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There Is a Big Bell · The Harvest Season

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  01015DBC-5AC6-49A4-858F-129183C10745: Theme Tune: I'll see you next time
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Hello farmers, and welcome to another episode of The Harvest Season. My name is Al.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And we're here today to talk about, well, Cottagecore games, but I mean, we're only talking about one today.
• 0:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Let's be honest. I mean, we might talk about, we will probably talk about two, because I suspect we'll have,
• 0:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: we will mention Stardew, because we always have to mention Stardew when we're talking about a Stardew like, right?
• 0:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It's inevitable, I think, honestly.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Welcome back, Kelly. It's time for another Fields of Mistria episode.
• 0:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yay, I'm so glad it finally came out.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but it was very satisfying to me that the 1.0 of Fields of Mistria came out exactly to the day, two years after the Early Access came out.
• 1:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh I did not realize that actually.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: The 5th of August, the exact same day. Isn't that sad?
• 1:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: That is really nice. Also I feel like that's not a bad um wait for you know unfortunately
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: an early access game at this point in um the gaming world.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I think two years is fine. I think one, you know, so I am going to go out on a limb and say that I think it should be less than one year.
• 1:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think if if it's longer than a year, you're not doing an early access. You're just throwing some vague proof of concepts in front.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I feel like it's it's more of like a you're throwing it out to the audience to see what the audience wants and then using us as like a test subject to.
• 1:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, exactly. And I think it's fine. I know one part of Early Access is obviously getting feedback and figuring out what's worked and what hasn't. And obviously there's a lot that we'll talk about about this game that has done that. But I also think that you can take that too far and it just ends up being designed by committee.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: absolutely yeah I agree and also I think um at a certain point you start to lose the
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the draw that like or the following and the excitement yeah exactly
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: People aren't talking about Fields of Mistria the way they were two years ago.
• 2:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It was everywhere two years ago.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah which is like honestly why I do tend to avoid early access games because like sometimes
• 2:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I only started playing it because it was everywhere.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And then this year, it's like I don't really hear people talking about it.
• 2:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So I feel like it fell off in that early act.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: there's an issue with how much
• 2:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: can I replay it?
• 2:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Depending on how much they put in the game
• 2:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: in the first place.
• 2:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We will definitely talk about that.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And then also it's like, you know,
• 2:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: if it's, I'll just, other games come up, you know?
• 2:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And it's hard to want to go back to a game
• 2:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that you've played a lot
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah. Especially, I mean, two years is enough time for standards to change in games. And so I think, I'm not saying this is the case with Fields of Mistria, but it wouldn't be rare for me to come back to a game two years later and go, no, this isn't fun anymore. Even if it's better than it was two years ago, it's not fun anymore because my standards have changed.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I, I, again, I don't think this applies to Mystria, but I just, in a general sense. Yeah.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I actually think I've started feeling that with Stardew Valley.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, interesting. I mean, to be fair, uh, what are we at now? 15 years ago?
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, well, that's the thing.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But the problem is there's like fundamental things
• 3:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that I think have changed in the standards of people
• 3:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and certainly my standards that I don't think Concerned Ape
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, and like, well, maybe when he releases his new game, we'll have different fundamentals.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is ever going to change.
• 3:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And I think that's possibly a me problem.
• 3:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We'll see.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I told
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I don't know because one of the things that I've really gotten into recently in the last couple of years is jumping in games, which we can jump in this game. We'll talk about that. I just, I find it really frustrating now when I play a farming game and I can't jump. It's just, it doesn't feel as good.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I don't know either.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - Mm, mm-hmm, I do love that, yeah.
• 4:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, no, I agree with that. I really like the jumping mechanic in this game. I use it a lot. Yeah.
• 4:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: we will get to that we will get to that right let's let's right let's let's pause here because
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 4:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: we're about we're about to fall headfirst into the Fields of Mistria discussion um before we
• 4:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: talk about Fields of Mistria we've not got any news this episode not because there isn't news
• 4:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but because there's too much news uh and and and we want to keep this one nice and kind of tight
• 4:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: tight episode so i'm gonna shunt all of the news into next week we're gonna do a bumper news episode
• 4:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: next week cover everything um so we're not going to do that
• 4:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: this episode however we do still have kelly what have you been up to and it doesn't have to just be
• 5:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: games it can be other things if you're watching things if you're listening to things reading things
• 5:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: You actually, you read my mind because I did put a show on my list, because I've mostly been just playing Mistria since you asked me if I wanted to do this.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah that's how it goes
• 5:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh goodness
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And I think I put like, you know, 60 something hours in and like the so it's definitely been time consuming.
• 5:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I did just finish. I spent the summer slowly watching The Expanse.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Ah, so I have, I want you to sell me on this because I haven't watched it. And people keep telling me that I would like it. But to me, it feels like all of the boring politics bits from other sci-fi shows shoved into one. Tell me if I'm wrong.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So I do think politics is a big aspect of the show, but I think it also it's an undercurrent that is throughout the show, but it's not the main draw, I would say.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, I do think it forms a lot of the plot lines and it is always there and there is always going to be politics because it is very much a show about like space as like a frontier and colonialism and the treatment of people and stuff like that as well.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Which, I mean, that's...
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: That's also politics, but...
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: That's sci-fi.
• 6:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, that's sci-fi for you.
• 6:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It's always gonna...
• 6:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think most good sci-fi should touch on some sort of politics in that sense.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So there is that.
• 6:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: However, I do think it was an extremely interesting show.
• 6:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, I really liked all of the plot lines that they went through.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: The way that they developed it over the years.
• 6:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: They used a ton of practical effects.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Costumes that they built themselves and stuff.
• 6:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And of course, it's sci-fi.
• 6:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: There's gonna be, like, CGI and stuff, too.
• 6:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I would say it's not like Star Wars Episode II or something.
• 6:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
• 6:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, you know what I mean?
• 6:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It's not like, you know, they're all sitting around in the Senate always discussing politics.
• 7:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, politics is a part of it because that's life, I guess.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I think there's a lot more interesting things going on throughout the show, too.
• 7:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Okay, okay.
• 7:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: How does it hold up for, because it's six seasons, right?
• 7:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Does it continue?
• 7:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Does it stay kind of level in terms of its quality?
• 7:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, I would say until the last season.
• 7:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Ah, see, that's the problem.
• 7:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So they got they got like bought by Amazon like three seasons in.
• 7:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: God.
• 7:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 7:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And like, honestly, that didn't really change much.
• 7:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But the last season is only like six episodes.
• 7:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And it's it just feels like rushed.
• 7:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It doesn't have like the same like commitment to characters and everything.
• 7:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I would say that like previous seasons have done.
• 7:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 7:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And like, it's still a good plot line, but it is all based off books.
• 7:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And like, I think apparently they covered most of that book in that season.
• 8:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So I don't know why they made it so short.
• 8:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think it was maybe after COVID.
• 8:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But like, so it was still an enjoyable season, but it just felt like areas that they would have explored further in other seasons didn't get the same level of treatment.
• 8:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Okay, so it's left you wanting more rather than it was actively bad, right?
• 8:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes.
• 8:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's not like another show I've not seen, a Game of Thrones, which people complain about in different ways.
• 8:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, it's not bad.
• 8:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, no, no, no, no, it's like, it's like they left you on a cliffhanger and there's a possibility that they might do more with the show but there's like no real discussion on it.
• 8:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: hmm I yeah okay I i think the thing is right about I so obviously generally I don't like
• 8:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: things ending in cliffhangers um when especially when they know they're going to finish um but i
• 8:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: think the thing about that is I try not to be too annoyed about that because that's how life is
• 8:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: right like we we sometimes want shows and films to be like tie up in a neat little bit of the end
• 8:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, yeah.
• 8:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 8:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: bow in the end and you're like, oh,
• 9:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: everyone lived happily ever after or ever
• 9:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and lived dead ever after or whatever,
• 9:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you know, like there's a conclusion, but that's not
• 9:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: how life is. And so in a way, it almost
• 9:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 9:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: feels unrealistic to expect that all the time.
• 9:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, and I agree with that, which is why I don't think that upsets me.
• 9:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, I think that's kind of fine as long as you do it well.
• 9:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like ambiguity at the end is fine because I've had like,
• 9:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 9:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I read so many books as a kid,
• 9:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so many of them and in an ambiguous manner and it's up to the reader to
• 9:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: decide like what you think happened with those characters,
• 9:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: which I think is kind of fun.
• 9:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yes I do like that so like the the typical like um oh what's it called uh what's the nolan film
• 9:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that does that inception no no memento is not really so uh vague as more just like
• 9:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: uh yes okay I was like all I could think he was memento and I was like I don't think that's
• 9:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the right yeah no it's not I think my brain's just a little broken from the cold
• 9:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no yeah so so um uh I forgot the word name again inception this is the second second day in a row
• 9:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: inception yes yeah
• 10:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: i've forgotten the name of inception and i've had to try and figure it out so I i think that for
• 10:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: example I i like that sort of thing it's not really a cliffhanger it's more you don't get the
• 10:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 10:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 10:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: satisfaction of this that's the point the point is you don't get to know um and and I actually like
• 10:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And I think that...
• 10:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that sort of thing because it leads to discussion it leads to people being like this is what I think
• 10:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 10:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I actually quite like that there's lots of other things I can't think of any off the top of
• 10:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: my head but there's lots of other shows and films that do that sort of thing that I like it's like
• 10:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you don't get 100% satisfied
• 10:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: deal with it
• 10:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah and I I agree I think that's very different than like leaving loose storylines as like a cheap
• 10:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 10:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: cliffhanger like I I like that as an ending because again like like you said life isn't
• 10:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: neatly tied up in a bow like and also like it's kind of like a puzzle like it's kind of like you
• 10:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: get a little puzzle at the end and then you get to decide based on the facts that you've you've
• 10:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah yeah I absolutely yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what I like about art right I like
• 11:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: taken it and your feelings on it
• 11:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and like
• 11:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: people can argue with you about it
• 11:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: but there's no clear right answer
• 11:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so it's like you kind of get to
• 11:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mm-hmm
• 11:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I like when things aren't 100 certain and what I really love is I love listening to people talk
• 11:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: about tv and film and and talk about their interpretation of things I think it's really
• 11:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: interesting and like sometimes i'll be like no I don't get I don't I don't see that and sometimes
• 11:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'd be like, yeah, I can...
• 11:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I can kind of see where you're going.
• 11:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm not sure.
• 11:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think that's right.
• 11:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But I can see where you're coming from.
• 11:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And then there's something like, yeah, no, that is really interesting.
• 11:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And that has changed how I view it.
• 11:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And it's changed how I appreciate it, most often for the better.
• 11:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's like, I presume you've not seen Digger.
• 11:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, not yet, which I've heard really good things about, which is really interesting because the trailer did not sell.
• 11:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 11:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So, yeah, so the problem is, so first up, if you have not seen Digger and you have any interest in film,
• 11:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: at all, right?
• 11:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: If you like original film, if you like interesting film, go see it.
• 12:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Just go see it.
• 12:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Don't look up anything.
• 12:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There is like a thing about the film that they do not talk about, but they're apparently about to start talking about in the marketing.
• 12:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And it will make the film worse if you go into it knowing this the first time.
• 12:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Which I think it's fair to say that that's a flaw in something.
• 12:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But also there's something wonderful about like, oh, I can never
• 12:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: experience this the same way again, because I did I know this now going into
• 12:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the second time. But the more I think about this film, the more
• 12:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I like it and the more I hear other people's interpretations of things. I'm obviously not going to talk
• 12:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: about specifics. There's almost nothing I can talk about this film without
• 12:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 12:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: giving it away. So I am just going to talk about it in generics, which is that
• 12:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: there's like a thing like someone at the end does a big
• 12:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: monologue, as happens so often. And in that monologue,
• 12:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think I
• 12:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: thought a certain thing by the end of it
• 12:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and then there's various people that have
• 13:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: said things about how they thought about that
• 13:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: monologue by the end and how that then
• 13:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: leads to their feelings about what the
• 13:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: film is trying to tell us
• 13:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I think
• 13:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: they're all right
• 13:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I think that's wonderful that they can all be right
• 13:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mm-hmm
• 13:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and that they can all
• 13:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: they've all made me enjoy
• 13:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the film more and actually
• 13:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: thinking about that and seeing
• 13:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: people talk about it makes me want to go see it
• 13:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah like I think that's I think getting to share perspectives and then having them change your own
• 13:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: perspective is like I think that's a fundamental of like something I want in my life always so when
• 13:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 13:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you get to experience it on like that level like it's it's so fun it just it makes you feel like
• 13:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so connected to other people in like an interesting way too
• 13:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I agree. I agree.
• 13:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: um I will say I also didn't I kind of did dismiss the movie because uh Tom Cruise is in it right and
• 13:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I do not like Tom Cruise so I that was my bias you know
• 13:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I understand that, but I will say he's very good in this film, and I know the Scientology thing, I know that people don't like him because of that, blah blah blah blah blah, I get that, I totally get that.
• 14:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: okay
• 14:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah no I'm not like I don't like not watch his movies because of that I just like
• 14:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I guess I never got into like the Mission Impossibles and I'm like
• 14:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that's fine. No, absolutely. That's fine. It's not, it's not the same. Like, like this is,
• 14:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah it's not the same at all yeah yeah yeah
• 14:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I've heard people call this Oscar bait, which I just, I hate as a term. And because it just feels
• 14:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: hmm
• 14:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like people going, oh, you did a thing where you acted well, therefore we're going to mock you for
• 14:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that. Like, I don't, I don't understand this thing. It's like, if someone continues to do the same
• 14:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: thing as, as Tom Cruise has done for so long, he's been basically one character and like, sure. Okay.
