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The Great Muppet Fandom Panel - Spring, 2023 Edition · Muppet Fan Podcasts with ToughPigs.com

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  Many years ago, tough pigs.com be got a great tradition of
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  arguing about the Muppets on the internet now.
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  Tough pigs has assembled a team of Muppet experts from all over
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  the world for a summit on the state of the Muppets.
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  This is a great Everybody talk loud, everybody.
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  Talk loud. Everybody talk soft.
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  Everybody talk soft. Thank you.
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  Hello. Welcome to the spring 2023
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  edition of the great Muppet fandom panel from tough
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  pics.com. This is a panel discussion show,
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  during which you'll hear highlights from the Henson
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  headlines, discussed by a panel of Muppet nerds.
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  It's sort of like a quarterly report on the state of our Fuzzy
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  Friends at Muppet studio, Henson Co and Sesame Workshop, except
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  the real quarterly reports at Sesame Workshop.
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  Right now, presumably involve a lot more hair pulling and
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  profane screaming. We've got time to catch up
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  though. We might have just the same
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  amount of that. Anyhow, each of our panelists
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  has brought a discussion question.
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  For us, which could be about anything related to Jim Henson
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  or the Muppets. But we expect our main topics.
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  This time will be Sesame Street commercials, Disney's creative
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  Muppet promotions. And the recent success of the
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  Jim Henson Company by which I, of course, mean, the release of
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  Billy bunny, for all this and more will be talking with the
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  hosts of Muppet fans, talking not the show.
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  I used to host of the same name, nor any of the podcasts with
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  that name on YouTube. Now, I'm talking about the one
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  hosted by marry Maria and Sprout, which stands out because
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  it's hosted by those people instead of other Let's introduce
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  the panelists. First up Muppet fans, talking
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  co-host and good friend of mine. C is for cookie.
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  That's good enough for sprouting.
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  Hi, it's me Sprout monster. Okay, how's it going?
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  Hi, welcome to the show. I saw an opportunity I was so
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  not expecting that next their co-host and partner a tough pigs
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  contributor although I might like it for one afternoon.
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  I don't want to live Yvonne Maria.
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  Please don't live in Lyon, very tiny and I will die.
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  If you, you know, try. I said, I don't want to.
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  I just said, I don't want it for an afternoon.
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  Are you here anyway? Okay.
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  Fine. And finally, some have called
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  her the queen of Muppets Twitter.
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  But she insists. She's just the HR department, a
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  gift from my mother, the day I was born.
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  I love it because it's Mary. Hello, and I'm JD Hansel, thank
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  you, thank you. Listeners might not know this,
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  but we all became friends over Twitter.
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  The most Dependable, social media platform.
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  We've been Pals for almost a couple of years now, and I'm so
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  used to chatting with you all and Richard and be on Twitter,
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  but I feel like it's been a minute.
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  Since we all really talked, how have you all been, what's new
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  with you? And is there more Muppet fans
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  talking coming in the future? I have been busy as a Bee.
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  I've never stopped doing anything.
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  You've been busy as our friend, be your name is Mary.
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  I'm busy as our friend, be you. I know her.
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  That's true. Everybody knows.
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  And everyone listening will absolutely know who were talking
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  about when we say be. There would be no ambiguity.
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  There will be no complications with any of our personal
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  conversations from Twitter bleeding into this podcast.
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  I do for the larger, tough pigs audience.
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  It'll be fun. Don't know who be is.
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  That's your fault. If you don't know who he is,
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  then you should follow be. If you didn't know who be is,
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  you need to watch more Sesame Street, if you don't know who he
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  is, you Be listening to some more Muppet fans talking.
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  Yeah. So what is Muppet?
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  Fans talking a podcast. Oh, great.
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  Thank you. Well, that's all I needed to
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  know. That's the end of our show.
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  I guess we answered the question.
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  I-i'm doing I'm doing got engaged.
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  That's wild. Mmm, oh really?
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  Yeah, umm, I don't know. I don't know if they're here.
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  Are they here? Hello.
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  Maria. Did you lose your fiance?
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  It happens. They're so small holla.
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  Oh, Marco. It's me.
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  This is my lovely partner. Sprout.
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  Hi. And the three of us run Muppet
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  fans talking which we haven't done in a year.
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  Has it been that long? It will be a year in April.
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  I haven't recorded in over a year.
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  Oh, wow. But mother fans talking stopped
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  right in April because that's when a bunch of shrimp went down
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  for all of us, personal things popped up at the time that.
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  Yeah. You needed.
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  Our utmost attention at that point.
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  Okay, did it have to do with Richard ruining everything?
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  As usual it's actually all Richards fault.
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  Okay, yeah, Richard is the reason my dad died.
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  Well, that we already knew it was Richard.
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  And he will do it again. You know, people say like your
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  dad's, Richard will kill them. The podcast over again?
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  This is horrible. Yeah, it's pretty terrible, but
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  I'm thinking I'm gonna use all of it.
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  Yeah. Okay.
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  So that's what mother fans talking is.
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  It's a horrible podcast that we use because we love it and we're
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  all friends. AIDS.
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  And it's this. It's what you're hearing is this
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  but more and very gay. Yes, true.
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  This is a tangent. Did I tell you guys?
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  What my dad said? When I came out to him.
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  No. See, I don't know.
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  He had this very weird dry sense of humor.
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  So, I don't know if he was joking or not.
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  I came out to him when we were in Disney World and I said, Dad,
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  I'm gay. I like women.
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  And we were walking towards the castle, and he stopped.
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  And he turned to me, and he said, This is no longer the
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  happiest place on Earth and he kept walking.
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  Oh no. Well, I don't I think it was a
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  joke. I mean he had a gay brother that
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  he loved dearly. I don't know if it was still a
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  gel, sorry if he was serious, but it kills me and I love to
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  tell the tale. We don't know if it's hey, I
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  don't know if it's like a super makeup.
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  Hell level of like so homophobic.
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  It's funny. Yes, it is.
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  It is the supernatural version of.
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  Wow, it's so bad, it's good. Okay.
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  Okay, I need the one joke image of John shaking Garfield with Ru
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  J or source. Okay is not know what he's
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  gotten himself into. I knew what I was getting myself
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  into I just I did. I know I've listened to your
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  show before, okay, but the thing is, he thinks that this is a
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  muppet fandom panel podcast know this is a backdoor Muppet fans
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  talking episode where stealing your show your soft launching,
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  the Muppet fans talking return. You're stealing a second pod
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  Cast of mine. Yes, our universe gonna steal
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  it. We're gonna steal more podcasts
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  like Richard kills dad's, we're gonna steal everything you own.
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  Well, here's the deal though. If you steal all my stuff, then
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  you also get all of the characters from my old
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  commercials, from Muppet fans talking.
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  So you are going to have to deal with Thomas and Ethan.
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  You may not like Thomason Ethan. Yes I'm getting free.
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  IP o-- you. It sounds like A blessing, but
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  it is actually a curse. I don't, I think you're going to
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  have a hard time knowing what to do with Thomas anythin.
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  I think they mean well, but there are a couple of very
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  confusing Brits. Okay, can we lock them in a room
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  somewhere? They already are locked in a
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  room somewhere. It is now time for the great
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  Muppet. Question panelists.
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  Are you ready? Yes, great.
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  This episode's, great Muppet. Question is, if you could pick
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  any episode of Fraggle Rock, keep one human and replace the
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  rest of the cast with Muppets. Who Would You cast in what
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  parts? Okay, I am thinking like, the
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  average Twitter user that has no fucking idea what anything
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  Muppets is. They saw Muppets once, when they
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  were five and they're like, I know the Muppets, they don't
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  know the Muppets. I think they do so, you know,
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  the episode where Uncle traveling, Matt is on the roller
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  coaster. And Dave goals, has that great
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  story of him being on a roller coaster for like 7 hours.
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  Yes. Instead of Uncle traveling,
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  Matt, your lease, it with Christopher Lloyd 1980s,
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  Christopher Lloyd Wright right off the back of Back to the
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  Future, Christopher Lloyd, that's our uncle traveling Matt.
