Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Alan Steinfeld – New Realities for Humanity
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- 0:04My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
- 0:10fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and the crossroads at which they meet.
- 0:17Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more with
- 0:22fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to destination unlimited. What
- 0:34inspires someone to embark on a career of investigating and sharing events and experiences of
- 0:41high strangeness, including UFO, uap et disclosure, remote viewing, and psychic
- 0:49phenomenon Returning to Destination unlimited this week is my friend Alan Steinfeld. Alan is
- 0:56an explorer of consciousness. For more than thirty years, he's hosted and produced
- 1:00a weekly television series in New York City called New Realities. His YouTube channel
- 1:07of the same name has more than twenty three million views of his in depth
- 1:11interviews. He's the author of the award winning bestseller Making Contact. With his
- 1:17book, media appearances, lectures, and conferences, he informs millions about human
- 1:23potential, remote viewing, and the nature of alien contact. He feels that
- 1:27only when the inner explorations of the soul are combined with the outer adventures of
- 1:33the mind can we achieve a harmonious understanding of our place in the cosmos.
- 1:38He lives in New York. You may find more of his work on his
- 1:42YouTube channel New Realities and on his remote viewing classes on lightnet dot org.
- 1:48He joins me this week to discuss his path and new realities for humanity.
- 1:53Please join me in welcoming to Destination Unlimited Allan Steinfeld. Welcome back, Alan,
- 2:00Thank you, Thank you, Victor. Always nice to be talking with
- 2:05you, so thank you. We have the pleasure of meeting again a few
- 2:07weeks ago at the wonderful New Life Expo, and you graciously asked me to
- 2:13share one of my poems during that opening panel. Thank you so much for
- 2:15them. I'm grateful to you. Actually, did you see the comments on
- 2:20the video I posted about that? They said that was the most beautiful poem
- 2:23anyone's ever heard. Oh, thank you, thank you so much comments.
- 2:29I have to say, I have to say that you were one of my
- 2:30personal heroes for all of the amazing work that you've done over the years.
- 2:35I have to say that which amazing work are you talking about? Because I'm
- 2:38saying personally, I don't think i've ever I've done enough. I have so
- 2:43much Oh no, no, you're you're in the prime. I'm just saying
- 2:46I remember seeing you years ago on New Realities television show on local cable here
- 2:52in New York. That's how far back we go. Oh I didn't realize
- 2:55that. Yeah, I'm still doing the cable on That actually opened the door
- 3:00for all this content for you YouTube. When YouTube began, I was one
- 3:04of the first YouTube creators, and I just had no people scrambling for content,
- 3:08and I had, you know, twenty years of interviews. Absolutely,
- 3:13so for our listeners meeting you for the first time, please share your early
- 3:16path and your interests and how this led to New Realities. M that's a
- 3:23good question. I think about that a lot people ask me, and it's
- 3:25always like, well, I always felt like I was different than a lot
- 3:30of other people, Like right now, I'm with my family for Thanksgiving.
- 3:34Very nice people, very normal, not interested in anything I'm interested in.
- 3:40I was always looking in my book making contact. They talk about in my
- 3:45chapter how I was always looking up at the stars and wondering what was up
- 3:50there, and just thinking about different things than normal people would think about.
- 3:55I mean, I guess it was normal for me, but you know,
- 3:59everyone was interested in baseball teams. I had a little bit of an interest
- 4:02in Cup scouts and doing the thing, and I was reading science fiction.
- 4:09You know, I think that's actually maybe how it began. I was a
- 4:13big science fiction fan, and because they represented a different perspective, at least
- 4:18some of the books. Ray Bradberry I think was one of my favorites.
- 4:24And so when I find found out that actually UFOs are real and they sing
- 4:30to be real and we'll talk about that later, I said, really,
- 4:33And that just kind of fulfilled my actuality of a science fiction fantasy that when
- 4:40you're reading something you think it's real even though it's fiction. That's why that's
- 4:44the appeal of fiction, right, it's real, it means something. If
- 4:49it didn't me anything, people wouldn't read it. So fiction and I went
- 4:54on to become a literature major actually because I'm you know, I didn't think
- 4:59I was a good reader, but something about the understanding of consciousness that came
- 5:04through and studying literature that also got me into this field of consciousness. I
- 5:12spent a year studying James Joyce in college, and he wrote in a Stream
- 5:16of consciousness fashion and stream of consciousness was a term coined by William James,
- 5:24the American psychologist. But then it became a literary kind of technique. Virginia
- 5:30Woolf and a bunch of people started to just imitate the way the mind actually
- 5:35thought, as opposed to describing it. You were actually in the character's mind
- 5:42thinking what they were thinking as you read those words. And I thought that
- 5:46was fascinating and it showed like you could take perception and spinning any way you
- 5:51want. There is no objective observer really, it's all subjective reality. And
- 6:00so gradually I would have some strange experiences as I developed out of body experiences
- 6:08I'm talking about. My father was also a bit of a mystic. It
- 6:12gave me permission to pursue that realm. He had out of body experiences,
- 6:16he had some past like recalls. I mean, he wasn't a formal mystic,
- 6:20but he was a business person, but he had this side to him.
