiademas dot com. Sophia,
55:46
thank you so much for joining us and sharing this very very important, hopeful
55:52
and wonderful message. Oh thank you, Victor, thank you and thank you
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for joining us on Box Novus. I'm Victor, the voice Firmon of a wonderful week