• 14:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Multiple characters, they're all the same character, right?
• 14:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And people will mock him for that.
• 14:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And then he'll go and do this, which is so different.
• 14:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And actually, I think he's a much better actor now than I thought he was a couple of weeks
• 14:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - Yeah.
• 15:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: ago because of this.
• 15:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Like, I think it's very good.
• 15:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Now, I'm not going to say that this is somehow, I think part of the problem is that some people
• 15:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: will come out of this film and think, oh, it's not really a lot.
• 15:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I didn't really, I think it's kind of surface level in what it's trying to talk about.
• 15:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 15:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And I think that those people are also right.
• 15:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: again, I can't talk too much about what it
• 15:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is, but it
• 15:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Which makes me think of that, um, what was that one?
• 15:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It was, like, Leonardo DiCaprio and about climate change.
• 15:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: They came out, like, two years ago or something.
• 15:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And everybody was kind of like, it's a good film, but, like, we all knew this.
• 15:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, why are you guys making this film now?
• 15:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh don't look up yeah yeah yeah people do kind of talk about it a bit like don't look up and that's as much as i'll talk about in terms of that aspect and I think that's fair but what I will also say is I think sometimes some people need that
• 15:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Kind of.
• 15:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes.
• 15:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 15:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, I agree, which is like, I think, unfortunately, you know, we need the media to help push certain messages.
• 15:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: exactly exactly and so if you if you have thought about what this film is talking about
• 16:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: in any kind of level of detail you won't come out going wow that was really deep it was amazing
• 16:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 16:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but that doesn't mean that it can't be a great film and it doesn't mean that you it can't be
• 16:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: doing good in some sort of ways but but I also think that uh trying to formulate words that
• 16:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: don't spoil anything.
• 16:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It does...
• 16:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's a bit...
• 16:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: More in depth than Don't Look Up, right?
• 16:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Don't Look Up is,
• 16:32
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 16:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh no, people are ignoring climate change
• 16:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and we're all going to die, right?
• 16:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: That's about the level of it, right?
• 16:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And some people thought that was amazing
• 16:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because they'd not really thought about this.
• 16:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And yes, sure, that's a little bit,
• 16:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you can feel a little bit better than them, right?
• 16:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Because you're like, well, obviously this is...
• 16:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 16:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But I think it's great
• 16:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: when people actually start thinking about these things.
• 16:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Hopefully that would lead to them thinking more about it.
• 16:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But I think this is not completely different
• 16:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but it does think a little bit deeper than Don't Look Up.
• 17:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And I think because of that,
• 17:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like I've not heard someone say something about Don't Look Up
• 17:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which changes my opinion on it,
• 17:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: changes how I view certain scenes.
• 17:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Whereas I have had people talk about Digger
• 17:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that have made me think slightly differently
• 17:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: about certain scenes and going like,
• 17:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh, that's interesting.
• 17:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I hadn't thought about it that way.
• 17:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Don't Look Up is very clear,
• 17:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: very obvious exactly what it is.
• 17:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Again, you're not going to come out of this
• 17:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: with a whole new viewpoint, right?
• 17:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but I think it is interesting
• 17:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I think it does think about things a little bit deeper
• 17:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: someone like you, Kelly
• 17:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you're already thought about it on the level that Digger is
• 17:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but I think it is enough deeper than Don't Look Up
• 17:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that people, I think, could lead some people to be going
• 17:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh, I need to think more about this sort of thing
• 17:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and also it's just fun
• 17:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and I think you know I think that's the I mean yeah that's important too but I think that's kind
• 17:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: of the vibe I got from the movie overall is that it did not feel like I i obviously did not watch
• 17:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it but from what i've heard people say is it does not feel as superficial
• 18:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like it feels like it goes deeper also i'm so sorry I have to blow my nose
• 18:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: - Yeah, I mean, not a huge amount deeper,
• 18:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah yeah exactly you also have to make it accessible like that's the hard part
• 18:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but at least some level of deeper.
• 18:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: exactly exactly exactly so I think the problem is that when you do go see the film because you will
• 18:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because you should um you will come out of it going I understand why the marketing was the way
• 18:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 18:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it was and the problem is I don't think they can make the marketing better without ruining the film
• 18:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 18:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it's a really difficult problem it really really difficult problem and you cannot
• 18:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - I see, okay, I understand.
• 18:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like I can't
• 18:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: explain it without
• 18:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I wonder if, like, I wonder if, like, things like this, like, like, again, I heard multiple people say they saw it and then said it was amazing. So I wonder if, like, word of mouth like that helps push people who are, like, not so sure about it.
• 18:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah I hope so
• 18:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I hope so but we are this is second weekend now so I guess we'll see how things go with
• 19:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: second weekend but if it if it goes down on first weekend I think it's it's it's done for
• 19:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I know, because it was like a flop on first weekend, right?
• 19:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah it was not good so hopefully yes people um you know we're encouraging enough people to because
• 19:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think I think this is the problem is that um it's another case of this is an original film
• 19:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: people want original films
• 19:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but the problem is
• 19:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: often, not always
• 19:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I'm not blaming people for this
• 19:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think this is a societal problem
• 19:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because the cinema is expensive
• 19:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and you don't want to try out new things
• 19:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's hard
• 19:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to support original films
• 19:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: even though people say they want them
• 19:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you know
• 19:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, that's true. I mean, like, I definitely do try to, like, go see movies that aren't more so original to try to support that, but yeah, again, it is hard.
• 19:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 19:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 19:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I got
• 19:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like maybe five years ago
• 19:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: just coming out of COVID
• 19:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I got
• 19:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: a subscription for
• 20:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: my
• 20:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: local cinema
• 20:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and
• 20:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: honestly it was the best thing I ever did
• 20:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because
• 20:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it has allowed me to see
• 20:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: films that I would never really consider
• 20:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: seeing
• 20:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I've seen so many more films
• 20:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and yet
• 20:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: lots of them are terrible
• 20:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: right
• 20:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but now I know that
• 20:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and
• 20:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I can experience
• 20:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that first hand rather than just
• 20:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: assuming or just hearing from other people
• 20:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because the thing is I actually think that yeah sure you could
• 20:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: watch all these things when you watch them from home
• 20:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but when you're sitting at home
• 20:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: there are so many other things you could be doing
• 20:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: instead and actually sitting down
• 20:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and watching a two hour long film is a hard
• 20:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: thing to do whereas if you go
• 20:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I am going to go out once a week
• 20:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to the cinema to watch a film
• 20:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm not saying that's easy but I think
• 20:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that if you make yourself commit to that
• 20:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: right like I pay for the yearly
• 20:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: thing because they do like
• 20:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: every year there's like a
• 20:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh you can get the yearly one for £150
• 20:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which is a
• 20:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, that's awesome. That's crazy. Yeah.
• 20:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: very good discount on it
• 21:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it basically has no
• 21:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like it's got a few restrictions like you can only see
• 21:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: each film five times
• 21:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which I've never encountered a problem with
• 21:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay. Okay.
• 21:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you can only have like
• 21:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: five pre-bookings at once
• 21:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: only very often does that
• 21:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: become a problem
• 21:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and then it's like
• 21:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: if you book and you don't turn
• 21:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: up and you do that
• 21:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: three times in a two month period
• 21:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: then you're restricted to only booking
• 21:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: two at a time right like it's
• 21:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 21:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: kind of stuff like that like yeah
• 21:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: if you're going all the time you might
• 21:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: encounter some of these problems but
• 21:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: if I'm just going once or twice a week at most
• 21:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I don't encounter these problems right
• 21:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and so it's absolutely incredible value
• 21:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: for that and I've seen like
• 21:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think last year I saw something like 60 films
• 21:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: at the cinema
• 21:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which
• 21:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's just not something
• 21:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I would do
• 21:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I'm not going to watch
• 21:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: all those films at home
• 21:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: wasn't seeing them at the cinema
• 21:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you know but it's
• 21:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's not hard to go out once a week
• 21:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to the cinema
• 21:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: for me
• 21:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: in my experience
• 21:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and my
• 22:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like my
• 22:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: life experience
• 22:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it is not hard for me to go out
• 22:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to the cinema once a week
• 22:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 22:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And it's nice, because, like, it's like you time.
• 22:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: You get a little you time.
• 22:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 22:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 22:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and
• 22:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But, no, I agree with the point of...
• 22:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it forces me not to look at my phone
• 22:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: for two hours
• 22:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Well, that's the thing is, like, you know, I agree with the point of, like,
• 22:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 22:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: going to the movies takes away all distractions.
• 22:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: most of the time
• 22:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Most of the time.
• 22:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: what was it
• 22:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Unfortunately, you can't control other people at the movies.
• 22:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: what was it I was watching this week
• 22:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: uh
• 22:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh
• 22:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Verity
• 22:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I forgot that's what it was
• 22:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, okay, okay.
• 22:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: absolutely dreadful film
• 22:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 22:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: OK, I have.
• 22:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I have not heard good things about it.
• 22:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's absolutely dreadful
• 22:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like it was
• 22:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it
• 22:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I
• 22:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh
• 22:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: just so bad
• 22:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: on so many levels
• 22:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: um
• 22:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like just stupid bad
• 22:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like not even fun bad
• 22:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay, okay. Because I love like a campy, bad, you know, like a bad horror film.
• 22:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: just stupid bad
• 22:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like I
• 22:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 22:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 22:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 22:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 22:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 22:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 22:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's not
• 22:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's
• 22:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's
• 22:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's
• 22:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: uh
• 22:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: um
• 22:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's a
• 22:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: kind of
• 22:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: trashy romance
• 22:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: writer goes
• 23:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, but no, I, okay, I will definitely not, don't worry.
• 23:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I can write a horror book
• 23:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and then they turn that into a film
• 23:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it's
• 23:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 23:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 23:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's
• 23:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it just
• 23:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it doesn't
• 23:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it doesn't
• 23:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 23:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm finding it really hard to explain it
• 23:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but no
• 23:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: just no
• 23:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 23:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's not worth it
• 23:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: don't go and see that film
• 23:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: absolutely not
• 23:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it's
• 23:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it's not even one of those ones where it's like
• 23:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's so bad
• 23:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that it's fun to watch
• 23:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I presume you never saw megalopolis
• 23:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so that was the
• 23:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, I haven't seen that one.
• 23:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: That was the, um, was that Squarespace?
• 23:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no it wasn't
• 23:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Saisi?
• 23:32
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Was that?
• 23:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it was um
• 23:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: what's his name
• 23:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm so bad with names
• 23:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: uh
• 23:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Coppola
• 23:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, Coppola?
• 23:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 23:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, that's, yeah.
• 23:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Francis Ford Coppola
• 23:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it was his film
• 23:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that um
• 23:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: was
• 23:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But he, like, bankrolled, right?
• 23:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 23:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Himself?
• 23:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: he bankrolled
• 23:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and he'd been writing for
• 23:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like 40 years
• 23:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and oh boy
• 23:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you could tell
• 23:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: he'd been writing for 40 years
• 23:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and you could tell
• 23:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which scene was written
• 23:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: in which decade
• 23:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: laughs
• 23:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh my god.
• 23:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Because it's like literally a bit where there's a satellite
• 23:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and on the satellite is just the logo of the USSR.
• 24:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And you're like, where are we?
• 24:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Did you write that in the 80s?
• 24:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh.
• 24:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Like, what are you doing?
• 24:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's bizarre decisions.
• 24:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But like, also like.
• 24:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And it just, none of it made any sense.
• 24:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There were things that happened
• 24:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that were never referred to again.
• 24:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It was just the most, but it was so bad.
• 24:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh god.
• 24:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There was so much conversation around it
• 24:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that I just had to go and see it.
• 24:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I remember that.
• 24:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yes.
• 24:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I think, I think that's like an issue with like, unfortunately, artist ego, where like
• 24:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: at a certain point, you have to understand that like, you are not invincible, or like
• 24:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you need like this, like, clearly, he did not have anybody critiquing him or giving him
• 24:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: feedback or, you know, or was not listening to anybody who wanted to edit this.
• 24:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, that's, that's, again, I think it goes back to the point of perspectives.
• 24:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: You don't have any of those perspectives added in, you just end up in this weird vacuum.
• 24:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 24:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And I don't think anybody wants to live in a vacuum.
• 25:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think there's no, no.
• 25:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And I don't think people want to watch things that come out of a vacuum.
• 25:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think there's also a problem where some artistic people feel like the art is their life.
• 25:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And if they're not doing it, they are not living.
• 25:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And I think that sometimes people need to accept that you should retire.
• 25:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes. Yeah. And I think that all that point also is like, they don't want other people putting their hands on their work because they want it to be like a reflection of them completely or something like, you know what I mean? Like, which again goes back to the ego of it all like.
• 25:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah how much of how much of these classics from the you know the 70s and
• 25:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But
• 25:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Exactly.
• 25:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the 80s how much of that is the director and how much is the writer and the director and the editor
• 25:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: all working together because none of them were world famous at that point and they were all just
• 25:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the rest of everybody else. Yeah, exactly. They'll, they only get brought up if they write like four movies in a row that are like hits and then it's like, maybe they'll, they'll get a mention.
• 25:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: good at what they do but they but what they do isn't making an entire film and I think sometimes
• 25:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: sometimes directors think of themselves as the person because we put them up there right we got
• 26:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: here are the actors and here's the director and it's like who's the writer ah who cares about that
• 26:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's the director
• 26:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah yeah exactly oh man all right cool uh what were we talking about
• 26:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Well, what are you up to, Al?
