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The Ultimate Encounter: Six Onboard UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFO's in the Paranormal. Today's episode
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Speaker 1: is called the Ultimate Encounter. Six Onboard UFO Experiences. I
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Speaker 1: love talking about all kinds of UFO encounters, whether they're
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Speaker 1: sightings or landings or face to face encounters with humanoids,
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Speaker 1: but when people are taken on board, to me, these
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Speaker 1: are the cases that have the most potential to really
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Speaker 1: answer all of the many questions surrounding UFO contact. These
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Speaker 1: are the cases that have the most information, and to me,
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Speaker 1: these are the cases that are the most interesting by far.
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Speaker 1: And I've chosen six cases that I think you probably
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Speaker 1: haven't heard of before, and they're certainly interesting because they
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Speaker 1: reach all the way back to the nineteen twenties up
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Speaker 1: through the nineteen nineties. They come from many different locations,
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Speaker 1: including Canada, the United States, South America more specifically Brazil,
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Speaker 1: but as well as Europe including Spain and Hungary, and
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Speaker 1: one case from Iran, which is really interesting because we
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Speaker 1: don't get a whole lot of information about UFOs in
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Speaker 1: that country. And of course these do involve many different
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Speaker 1: types of ets humanoids, and also some really interesting and
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Speaker 1: compelling evidence. Two of these are multiple witness cases, the
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Speaker 1: others are single witness cases, but certainly compelling. Each case
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Speaker 1: adds another piece of the puzzle to what's going on here,
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Speaker 1: and I hope that you will find these cases interesting.
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Speaker 1: So let's just get started. In the first case I'd
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Speaker 1: like to talk about today, I call the case of
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Speaker 1: Betty Stewart deja Nay. Her case is really interesting because
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Speaker 1: it involves several encounters. They reach back all the way
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Speaker 1: to the nineteen twenties up through the nineteen seventies and
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Speaker 1: took place primarily in Ontario, Canada, and her case particularly
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Speaker 1: compelling because it's one of the best examples of the
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Speaker 1: soul called alien implants that we hear so much about.
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Speaker 1: Eddie Stuart Dejaney's case was investigated by a team of
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Speaker 1: UFO researchers from the Canadian UFO network and she reports
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Speaker 1: at least five onboard UFO encounters. And the first occurred
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Speaker 1: all the way back in nineteen twenty five when Betty
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Speaker 1: was only five years old. Was a summer night and
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Speaker 1: Betty was in her parents' home in Port Burwell, Ontario,
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Speaker 1: And as Betty says in her own words, I woke
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Speaker 1: up and felt compelled to go outside in the backyard.
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Speaker 1: I was stricken with terror as a train approached, and
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Speaker 1: I knew it was coming for me. Now, Betty had
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Speaker 1: never heard of UFOs, so she kind of perceived this
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Speaker 1: object as a train. She did not know what to
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Speaker 1: think was. Years later, after having other experiences that she
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Speaker 1: elected to go under hypnotic regression to recall her experiance,
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Speaker 1: and she was taken to this event, and she remembered
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Speaker 1: hearing a quote throbbing or pulsating, whining hum as this
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Speaker 1: weird light approached her from over Lake Erie. She said
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Speaker 1: it hovered briefly overhead and was wobbling in the sky
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Speaker 1: as she looked up towards it, and the next thing
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Speaker 1: she knew she was floating up into this object inside
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Speaker 1: this craft. And as Betty says, everything is very white
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Speaker 1: and light. Things come towards me, small and gray. The
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Speaker 1: eyes are large and far apart. I'm sitting on a bed.
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Speaker 1: So she described these beings as having very large heads,
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Speaker 1: small faces with large bulging eyes, pale white gray skin,
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Speaker 1: and very slender bodies. Said they wore skin tight coveralls
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Speaker 1: that looked like quote stretchy satin. Now At this point,
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Speaker 1: one of the beings called her name and said Betty,
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Speaker 1: you're a little girl, and floated her up onto a table.
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Speaker 1: They removed her nightgown, she says. One of them touched
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Speaker 1: the skin on her bottom, apparently, as she says, trying
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Speaker 1: to see the texture of my body. And they then
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Speaker 1: began to float her around the cabin. And as Betty says,
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Speaker 1: again under hypnotic regression, there are instruments on a panel,
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Speaker 1: three of them. I feel as if I'm dreaming. I
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Speaker 1: want to put my nightgown back on. One of them
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Speaker 1: has a long steel needle. There's things that come out
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Speaker 1: of it, things that drop down. Now, the next thing
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Speaker 1: she knew, she was being escorted out of this craft
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Speaker 1: and floated back down to the ground. And, as she says,
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Speaker 1: still an rhypnosis, I'm standing on the grass. I hear
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Speaker 1: recall from my mother. They had floated me back. I
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Speaker 1: go in the back door. Our collie dog is lying
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Speaker 1: there and won't move. I'm back in my bed. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to sleep. So that's what she recalled under hypnosis,
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Speaker 1: but consciously she did remember parts of this. So the
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Speaker 1: next morning Betty ran outside to see if there was
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Speaker 1: any evidence of a train coming through her backyard. Of
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Speaker 1: course there wasn't, but she vividly remembered the strange humming sound,
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Speaker 1: and in fact, anytime she heard anything similar to that sound,
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Speaker 1: she would feel a profound anxiety sweeping over her. And
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Speaker 1: she did notice one other strange after effect of the encounter.
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Speaker 1: As Betty says, the experience left me with precognitive abilities clairvoyance,
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Speaker 1: claire audience, claire sentience, and what is now referred to
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Speaker 1: as telekinesis or control over matter. So that was her
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Speaker 1: first experience, and it wasn't long after that one that
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Speaker 1: she had her second experience, And in fact it was
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Speaker 1: that same summer, and again she recalled much of it
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Speaker 1: under hypnotic regression by researcher David Gottlieb. As Betty says
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Speaker 1: in her words, I was lying on the grass. It
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Speaker 1: was daytime, the grass was moving and I saw the ship.
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Speaker 1: The craft is on the ground. There are beings here.
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Speaker 1: They have yellow skin and it's wrinkled. I think they
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Speaker 1: have a sense of humor. They have dark eyes piercing.
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Speaker 1: It's another type of craft. The craft is pointed at
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Speaker 1: the ends, flat like a saucer. They don't stand up
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Speaker 1: in the craft, they have to use bays to lie
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Speaker 1: down to go into flight. The craft is very flat.
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Speaker 1: It has contours domes, but the sides are ellipses. They
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Speaker 1: just fit into areas which contour to their bodies. When
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Speaker 1: they lay down, they look as if they're comfortable. So
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Speaker 1: Betty doesn't recall a whole lot of what happened once
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Speaker 1: she was taken on board. She did see that they
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Speaker 1: were flying high above the earth. At one point, one
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Speaker 1: of the ets seemed to show an interest in her
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Speaker 1: hair and started touching it, and, as Betty says, I
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Speaker 1: didn't want them to do that. The next thing she
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Speaker 1: knew she was returned home. She heard her mother calling
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Speaker 1: and that was it. Now there are some interesting aspects
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Speaker 1: to Betty's life because at age sixteen, she developed a
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Speaker 1: very strong interest in electronics and actually built a transformer
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Speaker 1: in the basement of their home. This is something a
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Speaker 1: number of contactees have experienced. Her next encounter occurred many
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Speaker 1: years later. It was July twelfth, nineteen fifty nine or
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one thereabouts. That he was now about thirty
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Speaker 1: years old and living in the York Mills area of Toronto.