- 6:24We would go on Zen retreats together, eat brown rice for five days,
- 6:29and so he was open. And when you have a parent that's open
- 6:33to that, it kind of allows. It allowed me to pursue this full
- 6:40force because this spiritual path, let's call it, And I think that was
- 6:47the most sting, and of course, having experiences you seek can you find
- 6:51if you just right. So I'm sure some of this is familiar to you
- 6:57about your path. So that's sort of how I got into the whole new
- 7:00realities thing, because it's all a new reality, isn't it. Absolutely How
- 7:05did you found the shows? That's a good question, because I went to
- 7:11Santa Fe to study acupuncture. I say, a good acupuncture school. I
- 7:15mean before going to Santa Fe, I was living in New York doing film
- 7:18production. I needed a break from film production and my grandparents said they would
- 7:24help fund my education. I said, oh, because my grandfather always wanted
- 7:29me to be a doctor. I thought that was way too mainstream and a
- 7:32little boring. So I figured, well, Chinese medicine sounds interesting because it's
- 7:36all about energetics. So I was living in Santa Fe. I was rooming
- 7:42with this guy, Jonathan Lowe, who had his own cable show in Santa
- 7:46Fe. And I had worked in film in New York, so he said,
- 7:49hey, you want to help on the show. The show was called
- 7:51The Heart of Healing, the Haart the Heart the Heart really the Art of
- 7:58Healing in Santa Fe and then I'm helping out on the show and he says,
- 8:01Hey, would you like to interview this woman who was talking about dolphins.
- 8:05She would bring people on dolphin swims. I was very much interested in
- 8:09the dolphin consciousness. So I interviewed and I said, wow, I really
- 8:15like asking people questions. I really liked finding out what they know. And
- 8:22it was as an education. I started interviewing people. Then it came back
- 8:28to New York after school, and they didn't really want to open an office,
- 8:31acupuncture office and see people and listen to their basically complaining when most things,
- 8:37I mean, you can of course help people with some serious things and
- 8:39critical things, but most people I found I was working with was lifestyle problem.
- 8:46They want to lose weight, but they don't want to change their diet,
- 8:48so you know, you know, it was a little frustrating. So
- 8:54I found I found that, you know, film interviewing, and my friend
- 9:00Mitchell Raven was doing the show. I helped him, and I said,
- 9:03I can do this. I just went down to Manhattan Cable and signed up
- 9:07for my own show. In the beginning, I called it in the Company
- 9:11of Truth because it was about a spiritual kind of search. And then I
- 9:18thought that didn't really cover some of the UFO stuff, some of the paranormal
- 9:22stuff. So I don't know where that name came to me. It just
- 9:28sort of came new Realities. And someone said, why not reality new Reality?
- 9:33I said, because reality is not just one thing. So that name
- 9:39New Realities was something that just popped into my consciousness, sort of like my
- 9:45book Making Contact. I don't know where that came from, although after I
- 9:50thought of that, there were other books I found that had that name.
- 9:52But New Realities was what I was looking for. I was looking for new
- 9:58ways to perceive reality or realities, because realities is not singular. So and
- 10:05then I did my start in my show. I guess it was in nineteen
- 10:09ninety four on Manhattan Cabo, still running a Manhattan KVO. And then I
- 10:15had all this content for you. Went you to begin in two thousand and
- 10:18six, way before Google had bought you to The originators were looking for content,
- 10:24and I had it absolutely absolute. That was a wonderful story. Thank
- 10:28you for sharing that. You know, it's interesting you had the blessing of
- 10:31a father who understood what you were experiencing and understood your different approach to things.
- 10:37I did not. As a child. Growing up in the nineteen fifties,
- 10:39I was told I had an overactive imagination, and you were talking about
- 10:43reading books. And when I was in the first grade, my teacher had
- 10:48a book on the shelf called You Will Go to the Moon Now. This
- 10:50is nineteen fifty nine, and I said to the teacher, can I borrow
- 10:54that book and read it? And I said, and she said sure,
- 10:56and I took the book home. And about two weeks later, she said,
- 10:58you have to bring the book back. You were borrowing it. You
- 11:01have to bring it back. I said I can't and she says why.
- 11:03I said, because it's not right. The information in that book is not
- 11:07right. And she said how do you know when I said, because I've
- 11:09been there. And that's the story for another time. But really, way,
- 11:13that is interesting. How do you know it wasn't Really you knew this
- 11:18book wasn't right. That is so interesting because because I've had experiences since I
- 11:22was five years old, and I have memories of all of these things.
- 11:26And the teacher, you know, had called my parents, They called the
- 11:30principal, they called the school counselor, and everybody said, well, kid
- 11:33just has an overactive imagination. Little did they know or could they accept,
- 11:37that I was experiencing these things when I was growing up as a young child
- 11:41in the nineteen fifty So you and I, you and I could probably be
- 11:43brothers. I think we are brothers. I think on a soul level.
- 11:48Yeah, yeah, I think you. You were a little earlier than me.
- 11:52But yes, absolutely, I'm interested in your experiences. Let's do another
- 11:56show about that. Absolutely. Now. The last time you were wrong with
- 11:58me, we discussed your best selling book, Making Contact. Congratulations. That
- 12:03book has become a standard and a really wonderful bestseller. So congratulations. First
- 12:09of all, thank you for saying that it did win the Conscious Life Book
- 12:11Awards in twenty twenty three. I think it's about to go through its second
- 12:18printing, which is great. It's still selling on Amazon and bookstores. You
- 12:24know, people would write to me, email me from all over the country
- 12:26side. I saw your book in the books in Barnes and Noble in whatever
- 12:31city, Dallas, Seattle, you know, La. I mean it was
- 12:37It's great to have a mainstream publisher to get your book out there like that.
- 12:39So yes, it's great. And I'm working on something else, which
- 12:43is a sort of continuation of that. Now, what inspired making contact?
