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Credlin | 2 December · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Petero Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Great to have your company as we kick
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Speaker 2: off what I suspect will be a busy couple of weeks.
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Speaker 2: Says we run down to Christmas. Let's have a look
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Speaker 2: at the top stories tonight. Coming up on the program.
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Speaker 2: New analysis out today shows just how crook the federal
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Speaker 2: budget really is, with good luck not good management, masking
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Speaker 2: the issues until now, but that luck is running out.
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Speaker 2: It's going to play into election timing. I have that
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Speaker 2: damning assessment from the economist Chris Richardson. Coming up, we'll
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Speaker 2: also to talk with Polster former labor strategist Cos Samarus
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Speaker 2: as the PM continues to struggle with voters and that
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Speaker 2: attempt to by Liberal campaigners to frame the Teals as
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Speaker 2: a green left con job. Plus, despite saying he'd never
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Speaker 2: pard his son blamed up, President Joe Biden has done
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Speaker 2: just that. Wipe me out Hunter's tax and gun chargers
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Speaker 2: just weeks before the sentencing. Swift backlash today after major
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Speaker 2: pub chain tried to ban Australia Day It's some two
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Speaker 2: hundred venues nationwide. It designed that big corporates have learnt
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Speaker 2: nothing from the defeat of the voice.
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Speaker 3: We're getting sick and tired of the corporates telling us,
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Speaker 3: you know, what to do and what not to do,
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Speaker 3: even to their star. I'm sure there's a few of
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Speaker 3: their star who want to celebrate Australia. Well, they're not
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Speaker 3: allowed to do it now.
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Speaker 2: First, of course, you know next month it's Australia Day,
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Speaker 2: and it seems already the confected guilt and hand ringing
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Speaker 2: has started early now, as you would expect, it's coming
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Speaker 2: from corporates and elites who didn't notice somehow that last
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Speaker 2: year of his sixty one percent of us voted to
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Speaker 2: leave division behind and to make the most of our
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Speaker 2: magnificent country. You think business wokesters would have learned from
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Speaker 2: the Woolworth's disaster, but like Lemmings, some so called business
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Speaker 2: leaders just can't help themselves. Earlier this year, will These
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Speaker 2: didn't just lose customers, but it lost its seat two
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Speaker 2: over its van on selling Australia Day merchandise. Its refusal
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Speaker 2: to stock Australian flags and flag themed materials was a
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Speaker 2: pathetic display of virtue signaling. Well, now a big hospitality
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Speaker 2: operator is making that same foolish mistake. The Australian Venue
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Speaker 2: Company operates some two hundred hotels, bars and function centers
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Speaker 2: across Australia, including well known pubs such as the Duke
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Speaker 2: of Wellington in Melbourne and the Regatta Hotel in Brisbane.
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Speaker 2: In a statement, the company says, quote Australia Day is
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Speaker 2: a day that causes sadness for some members of our community.
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Speaker 2: So we have decided not to specifically celebrate a day
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Speaker 2: that causes hurt for some of our patrons and our team.
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Speaker 2: And we see this exactly what's wrong with so much
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Speaker 2: of Australian woke business. Instead of focusing on being good
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Speaker 2: at making widgitsal or delivering services, management would prefer to
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Speaker 2: play politics. But there's more from the hipster, workster outfit
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Speaker 2: this pub venue Mob. After acknowledging the traditional custodians, their
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Speaker 2: website goes on and I quote we are a place
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Speaker 2: free from discrimination where everyone belongs. We respect and celebrate
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Speaker 2: the diversity of our communities, including people of all cultural
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Speaker 2: and faith backgrounds, classes, gender, sexual identities, ages, abilities, and
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Speaker 2: wait for it, we're committed to creating a safe and
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Speaker 2: welcoming space for all. A welcoming space for everyone. It
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Speaker 2: seems except the majority of us who want to celebrate
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Speaker 2: our country by celebrate our national Day. Can you imagine
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Speaker 2: an American bar taking down the Star Spangled banner on
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Speaker 2: the fourth of July because it's offensive to their slave
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Speaker 2: owning past or because Native Americans were robbed at their land.
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Speaker 2: Not a chance. They acknowledge the good and the bad
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Speaker 2: in their history, but they come together as one nation
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Speaker 2: undergot indivisible with liberty and justice for all. And that's
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Speaker 2: a quote, that last phrase of the Pledge of Allegiance
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Speaker 2: that I learnt when I went to high school in
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Speaker 2: the US, and all these years on, I can still
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Speaker 2: recall those words off by heart. Must go on his
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Speaker 2: colleague and you just Indigenous leader Warren Mundine says he's
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Speaker 2: had a gut full of corporates telling us what to
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Speaker 2: do and what to think.
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Speaker 3: We're getting sick and tired of these corporates telling us,
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Speaker 3: you know, what to do and what not to do.
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Speaker 3: You know, grow up, you know, let's let's grow up
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Speaker 3: and actually start working together at building this country and
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Speaker 3: also about and let's start dealing with the real issues.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to you just enter Price in
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Speaker 2: a moment too be began Hunter or Andrei Elder said
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Speaker 2: that Australian Venue statement wasn't I quote condescending and the
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Speaker 2: quote it's the urban lefties, the white people that are
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Speaker 2: pushing for this. Now, if this was a public company,
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Speaker 2: I say sell your shares. But actually it's owned by
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Speaker 2: a private equity outfit based in Singapore. So just like
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Speaker 2: the tens of thousands, maybe millions of us who decided
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Speaker 2: to boycott Woollies earlier this year over their pretentious, politically
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Speaker 2: correct decision to ban our flag, my best advice is
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Speaker 2: don't go to their venues because the one message that
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Speaker 2: private equity understands is a hit to their profits. Here's
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Speaker 2: a website ww dot ozvenueco dot com dot au, or
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Speaker 2: go to the sky website. All their venues are up there.
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Speaker 2: You'll know then which pubs to cross off your list. Now,
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Speaker 2: at this afternoon, this mob started scrambling to undo the
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Speaker 2: self inflicted damage its announcements caused in the past twenty
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Speaker 2: four hours, saying it was not our intention they say,
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Speaker 2: to offend anyone, and letting people know that we have
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Speaker 2: always been and always are open over Australia Day and
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Speaker 2: that we will continue to book events for patrons Now
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Speaker 2: what tripe open over Australia Day. They want to call
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Speaker 2: it Australia Day, but that I want to acknowledge it
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Speaker 2: as such. I mean, what clowns not only on'm patriotic,
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Speaker 2: but stupid as well, it would seem. Now I should
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Speaker 2: stress here that none of this is the fault of
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Speaker 2: the nine and a half thousand workers employed by this
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Speaker 2: Singaporean company. But they've been well intuly led down, as
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Speaker 2: we all have, by management. If nothing else, the swift
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Speaker 2: community reaction to this decision says everything, because we learned
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Speaker 2: with the Voice last year that the silent majority doesn't
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Speaker 2: say a majority. If it remains silent, the Australian Venue
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Speaker 2: Company anything but Australian. Let's go now of the looming
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Speaker 2: federal election, the PM says you'll hold it in May.
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Speaker 2: In May, and his spinners have managed to convince people
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Speaker 2: like my colleague Andrew Clanel that he's telling the truth.
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Speaker 4: Doing the budget, they're going later at the moment they're behind.
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Speaker 4: Their view is they'll try and get in front somehow
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Speaker 4: and they reckon extra time, will do that.
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Speaker 2: That's the song they've been singing.