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Speaker 1: At twenty nine Upper Canada Drive next to what was
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Speaker 1: then the Saint Andrew's golf course, now a park, now
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Speaker 1: being pounter began with her being floated along the ground
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Speaker 1: and suddenly up into a brightly lick craft which was
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Speaker 1: hovering outside her balcony. This was a small craft, she asked.
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Speaker 1: It's about seven feet wide, four square, sh portholes, a
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Speaker 1: dome on top. She saw a small ramp. She suddenly
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Speaker 1: found herself inside a wedge shaped room. She saw a
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Speaker 1: shiny instrument of some kind on the wall with red, green, yellow, blue,
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Speaker 1: and white colored squares. Kind of reminded her of a calendar.
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Speaker 1: She saw a number of things that she found very
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Speaker 1: hard to describe, as Betty says. There's a doorway with
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Speaker 1: funny looking things across it in a horizontal pattern. They
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Speaker 1: look like fibrous rods. I think you could walk right
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Speaker 1: through them and you wouldn't feel them. Just in front
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Speaker 1: of the door, there's a mat. It looks like it's
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Speaker 1: part of the floor. It's only about a foot wide
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Speaker 1: and about three feet long. It's dark brown and fuzzy.
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Speaker 1: She saw other things. Something she described as an index
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Speaker 1: wheel with a handle and small beige pouches affixed to
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Speaker 1: it other rooms could be seen. She says the gray
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Speaker 1: type ets wore gray robes. They put a bid like
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Speaker 1: covering on her and then placed her on a movable
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Speaker 1: steel table and proceeded to examine her with a strange
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Speaker 1: cylindrical shaped instrument. At one point, she says, the table
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Speaker 1: tilted upwards so that she was almost standing. They told
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Speaker 1: her look the other way, and when she did, she
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Speaker 1: saw a small box filled with quote, tiny pellets, And
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Speaker 1: they began to put these pellets into a device shaped
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Speaker 1: kind of like a parking meter. She said it was
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Speaker 1: quote a creamy white color. Now she believes that these
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Speaker 1: pellets may have been implants, given what happened next. And
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Speaker 1: I'll just quote Betty directly as she says, they're putting
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Speaker 1: a pellet on the end of the instrument. The instrument
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Speaker 1: looks like a combination of poires and pincers. One of
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Speaker 1: them pushes the end of the instrument with the palm
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Speaker 1: of his hand, and the pellet is firmly held by
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Speaker 1: the instrument. The pellet has two prongs sticking out of
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Speaker 1: it at one end. One of them is adjusting the
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Speaker 1: handle of it. Someone says, this one won't need any help.
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Speaker 1: They put it on the outside of my left ear,
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Speaker 1: on the cartilage back of my ear. I hear a
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Speaker 1: buzzing sound from it. It has lights flashing on it.
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Speaker 1: It's cold. When they put it in my ear, it's done.
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Speaker 1: One of them says, they just took it out, took
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Speaker 1: off the bag. I felt no pain during the operation. Now,
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Speaker 1: one of them says, home now, and they are taking
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Speaker 1: me by the elbows. We're floating. They're taking me out
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Speaker 1: of the ship. We're going through my balcony door into
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Speaker 1: the living room. There's a large solid light on the balcony.
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Speaker 1: I'm in the bed now. So this again was all
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Speaker 1: recovered under hypnosis. But Betty woke up the next morning
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Speaker 1: with no memory of being taken on board. But she
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Speaker 1: did find that her ear was red, swollen and itchy,
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Speaker 1: and she just assumed that she had been bitten by
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Speaker 1: an insect. Now it was some years later, nineteen sixty six,
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Speaker 1: that Betty had her fourth encounter. She was unable to
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Speaker 1: remember how the experience began, but she recalled being floated
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Speaker 1: up into a craft which was hovering above what she
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Speaker 1: thinks might have been Lake Ontario, And, as Betty says
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Speaker 1: in her own words, there are two beings on board.
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Speaker 1: One was facing me, while the other had his back
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Speaker 1: to me as he worked on the dials on the
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Speaker 1: panel in front of him. They had large, squarish round
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Speaker 1: heads with no obvious neck. The eyes were spaced far apart.
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Speaker 1: They had large noses. The skin was gray white. They
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Speaker 1: had no hair. Their hands were five digited, with stubby
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Speaker 1: fingers and three fourth inch webbing between the fingers. The
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Speaker 1: most remarkable factual feature was the nose, with nostrils ending
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Speaker 1: in two little elephant like trunks about three or four
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Speaker 1: inches below the collarbone. She says, the ets put something
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Speaker 1: on my neck which looks like a combination lock. It
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Speaker 1: burns a little, so she had trouble describing some of this,
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Speaker 1: But the next morning, while taking a shower, she know
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Speaker 1: it's a small, round, burn like mark about the size
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Speaker 1: of a silver dollar at the base of her neck,
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Speaker 1: and it faded away after three days. Now. What she
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Speaker 1: believes was their fifth and final encounter occurred on December
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Speaker 1: twenty second, nineteen seventy nine. It was a foggy night
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Speaker 1: as she and her brother drove along Highway nine between
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Speaker 1: Upper Canada Mall and Highway four hundred. This is North
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Speaker 1: of Toronto. You can see the spot here on a map.
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Speaker 1: It was a trip which normally took about fifteen minutes,
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Speaker 1: but inexplicably took almost an hour, so there was a
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Speaker 1: period of at least twenty minutes of missing time. And
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Speaker 1: during this trip she consciously recalled that they had entered
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Speaker 1: into this dense black cloud and upon coming out, there
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Speaker 1: were strangely no more cars ahead of them, whereas before
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Speaker 1: there had been. So years later, under hypnosis, she went
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Speaker 1: back to this incident to explore it and recalled that
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Speaker 1: their car had been stopped by human looking figures dressed
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Speaker 1: in gray green coveralls. They pulled her out of the car,
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Speaker 1: leaving her brother behind. They took her into a room
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Speaker 1: which she said was kind of green colored. She said
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Speaker 1: she was examined by a strange instrument. She doesn't really
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Speaker 1: remember a whole lot, but she was then returned to
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Speaker 1: her car, where she saw her brother sitting rigid and
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Speaker 1: entranced in the car seat. They then drove off. All
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Speaker 1: memories of the UFO and the onboard experience were erased
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Speaker 1: from her conscious mind. Now, in nineteen eighty six, having
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Speaker 1: had all these strange incidents, that he did elect to
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Speaker 1: go under hypnosis, and she recalled these five onboard encounters
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Speaker 1: and believing she had an implant behind her left ear.
