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Full Show Podcast: 21 February 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your
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  Speaker 2: Property search Simple News Talks.
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  Speaker 3: It'd be well, good morning, j you welcome to your
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  Speaker 3: Friday of the first full week of the year. You
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  Speaker 3: made it. Coming up on the program today. Now, some
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  Speaker 3: big Chinese warships are loitering off the coasts of Sydney.
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  Speaker 3: What's China up to? We've got a foreign policy expert
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  Speaker 3: in five. What's this weekend's big sporting event? Clue it's
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  Speaker 3: not Rugby. How much had building costs gone up over
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  Speaker 3: the past four years? Actually the number is described as staggering.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk to a management expert who monitors the increasing
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  Speaker 3: bills and child poverty rates in this country continue to
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  Speaker 3: be high. We'll talk to an aid agency at the
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  Speaker 3: frontline of poverty in New Zealand. We'll talk to correspondence
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  Speaker 3: from right around New Zealand and around the world, and
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  Speaker 3: we'll have news as it breaks and you can have
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  Speaker 3: your say by giving me a text. Small charge applies,
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  Speaker 3: and the number is ninety two ninety two and it's
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  Speaker 3: seven after five.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 3: So Friday, the twenty first of February, the Trump Visus.
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  Speaker 3: Zelensky rift continues. The US presidents double down on his comments,
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  Speaker 3: calling President to Zelensky a dictator and saying Russia holds
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  Speaker 3: the cards and peace negotiations because it has taken a
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  Speaker 3: lot of territory.
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  Speaker 4: A dictator without elections. Zelensky better move faster. He's not
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  Speaker 4: going to have a country left. Got to move Gota
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  Speaker 4: wove fast because the war is going in the wrong direction.
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  Speaker 4: In the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the
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  Speaker 4: war with Russia.
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  Speaker 5: I do I think the Russians want to see the
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  Speaker 5: war end, and I do, I really do. But I
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  Speaker 5: think they have the cards a little bit, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: they're they've taken a lot of territory, all right.
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  Speaker 3: And meanwhile, the UK and Norway have reinforced their joint
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  Speaker 3: defense against Russia. The countries say they're committing to enhancing
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  Speaker 3: their critical undersea infrastructure. As Russia's aggression across Europe continues
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  Speaker 3: to grow.
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  Speaker 6: We are able to send the message to any one
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  Speaker 6: who may intend to cause harm to our critical national
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  Speaker 6: infrastructure that we will see you.
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  Speaker 7: We've said, as two European nations that we will step
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  Speaker 7: up further the support we give to Ukraine. Ukraine is
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  Speaker 7: still fighting. We must keep them in the fight. We
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  Speaker 7: must try and keep them strong.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a very difficult day for Israel. Her mass
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  Speaker 3: is returning the dead bodies of four hostages. The Israeli
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  Speaker 3: Defense Force have confirmed coffins have been taken to the
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  Speaker 3: National Institute of Forensic Medicine, where identification of the bodies
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  Speaker 3: has already begun. And while there has not been any
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  Speaker 3: formal identification as yet, they are thought to be Shiri Bibas,
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  Speaker 3: her two young sons, and an eighty three year old
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  Speaker 3: Odd Lifshitz, who was a peace activist and a journalist.
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  Speaker 6: People here in Israel have already begun the mourning for them.
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  Speaker 6: I mean this ranges from the youngest hostage, who was
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  Speaker 6: nine months old at the time that he was taken,
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  Speaker 6: to the oldest, so it spans for generations.
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  Speaker 3: And finally, kiss Gate, Spain's former football federation boss Luise
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  Speaker 3: Rubialis has been found guilty of sexual assault for kissing
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  Speaker 3: player Jenny Homosso without her consent. He was acquitted a
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  Speaker 3: coercion for allegedly trying to pressure her Mosso into saying
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  Speaker 3: publicly that the kiss was consensual. Spain's High Court has
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  Speaker 3: ruled he will have to pay a fine the finders
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  Speaker 3: near the eleven thousand euros. Remember this man, though, has
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  Speaker 3: lost his career. It's ten after five.
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  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
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  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property
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  Speaker 1: Search and symbol us Talk Sippy.
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  Speaker 3: So the Kumar case is a classic. We've seen it
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  Speaker 3: before in these visa cases that go all the way
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  Speaker 3: up to the minister. It puts the minister in an
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  Speaker 3: unenvious position. If he said no, Chris Pink, you're cold
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  Speaker 3: and heartless man. If he says yes, he opens up
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  Speaker 3: the door to many others because he said a precedent.