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  And then, you know, you do the average, you know, Twitter
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  things like Mercury. Maya is global and he is red and
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  fawzi is wimbley and cars, always were and just a smoky and
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  sweet is is is Junior cord and I know so much about them up a
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  song. So smart.
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  That's my idea, that was a very good impression of be.
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  Mary, I wanted to just ask you, if you could pick any episode of
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  Fraggle Rock, keep on human, and replace the rest of the cast
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  with Muppets. Who Would You cast in what
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  parts? I would do.
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  The episode. I don't care which is the one
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  with boober and his blanket where he accidentally kills
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  Wembley for a few minutes. Yep.
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  Yep. Yeah.
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  I watched it recently. He for a few minutes there.
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  He kills Wembley. And then when we just comes back
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  to life. Yeah.
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  Yeah. My one human would be a Robert
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  Capa friend. He would play Wembley and if you
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  don't know who Robert CAPA, Is he played Raleigh in the Diary
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  of a Wimpy Kid movies. I'm reference for people younger
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  than me but go on and then I would have buried the played by
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  Miss Piggy. I would have double blade bygone
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  so I would have Mochi. Be played by Sam the eagle and I
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  would have read Blade, III Zoot and then I would have the trash
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  eat. Made by sweetums and following
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  gun, would re respectively paid by partner knee.
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  Hmm. Not Statler and Waldorf no, Bert
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  and Ernie. She's made up her mind Maria.
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  Okay. I'm sorry I just wanted to ask
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  and then doc would be played by a pop since rocket would be big
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  mean. Carl good.
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  That's very good. Thank you good.
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  A little too obvious, but I appreciate it sometimes there's
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  just a right answer. Sometimes, the best answer is
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  right in front of you. It's true.
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  It's true Sprout. So I thought the Org, who would
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  be king would be a fun one to do.
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  Okay, solely. Because I want SOG to be junior
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  gorg so I could see a hand puppet version of fog.
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  Oh, all right, that's it. I'm picturing it.
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  I'm picturing it and now I'm glad that I never have to
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  picture it again. I also had fun with Padma gorg
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  Pas gorg is Tama Nella grinder fall and MOG work is sweetums.
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  Okay I like it. We all know how Fraggle Rock
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  loves to use special effects. So for this, I really want to
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  put it to the test in our human is none.
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  Other Danny DeVito as Wembley fraggle?
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  Yes, yes. Yes, question.
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  The Danny DeVito, is it Danny DeVito from like, always, sunny
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  are where are we getting like tax?
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  80cm DeVito. We are exiting data, okay?
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  Now I will just If it had been, it's always sunny, Danny DeVito.
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  Then that episode, when Billy and the Egg would make a heck of
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  a lot of things throwing that out there.
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  So after this, I just started having fun and making a little
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  bit of random choices. Mochi is the Swedish, Chef red
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  is Miss Piggy. Gobo was scooter.
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  The Gopher boober is Sam the Eagle.
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  The background fraggles for our fun musical.
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  Bit are the Electric Mayhem. Of course, cotterpin doozer is
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  robbing the Fog and then for our trash Heap, saying Marjorie is
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  played by Rolf, one of the most philosophical Muppets and Philo
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  and gunge are Statler and Waldorf, because of all the
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  jokes they crack in this episode, we have the same brain
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  and with that. It's about time for me to get to
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  the news. But before I do, I'd like to
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  remind everyone that we're not covering all the Muppet news on
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  this show, this isn't a weekly updates show so if you're
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  looking for that listen to another podcast.
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  However, if you'd like to stay up to date on everything
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  happening in the mobile world, as it's happening, you've got to
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  follow tough pigs.com where Social networks are sold, you
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  really don't have a lot of better options and if you get
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  your news from the scuffs, on your shoes, then that won't help
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  at all. Jim Henson said that, it's time
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  for news. Let's start with Sesame Street
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  in early. January of this year.
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  The magazine Elle not like the letter, but spelled ele had Bert
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  and Ernie stop by to play a game of song.
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  Association for a fun video on YouTube.
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  Basically, they're given a word prompt and then they have 10
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  seconds to start singing a song. I'm with that word in the lyrics
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  panelists. Have you seen it?
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  And what did you think? Yes, yes I've seen it and I
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  loved it. I thought it was the greatest
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  piece of Cinema made in quite a long time.
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  I had to so many times. I remember I was having a really
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  crappy day that day and then I watched that video and I don't
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  even remember what I was upset about.
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  Yeah, it was weirdly a pick-me-up for me too and it was
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  one of those odd things where for once I saw a Sesame Street
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  thing and I wanted to show it to other people like I made my
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  Brother watch it, exactly. It's just, it's, it's good.
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  It's a Sesame Street, really 2023 and it's good.
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  It's fun. It's a burden.
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  Ernie thing in 2023. That's funny and it shocks me a
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  genuine Burton or anything where you and they let the I mean they
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  let Peter and Eric play and I love just watching Peter and
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  Derek play. I watched it again right before
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  we did this because I watched it a few times when it came out,
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  but I was like, I want to have my thoughts.
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  It's written down. So I do have some things if you
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  don't mind Hayes. Yeah.
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  Okay. Um, I'm obsessed with how Burt
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  said will sing or rap if you're so moved.
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  I love how he said that. Just if you're so moved, Bernie
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  trying to do a Randy Newman impression is just very good and
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  I really want to know what face Peter lens is pulling to make
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  that voice cuz you've you know he's making a weird face trying
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  to do that voice of course. Don't poke me Burt has said that
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  many times and every time it gets a laugh Army bird singing
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  while thing also reminded me of oh yeah.
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  Group with me baby is very Out Of Tune.
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  It reminded me of the Kermit cover of wild thing.
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  Oh yes, I'm Kermit on page. You Make My Heart Sing it's
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  terrible. They're harmonizing on dream was
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  beautiful anyway. Sprout and I are very Bert and
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  Ernie coated. So if you want to make fan art
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  of us, we are them basically, I would just love to bring up the
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  The fact that I finally got already singing, Simon and
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  Garfunkel? Yes this is all I've ever wanted
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  life and I didn't even know I needed it.
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  We had a whole Simon and Garfunkel Simon.
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  Who are focal the last time?
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  I drove around town. It was fun.
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  It was nice. It was gay.
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  Go to replace JD will do. Okay?
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  Okay. So Sesame Street, characters
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  have been popping up in a bunch of commercials lately.
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  Cookie Monster was one of several celebrities to appear in
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  a promo for the big game in February on Fox Sports.
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  The count was lectured about NerdWallet for some reason and
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  United Airlines released a series of commercials featuring
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  Oscar, the Grouch as their new chief.
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  Arash officer to promote their efforts to turn trash into fuel
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  for airplanes. What did you all think of seeing
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  our Sesame friends in these commercial spots?
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  So it shouldn't feel weird, because even especially with
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  Cookie Monster, Muppets were originally Starry in
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  commercials, because that was the best they could get.
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  And he had it is very strange. Hmm.
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  And I think it's because we've had 50 plus years of these
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  characters being characters on Sesame Street away from
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  commercials. And so to bring them out of the
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  Eat and not into our world into the world of commercialism feel
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  slimy and gross and bad. And also as soon as I saw Cookie
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  Monster in that big game hop-up add, I didn't want to see any
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  other actor. I was like, well he's here, do
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  something with him but he's just he's you're doing nothing.
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  I'm tired. Go to bed.
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  Mmm. Yeah, he's there for the sake of
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  being here. My eyes, how it was Was man
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  Sesame, Street, really Sesame, Workshop really needs money,
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  right? That well, that's what it all
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  screams, but here's the other side of it like this means we
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  actually get to see Sesame Street characters in things that
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  are geared towards adults. And so they're actually trying a
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  little bit to be funny and entertaining, almost sort of
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  kinda, but in a weird way. And I do like that they are in
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  physical sets because and this is, you know, no fault of their
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  own. But because of covid so much has
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  become, you know, blue screen with obsessed.