- 12:48And please share with our listeners some of the amazing contributors that you have in
- 12:52that offering. Well, what inspired it was? I actually had an experience
- 12:56and I can write about this in the book. The book is a collection
- 13:03of people I feel are the top investigators in the UFO research and experiences,
- 13:09and I just wanted, you know, I met this publisher and I said,
- 13:15well, I want to do a UFO book, and they said,
- 13:16well, we don't really do that, but we'll try something. This is
- 13:20Saint Martins Press McMillan, it's the parent company. I think they probably have
- 13:24published things in the past about this, but this was new. And I
- 13:28had one idea and he said, well, why don't you put together a
- 13:31compilation? Because after my UFO experience in nineteen eighty seven, I got sucked
- 13:37down the rabbit hole. As I say, I went to every conference,
- 13:41and if you go to every conference, you're a bound to meet the people,
- 13:45and you go to lunch with them, you go to dinner, you
- 13:46become friends. So I wanted to put together a compilation that told the complete
- 13:56picture of the UFO phenomena, because really, really nobody knows what's going on.
- 14:01No one has the whole truth, Like I said about reality, everyone
- 14:05has pieces of the truth. So this guy, Nick Pope, I'm sure
- 14:09you've heard of him. He actually lives in New York now he just moved.
- 14:13I just had lunch with him. Oh anyway, he used to work
- 14:15for the Ministry of Defense and he's still pretty much sworn to some secrecy.
- 14:20Is the UK Ministry of Defense. But he's living here and he presents the
- 14:26argument that it's okay for governments to cover up the secrets of this some found
- 14:33technology. I still understand why he feels like, you know, you don't
- 14:39want to give away these secrets to the enemy and all that. But that
- 14:43was Nick who starts off the compilation, and he starts off by saying every
- 14:50book has to have a villain, and he says he's the villain of this
- 14:54book because he's saying it's okay to keep secrets and everyone else what else is
- 15:00saying in that book? No, what's really going on here? But anyway,
- 15:05Nick gives us a really good perspective. And then I have Grand Cameron
- 15:07writing the second chapter, who says, if you've seen a UFO, you
- 15:13are part of the phenomena. There are no innocent bystanders in the UFO field.
- 15:20So you know, I sometimes I'm in front of an audience, I
- 15:24say how many people have seen a UFO? I say three quarters of the
- 15:26people raise their hand. Well, that's usually in a UFO audience I'm talking
- 15:31to. But still, this is a worldwide phenomena. It's fascinating, and
- 15:37I have a people like Linda Moulton Howe who's researched this, and she doesn't
- 15:43understand. She has pieces, probably more pieces than anyone else. She says,
- 15:46this is like a hole of mirrors on a quicksand moving floor where everything's
- 15:50changing all the time. So there's such mystery going on here. We're getting
- 15:56a little bit of truth from the government. We can talk about that later.
- 16:00So Linda contributed Whitley Strieber, who's probably the most lucid contactee I've ever
- 16:07met, and he's written probably the best books on the subject of alien contact.
- 16:12I mean, even when I say alien contact, that that is such
- 16:17a science fiction word. How can there be alien contact in a world that
- 16:22totally denies that reality? This is what we're dealing with. We're dealing with
- 16:27like a cognitive dissonance situation here, and because there's nothing in the mainstream that
- 16:36confirms what my population, my group, my colleagues are referring to. So
- 16:42we're really at odds in a kind of paradigm loos here with each other.
- 16:48And of course John mack is in the book. He has a he's no
- 16:52longer with us, but he had an unpublished essay he was sure you know
- 16:56who he was. He was the head of the Harvardsiechology psychiatry department. He
- 17:02was a doctor of psychiatry, and he came across people who had these contact
- 17:07abduction experiences and he looked at them, and he sat with him and he
- 17:11said, these people are not crazy. These people are communicating a genuine experience
- 17:18to their reality. It wasn't his reality, but he realized these people weren't
- 17:25fantasizing, they weren't fabricating or confabulating. They were talking about what they felt
- 17:33happened to them. And this is not just a few people. After Whitley
- 17:37Streever published his book Communion, he got two hundred thousand letters from people around
- 17:44the world saying, yep, that happened to me. Similar things happened to
- 17:48me. So it's not a huge part of the population. But even if
- 17:52it's five percent or three percent of the US population, that's still what is
- 17:56that A couple of million, ten million, whatever, I guess that would
- 18:02be how many people in this country now? Anyway, it's several million people
- 18:07around the world, not just in this country, of course, it's a
- 18:11worldwide phenomena that are having experiences, and that is mind blowing. Still is
- 18:18mind blowing. It's still mind blowing for me that I had an experience that
- 18:22I can't explain. And so I got really people I really respected for their
- 18:29intelligence, their research, their enthusiasm, and I was going to say belief,
- 18:34but this is not about belief. This is about checking and confirming that
- 18:42it's a pattern of interaction. So it's you can have your contact and it
- 18:53will match what other people have in a very similar way. And that I
- 18:59found that fascinating. And it's also what kind of qualified this for people in
- 19:03the early beginnings of UFO research, like jay aalen Heinek, you said,
- 19:07these people are all having the same experience and they don't know each other and
- 19:11live in different parts of the country. Could it be true. I'm jury
- 19:15still out, but it looks like it is true. You had mentioned Whitley.
- 19:18Several years ago, I attended a conference sponsored by Fions the Friends of
- 19:23the Institute of Noetic Sciences here in New York, and Whitley and his late
- 19:27wife Anne were the keynote speakers. The following day, they had a private
- 19:32luncheon hosted by Emily Squires, who had been the director of Sesame Street.
- 19:36At that luncheon, Anne mentioned the thousands of letters that you mentioned that they
- 19:38had received after the publication of Communion and recalled that in many instances, experiences
- 19:45had a vision of a deceased relative, either just before or after the contact
- 19:51experience. Now this triggered, This triggered a memory back to nineteen sixty of
- 19:56my seeing my grandfather who had passed the evening before one of my experiences.
- 20:00Is this something else that you've come up with in your research and your studies.