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  Speaker 3: Eighteen year old Damon Kumar's case highlighted that anyone born
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  Speaker 3: after two thousand and six in New Zealand does not
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  Speaker 3: get automatic citizenship. If you're born here after two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and six, what you get is the most favorable immigration
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  Speaker 3: status that either of your parents have. In Damon's case,
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  Speaker 3: his parents were overstaying, which means even though he was
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  Speaker 3: born here, he's an overstayer. He's lived every day of
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  Speaker 3: his life in New Zealand. But Chris penk gave him
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  Speaker 3: a reprieve. He can say he can stay, but his parents,
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  Speaker 3: who have been here for twenty four years must leave,
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  Speaker 3: which is no one's fault but their own. But it's
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  Speaker 3: still a tragedy for the family. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: The precedent has now been set and the question is
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  Speaker 3: how many other damons are out there? And our public
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  Speaker 3: servants don't have a clue. Immigration in New Zealand says
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  Speaker 3: it has no idea how many children have been born
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  Speaker 3: to parents who had overstayed theirs at visa since two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and six. In fact, they don't even know the
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  Speaker 3: number of overstaying adults, so only did an estimate of
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  Speaker 3: overstayer numbers was eight years ago. So look, I know,
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  Speaker 3: immigrats in New Zealand has a lot to deal with
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  Speaker 3: with over a million visas over the past decade. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: COVID got in the way and all that, and yes
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of paperwork, but you have one job
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  Speaker 3: to figure out who's coming in and to figure out
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  Speaker 3: who's overstaying. The Kumars flew under the radar for nearly
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  Speaker 3: a quarter of a century, so much so that the
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  Speaker 3: case came as a surprise to the Department and it
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  Speaker 3: surprised the minister. It only came to light when a journalist,
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  Speaker 3: Michael Mora brought it up. We should have known this.
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  Speaker 3: People wonder why so many people don't rate the public service. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: rugby's back on tonight. The Chiefs are up against the
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  Speaker 3: Crusaders at seven and live on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 3: and I'm looking forward to it. The question is are
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  Speaker 3: the Crusaders really back up to speed and just how
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  Speaker 3: good are the Chiefs? Tonight I will be happily slumped
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  Speaker 3: in front of the TV after a long week with
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  Speaker 3: a pino noir, and hopefully I'll stay awake until the
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  Speaker 3: last whistle. But the big sporting event involving a ball
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  Speaker 3: is not the rugby. It's good old fashioned football. It's
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  Speaker 3: the third Kiwi Darby in the A League, the new
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  Speaker 3: rivalry between orcandef C and Wellington Phoenix. It's back at Auckland.
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  Speaker 3: A big crowd is expected. This is a great success.
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  Speaker 3: Auklan's won the first two favorite to three peat it
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  Speaker 3: and everyone who's surprised at how well orkandef C has
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  Speaker 3: done in its debut season, I'll tell you the secret.
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  Speaker 3: The secret is Steve Corriker, He's built a wall, watched
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  Speaker 3: the game. Watch Auckland's back for Monster and boss around
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  Speaker 3: the strikers. The fans get it. If you snub out
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  Speaker 3: an attack, you get a raw from the fans. It's
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  Speaker 3: almost as loud as scoring a goal. It's not pretty
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  Speaker 3: to watch, but it's very pretty when they win, or
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  Speaker 3: more appropriately, when they don't lose. And they're extremely fit.
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  Speaker 3: So sorry, Wellington, I think it's Auckland's weekend. And finally,
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  Speaker 3: of course, Joseph Parker versus Daniel Dubois for the heavyweight
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  Speaker 3: Championship of the World. A bloke I know who knows,
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  Speaker 3: reckons that Parker is a forty five percent chance, Dubois
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  Speaker 3: fifty five. You know, forty five for Joseph considering his mindset.
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  Speaker 3: That's good enough for me. It's a thirteen minutes out
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  Speaker 3: to five. So there's a couple of Chinese warships one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty miles off the coast of Sydney. What
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  Speaker 3: are they doing there and what is China trying to
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  Speaker 3: say to us? We'll try and answer that question next.
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  Speaker 3: It's five fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
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  Speaker 2: Andrew dickens and one roof to make your property search simple.
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  Speaker 1: You've talked, said they.
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  Speaker 3: It's sixteen minutes oufter five. So the New Zealand Defense
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  Speaker 3: Force is monitoring activity by a Chinese naval task force.
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  Speaker 3: There are about one hundred and fifty utical miles from
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  Speaker 3: the coast of Sydney. We're watching them. Should we be worried?
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  Speaker 8: So?
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  Speaker 3: Foreign policy analyst Jeffrey Miller joins me now and coomoding
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  Speaker 3: to you, Jeffrey.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, Andrew.
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  Speaker 3: What are they up to?
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  Speaker 8: Well, they're conducting a routine patrol, you might say, which
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  Speaker 8: is what New Zealand also did in the Taiwan straight
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  Speaker 8: last September when the hmn's is out or get sales
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  Speaker 8: through there. So I think it is a sign of
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  Speaker 8: heightened tensions, it is something that hasn't happened before, or
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  Speaker 8: it is significant. Two hundred and seventy eight kilometers off
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  Speaker 8: the coast of Sydney there is where those ships were
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  Speaker 8: reportedly where they reportedly were around twenty four hours ago.