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  Lately. Yeah, and I don't fault them for
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  that. But also I am a big lover of
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  physical sets me too and so to see them in physical sets, feels
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  great. I even though it's like, I don't
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  want to see the count doing all of this because it feels so bad.
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  When I like that, he's in a physical place.
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  I did hate how he walked out of the bus, he looked so tall.
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  Did anyone else feel like you look so tall when he was walking
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  out of the bus? Maria, some girl, just like
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  that. What are you?
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  She's talking about. How the count is hot.
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  Okay? Is that, was it just me?
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  That it felt so weird, though, the count looked too tall
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  getting out of the bus, something about the count was
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  off. It all felt weird the way that
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  he walked felt strange. Yes.
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  Maybe it's the way he walked. Why are you sipping over the
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  count? For comedic purposes.
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  If you joke about something long enough it no longer becomes a
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  joke. Mary, I'm warning you, I'm okay
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  with that. I'm okay, joking the game you
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  joke for real. So I guess I I like seeing the
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  Sesame Street characters trying to do funny things for adults.
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  And I'm relieved that these commercials have all been
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  pitched at adults. Like it's not children's
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  products, which would feel weird To have the Sesame Street
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  characters doing that. I mean, they're already like
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  their faces already put on juice boxes and things, but you know
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  what I mean? It would feel weird for a Sesame
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  Street character, like big bird or whoever to say, hey kids, you
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  should buy this, it's really good.
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  That would feel deeply wrong and also it is someone else doing
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  the pitching in each case, it is not the Sesame Street characters
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  saying, we like this product, if that makes sense.
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  Yeah, I can, I can I get a hot take for a minute, that's what
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  the shows for by all means. All right, I did Mind the door
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  Dash commercial for the Super Bowl.
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  The Sesame Street did a few years ago, I do not mind it.
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  I thought it was a very well-executed commercial area,
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  stop looking at me like that. I didn't say anything.
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  You know, you're doing anyways. I didn't mind it.
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  I thought it's a well-executed commercial.
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  I think it showed the world very nicely.
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  It was geared towards adults, but so it didn't feel
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  manipulative like kind of what JD it was me.
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  Mentioning and I didn't mind it. I think the volume of the
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  commercials were getting now is where it's like, oh, I've
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  concerned for Sesame Workshop. That's kind of where I'm at
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  right now, but I also majored in marketing, so who knows?
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  It's just the count one that really skeeves me out because
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  he's like me, yeah, gas prices are going up.
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  That's great. It's like, oh yeah.
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  That's great. That's fantastic.
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  Which was funny. It was funny.
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  Well, in funny now was it Is it is it funny for people like me
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  with no money? Well, But that's the joke.
• 21:29
  The joke is that the count doesn't understand that your
• 21:31
  suffering is it? Yes, it is lives in a castle.
• 21:36
  On a mountain, he does not know what the average Poor Joe was
• 21:39
  going through. Are you saying that he's the one
• 21:42
  percent he is and I think he should be the only one who's
• 21:46
  allowed to be in it. The Sesame Street muppets were
• 21:49
  just featured in another interesting place Sesame Street
• 21:53
  night on The Masked Singer. We didn't have time to watch all
• 21:56
  of it tonight. Since its During the night that
• 21:58
  we're recording this, we always seem to have scheduling
• 22:01
  conflicts on this podcast, whatever they do a muppet thing
• 22:03
  on the mask singer. And I'm always a little bit
• 22:05
  relieved because I don't want to have to deal with all that, but
• 22:08
  we did watch a minute of it before we recorded this.
• 22:11
  So my gosh. Was it auto-tuned?
• 22:15
  What it was so auto-tuned. So just like BTS, I've only seen
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  Karma and obviously I only saw Kermit section because you think
• 22:24
  I'm going to watch The Masked Singer.
• 22:26
  No, right. Right.
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  Okay. Mary Mary, do you watch the
• 22:31
  match went through a really rough time during covid.
• 22:35
  As we all did the night requirement was revealed as a
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  contestant on the messaging or was the last night?
• 22:40
  I watched The Masked Singer because all I could think was
• 22:42
  it's not going to get better than this but they just had Dick
• 22:46
  Van Dyke. They did just have to Van Dyke
• 22:48
  and I love that, man. He's he is my one and forever
• 22:52
  for eternity and at some point I very much hope that on this
• 22:57
  Podcast, I will be able to suddenly surprise people with
• 23:02
  someone that they weren't expecting to see, but only time
• 23:05
  will tell Sprout. Have you seen the mask singer?
• 23:08
  I have seen the Kermit clip and I have seen the clip from
• 23:11
  Sesame. Street's episode.
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  Like woman jump-scare. Hello Beastie, that's my bestie
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  surprise. I'm here.
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  Hello welcome baby. I I for the listeners at home, I
• 23:40
  thought it would be fun to surprise the Muppet fans talking
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  gang with their friend. Our friend from Twitter and from
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  elsewhere and for many Muppet fans, talking appearances.
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  knows. I'm one of the founders.
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  going to be released just so you all know none of the videos
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  going. Yeah, that's right.
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  Private just naughty. I look horrifying say same as I
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  just had to I just had to deal with like a bunch of six
• 24:25
  teenagers and they were making fun of me the whole time.
• 24:28
  Well, that's not nice. We would never do that to you
• 24:30
  for our final item in Sesame Street news.
• 24:33
  Variety reported on March 13th, at Sesame Street, is now doing
• 24:36
  an FTS at tough pigs. We've been pretty vocal about
• 24:40
  not feeling great about this, but some of us are more bothered
• 24:45
  than others as Louis pointed out in our in episode 2 of The Great
• 24:51
  Muppet fandom panel. They don't all have the worst
• 24:54
  environmental impact but these images That are for trading are
• 24:59
  not the most interesting use of the technology.
• 25:01
  They're not necessarily worth the impact they have and were
• 25:05
  generally, not sure who these Fraggle Rock Labyrinth and now
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  Sesame NF to use our even for so Sesame Street.
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  N FTS, do we, are we going to get them?
• 25:16
  Do we like them? All I'm gonna say is nft stands
• 25:19
  for? No frickin.
• 25:20
  Thanks, we've been saying fuck. You can say fuck if you want to.
• 25:25
  Yeah, I just felt it was little at that photo.
• 25:27
  For Sesame Street has, yeah on Sesame Street, they're always
• 25:30
  saying freaking every episode just to be on the safe side to
• 25:35
  keep it G rated. It's always like everybody.
• 25:38
  So freaking happy. See you?
• 25:42
  And if she's literally literally had they were using so much like
• 25:47
  resources that many schools didn't have heat for the winter
• 25:51
  Sesame Street, just shouldn't be like a part of that.
• 25:55
  The way I see it. The only nft is I care for or
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  some nice hook. I'll tell you something right
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  now. Mary, that is not going to make
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  it into the Final Cut, but I appreciate it very much.
• 26:09
  No but it did make you smile it isn't.
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  If this was Mother fans talking it would go and Muppets Phantom.
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  I know, I know this is what will never be on topics.
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  They won't allow us we're to wee volger for them.
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  I mean you've been you've been in the pocket of the media Elite
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  Jay-Z. Oh no, where's the people cry
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  now? I have a question.
• 26:38
  Yes. Would it be allowed if she had
• 26:39
  said nice frickin time? Yeah, sure it's not.
• 26:46
  It's gonna get caught either way.
• 26:50
  Okay. Well friends, you've given us a
• 26:53
  lot to think about but it's time for a commercial break.
• 26:56
  We'll be right back with more Muppet talk right after this.
• 27:02
  Ruling Thomas, erlewine Ethan, but with Thomas anythin of
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  Thomasson Ethan's voice is a British person.
• 27:07
  So a couple of impression it's from England with one Mission,
• 27:09
  providing Great British voices, that's our business.