• 26:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh that was the expanse that's
• 26:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that's what we were talking about um what have I been up to I have obviously been playing fields
• 26:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 26:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: of mystria i've also been playing some more beat saber with my new steam frame um I think that's
• 26:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: all games wise um obviously media wise obviously I talked about digger I absolutely everybody should
• 26:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: go see digger um and i'm just double checking oh I started the avatar seven havens yesterday
• 26:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Ah, I have not started that yet.
• 26:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because the first three episodes came out.
• 26:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Oh, come on.
• 26:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Come on.
• 26:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I know.
• 26:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's like, you have no reason to watch.
• 27:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I do, though.
• 27:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Completely unrelated to you.
• 27:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I have to watch it.
• 27:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I have to watch it.
• 27:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, it's funny because we were running the promos at work the other day,
• 27:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and I was like, ooh, this comes out soon.
• 27:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I will not say much because I don't want to spoil it,
• 27:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 27:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but I'm in love.
• 27:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think it's great.
• 27:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 27:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think it's fantastic.
• 27:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm so excited.
• 27:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 27:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I saw that then
• 27:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: announced um they've renewed it for seasons three and four as well so we're getting assuming that
• 27:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, good.
• 27:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: they don't go back on this because who knows who can actually trust uh don't want don't want to get
• 27:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I was about to say...
• 27:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you into trouble but who knows who we can trust we can talk about that off air uh but assuming assuming
• 27:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It's okay.
• 27:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: There's some choice.
• 27:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I have a nickname for the man in charge.
• 27:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 27:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, hopefully it doesn't get the Korra treatment, you know,
• 27:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that they don't go back on it yeah yeah
• 27:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and get its seasons jinked around all around.
• 27:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah yeah so hopefully hopefully assuming they don't go back on them we can get a nice good
• 28:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: four season arc they've got their plan and we can get through it I did you didn't watch it I i managed
• 28:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay. Did you watch the movie?
• 28:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because I didn't, I did not watch the movie, even though it got leaked.
• 28:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you'll be proud of me I managed not to watch the leak I was strong I refused I was like no I am not
• 28:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh.
• 28:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: going to do this because here's the reason you couldn't log on letterboxd yet
• 28:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and of course I need to log on letterboxd no no I waited I waited I had uh I think like just over
• 28:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Of course.
• 28:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: a year ago I they did uh um like an annual offer for paramount plus here and so I was like yeah okay
• 28:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mmm.
• 28:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: i'll go for i'm sure there's always star trek stuff is there always star trek stuff there was always
• 28:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: star trek stuff um um so I was like yeah i'm sure i'll get enough out of it in the year and it's just
• 28:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: lasting till like the weekdays
• 28:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: after uh the finale of avatar seven havens so I was like well i've already paid for it i'm gonna wait
• 29:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: until it's actually on paramount plus and I can watch the full res version the final version not
• 29:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 29:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: this leaked version so I was strong I managed it I enjoyed it it was it was good it was not like
• 29:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: groundbreaking or amazing but it's fun to come back to these characters I mean to be fair I only
• 29:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 29:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: started watching avatar maybe like four years ago or something like that um so it's not like a
• 29:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 29:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: childhood thing for me but it's it's it was fun I enjoyed it
• 29:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I assumed it was, um, I just, you know, there was so much chit-chat around, you know, the Korra seasons because people did not like them and then also wanted more Avatar Aang.
• 29:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah yeah I don't know if it satisfies them though
• 29:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And I think this kind of feeds those people.
• 29:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I mean, I don't think there's any way to ever satisfy them without creating just a whole other season or series of them as adults.
• 29:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no you're right you're right yeah I even then even then I don't know because I think that like
• 30:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 30:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the original was such a unique thing and I think the problem is I think
• 30:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 30:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And that's the thing, it's hard to, it's hard to follow that.
• 30:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: part of the problem is that people don't want adult ang either they want kitty ang
• 30:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 30:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, they want that, they want baby Aang, yeah.
• 30:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: They want more of that.
• 30:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And if you make more of that, eventually you're just going to
• 30:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think that happens straight away like I think I think the thing about avatar the last airbender
• 30:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is that i'm trying to make sure that I do the right name because of course the film is called
• 30:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: avatar ang the last airbender I think goodness me get good naming um I think that it not to say
• 30:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes. Yeah.
• 30:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's perfect but it is unique in its vision and its completion of that vision
• 30:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 30:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: within what they had which is why i'm excited about avatar seven havens having its four seasons
• 30:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because like obviously that's what they want to go obviously that's what they wanted for Korra
• 31:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: four seasons four books it's the it's the avatar way to do things right so if you have the vision
• 31:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah
• 31:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: for that I want them to be able to do that yeah yeah yeah but I also think that part of the problem
• 31:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, exactly and if the studio is signing off on
• 31:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is that a lot of people who love it watched it when they were kids and actually what they're not
• 31:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes.
• 31:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: looking for more...
• 31:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: They're looking for being a kid again.
• 31:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, no, it's nostalgia chasing, which is, no.
• 31:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You're not...
• 31:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You can't get that back.
• 31:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm really sorry.
• 31:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I know it's sad.
• 31:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I cry about it daily.
• 31:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It's, it is.
• 31:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But you can't get back to who you were.
• 31:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You have to...
• 31:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You have to love who you've become
• 31:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and how you got there.
• 31:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And yes, love that past version of yourself
• 31:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and love what they experienced.
• 31:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And it's fine to be sad
• 31:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that you don't have that anymore.
• 31:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But don't keep...
• 31:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: no absolutely and I think i'm i'm a i'm a quora defender I love quora so I think that that feeling
• 31:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Spend your life wishing for it
• 31:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so that you don't live in the now.
• 31:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I agree.
• 32:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: is kind of what holds back some people from enjoying quora because quora forces you to
• 32:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: deal with a more adult version you know what I mean and and people don't want to go those
• 32:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: those issues and like those more adult
• 32:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 32:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: problems. Oh, no.
• 32:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So I think the thing about Korra is that now we could talk about Korra being a symbol of misogyny and that she gets much more flack than Aang for what she did because she's a woman.
• 32:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yep.
• 32:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Right.
• 32:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Like that is undoubtedly part of it.
• 32:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Now, at this point in time, we are going to ignore the premise of...
• 32:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: ...of Avatar 7 Havens in that what they say in the marketing is that there was a cataclysm caused by Korra.
• 32:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Now, I'm saying we're ignoring that because that is what they're saying and that is what people are saying in the show.
• 33:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But I am a strong believer that that is going to turn out not to be true.
• 33:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I also had that feeling, and I think that might be a misdirection or a misinterpretation by, like, people, like, you know what I mean? Like, they fell victim to propaganda, essentially.
• 33:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We shall see.
• 33:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think so. I think so.
• 33:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Absolutely. 100%.
• 33:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So I think we need to ignore that for just now.
• 33:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: If it turns out that it is true, I will change my mind and say that, yes, sure, Korra was a worse avatar than Aang.
• 33:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I will accept it at that point.
• 33:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: laughs
• 33:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But if we ignore that, which is not being proven that this is actually what has happened, I think that Korra did nothing worse than Aang.
• 33:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Now, yes, her breaking the connection with the previous avatars is disastrous.
• 33:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It is horrible.
• 33:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
• 33:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It is distraught.
• 33:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It destroys her, right?
• 33:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Like, you see it on and how, like, what I find, what I love about that show, right?
• 33:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Let's not talk about Cora.
• 33:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Let's talk about the show.
• 33:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Because I want to remind people that you don't watch shows just to like people.
• 34:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You watch shows to see stories and to see people and to live experiences.
• 34:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And what I think I love about that show is that it shows her doing that.
• 34:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: She breaks it.
• 34:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And that's it.
• 34:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's gone.
• 34:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There is no going back.
• 34:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 34:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There is no fixing that.
• 34:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And sometimes that is what happens.
• 34:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 34:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Sometimes we make mistakes and we break things that literally can never be fixed.
• 34:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And that's horrible.
• 34:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And it breaks her.
• 34:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah yeah yeah and and I agree like I think that that's what I mean by like these are more adult
• 34:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You can see it in her face the rest of the show that she is.
• 34:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: She hates herself for it.
• 34:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: issues like your actions and your consequences and and how you as a person survive them I think
• 34:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: is is really like the underlying themes throughout cora honestly and it is harder to contend with as
• 34:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because you it's not black and white like it's very gray it's
• 35:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: absolutely because that's the thing because because the original was hey here's this young
• 35:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: boy who's the savior of the world watch as he goes and saves the world you know and yeah sure there's
• 35:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mm-hmm yeah yeah and like
• 35:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mm-hmm
• 35:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: there's little bits in here and there right they all of them have to contend contend with their
• 35:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yes yes
• 35:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: darker sides um absolutely but it's still very kid-friendly stuff maybe except the bloodbending
• 35:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yes and yeah yeah yeah but like it's also not as tumultuous in like a sense of mental morality
• 35:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like there's obviously
• 35:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like you said there's certain points but none of those
• 35:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: points are the same as
• 35:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because again it's for a younger audience
• 35:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so when you get an older audience you want things to
• 35:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: match the audience
• 35:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and I think you know unfortunately what
• 35:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: they tried to do that with Cora and people
• 35:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: were so focused on wanting the younger
• 35:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: show
• 35:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: for when they were a younger person
• 35:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: they didn't want to deal with the idea
• 35:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: of growing up and
• 35:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: meanwhile when I watched it you know I was
• 36:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I was pretty young
• 36:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I was like these are all very
• 36:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: deep themes that like
• 36:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: sound within me
• 36:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah for sure I also think that you experience this there's still stuff I think
• 36:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: even if obviously we're not sharing the same experience
• 36:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: this is what the original show does really well is it does that I want to say like the thing that
• 36:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: pixar films do well a lot which is where yes they are clearly designed for kids but there's still
• 36:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: stuff for adults in them as well and you you you appreciate them more as an adult um that you know
• 36:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 36:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's not just mindless nonsense for kids which i'm not saying is bad I like mindless nonsense
• 36:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 36:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Of course.
• 36:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but I also like things when they have more to it as well and actually it's really interesting coming
• 36:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to avatar as an like not just an adult but like a full adult right like I was I was over 30 when i
• 36:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: started watching it um I experienced it completely differently to you for example and probably to
• 36:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, that is very true, honestly. Because I watched Avatar when I was, like, in my mid-teens, and then I watched Korra when I was in my early 20s. And so now this would be, you know, my mid-30s, the next iteration.
• 36:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: most people that ever watched it
• 37:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Mm-hmm.
• 37:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 37:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Mm-hmm.
• 37:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 37:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So I, you know, personally, I hope that it continues to grow. I mean, like, that's even, like, that's my favorite kind of music is when musicians that I've listened to for years grow with their artists, grow with their audience, you know, like.
• 37:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, absolutely.
• 37:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I feel like maybe after Seven Havens is out, season one,
• 37:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: maybe we need to have a bonus episode to talk about how we feel about it.
• 37:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm, yes, that would be fun. Yes. Yes, I will. Maybe I'll watch it on my trip as like a before bed kind of thing.
• 37:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Let's see how things go.
• 37:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So that means you have to watch it.
• 37:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Nice.
• 37:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm also, also just as a side note,
• 37:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: obviously we've only got three episodes so far.
• 37:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm enjoying the three episodes a week.
• 37:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think it works because they're short episodes.
• 37:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I personally love when a new show comes out like that.
• 38:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Of course I like binging, but I think that we as people can do things better whenever.
• 38:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah I think I think it feels like the a nice balance of I think so three three 20 minute
• 38:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And three is a good amount.
• 38:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: episodes feels like a good balance of things it's like I got a decent amount on the first day I felt
• 38:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like I was getting a good idea of what the story was but I also i'm not miles ahead of it like i'm
• 38:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: not finished right and if you were if you were to start watching in a week you know you could
• 38:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, and you get to sit with it.
• 38:32
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 38:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: easily catch up before the next episodes come out
• 38:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, but I like that, like, you get 60 minutes of content that you get to sit with then, you know, and figure out your feelings on before the next set.
• 38:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah I don't think I think with these 20 especially with this show with avatar just
• 38:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: in general I feel like one 20 minute episode a week would not be enough i'd be i'd be like
• 38:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, no, no, no, no.
• 38:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: clawing my eyes out looking for more you know
• 38:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 38:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: all right that's what we've been up to good thing there was no news because we've got 45 minutes so
• 38:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, I agree.
• 38:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think that is a very good amount of episode to get.
• 39:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yippee!
• 39:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yippee!
• 39:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: All right, let's talk about Fields of Mystria.
• 39:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: 1.0.
• 39:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So, let's start off by a little temperature check where we are with things and how we feel overall.
• 39:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Because, obviously, just a reminder, two years ago, in fact, when was the episode we did?
• 39:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think it was like around this time, honestly.
• 39:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think so, but I want to get an accurate, I'm just giving a little search, the 4th of December.
• 39:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So, a couple months later.
• 39:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay, so...
• 39:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So, not quite two years since our last episode on this game.
• 39:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Very close, though.
• 39:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We had both played through basically all of the content in the Early Access.
• 39:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 39:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think you were sitting at about 100 hours and I was sitting at about 50 hours.
• 39:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, because I had decided to, I was like, didn't have another game to play, I think. So I was just like, let me see how many different breeds of animals I can create. And I just spent a bunch of time breeding animals to see what colors I could get.
• 40:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: fair enough uh whereas I was just my my problem with these games is I i actually hate the start
• 40:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: of farming games um I hate spring one first spring so I like speed run them so it's like
• 40:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I see.
• 40:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I was further on further on in the year I think uh than you were uh but but I had less time because
• 40:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I just like speed run the first spring
• 40:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I'm, like, out there, you know, out in the fields until, uh, until 1.50 every morning, every night, so...