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  Speaker 8: So it is significant. But I think we need to
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  Speaker 8: be careful of not We need to be careful not
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  Speaker 8: to overreact to all of this, as well as the
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  Speaker 8: Australian Defense Minister y Say Richard Miles said, you know,
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  Speaker 8: they're fully entitled to be there directing in importance with
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  Speaker 8: international law. They're not in Australian territorial waters, and I
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  Speaker 8: think we just need to calm down a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, well, the Chinese know the rules. And of course
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  Speaker 3: you've got to remember that the commander of the US
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  Speaker 3: Indo Pacific Command, Admiral Samuel Papparo, happens to be in
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  Speaker 3: Australia right now and he's meeting the Australia Chief of
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  Speaker 3: Joint Operations in Canberra, so you know that's happening there.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a bit of saber rattling happening out in
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  Speaker 3: the sea.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, he there's a lot going on. I mean, I
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  Speaker 8: don't think it's probably a direct response to that. You
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  Speaker 8: don't sail down a frigate at a moment's notice. That
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  Speaker 8: takes time to plan. These things does coincide though, with
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  Speaker 8: the beginning of a new Trump administration, but I think
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  Speaker 8: there are some really concerning developments. While we've all been
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  Speaker 8: fixated on what's happening in Washington with Trump's statements, we've
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  Speaker 8: had several close calls in the South China Sea, including
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  Speaker 8: involving an Australian aircraft just quite recently around ten days ago,
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  Speaker 8: and there was another one with the Philippines aircraft and
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  Speaker 8: a Chinese helicopter just a couple of days ago. The
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  Speaker 8: US tested an intercontinental ballistic missile into the Pacific this week,
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  Speaker 8: reciprocating a Chinese test last year. Things are not getting
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  Speaker 8: any better than the Endo Pacific in terms of the tensions.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's imperatives that New Zealand continue to uphold
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  Speaker 8: dialogue and Winston Peters is on his way to China
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  Speaker 8: in the next ten days or so and where we
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  Speaker 8: will meet with his counterpart one year. I think it's
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  Speaker 8: really really important that he sits down in that they
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  Speaker 8: have a fallen, frank and productive discussion on all of
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  Speaker 8: all these matters. Because when you add and also what's
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  Speaker 8: been happening with New Zealand's position on the Clock Islands,
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  Speaker 8: I think this be watched in Beijing and perhaps New
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  Speaker 8: Zealand's decided to come out with a more aggressive posturing
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  Speaker 8: towards China this year. Perhaps it's to make the case
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  Speaker 8: more for greater defense spending. Remember we're still waiting on
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  Speaker 8: the defense Capability Plan that's coming out in the coming months,
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  Speaker 8: and defense spending is going to go up to probably
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  Speaker 8: close to two percent of GDP.
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  Speaker 3: What an excellent answer, Jeffrey. I have to say, you
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  Speaker 3: just answered three questions that I was going to ask
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  Speaker 3: you in one answer. So I thank you so much
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  Speaker 3: for your time. That is Jeffrey Miller, foreign policy expert,
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  Speaker 3: knows what he's talking about. But yes, Winston's going to China.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to talk about the Pacific, not just the
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  Speaker 3: Cork Islands. Yes, our defense spending is low, and now
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  Speaker 3: we're going to have to talk about it because the
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  Speaker 3: whole world is talking about defense spending. Interesting days. Though
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  Speaker 3: I'm old enough to know that I'm worried about the
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  Speaker 3: end of the world a lot from time to time,
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  Speaker 3: and so far it hasn't happened, and I remain hopeful.
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  Speaker 8: Now.
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  Speaker 3: On the way you I believe just how much it
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  Speaker 3: cost to builder house these days? Is a fellow who's
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  Speaker 3: down in christ Church, has names like Blackbird, and he
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  Speaker 3: monitors all this stuff and writes reports for people, and
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  Speaker 3: he will tell you exactly how expensive it is now
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  Speaker 3: compared to what it was four years ago. That's next.
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  Speaker 3: It'd be Yeah five twenty two. We've got a text
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  Speaker 3: from christ says Andrew with respect to the Kumars. What
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to know is how the parents and the
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  Speaker 3: sun have managed to live all these years. Where's the
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  Speaker 3: money come from for all the essentials food, housing, clothing, power, transport?
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  Speaker 3: Did they get some kind of welfare assistance? Chris applauds
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  Speaker 3: the decision to send in the parents' home. Yet twenty
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  Speaker 3: four years the Kumas were here. They must have got
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  Speaker 3: phone contracts, they must have paid tax, maybe they got loans,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they went to the doctor. There were so many
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  Speaker 3: times when they interacted with the state and someone might
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  Speaker 3: have gone, hold on, are you legal? But nobody did
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  Speaker 3: for twenty four years. Yeah, five twenty two right the
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven actions, So No. Five twenty two, five twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: The new qv Cost Builder study shows that there has
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  Speaker 3: been a huge increase to building costs over the past
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  Speaker 3: four years. The study looked at the comparative cost of
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  Speaker 3: a standard one hundred and fifty meter square home over
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  Speaker 3: six main centers. The average increase was described as staggering.