• 27:12
  If you need a voice that sounds like a British person, we can
• 27:14
  provide that voice. We can sound like lots of
• 27:16
  different British people, don't believe us, he is John Cleese
• 27:18
  William. John Cleese.
• 27:19
  They can sound like lots of different British people just
• 27:21
  getting that wasn't John Cleese. It was Ethan.
• 27:23
  Guess it was, but don't take our word for it.
• 27:24
  Here's Elton John my um, Elton John.
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  That wasn't John Cleese was Ethan, building.
• 27:28
  John is another one of the voices.
• 27:29
  We like To do these pretty groovy.
• 27:30
  You see groovy. Let's confirm that he is truly
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  Andrew. Hi, I'm Julie Andrews.
• 27:34
  He's pretty groovy some of our other voices, include Michael,
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  Caine, all your Michael Caine. The Patrick Stewart.
• 27:38
  I am Sir. Patrick Stewart, groaning
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  Stones? I am the Rolling.
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  Stones Wittenberg, wait a minute, Ethan.
• 27:43
  Are you sure? She's British now.
• 27:46
  That's where it is. Seamlessly from Somalia.
• 27:48
  That's a little different because it is, he said growing
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  Omega, right? That's a little different gears.
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  It is he is the end of the commercial or yo me the nine
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  dollars and we're Thomason Ethan of Thomason.
• 27:56
  Ethan's voice is a British person.
• 27:57
  Visit our website at UDOT, gov.uk William Emma.
• 28:01
  Watson now we're done with her but no Ethan And so, the new
• 28:09
  tough pigs slogan is you'll love this live laugh.
• 28:14
  Love right? I do love it perfectly.
• 28:18
  Isn't that great? Yes I was just well yes, just
• 28:22
  well I have a question about these t-shirts.
• 28:24
  Yes, yes. Are they wearable know that
• 28:28
  someone else? The only downside is that we
• 28:30
  haven't figured out how to make their shirts wearable.
• 28:32
  Yet we figured out how to make their shirts watchable.
• 28:35
  So, you can watch them for hours if you want to.
• 28:37
  Now, I know they're watchable. But are they washable?
• 28:41
  Oh, that's a great question. No, no.
• 28:44
  You only get the one time. I have this question for you.
• 28:48
  Yes. Are these shirts just jpegs?
• 28:53
  Well, no, that's a very good question.
• 28:55
  We, they're not just jpegs. They might seem like they're
• 28:59
  just jpegs, but they are not just jpegs.
• 29:01
  I don't know, they're not gifts. Here's the thing about things.
• 29:05
  Else. No, none of that.
• 29:07
  Now, they are images. They are images, but these
• 29:12
  images, you know. They're these Collectibles.
• 29:14
  You. See you in Great Club.
• 29:17
  No, absolutely not. You have to pay $60 o $60
• 29:23
  t-that's right? Gee, that's such a steal.
• 29:27
  It is such a bargain. It is, this is what we're
• 29:30
  saying, it's a bargain, you pay $60 and then you get an image
• 29:34
  file. With a unique code.
• 29:37
  Now it may look like there are 50 other of these collectible
• 29:42
  images that are exactly the same but technically the code is
• 29:45
  completely unique. No, will they say well they all
• 29:48
  say live laugh? Love or are some of us going to
• 29:52
  lose out on this amazing idea. They all say live laugh love and
• 29:57
  that's what makes them distinct, tough pigs IP.
• 30:02
  Now I just got here. Yes.
• 30:04
  Hello Maria. How are you?
• 30:08
  Good. What the fuck is going on?
• 30:12
  Well, here is telling us about the wonderful new tough pigs,
• 30:15
  merge? Yeah.
• 30:18
  In the great is the great. Do you want to buy it?
• 30:21
  Oh, definitely. Yeah, I'm so glad.
• 30:25
  Well, here's the one problem right now, a certain someone's
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  arm is extremely tired hurting very much from doing this.
• 30:33
  So I'm going to have to say goodbye, but thank you very much
• 30:35
  for your time visit mr. Squirrel are extremely expensive
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  images. Has.
• 30:41
  I can't wait for them to be wearable.
• 30:44
  Well, hey, don't hold your breath.
• 30:46
  All right, later, everybody. Goodbye.
• 30:52
  Welcome back, friends. I'd like to Circle back to
• 30:54
  Sesame Street for just one more thing and that one more thing is
• 30:57
  Sprouts discussion. Question for us Sprout, what
• 31:00
  have you got for us to discuss today?
• 31:02
  So I thought it would be a fun little thinking experiment.
• 31:07
  To question, what would Sesame Street be like today?
• 31:11
  Day if HBO hadn't bought into the company outside of defunct,
• 31:17
  because we all know they sold literally money.
• 31:21
  Yeah. About to say, they went from so
• 31:24
  many episodes to like six a year.
• 31:27
  So I'm going to say defunct if they didn't.
• 31:31
  I feel like less. Like we wouldn't have Elmo's.
• 31:38
  Elmo said Elmo's. Late Late Show.
• 31:39
  Is that the name? I'm so tired.
• 31:42
  Not slept. Who knows?
• 31:43
  Who cares? I think it's been not too late.
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  Yeah, not too late. Sorry, Rachel I did.
• 31:50
  Yeah, I did not sleep last night.
• 31:52
  We wouldn't have that. I don't think truly know.
• 31:57
  We wouldn't have that, but I do think that Sesame Street might
• 32:00
  have been able to get Get some other streaming deals and maybe
• 32:04
  get some of their other stuff back up on streaming.
• 32:07
  That HBO Max has just not been interested in making available.
• 32:12
  Yeah, I think Disney would have bought Sesame Street, that is.
• 32:17
  I hate. So it's probably a right, but
• 32:23
  right now I'm kind of like. Is it going to happen?
• 32:26
  Now that HBO Max is getting cold feet.
• 32:29
  I don't know if it's going to happen now, I'm just saying now
• 32:33
  that the HBO deals kind of seeming like it's starting to
• 32:35
  fall through the cracks, I'm not shutting anything down, is what
• 32:39
  I'm gonna say. Well how about we've already
• 32:42
  seen Apple TVs success with Fraggle Rock?
• 32:46
  What's to say? They don't buy the rights to
• 32:48
  Sesame. Well I think that that's a very
• 32:52
  good thought but at this point I do Wonder are we past the point
• 32:56
  of someone else getting is streaming deal for Sesame
• 32:59
  Street? And just going straight to
• 33:02
  Sesame Workshop is in crisis and someone has to by Sesame
• 33:06
  Workshop itself or else your goes away.
• 33:11
  But maybe that like you've got a really good point that like, if
• 33:14
  Apple TV plus could get everybody under the same
• 33:16
  umbrella, but it might be Disney plus, that's more likely to be
• 33:20
  able to get everybody under the same roof.
• 33:23
  Yeah. And there's a hopeful part of me
• 33:27
  me that I know this will never happen.
• 33:29
  That's like, oh, Maybe the handsome company can actually
• 33:31
  help which I know is like, not going to happen there.
• 33:33
  It's it's a very messy divorce like it's not a child of
• 33:39
  divorce. I'm a Jim Henson fan sometimes
• 33:45
  I, you know, it's a Daydream of like oh the good old days but
• 33:49
  like Henson company was dead in the water too.
• 33:53
  So like yeah companies are gonna company and companies die and
• 34:01
  We're in this very weird limbo state where because of Public
• 34:05
  Funding Sesame has to turn to other options and it is hard to
• 34:13
  think about it. It's surviving.
• 34:16
  And that is genuinely making me gonna cry and so I don't like to
• 34:23
  think about it. If only big bird ran for
• 34:26
  president, we needed that movie, if it, if HBO didn't, you know,
• 34:34
  get the the streaming rights and it, you know, it wasn't defunct.
• 34:40
  Then. Maybe there's an alternate
• 34:44
  universe where one of those like five seconds streaming apps, you
• 34:47
  know, the really big ones. What's that one that everyone
• 34:50
  was shooting on Mary, do you remember?