- 20:04Absolutely, But first I want to say I'm the one who organized that
- 20:08BIONCE conference with Emily. Said Emily, we're looking for something to do.
- 20:12I said, Emily, I know everyone in the UFO world. I'll call
- 20:17Whitley, I'll call Richard Dolan, I'll call in de Montenhaw, we'll get
- 20:19them to New York. And I got total support by Emily Colburn was on
- 20:25the board there and just before Kirk Johnson was there. But yeah, me
- 20:29and Emily. But I said, we'll do three days and we'll do a
- 20:34dinner at your apartment for all the speakers and like you know, a guest
- 20:40fee for people want to join. And so thank you. You're one of
- 20:44the few that actually remembers that. But it was really I have pictures from
- 20:48that that, uh you know. Emily's husband was Lynn Belzer, Richard Bels's
- 20:52brother. Yes, and Richard was there. I have pictures of Richard and
- 20:57me and Whitley and Lend and there was a picture of Ingo's picture made painted
- 21:03by Ingo Swan and Emily, who I really miss Emily. She was a
- 21:07dear, dear friend and so brilliant and so supportive and so kind to me.
- 21:14Yeah, So anyway, at Len and Emily's house, it was a
- 21:17picture by Ingo Swan, who started remote doing but he was also experiencer too,
- 21:23and he painted this UFO picture in this very surreal manner. And anyway,
- 21:29it's just a great gathering. So getting back to your question is,
- 21:33yes, it seems like, and Whitley talks about this, that there are
- 21:37somehow a connection between people who have passed over and the ET reality, and
- 21:45this sort of a blurring of the fine lines between what we think these realities
- 21:52are. So I would say not everyone who has an ET experiences sees these
- 21:59beings have passed over, but some people seemed to. They seemed to be
- 22:03this doorway into these other realities. And you said, this is after your
- 22:11experience you saw a dead relative. Yes, yes, it was actually a
- 22:15very interesting story. The day before he passed away, I started seeing him.
- 22:19I was very close with him. He was a mystic himself, and
- 22:23he appeared to me and it smiled. But then he disappeared, and I
- 22:27told my mother and father that Grandpa was there, and they said, you're
- 22:30imagining things again. And then a short time later the phone call came with
- 22:34word of his passing. The very next night, I saw him again,
- 22:37and I had my contact experience also. So you had the contact experience the
- 22:41same night you saw your grandfather after I saw him the second time. Yes,
- 22:45absolutely, so it was a contact experience in that you were taking a
- 22:49board, your saw a ship or what was the contact experience well, here's
- 22:53I'll share this quick story with you. I didn't want to go into this
- 22:56today, but my first conscious remembered experience, it's in nineteen fifty eight,
- 23:00when I was five years old. I used to call this night school.
- 23:03I never considered this to be negative, an abduction or anything of that nature.
- 23:08I called it night school because I started coming back with information and knowledge
- 23:12that I had no other source for. And at five and six years old,
- 23:15when my friends were playing with toy soldiers and sporting things and toy trucks,
- 23:21I wanted to build radios. I wanted kits to build crystal radios.
- 23:23When I was five and six years old. Where did that come from?
- 23:26You know, That's what I'm saying. This is just all kinds of wonderful
- 23:29stuff, but you know, rudimentary electronics at five and six years old.
- 23:33But in any event, that was the first of my remembered experiences going aboard
- 23:37and having these classes basically and learning things and seeing things that I had no
- 23:41other source for. And then the thing with my grandfather happened when I was
- 23:45seven, and I had seen him before he actually just as he had passed,
- 23:49and then I saw him again during another contact experience and what these were
- 23:52for me as far as my recollection goes, is sitting in this beautiful,
- 23:56beautiful room and seeing displays on the wall. I guess I would call them
- 24:02probably the holographic displays of different things happening around the universe, and it was
- 24:07like a classroom and it was just something very special to me as a kid.
- 24:10Well, you know, many people talk about that, even Whitley Strieber
- 24:12is one of his books I think is called night School, and that does
- 24:17seem to be a phenomenon for many contactees, Like I don't think I had
- 24:22that, and I remember I think it was too hyperactive to do that,
- 24:26but many people did. Do you experience that kind of memory of learning and
- 24:33goes on plays that night? My friend James Carmen, he talks about this.
- 24:37He rde a movie called The Hidden Hand, But that is common Victor.
- 24:44So did we have a questions? And that's when I had the thing
- 24:48in school with the book when I was in first grade and the teacher said
- 24:52you have to bring the book back called you will go to the moon.
- 24:53And I said I can't bring it back. She said why, I said,
- 24:56because it's wrong. Well, you could still wort it that though I
- 25:00eventually did bring it back, my parts made me bring it back. But
- 25:03the thing is I said it was wrong because I had been there. But
- 25:06it's wrong. But you were very moral. That means as a child,
- 25:11but like false information up on the shelf. That's very interesting. Absolutely,
- 25:15absolutely. My guest is Alan Steinfeld. Alan, please tell our listeners whether
- 25:19you get your book, all about your New Realities programs and find out more
- 25:23about everything that you bring to our world. Well, first of all,
- 25:26I really appreciate you and your questions and your intelligence and your support in this
- 25:33very engaging phenomena. And that's what my book, Making Contact, Preparing for
- 25:38the New Realities of Extraterrestial Existence is all about. You can get it on
- 25:44Amazon. You probably getting your local Barnes and Noble. If it's not there,
- 25:48please ask for it because we want to sell as many of these as
- 25:52possible because it's a great overview of the phenomena. I mean, it's now
- 25:56in the news and we'll get to that in the next section of the show.