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  Speaker 3: The number is forty four percent, four percent more expensive
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  Speaker 3: than four years ago. Biggest increases part of the north
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  Speaker 3: Tonedin and Wellington. Mike Blackburn of Blackburn Management as a
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  Speaker 3: construction analyst and joins me, Now, how are Mike.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning, Andrew, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good. I remember the great JIB crisis during the
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  Speaker 3: COVID and of course at supply chain crisis, but then
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  Speaker 3: I thought we got over that, So where are all
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  Speaker 3: these costs coming from?
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  Speaker 9: Well, look, Andrew, you are ed absolutely correct. So because
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  Speaker 9: this report does cover that four year period back to
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  Speaker 9: twenty twenty one, the most of those increases would have
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  Speaker 9: occurred during that twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two period. Look,
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  Speaker 9: the really, really good news is is that for the
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  Speaker 9: last twelve months, the increase and I measure this on
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  Speaker 9: a cost per square meter basis, the increase across average
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  Speaker 9: across all of New Zealand is only three percent, So
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  Speaker 9: the bulk of those increases occurred during that period. Now,
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  Speaker 9: also bear in mind is that during that twenty twenty
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  Speaker 9: one and twenty twenty two period we actually went through
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  Speaker 9: the biggest building construction boom that New Zealand has ever seen.
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  Speaker 9: And of course, from twenty twenty two through to twenty
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  Speaker 9: twenty four, building consent numbers have fallen away quite significantly.
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  Speaker 9: And of course the feature of the construction industry is
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  Speaker 9: that as the market gets quieter, builders, merchants and builders
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  Speaker 9: and developers become a lot more competitive. So we certainly
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  Speaker 9: had seen a significant slow down in the increase in
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  Speaker 9: the cost of building over this last two year period.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still forty four percent more expensive than
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  Speaker 3: it was four or five six years ago. Someone has
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  Speaker 3: to hold that cost now. Just looking at the products
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  Speaker 3: we import a lot of should we do that less?
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  Speaker 3: Should we be making more?
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  Speaker 9: Well, look, look, a large percentage of building materials are
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  Speaker 9: manufactured here in New Zealand, or at least from raw materials.
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  Speaker 9: We sort of see a lot of all the aluminium
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  Speaker 9: windows are sort of assembled here in New Zealand. Obviously,
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  Speaker 9: timber framing, a lot of that sort of stuff. One
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  Speaker 9: of the things that the proposed new government legislation is
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  Speaker 9: looking at doing is looking at making it easier to
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  Speaker 9: bring alternative products into New Zealand so that we're not
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  Speaker 9: sort of limited to just the handful of products that
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  Speaker 9: are currently coming in, and of course all of these
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  Speaker 9: things will contribute to making it easier, simpler and cheaper
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  Speaker 9: to build.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Mike, I thank you Mike Blackburn. He's a
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  Speaker 3: management consultant business advisor, works across business companies and developers
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  Speaker 3: and professionals. And each month Mike produces a variety of
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  Speaker 3: detailed reports and analysis of all sorts of building consent activity.
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  Speaker 3: So you can google him and you can find and
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: then you can read his thoughts anytime you like. It
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  Speaker 3: is five twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: It's News Talks FB, the early edition full show podcast
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  Speaker 3: Newstalks it B can we get Parliment back to work?
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  Speaker 3: Just saying at a time when the Prime Minister is
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  Speaker 3: urging us to work, work, work, work, work for growth, growth, growth, growth, growth,
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  Speaker 3: Parliament's playing around with all sorts of unproductive publicity stunts.
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  Speaker 3: So we had Winston. He's still banging on two days
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  Speaker 3: later about using Altai Rah in the House. Ten minutes
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  Speaker 3: debating time was spent on the topic yesterday. There's no
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  Speaker 3: bill on the floor asking for a name change. We
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  Speaker 3: know the sorts of people who like to feel good
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  Speaker 3: by saying altail raw New Zealand. But it's not a thing.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever happened to free speech? By the way, Winston if
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Ricardo wants to say, Artiro, just roll your eyes and
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  Speaker 3: move on. No bill, no story, but a lot of
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: time debating, and Winston's voters, you know, are lapping it up. Look,
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you're entertained. Meanwhile, the Treaty Principles Bill continues
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: to frustrate. Yesterday we had Jenny Shipley and Chrisphinnisson turning
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: up to rail against the law and they really did
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: rail against it too. Earlier Hekia Parata had a crack.