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Speaker 5: Well, why would they run?
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Speaker 4: Would they run away?
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Speaker 2: For next pole, next pole. Why you see the numbers
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Speaker 2: there from Deloitte.
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Speaker 4: Well, I suspect I'll speak to more senior labor people
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Speaker 4: than yourself.
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Speaker 6: Better.
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Speaker 4: They could all be lying to me, But I think
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Speaker 4: it would be a problem for them to have during
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Speaker 4: the whole campaign. Are you running away from doing a budget?
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Speaker 2: Well, that presupposes, of course, that those labor insiders are
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Speaker 2: telling the truth. I don't believe they are. I don't
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Speaker 2: believe they're telling Andrew the truth for a moment, not
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Speaker 2: a minute. Here's why the Romanist has already briefed out
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Speaker 2: to the media. He'll be blitzing the country over summer
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Speaker 2: and as soon as the parliament finished up last week
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Speaker 2: that already started after a straighty day. Next year, the
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Speaker 2: next key to eight the calendar. It's the RBA's first
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Speaker 2: meeting for the year. This is for twenty twenty five
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Speaker 2: and that's on Tuesday, the eighteenth of February. Now, with
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Speaker 2: a little chance of a rate cut now and the
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Speaker 2: budget full of read ink that's due on the twenty
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Speaker 2: fifth of May of March, why would the government hang
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Speaker 2: around to bring down a bad budget? I mean, right
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Speaker 2: now that red ink is speculation well found of speculation,
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Speaker 2: but it's not yet confirmed. So right now the Treasurer
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Speaker 2: can sell these two budget surpluses. But once that budget
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Speaker 2: comes down in March, it confirms a decade of deficits.
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Speaker 2: So what you want to launch a bid for reelection
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Speaker 2: off the back of that? A budget drowning in debt,
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Speaker 2: when Australians are in a per capita recession, when productivity
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Speaker 2: is in the toilet, immigrations at record levels. You want
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Speaker 2: to use a bad budget to convince voters you're a
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Speaker 2: sound economic manager. Well, good luck with that. Here's Ross
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Speaker 2: Greenwood and the respect economist Chris Richardson on the rapid
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Speaker 2: deterioration of the budget a little earlier on this network.
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Speaker 7: We've told you for some time the budget is from
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Speaker 7: now go to deteriorate fast and there will be no
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Speaker 7: budget surplus in sight for the next decade at least.
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Speaker 7: Now that analysis comes from the respected economist Chris Richardson,
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Speaker 7: who joins me.
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Speaker 8: Now, most people look at the two budget surpluses and
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Speaker 8: try to understand, well, you know, that's magnificent.
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Speaker 6: How did it happen?
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Speaker 8: The answer is budgets moved, not merely because of the
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Speaker 8: decisions of politicians, but also because of the everything else
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Speaker 8: out there in the economy. Three big things, war, migration,
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Speaker 8: and inflation all added to the tax take in recent
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Speaker 8: times much more than Treasury expected. The government since being
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Speaker 8: elected has made decisions that have added one hundred and
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Speaker 8: four billion dollars to spending. They've also added forty four
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Speaker 8: billion to taxing, so that's a bit of an offset
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Speaker 8: than need to the two a sixty billion dollar worsening
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Speaker 8: in the budget.
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Speaker 2: So it's a fiscal shocker anyway you look at it.
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Speaker 2: Then you've got a factor in those new twenty thirty
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Speaker 2: five emissions targets. They're also due in February. Not only
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Speaker 2: energy pain is time in those targets, but agriculture and
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Speaker 2: transport pain as well. But no pain if you're in
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Speaker 2: caretaker mode is there because those targets will stay secret
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Speaker 2: until after Australians have voted. Then there's a default market offer,
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Speaker 2: essentially the mandated bill cap on the price of your electricity.
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Speaker 2: It comes out every year, and that draft number, well,
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Speaker 2: let's due in early March, and believe me, it won't
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Speaker 2: be pretty. See why, I think there's a strong political
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Speaker 2: case to go early and hide all of this from voters. Yes,
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Speaker 2: there was a potential clash with the Wa state election
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Speaker 2: if the government was to choose the same date as Saturday,
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Speaker 2: the eighth of March. But they won't. I'll call it
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Speaker 2: around the WA date for another Saturday in March or April,
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Speaker 2: just as long as they avoid that twenty five March budget.
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Speaker 2: They do not want to bring a budget down, and
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Speaker 2: that way they'll do their best to bury the bad
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Speaker 2: news until after you've voted. All right, we'll get the
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Speaker 2: headlines out of Camber now. Sky News political reporter cam Redden.
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Speaker 9: D Day for the government's response to a Royal Commission
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Speaker 9: into veter and suicide.
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Speaker 6: We will work tirelessly to improve the system.
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Speaker 9: Labor is promising real enduring reform after the commission found
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Speaker 9: more than two thousand diggers have taken their lives over
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Speaker 9: the past four decades. They deserve the enduring commitment of
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Speaker 9: their government no.
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Speaker 10: Matter their health.
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Speaker 9: Reforms include mandatory discharge for personnel convicted of sexual assault.
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Speaker 9: There will also be stronger recordkeeping and a separate inquiry
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Speaker 9: launched into sexual violence in the ADF.
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Speaker 5: Quite clearly we need to do better.
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Speaker 9: Architect of the hex student loan system, Bruce Chapman has
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Speaker 9: endorsed Labour's changes to raise the repayment threshold, but has
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Speaker 9: pushed back against moves to impose caps on foreign students
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Speaker 9: and cancel billions in student debt.
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Speaker 6: I have this discussion about so called free higher education
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Speaker 6: stops and that the word free is not used as
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Speaker 6: if it is meaningful.
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Speaker 9: And in another blow to hopes of a rate cart
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Speaker 9: early next year, retails spending rose for a third straight
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Speaker 9: month in October. It's expected to climb even further across
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Speaker 9: Black Friday, Cyber Monday and the Boxing day sales. Cameron
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Speaker 9: Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: All right for more on those stories from the headlines.
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Speaker 2: I'm joining now by Sky News political reporter Cam redd
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Speaker 2: and doing double judy for us tonight. Dannie Telly's journalist
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Speaker 2: James Willis. Gents, welcome. We saw Cam through the Parliament
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Speaker 2: last week that the ramming through of thirty on bills
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Speaker 2: that was pretty unedifying. I have to say we got
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Speaker 2: a glimpse through that process of what minority government could
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Speaker 2: look like between Labor and the Greens. The Greens obviously
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Speaker 2: had the whippan there. Half a billion dollars was poured
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Speaker 2: into a whole lot of their pet projects to get
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Speaker 2: the deal on that guillotine, including banning coal, oil and
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Speaker 2: gas projects from any sort of support out of that
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Speaker 2: Future Made in Australia program. The latest analysis though saying
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Speaker 2: Labour can't win government in its own right, the best
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Speaker 2: I can hope for is some sort of deal with
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Speaker 2: the Greens, perhaps even the Teals. While the coalition is
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Speaker 2: in fact closing in on a win in its own right,
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Speaker 2: isn't it.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's going to be tied either way, Peter, And
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Speaker 9: that's a consensus no matter who you speak to in
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Speaker 9: canber at the moment. There's no expectation at this stage anyway,
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Speaker 9: and things can change within the window now of about
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Speaker 9: six months till the election that things would change, but
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Speaker 9: that a minority government one way or another is the
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Speaker 9: most likely outcome, and you mentioned that point there. There
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Speaker 9: will of course be a key focus on the Greens.