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Speaker 1: Betty agreed that upon her death doctors could remove her implant,
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Speaker 1: but she ended up having it removed in nineteen eighty eight,
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Speaker 1: possibly eighty nine. There's some confusion here, but it was
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Speaker 1: three years before she actually passed away in nineteen ninety two,
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Speaker 1: and she was pretty sure that this was an implant
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Speaker 1: of some kind, giving what she recalled. And this thing
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Speaker 1: did apparently show up on some medical tests, and she
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Speaker 1: could also hear Morse like codes coming from it. So
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Speaker 1: this alleged implant was in fact removed at York County
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Speaker 1: Hospital in Newmarket and was kept safe until nineteen ninety
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Speaker 1: four until it was able to be studied by an
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Speaker 1: engineer by the name of George Hathaway. Now, this object
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Speaker 1: was about one millimeter in diameter and in an analysis
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Speaker 1: by an electron microscope revealed that it was composed of
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Speaker 1: various elements such as aluminium, titanium, and silicon, with traces
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Speaker 1: of other elements, just a little bit of iron, potassium, calcium, sulfur, chlorine, chromium,
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Speaker 1: and sodium. Now, Lawrence J. Fenwick, the editor of the
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Speaker 1: q Forn Bulletin, who studied the implant, writes that the
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Speaker 1: Dejene implant was either a transmitter or a receiver, possibly both.
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Speaker 1: Now this is pure speculation, but it's based on the
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Speaker 1: fact that these elements that were found in the implant
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Speaker 1: are used for similar human constructed devices. Certainly a compelling case,
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Speaker 1: and in fact Betty's case is one of the best investigated,
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Speaker 1: best confirmed cases of a contactee from Canada, and certainly
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Speaker 1: a really interesting case involving an et implant which was
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Speaker 1: very well studied and turned out to be quite unusual.
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Speaker 1: So an important case by all counts. And now we
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Speaker 1: moved to another case which is not very well known.
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Speaker 1: I call this one the case of Sharon Keith. She's
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Speaker 1: had several encounters, but she really only talked a lot
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Speaker 1: about one of them. This occurred in nineteen seventy five
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Speaker 1: or thereabout in Gallop, New Mexico, all driving along a
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Speaker 1: lonely highway late at night with her three daughters. This
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Speaker 1: is a multiple witness case and a very interesting one
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Speaker 1: in a number of different ways. As we shall see
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Speaker 1: sarn Keith's first sighting of a UFO occurred when she
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Speaker 1: was only eleven or twelve years old, but as she
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Speaker 1: grew up, she began to have more contact. In nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy five through nineteen seventy six, she was living in Gallop,
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Speaker 1: New Mexico, and she says it was here that she
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Speaker 1: experienced several episodes of what she calls time losses, and
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Speaker 1: each of these were about one to two hours long.
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Speaker 1: And having all these missing time experiences, finally she decided
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Speaker 1: to get some help and found doctor Leo Sprinkle, PhD.
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Speaker 1: And she went under hypnode hypnotic regression to explore the
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Speaker 1: missing time. So as one evening again somewhere around nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy five or nineteen seventy six, that she was driving
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Speaker 1: with her three young daughters across the Zuni Indian Reservation.
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Speaker 1: This is about sixty five miles outside of Gallop, New Mexico.
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Speaker 1: And I'll just let Sharon describe what happened next. As
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Speaker 1: she says, I learned through hypnosis about one experience which
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Speaker 1: I will relate to you. A light appeared behind the
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Speaker 1: car suddenly, and I knew there were no other cars here.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't find out where the light came from, but
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Speaker 1: it was tailing me very closely, I told my daughters
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Speaker 1: to turn around and see if it was a truck.
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Speaker 1: So she asked, then what is that Her daughters had
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Speaker 1: no answer. Sharon was aware that there was a lot
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Speaker 1: of alcoholism with a problem in the area. She wondered
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Speaker 1: if it was perhaps a drunk person who was tailgating her,
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Speaker 1: and needless to say, she was quite concerned about it.
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Speaker 1: So she accelerated her vehicle, finally reaching speeds of eighty
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Speaker 1: five miles per hour. But still this light, whatever it was,
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Speaker 1: remained right behind her. In fact, it was so bright
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Speaker 1: that she had to adjust both her side mirror and
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Speaker 1: her rear view mirror to block the light. Now this
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Speaker 1: is where her conscious memory ends. The next thing she
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Speaker 1: remembers is arriving in Gallop, New Mexico. So under hypnosis,
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Speaker 1: she recalled what happened. She recalled being pulled on board
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Speaker 1: a craft. She's not sure how this happened. She just
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Speaker 1: suddenly found herself inside a strange room. And again, I'll
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Speaker 1: just let Sharon describe this as she says, I know
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Speaker 1: I was in the spaceship and doors appeared instantly in
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Speaker 1: white walls. The aliens seem to get where they want
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Speaker 1: to go instantly, and they tend to move non laboriously,
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Speaker 1: and when they were going to take me through it,
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Speaker 1: an opening appeared. The wall would be a wall, for instance.
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Speaker 1: I can't explain this fact very well either. In this
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Speaker 1: round spaceship, the beings appeared to be about six feet
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Speaker 1: tall and were very pale gray white. They have heads
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Speaker 1: that are similar to ours, only a little bit rounder
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Speaker 1: in the cranial area. Their eyes large, Their noses are
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Speaker 1: small and narrow. Their ears aren't formed like ours. Their
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Speaker 1: mouths are very like a line and small. They communicate mentally.
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Speaker 1: They don't talk with their mouths like we do, but
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Speaker 1: you can understand what they are saying and what they
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Speaker 1: are telling you. I was in a separate room from
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Speaker 1: the girls. It was like a pie shaped room with
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Speaker 1: one which was very comfortable and warm. There were some
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Speaker 1: windows from which I was being viewed by other beings
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Speaker 1: about fifteen feet in front of this chair. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: see them very well because the glass was a smoky color.
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Speaker 1: The being who guided me had a close fitting suit
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Speaker 1: similar to what we know of as tights, but the
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Speaker 1: material was of a smooth texture. They had cloaks on
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Speaker 1: that were clasped at the neck with a bright round
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Speaker 1: nuclear symbol with the star of David in the middle
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Speaker 1: and a hood that was also attached. I was worried
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Speaker 1: about my daughters, so one alien took me to two
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Speaker 1: other rooms just like the one I was in and
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Speaker 1: showed me that they were all right. Both girls appeared
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Speaker 1: to be asleep in chairs just like the one I
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Speaker 1: had been in. My guide then took me back to
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Speaker 1: the room I had previously been in and they did
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Speaker 1: some kind of testing to me that felt like my
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Speaker 1: body was being pulled apart. Now, Charon says, a lot
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Speaker 1: more happened. There was a lot more detail to this.