- 26:00But this is a reality that preparing for the New Realities means. Preparing
- 26:06means being aware. If you don't know something's going on you're you're ill prepared
- 26:14for the phenomena that seems to be increasing worldwide. So I inform people about
- 26:21many aspects of this phenomena, which is still unresolved. But there's for sure,
- 26:27I could say, absolutely for sure something going on. It's been kept
- 26:33from the people public by the government and knowing can explain it fully, so
- 26:38you can get that also. So I talked about this on my YouTube channel,
- 26:41which is YouTube dot com slash New Realities one word new realities that's more
- 26:48than one reality and you can email me at new Realities at earthlink dot nets.
- 26:52So I do have that theme going of new Realities everywhere because that's you
- 26:57know, I wanted to be remind minded of what my mission was by just
- 27:03using that name. We'll be back with more of Allan and New Realities after
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- 27:42Destination Unlimited. My wonderful guest this week, Alan Steinfeld. His thing is
- 27:48called New Realities. Alan. I had the pleasure of attending a class you
- 27:52offered in remote viewing in twenty twenty two. Please share with us a little
- 27:56of the history a remote viewing and those who brought this to the public's attention.
- 28:02Actually, you were very excellent in that class, Victor, and you
- 28:04added a whole other dimension when you said you were smelling things at the target,
- 28:11and that was like wow, you can. Of course, of course
- 28:14people here and they smell, but that you were unique and you had a
- 28:17gift for this. And so basically what it is, it's an awareness of
- 28:23non local consciousness. It means that we have the facility to somehow know everything
- 28:32about anything anytime. That's how I refer to it. It's like what consciousness
- 28:37is is being received by the hardware of your brain. But if you didn't
- 28:44know your computer had an Internet, you would think all the information you can
- 28:48ever have on your computer was something someone put there. Suddenly someone comes along
- 28:53and say, well, guess what, I have this software that lets me
- 28:57get information that's no go And if you didn't know anything about that, you'd
- 29:02say that person's crazy. And I say, no, there's information out there
- 29:07in the ethers that I'm picking up on my local computer and that information is
- 29:12non local. And before I guess two thousand something, but if your computers
- 29:19became really popular, we'd have no idea how that could make sense. And
- 29:25now we know that it does make sense. So having the ability to remote
- 29:30view means you just have access somehow and they don't know what that is to
- 29:36this awareness of existence beyond time and space. And I'll get into some of
- 29:44that. But it was started by, i would say, in competition to
- 29:51the Soviets, now the Russians. They were Soviets before nineteen eighty something.
- 29:57They had a psychic buying program. And the CIA said, well, the
- 30:03Russians have a psychic spying program and they're probably, you know, successful.
- 30:07We need to develop this, and some people approached the Stanford Research Institute and
- 30:14Russell Targ who taught me this skill, and how put Off, who was
- 30:18already working with some insiders and he was also a scientist to scientists, Two
- 30:23very legitimate scientists started this thing called remote viewing, and they hired before they
- 30:30called it that, they brought the psychic out, very famous psychic out to
- 30:36Stamford's Ingo Swan, and they tested him to see what was in the basement
- 30:41of that building. And he was able to describe the objects in the basement
- 30:45of the Stanford Research Institute. And they said to him, what are you
- 30:48doing? And he goes, I'm a remote doing And then the name stuck
- 30:52and now it's like you google remote doing that word that Ingo made up.
- 31:00Those words put together in the nineteen seventies, there's probably ten million or more
- 31:06websites that mention. You just google remote deeing, you'll get millions and millions
- 31:11of people who've made this a facility that or an application people can use.
- 31:21So when I teach it, I say, I say to people, actually,
- 31:26you can't teach it, but you can learn it because we already have
- 31:30this awareness. Sometimes we get glimpses of or flashes, Oh, you flashed
- 31:36on somebody and it's like you know, you see someone somewhere, you have
- 31:40a deja vu, or you or you just know something. It's because consciousness
- 31:48is not really localized to the body. It's a signal that's being received by
- 31:55the body. It's like a radio is another analogy. The radio is picking
- 31:59up up the signal from a broadcast center. But if the radio dies,
- 32:06it doesn't mean the signal has stopped sending, right, You just pick up
- 32:09a new radio pick up the signal. So we are these senders and receivers.
- 32:15That's the incredible facility of the brain to be zenders and receivers and pick
- 32:20up the essence of our awareness, which is actually not localized in the body,
- 32:27but it's probably everywhere, anytime, anywhere, any way you want to
- 32:32know it. So does that make sense? Absolutely? And actually science quantum
- 32:37physics has come up with the term quantum nonlocality, meaning that energy can exist
- 32:43simultaneously in multiple locations. Right, And so we actually exist simultaneously because we
- 32:50basically are energy and we exist. This body is your avatar. But if
- 32:57you have an avatar on a computer screen, you're not the avatar. You're
- 33:00the consciousness that's controlling the avatar, and that essence that we are is non
- 33:07local to that avatar that's on your computer screen. So it's sort of like
- 33:13that we sit basically and I usually illustrate this with this great picture by Alex
- 33:17Gray called feolog where we sit in this infinite field of forever and we're having
- 33:24this dream of this three D reality and thinking that we are that, but
- 33:31we're not. We are the great observer of all this reality. So it's
- 33:38like we're painting a painting and suddenly, as the painter, we jump into
- 33:42the painting and forgot that we're the painters. So what remote doing does,
- 33:45and it's so interesting the CIA connected people back to their divine nature. I
- 33:52always think that's sort of ironic, but this ability to have and perceive non
- 33:58locally is proven. It's absolutely proven, and it's a skill you can practice
- 34:05by setting your intention. And sometimes I do this if there's a live audience
- 34:09and I say, okay, what's in my pocket? What unusual shape is
- 34:14in my pocket? What is the thing? And you just let people set
- 34:17their intention and visions come to them. I describe it like you have your
- 34:22left brain, which is your local reality, your right brain, which is
- 34:25open to the flower forever. It's the receiver. So when people already not
- 34:30when remote viewing, they're not guessing, they're allowing the signal to be received
- 34:37by basically their right brain. This is also where creativity, intuition, telepathy
- 34:45comes in. It all comes into your right brain because that's the part of
- 34:49the mind that is open to new realities in a sense, to the realities
- 34:53beyond the local field. And there's one more thing I want to say.