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Speaker 9: They're the key numbers when it comes to deal making
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Speaker 9: in the Senate at the moment. They could be in
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Speaker 9: a similar position in the House as well. I think
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Speaker 9: what we've seen from the Greens in recent months and
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Speaker 9: really throughout the term of this government is that they
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Speaker 9: want to position themselves as the as the deal makers
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Speaker 9: or the deal breakers, as the ones that are willing
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Speaker 9: to wheel and deal as a group and to get
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Speaker 9: things happen. I think that has been a softening in
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Speaker 9: the way that they negotiate, certainly since the Queensland and
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Speaker 9: Act elections, where we saw voters swing away from the Greens.
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Speaker 9: They dropped many of the hardline requests around housing and
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Speaker 9: even on the environment build the EPA, which ultimately those
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Speaker 9: talks collapsed last week, Peter. But you're right to mention
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Speaker 9: the Teals too. We could yet be in a situation,
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Speaker 9: certainly in the Lower House where you have two competing
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Speaker 9: blocks for the balance of power, whether it's the Greens
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Speaker 9: or the Teals. Which way the Teals would go, well,
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Speaker 9: that still remains to be seen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think either of them will go with
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Speaker 2: the coalition. I've been there in twenty ten and I've
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Speaker 2: watched that movie. They will not go with the coalition.
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Speaker 2: So if you want stable government, I'd be voting for
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Speaker 2: one of the two majors. Let's just stay with the Greens,
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Speaker 2: because there's two environmental issues that are really playing out here.
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Speaker 2: They're plaguing labor and we're getting a distortion I think
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Speaker 2: between good policy James Willis and the prism with which
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Speaker 2: the Environment Minister Tanya Plebasic is seeing things through the
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Speaker 2: nature positive plan scuttled at the last minute by the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi. This is as a result of
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Speaker 2: talks with a WA premier. We know that that was
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Speaker 2: a huge issue in the West. It needs to hold
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Speaker 2: seats in the West, so that's now off the table,
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Speaker 2: although he has said since Friday it's still on the table,
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Speaker 2: so go figure that one for me. And then down
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Speaker 2: in Tasmania you've got the Environment Minister. There's a pending
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Speaker 2: decision to potentially ban salmon farming in that state. She's
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Speaker 2: sort of sitting on that until after the election, but
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Speaker 2: we know it to really play out negatively for Labor.
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Speaker 2: In the seat of Lions retiring MP there is under
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Speaker 2: some pressure and it could be one there for Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 2: So I said as I said, I think she's playing
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Speaker 2: to an urban Sydney vote and the PM instead is
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Speaker 2: trying to win seats right around the country.
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Speaker 5: It's a very interesting take and what we've seen in
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Speaker 5: Sydney with Tanya Plibersek is that her seat, which she's
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Speaker 5: safely held for a long period of time has been
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Speaker 5: the subject of a very direct and very deliberate activist
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Speaker 5: campaign with big posters that are calling out the Labor
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Speaker 5: Party's recent record on the environment in terms of approving
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Speaker 5: new coal and gas, the barrier reef, all those sort
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Speaker 5: of things. So those signs and that campaign has been
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Speaker 5: throughout Tanya Plibersek's electorate, so she's certainly feeling the heat
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Speaker 5: at the moment. But at the same time, you've got
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Speaker 5: this decision in Tasmani. You've just mentioned Peter, there's obviously
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Speaker 5: hundreds of jobs on the line there. You've got a
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Speaker 5: group of scientists and a group of bureaucrats saying that
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Speaker 5: this will extinct parts of the industry and therefore salmon
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Speaker 5: farming needs to be banned altogether.
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Speaker 2: You've had the.
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Speaker 5: Prime Minister to go down there recently and say that
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Speaker 5: salmon farming was the backbone of that local economy and
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Speaker 5: we have to look after them appropriately. And Tanya Plipasek
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Speaker 5: has been sitting on this decision for more than a year,
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Speaker 5: and this industry has been under threat for a decade
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Speaker 5: on and off. So it's a really really fascinating part
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Speaker 5: of how this government's operating because on one hand, you've
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Speaker 5: got Tanya Plipasec doing deals with the Greens like she
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Speaker 5: tried to do in Wa with this federal Environmental Protection agency.
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Speaker 5: Albow comes in and puts that to bed. You've got
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Speaker 5: Albow saying one thing about the salmon industry, the other
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Speaker 5: threats coming out of Tanya's office that it is going
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Speaker 5: to be banned. So yeah, ultimately it's a really interesting one.
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Speaker 5: The Prime Minister is obviously deeply concerned about the impact
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Speaker 5: on votes and the electorate. Tanya Plibasec, meanwhile, is just
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Speaker 5: concerned about holding on to her seat given the activists
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Speaker 5: that are happening in her backyard on the street corner.
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Speaker 2: You're not wrong. Let's go to that analysis from Chris
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Speaker 2: Richardson today saying that well, things are pretty cook in
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Speaker 2: the budget. We've talked about that for many months. Here
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Speaker 2: he says that the treasures added over one hundred billion
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Speaker 2: dollars worth of spending to the budget. That doesn't even
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Speaker 2: include can all the stuff that's off budget. We've talked
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Speaker 2: about those billions before the treasure was already out today
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Speaker 2: saying that come Wednesday we'll get some new numbers on
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Speaker 2: the economy. It will show, he says, historically slow growth.
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Speaker 2: This is about taking out a bit of insurance. I
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Speaker 2: suspect with the talk that will hit a seventh consecutive
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Speaker 2: quarter of negative growth meeting in per capita terms, that
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Speaker 2: recession is continuing.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And of course these figures wouldn't include any spending
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Speaker 9: that would come in an election campaign Peter or what
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Speaker 9: might be announced in the first few months of next year,
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Speaker 9: so this will just be a state of play. We're
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Speaker 9: also expecting a larger deficit, or for the deficit forecast
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Speaker 9: for next year to be upgraded on where day as
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Speaker 9: well as Chris Richardson and Deloitte put it when it
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Speaker 9: released a week ago or so similar reports that it
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Speaker 9: believes these two surpluses were down to good luck in
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Speaker 9: their words, not in mind. And the fact is that
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Speaker 9: some of those factors around wars boosting the price of
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Speaker 9: our exports, inflation adding to the government's tax take, and
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Speaker 9: migration being so high meaning we have more people to tax.
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Speaker 9: That has improved the budget bottom line as a whole.
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Speaker 9: But as inflation comes down, we have fewer migrants coming in,
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Speaker 9: as both parties agree they want to do, and other
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Speaker 9: factors like the iron ore price coming off by thirty percent.
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Speaker 9: You add all this up, Peter, it's not a great mix.
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Speaker 9: So politically it is really difficult for the government. But
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Speaker 9: economically too, that poses a massive challenge. It's been report
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Speaker 9: after report for years now that there are structural problems
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Speaker 9: within the budget yet to be addressed. And of course
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Speaker 9: you add the political factor of likely no rate cut
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Speaker 9: and probably an even bigger deficit next year. It's a
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Speaker 9: really tough economic message going into an election when the
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Speaker 9: economy is front of mind for everyone.
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Speaker 2: I'll say it again, they'll go early before that budget.
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Speaker 6: Hey.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the last time the Prime Minister had a captain's pick,
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Speaker 2: James Willis, he went with Christina Kennearly in the seat
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Speaker 2: of Fowler. Of course we know the story there, eighteen
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Speaker 2: percent swing against Labor and the Independent Die League got up.