• 40:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah yeah okay so um where are you now then having you know you've had a couple of weeks of 1.0
• 40:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Um, I've, so I've surpassed, I think, all of the walls that I hit, we hit from early access, but I have not completed everything. So it is nice because I get to see beyond the veil, I guess, and what we're waiting for.
• 41:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah so I guess the good, the kind of easy ways of figuring out where we are roughly in the game is we've got the town rank and we've got the, like where are you in the mines because both of them kind of almost go hand in hand.
• 41:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah yeah so I am I think maybe like 61 or 62 or something like that in town rank and then I just
• 41:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: found the the last stupid thing to get to the the next cave the next mine level um so I just am
• 41:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I just finished
• 41:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I'm about to go past level 60
• 41:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the mines, sorry
• 41:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so I just opened
• 41:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Deep Woods
• 41:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I don't know if that's a spoiler and you want to cut that out
• 41:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, okay, cool.
• 41:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah, and it's on the map
• 41:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I mean, I don't think it is because you go there and it tells you what it is
• 41:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and you just can't get in there, I don't think.
• 41:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the name is on the map
• 41:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Let's not spoil what it is in there, but I think, yeah.
• 41:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 41:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah, yeah, yeah
• 42:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Okay, cool.
• 42:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Right, okay.
• 42:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mm-hmm
• 42:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So you started fresh and went up to this point.
• 42:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I actually resumed my save because I knew I wouldn't be able to get as far as I wanted to
• 42:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: okay
• 42:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: by starting afresh because, like always, I procrastinated.
• 42:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: That makes sense because I saw your achievements and I was like, wow, how did he get so much further than me?
• 42:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So I am at level 85 town rank and I am level 90 in the mines.
• 42:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 42:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There's actually, I don't want to spoil what it is,
• 42:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but it's actually really interesting when you get to level 90
• 42:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I want to hear your thoughts when you get there
• 42:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because it's very different from the rest of it.
• 42:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Okay, so what are your feelings?
• 42:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Because I think we're obviously not really going to talk story and spoilers
• 42:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mhm.
• 42:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because I think...
• 42:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think we can maybe talk about overall how we're feeling but not get into specifics and I think that the story is fine and I'm not blown away by anything but it's nice for it to be there, I guess.
• 43:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, it's like, I feel like with these games, I'm not looking for some sort of groundbreaking story.
• 43:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like if it happens, it's nice.
• 43:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: No.
• 43:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I like the characters overall, you know, I do think we talked about some of the story the last time, too.
• 43:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I can't remember what we talked about with that because I was focusing on I was focusing on mechanics.
• 43:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I know, I feel like we had to have talked about it, but I think we did talk a lot about mechanics.
• 43:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think in terms of characters, I think what I said was I don't really care about any of the characters and so I've not really looked into any of the romance.
• 43:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So, I know the last time I dated Marsh, or he was like my, March, and he was my romantic interest.
• 43:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Mm-hmm.
• 43:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I have put zero effort into any romantic interest this game, which I'm just like, I got things to do, you know?
• 43:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I think that's the thing is I find it not necessarily an interesting mechanic in and of itself. What I find interesting is the learning more about the people, but I don't care about any of these.
• 43:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes. I agree. That's usually what drives me is like wanting to find out more information.
• 44:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I will say if we're going to talk about, I guess, relationships in that sense, though, that I do really enjoy the mechanic of Friday night at the inn and Saturday market.
• 44:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Mm-hmm.
• 44:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because you can so easily get every single person in town, you know, and then.
• 44:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 44:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And that's like, at least you get a little progression there. So I think that's a very minimal effort way to continue to make sure that your relationships progress, albeit slowly.
• 44:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 44:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah that's fair that's fair I do feel like the the saturday market it kind of just feels like
• 44:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: did you ever play uh grand bazaar story seasons grand bazaar or the harvest seasons harvest moon
• 44:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No.
• 44:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no um it kind of feels like it's in I can't I don't think this was ever in the early access when
• 44:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: we when we played it but it just kind of feels like in a reaction to that it's like oh grand
• 44:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: bazaar was fun let's do that but we're not actually going to do that and instead it's just
• 45:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: going to be other people because the thing about grand bazaar was
• 45:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you had this weekly cycle of the only time you sell stuff is at the bazaar every saturday
• 45:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, so it's like a big deal.
• 45:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and that's how you make your money it was a big deal and I personally thought especially in the i
• 45:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: didn't play the original but the remake um was it two years ago maybe I thought it did a really good
• 45:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: job of making me actually care about selling stuff um it was a fun balance of kind of stress
• 45:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: okay yeah because you have to think yeah like because you're like oh I gotta sell stuff I gotta
• 45:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: have money for the week you know like that's I mean there's moments where like this I think this
• 45:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: is like a common farming game issue where like you know obviously if you mess up and you don't
• 45:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: sell something the night before and then you have no money you're virtually screwed but like not
• 45:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah it's just another day yeah
• 45:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: necessarily because you couldn't get money other ways like if you really desperately need to there
• 45:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but but also it's just it's just another day right whereas whereas the thing about the bizarre was
• 45:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: are
• 45:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: exactly
• 45:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you can survive
• 45:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the day
• 45:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 45:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it was a whole it was a week you had to wait a whole week and and I found that an interesting
• 45:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that's what
• 45:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I'm saying
• 45:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 46:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that's
• 46:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I see
• 46:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: thing and it almost feels like they went that was interesting let's do that but we don't do that we
• 46:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's just we're gonna have the market and it's like okay but the market then is just extra shops
• 46:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 46:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it is
• 46:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: every week
• 46:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: okay
• 46:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I will say
• 46:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I feel like
• 46:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the purpose
• 46:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: of the market
• 46:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: for me
• 46:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: is like
• 46:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the relationship
• 46:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: boost
• 46:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: of like
• 46:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: talking to
• 46:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: everybody
• 46:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: no problem
• 46:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and like
• 46:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: making it easy
• 46:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I get that.
• 46:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to everybody
• 46:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: their things
• 46:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: from their quests
• 46:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and then
• 46:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 46:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: No, I get that.
• 46:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I get that in theory.
• 46:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: buy coffee
• 46:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that's like
• 46:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: my three things
• 46:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that I use
• 46:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the market for
• 46:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Oh, you know, I've got the Especial Machine yet.
• 46:32
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: no I don't
• 46:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: have it yet
• 46:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you know
• 46:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I've got them.
• 46:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I just got the Especial Machine.
• 46:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's great.
• 46:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I didn't want
• 46:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Love it.
• 46:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to look it up
• 46:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because I was like
• 46:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: oh when am I
• 46:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: gonna where is
• 46:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like the coffee
• 46:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I can't be
• 46:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: buying coffee
• 46:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: The best bit is you can buy a Especial Machine
• 46:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and you can buy the crafting recipe for the Especial Machine.
• 46:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And I think if you crafted
• 46:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh.
• 46:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: multiple, each of them will give you a coffee
• 46:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: every day for free.
• 46:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, okay.
• 46:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I do like, I don't know, again, if you want to talk about this,
• 47:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: but I do like the update that the market gets at the end.
• 47:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Or, like, I guess that I just got for it.
• 47:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh did you just did you unlock the last one I have not i'm so close how would no no you can't
• 47:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 47:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Wait, wait, not the last one.
• 47:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: have unlocked the last one yeah because I was I was just going to say because i'm literally i'm
• 47:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I guess the one that gets you two more vendors.
• 47:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 47:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: i'm just about to finish the next one and and it and it requires stuff that you can only get
• 47:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I just did that one.
• 47:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay, that makes sense.
• 47:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: from level 80 so I was like how have you managed to do that yeah
• 47:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I did buy gold bars because I was like, I just want the freaking market open.
• 47:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, fair enough. I will be honest. I've done that before as well.
• 47:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, I just want to, I want to see.
• 47:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because, like, I was so, because, like, I was, I had done the level 40 to 60 in the mine so many times looking for one item to progress it.
• 47:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah yeah the
• 47:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And I was getting so fed up and I was like, I just want the market to be open and it's Friday night.
• 47:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I needed to open.
• 47:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And luckily, Balor's cart was selling gold bars and I said, okay, it's time to go.
• 47:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah the the other thing as well is actually this is um this is why I quite like if I can go back to
• 48:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: a game with the existing save and there's new stuff because I really love the satisfaction of
• 48:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I came into this what a week and a half ago I came in to my save which I hadn't done anything
• 48:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: since the very first version of early access and I had 300 000 monies and so I was like I can buy
• 48:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: everything it was so satisfying and
• 48:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, that is so nice.
• 48:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I think for me, I don't know, I like the challenge of struggling, if that makes sense.
• 48:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Sure, but I'd already done that.
• 48:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'd already done the struggle.
• 48:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Now I get the joy after the struggle.
• 48:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I have the money now.
• 48:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, I don't know.
• 48:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I had this issue.
• 48:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think this all started with, like, The Sims for me when I was, like, a kid, where I would, like, use the cheat code to get a bunch of money to build a house, and then I'd be like, well, now I'm bored.
• 48:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh no see I cared I only cared about the house I didn't care about actually running the people
• 48:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I was like, I like earning the stuff, I guess.
• 48:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no
• 48:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: we are no we are not the same uh okay so I forgot where we were one layer back
• 49:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think we just started talking, and then completely, yeah.
• 49:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We just kept going. Okay, let's
• 49:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: go through. I've got a list
• 49:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: of things that we complained about that have
• 49:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: changed, that have been improved since
• 49:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: early access. And I want to talk about
• 49:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: whether these things have actually improved it
• 49:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: or whether they're just kind of
• 49:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: they're a thing that exists.
• 49:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So there were a few things that I'd complained about
• 49:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the farming. The first was that there's basically
• 49:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no automation.
• 49:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, no sprinklers.
• 49:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And it was very frustrating.
• 49:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Now, the good thing is they do have now
• 49:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: watering statues.
• 49:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah, I have not opened those yet.
• 49:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I did get the farm statue.
• 49:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You can't...
• 49:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I would...
• 49:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I got the barn statue.
• 49:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I think you can get
• 49:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the watering statues now if you figure out
• 49:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: where they are. You're at the point
• 49:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: now where you can get it.
• 49:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: If you want me to spoil where
• 49:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it is later, I will do that, but I will not do it
• 49:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: no I'll maybe I'll look and see and then if I can't find it yeah yeah yeah yeah I will
• 49:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: without...
• 50:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, let me know. Let me know.
• 50:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Let me know.
• 50:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: okay
• 50:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So they work basically like sprinklers.
• 50:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There's two versions.
• 50:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There's a 5x5
• 50:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and a...
• 50:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: 8x8? No, 7x7.
• 50:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There's two sizes.
• 50:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And you can unlock them both
• 50:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: pretty quickly after one another.
• 50:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But they are powered by
• 50:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the...
• 50:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: these like...
• 50:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the gems that you make
• 50:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: with the magic,
• 50:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: The essence? Yeah.
• 50:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the essence.
• 50:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And so it's like
• 50:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: a certain amount will last one day
• 50:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and then a certain amount will last five
• 50:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and a certain amount...
• 50:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so you can like make...
• 50:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Have you unlocked
• 50:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the forge,
• 50:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the stone forge
• 50:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: at the mine?
• 50:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, in the mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 50:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 50:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Which is pretty nice. I like that.
• 50:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: them there.
• 50:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's really nice.
• 50:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I love it.
• 50:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's great.
• 50:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You...
• 50:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Especially as I have so much money
• 50:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I can just buy stone
• 50:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and turn it into all those things.
• 50:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, yeah, that's sick. That's awesome. I didn't even think about that because I'm at the point where I was just struggling because I think I unlocked a bunch of things at once. And I was like, oh, my God, my whole life is just cutting down trees and mining. That's all I do.
• 50:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: They also...
• 50:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: The carpenter...
• 50:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yes.
• 51:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I...
• 51:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I...
• 51:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 51:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 51:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I know.
• 51:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Fair enough.
• 51:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the uh the carpenter also now I don't know whether this was the case before because I can't remember
• 51:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but they now sell bundles of a hundred rock stone so you can just buy that I don't think they did
• 51:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I don't think they used to do that. Yeah, I don't think they did.
• 51:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: either but it's great so it doesn't mean it means you don't have to just hold the button you can just
• 51:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like press five times and get 500 stone it's great I love it um so that yeah so the forge is the stone
• 51:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: forge is where you make your your little essence gem things um and so you then throw it on the
• 51:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: statue and then it will do its job just like a sprinkler it does what it does I it's fine I think
• 51:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm, okay.
• 51:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's fine. I'm
• 51:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: mixed on the essence
• 51:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: requirement because I'm like
• 51:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I've gone through all this effort to get this
• 51:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and now I have to like keep it topped up
• 51:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: feels a little bit
• 51:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: frustrating but
• 51:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's fine. It is what it is. But what
• 51:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm not a fan of is how far
• 52:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: through the game you have to go to get.
• 52:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: That's so like I'm kind of upset right now that I'm thinking about this because I planned out my farm you know what I mean like I have my trees all lined up in such a nice little way and like roads lined out so that things will stop growing in places and it's like I'm literally you said that I was like oh my god I'm.
• 52:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yep.
• 52:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but also you have to the crafting for them requires rare forageables from the mine
• 52:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so I have not been able to craft a second one yet
• 52:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: oh no
• 52:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so it almost feels like it's like here you go because you asked for it
• 52:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but we don't actually want you to use it and that's really frustrating
• 52:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah and like that is because like the watering can is great that it can do like so much more
• 52:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: but it doesn't it still uses the amount of energy like the same amount of energy so much energy
• 52:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: much energy so much energy I don't understand why it continues to use so much energy because I have
• 53:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: uh six plots of six by six um and um that uses my entire energy for a day and I have and I have like
• 53:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh my god.