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  Speaker 3: It is quite amazing to see the parade of National
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Party grongdes who have been so keen to come out
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  Speaker 3: against the bill, which shows that the bill is not
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  Speaker 3: part of the National Party DNA. It never has been.
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  Speaker 3: And we know this because we know the bill's not
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  Speaker 3: going through. Asked the Prime Minister. It is a plaything
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  Speaker 3: of act and it's eight percent support and no disrespect
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  Speaker 3: to those people. I know you care deeply about the
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  Speaker 3: general idea, but frankly the bill is a dog badly
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  Speaker 3: written and you don't have any coalition partner supporting it.
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  Speaker 3: It is sucking up vayable time and energy and money.
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  Speaker 3: It's doing nothing for our productivity or our economy. And
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  Speaker 3: that is the number one thing right now. It's not
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  Speaker 3: going to happen. And yet the fast rumbles on. Glad, Glad,
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  Speaker 3: you're entertained, dicads. Sorry that was a dramatic pause, and
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Kenzie hit the play me some music, Kenzing, play me
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: some Lab. It's Electric Avenue this weekend in Christi. It's
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: this is the biggest festival in the Southern Hemisphere and
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: all sorts of people are playing. Unbelievably, the Prodigy are playing.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I saw the Prodigy years ago at a big day
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: out in of course the fire started. Lead singer Keith
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Flint has since passed, but they've managed to find another
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: wind in their back. And here is a New Zealand band,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Lab who's going to be playing at the gig as well.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a big one. Have fune some
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Hagley all right, we got news in just a few
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: hours time and going to tell you about an exploding
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: e scooter and later, of course child poverty. This is
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: early edition imtre Dickens and this is Newstalk Zipby.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Property Search simple used talk Zibby.
• 18:04
  Speaker 10: You probably know the.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Song as a Empire of the Sun, and they're playing
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: at Electric Avenue in christ Church. I asked Kenzick, my producer,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: how many people go into this thing? Thirty twenty thousand?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: She said, seventy seventy thousand people. This is a big
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: gig and it's happening in Hagley Park this weekend. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: was listening to the news just now and I heard
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: them talking about the oriental fruit fly, and I thought
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: to myself, how amazing that New Zealand public servants can
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: find an oriental fruit fly somewhere in the suburb, a
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: little week tiny fruit fly, and yet they couldn't find
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: the overstained kumars for over twenty four years. Another story
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: that's taking my eye is a charging battery has burst
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: into flames, destroying a home and killing two two cats.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Two cats died in the conflagration. It was a battery
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: that was part of an electric motorcycle. It was left
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: charging the owner was having a shower, and the owner
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: was listening to music, probably some Empire of the Sun,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: and by the time, the neighbors actually knocked the way
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: into the house and said, make your house is on fire.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: The house was too far gone, the cat's days were numbered,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: and the owners have been left with nothing. And it
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: happens this sort of explosion not often, but enough. A
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: friend of mine had a scooter explode in her garage
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: because she overcharged it. The garage was a total write off.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: It took a year to fix and to get rid
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: of the smell. Now my family uses electric scooters and
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: electric bikes to commute. I know we're those sorts of people.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: We are concerned enough that we actually built a lean
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to outside and we put some power in and we
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: make sure all the charging happens outside the house, and
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: all the charging happens while we're around with timers on
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: our watches, just to make sure that it doesn't blow up.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I was just saying that that's just a tip for
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: young players and texts that have come through in ninety
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: two ninety two. I've got to say this, Karen, thank you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: The treaty has had no influence on my reality at
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: all and never will. And Karen also says, be interesting
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: to see how much law are being paid to show
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: up to the Treaty Principal's Bill Select Committee. It is
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: another cravy train, Yes it is, and isn't that ironic?
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens run the country?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: We go Callen Procter? Is it otago?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Hello?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Callum morning? Andrew So Environment Southland and wetland losses and
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: the High Court?
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: This was a ruling that High Court issued earlier this
• 20:22
  Speaker 11: week saying that Environments Southend failed to act against huge
• 20:27
  Speaker 11: wetland losses. Excuse me, the High Court saying that the
• 20:31
  Speaker 11: council failed to monitor and take action to protect wetlands
• 20:34
  Speaker 11: with massive amounts loss due to conversion to pasture. The
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: Environmental Law Initiatives described this as a landmark win for itself,
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: but says it's shocked at the lack of action. Between
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: ninety six and twenty eighteen, half of New Zealand's wetland
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: losses occurred in Southend. Environment south and now says that
• 20:52
  Speaker 11: they've provided clarification for its obligations and the issues are
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: addressed in its new Water and Land Plan.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Belts to that in the country. Dot co dot had
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: how's dinedin's weather.
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: Chance for shower or two today high of twenty.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Claire Sherwerd joins me now from Christier Telly Claire.
• 21:10
  Speaker 12: About Electric Avenue. Can you hear me the Andrew we.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Can now My question for you, are you going to
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Electric Avenue, because it sounds like the whole city is.