• 34:52
  I'm trying to remember, oh, quit bleep.
• 34:55
  Gonna be the Jeffrey katzenberg joint.
• 34:59
  Yeah, maybe there is an alternate universe where quippy.
• 35:03
  So I'm somehow help Sesame Street, only available on
• 35:06
  quality, you know, speaking of random streaming services.
• 35:12
  The Jim Henson company. Now has given random streaming
• 35:15
  now has given many of their projects homes on random
• 35:20
  streaming services for them. Like they've scattered things
• 35:24
  all over the dang place. So peacock added, Emma,
• 35:29
  daughters, jug-band Christmas and the Christmas toy to their
• 35:31
  service. The Christmas toy is free.
• 35:35
  Emmett Auto requires a paid subscription.
• 35:38
  Also behind the pay wall, you can also watch Emma, not An
• 35:41
  Amazon Prime for free you can. Well well free if you have
• 35:46
  Amazon Prime which is a lot of money.
• 35:47
  Heck yeah baby. Okay okay okay capitalist I'm
• 35:53
  paying Jeff Bezos all my money so I can watch Lenny Bruce died
• 35:58
  about it. Okay okay here's here's the
• 36:03
  amazing thing about peacock and the Jim Henson company.
• 36:06
  Now behind the peacock pay wall is Billy bunnies, animal songs,
• 36:13
  the 1993 Muppet sing along VHS tape, like I never in a million
• 36:20
  years never in a million years would have thought the Henson
• 36:23
  company would release this, which I've never seen in full.
• 36:26
  I've seen parts of it and part of it was caught up and included
• 36:30
  into the be and green sing-along tape that I had.
• 36:33
  Oh, there we go. Mary's, pointing that excites,
• 36:36
  Mary. My name is Maria.
• 36:38
  Maria. First, three letters of their
• 36:42
  name makes no, I knew. I was going to do it at some
• 36:45
  point. I don't think I've ever done it
• 36:46
  before, but I knew it was gonna happen tonight.
• 36:48
  Stop making hand motions. While you're holding your
• 36:51
  microphone, we are in, you're stuck in the keys, JD I know,
• 36:55
  I'll never get out of the cube. Have a kid out of the cube.
• 36:58
  Okay. So Jim Henson's Turkey Hollow.
• 37:01
  Anyone remember? Turkey Hollow good.
• 37:03
  No, no, me me, me me. Jim Henson's Turkey Hollow.
• 37:09
  I bring up because it we'll be coming to or art.
• 37:14
  Sorry it already is. Apparently I didn't notice it,
• 37:17
  but that's just me, it's already on Disney plus.
• 37:19
  Yeah, I'm not sure who cares, but weirdly even though was not
• 37:22
  made for Disney, it is on Disney.
• 37:24
  Plus Farscape has come to like YouTube to be peacock.
• 37:31
  Pluto TV, Amazon Roku Channel, Plex and Shout Factory TV while
• 37:37
  we're on the topic of the Jim Henson company.
• 37:39
  I want to shout out Jim Henson companies big win at the Oscars
• 37:44
  for Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio, who's nice to see
• 37:47
  Lisa, Henson up on that stage. She looks wonderful.
• 37:51
  He did also, I just want to shout out my friend, Oliver, who
• 37:55
  worked on that. He technically also won an
• 37:57
  Oscar. Congratulations all over, right?
• 38:00
  Yeah. People people might know him as
• 38:03
  cranbersher online. I think this is a really cool
• 38:08
  moment for the Jim Henson company, which Usually, the Jim
• 38:12
  Henson company has a lot of wins on television.
• 38:14
  They get a lot of em, he's pretty easily, but in terms of
• 38:18
  recognition for their films, I mean so much of their recent
• 38:23
  movies have been, you know, there was the Happy Time murders
• 38:25
  a few years ago they did the what?
• 38:29
  Okay, what was that the Alexander and the Terrible?
• 38:32
  Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day, they did that movie.
• 38:37
  Yeah, I didn't know they did that movie.
• 38:39
  Wow, Let's see. There's 24.
• 38:41
  Producers on that one. Yeah, it's a Disney movie.
• 38:45
  But yeah, whatever reducer reason, the Jim Henson company
• 38:48
  was also a production company on it and Lisa Henson was the
• 38:53
  producer. So this was like, the tail end
• 38:57
  of Disney making that kind of movie that sort of, like, just a
• 39:01
  real live action, family comedy. It feels like it's the last time
• 39:04
  when Disney was on normal movie studio that wasn't entirely
• 39:09
  built around just cranking out new installments of Franchises.
• 39:12
  Yeah. Then just a friend.
• 39:13
  Yeah. Like this.
• 39:14
  This is the last time when you might see Disney, do something
• 39:18
  like take a spec script. Not that this was necessarily
• 39:21
  that it was a still based on IP the running time for this
• 39:24
  feature. Film is 81 minutes.
• 39:27
  Hmm. Which is a short hairy men,
• 39:30
  sounds wonderful. It sounds wonderful now because
• 39:34
  we're so used to children's movies being a full two hours.
• 39:39
  Only you do not know who I am. I would kill for another 80 one
• 39:43
  minute movie and I feel very uneasy.
• 39:46
  You kill me and me. Yeah, it's true.
• 39:50
  I dunno. All I was trying to say there
• 39:56
  is, I think it's very, very nice that maybe the Jim Henson
• 40:00
  company is starting to have a little bit of a comeback but
• 40:03
  keep in mind, stop making faces and middle fingers while I'm
• 40:06
  trying to talk. I can't think I brought this
• 40:09
  upon myself but nevertheless we deal with What was I saying?
• 40:13
  What in the world was I saying their next.
• 40:16
  The Jim Henson company's next movie is coming to MGM.
• 40:18
  Plus a streaming service that sounds made up as a joke.
• 40:22
  I think mg M plus is kind of like a like an add-on to Amazon
• 40:26
  Prime or it's like okay kind of like your grip box or my
• 40:30
  personal favorite Acorn TV. Sure.
• 40:34
  So maybe this will be the next Oscar winner for the Jim Henson
• 40:37
  company, but I don't think so. I'm just glad that Pinocchio
• 40:40
  worked out for them. I haven't That film at some
• 40:43
  point here, fulfilled it's good, it's absolutely wonderful.
• 40:46
  Okay? Absolutely heartbreaking and
• 40:48
  beautiful. And if you haven't seen it, I
• 40:50
  think you should see it. I have a question.
• 40:53
  Yes. Do we Five Nights at Freddy's
• 40:56
  could be an Oscar winner. Hey, there's no reason right now
• 41:00
  to say it. Could it be?
• 41:02
  Yeah. Say Maria.
• 41:03
  What discussion question have you brought for us tonight?
• 41:06
  My discussion question. The Muppets have had many
• 41:09
  different public perceptions over time.
• 41:11
  And where do you think it's headed in the near future and
• 41:14
  how it correlates to, what we see now, because, you know,
• 41:17
  depending on who you ask the, The Muppets are either seen as,
• 41:19
  like, kids or family friendly, or adults, or, they're too nice,
• 41:23
  or they're too edgy. Where do you think that
• 41:25
  perception is right now? And where do you think it is
• 41:28
  going in the near future, right? Right now, I think the Muppets
• 41:31
  are mainly seen as memes, where it's Kermit drinking the tea,
• 41:37
  drinking the tea, or it's Miss Piggy is Glorious icon, which is
• 41:43
  in her own, right? Or the Kermit's down bad or see,
• 41:49
  I would argue that was more of Steve Whitmire in the era of
• 41:54
  when he did that Ted Talk. I think, I think it's still is
• 41:58
  carrying over into the public perception.
• 42:00
  Now, I think that's kind of a hard thing to shake.