• 53:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I have...
• 53:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: four upgrades to my energy and it still uses all of that energy every single day that it's not raining
• 53:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 53:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I have three plots of six by three, four plots of six by three, five plots of six by three, and then a three by three.
• 53:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And that takes up, like, at least almost half of my energy every day.
• 53:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's it's maddening to me I do not understand why the energy doesn't drop
• 53:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I don't know.
• 53:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: All I know is, like, right now I'm at the end of second year spring, and I'm like, oh, my God.
• 53:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I don't have to water too
• 53:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Rows of plants
• 53:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I can go do other things
• 53:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah now I will say it does you do it doesn't make you do it really quickly now right like i
• 53:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: My day is better
• 53:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes
• 53:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah
• 53:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: get I get my six by six by six I get them done in seconds which is good exactly exactly and it's like
• 53:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh it's done so fast
• 54:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Which is nice
• 54:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I have to eat food afterwards
• 54:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah
• 54:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's so frustrating because it's so much um and I feel like i'm kind of I feel like i'm in the end
• 54:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: near the end game now and i'm still running my entire energy out from just watering and
• 54:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: 200 crops it's not an insane number of crops
• 54:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 54:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, I feel like, so that, that is one thing, like, I am doing so much less farming in this
• 54:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: game just because of that.
• 54:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because I'm like, I gotta limit how much time and energy I'm spending on farming every morning,
• 54:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: especially because I have, uh, the animals to go take care of after.
• 54:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: okay let's jump to them then because there's a few things that they added for them which I think
• 54:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: are good but I think have the same problem so first up we what was the one you had you had the
• 54:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, I will say I'm going to complain about one thing.
• 54:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: this statue this the animal statue was that yes yes you've got the you've got the auto petter
• 54:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, the barn statue, it pets your animals for you.
• 54:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I like that.
• 55:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I like it my big complaint about it it only works in the largest of the barns
• 55:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 55:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, which threw me off really badly because I had a medium barn when I first got it.
• 55:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Mm-hmm. Yep, same.
• 55:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And I was like, oh, sick, I'm going to go put this in there.
• 55:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You can't put it anywhere.
• 55:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And then it couldn't put it anywhere.
• 55:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And luckily, I had just sold a bunch of animals that I had bred.
• 55:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So I had a ton of money for myself.
• 55:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 55:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think I had like $20,000 in the game and I was like, oh, I'm rich.
• 55:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 55:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, oh, I can go buy a big barn at least and put it in here.
• 55:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I was like, oh, God, you can't put this in my little things.
• 55:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Like, I'm going to have to buy all the bigger ones.
• 55:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So that is frustrating.
• 55:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes.
• 55:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I wish that they had automated the bring animals in and out function.
• 55:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so right okay are you aware of the big bell so there is a big bell you can you can unlock the
• 55:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No.
• 55:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Where?
• 55:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I cannot remember where I got it uh big it's a craftable but it it it
• 55:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, it's a craftable.
• 55:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 55:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because I actually looked this one up and it was like, there's no way to do it without a mod.
• 56:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no there is now there is now yes you got the big bell the big bell it basically it's the same as
• 56:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So I guess they didn't unlock that.
• 56:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: all the little bells but it just does for all of them at once so I will they could they
• 56:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: can they go out like that also okay because first of all I'm not running around to I have
• 56:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: can go out or come in with the big bell yeah yeah so you can even you can you can put it you can you
• 56:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: four barns right now I don't want to be running around to do that and then I'll forget and then
• 56:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: they're outside ah perfect yeah
• 56:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: can put it right next to your house so you can get into the habit you can put it right next to your
• 56:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: house you have a habit of I leave my house I call them out and then the last thing I do before I go
• 56:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to sleep is I call them back in and then and then you're done yeah
• 56:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that's what I want that's all I want that's oh Al thank you thank you so much okay i'm gonna look
• 56:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: for that that's a game changer because that like i'm like what i'm I don't put them outside because
• 56:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I forget about them and then I come back and i'm the person they're grumpy i'm the person who i'm
• 56:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, absolutely.
• 56:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And then they're grumpy.
• 56:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: sorry i'm spending as much time as possible away from my house so it's like you know one o'clock
• 57:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Mm-hmm. So here's my one annoyance with this, is that I sometimes just don't make it home in time
• 57:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: in the morning and i'm running to ship stuff last minute and then all of a sudden I see my grumpy
• 57:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: little freaking cows sitting
• 57:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: in the field and I'm like, oh my God.
• 57:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and then there's nothing you can do still. So you still have to get home. And it's like you're
• 57:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, that's also, yeah, no, absolutely.
• 57:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: rushing home. I'm like almost at the house and it's 1.50 and it's like now I have to take time
• 57:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to ring the bell
• 57:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: before I go to bed
• 57:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is very frustrating
• 57:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it is better
• 57:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's definitely better
• 57:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I can see that still saving me from just flat out not doing it or passing out beforehand a lot, yeah.
• 57:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, because that's the thing
• 57:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I just wasn't putting my animals out before
• 57:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, I don't, every single time that I tell myself I'm going to do it and I'm not going to forget, I forget.
• 57:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So I just stop putting them outside.
• 57:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I don't because they're not real the the other thing that they added automation with animals
• 57:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And I feel bad for them.
• 58:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: was the auto feeder so that allows you to you you put it in the barn and it sits next to the
• 58:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Hmm.
• 58:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: chest in the barn
• 58:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So I haven't gotten that yet, but does that allow you to put non-hay items in it?
• 58:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's any
• 58:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay.
• 58:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because you can't put non-hay items in the trows, whatever they're called.
• 58:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah so I don't know how it works but I have I did see online that you can put any
• 58:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: edible food in it now i
• 58:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay. I just don't have enough hay for this, you know, and I can't put berries in the freaking things.
• 58:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: um yeah I mean i'm at that point where i'm just buying all the hay
• 58:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I i just go and buy I buy 500 of each and I throw it in I throw it in there and then you know I can't
• 58:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I figured. I knew you were going to say that.
• 58:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I figured.
• 58:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: even figure I can't even remember how many how many have I got just now uh I think 12 of
• 58:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: each so that's slightly over that's that's nearly two nearly two seasons so I just I just don't
• 58:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay, so you're, yeah, you're, uh, yeah, that's fair, yeah, but yeah, no, I, um, I think I have, like, 20 animals, and, like, I forgot, that is one thing I forgot coming back into the game, is that you can feed them other things at first, and I had to, like, look up, I was like, how are people getting hay, besides buying it, obviously, and then I was reminded that you can feed them anything.
• 58:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: think about it I noticed that there's no in fact it's more than two seasons because of course now
• 59:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: i'm sending them outside um
• 59:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah I just buy it that yeah yeah so I don't know how it prioritizes what it's putting out and
• 59:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and stuff but it yeah it does it theoretically I don't know how it works I haven't tried it
• 59:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: with other food but the internet had when I when I googled it earlier the internet said you can put
• 59:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: any edible food in it and when I went to put my hay in it it did have all of my food as
• 59:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: selectable to go into it so I don't know how it works but it is it does let you put them in
• 59:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay, cool.
• 59:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: That is good to know also.
• 59:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so I think overall the animal stuff is definitely better the automation for the animal stuff is
• 59:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 59:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: definitely better but I think this is going to be my complaint about a lot of this is I it's not a
• 59:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: complaint from my current playthrough because I came in at this point but if I was starting afresh
• 1:00:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I would be very frustrated with how long it takes to get to all of these things
• 1:00:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, I think I think I didn't start in this playthrough.
• 1:00:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I didn't start ranching until much later in the game because I was just like, I don't have the time or the money for this right now.
• 1:00:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: You know, like I'm like, I'm running through the mines.
• 1:00:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I'm fishing.
• 1:00:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I'm farming.
• 1:00:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Which is funny because in Stardew, it's the early game moneymaker.
• 1:00:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes, which is really funny.
• 1:00:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:00:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Like, as soon as you can afford chickens, you buy the chickens.
• 1:00:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: In fact, I think the meta for Stardew is you go with the map that gives you free
• 1:00:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: chickens at the beginning.
• 1:00:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah. Yeah, no, that is interesting. And I also, like, I do like the breeding. I think that's fun
• 1:00:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to get, like, different colors. So I am enjoying that because I'm slowly working my way again
• 1:00:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: through the tiers. I think I have, like, a purple and a, no, not purple, blue and a pink cow right
• 1:00:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: now. I like them. Oh, see, I use it to sell them. So I just, like, rotate them. I keep,
• 1:00:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: nice I haven't done a lot of the breeding uh mainly because i'm like I don't want more animals
• 1:01:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to have to look after yet okay fair enough
• 1:01:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like, one as my, like, oldest so that I'll get, like, a gold stuff from them soon. And
• 1:01:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yes. Interesting.
• 1:01:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: then I just rotate out all the other ones and sell them when they get to be too much.
• 1:01:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Fair enough. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I've just never been huge into the animals because I
• 1:01:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: always feel like even with the automation stuff, they still feel like a lot of
• 1:01:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It is. I was extremely excited to find out about that petting statue. So I am also extremely excited to find out about this auto feeder. Because again, it is just, and also the bell, because I felt like the lack of automation going on throughout that whole ranching process was really holding me back.
• 1:01:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so to finish up the animal stuff that's changed the other big complaint we had was the mill
• 1:01:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: for doing the mill it took so much time to make everything right like you would have to go and
• 1:01:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - Mm, yes.
• 1:02:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: say say you have like 10 chick 10 eggs 10 chickens 10 eggs and that would take you 10 minutes per
• 1:02:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: egg to make mayonnaise and so that is what is that like over an hour and a half of in-game time
• 1:02:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to make 10 mayonnaise.
• 1:02:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's absolute madness.
• 1:02:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: A mini mill that you can put on your farm
• 1:02:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it costs zero time for everything.
• 1:02:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mm-hmm yeah and I do think also i'm not sure if we had made it to this at that point
• 1:02:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: but the um skills you can unlock at the statue
• 1:02:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We didn't we did it's not that we didn't make it to that is that they didn't exist yet because those those levels you couldn't get up to the levels of all.
• 1:02:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that's okay that's what I meant by like we didn't make it to it like I wasn't sure if
• 1:02:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: they were unlocked or not so they probably didn't exist it's actually yeah like you thought the
• 1:02:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah they just they just I think you could only get the level 30 stuff you couldn't get the 45 or
• 1:02:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: better yeah but like I was like dedicating a whole day
• 1:02:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the 60. yeah
• 1:02:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to making food products and then I would just be like well i'm not going to do this again
• 1:02:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah I yeah I just wasn't doing it I just didn't care I was actually I because because the animals
• 1:02:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: i'll survive without them yeah yeah
• 1:03:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:03:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: were so difficult to take care of and then you couldn't do anything with them without wasting
• 1:03:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:03:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: your entire day I just was I was just not doing anything with my animals at all I was just letting
• 1:03:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah no it's I have a lot of animal products because of that
• 1:03:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the waste away.
• 1:03:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:03:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so I think
• 1:03:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the combination of those
• 1:03:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: two things is a big
• 1:03:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: help but also again like it does take
• 1:03:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: time to get to them so at first early on in the
• 1:03:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: game like you're definitely struggling
• 1:03:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to make that
• 1:03:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to find the time to fit them in
• 1:03:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, I think that's the thing is this, if I can generalize about this game now, they have done massive improvements in mid to late game. And it doesn't feel like they've made any improvements in early game. Is that fair?
• 1:03:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yes
• 1:03:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I agree like I don't think
• 1:03:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so for me I'm
• 1:03:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: very much enjoying my
• 1:03:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: playthrough again like replaying
• 1:03:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it and I do think it helps
• 1:03:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: give me perspective on how long it takes
• 1:03:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to get to these new upgrades
• 1:04:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: um
• 1:04:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: - Yeah, but that's like an academic thing, right?
• 1:04:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Like, is that the same thing as actually enjoying it
• 1:04:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and wanting to go back and doing it
• 1:04:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, no, no. So what I'm saying is, like, I'm enjoying it in general, but I'm saying, like, it is interesting to also get to see, like, from this new playthrough, where do I hit, like, the actual automation and, like, the helpful parts of it.
• 1:04:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So, like, regardless of where I hit those, I'm still enjoying my time. However, I do wish some of them were earlier on in the game.
• 1:04:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Well, because that's the thing, right, because by the time we hit all of the wall, we wouldn't have unlocked any of this automation.
• 1:04:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No.
• 1:04:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: All of this automation was after the walls we hit.
• 1:04:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So if we hadn't got any further in the game when we recorded the last episode than we had, we would still have all the same complaints.
• 1:04:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And I don't feel like that was early in the game.
• 1:04:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:04:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, it was a good amount
• 1:04:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because we were at least
• 1:04:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: at level 50 in the mines, so that's at least
• 1:04:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: halfway through the mines.
• 1:04:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And that's like, I would say,
• 1:04:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: halfway through the
• 1:05:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: town tier also, which is
• 1:05:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: a good...
• 1:05:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah we were in this we were in the 60s I think in the town levels
• 1:05:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, so that was
• 1:05:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: a good judge for
• 1:05:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: all right a couple more farming things uh so they added a seed maker which pretty much works
• 1:05:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: where you are in the game
• 1:05:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: too, I think.
• 1:05:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes.
• 1:05:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like the stardew one I like it is good yeah good good good add well it's nice for everything like
• 1:05:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It's nice for, like, forageable
• 1:05:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: things.