• 21:18
  Speaker 12: I feel like I'm the only one who's not going
• 21:20
  Speaker 12: everyone else's. I think I've got all of the reporters
• 21:22
  Speaker 12: heading there, all of my sisters, all of my friends,
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: They're all off. They'll be joining about seventy thousand. As
• 21:28
  Speaker 12: you said at Hagley Avenue. This is the first year
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: that it runs across two days as well, which is
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: a pretty big deal. There has been unprecedented demand this year,
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: so we know that not only did it sell out
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: back in September, there's also a wait list of about
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: twenty thousand people and on any Facebook page you've got
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: tickets going for a premium now. The festival director, Callum Mitchell,
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: says the response was better than he even imagined. He
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: said the move to a two day event and the
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: range of international acts has been what's helped create a
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: lot of interest. He's expecting an emotional performance by UK
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: rock band and headline is The Prodigy, as the last
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: time they performed before the band member Keith Flint passed away,
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: was right here in New Zealand.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: So that's a nice touch exactly. That's why I was
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: surprised that they were coming, because Keith was a piece
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: of work. Keith was he was the original fire star. Hey,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: how's the weather for the weekend for Electric Avenue.
• 22:19
  Speaker 12: Well, today's not looking as good. Could be some heavy
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: and thundery showers this morning, westerlies turning southerly, clearing and
• 22:25
  Speaker 12: a high of eighteen, but things to improve tomorrow.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Maxtel joined us from Wellington Helmx Good morning. A one
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: punch killer sentence to prison.
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah, a very sad case. Twenty one year old Luke
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: Smith was killed in an unprovoked attack at the end
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: of a night out on Courtney Place in October. He
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: and his family had only eight months earlier emigrated to
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: New Zealand from South Africa seeking a better life. Yesterday afternoon,
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: twenty nine year old Sally was sentenced at the High
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: Court in Wellington more than two years about two years
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: behind bars the man's laughter. He had apparently punched Smith
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: for no apparent reason. Smith's family were in court yesterday,
• 23:06
  Speaker 10: his father telling the court that the day Sally killed Luke,
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: he had killed them as well, the parents. The father
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: has since set up a foundation in his son's name. Yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: absolute tragedy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: All right, how'd your weather party?
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: Cloudy today with occasional showers getting up into the mid twenties.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Have a good weekend, Max and Neva leti man who
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: joins me from Aukland.
• 23:28
  Speaker 13: Hello, mourning.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: So level crossings in Auckland, they are pain and the proverbial.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Now the government, the good line, wants.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: To get rid of them.
• 23:36
  Speaker 13: Yes, well, look what's happening now is that it's planning
• 23:38
  Speaker 13: to spend up to two hundred million dollars removing level
• 23:41
  Speaker 13: crossings here in Auckland. So Chris Bishop, the Transport minister,
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: he's expected to announce the investment today, Andrew and that
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: would see like seven level crossings this hasn't taken in
• 23:51
  Speaker 13: and Glen Ennis removed. Now they'll be replaced by these
• 23:55
  Speaker 13: new road bridges and station excess bridges. So that work
• 23:59
  Speaker 13: is expected to be completed around the time the City
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: rail Link opens next year. Bishop says, Look, this should
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: be quite good because people can experience the CRL's full
• 24:08
  Speaker 13: benefits and these removals will allow the frequent trains to
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: travel more along those lines.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: But this thing, I mean, I support this thing. It's
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: going to be a revolution. We're gonna love it for
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: the next twenty or thirty years. But it keeps on
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: getting more expensive every day.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 24:20
  Speaker 13: And what months?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 24:22
  Speaker 13: Like that's why we haven't actually said, you know, it's
• 24:24
  Speaker 13: going to open. It will open, but when? What months? When?
• 24:26
  Speaker 13: But that funding is subject to approval by the NZTA board.
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: That's going to happen in April.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, Orkin's with it today.
• 24:32
  Speaker 13: Cloudy showers mainly those showers mainly this afternoon here in Auckland.
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: Today's hight twenty five.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: And I thank you so much, Graham Rights Andrew. Two
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: days ago two houses burnt to Milldale in one fire
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: cause electric car charging. Health and Safety should ban them, really,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: they're a major hazard. Or maybe they should just invent
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: a battery that doesn't actually blow up. And Joan writes
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of Indians like the Kumar overstairs,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and yes there are. And it's about time the immigration
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: department got on top of the thing. Sixteen minutes to six,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: We're off to Europe in a moment with Vincent McAvennie
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: as the war of words continues between President Trump and
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: President Zelenski and before six the dire strait is the
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: dire state of child poverty in this country. And we'll
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: go to the front line and just hear just how
• 25:17
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  Speaker 3: It is thirteen to six. Vincent Mecavini joins me from Europe. Hello, Vincent, Hi,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: good morning. So what's the reaction to the war of
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: words between Presidents Zelensky and Trump.