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Speaker 1: She didn't really want to share it, but at some point,
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Speaker 1: the next thing she knew, she and her daughters were
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Speaker 1: back in the car, arriving in Gallop, and it was
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Speaker 1: now one and a half hours later. Sharon does say
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Speaker 1: that the encounter changed her life immensely and that ultimately
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Speaker 1: it was a very positive experience. As Sharon says, my
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Speaker 1: religious beliefs have become much stronger because I know that
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Speaker 1: the universe is so enormous. You know that there are
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Speaker 1: other galaxies, other plants, and other life. They are not
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Speaker 1: here to harm us. I feel a lot of love
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Speaker 1: in my heart and compassion for many people, anybody that
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Speaker 1: I can help. My attitude towards life has changed drastically
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Speaker 1: since my experience. I'm much more positive. I know I
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Speaker 1: can accomplish anything I want to, and the Supreme Being
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Speaker 1: is my guide. It is nice to see everybody here
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Speaker 1: and know that I am not the only one who
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Speaker 1: has had strange expres experiences with UFO people. So Sharon
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Speaker 1: revealed this all publicly at the Rocky Mountain UFO conference
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Speaker 1: organized by Leo Sprinkle. A lot of people who are
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Speaker 1: having experiences spoke there, and Sharon decided not to undergo
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Speaker 1: any further hypnotic regressions, not because she was afraid or
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Speaker 1: anything like that. She said her life was just too busy.
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Speaker 1: I have to give kudos to Sharon Keif for going
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Speaker 1: public at a time when this subject was receiving quite
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Speaker 1: a bit of ridicule. She did allow her real name
22:34
Speaker 1: to be used a really interesting series of events. I
22:38
Speaker 1: do wonder what happened with her other encounters, but I
22:42
Speaker 1: certainly understand if she wants to keep those private. Yeah,
22:46
Speaker 1: I'm glad she did step forward. I think so many
22:49
Speaker 1: people are having these experiences. A lot of them have
22:52
Speaker 1: no recourse. They feel quite alone. But the fact is
22:56
Speaker 1: this is a lot more common than most people realize.
23:00
Speaker 1: And now let's move to our next case, which did
23:02
Speaker 1: actually receive quite a bit of attention, certainly in the
23:06
Speaker 1: country where it took place, of Brazil. And I call
23:09
Speaker 1: this one the case of Herminio and Bianca Reese. You
23:14
Speaker 1: may have heard of it before, I don't know, but
23:17
Speaker 1: I think if you haven't, you will certainly find it compelling.
23:20
Speaker 1: This took place the main incident on January twelfth, nineteen
23:25
Speaker 1: seventy six, not far from Mattias Barbosa, Brazil. This is
23:30
Speaker 1: another one of those encounters that occurred while they're driving
23:34
Speaker 1: along a lonely highway late at night. It's certainly a
23:38
Speaker 1: compelling case, involving multiple witnesses and a whole lot of information,
23:44
Speaker 1: and of course not just one encounter, but many. This
23:48
Speaker 1: next case involves a married couple by the name of
23:51
Speaker 1: Herminio Reese. He's an evangelical pastor and his wife, Biance
23:57
Speaker 1: de Oliviera. They woke up early on the morning of
24:02
Speaker 1: January twelve, nineteen seventy six, and while eating breakfast, decided
24:06
Speaker 1: that they would drive from their home in Minus Jeris, Brazil,
24:11
Speaker 1: and travel to Belo Horizonte to sell their old car.
24:15
Speaker 1: It was a sporty carmen Gia, so this ended up
24:18
Speaker 1: being an all day trip. They were returning home along
24:22
Speaker 1: the Rio Deja Naro Belo Horizonte highway and it was
24:26
Speaker 1: around eleven thirty pm. They had just passed through Pera
24:29
Speaker 1: Buna when Herminio, who was driving, began to feel strangely
24:34
Speaker 1: and excessively tired and sleepy, so they decided to pull
24:38
Speaker 1: off the highway while Herminio dozed and Bianco stayed awake,
24:42
Speaker 1: smoking a cigarette and keeping watch to make sure nothing happened.
24:47
Speaker 1: And it was after about fifteen minutes that Biance noticed
24:51
Speaker 1: a light moving from one side of the sky to another.
24:55
Speaker 1: At the same time, she said, this weird, all encompassing
24:59
Speaker 1: dead silence. It fell over the area. So she's looking
25:03
Speaker 1: at this light and she thought at first that it
25:05
Speaker 1: might be a balloon of some kind, but it was
25:07
Speaker 1: glowing this intense orange, and it was moving in and
25:10
Speaker 1: out of the clouds. It seemed pretty far away at first,
25:14
Speaker 1: so she didn't think too much of it, but then
25:16
Speaker 1: it disappeared, and it suddenly reappeared much closer. Very suddenly,
25:21
Speaker 1: it looked like it was an aircraft about to crash
25:24
Speaker 1: into them, so she screamed out to her husband, Herminio. Herminio,
25:30
Speaker 1: wake up, a plane is falling on our heads. So
25:35
Speaker 1: he woke up just in time for them both to
25:37
Speaker 1: see everything around them become completely black, to the point
25:41
Speaker 1: that they couldn't even see themselves or each other. Their
25:45
Speaker 1: car seemed to move and shake a little bit, and
25:47
Speaker 1: then very suddenly a blinding, bright beam of blue white
25:52
Speaker 1: light appeared around them, and the couple felt as if
25:56
Speaker 1: they were being quote absorbed up into it, as if
25:59
Speaker 1: through it chimney. Moments later, they found themselves in a
26:03
Speaker 1: brightly lit round room, which they described as a quote
26:08
Speaker 1: kind of circular garage about seventy feet wide. They were
26:12
Speaker 1: still sitting in their car. They did see another car
26:15
Speaker 1: inside by the way, So as soon as they found
26:18
Speaker 1: themselves there, this little kind of door or opening appeared
26:23
Speaker 1: in the ceiling above them, and two tall men appeared
26:27
Speaker 1: and floated down to the car. They were human looking.
26:31
Speaker 1: They had slanted green eyes, black hair, darkish skin, were
26:35
Speaker 1: quite tall, about six feet maybe six inches. They were
26:39
Speaker 1: very similar looking, almost like twins, they said, and They
26:44
Speaker 1: were both dressed in seamless white jumpsuits. These two figures
26:49
Speaker 1: were very cordial, very friendly and smiling, and they began
26:52
Speaker 1: to help hermin Neo out of the car. Bianca didn't
26:55
Speaker 1: want to get out, but they got her out as well.
26:59
Speaker 1: The couple was under standably surprised and quite frightened. The
27:03
Speaker 1: two men were speaking to them in an incomprehensible language,
27:07
Speaker 1: and both Bianca and herm Neo started the panic. Bianca
27:12
Speaker 1: started screaming at them, what do you want, what do
27:14
Speaker 1: you want, while her husband, herm Neo, kept saying, it's
27:18
Speaker 1: a mistake. It's a mistake. He said, he felt almost
27:22
Speaker 1: as if they were in some kind of crazy dream,
27:25
Speaker 1: and in fact, he tried to call on Jesus to
27:28
Speaker 1: make these figures go away, and did this for quite
27:31
Speaker 1: some time. It didn't work. The ets did not react
27:35
Speaker 1: to it. They just kind of stared at him. It
27:38
Speaker 1: took quite some time to calm them down, but they
27:41
Speaker 1: did come down, at which point one of the men
27:45
Speaker 1: stepped on this little button on the floor and the
27:48
Speaker 1: staircase or elevator type device appeared, and the med The
27:53
Speaker 1: men led the couple up into another room. Now they
27:58
Speaker 1: gave them these small silver headsets or headphones to put on.
28:02
Speaker 1: One of the other men also wore one of these
28:04
Speaker 1: devices and seemed to attach it to another instrument of
28:08
Speaker 1: some kind, adjusted a few dials, and then suddenly the
28:11
Speaker 1: men began to speak in their language and said, I
28:16
Speaker 1: am Koran. Calm down now, this is a very complicated incident.