• 1:05:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:05:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I like I don't have to buy any seeds anymore um because especially with um I i still I i still
• 1:05:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: think this is one of the better
• 1:05:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: reasons
• 1:05:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: rewarding farming
• 1:05:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: things where when you water
• 1:05:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you get seeds sometimes
• 1:05:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yes I love that I love that so much
• 1:05:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and when you
• 1:05:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:05:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: harvest you sometimes get food
• 1:05:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like I just think they've really got
• 1:05:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah it's it's it's honestly so great it's it's great I love that I love that you get
• 1:05:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the rewards for farming
• 1:05:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: down
• 1:05:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's everything else
• 1:05:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: rest like you get seeds you get cooked food like new cooked food I love those little benefits
• 1:05:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I i think it's excellent like i'm now so i'm in summer just now and i'm mostly just growing tea
• 1:06:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and so my kind of loop is I will water everything uh get a bunch of tea seeds throw them in my bag
• 1:06:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: um and then by the time I get to the end of the season I will check how many I have and if I don't
• 1:06:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: have enough seeds for the next year's season for tea I will throw a bunch in the seed maker to make
• 1:06:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: up to that amount.
• 1:06:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So the next year,
• 1:06:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I don't have to buy any seeds.
• 1:06:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, that's so nice. Yeah.
• 1:06:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And then I'll take all those tea seeds
• 1:06:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I'll go make them all into tea
• 1:06:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: in the cooking
• 1:06:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, that's nice.
• 1:06:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and then I'll throw them in.
• 1:06:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But I also think that
• 1:06:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because I think their loops
• 1:06:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: are really good, right?
• 1:06:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So like I go,
• 1:06:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I water,
• 1:06:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which gives me seeds
• 1:06:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so that I can plant more.
• 1:06:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And then I harvest,
• 1:06:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which gives me some food
• 1:06:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it also gives me the stuff.
• 1:06:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I use the stuff to make more food
• 1:06:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I can either use the food to eat
• 1:06:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and then continue doing stuff
• 1:06:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: or I can sell it.
• 1:06:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And if you sell it,
• 1:06:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm. Yep.
• 1:06:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: a lot, a lot of town renown.
• 1:07:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I've never said that out loud.
• 1:07:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's a ridiculous statement.
• 1:07:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You get a lot of renown
• 1:07:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: for those things.
• 1:07:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Like I was with my,
• 1:07:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you know, 216 crops just now.
• 1:07:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm gaining every,
• 1:07:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think it's like every four days
• 1:07:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the tea is,
• 1:07:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm gaining nearly two full levels
• 1:07:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: every time I harvest.
• 1:07:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, wow. Oh, oh, wow. Okay.
• 1:07:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's so good.
• 1:07:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: That's how I'm up so high.
• 1:07:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think by the end of summer,
• 1:07:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'll be at level 90.
• 1:07:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: oh interesting okay because yeah because I know you get more renown from that but I i am obviously
• 1:07:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: not at your level of tea harvesting um I know i'm too busy running around like an idiot
• 1:07:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: gotta get good
• 1:07:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but I think I think this is the thing is that like that loop is really good right because then
• 1:07:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the the town renown gets you more levels and gets you other stuff my my my issue is that the it's
• 1:07:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's still the the watering is the difficult part because it's like it it stops you expanding more
• 1:08:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes.
• 1:08:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like yeah I i get I get more seeds but I can't plant
• 1:08:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: It just, it's so energy consuming.
• 1:08:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: them just now because I don't have the energy to water them later and because as we mentioned
• 1:08:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No.
• 1:08:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yep.
• 1:08:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I can't really get any more watering statues just now it's just a really frustrating thing it's it's
• 1:08:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yep.
• 1:08:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so close to being if they just removed if they just reduced the amount of stamina used as you go up this
• 1:08:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: tools because i'm on i'm on a the mistral watering can right like i'm at the max watering can you can
• 1:08:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: get as far as i'm aware and unless there's something i'm missing and and it still uses my entire energy
• 1:08:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: doing just six plots online.
• 1:08:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - Yeah, it's, it's too much.
• 1:08:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Of six by six.
• 1:08:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's wild.
• 1:08:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Well, the other thing they've added in the farming is greenhouses.
• 1:08:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, okay, I haven't gotten up to those yet,
• 1:08:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: but I'm excited for that.
• 1:08:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So the greenhouses are very expensive.
• 1:08:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You get one for free through the thing where you unlock it.
• 1:08:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But my goodness, a small greenhouse is, I think, let me check.
• 1:09:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Give me, I want to get.
• 1:09:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: On that note, I do really like the terrariums and the beehives.
• 1:09:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: They're fun.
• 1:09:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, why don't you talk about them?
• 1:09:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, because I think I don't think we had them in the early access, but I I like them as they produce honey.
• 1:09:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So that's you have that for crafting and for selling and for recipes.
• 1:09:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And then you also get varying levels of bug bait and bug pheromone and fish bait, which is so nice for your trap, your fish traps.
• 1:09:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Trying to collect a specific fish or a specific bug at a certain time, they're very helpful.
• 1:09:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And also there's different museum collections for them, which is interesting.
• 1:09:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So I think there's just like a fun little added mechanic of like collecting.
• 1:09:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I agree, I agree.
• 1:09:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: And can be helpful, like they're not a guarantee, which is, you know, annoying, but there's no guarantees.
• 1:10:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no no I i've not put a lot into those because it's the effort feels like a lot for where i
• 1:10:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: currently am and i'm not kind of like trying to finish the museum just now
• 1:10:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I think I think they're better for earlier on and for helping with collecting.
• 1:10:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: earlier and later
• 1:10:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly um so yeah I double checked the prices so for a small
• 1:10:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because there's definitely some moments where I'm like, well, I don't have that item right now, so I just take the bugs out and I.
• 1:10:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: greenhouse which is a five by five greenhouse it's 50 000 and for a large greenhouse which is a 10 by 10
• 1:10:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which is a decent size that is a hundred thousand for one it is so expensive so like I and like i'm
• 1:10:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - Oh my god, oh my god.
• 1:10:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: at the point where I i currently my the money I have is 250 000 so I could buy two greenhouses
• 1:10:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: if I wanted, but that would be
• 1:11:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But then you'd be so poor, yeah.
• 1:11:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: almost my entire money, exactly
• 1:11:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so obviously the good
• 1:11:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like I think the thing is they tried
• 1:11:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to balance the greenhouses because
• 1:11:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - Mm-hmm.
• 1:11:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: what I do like is the fact that you can have multiple
• 1:11:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: greenhouses, that is a really good addition
• 1:11:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I like the fact that you can do that because
• 1:11:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: greenhouses have always felt a little bit restricted
• 1:11:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: in these games, like you know, Stardew
• 1:11:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is the standard of like, you get your greenhouse
• 1:11:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, you can only have the one.
• 1:11:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and you're like, okay great
• 1:11:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it's never a perfect layout and blah blah blah blah blah
• 1:11:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Mm-hmm.
• 1:11:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: whatever
• 1:11:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but the fact that you can have multiple
• 1:11:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh my god, the layout in there.
• 1:11:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is great, but then they balance that
• 1:11:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: with making them incredibly expensive.
• 1:11:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, which I guess makes sense, you know,
• 1:11:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because otherwise it's like you could just grow things all year round, I guess.
• 1:11:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: how dare we how dare we be more efficient
• 1:11:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh no.
• 1:11:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I double checked the large watering statue is seven by seven so I just want to complain about
• 1:11:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: How will you afford to water them all, Al?
• 1:11:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: this why would you give us two statues one which is 5x5 one which is 7x7 but
• 1:12:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: then you give us two greenhouses one of which is 5x5 and one of which is 10x10
• 1:12:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because they they hate us
• 1:12:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: They don't match.
• 1:12:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: The greenhouses don't match.
• 1:12:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: no I don't think so I don't think they do
• 1:12:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: The watering statues.
• 1:12:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: What am I going to do?
• 1:12:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Seven by seven.
• 1:12:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And then I've got three by three.
• 1:12:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So I'm wasting space.
• 1:12:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's the Stardew greenhouse all over again.
• 1:12:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: What are you doing?
• 1:12:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Does nobody who play these games care about nice layouts?
• 1:12:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Also, also, just a point.
• 1:12:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Just a point.
• 1:12:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Seven by seven.
• 1:12:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I understand why it's seven by seven, right?
• 1:12:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Because it's quite a lot bigger than five by five,
• 1:12:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but it's still an odd number.
• 1:12:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So that works nicely for putting the green
• 1:12:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: house in the middle. Sorry, the
• 1:12:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: statue in the middle. Yeah, sure.
• 1:12:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Statue, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Great. Fine. Here's a
• 1:12:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: problem. See, if I run out of
• 1:12:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: essence and so I have to manually water,
• 1:12:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, it sucks to water.
• 1:12:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I can only water in six
• 1:12:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: by six.
• 1:12:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So what am I doing? I'm going to put out
• 1:12:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: six
• 1:12:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: of these out so I can
• 1:12:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: then do six.
• 1:13:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Stupid!
• 1:13:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:13:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I agree.
• 1:13:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: 42 by
• 1:13:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: 42 so that I can water it by six
• 1:13:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: or by sevens. There you go. That's what we want.
• 1:13:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:13:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Right? Great. Just, I don't
• 1:13:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I, I, I...
• 1:13:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: every, this is something I hate
• 1:13:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: about every farming game and they never do
• 1:13:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it well. There's always something that doesn't
• 1:13:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: work with the numbers. Why
• 1:13:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: would you do this?
• 1:13:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I never understood that. And like, aren't, aren't, aren't game programmers and developers, like, shouldn't they be good at math? Shouldn't they understand this?
• 1:13:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Also, oh,
• 1:13:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Also, a gold watering can gives you 6x6.
• 1:13:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Mistral watering can, can you guess what it would give you that's bigger than 6x6?
• 1:13:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Six by seven?
• 1:13:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: No, it's not that bad.
• 1:13:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But like a 6x6, you might think, oh, maybe it'll go up to like, you know, 10x10 or something like that.
• 1:13:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:13:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It goes up to 6x9.
• 1:13:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh.
• 1:13:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: 6x9?
• 1:13:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Why?
• 1:13:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: What do you mean 6x9?
• 1:13:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I have six pots of 6x6 just now.
• 1:14:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It literally gives me no advantage.
• 1:14:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:14:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It takes the same number of waterings on 6x6 and 6x9.
• 1:14:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:14:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: What are you doing?
• 1:14:08
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Well, it doesn't use your extra
• 1:14:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: energy, it just wastes your time.
• 1:14:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Well, that is a good point.
• 1:14:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: That is a good point.
• 1:14:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It doesn't use extra energy, but it...
• 1:14:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because I did
• 1:14:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: note that with the rocks and everything, too.
• 1:14:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 1:14:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I was like, am I wasting energy
• 1:14:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: using the bigger one? Which is
• 1:14:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 1:14:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Oh, all right.
• 1:14:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: nice, but it does waste your time.
• 1:14:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think that's all I have for the farming and the animal.
• 1:14:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Okay, so my thing
• 1:14:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that I realized is that
• 1:14:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: if you do the math on foods
• 1:14:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you're cooking, you're almost never making
• 1:14:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: a profit in terms of ingredients
• 1:14:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to recipe.
• 1:14:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah I think often the profit is very small yeah i'm not doing it for the
• 1:14:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: If there is.
• 1:14:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Some of them you actually lose money.
• 1:14:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But the thing is, you're not doing it for the profit.
• 1:14:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: i'm not doing it for the profit i'm doing it for that cooking skill and i'm doing it for that town
• 1:14:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:14:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yep.
• 1:14:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: renown yeah I i I legitimately when I realized that tea you could just make on its own just tea
• 1:14:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yep. And to sell them and
• 1:14:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to get better, like
• 1:14:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: maybe I want an infusion in my meal.
• 1:15:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: leaves and you make a profit of 10 per tea which is not a lot but I went for I went I went up to
• 1:15:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:15:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yep I did that with like I think a lot of the other drinks like the coconut drinks and like the
• 1:15:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: 1660 in like two days it was incredible
• 1:15:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: hmm yeah
• 1:15:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I was like oh this is such an easy way to just get uh so much extra now but yeah so the point of
• 1:15:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: cooking recipes is not to actually make a profit profit it's to especially with ingredients that
• 1:15:32
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: oil or rock salt or soy sauce you're not making a profit with that but you are getting other benefits
• 1:15:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and sometimes you get an extra ingredient sometimes you get an extra meal
• 1:15:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah so I think I i'm so oh goodness me I got into a loop once with with my tea leaves where i
• 1:15:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mm-hmm
• 1:15:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: cooked I cooked my 216 tea leaves and I got an extra 24 tea leaves and I cooked those 24 tea
• 1:15:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: leaves and I got an extra four tea leaves and so I cooked those four tea leaves and I got an extra
• 1:15:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: tea leaf and then I cooked that one tea leaf I got an extra tea leaf and then I cooked that one
• 1:16:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: tea leaf and guess what kelly I got another tea leaf
• 1:16:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you got an extra one but this is so that I think that goes back to your point of like
• 1:16:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the good rewards like from farming like I think that their reward system is set up very well
• 1:16:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah mostly mostly yeah I think what so this actually brings me nicely into into my my still
• 1:16:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: in that sense mostly of course there's there's always going to be an issue
• 1:16:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: complaint about this game is the magic so the mana the mana in this game is still so hard to get
• 1:16:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes.
• 1:16:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: um and and they've not made it any easier so the ways you get mana so you have you can have
• 1:16:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So you have different magic spells.
• 1:16:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And they cost like one orb or two orbs.