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: Well, a huge reaction in what has been a world
• 26:41
  Speaker 14: wind week of diplomacy where Europe's sort of foundation belief
• 26:45
  Speaker 14: in the Transatlantic Alliance has really been shaken. So President
• 26:49
  Speaker 14: Trump numerous times now coming out and criticizing President Zelenski,
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: effectively trumpeting Kremlin propaganda lines, calling him a dictator, questioning
• 26:59
  Speaker 14: why he hasn't done elections, which is fully legal within
• 27:03
  Speaker 14: the Ukrainian martial law, saying that he's not very popular
• 27:06
  Speaker 14: when he does still enjoy a decent amount of popularity,
• 27:10
  Speaker 14: and saying Russia has all the cards sounding very sympathetic
• 27:12
  Speaker 14: to Vladimir Putin, and we know that. You know, Donald
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: Trump is trying to get as Zelenski to sign a
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: deal for rare earth minerals that are in Ukraine, which
• 27:23
  Speaker 14: could be something that you know, is a good card
• 27:26
  Speaker 14: for Ukraine to play. But simply Donald Trump wants those
• 27:29
  Speaker 14: minerals without any kind of security deal or backing. So
• 27:33
  Speaker 14: President Zelenski is in a very difficult position. But many
• 27:36
  Speaker 14: European leaders, including Sakir Starmer, the UK Prime Minister, and
• 27:39
  Speaker 14: German Charles the Schultz coming to his aid and saying
• 27:42
  Speaker 14: this is completely wrong. This is a lie.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, but it shows you that if you decide to
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: take on President Trump in a war of words, he
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: doesn't step back. In fact, he always wants the last
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: word and he's quite heavy to ramp it all up.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: So well, welcome to the new reality. Okay, Spain's next
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: football boss, Luis Ruby Alie Hairs been fined. He got
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: guilty of some stuff and not guilty of other.
• 28:06
  Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right. You might remember the Woman's World Cup
• 28:08
  Speaker 14: final down in sidneya you guys in twenty twenty three,
• 28:12
  Speaker 14: where Spain's team won and the Federation Football Federation boss
• 28:17
  Speaker 14: Luise ruby Alis just sort of grabbed one of the
• 28:20
  Speaker 14: players and kissed her and she seemed quite stunned by
• 28:23
  Speaker 14: it and said afterwards that it made her uncomfortable. Well,
• 28:27
  Speaker 14: he has been found guilty of sexual assault for kissing
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: at Jenny Hormoso without her consents, and he's been ordered
• 28:34
  Speaker 14: to pay a fine of over ten thousand euros by
• 28:37
  Speaker 14: Spain's High Course. And this created, of course a lot
• 28:40
  Speaker 14: of conversation at the time about what behaviors are acceptable
• 28:44
  Speaker 14: and not and it's sort of spawned a bit of
• 28:47
  Speaker 14: a me too movement in Spain in the subsequent years.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, it was a good thing
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: that had happened that you can see the final of course,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: he's lost his career, but you know, asked for a
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: ysplus and I thank you so much. Have a great
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: week in Vincent Mecavini, Europe. The time is now ten
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: to six seconds. There has been no change to child
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: poverty in the last year. Data released yesterday by Stat's
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: New Zealand shows that seventeen point seven percent of all
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: children are in poverty and that is based on household
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: income after housing costs have been paid. So save the
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Children in New Zealand's advocacy and research director as Jackie South,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: who joins me.
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: Now, hello, Jackie Childer Andrew.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Did you have any confidence that maybe the figures will
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: be better or were you expecting this?
• 29:32
  Speaker 15: We were expecting this. We've we are coming off the
• 29:35
  Speaker 15: back of a period of very high living costs, high inflation.
• 29:39
  Speaker 15: We're also seeing that there's a lot of financial strife
• 29:42
  Speaker 15: out there and people.
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: Have lost their jobs.
• 29:44
  Speaker 15: People are really feeling the cost of living, and we
• 29:47
  Speaker 15: know that we're in a recession.
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: So we didn't expect a rosy picture.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Are you expecting it to give rosier or do you
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: think this will continue on in the medium term.
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: Well, Unlessie makes significant change to the way that people
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: can access housing and that make it more affordable, whether
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: renting or owning a home, and also lift the lowest
• 30:07
  Speaker 15: incomes of the lowest income families, particularly for soule parent families,
• 30:11
  Speaker 15: this is not going to significantly change.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: So seventeen point seven percent of all children are in
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: poverty based on household income after housing costs have been
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: taken out of the equation. So does that show that
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: the housing costs are the real issue in this country?
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: Absolutely?
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: We can see that the families on the lost incomes
• 30:29
  Speaker 15: to spending more than forty percent of their income on housing,
• 30:33
  Speaker 15: and that compares to twenty percent as a national average.
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: And so quite simply, it's not affordable.