28:23
Speaker 1: A lot happened. According to the Rhess, this small craft
28:28
Speaker 1: reportedly went into a larger mothership, which the couple exited.
28:32
Speaker 1: They saw other craft the same size, and this being
28:36
Speaker 1: began to explain that they were from a distant planet
28:39
Speaker 1: they called Clermer actually showed them a star map of
28:42
Speaker 1: some kind which showed their planet in others, and this
28:46
Speaker 1: being began to discuss very deep philosophical concepts to them,
28:51
Speaker 1: all about religion, creation, contact with humans, all kinds of topics.
28:57
Speaker 1: They said that on their world they had overcome the
28:59
Speaker 1: problem of aging, which was treated like a disease, that
29:03
Speaker 1: when they died, they just left the body and retained
29:06
Speaker 1: all their memories and moved into a new body. They
29:09
Speaker 1: said they had no religion, no money, no wars. At
29:13
Speaker 1: one point, one of the beings asked Bianca if she
29:17
Speaker 1: would submit to being physically examined what she did, She
29:22
Speaker 1: was placed in a box like device which turned red
29:25
Speaker 1: and became filled with kind of the static electric charge.
29:29
Speaker 1: This caused her to temporarily lose consciousness, she said. They
29:33
Speaker 1: proceeded to examine her skin, her ears, her eyes, and
29:38
Speaker 1: when she woke up, she was then taken out of
29:39
Speaker 1: that and put into a form fitting chair, what she
29:43
Speaker 1: said actually would convert to a sort of table or bed.
29:47
Speaker 1: At some point they were offered this soft, tasteless bread.
29:51
Speaker 1: They were asked to drink a thick green liquid, which
29:55
Speaker 1: they said had an unpleasant taste. At one point, more
29:59
Speaker 1: anti appeared, all of the same general appearance. One was
30:03
Speaker 1: a tall female with dark hair and large dark eyes.
30:08
Speaker 1: Now Herminio asked Karen why the ets didn't communicate with
30:13
Speaker 1: the people of Earth and help them with their problems,
30:17
Speaker 1: and Karen pointed to himself and said, am I not here?
30:21
Speaker 1: And then he gestured at the craft and the other
30:23
Speaker 1: entities around them and said are we not here? So
30:27
Speaker 1: Harrminio asked many questions and asked if Karen could teach
30:32
Speaker 1: them something that could be shared with all of humanity
30:35
Speaker 1: that would help alleviate all the suffering that is taking
30:38
Speaker 1: place on Earth, and Karen explained what he called quote
30:43
Speaker 1: conscious unfolding techniques, and these involved three main steps. Now,
30:52
Speaker 1: the first is hyperventilation breathing exercises, which Karen said would
30:56
Speaker 1: help aid cellular and cerebral regeneration. The second, he said,
31:02
Speaker 1: is to develop the pituitary and pineal glands to increase
31:06
Speaker 1: self awareness and psychic awareness, and the third was to
31:10
Speaker 1: awaken specific points in the brain to allow for conscious
31:14
Speaker 1: astral projection. Now, as the experience came to an end,
31:19
Speaker 1: they were told not to speak about their experiences to
31:22
Speaker 1: other people who would likely think they were crazy, and
31:25
Speaker 1: the ETS said that they did have a method that
31:28
Speaker 1: would cause them to forget. Bianca said that she wanted
31:32
Speaker 1: to remember and asked the ETS not to make them forget,
31:36
Speaker 1: and this was a request which they granted. The couple
31:39
Speaker 1: was then taken back to their car and returned to
31:41
Speaker 1: the highway. They drove home in silence. Bit by bit,
31:46
Speaker 1: they began to talk about the experience. This took a
31:50
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. They shared it with others later and
31:54
Speaker 1: as they got more comfortable with it, they began to
31:55
Speaker 1: appear on radio and TV, and they actually began to
31:58
Speaker 1: teach the technique to others that were talked to them
32:02
Speaker 1: by the ets. Now, Bianca believes that the ets didn't
32:07
Speaker 1: implant her, which allowed her to remain in communication with Karen,
32:12
Speaker 1: and apparently she was the focus of contact, not so
32:15
Speaker 1: much her husband, and she started to get telepathic messages
32:19
Speaker 1: to go to certain areas and sure enough the craft
32:22
Speaker 1: would arrive and she would be taken on board. So
32:26
Speaker 1: this happened a number of times. On one occasion she
32:29
Speaker 1: asked to bring friends, and the being told her, well,
32:32
Speaker 1: you can bring some friends, but not the ones you're
32:35
Speaker 1: talking about. They're not your friends. They're trying to take
32:38
Speaker 1: advantage of you, and gave her some advice on this.
32:41
Speaker 1: So at some point, yes, she was able to take
32:43
Speaker 1: a couple of other friends on board, one who was
32:47
Speaker 1: allegedly healed. She said that she also met one of
32:52
Speaker 1: the ets who was living at least temporarily on Earth,
32:56
Speaker 1: but looked very much the same as the other beings
32:58
Speaker 1: she saw. She said at some point she was given
33:02
Speaker 1: a major revelation of some kind, which apparently she has
33:06
Speaker 1: not yet talked about. But their case is quite extensive,
33:10
Speaker 1: and in fact, researcher Wendell Stevens ended up co authoring
33:14
Speaker 1: a book on the case called UFO Contact from Clermer.
33:20
Speaker 1: How amazing is that it's so interesting to me that
33:23
Speaker 1: in so many of these cases people talk about the
33:26
Speaker 1: after effects of having experiencing a bunch of psychic events.
33:35
Speaker 1: So that I think is a really important takeaway from
33:38
Speaker 1: cases like these. An encounter is often somewhat spiritually enlightening
33:43
Speaker 1: to some degree. That's certainly the pattern we see in
33:46
Speaker 1: so many cases. And now we move to another one
33:50
Speaker 1: that's super interesting, primarily because of its location. Iran. We
33:54
Speaker 1: just don't get a lot of cases from there, and
33:57
Speaker 1: I suspect there are many we just don't hear about them.
34:01
Speaker 1: But this one is called the case of Gulam Raisa Basarrani,
34:06
Speaker 1: and it took place on April second, nineteen seventy six
34:10
Speaker 1: near Shhalu, Iran and got a lot of attention because
34:14
Speaker 1: it turns out the primary witness came from a pretty
34:18
Speaker 1: upstanding family, and there's some really unusual elements to this case.
34:25
Speaker 1: As we shall see, it is somewhat brief compared to
34:28
Speaker 1: the other cases. We don't have a whole lot of information,
34:31
Speaker 1: but it certainly deserves to be known. This very unusual
34:35
Speaker 1: case occurred on April second, nineteen seventy six, which at
34:40
Speaker 1: that year was actually an Iranian holiday called his Day Badar.
34:45
Speaker 1: This marks the end of the Iranian New year, and
34:48
Speaker 1: it's all about celebrating nature. The main witness was a
34:52
Speaker 1: nineteen year old teenager by the name of Golam Raisa Basargani.