• 42:04
  Yeah, I was gonna say, I think, I think that it's their kind of
• 42:07
  gonna be forever a little bit stuck in that knee mode, because
• 42:11
  means that I Like that, like the Kermit T1 that like, had all
• 42:14
  this, like, bootleg merchandise spawn that you can literally
• 42:17
  find anywhere. Yeah, he's never going to die
• 42:20
  because people are getting it for profit and that's what
• 42:22
  they're really using it for now. But I think it's a mix of meme
• 42:27
  in a way of like I feel like it was bigger in the early 2010's
• 42:30
  of that mean era of the Muppets but I feel like they're trying
• 42:34
  to steer away. At least as me, trying this tear
• 42:36
  away a bit from that and trying to get them more
• 42:39
  family-friendly, more Bass. Then anything I do think the
• 42:43
  direction they're going to be going into in the near future.
• 42:46
  Is that all of the Muppets are going to become Kpop stands?
• 42:49
  And I will not elaborate. Okay, good.
• 42:52
  Well, we, we do have Muppet Mayhem coming out and maybe that
• 42:56
  takes more of an adult. Turn rice.
• 43:00
  I have this one fear with muffin Mayhem and maybe this is just
• 43:03
  the people. I follow on Twitter that there
• 43:06
  is going to be like this huge group of people who do not give
• 43:09
  a shit about the puppets, but they We're just going to be
• 43:12
  there for the human romance and I'm not kidding.
• 43:15
  I think, what are you doing? I can see it.
• 43:17
  The weirdest people. Yeah.
• 43:20
  I mean, you follow all of us. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:22
  But I don't understand how this is possible at all.
• 43:27
  Well, that's fair well, enough people know about the human cast
• 43:33
  of the show. Like, has anyone ever watched a
• 43:35
  Muppet Show before without any interest, at all in the Muppets
• 43:38
  use you, you do not know the people I follow on Twitter.
• 43:41
  Twitter. They were watching them don't
• 43:43
  and I'm glad watching The Mighty Duck show and they found a ship
• 43:46
  out of it and they started watching it because of edits of
• 43:51
  that kind of those ships. That was me.
• 43:53
  I have nothing because of because of Gregg and Tom and his
• 43:57
  yeah, edits really shipping at, it's not even just shipping at.
• 44:01
  It's just like, thirst trap edits really drive a fan base to
• 44:05
  watch stuff. Yeah, uh-huh.
• 44:08
  Yeah, you're completely baffled. Why should I know better than
• 44:12
  anyone? You went and found archival fan
• 44:16
  mail just for Maria of Sesame Street.
• 44:20
  That's, that's true. Her, that is Imagine.
• 44:25
  Imagine if they were, if there was the ability to make and
• 44:28
  share Maria fancams in the 70s, but would have happened.
• 44:32
  Yes, I fear. I fear, we will be getting
• 44:34
  Lillie staying in Muppet Mayhem fancams and I don't I think we
• 44:39
  do need like fancams. Not of Lilly Singh.
• 44:42
  No offense to the Lilly Singh. We need like we do need fancams,
• 44:47
  especially like in The Tick-Tock Errol like we do need like Floyd
• 44:51
  and Janice edits and you know like has Zoot edits and and Dr.
• 44:56
  T he sexy man at its we need those things to drive engagement
• 45:00
  that. Yeah.
• 45:01
  That would be fully agree because you re like okay The
• 45:05
  Stanley Parable is one of my favorite video games and it had
• 45:09
  a really big boom for like a month and then it went down.
• 45:11
  And it's having a Resurgence right now because some people
• 45:14
  found narrator lines talking about Stanley and they've been
• 45:19
  making ship at its and it has a big Resurgence.
• 45:21
  And and the guy who made it's talking about like how much like
• 45:25
  sales have gone up in the last couple months because of those
• 45:28
  fan edits. So we do need those speaking of
• 45:32
  band on its it makes me think of like because I do follow some
• 45:35
  people on Tick-Tock who do make like Muppet edits.
• 45:39
  Yeah. And I'm going to be honest.
• 45:40
  One of the The best ones I've seen was the one that was
• 45:45
  Taylor. Swift would have could have
• 45:46
  should have was not that Christmas, Carol Scrooge.
• 45:49
  That is such a good really good one and it's things like that
• 45:55
  that I'm like if we had these her like Muppets Mayhem it would
• 46:00
  be, it would blow up because people love Taylor, Swift lyrics
• 46:04
  and people love, whatever it like applying them to certain
• 46:07
  situations. This doesn't have to do with the
• 46:09
  Muppets. Can we talk about the tailor?
• 46:11
  Swift added to that one. Jesus movie from Latin America.
• 46:15
  What? No.
• 46:16
  We don't have time. We don't have rooms.
• 46:20
  It's, it's 10:00 now. Where I am?
• 46:23
  It's 11:00. Yeah.
• 46:25
  So public perception changes. And I just want to know, I like,
• 46:33
  I know the fandom perception. I want to know the, the public
• 46:38
  perception of the people that aren't Megan.
• 46:41
  Fans like us or even just casual fans.
• 46:44
  I want the people that are like, have no clue that Kermit and
• 46:48
  Peggy broke up. Those type of people, you know.
• 46:51
  Yeah, yeah. I think that they still think of
• 46:55
  the Muppets as sort of a family brand for kids, but will
• 46:59
  probably only be interested in the muppets.
• 47:02
  Again, if the stuff that the Muppets are doing, has that
• 47:05
  chaotic like a really big loud, fast energy again, that is We
• 47:11
  need more explosions. Yes.
• 47:14
  Yeah, I don't know. I think we'll see.
• 47:16
  And I do, I do actually want to hear Mary's discussion question
• 47:20
  because I didn't know where to put it in the plan for this
• 47:22
  episode because I have no idea what it is.
• 47:25
  All right, all right, all right, if you were to select any Muppet
• 47:30
  or Jim Henson character and put them in a bong and smoke them,
• 47:35
  which one would it be boober? Fraggle?
• 47:41
  Janice Yes, I was gonna say lose, Eland.
• 47:45
  Mmm, fishy. Floyd is like my one and only I
• 47:48
  feel like I would just be having the time of my life.
• 47:51
  This punk. What about you JD?
• 47:54
  I'm struggling. I'm struggling to wrap my little
• 47:57
  brain around. What this question means this is
• 48:00
  why I asked if this was a family-friendly podcast.
• 48:03
  Yeah well we're well past that now I guess Big Bird.
• 48:11
  Oh, go with Bing burger. No, so, that's right.
• 48:17
  Well, I like the Mellow energy. I've always thought that big
• 48:22
  bird and bongs just go together. It just makes sense.
• 48:26
  Ready, boss. I think your friend who likes to
• 48:30
  play big bong I feel like my needs a little explanation
• 48:40
  because people associate boober with paranoia but awesome trip.
• 48:47
  You want to have there are some strains that make you like
• 48:55
  instantly go into cleaning mode and like you need to do
• 48:58
  everything all at once. And my thought is going towards
• 49:02
  that with boober and just getting chores, done, I see.
• 49:05
  You get all your laundry done. So, Finally, moving to Disney's
• 49:11
  Muppet studio news, Kermit and Fozzie appeared on Disney's
• 49:15
  Schoolhouse Rock. 50th Anniversary.
• 49:18
  Sing along. This was for what, Hulu?
• 49:22
  Or at least it's on Hulu. Now, I think it was for TV.
• 49:25
  It's on. It's on Disney plus now, it's on
• 49:27
  to Z Plus Z Plus? Yeah.
• 49:29
  Why does tough pigs dot-coms? Why did Johannes a Hulu?
• 49:33
  Maybe it's on Hulu, and Disney place at the same time.
• 49:37
  Anyway, what did we think? Gov Kermit and Fozzie on on
• 49:41
  Schoolhouse Rock. Because I got to tell you, I
• 49:43
  tried to watch it and I just kind of nodded off I haven't
• 49:48
  watched it because everyone who watched it when it's okay and
• 49:51
  like okay nothing's really compelling.
• 49:53
  Hey, that's the general consensus.
• 49:55
  So like, and how does it happen? I'd rather spend my muppet
• 50:01
  energy watching things that are bad or really, really good.