• 1:16:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And then when you sleep overnight, you gain a quarter of an orb.
• 1:16:52
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So it takes four days to get one orb.
• 1:16:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Can I tell you something stupid I was doing you know those water found the water bowls the
• 1:16:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Please do.
• 1:17:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: stones bowls whatever they're called my brain just broke trying to think of
• 1:17:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the word for a while in my head I thought that they restored your mana so what I would do is
• 1:17:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: if only
• 1:17:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I would use up all my energy like collecting cutting down trees doing stuff on the farm
• 1:17:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I would make sure I would hit one
• 1:17:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: of those when I was at the bottom of my energy
• 1:17:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: use a full restore
• 1:17:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and then drink from it and not look at my
• 1:17:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like little mana balls
• 1:17:29
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Ah, no!
• 1:17:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to see if they were refilling
• 1:17:32
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so I probably did that for like a week
• 1:17:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: You just wasted an hour of a day.
• 1:17:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah I was just wasting
• 1:17:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: them but like I don't use the thing is
• 1:17:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I wasn't using the full restores enough to
• 1:17:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: notice
• 1:17:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so like it didn't register to me at all
• 1:17:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 1:17:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and then one day I did it and I was like
• 1:17:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I am so stupid
• 1:17:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like why did I
• 1:17:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: how did I not notice that this was
• 1:17:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it just doesn't even give you a lot of energy
• 1:17:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: back it just gives you like a little
• 1:18:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: blip like eating a soup
• 1:18:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah I just I don't understand what we're meant I don't I don't understand what we're meant
• 1:18:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: anyway that's my stupid point
• 1:18:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: of magic and I forget to use it all the time
• 1:18:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to do with the the mana because it feels like so I'm gonna I presume you've not played Moonlight
• 1:18:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Peaks okay so Moonlight Peaks is uh it's Stardew but you're a vampire it's not it's fun I really
• 1:18:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No. Which one is that one?
• 1:18:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, cute.
• 1:18:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: enjoyed it I put like a good 40 50 hours into it and I had a really good time with it
• 1:18:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - Oh, I've seen this one, okay, yeah.
• 1:18:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so it also has a magic system because you are uh you you're actually the the spawn of Dracula and a
• 1:18:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: witch so you are both uh magic and a vampire um and so you uh you can you can cast magic um they
• 1:18:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: have a similar system with the magic almost identical except that you gain a full orb every
• 1:18:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: night not a quarter of an orb every night and they also have magical crops that you can grow
• 1:19:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and if you grow these magical crops you can then turn them into food which will replenish mana
• 1:19:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and you can do that pretty consistently in this game there are three ways to gain mana that I am aware
• 1:19:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: of one is that you gain a quarter of an orb every night which is an insanely low amount I'm just gonna
• 1:19:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: say that give me an orb a night please give me an orb a night why a quarter of an orb a night
• 1:19:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: .
• 1:19:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: every four days you can do one simple spell is just not good enough
• 1:19:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: um two is you can use the mana potions they will give you a full orb but the problem is you cannot
• 1:19:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: craft these you just come upon them either in chests or there's like there is a magical crop that
• 1:19:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you could do later on and sometimes when you harvest it it will give you that but it's like
• 1:19:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's not reliable enough right you you just you I have maybe in this game come across five of these
• 1:19:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: mana potions in
• 1:19:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: total is not
• 1:19:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: enough it's not
• 1:19:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: enough at all
• 1:20:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the third way you
• 1:20:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: do it is once
• 1:20:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you've unlocked a
• 1:20:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: specific cooking
• 1:20:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: perk um if you
• 1:20:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: craft a four star
• 1:20:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: meal there's a
• 1:20:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: chance that one
• 1:20:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: of them that it
• 1:20:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: will that it will
• 1:20:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: give you the mana
• 1:20:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: replenish ability as
• 1:20:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: well and it will
• 1:20:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: give you an orb
• 1:20:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: now the problem
• 1:20:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is the four star
• 1:20:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: menu items they
• 1:20:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: are very hard to
• 1:20:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: do they have five
• 1:20:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: different ingredients
• 1:20:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: each of them um
• 1:20:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: at least one of the items is a specific seasonal thing
• 1:20:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so one of them is pumpkin pie
• 1:20:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I have all of the ingredients
• 1:20:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: all of the ingredients except one
• 1:20:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you can just buy at the shop
• 1:20:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so the one ingredient you can't is of course the pumpkin
• 1:20:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and so as soon as I get into autumn next month
• 1:20:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I will be all of the pumpkins
• 1:20:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so I can make as many of that item as I possibly can
• 1:21:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because I don't have a real chance of making any of the other items
• 1:21:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because they require so much
• 1:21:06
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and trying to get those items is hard
• 1:21:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's not just stuff you can grow
• 1:21:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's just a bunch of other stuff
• 1:21:12
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and also I did 10 ice cream sundaes
• 1:21:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which is a 5 star thing
• 1:21:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so it's not even just 4 stars, 5 star
• 1:21:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I did 10 of them
• 1:21:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: not a single one had the mana replenish ability on
• 1:21:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so I
• 1:21:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: oh my god it's it's rough it's it's that's yeah I don't know
• 1:21:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: combine that
• 1:21:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: combine that
• 1:21:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: with the fact that it is so easy to misuse these spells
• 1:21:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: as you pointed out
• 1:21:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the dragon breath one that you just unlocked
• 1:21:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I used that once for trying to do something
• 1:21:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I stood in the wrong spot
• 1:21:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it didn't work
• 1:21:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I wasted 2 orbs to do that
• 1:21:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: oh my god okay is that is that one intentionally hard to like aim like why does it change direction
• 1:21:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I do not know
• 1:21:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: from the way you're facing
• 1:21:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I don't know
• 1:21:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I guess but I i was like am I gonna set I i unlocked that that like uh rock door that's
• 1:21:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so I think that's accidental
• 1:22:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to do a spell
• 1:22:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yep correct yeah
• 1:22:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like next to errol is that his name his house he's like am I gonna set his I i really am i
• 1:22:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah I will say that ability was so incredibly fun to go around your farm killing everything
• 1:22:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: going to set his house on fire like why am I shooting fireballs into his house
• 1:22:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: for 10 seconds
• 1:22:26
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but just be warning it does kill everything so if you have like beehives set up it will kill them
• 1:22:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: oh
• 1:22:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and like you just get them and you can put them back down again but it will
• 1:22:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Do you get items after you use it?
• 1:22:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yes yeah it's incredible for clearing rocks and
• 1:22:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, that's like a quick clean.
• 1:22:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh.
• 1:22:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and stuff like that it's so good but two orbs and almost no way to replenish it you can use it
• 1:22:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:22:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:22:49
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: once every eight days
• 1:22:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so I i I i I like the magic system it's very bare bones there's not a huge number of spells
• 1:22:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:22:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:23:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I wish there were ways to use a spell without pinning it you can just pin one of the spells
• 1:23:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and that's the one you have to use it's a little bit annoying it's not the end of the world but the
• 1:23:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: mana replenishment you gotta improve it you gotta give me a way to craft the mana potions
• 1:23:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: or give me something else that I can grow that gives me mana like give me a more guaranteed way
• 1:23:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to get it basically there's no guaranteed way to get mana except a quarter of an orb a night
• 1:23:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah no it's it's not a good system which is why I think in my head I was like oh you drink from
• 1:23:35
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: this and you'll get replacement because there's no other way to replace this stuff besides waiting
• 1:23:39
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: but that wasn't I was lying to myself
• 1:23:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yep frustrating um the other thing that we talked about
• 1:23:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that they now have is steam achievements uh I like steam achievements
• 1:23:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yes okay because as soon as I logged into the game uh everything popped up and I was like what's
• 1:23:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so many steam achievements
• 1:23:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: 44 steam achievements
• 1:23:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: happening like why is why am I getting all of these and then I was like oh I remember now
• 1:23:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I will say that is the way to do things please and thank you yes if you add
• 1:24:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: achievements please uh award them retroactively don't make me do them all again
• 1:24:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah, because I was like, oh my god, what? I literally opened the game and Steam was just, like, pinging me. I was like, I didn't even do anything. I didn't even start a new game yet. What do you mean?
• 1:24:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: again
• 1:24:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah agreed
• 1:24:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, that was nice. I love it. I love it. It's...
• 1:24:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I do it's I know it's so silly anytime i'm playing a game on switch i'm sad because i
• 1:24:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I know. I know. I don't understand why they don't do it, especially when that game has achievements on other side.
• 1:24:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: don't get steam achievements I don't get achievements give me achievements nintendo
• 1:24:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah especially frustrating there was some was it stardew implemented their achievements on switch
• 1:24:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's just it's entirely within game which is so much more work for them to do incredible amounts
• 1:24:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think they did.
• 1:24:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think they did.
• 1:24:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I don't remember.
• 1:24:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: of work for them to do because they have to implement the ui and uh you know this the storing
• 1:25:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: of everything whereas all of that is like technically speaking generally how these
• 1:25:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: achievement things work is the in-game you call a specific function that the um for whatever
• 1:25:16
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: platform you're on and you say hey this person has done this team achievement um and they even have
• 1:25:20
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: things that allow them to keep track of it so they can say hey this person has done one percent of this
• 1:25:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: oh they've done another one percent of it and then it will keep track of that and it'll tell you when
• 1:25:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's done so generally these uh achievements are are not very hard to add they are harder when you add
• 1:25:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: them retrospectively as with so many things i've talked about in things so if you want to add steam
• 1:25:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: achievements add them from the base game do not leave them till 1.0 like Fields of Mistria did
• 1:25:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Because that would have been so much...
• 1:25:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: much work for them to retroactively do,
• 1:25:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but I'm so glad they did.
• 1:25:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I'm sure they I think they did it the right way to considering that we all got our rights
• 1:25:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Absolutely.
• 1:25:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Also, because apparently this is a thing,
• 1:25:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I still need to keep saying
• 1:25:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: thank you Fields of Mysteria
• 1:26:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: for not wiping out my save file at 1.0,
• 1:26:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which so many games do
• 1:26:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: um can I can I say actually I love that they have every single save that i've ever done
• 1:26:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and it annoys me so much.
• 1:26:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: stored in this game essentially
• 1:26:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because I can go back I can go back to my original playthrough and and select
• 1:26:14
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: which is what they should do,
• 1:26:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because that's what every game does after 1.0.
• 1:26:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: a variety of places to go and play from that and I was like wow this is so I i just realized that
• 1:26:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: actually a few days ago and I was like this is so nice it's like you don't even get like the
• 1:26:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, no, I agree.
• 1:26:34
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the standard like four saves it's like no there's there's so many
• 1:26:40
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah. Yeah. No, they do. They do. They do. The save. I have so many complaints about how games do saves and I've never had a single complaint about Fields of Mistria. I've done it. It's really good. And I try. I try so hard to have complaints. It's literally my job to have complaints.
• 1:26:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Hmm.
• 1:26:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No.
• 1:26:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, no, they do that.
• 1:26:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: They do that really good.
• 1:26:59
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I like that set up.
• 1:27:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: uh let me check my list to see if there was anything else oh performance this game really
• 1:27:08
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: really good so I have my um my ally x and some games will load up on that game on that console
• 1:27:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and i'll have half an hour an hour of battery life because they're just so intensive or badly
• 1:27:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you know run I i barely have to charge this thing when playing Fields of Mistria like
• 1:27:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: i'm i'm legitimately shocked at how good how well performing and how good with the battery this
• 1:27:37
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: game is they have done some incredible work on this like I just it just it's not a thing that i
• 1:27:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: have to worry about I never hear the fans go on I never I i and legitimately like I i charged this
• 1:27:50
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: thing yesterday and it's at 35 now and i've been playing for like four or five hours in that time
• 1:27:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like that's unheard of for these
• 1:27:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: for this console it's just
• 1:28:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: bizarre
• 1:28:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it's so good I'm really impressed
• 1:28:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I've never seen any slowdowns
• 1:28:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: any you know frame
• 1:28:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah no I have I have the same experience on I'm playing it on my laptop and like I have a laptop
• 1:28:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: drops any of that it's great
• 1:28:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think it's really really good
• 1:28:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it's it's a good laptop for gaming it's not a great one but um you know I've played other
• 1:28:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I've played other farming games and my fans will go on and or like I can't watch YouTube
• 1:28:28
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah.
• 1:28:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: playing other games because it'll mess up the frame rate you know because like LA
• 1:28:34
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
• 1:28:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it's a farming game I like to watch some some videos while I do this and I have not had any
• 1:28:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: issues I've been watching deep sea YouTube videos with no problem no no janky frame rates nothing
• 1:28:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so I think that is uh definitely something to commend them on also
• 1:28:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: okay um
• 1:28:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think that was everything on my list.
• 1:28:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So is there anything else on your list?
• 1:28:58
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: um like complaint wise from like the original or just in general
• 1:29:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Just anything else you want to talk about.
• 1:29:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: um I think fishing is fine I think at this I will say I think out of all the farming games
• 1:29:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the fishing in this one doesn't draw me in as much as some other ones do and I really like fishing
• 1:29:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: but not in like a bad way I still spend a lot of time fishing like don't get me wrong I just I don't
• 1:29:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: know I don't know if it's it's fine it's I think there's yeah yeah yeah I think that is what it is
• 1:29:22
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah I think it's because there's no there's no real mini game so you you like that challenge don't
• 1:29:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think that like I I don't think it's a bad fishing setup I just don't think it has the draw
• 1:29:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that some of the other ones do I think there's yeah because you're not a big fishing yeah um like
• 1:29:38
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: That's fair. Whereas I feel the opposite. I prefer that not.