34:58
Speaker 1: He's the member of a wealthy family in Chhalou, Iran,
35:01
Speaker 1: and he had gone hiking into the nearby woods and
35:04
Speaker 1: suddenly disappeared without a trace. Naturally, his family called the police.
35:10
Speaker 1: There was a huge search organized to find him, but
35:15
Speaker 1: they could not find him anywhere. And then two days later,
35:19
Speaker 1: Golam was found some hundreds of miles to the south
35:23
Speaker 1: in the city of Isfahan, and Golam had quite a
35:28
Speaker 1: story to tell. He said that while he was walking
35:31
Speaker 1: alone in the forest, a ufo appeared overhead, flew directly
35:35
Speaker 1: towards him, stopped right over his head. He was unable
35:38
Speaker 1: to move as four beings appeared. According to some sources,
35:42
Speaker 1: they had big noses and kind of greenish lips. Could
35:46
Speaker 1: not confirm that, but he says they came out of
35:48
Speaker 1: the craft on sort of a silver ladder and pulled
35:51
Speaker 1: him on board, and Golam now found himself inside an
35:54
Speaker 1: oval shaped room in front of a strange instrument of
35:58
Speaker 1: some kind. He couldn't really describe it, he says. They
36:02
Speaker 1: passed various colored lights over his body as these strange
36:06
Speaker 1: beings scrutinized him. After just a few moments of this,
36:10
Speaker 1: he lost consciousness, and, as Golam says in his own words,
36:15
Speaker 1: the next thing I remember is that I woke up
36:17
Speaker 1: back on Earth early in the morning, not in the
36:20
Speaker 1: lush Caspiana forests, but surrounded by baron lands. So he
36:25
Speaker 1: didn't know where he was. He had to hike his
36:28
Speaker 1: way back to civilization and found that he was, in
36:30
Speaker 1: fact in Isfahan. This is about two hundred and eighty
36:33
Speaker 1: five miles south of Chilouse where he was taken, so
36:38
Speaker 1: he immediately contacted the local police. He was taken to
36:41
Speaker 1: the Red Lion and Sun Hospital in Isfahan and examined
36:45
Speaker 1: by doctors and psychologists. After one day of this, he
36:50
Speaker 1: was given a clean bill of health, both physically and mentally,
36:54
Speaker 1: and he returned back to his home in Chalous. Now
36:57
Speaker 1: there were some people who were skeptical of his but
37:01
Speaker 1: authorities said that on the day of Golam's return, numerous
37:05
Speaker 1: people from the villages of Marbin and then Jean, which
37:10
Speaker 1: outlie the Isfahan city, they called the police to report
37:14
Speaker 1: their sightings of a flying saucer, quite a few of them. Now,
37:20
Speaker 1: the only lasting symptom that Golam reported was that his
37:23
Speaker 1: wrist watch, which he had been wearing at the time
37:26
Speaker 1: he was taken on board, was missing after the encounter.
37:30
Speaker 1: I do wish there was more information in that case,
37:33
Speaker 1: but certainly compelling and I think quite a good amount
37:37
Speaker 1: of corroboration, given that so many people saw UFOs in
37:41
Speaker 1: the area at the time that he was being apparently
37:45
Speaker 1: returned to a location somewhat distant from where he was taken,
37:50
Speaker 1: which is also quite unusual. A really interesting case. And
37:54
Speaker 1: I have to wonder what happened to his watch, if
37:57
Speaker 1: it's still up there on a craft somewhere. I don't know,
38:00
Speaker 1: but so fascinating detail. And now we moved to the
38:04
Speaker 1: next case. This one definitely deserves more attention. It's a
38:08
Speaker 1: really interesting case. This I call the case of Miguel
38:14
Speaker 1: Herrero Sierra. It's a fascinating on board experience which occurred
38:19
Speaker 1: on December eighteenth, nineteen seventy seven in a rural area
38:24
Speaker 1: of Tendia, Spain. Again another case of someone being taken
38:28
Speaker 1: along a highway that's somewhat remote and a fascinating case
38:34
Speaker 1: with a lot of information to it. The sole witness
38:37
Speaker 1: to this case is Miguel Herrero Sierra. He's a thirty
38:42
Speaker 1: seven year old driver an entrepreneur who on December eighteen,
38:46
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, decided to take a fishing trip. Fishing
38:49
Speaker 1: is one of his favorite hobbies. At the time of
38:52
Speaker 1: his experience, he lived in Alcala, Spain. This is not
38:55
Speaker 1: far from Madrid and it was around five point thirty
38:58
Speaker 1: am that he got into his pickup and began the
39:02
Speaker 1: long drive to the Buendia reservoirs. This is his favorite
39:06
Speaker 1: fishing spot, so after driving for over an hour, he
39:10
Speaker 1: was near Tendea. It was actually at the intersection of
39:14
Speaker 1: the Penolver Road as you can see here, when suddenly
39:19
Speaker 1: the headlights, radio and engine of his vehicle all simultaneously
39:23
Speaker 1: shut off. He did manage to pull over off the road.
39:28
Speaker 1: He got out and checked his truck, couldn't find anything wrong.
39:31
Speaker 1: It was still dark, so he decided to wait until
39:34
Speaker 1: dawn to see if he could get help. So as
39:38
Speaker 1: he's sitting there in his truck, this is when he
39:40
Speaker 1: noticed a huge shadow in the field next to him,
39:44
Speaker 1: about three hundred feet away, and he wondered briefly if
39:47
Speaker 1: it could be a house. But the thing is, he
39:49
Speaker 1: knew this area. He knew there was no house in
39:52
Speaker 1: that location. And this is when suddenly a brilliant beam
39:56
Speaker 1: of light came from that object and shone directly on
39:59
Speaker 1: his car. And at the same time he heard someone
40:02
Speaker 1: shout out, hey, mister, the one with the pickup. So
40:07
Speaker 1: this confused him a little bit. He wondered if perhaps
40:09
Speaker 1: there had been an accident of some kind. So he
40:12
Speaker 1: exited his truck and began to slowly approach this object.
40:17
Speaker 1: And as he got closer, he said, he smelled this
40:19
Speaker 1: very strange penetrating piny odor that grew very strong stronger
40:24
Speaker 1: as he approached, and became so strong it finally caused
40:28
Speaker 1: him to become nauseous and dizzy, so much so that
40:31
Speaker 1: he fell to the ground. He was now dazed, semi conscious,
40:35
Speaker 1: unable to move, he says, when he saw two men
40:39
Speaker 1: approaching him from about one hundred and fifty feet away,
40:42
Speaker 1: he noticed immediately that they were dressed strangely in what
40:45
Speaker 1: he described as a diver's suit. Now, these two men
40:50
Speaker 1: spoke to each other in an incomprehensible language. They then
40:54
Speaker 1: grabbed Miguel's arms tightly and led him into the craft.