• 50:06
  I watched it because I'm a fan. I'm a big fan of Schoolhouse
• 50:09
  Rock and of course the Muppets. Why wouldn't I be here?
• 50:12
  Disney keeps producing these type of specials, that's just
• 50:16
  like singing. Long's that they've been
• 50:18
  producing since 2020, for obvious reasons, it gives me big
• 50:22
  imagine video on Twitter energy that I hate it does.
• 50:29
  And I just, we don't need these type of specials anymore.
• 50:34
  Yeah, I'd rather celebrate Schoolhouse Rock or whatever the
• 50:38
  special is about, but instead, we're just getting all these
• 50:41
  random ass celebrities, they keep throwing at us to like sing
• 50:44
  and dance to these songs. Though I did really like love
• 50:49
  comets performance. Great, great singer.
• 50:51
  It's like why are you here? Why is fawzi here?
• 50:54
  You're not talking or doing anything really you're doing
• 50:57
  kind of sight gags stuff. It's it's mediocre at best, it's
• 51:02
  fine, it's fine. That's its it.
• 51:04
  If I'm doing like an a to F it be a see.
• 51:08
  Speaking of why is Fozzie here, I want to know why Fozzie is now
• 51:15
  in Disney Parks hotel rooms. Well, there's a very bad answer.
• 51:21
  I could give you a comedian, that's what they do.
• 51:27
  Good, so I should explain what I was referencing here.
• 51:31
  I'm just going to read a bit of the tough pigs article.
• 51:33
  Breaking this story, which was written, by Johannes the
• 51:37
  executive producer of this podcast that you're hearing
• 51:40
  right now, whether it likes it or not.
• 51:44
  Hi Joe. Yeah, I just think you're Super
• 51:47
  cooling, great. And that everything I say on
• 51:50
  here is so super cool and great. I don't know, since you're super
• 51:53
  cool and great, you will not want to cut any of it.
• 51:57
  Yep. That'll work, that'll definitely
• 51:59
  work. Okay, this article is titled
• 52:02
  move over Alexa Fozzie Bear is your new digital assistant,
• 52:05
  wouldn't it be great if you could ask your Alexa or Google
• 52:08
  or toaster oven to tell you a joke and then out pops, the
• 52:12
  voice of Fozzie Bear with a classic groaner.
• 52:16
  Currently the folks at Disney have the same Quarry, because
• 52:19
  that's pretty much what's happening.
• 52:21
  The Disney Magical companion is a new and or upcoming service on
• 52:25
  the Amazon Echo in which you'll be able to say hey Disney and
• 52:29
  then ask it to set a timer ask about the weather or ask for a
• 52:33
  recipe for dragonfly Ripple ice cream.
• 52:36
  You know just like all those other digital assistants the
• 52:39
  catch is that hey Disney will conjure up a random Disney
• 52:42
  character to help you with your troubles characters like Dory
• 52:46
  from Finding Nemo. Mo Olaf from Frozen.
• 52:48
  Made her from cars, as well as Mickey, Minnie and Groot have
• 52:55
  all been confirmed, Fozzie Bear an animal from the Muppets will
• 52:59
  also have their voices captured and stuffed into the device.
• 53:03
  That's how machines work, right? According to the verge, the
• 53:06
  device was on display at the CES Expo, which may mean it's likely
• 53:12
  still in development but clothes for wide release.
• 53:15
  But also according to the Disney Six website.
• 53:17
  The Disney Magical companion is already in use at their Resorts,
• 53:21
  so whether you hope to get a wake-up call from animal or to
• 53:23
  get directions to your closest Honey dispensary from Fozzie,
• 53:28
  this could be coming to your home very soon.
• 53:31
  Thanks to Danny horn for the info.
• 53:33
  And then, of course, it says, click here to get yelled at
• 53:36
  through a tiny speaker on the tough pigs Forum.
• 53:39
  I'm sorry, like I had, I really hate to bring this up because
• 53:45
  it's not my buddy. But how is Root gonna be helpful
• 53:48
  in a recipe. Like this group could be helpful
• 53:51
  in any situation. I am Groot.
• 53:54
  I forgot we are Groot 1/4 cup of group.
• 53:59
  I do want to say the next time Sprout and I are at a Disney
• 54:03
  park, we are going to try to use this specifically to get Mater.
• 54:07
  Yeah that Go dadgum Muppets Mayhem.
• 54:13
  Set to Premiere in early May any thoughts, any feelings?
• 54:16
  What are we excited for? I really hope My Chemical
• 54:20
  Romance is there. I'm excited for the record.
• 54:22
  Can we can we talk about real quick?
• 54:24
  But the Paul McCartney rumor. Yeah.
• 54:28
  What do we make of that? I'm, I'm intrigued as a deep
• 54:33
  lover of whatever that old man does.
• 54:36
  It's called music intriguing that it wasn't leaked earlier
• 54:40
  than that. Actually, it's because everybody
• 54:43
  except Beverly Goldberg had an NDA.
• 54:45
  You know what? I'm always in this weird limbo
• 54:48
  state right before we get. Well even just whenever Muppet
• 54:51
  stuff is announced, I'm like either it's going to be great
• 54:54
  and I'm going to like it or it's going to be terrible but I'm
• 54:58
  gonna hate it down. There's not, there's not usually
• 55:01
  a happy medium, sometimes we do get a medium and it's like,
• 55:04
  okay, that was fine, but Sometimes I'm like, yes, I'm
• 55:10
  very excited for my but Mayhem, I love the Electric Mayhem.
• 55:13
  There's some of my favorite parts of the original Muppet
• 55:15
  Show. I love those characters to
• 55:17
  death, Zoot my beloved and other times.
• 55:21
  I'm like, how are they going to carry a show with dreams and
• 55:27
  hopes, and Rainbow Connection, rainbow connections?
• 55:31
  We're going to hear that song. I do you want you?
• 55:34
  I bet Sing it. I feel like maybe the Electric
• 55:39
  Mayhem instrumental on like a dramatic moment.
• 55:44
  Yeah. Life hasn't been the same since
• 55:46
  our manager. Jim died Rainbow Connection
• 55:49
  answers, will come in and then you zoom in on the log.
• 56:04
  In the middle of the swamp and it's just animal on the banjo Oh
• 56:15
  my god. Um, I I want it to be really
• 56:21
  good and other times I get worried about, like, characters
• 56:23
  because we do have these characters that have had set,
• 56:26
  like, personalities, and character traits for a while.
• 56:29
  And I'm worried they're going to do a 2015 where they're going
• 56:31
  to, just rip him to shreds and make new characters.
• 56:34
  Were, they made like Floyd up a conspiracy theories for no.
• 56:38
  Reason why it was a conspiracy theorist for no damn reason.
• 56:41
  Zoot I can get with because like he was already really sleepy and
• 56:46
  zoned out all the time sleepy in quotations.
• 56:49
  You know what I mean? They made Janice The Village
• 56:53
  bicycle and it upsets me to this day and I don't want that to
• 56:57
  happen. Here, I would as a Floyd and
• 57:01
  Janet shipper. I would like them to still be
• 57:03
  together, please. Thank you.
• 57:04
  I just, I just hope that it's not too.
• 57:08
  Focused on like the humans. Like I know that is a draw in.
• 57:13
  They I know that they did that with Muppets Haunted Mansion.
• 57:16
  Like they made it a big part of the promo but like and that'll
• 57:18
  become more of a part of that than you thought it was.
• 57:21
  But I really hope that like, they're kind of like a Sprinkle
• 57:25
  in of like having humans in The Muppets and I really hope it's
• 57:29
  more Muppets themed. Like, we got like more Muppet
• 57:32
  Focus than anything of like like like the side characters have
• 57:36
  their be plots, but they're not. Big enough be plots to where you
• 57:39
  think. It's in a pot, I have a bad
• 57:41
  feeling. I also think if they do a humid,
• 57:44
  be plot, I'm gonna be tuning out because I don't care about the
• 57:47
  humans. I've never cared about the
• 57:49
  humans. So yeah, from everything that
• 57:52
  we've heard about this show so far from the people involved.