• 1:29:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I do I think I've filled up a good amount of my museums with fish um and I do like like you know
• 1:29:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 1:29:48
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yes
• 1:29:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: there's still obviously your weather related ones or the rarer ones or the fish bait ones like there's
• 1:29:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 1:29:54
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: one thing I found weird is there are a large
• 1:29:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: ones that you can only catch if you use fish bait
• 1:29:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yes yeah because I find that
• 1:29:59
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: number of fish that just don't go in the museum
• 1:30:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: at all which is weird
• 1:30:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: why
• 1:30:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah oh here's a new
• 1:30:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: confusing because like I have spent a good amount of time like being like yeah yeah okay sure and like
• 1:30:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: fish that I've not encountered what do you mean it doesn't go in
• 1:30:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it is interesting because there is a lot that do go in from things like fish bait and stuff like that
• 1:30:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and it's like well okay um but yeah like I think the fishing is fine like again I still have put a lot
• 1:30:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah, I don't really think, yeah, I, I don't think anything's really changed other than the bait from the, the, the thing that you talked about before, but it's, yeah, it's nice, it's a good addition, but it's not like, it doesn't fundamentally change.
• 1:30:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: of time into fishing so it's not as if I hate the fishing I just don't think it has any
• 1:30:31
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah which is
• 1:30:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: nice which is yeah um but that's that's all I really have for fishing for mining I did like that um
• 1:30:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: there's a chest when you unlock that forge I like that they because I had tried putting a chest in the
• 1:30:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mine room multiple times in in early access and it would just remove the chest or like wouldn't let you
• 1:30:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
• 1:30:56
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yes yeah i've started using that for for for my dishes
• 1:31:02
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: put a
• 1:31:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: chest in
• 1:31:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: there
• 1:31:03
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:31:03
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because the mine is what is always where I need the extra food
• 1:31:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: exactly
• 1:31:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: so it's like
• 1:31:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I'd much
• 1:31:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: rather have
• 1:31:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that there
• 1:31:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and like
• 1:31:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: have a place
• 1:31:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: or like
• 1:31:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: say I pick
• 1:31:13
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: up a few
• 1:31:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: things on
• 1:31:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: my way to
• 1:31:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the mine
• 1:31:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: and I
• 1:31:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: don't want
• 1:31:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that in
• 1:31:16
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: my pockets
• 1:31:17
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: or I
• 1:31:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: want to
• 1:31:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: forge
• 1:31:19
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: something at
• 1:31:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the forge
• 1:31:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: before I
• 1:31:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: go into
• 1:31:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: the mine
• 1:31:21
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: or like
• 1:31:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I just
• 1:31:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: want to
• 1:31:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: leave it
• 1:31:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: there
• 1:31:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you know
• 1:31:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like I
• 1:31:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: think that's
• 1:31:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it's nice
• 1:31:25
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: to actually
• 1:31:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: have that
• 1:31:26
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: chest in
• 1:31:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: there now
• 1:31:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because that
• 1:31:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: is one
• 1:31:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: thing I
• 1:31:28
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: felt the
• 1:31:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: mines were
• 1:31:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: missing
• 1:31:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I
• 1:31:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: All right. Tell me how you're feeling about this game overall now, two years later.
• 1:31:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I still
• 1:31:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like it
• 1:31:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: a lot
• 1:31:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think
• 1:31:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think
• 1:31:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: it has
• 1:31:38
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: replayability
• 1:31:40
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: clearly
• 1:31:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because I've
• 1:31:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: done
• 1:31:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I've done
• 1:31:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: two playthroughs
• 1:31:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: now
• 1:31:43
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: obviously I haven't
• 1:31:44
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: finished the
• 1:31:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: second one
• 1:31:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I think it
• 1:31:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: is a
• 1:31:48
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like nicely
• 1:31:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: formed
• 1:31:49
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: fishing
• 1:31:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: farming
• 1:31:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: game
• 1:31:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like I
• 1:31:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: think it
• 1:31:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: holds its
• 1:31:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: own
• 1:31:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: without
• 1:31:54
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: suffering
• 1:31:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: too much
• 1:31:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: of like
• 1:31:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you know
• 1:31:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: being a
• 1:31:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: stardew
• 1:31:56
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: replica
• 1:31:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:31:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, that's always a difficult thing, right? Like when you have such a clearly it is a stardew lake, like there's no way around it. That's how we described it two years ago. That's always what you're going to be compared to. But I think it does. I think it does a decent job. I still struggle to care about any of the characters, which I think is as big as flaw.
• 1:32:01
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah unfortunately
• 1:32:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that's yeah
• 1:32:07
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:32:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes. But, see, I don't hold that against it, because honestly, I think I struggle to connect with characters in most games. So, like, I'm not playing farming games for the romance or the character progression.
• 1:32:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: no but they make it they make it a thing right they if you don't if you don't want us to care
• 1:32:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I think... I understand that. I just think that in a lot of games where they expect romance, I don't care in general. So, like...
• 1:32:33
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: about romance you wouldn't put it in the game they want us to care about it so I do hold it against
• 1:32:45
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: For me, that's not, like, a draw or a failure. That's just my personal lack of interest in general. But, like, I do get your point. Like, I think if people are looking for that, like...
• 1:32:57
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I have a hard time judging it, because I can't tell if it's boring to me or boring in general, I guess, you know?
• 1:33:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is it that the characters are bad or is it just that you don't care about romance in general
• 1:33:10
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:11
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I would love I i'd love someone to like design like an aromantic dating game like what could
• 1:33:15
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Is it a personal problem or a game problem? Find out more.
• 1:33:22
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: That would be interesting.
• 1:33:24
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:33:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that because like aromantics still care about people right it's not like you never want to
• 1:33:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: have anything to do with people and so what would that what would that look like what would it look
• 1:33:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: to be in a game yeah but but make it but I think that's the thing is like most of these games they
• 1:33:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: like developing different levels of friendship yeah and like companion you can still have companionship
• 1:33:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: have different levels of friendship and then they go romantic but what would it what would
• 1:33:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah and I think that what annoys me honestly is that like if I keep talking to all these people
• 1:33:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: eventually they're going to be like close to like they're going to be on the romantic
• 1:34:00
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: end of the spectrum and it's like is that necessary to me I don't think so
• 1:34:01
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: exactly
• 1:34:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: uh-huh yeah so what would it look to do that without everything having to be romantic
• 1:34:05
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah like I think if you made it so that if you wanted it to be romantic
• 1:34:14
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you could do something to gesture that you know what I mean and that would
• 1:34:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yes so um uh moonlight peaks actually has a good way of doing this you get to a certain point
• 1:34:20
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you
• 1:34:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: in a relationship and you can uh one of the options you have is ask them out on a date
• 1:34:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and that feels like a really good way of being like oh this would be the point where it's like
• 1:34:32
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Uh, okay.
• 1:34:35
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: you can make it specific you like ask them out on a romantic date or you could ask them out on a
• 1:34:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: friend something right like you can you could that that's not how it does it but i'm saying
• 1:34:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: okay
• 1:34:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:34:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: it could do that, right?
• 1:34:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: If you wanted to actually...
• 1:34:46
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: because you still want those
• 1:34:47
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: If you wanted to lean into this.
• 1:34:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: you still want those like story
• 1:34:50
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: progressions
• 1:34:51
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: yeah
• 1:34:51
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Exactly, that's my point.
• 1:34:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So I think you could expand that.
• 1:34:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm not saying what Moonlight Peaks has is perfect.
• 1:34:57
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I'm saying they have the idea of,
• 1:35:00
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: hey, we're going romantic now.
• 1:35:02
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And so could you do that
• 1:35:04
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: while also having the equivalent of,
• 1:35:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: like, ask them to meet up
• 1:35:09
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: rather than ask them on a date
• 1:35:09
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, like a story tree instead of just a clear-cut path.
• 1:35:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: or something like that?
• 1:35:13
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:35:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I feel like there's something there
• 1:35:17
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and I feel like it's underserved
• 1:35:18
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: because the thing is,
• 1:35:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: they either go, here's romance,
• 1:35:21
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: or they go, no.
• 1:35:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, yeah. There's no middle ground. Yeah, exactly. I do like all of the updates. I think
• 1:35:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: There's no, like, there's no in-between.
• 1:35:30
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that they have added things that... I think getting past the early access wall was very
• 1:35:37
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: interesting to see how they progressed. Like, I think, you know, we aired our grievances
• 1:35:41
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: about wishing for automation earlier on. But I...
• 1:35:44
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yeah. So speak, speak, speak on that.
• 1:35:46
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Do you just mean in terms of like whether it feels like it's a continuation of the same game or a different game?
• 1:35:53
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Is that the sort of thing you're talking about?
• 1:35:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, I feel like it feels like a continuation of the same game, which is, I personally like, I would, I don't know if I would want it to veer off so heavily after the, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah no that's that's exactly my point like that's what you want
• 1:36:07
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: whereas I think sometimes when you come back to a game it sometimes feels like a different game
• 1:36:11
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: No, I think they did a very good job of maintaining what this game is, and then just following that path while trying to correct some of the things that were maybe bad.
• 1:36:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah but deciding that none of them come earlier in the game I think for me
• 1:36:27
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But hey, we made it through the first time.
• 1:36:29
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So if I can make it through the first time, I can make it through the second time.
• 1:36:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: true but that doesn't mean it's fun I think that's I think that's my thing is they it didn't feel like
• 1:36:33
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah.
• 1:36:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: they felt like they could add any of those changes in the stuff that it felt like they were going
• 1:36:42
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I guess, yeah, that is a good point.
• 1:36:43
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: this is the early access is the early access and we're not changing that which I think is a flaw
• 1:36:52
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, okay, I see your point, and I do agree with that.
• 1:36:55
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because again, I do wish that some of those earlier automations came out earlier in the game.
• 1:37:04
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Because I think it would just allow you to be less stressed out and have more room to do other things.
• 1:37:10
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: All right, cool. Any final thoughts on this before we wrap up?
• 1:37:12
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Um, I'm going to keep playing it. I still very much enjoy this game.
• 1:37:18
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: So, I'm glad I got to come back and talk to you about it after Early Access, finally.
• 1:37:23
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: You know?
• 1:37:23
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Yes, it's always nice.
• 1:37:24
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We don't always come back to games on the podcast.
• 1:37:27
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So it's nice that we actually managed to do this.
• 1:37:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: And we both had a decent amount.
• 1:37:31
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I double checked.
• 1:37:32
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It looks like I've put in about 40 hours of 1.0.
• 1:37:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah.
• 1:37:36
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So about the same as what I did in the previous one.
• 1:37:39
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: So, yeah.
• 1:37:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: All right.
• 1:37:41
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Awesome.
• 1:37:42
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Well, thank you for joining me to talk about Fields of Mysteria.
• 1:37:45
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Is there anything you'd like to share with the audience?
• 1:37:47
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: nope I just want to say thank you for having me back on again and I like it our our little
• 1:37:53
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: podcast meetups you know of course
• 1:37:55
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: any time kelly any time well any time there's something to talk about
• 1:37:58
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: sometimes I do wonder whether I just do this podcast so I can talk to my friends on a weekly
• 1:38:05
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: basis yeah you can follow the podcast on tumblr and on blue sky at thspod you can send us feedback
• 1:38:06
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: I mean, is there anything wrong with that?
• 1:38:15
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: from our website harvestseason.club where you can also find links to everything to do with the
• 1:38:19
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: podcast including a link to our patreon patreon.com slash thspod where you can get access to the
• 1:38:25
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: slack and also get access to our bonus episodes hopefully of which we'll have on
• 1:38:30
  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: avatar seven havens in a few weeks maybe we'll see um yeah I think that's everything thank you
• 1:38:36
  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Thank you again, Al, for having me.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: again kelly for joining me thank you listeners for listening and until next time have a good harvest
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Bye.
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  01015DBC-5AC6-49A4-858F-129183C10745: Theme Tune: to things we discussed in this episode
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We didn't manage it in the hour and a half
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that we'd originally planned for,
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: but two hours.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: But I don't think we went, yeah, which is still not, we could be worse for us.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We could be worse.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: We could be worse.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I think we still have the, like,
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: is it second longest episode is ours?
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh boy, which one is it?
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Our, our, oh goodness.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Let me check.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Give me, give me a minute.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Let me grab.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: I do actually have a script
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: that every time I add an episode,
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the stats of what the longest episodes are
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: It's longest episode.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: Nope.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: top durations and the top one that's uh and kelly oh it's so um your longest one is actually
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the one you did with Codey about
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: what was that episode oh yes that'll be the silksong one yeah so that was that was two hours 24
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: The Silksong one?
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: OK, OK.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Yeah, I was going to say, because I know in our thing
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: that it says we talked for like two hours and four
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah yeah and then our longest one mine and yours was the Fields of Mistria one which was two hours
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, that's funny.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and 80 so you are you have two of the top was that top
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so you have the fifth longest and the
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: and the 11th longest
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: yeah
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Not bad for stats, I'm pretty happy with that.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: just just don't ask about uh I think I think the person with the most longest ones is micah
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: so the actual the longest one is Codey and chelsea from a few weeks ago uh they talked about what was
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: - Mm, okay.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: they talked about Bee Simulator and that was two hours and 47 minutes.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: Oh, okay, okay.
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: But then the second is me and Micah, the third is me and Micah,
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: the seventh is me and Micah, and they are one of two episodes.
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  836AAD16-63D0-431F-A729-6759CFA51534: Kelly: [laughs]
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: They are either episodes on Story of Seasons or Harvest Moon,
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  E741809F-351E-48E9-A9CD-A894237D104E: Al: or they are the Game of the Year episodes.