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Speaker 2: There's a stauts going on in Barton. This is Linda
20:19
Speaker 2: Burney's old seat. She's retiring. Of course, what can you tell.
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Speaker 5: Us, Well, they should be winning Barton by a mile, Peter,
20:25
Speaker 5: and they did certainly the last election. But with the
20:27
Speaker 5: boundaries being changed, there is a fear that the Liberals
20:32
Speaker 5: could be a lot closer than what we expect we
20:35
Speaker 5: are three to five months away from an election. I'll
20:39
Speaker 5: take you on that. I'd say three, and at this
20:42
Speaker 5: stage there is no candidate in place and what should
20:45
Speaker 5: just be a very very easy winnable seat for the
20:48
Speaker 5: Labor Party. There's talk of federal intervention. There's a lot
20:51
Speaker 5: of local games going on at the moment. I note
20:53
Speaker 5: one of the favorites is Shaquet Mosselmaine, who's a former
20:56
Speaker 5: New South Wales MP, former local mayor. I'd encourage able
21:00
Speaker 5: to look at his own track record in recent times
21:03
Speaker 5: and some of his recent comments and some of his
21:05
Speaker 5: recent meetings. I find it hard to believe personally that
21:07
Speaker 5: he would even be one of the front runners. But
21:10
Speaker 5: certainly I think Labor's playing a really dangerous game in Sydney,
21:13
Speaker 5: where cost of living has been an enormous factor. We've
21:16
Speaker 5: been bearing the brunt of heavy levels of migration. The
21:20
Speaker 5: rent's been shocking, mortgages have been shocking, and that mortgage
21:23
Speaker 5: belt is really really struggling. You've also got all these
21:26
Speaker 5: independent candidates popping up in heavily Muslim areas, so they're
21:31
Speaker 5: playing a dangerous game. And look the idea of parachuting
21:34
Speaker 5: someone in that Christina can nearly two point zero is
21:37
Speaker 5: just a disaster waiting to happen.
21:41
Speaker 2: You're not wrong in New South Wales. We're going to
21:42
Speaker 2: get into this in a moment with Cos Samaras, But
21:44
Speaker 2: New South Wales will be a key Sydney in particular,
21:47
Speaker 2: a key area to watch in the next campaign, as
21:50
Speaker 2: will Victoria. That hasn't been the case in recent federal elections.
21:54
Speaker 2: I'll explain why in a moment, Jens, thank you. Right
21:57
Speaker 2: the Parliament of course, wrapping up last week, when you
22:00
Speaker 2: think the election will be hold held, it's clear they're
22:03
Speaker 2: going to work hard over the summer. That's shutting their messages,
22:05
Speaker 2: that getting out there. They're campaigning hard. It's how successful
22:09
Speaker 2: they're going to be. Where's it going to go? Director
22:12
Speaker 2: at red Bridge Group, Cos Samaras, former Labor insider, joins me. Now,
22:16
Speaker 2: who knows quite a bit about campaigning, Let's just start
22:21
Speaker 2: there on the campaigning point, right, so they get all
22:23
Speaker 2: those bills through. To me, it looks like they're clearing
22:25
Speaker 2: the decks. The economic headwinds will bite for labor in
22:29
Speaker 2: the first quarter of next year. This is why, because
22:31
Speaker 2: I think they're not going to come out there and
22:33
Speaker 2: deliver a budget of ready come the middle of March.
22:35
Speaker 2: They'll go before that, they'll be in caretaker. But I'll
22:39
Speaker 2: be watching your analysis over the last week. You're making
22:43
Speaker 2: the very valid point that they just aren't landing their messages,
22:47
Speaker 2: that the communications are shot. But I'm also not seeing
22:52
Speaker 2: them try anything different. I'm not seeing them try and
22:54
Speaker 2: reset the narrative. What's going on.
22:59
Speaker 6: Whatever they doing, it's not working. They will tell everyone
23:04
Speaker 6: that they have done as much as they can to
23:06
Speaker 6: address the cost of living pressures, particularly for Australians living
23:09
Speaker 6: in the outer suburbs in the regions, But when we
23:12
Speaker 6: talk to these very voters that will tell us no,
23:16
Speaker 6: I'm not hearing anything from the federal government. We will
23:19
Speaker 6: do this test in every focus group, name three things
23:23
Speaker 6: that the Albanezi government has done that's positive, and we
23:27
Speaker 6: are always met with silence. Always, So fundamentally, that's a
23:32
Speaker 6: collapse of whatever strategy they're using. It's absolutely failure that
23:37
Speaker 6: actually being able to actually earn a punch within the electric.
23:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony Abbott was always lampooned by the elites for
23:45
Speaker 2: having his sort of slogans and he's four or five
23:48
Speaker 2: messages he wanted to be in voters' heads when they voted.
23:51
Speaker 2: Nice and simple, you don't stop the boats, fixed the
23:53
Speaker 2: budget whatever it was, you know, And of course that's
23:57
Speaker 2: what you want. A good campaign wants their messages remembered
24:01
Speaker 2: on the day when the pens in the hand. The
24:03
Speaker 2: problem for label We saw this with the Democrats in
24:05
Speaker 2: the United States. They are the incumbents, but what's the
24:10
Speaker 2: record they're running on. I mean, if you were generous
24:13
Speaker 2: and said, what has labored done to make the country
24:16
Speaker 2: better in the time they've been in office, what is it?
24:22
Speaker 6: Look, I'd probably go to some of the industrial relations
24:25
Speaker 6: reforms which do help people in their hip pocket out
24:27
Speaker 6: there and out of urbs and regions. They're not communicating that.
24:33
Speaker 6: I mean the States thory tax cups or the revision.
24:36
Speaker 6: Revision of that policy was warranted in my opinion, but
24:42
Speaker 6: again doesn't scratch the sides. And most botus just tell us,
24:46
Speaker 6: thank you very much for giving back my money. So
24:49
Speaker 6: really it's the ir space, you know, in terms of
24:52
Speaker 6: really helping people on the ground, But even that has
24:56
Speaker 6: not been communicated. They've done it and they've spent zero
25:00
Speaker 6: great time on it.
25:03
Speaker 2: Right, You've long said, I think we all would agree,
25:06
Speaker 2: Queensland's as swing state, key swing state. It's been in
25:09
Speaker 2: player the recent federal elections. But you now think this
25:12
Speaker 2: dynamic shifted in New South Wales in Victoria. So what's
25:15
Speaker 2: changed and how is it going to play out differently
25:18
Speaker 2: in the looming election.
25:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty twenty two was the shifts really where the
25:24
Speaker 6: election was decided by the two big states. That was
25:27
Speaker 6: largely because of the loss of seats from the Coalition
25:31
Speaker 6: to the Tills and to the Labor Party in inn
25:34
Speaker 6: urban metropolitan Sydney and Melbourne. This coming election again these
25:42
Speaker 6: two big cities will be telling the story along with
25:44
Speaker 6: regional New South Wales because that's where I think the
25:49
Speaker 6: Coalition is going to make up significant ground. And based
25:52
Speaker 6: on some of the research that we've got coming up
25:54
Speaker 6: in the Dali Telegraph and a few other publications in
25:57
Speaker 6: the end of this week, there is the sign that
26:00
Speaker 6: whatever Duttony is doing seems to be working and it's
26:05
Speaker 6: going to be interesting to see whether he's able to
26:07
Speaker 6: actually call together on enough seats the off the Labor
26:10
Speaker 6: Party in the outer urban and regional parts of these
26:14
Speaker 6: two states.