- 34:58There's talked by Jill Bolti Taylor where she talks about being all right brain.
- 35:04She had lost a left brain and a stroke and she becomes a total right
- 35:08brain being and she talks about the phenomena of just being right brain. So
- 35:14we've been overtrained in left brain from the time we're five years old. We
- 35:20taught to count one, two, three and the ABC's there's nothing wrong with
- 35:23that, But we forgot this dual processor that we have of reality. So
- 35:30the idea is to be whole brain, left and right brain. But it's
- 35:34been so underdeveloped and underacknowledged the right brain that remote feeling is a great practice
- 35:39to develop your creativity or intuition, your psychic sense. That's a little Yeah.
- 35:45You mentioned being taught by Russell Target. What was your first experience with
- 35:49remote feeling. Actually, my first experience of remote feeling was not with Russell.
- 35:53It was at the ramp of school, and do you know about the
- 35:57ramp of school. It was a kind of mystery school, and we had
- 36:01an assignment to pick a partner and send them a sentence, and they have
- 36:08you send them a sentence. So there was this woman that we met and
- 36:14we were sitting across the room. We wrote down the sending sentence. I
- 36:17wrote down the receiving sentence. When we compared notes after we had sent each
- 36:24other the same sending the same sentence, I didn't get her sending experience.
- 36:31I got. We got the same sentence that we sent to each other,
- 36:36and we got the same sentence that we received from each other. That was
- 36:40very strange. So it's like who originated that? Did that come from the
- 36:45ether? I mean, there's still a lot of mystery because when I asked
- 36:47remote viewers, even Russell targ doesn't understand actually how it works, how the
- 36:54mind can pick up non local information, because if you're a mechanistic, westernize,
- 37:02very literal person, it doesn't make any sense. Recent experiments show that
- 37:07there's a part of the brain that actually can't act as a receiver outside the
- 37:13hypothalamus or the hippocampus. Sorry, the hippocampus and towards the lower cerebellum which
- 37:19seemed to be having an abnormality or a little more white matter. And they
- 37:22found that's much more increased in remote viewers and in UFO contactees. They seemed
- 37:30to have this facility. I'll show you that paper. In nineteen seventy five,
- 37:34I was stationed I was in the Air Force. I was stationed in
- 37:37Soul, Korea, and I would get messages from time to time. I
- 37:42don't know if you would specifically call this remote viewing, but i'd get remote
- 37:45information. And one morning I got a message that something was wrong with my
- 37:49mother back in New York, six thousand miles away. I had no communication,
- 37:52no letters, nothing from her that would indicate anything was wrong. And
- 37:57the voice said you must call her, and I did. And in those
- 38:00days we had extension telephones, you remember those extension telephones. And my mother
- 38:05and my sister picked up the phone simultaneously, and I said, Mom,
- 38:09is anything wrong? And my sister goes, oh my god, how did
- 38:13he find out? It turns out she was scheduled for major surgery the next
- 38:16day, and immediately I had the message to teller the surgery would be a
- 38:21complete success, she'd have a full recovery and everything would be fine. She
- 38:23needed to hear those words from me, and of course that's what transpired.
- 38:28I'm grateful for that experience, but I think that was probably my first conscious
- 38:31experience of remote vouns. That is Greg, You know, I'm realizing you
- 38:36are much more of a mystic than maybe you are willing to admit, because
- 38:42because these are great stories, you have not the stories. They are great
- 38:45experiences that show me the reality of everything I've been researching and trying to confirm
- 38:52for myself by doing my show and all that. But you your living proof
- 38:59that this is a real reality. And I think this reality exists for everyone
- 39:02if they are willing to open up that, as you say, the right
- 39:07side of the brain, that balance of consciousness. Yeah. I also want
- 39:10to say just opening up the right brain outside of the brain does not really
- 39:15explain where we're remote viewing from. Like how you could know beyond time and
- 39:22space that something was up with your mother and you trusted that you went,
- 39:28yeah, you received that, But where is that information? When someone's remote
- 39:31viewing a target, are they actually remote doing the actual physical target or are
- 39:37they remote view a kind of in platonic terms, in the Plato's you know,
- 39:45essence of form. Maybe they're remote viewing a place where all things exist
- 39:50all at once. This is the further research that I'm interested in doing.
- 39:55Right, is it possible for anyone to learn remote viewing? Absolute? The
- 40:00problem is not the problem, but the issue is anyone can learn to play
- 40:05the piano, but can you play it well? Some people have a natural
- 40:09facility for it, and some people they have a much harder time. They're
- 40:15not willing to let go. They have it. They're much more overdeveloped left
- 40:19brain, and they tend to analyze. You have to when you're remote.
- 40:22You have to trust what comes to you. And in my classes and maybe
- 40:27I did this in class you're in you have to then recognize the essence of
- 40:35receiving, and you probably naturally do that because you trust your intuition. But
- 40:40there's something about that because people are receiving all the time. We're born that
- 40:45way, and then of course it's educated out of us. But anyone absolutely
- 40:50can do remote viewing, and it's a skill to tap into your intuitive mind.
- 40:57So the more creative people, the more or aware people, the more
- 41:01sensitive people have a much easier time remote viewing. What are you offering?