• 30:40
  Speaker 15: It doesn't leave enough money to pay for the other
• 30:42
  Speaker 15: necessities in life, such as the energy costs, food costs,
• 30:45
  Speaker 15: to be able to service your car and make sure
• 30:47
  Speaker 15: you've got a decent car, money to get you where
• 30:49
  Speaker 15: you need to go.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: So look, I had an interview earlier this morning where
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I was talking to a guy about the cost of building,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: and it's gone up forty four percent over the last
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: four years. Housing's not getting any more affordable. We know
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: this is the problem. We have been trying to fix
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: it for an age. So do you have any great
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: ideas about how the government could tackle child poverty, because
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: so far, with all the will in the world, it
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: hasn't worked well.
• 31:12
  Speaker 15: I think we've seen some changes in the way we
• 31:14
  Speaker 15: build houses and the sort of houses we need. You know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 15: for a long type of decades we were building very
• 31:19
  Speaker 15: big homes, multi bedroom, very expensive, and we've seen that
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: people have gone towards and more lest the kits at home,
• 31:26
  Speaker 15: and they've really improved in quality, they're more compact, they're
• 31:30
  Speaker 15: cheaper to build, and you know, that's a potential way
• 31:33
  Speaker 15: of solving our issues as looking at how can we
• 31:35
  Speaker 15: build smaller, better, good quality homes but are definitely more affordable.
• 31:39
  Speaker 15: And the other thing is we need to look at,
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: you know, the lowest incomes and that's for our sole
• 31:44
  Speaker 15: parent families. They're struggling on forty six thousand per annum
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: disposable income and that's absolutely shockingly low by any measure
• 31:53
  Speaker 15: for a family to be trying to live on in
• 31:55
  Speaker 15: this day and age. Amongst the costs that we face
• 31:57
  Speaker 15: for base living.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Jackie, you faced and thank you for all the work
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: you do. Jackie is Save the Children, New Zealand's advocacy
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: and research director. And this is News Talks. Here'd be
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: It's seven to six and MICA's next.
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  Speaker 2: The News you Need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 1: News Talks.
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  Speaker 3: It be so earlier this morning. I compared the ability
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: of the state to find an oriental fruit fly in
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: a suburb compared to their ability to find an overstayer
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: who's been here for twenty four years, and that's, of
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: course the Kumar case. Sean writes to me. More, the
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: reason they can find a fruit flyer is because they
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: set a trap. If traps were set to find overstayers,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: they'd likely find hundreds. And fair enough, you've got to say,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: twenty four years. How on earth did they do it? Uh,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: my costume joins me, Now, good morning.
• 32:45
  Speaker 16: The reason they did it. So we talked about that
• 32:46
  Speaker 16: earlier on and people were under the impression that departments
• 32:51
  Speaker 16: sheer information, which of course they don't.
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: I don't.
• 32:53
  Speaker 16: So when you pay your tax, if you set up
• 32:56
  Speaker 16: your own company, you come to the country, you set
• 32:57
  Speaker 16: up your own company, you pay your tax, the ID
• 32:59
  Speaker 16: receives your tax. I wonder if you're an overstay, you
• 33:01
  Speaker 16: don't think about that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: That's something to think about.
• 33:04
  Speaker 16: Well, that's well, how many reports over the years, because
• 33:06
  Speaker 16: you've been around long enough, how many reports over the
• 33:08
  Speaker 16: years that have gone into the public service have they done?
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  Speaker 10: Going?
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  Speaker 16: There's not enough sharing of information and so it's the
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  Speaker 16: same problem.
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  Speaker 3: With the computer systems are atrocious. Examine the Health Department,
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  Speaker 3: the ancient the platforms that they're on ancient. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to cost billions. Effects but that's just yet another problem.
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  Speaker 3: I like your haircuts well, because you've got rid of
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  Speaker 3: the summer mop.
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  Speaker 16: No, no, last time. I don't want to name names,
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  Speaker 16: and I won't, but my hairdresser was away, so the
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  Speaker 16: sub came in. The sub came in, and he's done
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  Speaker 16: it before, so I wasn't a sub on one off,
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  Speaker 16: but he done it for any Unfortunately, at the end
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  Speaker 16: of it, he went, actually, I'm really pleased with that,
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  Speaker 16: not interested in what you think, and so you're there
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  Speaker 16: to grow out. And so what happened was because I'm
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  Speaker 16: doing it back to the mast. That was three weeks growth.
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  Speaker 16: Three weeks ago. Yeah, so three weeks so Greg was back,
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  Speaker 16: and so yesterday we.
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  Speaker 3: Got back to you. I thought, you're getting rid of
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: the summer mop. And then I thought, now has he
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: got rid of the crocs?
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  Speaker 16: How much I hate to think one eighty eight and
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  Speaker 16: people ridicule me for that, but look at it.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta go.
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  Speaker 16: How good do I look?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful? Rudimentel Son comes up there playing Electric Avenue. I'm
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Dickens. Thank you, Kensey. See you next week.
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