41:00
Speaker 1: He now saw that this craft was floating just a
41:02
Speaker 1: few feet in the air. It did have what looked
41:05
Speaker 1: like a cylinder of some kind extending out from the
41:07
Speaker 1: bottom center and leading to the ground. And what happened
41:13
Speaker 1: next actually took him a few weeks after the experience
41:16
Speaker 1: to consciously recall that he did remember. He remembered that
41:20
Speaker 1: he was led inside this cylinder into a doorway and
41:24
Speaker 1: suddenly found himself inside a room which was quite large,
41:27
Speaker 1: about forty five feet wide, says The walls looked quite strange,
41:31
Speaker 1: almost crystal or plastic like. He saw a circular central area,
41:37
Speaker 1: which he believed might have been the cockpit or the
41:39
Speaker 1: control center. He saw transparent looking counters, a bed area,
41:45
Speaker 1: what looked like small metal cabinets, some consoles with lights
41:49
Speaker 1: and levers, a computer like screen, a lot of stuff
41:52
Speaker 1: that he had difficulty describing. And he found out that
41:57
Speaker 1: the ets were able to turn the walls of the
41:59
Speaker 1: craft transparent, so I'll just quote Miguel directly, as he says,
42:05
Speaker 1: two men dressed in white were coming towards me. I
42:08
Speaker 1: didn't lose consciousness, but I was unable to walk until
42:12
Speaker 1: they took me by the arms. I remember that just
42:15
Speaker 1: before entering, a sort of sliding door opened. The entire
42:19
Speaker 1: underside of the artifact lit up in a deep white light.
42:24
Speaker 1: Once inside, nothing and no one held me. But although
42:29
Speaker 1: I was already strong and the tension was through the roof,
42:32
Speaker 1: I could not move or articulate any word. Amazingly, when
42:37
Speaker 1: I was inside, I understood everything they were talking about.
42:42
Speaker 1: So inside he saw a lot of these figures, about
42:45
Speaker 1: sixteen of them, which he said, quote had such a
42:49
Speaker 1: similar appearance to us that if they had been dressed differently,
42:53
Speaker 1: they could have gone unnoticed anywhere on earth. And for
42:58
Speaker 1: the next three hours, he can I communicated telepathically with
43:01
Speaker 1: the ets, as Miguel says, I hadn't really spoken a
43:06
Speaker 1: word since I left the car, and they were not
43:09
Speaker 1: emitting any sound either. Yet I could hear their words
43:12
Speaker 1: in my ears as if we were having a normal conversation.
43:17
Speaker 1: So he's talking about telepathy here. Didn't quite understand what
43:21
Speaker 1: that was. Apparently, but as he says, I also remember
43:25
Speaker 1: that at a certain moment, when I was trying to
43:27
Speaker 1: assimilate everything that was happening and an endless number of
43:31
Speaker 1: questions invaded my mind, one of them turned around and,
43:35
Speaker 1: looking me in the eye, said, without saying a word,
43:38
Speaker 1: don't make an effort to understand, because if no one
43:41
Speaker 1: explains it to you, you will never understand it. So
43:45
Speaker 1: they were just trying to calm him down because he
43:48
Speaker 1: was becoming mentally overwhelmed. Then suddenly, with no memory of
43:52
Speaker 1: how he got there, he found himself outside the craft.
43:56
Speaker 1: He did notice a small puncture in his arm, as
43:59
Speaker 1: if he had been given a blood test, though he
44:01
Speaker 1: had no conscious memory of this. The entire experience he'd
44:05
Speaker 1: learned lasted about three hours, and while he did have
44:09
Speaker 1: some memory of the onboard experience come back to him naturally,
44:13
Speaker 1: he could only recall about fifteen minutes of it, so
44:17
Speaker 1: there was still much that he couldn't recall, and later,
44:21
Speaker 1: after talking to researchers, he did elect to go under
44:24
Speaker 1: hypnosis to see if he could recall more details, and
44:27
Speaker 1: he did. He says that the ets told him that
44:31
Speaker 1: the Great Pyramids of Egypt were in fact designed by extraterrestrials.
44:36
Speaker 1: They told him that there was an old, abandoned ET
44:39
Speaker 1: base in the Bermuda Triangle. They told him they could
44:42
Speaker 1: make their ships invisible at will. They told him that
44:46
Speaker 1: they did not need weapons of any kind, as they
44:49
Speaker 1: could create a magnetic field around their ship which would
44:52
Speaker 1: prevent anyone or anything from getting too close. Anything that
44:56
Speaker 1: could bring any danger to them, they said, But they
45:00
Speaker 1: had been visiting Earth for thousands of years, and if
45:03
Speaker 1: they were sharing genetics with Earth humans, He did see
45:07
Speaker 1: a weird panel on the ship consciously recalled that, but
45:11
Speaker 1: under hypnosis did see what looked like weird Russian like
45:15
Speaker 1: symbols on them, and he also recalled something else quite odd.
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Speaker 1: One of the crew members looked almost exactly like himself,
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Speaker 1: so that really confused him. He tried to reach out
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Speaker 1: and touch this man, but the others warned him not
45:30
Speaker 1: to do that. But it was at this time that
45:33
Speaker 1: Miguel says he became so overcome that he felt his
45:37
Speaker 1: nerves were going to explode. And this is when one
45:39
Speaker 1: of the Ets turned towards him and told him not
45:42
Speaker 1: to make an effort to understand at this time. So
45:46
Speaker 1: that's basically his experience. The only other real after effect
45:51
Speaker 1: is Miguel says that following his encounter, he started to
45:55
Speaker 1: develop all kinds of psychic abilities. So many interesting details
46:00
Speaker 1: in that case, the fact that he says the ets
46:02
Speaker 1: looked pretty much exactly like us and could have walked
46:05
Speaker 1: undetected if dressed in different clothes. And there we have
46:10
Speaker 1: that pattern again where he comes away from his experiences
46:13
Speaker 1: and starts having all these psychic events happen. Super interesting.
46:19
Speaker 1: And now we move to the final case of this
46:22
Speaker 1: little collection here. I call this one the case of Helen.
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Speaker 1: We don't know her last name. She has elected to
46:29
Speaker 1: be anonymous. Certainly understandable this case occurred. Actually it's a
46:36
Speaker 1: series of events through January and February of nineteen ninety
46:41
Speaker 1: two in Maso, Berni, Hungary. And this is a fascinating
46:46
Speaker 1: case with some really interesting physiological effects because apparently this
46:51
Speaker 1: witness was healed. I love these kinds of cases. It's
46:56
Speaker 1: very encouraging and I think you'll find this case quite compelling.
47:00
Speaker 1: This case was investigated by laslow Kiss of the Hungarian
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Speaker 1: u f O Research Network or HOOFAN. The main witness
47:08
Speaker 1: is Helen. This is apparently a pseudonym now. On January
47:13
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, nineteen ninety two, Helen, who was fifty years
47:16
Speaker 1: old at the time of her encounter, she was in
47:19
Speaker 1: the kitchen when she saw something very strange, a dull,
47:23
Speaker 1: black kind of egg shaped quote something was blue gray
47:27
Speaker 1: on top. It had a vertical orange striped on the center.
47:30
Speaker 1: It seemed to vibrate. She had very much difficulty describing this,
47:35
Speaker 1: but she said it made a quote strong snorting sound
47:38
Speaker 1: as it moved across the kitchen and into another room.
47:42
Speaker 1: Now next to this orange stripe that she saw, Helen
47:45
Speaker 1: did see the face of a woman looking out at her.