26:17
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also call it sort of the donut right.
26:19
Speaker 2: So the whole of the donuts urban area that in
26:22
Speaker 2: the case of Labor and the Greens, they fight over
26:24
Speaker 2: some of that territory. Now in the case of the
26:26
Speaker 2: Tills have taken on some of that old blue ribbon
26:28
Speaker 2: ground from the Liberal Party. It's that outer ring sort
26:32
Speaker 2: of pery urban areas, that's what you're talking about. So
26:34
Speaker 2: the Astons and the Dunkleys in Victoria and similar seats
26:38
Speaker 2: in New South Wales.
26:40
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, and it's also it's a reflection of
26:43
Speaker 6: the trend we're seeing across the western world.
26:45
Speaker 9: Right.
26:46
Speaker 6: What happened in the US is going to happen here
26:49
Speaker 6: in Australia. Sooner or later, lower income, blue collar, pink
26:54
Speaker 6: collar communities are going to start voting for the Coalition.
26:58
Speaker 6: We have evidence that that's already started, people contemplating and
27:01
Speaker 6: doing that in seats that historically have been pretty good
27:03
Speaker 6: for Labor. So I think the flip will kerk and
27:07
Speaker 6: it occur within the next ten years. The journey of
27:10
Speaker 6: that flip will start probably within the next election, and
27:16
Speaker 6: you know, Labor wolls start to see its red walls
27:18
Speaker 6: start to crumble over the next I would say two cycles.
27:24
Speaker 2: I was looking at that polling your head out over
27:25
Speaker 2: the weekend about the labor primary voter in New South
27:28
Speaker 2: Wild and in Victoria. I mean I saw Chris Mins
27:32
Speaker 2: out today on this issue about Australia Day and the
27:35
Speaker 2: cancelation of Australia Day by a pub chain. He couldn't
27:38
Speaker 2: have been more rock solid. I'd regard it as a
27:40
Speaker 2: sort of a center right position saying we've got to
27:43
Speaker 2: celebrate our national Day, we've got to come together in January.
27:47
Speaker 2: So yes, he's popular, but as the issue there that
27:51
Speaker 2: federal labor is impact impacting on state Labour's brand.
27:55
Speaker 6: Definitely used that wells Chrisminson's popularity is actually very high
28:00
Speaker 6: and some of the highest numbers we've actually recorded for
28:02
Speaker 6: a premium of any state. The problem in New South
28:07
Speaker 6: Wales is the federal brand, Federal labor brain is definitely
28:10
Speaker 6: impacting his numbers and we've done a lot of work
28:13
Speaker 6: in that space to be pretty confident saying that Victoria
28:16
Speaker 6: it's a mixed bag. The labor brain is in trouble
28:19
Speaker 6: at both levels, both at a state and federal level.
28:22
Speaker 6: But in New South Wales there's no doubt about it.
28:25
Speaker 6: It'd be interesting to see what the polling numbers look
28:27
Speaker 6: like once we're done and dusted with a federal election
28:30
Speaker 6: and people are able to actually express themselves at that
28:32
Speaker 6: battot box.
28:35
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll all be looking forward to your
28:36
Speaker 2: research that's coming out later on this week. Chle, thank
28:39
Speaker 2: you for your Tom the problem all right after break center,
28:41
Speaker 2: Namba Jen Proprice on that shocking call by the pub
28:44
Speaker 2: group the Ditch, a straight to day reaction swift and fast,
28:48
Speaker 2: got on your Australia Plus a bit later on, and
28:50
Speaker 2: we joined by Victorian Farmer who's fearful for her family's future.
28:54
Speaker 2: The state and federal governments persist with this renewables rollout.
29:03
Speaker 2: The non country boys in my ear in the studio
29:05
Speaker 2: are laughing. But I just saw a picture from a
29:07
Speaker 2: friend of mine on a farm in Harsham who had
29:09
Speaker 2: a whopping big tiger snake just in front of her
29:13
Speaker 2: as she was mowing. The Lord. There you go, city
29:15
Speaker 2: dwell as a tea white, All right, welcome back. Still
29:17
Speaker 2: to come, the panel will weigh in and Joe Biden's
29:20
Speaker 2: shocking decision to Bardony's son Hunter despite saying he would
29:23
Speaker 2: never do that. Now to that shocking decision too by
29:26
Speaker 2: the country's second largest pub group demand Australia A celebrations
29:30
Speaker 2: at all their venues. This is the Australian venue co
29:34
Speaker 2: and I said before, they're not very Australian. They want
29:37
Speaker 2: to ban celebrations across the nation on the twenty sixth
29:41
Speaker 2: of January, saying that our national Day causes sadness and
29:45
Speaker 2: hurt for some. Well clearly they felt the outrage because
29:49
Speaker 2: the group this afternoon visied a new statement saying it's
29:52
Speaker 2: not for us to tell anyone whether or how to
29:55
Speaker 2: celebrate Australia Day. Glad they call it Australia Day. We
29:59
Speaker 2: APOLOGI guys for our comments. Johnny is now for her
30:02
Speaker 2: take on this, Miss Shadow Indigenous Australians. Minister, just enter Nampa.
30:07
Speaker 2: Jimper Price, Well, I'll tell you what this is. I
30:10
Speaker 2: own this pub group by a private equity mob out
30:13
Speaker 2: of Singapore. I mean, what the heck We all voted
30:16
Speaker 2: about our National Day when we voted against the Voice
30:20
Speaker 2: last year, and they're trying to tell us what to do. Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Look, I think we've got to a point of absolute
30:28
Speaker 11: nonsense in our country. I mean, could this be considered
30:30
Speaker 11: foreign interference? That it's a pub group out of Singapore
30:35
Speaker 11: suggesting that we, as Australians, you know, deciding for us
30:40
Speaker 11: how we should celebrate or not celebrate our national day.
30:45
Speaker 11: I'm sick to death of the separatism in this country.
30:47
Speaker 11: I'm sick to death of those who are trying to
30:51
Speaker 11: be politicians who aren't politicians, telling the rest of the
30:54
Speaker 11: country how to do things, how to think, you know,
30:58
Speaker 11: as Australians. And I'm sure there are Australians out there
31:02
Speaker 11: who will react to this very angrily, and I think
31:07
Speaker 11: I would urge those people go find a pub on
31:10
Speaker 11: Australia Day that does celebrate our country and make sure
31:15
Speaker 11: that they get your heart earned dollars because the opportunities
31:18
Speaker 11: that this country gave you. If they want to celebrate
31:21
Speaker 11: this country, that's what we need to do. Start encouraging
31:24
Speaker 11: those to celebrate our great country on Australia Day.
31:29
Speaker 2: Well, this is a private equity moburn. As I said
31:31
Speaker 2: at the top of the show, now, the only thing
31:33
Speaker 2: private equity understands is a profit hit. So I don't
31:37
Speaker 2: care what statement they've put out this afternoon, I will
31:39
Speaker 2: not walk across the threshold at any one of their venues.
31:42
Speaker 2: I want to keep that list in my pocket, so
31:44
Speaker 2: I can't make that mistake. But I mean, in a
31:47
Speaker 2: way I'm heartened by how quickly justinta ordinary Australians, a
31:51
Speaker 2: majority of Australians have just blown up at this statement
31:55
Speaker 2: from Australian venue CO. Doesn't that give you heart that
31:59
Speaker 2: what we said last year with the voice, we actually
32:01
Speaker 2: mean it and we're not going to be silent anymore.
