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Mac & Bone Show - Nick Wilson Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: We've got to talk Browns.
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  Speaker 2: We've also got to catch up with him as well
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  Speaker 2: back in his hometown. We're talking about Nick Wilson, who
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  Speaker 2: returns to the WFNZ Airwaves.
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  Speaker 1: Nick, what's going on, brother? How you doing, man?
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  Speaker 3: Mac and bone big daddy has returned. And I got
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  Speaker 3: to tell you, you got me fully torqued here. I
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  Speaker 3: heard Kyle Bailey, Chris McLean, football preview and twin peak
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  Speaker 3: eight hour drive, but I don't know if I can
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  Speaker 3: do it completely aroused the entire time. But I think,
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  Speaker 3: I think I got to try it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. And the thing.
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  Speaker 4: And you should bring Hacksaw and put him in a
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  Speaker 4: Twin Peaks outfit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. That's a combo.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, he's down to 240 pounds. He would wear that
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  Speaker 3: thing out.
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  Speaker 1: Lean, mean fight machine now, baby. How about Hackey? All right.
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  Speaker 4: He can play linebacker now. By the way, Nick, when
• 0:52
  Speaker 4: you moved away, you forgot something here. You forgot Fitty.
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  Speaker 4: He's still here waiting for you to pick him up.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: See, the thing is, Philly is my deep state plant.
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  Speaker 3: As you might have guessed when he he announced or
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  Speaker 3: he suggested the idea of laying naked in a room
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  Speaker 3: and waiting for people to prey upon him. That's all
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  Speaker 3: the Nick Wilson influence on radio WFNZ.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: Finney was messed up enough before he worked with you.
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  Speaker 2: And now look at him. You took him to another level. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about the Browns. Y'all
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  Speaker 2: get that big win against Tampa. We love seeing that
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  Speaker 2: last week. But I think everybody's saying, man, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: expect the Browns to do that. It looks like Watson
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: played pretty good. Like how was like was that a
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  Speaker 2: good performance last week? And is there optimism in Cleveland
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  Speaker 2: or is that too.
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  Speaker 1: Strong a word?
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  Speaker 3: No, optimism is the right word. It's actually been really funny.
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  Speaker 3: I've spent really like nine months telling everybody, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know this Deshaun thing's a great idea. And I
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  Speaker 3: have received no pushback at any point in the full
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  Speaker 3: nine months. And the amount of Watson warriors that popped
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  Speaker 3: their head up on Monday, you would have thought it
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  Speaker 3: was half of Cleveland. People calling into the show and
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  Speaker 3: being like, I told you about Deshaun. I've been here
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  Speaker 3: five hours a day. You never, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: even know. You'd like, I've never even heard your name before, bro.
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  Speaker 3: But there is optimism. And I think some of the
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  Speaker 3: reason why is that Tampa game is a bad matchup
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  Speaker 3: for Deshaun. They blitz a lot. They're stout against the run.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously Vita Vea makes it a nightmare up the middle.
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  Speaker 3: And yet across, you know, across four quarters, certainly in
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  Speaker 3: the second half, Deshaun got comfortable. And the truth is,
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  Speaker 3: He's still delivering the ball closer to the line of
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  Speaker 3: scrimmage than he'd love. The Browns offense still isn't running
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  Speaker 3: the way they need to over the course of the
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  Speaker 3: next couple months here, but... we were basically Todd Munkin
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  Speaker 3: put them on the table with this Deshaun move. Like
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  Speaker 3: the Browns organization had kind of subtly told him, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: it might not be the most popular move. Don't maybe,
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe go with the more popular move, the
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  Speaker 3: safer pick and Todd Munkin really believed in Deshaun Watson.
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  Speaker 3: So it was crucially important for Todd Munkin that Deshaun
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  Speaker 3: had a good game last week. And it was crucially
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  Speaker 3: important for Deshaun Because I don't think, I think given
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  Speaker 3: the reports around this last weekend, if Deshaun had put
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  Speaker 3: another stinker up there and they had lost to Tampa Bay,
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  Speaker 3: Shador Sanders would be starting this Sunday. And it wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: even be, I think, debatable for where things were going,
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  Speaker 3: if not for that second half performance against the Bucs.