- 41:07What is your next remote viewing training beginning? Well, I did just start
- 41:12one last week, but they can still come on late. You go to
- 41:15lightnet dot org. My friend Zinca. Have you ever met Zinca car have
- 41:20not known? Started making contact university. So we me and her five formulated
- 41:27different ways people can start to make contact. She has a course where she
- 41:31has these radios that they pick up signals et signals. Is that radio course.
- 41:38There's a channeling course and I run the remote viewing course for lightnet dot
- 41:44org where these different ways of making contact happen. So you can still get
- 41:50in. You can pick up the class on November twenty ninth and just sign
- 41:57up and you can see it's a six week course. You meet once a
- 42:00week online on zoom and people seem to really enjoy it. And the idea
- 42:07of this course, like the remote the only one started by Stanford Research Institute,
- 42:12was to spy on the Russians. Basically, this is to go off
- 42:15planet. When we can develop enough of a remote viewing skill to get a
- 42:22target that we can confirm, then we all go off planet together and we
- 42:25look for targets. That maybe we don't know what the actual answer is.
- 42:32But if we get enough people in agreement about what is going on, then
- 42:39maybe the target that we're looking at, we're looking at like another planet or
- 42:44another star system, which is what we do, or some UFO that had
- 42:47passed by. We show a picture and we've seen tune into that, then
- 42:52maybe that's the truth of what's going on. Because the skill is to fine
- 42:58tune your warenes, so you say, operate the analytical overlays of the logical
- 43:02mind from the signal that's coming through. And when you're trained enough, people
- 43:07seem to come to an agreement about the target. And if we get the
- 43:13class to come into a full agreement, then we really have a tool to
- 43:17look at other planetary civilizations. And that's where it gets really exciting. And
- 43:22the website again lightnet dot org. Is that correct? Lightnet dot org.
- 43:27Yes, And you can put slash all a la N and you can take
- 43:31the course there sign up. I do these courses probably every three months,
- 43:35so this one ends the end of December, but I'll probably start anohing one
- 43:39in March or April if you can't get into that, and we'll be back
- 43:43with more Bottlein Steinfeld after these words on the Old Times Radio network. Own
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- 44:09Times co creating a more conscious lifestyle. Back on Destination Unlimited. My wonderful
- 44:16guest this week, Alan Steinfeld. Alan, let's talk a little bit more
- 44:21about the UFO situation. There have been many meetings in Congress recently with these
- 44:25people who are coming forward, government employees who are coming forward and sharing their
- 44:32stories. How close do you think we truly are to worldwide disclosure? Well,
- 44:38first of all, we're much closer than we've ever been. The cover
- 44:45up seems to be uncovering. For seventy five years, the government would say,
- 44:52no, there's nothing going on, there's no craft, there's no ships
- 44:55out there. It's all crazy people. And now we're hearing a totally different
- 45:02tune saying there's a guy named David Grush who was intelligence officer who said no.
- 45:07People came to him and said, the government has crash retrieval of alien
- 45:15ships and bodies of aliens. He said this in front of Congress at a
- 45:21congressional hearing July twenty six, twenty twenty three, this year. That was
- 45:28shocking. That was a bombshell. There's no going back once that door opens,
- 45:32you can say nope. So what's happening now is that this guy Grush
- 45:39came forward because there were people inside the Pentagon, inside the military aspects of
- 45:46the government that we're keeping secrets from Congress. And this is illegal. This
- 45:54is a constitutional issue. Forget aliens, you cannot keep things from the legislative
- 46:02and executive branch. So there seems to be some people, a rogue element
- 46:08inside the military that have kept these secrets, these legacy secrets. They're calling
- 46:14that from the mainstream, from the president. Actually, the Air Force itself
- 46:17had a whole disinformation campaign to make people look ridiculous if they ever suspected or
- 46:24had their own sidings. So this is all coming out now and this Chuck
- 46:30Schumer, new York state Senator, has now put together something called a Schumer
- 46:36Amendment where he mentions non non human intelligences visiting this plan. He says,
- 46:45in this amendment, anyone who has any information about this, whether in the
- 46:51military or private industry, must come forward and share this with Congress. What
- 46:58do they know about this phenomena? So he mentioned non human intelligence in this
- 47:04amendment that is now up before Congress to be passed probably twenty times. So
- 47:10this is big. You get someone like Chuck Schumer, one of the Gang
- 47:14of Eight, as I say, which the Gang of eight are these top
- 47:17inside senators who are privy to the highest secrets of government, and he's saying,
- 47:24we need to come out. This is called the UAP Disclosure Act.
- 47:30It's actually disclosures in this Schumer Amendment. So this is a game changer.
- 47:37And we're right at the cusp of this. And of course it's already been
- 47:40acknowledced that the government has bodies. I mean, this guy Grush is saying
- 47:46what other people have said. And maybe he hasn't seen it firsthand, but
- 47:51he's an intelligence officer with twenty years in government, and he is blowing the
- 47:57whistle on what inside have long acknowledged and been threatened by other people in the
- 48:05military to keep secret. If you don't keep this secret, and then of
- 48:07course they sign an NDA with the government, you're going to be in a
- 48:12lot of trouble. So there's some very fishy, sort of weird stuff that's
- 48:19been going on, and it's been purposely kept secret, and now it's all
- 48:23being leaked out. It's no longer a leak. It's almost a flood of
- 48:28information that's coming out now. And we're in very exciting times because people like
- 48:32me and you probably who have suspected or even known that there's something out there,
- 48:38and other people would say, what, you're crazy, victor, Why
- 48:42do you even think something like that? Well, this is going to be
- 48:45victor for me and you, the biggest I told you so moments in history.