32:06
Speaker 11: Absolutely, absolutely Australians are sick of it. Australians stood up
32:10
Speaker 11: and said when they said, when they voted no to
32:13
Speaker 11: the referendum, they voted no to separatism in this country.
32:16
Speaker 11: They voted no to continuing to push the victim narrative
32:20
Speaker 11: onto Indigenous Australians, ultimately disempowering Indigenous Australians by suggesting where
32:26
Speaker 11: all victims of our country's history. Now's the time, I
32:31
Speaker 11: know Australians will continue to say no to this nonsense.
32:33
Speaker 11: Now's the time to pick our pieces up, to come
32:36
Speaker 11: together as a country and to move forward together and
32:40
Speaker 11: to celebrate all the wonderful achievements that we've made. You know,
32:44
Speaker 11: I visited Israel earlier this year. I saw what it
32:47
Speaker 11: meant when your freedoms are under threat, when your children
32:51
Speaker 11: have to be taught from a very young age that
32:54
Speaker 11: when you hear a particular siren that you go run
32:56
Speaker 11: and hide.
32:57
Speaker 2: That your teenagers. We don't our teeners don't have.
32:59
Speaker 11: To walk around here patrolling our streets from terrorism. No,
33:04
Speaker 11: we take a lot of stuff for granted in this country,
33:07
Speaker 11: but we have the ultimate freedoms in this country, and
33:10
Speaker 11: there are many who died for those freedoms, and Australia
33:13
Speaker 11: as the day that we celebrate those freedoms.
33:18
Speaker 2: A lot of corporates have said since the Voice that
33:20
Speaker 2: they got it wrong. A lot of them have taken
33:22
Speaker 2: decisions at a board level not to weigh into politics anymore.
33:26
Speaker 2: So I am surprised that this mob did. I think
33:28
Speaker 2: they've got a ten year on it. And of course,
33:30
Speaker 2: you know we're heading into Christmas. No one's really focused
33:32
Speaker 2: on Australia Day. They bought that fight forward. They made
33:35
Speaker 2: themselves the issue. But you know your point at the
33:39
Speaker 2: top of your commentary there that this should be left
33:42
Speaker 2: to politicians that were sick of the corporate virtue signaling.
33:45
Speaker 2: Do you think we're getting to the end of this
33:47
Speaker 2: peak woke period? Do you think we're getting some common
33:50
Speaker 2: sense returning?
33:53
Speaker 11: I think the tables are turning Peter, and I think
33:56
Speaker 11: if these corporates want to continue down this path of nonsense,
33:59
Speaker 11: well then don't just virtue signaling.
34:01
Speaker 6: Why don't you do something.
34:03
Speaker 11: You know, this corporation they can go and they can
34:05
Speaker 11: invest in rehabilitation for those who suffer in domestic and
34:09
Speaker 11: family violence because of the causes of alcohol in our country,
34:12
Speaker 11: in remote communities. If you really cared for original people,
34:17
Speaker 11: you care more than about hurt feelings, You care about
34:21
Speaker 11: the plight of our most marginalized. And so I implore
34:27
Speaker 11: this group and others who want to do this to
34:29
Speaker 11: go and do something that will actually have a positive
34:32
Speaker 11: effect on the ground. Go and invest in rehabilitation. That's
34:36
Speaker 11: certainly the products that you know they are selling over
34:38
Speaker 11: the counters at their pubs. You know the havoc that
34:42
Speaker 11: that is breaking in some of the communities. If they're
34:46
Speaker 11: really serious about wanting to make a difference without just
34:49
Speaker 11: standing up and virtue signaling.
34:52
Speaker 10: Australians are done with it.
34:53
Speaker 11: Australians want to celebrate, So let them be.
34:57
Speaker 2: Good point. Let's have some of their profits left to
34:59
Speaker 2: Thisustralia to look after the women. You always talk about
35:02
Speaker 2: your center as opposed to shipping it back to Singapore.
35:05
Speaker 2: Thank you, just send a price for your time Saturday
35:08
Speaker 2: memagip a price there all right after the break, Farming
35:10
Speaker 2: families being driven off properties they've worked for decades as
35:13
Speaker 2: huge new transmission lines are forced on them. Well, they're
35:17
Speaker 2: not going to go down without a fight. A big
35:18
Speaker 2: community meeting was held on Friday night in one at
35:21
Speaker 2: town more on matt after the break. For us a
35:24
Speaker 2: bit later on, we'll get back to Joe Biden's decision
35:26
Speaker 2: to pardon his son. Welcome back despite our productivity and
35:33
Speaker 2: the toilet or the unions want to ensry, and the
35:36
Speaker 2: right for more workers to work from home. But first,
35:40
Speaker 2: Almost daily I've received emails from yours who themselves are
35:42
Speaker 2: dealing with the role that of renewables and the transmission
35:46
Speaker 2: lines that are needed to get the renewable energy to
35:49
Speaker 2: where people want to use it. This is happening right
35:52
Speaker 2: across the country, but as always, Victoria seems to be
35:54
Speaker 2: ground zero for what's in effect a massive renewables experiment,
35:59
Speaker 2: largely the expense of farming communities. The root for the
36:02
Speaker 2: proposed high voltage transmission link between Victoria and New South
36:06
Speaker 2: Wales is set to scar some of the country's most
36:08
Speaker 2: productive agricultural land with eighty meter or more high transmission lines. Yes,
36:15
Speaker 2: this matters if you live in regional Australia, but if
36:17
Speaker 2: you live in the city and when to eat Australian
36:20
Speaker 2: grown food and meat, it matters to you too. Joining
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Speaker 2: me now is Emma Burke, a farmer from jeff Cod
36:26
Speaker 2: in Northwest Victoria, about two hundred and forty clicks from Melbourne,
36:30
Speaker 2: one of the many who are now mobilizing against the
36:33
Speaker 2: government's plans. Emma, great to have you on the show.
36:37
Speaker 2: We're talking about transmission lines in your case that will
36:40
Speaker 2: be right out the front of your property. So what
36:44
Speaker 2: are your primary concerns.
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Speaker 12: These transmission lines are in front of our house and
36:50
Speaker 12: on our property, so they're about three hundred to four
36:52
Speaker 12: hundred meters from our home and the similar to my parents,
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Speaker 12: my husband's parents, and they're even less for my brother
37:04
Speaker 12: in law's farm, which is only a kilometer from our
37:07
Speaker 12: house as well. So the proximity to the houses is
37:11
Speaker 12: a real concern. They go about ten kilometers along our farms,
37:17
Speaker 12: and I think the state labor government fast tracking these
37:23
Speaker 12: huge five hundred thousand vault lines and the eighty five
37:28
Speaker 12: meter towers is of huge concern to us the effect
37:32
Speaker 12: on our farming practices, and we won't feel safe when
37:36
Speaker 12: working around them at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, help us understand that. Because you're a broad
37:42
Speaker 2: acre farmer and so for people that are not off
37:45
Speaker 2: the land, that means you've got a lot of machinery.
37:48
Speaker 2: It's got a lot of height to some of the machinery.
37:52
Speaker 2: And we also know we've spoken before Emma to CEFA
37:55
Speaker 2: people who say it's impossible to adequately protect that area
38:00
Speaker 2: from fire risk around these towers. But in terms of
38:03
Speaker 2: how you would farm going forward, how would that change?
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Speaker 12: Obviously, working around the transmission lines, we won't be able
38:12
Speaker 12: to work underneath them.
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Speaker 10: We won't be able to.