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  Speaker 4: Nick, of the things that the Browns did well enough
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  Speaker 4: to win last week on the road, what do you
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  Speaker 4: think can carry over that they can also do well
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  Speaker 4: against the Panthers on Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: So I think the number one thing they can do
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  Speaker 3: is continue to protect the football, but getting your playmakers.
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  Speaker 3: This offense is set up for the playmakers to do
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  Speaker 3: the heavy lifting and not the quarterback. So I think
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  Speaker 3: if you look at some of the opportunities here, I
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  Speaker 3: think whether it's Concepcion or Boston, getting them either in
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  Speaker 3: the intermediate or just past the sticks, the ball, Harold
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  Speaker 3: Fannin Jr., and letting them kind of turn a 10-yard
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  Speaker 3: play into a 20-yard play or a 25-yard play, Like
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  Speaker 3: this team is incredible for yards after catch. Even if
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  Speaker 3: you're a good tackling team, this team's really good for
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  Speaker 3: yards after the catch. Defensively, I mean, I think they, listen,
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  Speaker 3: week one, I don't know how much you guys know this.
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  Speaker 3: The Browns have two of the best man corners in
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  Speaker 3: football in Denzel Ward and Tyson Campbell. And inexplicably, new
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  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, we call him Rudy, Mike Rutenberg, ran 67%
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  Speaker 3: zone in week one. That's just stupid. So week two,
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  Speaker 3: they ran about 63% man. So they can continue that
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  Speaker 3: because as much as I might be a Jalen Koch
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  Speaker 3: or Koch head, as much as I might love Ted McMillan,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Carolina has a Parker Washington type player
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  Speaker 3: that gave the Browns defense fit. So I think you
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  Speaker 3: do those two things. I think you've got a chance
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  Speaker 3: to keep this really interesting on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the storylines is Bryce and the
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  Speaker 2: offense have faced only 18% man. He's been killing zone
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  Speaker 2: in the first two weeks. And you know we're getting
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  Speaker 2: that man on Sunday. So that's going to be an
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  Speaker 2: interesting thing. Deshaun, to follow up on Deshaun, I know
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  Speaker 2: he made the comment yesterday, just wants it, doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to go to war with the fans. but back into preseason,
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  Speaker 2: you made those comments that I know you all probably
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  Speaker 2: talked about for days. Do you get the feeling, I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't mind if Deshaun messed up early and they got
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  Speaker 2: on him and started booing? Do you think they'll jump
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  Speaker 2: on him, or do you think he's gotten some grace
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  Speaker 2: with last week's win?
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  Speaker 3: This is probably the biggest question of this week. In fairness,
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  Speaker 3: I thought Deshaun handled his press conference yesterday as well
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  Speaker 3: as he can. I think there are still some sore
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  Speaker 3: feelings from him, from how he feels about Browns fans.
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  Speaker 3: And I think there are some sore feelings from Browns
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  Speaker 3: fans about him. But that win on Sunday, and again,
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  Speaker 3: with a good Deshaun performance, it paused for a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people. So I do expect there's still going to
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  Speaker 3: be some boost for Deshaun as he runs out of
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  Speaker 3: the tunnel. Beyond that, I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: up to Deshaun. If the first thing he does is
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  Speaker 3: a big whoopsie, yeah, I think he's going to hear
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  Speaker 3: some boos. If the first thing he does is a touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: that'll continue to buy him time and grace with Browns fans.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, it's been funny with the Deshaun
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  Speaker 3: experience because Deshaun really thinks he's a victim in a
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  Speaker 3: lot of this experience. And Browns fans certainly feel victimized
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  Speaker 3: by the Deshaun experience.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 3: The best thing to happen for everyone involved is that
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  Speaker 3: the Browns did win on Sunday against Tampa Bay because
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  Speaker 3: had the Browns come out of that Tampa Bay game, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: and two were too bad to Sean performances. Had they,
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  Speaker 3: had they tried to, to play to Sean in this
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  Speaker 3: home opener at Oh, and two, it would have been,
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  Speaker 3: it would have been really embarrassing for everyone involved. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Nick, Colin cowherd on our side here. Uh, Has Bryce
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  Speaker 4: Young being compared in some ways to Josh Allen? Chris
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  Speaker 4: Wong has Bryce Young as a hybrid of Joe Montana
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  Speaker 4: and Drew Brees. Which one of those makes more sense
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  Speaker 4: to you of who Bryce Young now is?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, well, it's gotta be the last one. Just, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: maybe Bryce Young is like one half of Josh Allen physically.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel like that's unfair to our guy Bryce, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think so far? Are you, are you
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  Speaker 4: thinking that he's, he's landed? Like this is obviously it's
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  Speaker 4: the stats are going to plateau out a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more than they are now, but do you think that
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  Speaker 4: Bryce has now arrived to be that guy?