47:49
Speaker 1: And Helen's husband was with her during this time, but
47:52
Speaker 1: he was looking in the other direction, and when this
47:55
Speaker 1: thing appeared, Helen found herself unable to speak to alert him.
48:00
Speaker 1: But after it moved into the other room, she followed
48:03
Speaker 1: and there was nothing there. She told her husband, but
48:06
Speaker 1: he did not believe her. But weird events had just begun,
48:10
Speaker 1: because it was that night, around six thirty p m.
48:13
Speaker 1: That she suddenly became overcome with tiredness and decided to
48:17
Speaker 1: go to bed early. Her husband was watching TV in
48:20
Speaker 1: the same room when suddenly Helen heard a woman's voice
48:24
Speaker 1: say lift your arm. What she did, She says she
48:29
Speaker 1: immediately felt a strong twinge of pain on her elbow
48:32
Speaker 1: and was following this, she felt compelled to walk out
48:36
Speaker 1: into the back yard. What she did. She was dressed
48:39
Speaker 1: only in her nightgown. She went outside and saw a
48:42
Speaker 1: large egg shaped object which had landed in her yard,
48:47
Speaker 1: and she went in side of it. She was surprised
48:49
Speaker 1: to see a wide, gray room. There was nothing in
48:52
Speaker 1: it was completely empty of any furniture or people, though
48:56
Speaker 1: she did see a doorway at the far end. She
48:59
Speaker 1: apparently had a lap some consciousness because the next thing
49:01
Speaker 1: she knew she was in this same room, only was
49:04
Speaker 1: now filled with people. She said, there were about ten
49:07
Speaker 1: or fifteen children, all young, about age ten to thirteen,
49:12
Speaker 1: and they were all standing on the right side of
49:14
Speaker 1: the room. On the left side of the room, she said,
49:16
Speaker 1: we're about eight to ten women who were all around
49:19
Speaker 1: her age, and in fact, Helen recognized one of the
49:23
Speaker 1: women from her neighborhood. All of the people in the room,
49:27
Speaker 1: including Helen, had no clothes on, so she does not
49:30
Speaker 1: know how this happened. But at this point Helen walked
49:33
Speaker 1: to the doorway at the end of the room, and
49:36
Speaker 1: that's the last thing she consciously remembered. Her next memory
49:40
Speaker 1: was feeling a pain in her stomach and laying down
49:42
Speaker 1: in bed and getting up, she saw it was now
49:46
Speaker 1: nine thirty PM, three hours later than it had been.
49:49
Speaker 1: Her husband was still watching TV. He noticed nothing unusual.
49:53
Speaker 1: When Helen woke up the next morning, she said she
49:56
Speaker 1: felt minor pain and pressure on the upper part of
49:58
Speaker 1: her belly. Didn't think much of it, went to work,
50:03
Speaker 1: and the next night went to bed early, and that
50:06
Speaker 1: night she said she had a repeat on board encounter
50:09
Speaker 1: with pretty much all the same details, and the same
50:12
Speaker 1: thing happened on the third night. But it was on
50:16
Speaker 1: Thursday night that Helen examined her body and was shocked
50:20
Speaker 1: to see several round spots, each about the size of
50:23
Speaker 1: a silver dollar, on her abdomen and upper chest. You
50:27
Speaker 1: can see a photograph of them here. She said there
50:30
Speaker 1: was no pain, no itching, or sensitivity of any kind.
50:35
Speaker 1: She did find what looked like four needle marks on
50:37
Speaker 1: the outer part of her elbows, which did exhibit some
50:41
Speaker 1: minor pain and burning sensations. She said she also had
50:45
Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble breathing for a short time,
50:48
Speaker 1: but after seven days, these marks were still there, so
50:51
Speaker 1: she was concerned and went to the doctor, told him
50:54
Speaker 1: what happened, showed him the marks on her body. He
50:58
Speaker 1: was very much puzzled and sent her to see a
51:00
Speaker 1: dermatologist who was also puzzled. He could not explain the marks,
51:05
Speaker 1: but he just prescribed a medical cream. But here's where
51:10
Speaker 1: it gets really interesting. There was an amazing and very
51:12
Speaker 1: positive development. Helen found that her general health began to approve,
51:18
Speaker 1: began to improve in a few areas. At the time
51:22
Speaker 1: of her encounters, she was suffering from vericos veins and
51:27
Speaker 1: very poor hearing in her left ear. But following her encounters,
51:32
Speaker 1: her vericos veins disappeared and she regained her hearing in
51:36
Speaker 1: her left ear. So that was it. Her encounters were over.
51:40
Speaker 1: There was one final strange event two weeks later. At
51:44
Speaker 1: three thirty am on February eleven, nineteen ninety two, Helen
51:49
Speaker 1: woke up to see her husband standing in a very
51:52
Speaker 1: odd posture. He was holding one arm up, who was
51:56
Speaker 1: using his other arm to hold his sleeve up as
51:59
Speaker 1: if he was for an injection in his arm. This
52:03
Speaker 1: puzzled and concerned her. She tried to wake him up,
52:05
Speaker 1: but he was in a trance of some kind. She
52:07
Speaker 1: could not wake him up. She was able to get
52:10
Speaker 1: him to put his arm down, and that was it.
52:13
Speaker 1: So there you go. True, not a whole lot of
52:16
Speaker 1: information to that case. Still many questions surrounding it. But
52:19
Speaker 1: she was apparently healed of both vericos veins and partial deafness.
52:25
Speaker 1: Really interesting. I have to wonder if her husband was involved,
52:30
Speaker 1: just given what she described, though he has no memory
52:32
Speaker 1: of this. It's certainly interesting and it makes you wonder
52:37
Speaker 1: how many people have these events and just never talk
52:39
Speaker 1: about them, because the closer to the encounter, the less
52:44
Speaker 1: likely it is for a witness to come forward because
52:47
Speaker 1: of all the ridicule and skepticism and disbelief surrounding this subject.
52:52
Speaker 1: Such a shame, but as you can see, these cases
52:57
Speaker 1: have occurred all over the world for a very long time.
53:01
Speaker 1: I think I understand skepticism. I was skeptical for many years.
53:07
Speaker 1: But if you just leave your beliefs behind your preconceptions
53:11
Speaker 1: and take a look at the evidence, I think you'll
53:14
Speaker 1: find it extremely persuasive. I mean, there's no doubt something
53:18
Speaker 1: is going on. I think the evidence is at this
53:21
Speaker 1: point conclusive. We are being visited. We are not alone.
53:25
Speaker 1: The universe is not empty. Many many people are being
53:30
Speaker 1: taken on board craft and having all kinds of amazing experiences.
53:36
Speaker 1: So that's the episode for today. I really want to
53:39
Speaker 1: thank you for watching. It's because of all you guys
53:41
Speaker 1: out there that I do these episodes, do all this research,
53:45
Speaker 1: working so hard to find these cases. But I'm having fun.
53:49
Speaker 1: I hope you are too, So until next time, keep
53:52
Speaker 1: asking those hard questions. The answers are there, Keep searching
53:56
Speaker 1: for the truth. It's up to you to find it.
53:59
Speaker 1: And most important of all, keep having fun because that's
54:02
Speaker 1: why we're here. And I will see you next week.
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Speaker 1: Until then, by for now,