- 48:50Yeah. Absolutely. How do you think humanity will react? Are we
- 48:53ready? You know, I'm not saying it against you, but I'm sort
- 48:59of hired question because you know, we may not be ready. It's going
- 49:05to be a root awakening for some people. I mean, I think people
- 49:07like you and me are ready. So when you say humanity, I think
- 49:14I think there's a lot of horse and buggy thinking. I call it like
- 49:16when you know the automobile came along, I said I'm not giving up my
- 49:22horse and carriage to ride in a smelly machine that you have to fill up
- 49:28with gas. And it was just this is a seed change, a paradigm
- 49:32shift, like it's a new way of thinking about reality itself. So we've
- 49:38had these route awakenings in the past, I mean good and bad. When
- 49:45you know, the Europeans found out there was a whole new continent, I
- 49:49mean that was kind of exciting and put a new perspective when when they found
- 49:52out the Europeans again, because we're basically a European centered culture of origins,
- 50:00I mean, when we found out that the Earth wasn't the center of the
- 50:02universe, the Church had a hard time with that, and it kind of
- 50:08freed people like Galileo to explore a vast universe that was beyond the scope of
- 50:17an old way of thinking. So there's going to be reaction, There's going
- 50:23to be people wanting to hold on. But I'm excited because talk about new
- 50:29realities, Victor, this is the ultimate is this is what me and you
- 50:34have been waiting for, and it is going to be changing everything. It's
- 50:39going to change our history, our biology. I mean, just think of
- 50:44the technology Obviously whatever's here is not filling up their gas tanks to get here.
- 50:50Right, Just think of what it means for human civilization to have free
- 50:54energy, that is that everyone's disposable disposal that can fuel your house, run
- 51:04your house. We cultivate the deserts, desalinate the oceans for a little bit
- 51:08anyway, and let people live in abundance. This is what's possible instead of
- 51:15the one percent A lot of it's oil fossil fuel company money no longer has
- 51:22a stranglehold on human civilization. It also cleans up the planet a little bit.
- 51:27If this is because it's been denied by people who don't want the secret
- 51:34to get out, who've probably been paid off by fossil fuel industries to keep
- 51:37that secret, which I call a crime against humanity. They've deprived human beings
- 51:45of their true heritage, of what, you know, what we're really entitled
- 51:49to. It's like it's like Edison being paid off by some candle maker to
- 51:54say, no, don't tell people about electric light, because then all these
- 52:00handle gas lights will be out of business. We're in and look what the
- 52:04electric light did for civilization. We're in a similar case where if we're not
- 52:10enslaved to energy companies and to working for energy, which is what people really
- 52:16do. They have a job to run their house, to run their refrigerator,
- 52:21to do. Then this freeze humanity for the purpose we really incarnated here
- 52:28for. And you know what that purpose is. According to me, that
- 52:32purpose is to create, to make known the unknown, to go out into
- 52:38the world and bring new sensitivities into the awareness of the collective. That's each
- 52:46of our destiny. It's what you're doing with this radio show. This is
- 52:51what I'm trying to do with New Reality. We're trying to bring a greater
- 52:53awareness and why so we can have more experiences, so we can get out
- 52:59of the rot of the same ordinary realities we've been living in, to know
- 53:07the magic of what this planet and who we are really is capable of,
- 53:13and will we become better human beings in the process. Well, if you're
- 53:17not enslaved and working for survival, and you're here to really enjoy the gifts
- 53:24of incarnation the planet, that will make people happier. I mean, you
- 53:30won't have to Why would you steal from someone else if you could have access
- 53:35to the same thing. I mean, if there was abundance for everyone.
- 53:38I think would not only make people better human beings, there's also an act
- 53:44of giving back, giving to each other is like, if you have enough,
- 53:49don't it's a natural inclination to give to someone else. And there might
- 53:53be that kind of way of being with each other that will be the change.
- 54:01And so what's been held back for seventy five years is human evolution and
- 54:08its utmost most serene, superb way. That's what we've been suffering from because
- 54:15the lies we've been told by our government, by our military, by the
- 54:21people in charge. No, no, no, and purposely ridiculed for this.
- 54:25So this is a moment in history. This is how big this moment
- 54:30is. Absolutely my guest, Alan Steinfeld, Alan, please share with our
- 54:36listeners one more time where they can find out more about you and your work
- 54:39and also about the remote viewing classes. Right, I just want to say,
- 54:44so look for the news as it comes out with this guy Grussian others
- 54:46from deep inside the military are revealing secrets. This is the truth. This
- 54:52is a truth, but this is pushing propelling our society forward. So I
- 54:58write about this on my or interview people about this on my New Realities YouTube
- 55:02channel that's YouTube dot com slash New Realities. You can get my book which
- 55:07is called Making Contact The New Realities of Extraterresco's Existence at Barnes and Noble on
- 55:14Amazon. You can email me at New Realities at earthlink dot net. And
- 55:17my remote viewing class has started one week, but we start the second week
- 55:22and look at the archives for the first week at light net dot org,
- 55:27or you can pick up the class. You can send me an email New
- 55:30Realities at earthlink dot net. Say you want to sign up for the next
- 55:32remote viewing and learn that you absolutely are a non local being and your consciousness
- 55:39is infinite. That's what you learn in these courses. That's the miracle of
- 55:45who you are listening right there. Your infinite mind and remote feeling gives us
- 55:51an opportunity to prove that, not just talk about you prove that for yourself.
- 55:55That's the miracle. So I'm happy. If anyone from this program is
- 56:00name wants to sign up, you go to lightnk dot org or look me
- 56:05up at or send an email to me at New Realities at earthlink dot net.
- 56:08And Victor always very fantastic to talk to you and thank you for joining
- 56:15us on destination Unlimited. I'm Victor, the voice Firman. Have a wonderful week.