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  Speaker 3: I think he's on the precipice of it. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know it's going to look like it has the first
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  Speaker 3: two weeks, but I love the idea that the Panthers
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  Speaker 3: are getting him to push the ball down the field more. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: to me, that's trust. So when Bryce is trusting his
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  Speaker 3: teammates and he's trusting himself and the system, that can
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  Speaker 3: only lead to another step forward. I think we all
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: overly criticized Bryce last year because that's what you do
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  Speaker 3: when you watch a guy every single week. There is
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  Speaker 3: paralysis by overanalysis. But I like the idea that he's
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  Speaker 3: taken a step forward this year. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I really I think given the way quarterback contracts work now,
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  Speaker 3: it's not where like the Browns were with Baker five
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  Speaker 3: years ago where it's like, well, he's not worth 50
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  Speaker 3: million a year. And then you realize, oh, hell, everyone's
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: going to get paid 50 million a year within the
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  Speaker 3: next five years. Like, I think I think as long
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  Speaker 3: as Bryce can keep up something that rhymes with the
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  Speaker 3: way he's looked the first two weeks. man, I think
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  Speaker 3: you've got a chance to really win some games. And
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  Speaker 3: the truth is, I think we're seeing this with Darnold,
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  Speaker 3: who clearly we had our bout with and Baker, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's really hard to make the best decision
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  Speaker 3: about a quarterback the first four or five years in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL because so few guys are Mahomes early or
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen early. And even Josh, that first year was
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  Speaker 3: not any good, right? Like sometimes like these, so many
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  Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks just take time. And I love that
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  Speaker 3: the Panthers have learned patience under Canalis and have given
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  Speaker 3: Bryce the time. And I, that my only word of
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  Speaker 3: warning is it's not going to be linear, right? There
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  Speaker 3: are going to be some games that it feels like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's the old Bryce, and that has to be okay
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  Speaker 3: because I think you've got the right person, and I
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  Speaker 3: think you get the right person and somebody with kind
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  Speaker 3: of that heart that I think Panthers fans can relate to.
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  Speaker 3: I think you have a chance to win a lot
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  Speaker 3: of games and then see where it goes from there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a crazy world we're living in. A David Tepper
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  Speaker 2: organization has shown patience, Nick. It is a crazy world. Now,
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: we're getting some comments from listeners that I want to
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  Speaker 2: hit you with, folks that know you from your time here.
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  Speaker 4: We're calling Ask Nick.
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  Speaker 1: At FNZ.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, feel free if you want to ask Nick anything, man.
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  Speaker 1: Catch up with him, man.
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  Speaker 3: 704-570-9610.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: 6 10. Um, let's see.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: We've got a text here that says, was Nick here
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: during the Willie P dry brisket incident?
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  Speaker 1: Are you aware?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, but I remember it because I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: tread lightly because I'm one of the people encouraging Willie
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  Speaker 3: P and, to, to branch out and to smoke stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But also at brisket looked dry as hell. That looked
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  Speaker 3: like that was just this side of charcoal.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he smoked it.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what the texture was looking for there.
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  Speaker 4: Nick, as you can imagine, Finney is very well respected
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: by our audience. Someone says, Hey Nick, did you accidentally
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: take Finney's neck to Cleveland?
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  Speaker 3: Ooh, no, no, no, no. So, uh, that man has
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: gotten no neck since well before I showed up and
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: he showed up with me in Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what do you, do you have any advice for him?
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  Speaker 2: He's got a sweetheart. He has finally landed a steady girlfriend. Um,
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: he has asked her to go steady like our parents
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  Speaker 2: used to back in the sixties and they've got a
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  Speaker 2: date tonight on his birthday. She's taking them out. How
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  Speaker 2: do you got any advice here? You're a six year old,
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  Speaker 2: a successfully married man.