• 57:58
  It seems like the Muppet studio actually has a lot of control
• 58:03
  over this in a way that they didn't over the ABC show.
• 58:05
  Yes. So I Spect that if they are
• 58:10
  doing anything like the 2015 show, in terms of how they
• 58:13
  handle the characters, it will be very much, much more in
• 58:18
  conversation with the performers, much more driven by
• 58:21
  the performers to help. So I really think so.
• 58:26
  I mean, it seems like everybody who's worked on the show from
• 58:31
  what little I have heard through.
• 58:33
  The grapevine is pleased is pleased that this show, Oh, is
• 58:38
  is some maybe return to form for the Muppets, perhaps, but we
• 58:42
  don't know. Reso cellmate my type bring up,
• 58:45
  though. They were saying the same
• 58:47
  things, when Muppet Haunted Mansion was coming out.
• 58:51
  Well, but then everybody really liked Muppets Haunted Mansion
• 58:54
  that was yeah, hugely popular among casual fans.
• 58:58
  I think Yeah, you can tell, you can tell the love and intent of
• 59:05
  when people do Muppets projects, when you can tell that they that
• 59:08
  it's been an impact in their life.
• 59:10
  And so they want to continue what they know when they love
• 59:13
  which is which tends to be very close or trying to at least
• 59:17
  emulate. What Jim did originally with the
• 59:18
  Muppets, because that's what they've all seen.
• 59:21
  So I think definitely that gives me a good bit of like hope of
• 59:25
  like okay, it's not coming out. This is a corporate angle of
• 59:28
  let's get this show. Let's This, let's push this.
• 59:30
  It's more of a, this is a labor of love and in continuing what
• 59:35
  you've seen your whole life and doing it, good and Justice.
• 59:39
  So I have Good Hope about that. I have good faith in this and I
• 59:43
  am looking forward to Muppets Pride and Prejudice with
• 59:46
  freckled stayed. It gives me the same energy of
• 59:49
  the DuckTales. Reboot like the people behind
• 59:52
  that were really like huge DuckTales fans, huge like you
• 59:56
  know Disney Saturday morning fan.
• 59:59
  So I I hope that this is the same thing of like actually
• 1:00:03
  wanting to make a muppet thing and loving it.
• 1:00:08
  Yeah, friends. This has been something and
• 1:00:13
  you've given us a lot to think about that, it has, but I'm
• 1:00:17
  afraid, our time is coming to an end Mary.
• 1:00:20
  Where can people find you on the internet?
• 1:00:22
  People can find all of us at Muppets underscore talking on
• 1:00:25
  Twitter and they can find me at Muppet m'lady on Twitter.
• 1:00:30
  Sprout. We're at this point.
• 1:00:33
  You're not on Twitter much. So no, but by my account still
• 1:00:37
  open. I may go back eventually.
• 1:00:39
  So you could possibly find me at paopu Sprout on Twitter, but
• 1:00:45
  otherwise, it would be at, is it Muppets underscore talking?
• 1:00:50
  It is, where can we find you Maria?
• 1:00:53
  Oh, in your dreams and your nightmares?
• 1:00:56
  No, I am at nerdy Maria Mania. AA on Twitter, Tumblr.
• 1:01:01
  Instagram. You can also find me with
• 1:01:04
  musical without a cool acronym on YouTube.
• 1:01:06
  We're in our final year, we're going out with something.
• 1:01:11
  Well, I don't know what we're doing.
• 1:01:12
  It, goodbye forever. Yeah, you can find me on a 03 if
• 1:01:18
  you want to read fanfiction goodbye, be what Twitter account
• 1:01:26
  do you have that still alive? You can find me on Twitter at
• 1:01:33
  McCartney Muppet. That's the new one to Live and
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  Let Die. And now a moment of spontaneous
• 1:01:44
  Applause for our panel of Muppet experts.
• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:53
  This tough pigs Muppet, fan podcast was executive produced
• 1:01:55
  by the tough pigs Muppet fan, podcast executive producer
• 1:01:58
  Johannes. To Kenny, Durkin for our work
• 1:02:01
  and thanks to Frank Oz, because it's always a good time to thank
• 1:02:03
  you, Frank, for tough, pigs.com. This is JD Hansel, reminding you
• 1:02:07
  of Jim Henson's motto, you'll never get out of the cube,
• 1:02:09
  goodbye. Okay, so Maria since you've got
• 1:02:22
  one prepared, why don't you start the convenience store,
• 1:02:25
  clerk? Yesterday saw my Crusher and
• 1:02:28
  then he started man's playing to me about how George Carlin
• 1:02:31
  hosted Sesame Street for Five Seasons, and he wouldn't show
• 1:02:34
  the back up. And I'm so tired and he looked
• 1:02:37
  at me like I was crazy and it's not like that, he was crazy.
• 1:02:39
  I think he just had so much entitlement, and I can't believe
• 1:02:42
  him, they would say, such a thing to me and also he was
• 1:02:45
  like, oh, the mothers were so edgy.
• 1:02:47
  It's like you don't understand a lot.
• 1:02:49
  I don't know why you're talking to me.
• 1:02:51
  I write for tough Pig's Eye, I host a muppet podcast, stop
• 1:02:54
  talking to me. Stop looking at me.
• 1:02:56
  I just want my friend KitKat and a water bottle.
• 1:03:00
  I don't want to be here. I think Matt Vogel.
• 1:03:03
  Is it a really good ol Mo? He sounds nothing like Peter
• 1:03:06
  lens or Frank Oz, they could found anyone to voice acting
• 1:03:11
  better. Even, I could do it.
• 1:03:13
  Hebrews Kitty. Maybe you could uh, Kitty, see
• 1:03:17
  you at? Let me do it.
• 1:03:18
  I could be a great voice. Tactics fun like a really heavy
• 1:03:22
  with Scott. Northern Wisconsin accent for
• 1:03:24
  mine, please. Yes, please, okay.
• 1:03:29
  Okay, so I'm a little peeved off right now because I've been
• 1:03:33
  going to Walmart every other day for the past two weeks trying to
• 1:03:37
  find the wet and wild Sesame Street collection.
• 1:03:39
  I can't find it anywhere. I've been going every other day
• 1:03:41
  for the past two weeks so I decided something about it.
• 1:03:43
  So I went out of town this past weekend.
• 1:03:45
  Go see some friends like, you know, someone does.
• 1:03:47
  And then I decide I'm going to go to war.
• 1:03:49
  Mark their first thing I see when into the Walmart.
• 1:03:51
  Well I'm throwing hurt my back left and right.
• 1:03:53
  I got almost everything they're spending over $200 and I'm like
• 1:03:57
  damn this is why I should have a peach him.
• 1:04:01
  Yeah, I wish that were me. Excellent!
• 1:04:04
  He's gonna have a great time at an egg.
• 1:04:06
  I already do. Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:07
  I'm like when he said, do you guys want to do a podcast?
• 1:04:10
  I'm like, you know what? You're getting yourself into.
• 1:04:14
  We haven't worked together in a year and it's made us all
• 1:04:17
  Farrell. That's true.
• 1:04:19
  GD. Has been in hell this whole
• 1:04:21
  time. You can never escape the cube.
• 1:04:26
  It's true. I'll never get out of the cube.
• 1:04:27
  And this is my Cube now. Yeah, I wish that were me.
• 1:04:03
  Excellent! He's gonna have a great time at
• 1:04:05
  an egg. I already do.
• 1:04:07
  Oh, yeah. I'm like when he said, do you
• 1:04:09
  guys want to do a podcast? I'm like, you know what?
• 1:04:11
  You're getting yourself into. We haven't worked together in a
• 1:04:15
  year and it's made us all Farrell.
• 1:04:18
  That's true. GD.
• 1:04:20
  Has been in hell this whole time.
• 1:04:23
  You can never escape the cube. It's true.
• 1:04:26
  I'll never get out of the cube. And this is my Cube now.