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Speaker 12: Do our drone spraying above them, which is normal practice
38:20
Speaker 12: for when it's wet. Our farm has the Downs Creek
38:24
Speaker 12: that runs from Saint Arnod through to the warren Ook Lakes,
38:28
Speaker 12: so in times when it's really wet where the transmission
38:32
Speaker 12: lines are, we won't be able to spray. Therefore, Yeah,
38:35
Speaker 12: the during spraying is imperative and we won't be able to
38:38
Speaker 12: do that at all. So the large machinery that we
38:41
Speaker 12: do have obviously will affect how we work underneath them
38:46
Speaker 12: and how we get our work done.
38:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you had a big rally in my
38:54
Speaker 2: old hometown of Whichie, where I was born and raised.
38:56
Speaker 2: That was there on Friday night. Lots of people. Let
38:59
Speaker 2: me know what was going on. It looked like you
39:01
Speaker 2: had a good crowd. A lot of other locals are
39:03
Speaker 2: standing pretty firm on your op in opposition to this.
39:08
Speaker 2: Give me a sense of what sort of communication and
39:11
Speaker 2: consultation you and others have received.
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Speaker 12: Yes, we attended that meeting on Friday night and there
39:19
Speaker 12: was approximately one hundred and fourteen people.
39:21
Speaker 10: I'm told that we're in attendance, so a great turnout.
39:25
Speaker 10: We sorry, it was a question again, what.
39:31
Speaker 2: Sort of consultation have you had from the authority?
39:34
Speaker 10: Yes, sorry, so we haven't had.
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Speaker 12: We've had minimal consultation from the project itself. Everything that
39:42
Speaker 12: we've been told has been put to us.
39:46
Speaker 10: We haven't been able.
39:48
Speaker 12: We've expressed our concerns, however they haven't been listened to.
39:52
Speaker 12: So they're just pushing forward with this project no matter what.
39:57
Speaker 12: There's been lots of around this project as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people tell me though the community is not split
40:04
Speaker 2: on this. I know sometimes they try and weed people out,
40:07
Speaker 2: you know, offer them big money to take on these
40:09
Speaker 2: transmission lines to sort of break apart communities. That's not
40:13
Speaker 2: happening in your case, is it.
40:16
Speaker 12: No, we're all united on this front. There are a
40:19
Speaker 12: few hosts that have secretly chosen to have some manuals
40:24
Speaker 12: on their properties, such as wind turbines, and it's come
40:27
Speaker 12: as a big surprise to their neighbors who didn't know
40:30
Speaker 12: anything about it. So there's been a little bit of
40:33
Speaker 12: divide in that way that now lifelong friends aren't speaking
40:37
Speaker 12: with each other.
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Speaker 10: So it is going to tear our communities apart.
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Speaker 12: All these renewables that are being pushed upon us, and
40:46
Speaker 12: that the money that's been thrown at them. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 12: affecting that side of things.
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Speaker 2: Shocking. And I just got to say, you know, Emma,
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Speaker 2: you and your husban and brought your land. You are
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Speaker 2: exactly the sort of people we need to take a
41:04
Speaker 2: punt to buy land, to get in the country and
41:06
Speaker 2: build it up for the future. You got three young boys.
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Speaker 2: I can see why this is, you know, affecting you emotionally. Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, our boys are six generation farmers and knowing that
41:20
Speaker 12: these projects are going to really affect them to come
41:23
Speaker 12: onto the land and their farming practices. And even when
41:26
Speaker 12: you look at the fire risk and ability to fight
41:29
Speaker 12: the fires, there five hundred thousand vaults. So the smoke
41:34
Speaker 12: if there was a fire, the smoke that it's submitted
41:38
Speaker 12: that goes near the transmission line, that's a really, really
41:40
Speaker 12: dangerous situation to be in.
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Speaker 10: And yeah, I do worry.
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Speaker 12: For our boys and their in the future if they
41:48
Speaker 12: take on the farm, their safety on the farm and
41:51
Speaker 12: the ability to.
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Speaker 10: Farm in general is going to be so much harder.
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Speaker 12: And it's not fair that it's been pushed upon agri
41:57
Speaker 12: cultural land that you know, as you said before, we're
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Speaker 12: providing food for the nation and internationally, so it's a
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Speaker 12: real major concern for us.
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Speaker 2: Thank you every I'm going to stay across the issue,
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Speaker 2: and I know a lot of people watching sending you support,
42:15
Speaker 2: but they're also sending me more stories to run to
42:17
Speaker 2: keep this in the headlines. So thank you for your time.
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Speaker 2: There you go. After the break, we'll get into Joe
42:22
Speaker 2: Biden pardoning his son Hunter Biden today, plus more ominous
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Speaker 2: warnings about gas supplies by the Victorian government pick headedly
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Speaker 2: refuses to let companies extract more gas. I gotta laugh now,
42:39
Speaker 2: My phone is blowing out with snake videos, and I
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Speaker 2: do not like snakes. All right, let's go to the
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Speaker 2: United States major news there today President Joe Biden pardoning
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Speaker 2: his son Hunter, who was facing possible jail time over
42:51
Speaker 2: at gun and tax chargers. In a statement, the President
42:55
Speaker 2: said the charges in his cases came about only after
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Speaker 2: several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them to
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Speaker 2: attack me and oppose my election. No reasonable person, he says,
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Speaker 2: who looks at the facts of Hunter's cases, can reach
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Speaker 2: any conclusion other than he was singled out only because
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Speaker 2: he's my son, and that is wrong. Joy, mean, now
43:15
Speaker 2: to discuss this more. L and p MP Keith pet
43:18
Speaker 2: and Lippal Senator for South Australia, Alex Antick. Well, Alex,
43:22
Speaker 2: he said he would never do this, and that he did.
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Speaker 2: Do you think this will be the end of it?
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Speaker 1: Well, Peter, I mean, I think I heard him say that,
43:32
Speaker 1: but I never really believed it, honestly. I mean, it's
43:35
Speaker 1: extraordinary to me that this power even exists in the
43:37
Speaker 1: United States. So I'm glad we don't have the same
43:39
Speaker 1: thing here, because it seems on the starting point to
43:42
Speaker 1: sort of fundamentally cut across the separation of powers, and
43:45
Speaker 1: it seems entirely conflicted. But look, I mean I don't
43:49
Speaker 1: think I don't think there's any doubt it was ever
43:51
Speaker 1: going to happen. And I have to say, it is
43:54
Speaker 1: extraordinary to hear the president say that he thinks that
43:56
Speaker 1: hunt has been singled out. I mean, asked the forty
43:59
Speaker 1: fifth president of the United States, Donald John Trump, how
44:01
Speaker 1: he feels about having more indictments than Alphons capone and
44:04
Speaker 1: see if he feels singled out. So look, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't think this is the end of it, though
44:09
Speaker 1: I think they'll be bored to it. Although this covers
44:11
Speaker 1: a ten year period apparently from January twenty fourteen to
44:17
Speaker 1: ten years out and hit of that. So it's extraordinary stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to do it. He has to do
44:23
Speaker 2: it because otherwise his legacy, of course, is going to
44:25
Speaker 2: be tainted by his son, who is as rotten as
44:28
Speaker 2: all get out. But Keith, just more broadly, on the
44:32
Speaker 2: incoming president's first couple of weeks, I mean, some of
44:36
Speaker 2: these appointments, she's going to shake the tree in Washington.
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, Peter and I agree with Alex. It's quite extraordinary
44:45
Speaker 13: not having the separation of powers.