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  Speaker 1: What's your advice?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The only difference between the relationships I had before
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  Speaker 3: I found Vanessa and this beautiful relationship I have with
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  Speaker 3: my wife is with Vanessa. I stopped for a little
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: while listening to that horny little bastard on my shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: Biddy.
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: Every time he says something that gives you an inappropriate thought, say,
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  Speaker 3: not now. Okay? Just delay it a little bit. Because
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: I think Fitty might be the thirstiest guy we've ever
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: had at FNC. And if you just delay that little guy,
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  Speaker 3: he'll get what he wants in time. Okay? Treat her
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  Speaker 3: like a lady, Fitty.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good advice.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's sage advice. Nick, what do you
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  Speaker 4: think of this move? Obviously, there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 4: chatter of... How is Fitty going to handle having a
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: new woman and also Flounder at the same time? Yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: Fitty demanded that Flounder take him out for his birthday
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  Speaker 4: dinner yesterday. Do you think at some point that Fitty's
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: got a woman now? He's just got to stop maybe
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  Speaker 4: demanding meals out of Flounder?
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  Speaker 3: Listen, polyamory is a big thing these days. You know,
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: it's not just related to or relegated to Mormons, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So I think if Fitty wants to have a plural relationship, I,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I listen, I don't begrudge happiness. So if
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  Speaker 3: Flounder's happy and she's happy and Fitty's happy, I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: they'll be on like a TLC show within the next
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  Speaker 3: 12 months.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there is a show on Tubi called Swingers
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: of Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, hey now.
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: Some neighborhood in Ohio has got to go. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what's going on there.
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  Speaker 3: And I got to say, I think I'm making a
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  Speaker 3: good impression on that show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, now, Nick, somewhere in all these like smart alecky
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  Speaker 2: questions that we're getting for you or about Fitty or
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Willie or whatever, there is a sincere question. How old
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: are Nick's girls now? I'm curious what stage the family
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: is at. That is an actual good, good question.
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  Speaker 3: Buddy, I'm paying for all of my smart-ass irreverence in
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: spades these days. My oldest is 16, and she is
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: six feet tall. My 20s are 12 going on 13
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: in January, and they're 5'6, and they are every bit
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: the smart aleck. Their father is. And every day it
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: is like battling with three not so miniature versions of myself.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: Anyone out there thought I want Nick Wilson to get
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: his comeuppance. I want you to know every single day
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  Speaker 3: I do. And it's in miniature versions of me.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter's 13. That age, they get, yeah, and she's
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: a smartass like me, and it's like, oh, my Lord.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: That age gets interesting. We are getting, just to let
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: you know, you guys still got plenty of fans here.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: We are getting by Goma references, Charming or Chach references.
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  Speaker 2: So you are still loved here by many, Nick.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I still love all you guys. I do. I miss,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: I don't miss that studio. That studio drove me crazy.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: The walls made me feel like it was an insane assignment,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: but I miss chopping up with you guys. And I,
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: and I certainly miss the listeners in the beautiful city
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: of Charlotte. We talk about it all the time. That,
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: That stretch was one of the great stretches of our
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: lives with where our girls were and our beautiful little
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: neighborhood there in Ballantyne that we lived in. You know,
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: I certainly love being home and I love being near family,
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: but man, do I miss my Charlotte people more than
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: I can express in this call.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: We have a guy from Cleveland that listens to you.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: He said that, I don't know if this is true,
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: that you say nice things about us. Is that Nick?
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Is that true?
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  Speaker 3: The city of Charlotte or you two?
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: I thought it was, you know, he made it seem
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: like you and I'm back and I came up all
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: I will tell you, um, I make sure to shout
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: out my boys, Mac and bone. If you, if I
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: see something online from you guys and we happen to
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: be talking about the Panthers, I try and shout you
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: guys out. And then not just you guys, everybody at
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: the station, y'all do such a good job. And again,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: I miss you guys. It was, it was a very
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: fun four year stretch.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: All right, brother. We're glad to see you're happy. You're
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: back home. 92-3 in Cleveland. Nick in his hometown, killing
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: it as he always has. Love you, man. Appreciate you, brother.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Good catching up, man. Take it easy.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys. Treat Fitty right. And Fitty, you treat
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  Speaker 3: her right, all right? Treat her like a lady.