44:47
Speaker 2: I went to have a bit of a look.
44:48
Speaker 13: Would you believe Obama pardon almost two thousand people, Donald
44:52
Speaker 13: Trump and his last term a couple hundred and Joe
44:54
Speaker 13: Biden just twenty six and one happens to be his son.
44:57
Speaker 13: I mean, what an incredible power to have. But I
45:00
Speaker 13: think Donald Trump, the US people have made the right decision.
45:03
Speaker 13: I think this is just another justification for his election,
45:06
Speaker 13: and his selections have been broad. And you've got Matt Whitaker,
45:10
Speaker 13: who I know very well. He'll be the ambassador to NATO,
45:13
Speaker 13: and I think that will definitely help sort out the
45:15
Speaker 13: issue in the Ukraine. And I look forward to more
45:17
Speaker 13: strong decisions from Donald Trump in the United States.
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Speaker 2: Alex, what do you make about the decision today but
45:23
Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke to refuse an Australian visa
45:29
Speaker 2: to a former Israeli government minister Ailer Shakid.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Peter, I mean this is becoming all too familiar,
45:40
Speaker 1: isn't it. We have this sort of strange path where
45:42
Speaker 1: people are singled out for reasons of social cohesion. I mean,
45:46
Speaker 1: I think a similar power was used, if not the
45:48
Speaker 1: exact same power, without being corrected for Novak Djokovic and
45:52
Speaker 1: Candae Owens in. Novak Djokovic, of course, came through the
45:56
Speaker 1: middle of COVID and you can see how this power
45:58
Speaker 1: can be used in terms of the minister's own subjective
46:01
Speaker 1: opinion in many respects as to what is going to
46:03
Speaker 1: harm society. Now, I mean, I take the view I
46:06
Speaker 1: would rather hear what people have got to say, regardless
46:09
Speaker 1: of whether or not I'm offended by it or not.
46:11
Speaker 1: I just think this is a very very dangerous way
46:14
Speaker 1: to go. And so I think, I mean, freedom of
46:17
Speaker 1: speech is finite. I get it. You can't have people
46:19
Speaker 1: calling for killings and murders and all the rest of it.
46:22
Speaker 1: We all agree with that. But you start entering into
46:25
Speaker 1: dangerous territory when you start denying people visas on these grounds.
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Speaker 1: I reckon.
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Speaker 2: Look, I share that view. Let's go to Queensland. Up
46:34
Speaker 2: your way home style. Bake Keith has warned that manufacturing
46:38
Speaker 2: in this country has been priced out of existence. This
46:41
Speaker 2: is a business that now pays two hundred percent more
46:44
Speaker 2: for gas and around three hundred percent more for electricity
46:48
Speaker 2: that it did just three years ago. It comes to
46:51
Speaker 2: South Australia, scram was to restart two diesel power plants
46:55
Speaker 2: to sure up its energy supply. But Victoria and your
46:58
Speaker 2: South woll I was also facing possible gas shortages as
47:01
Speaker 2: early as winter twenty twenty six unless we are gas
47:06
Speaker 2: rich country import more gas. Victoria, of course plenty of
47:10
Speaker 2: gas in the ground. We just don't have a government
47:13
Speaker 2: that allows us to get it out, will Peter.
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Speaker 13: None of those four or five items sound like a
47:18
Speaker 13: two hundred and seventy five dollars reduction to me.
47:21
Speaker 10: Not one of them.
47:22
Speaker 13: And guess what it impacts directly our food supply into
47:25
Speaker 13: Australia and what things cost. And once again it will
47:29
Speaker 13: make international companies more competitive, if I remember correctly, in
47:32
Speaker 13: the US their gas prices around three dollars a gigadeel.
47:35
Speaker 13: I mean that's US dollars obviously, and here I'm hearing
47:38
Speaker 13: quotes and Australian dollars above twenty on the spot market.
47:41
Speaker 13: For our manufacturers, it is a ludicrous position to find
47:45
Speaker 13: ourselves in. It is all off the back of labor policies,
47:48
Speaker 13: and now you're looking at having to start diesel generators
47:51
Speaker 13: in South Australia to keep the lights on. And these
47:53
Speaker 13: are big ones. They're not reciprocating engines. These are like
47:55
Speaker 13: a gas turbine themselves. So once again across the board
47:59
Speaker 13: state fed labor governments, it is their policies that are
48:02
Speaker 13: driving the Australian people to the wall on cost of living.
48:05
Speaker 13: We will have less manufacturers, not more under this labor government.
48:11
Speaker 2: Alex, the Act you want to make more rights to
48:15
Speaker 2: work from home an election issue. I can't believe you
48:20
Speaker 2: could be that lucky, surely.
48:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, look, I mean this is another hangover from
48:28
Speaker 1: the COVID period that seems to not want to go away,
48:30
Speaker 1: this work for home scenario. Ultimately, this has really got
48:34
Speaker 1: to come to an end, I think. I mean people
48:36
Speaker 1: were locked in their homes, sure, but we've now got
48:39
Speaker 1: central business districts that are crying out for people to
48:41
Speaker 1: come back to the office. And I mean, look, where
48:44
Speaker 1: does the Act you go when it has prosecuted every
48:48
Speaker 1: legitimate argument, perhaps twice over. Well, it looks to work
48:51
Speaker 1: from home because everyone wants to work in their pajamas.
48:53
Speaker 1: It's got to end. I mean, businesses have a right
48:55
Speaker 1: to have people in their offices. Every business that I
48:57
Speaker 1: speak to that can have people working from home wishes
49:00
Speaker 1: they had less. And I think it's yeah. I mean,
49:04
Speaker 1: we very happily tackle that one and the lead up
49:06
Speaker 1: to an election. You're quite right about that.
49:10
Speaker 2: Keith I brought a story to my viewers last week
49:14
Speaker 2: about a convicted murderer in Victoria had been approved to
49:17
Speaker 2: get IVF treatment. Well, the government's been weak. Just In
49:21
Speaker 2: Allen sort of wringing her hands about it, says she
49:23
Speaker 2: won't discuss personal circumstances, but all the public hospitals that
49:29
Speaker 2: to have IVF services, as well as the state's major
49:32
Speaker 2: IVF clinics, they are saying they will not treat this woman.
49:37
Speaker 2: So leadership from the clinics are not the premier. Well, Peter, I.
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Speaker 13: Know this is a desperately personal issue for you, and
49:47
Speaker 13: I know your history. But if you're in jail, there's
49:50
Speaker 13: a reason for that. You are paying the penalty for
49:52
Speaker 13: something that you've done in your former life, and this
49:57
Speaker 13: is one of those penalties. I think people in vict
50:00
Speaker 13: Vitoria would be horrified as to what you can get
50:02
Speaker 13: access to as a jaily mate. The idea is that
50:06
Speaker 13: you're supposed to have a penalty because of the things
50:08
Speaker 13: that you've done, and I don't think there's anything wrong
50:10
Speaker 13: with that whatsoever. But it's another reason the Victorian government
50:14
Speaker 13: is tanking, and not just on the economy, which is
50:16
Speaker 13: an absolute disaster. Here's another reason.
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Speaker 2: Yeah wrong. I think parenthood as a responsibility, not just
50:25
Speaker 2: a right. In this case, she loses her rights. Thank
50:27
Speaker 2: you both, see you next week. That's it for me.
50:30
Speaker 2: It's a gift. You're right, You're right, Keith. Up next,
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Speaker 2: Andrew Bob