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#560 - Ray Vaughn On His Beef with Joey BadA$$, New Mixtape, TDE Compilation & Much More! · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Botleg Cap Podcast, Boutlet cav Show. We got a special
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Speaker 1: guest in here. I just told him at the very
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Speaker 1: moment he has my second favorite album of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 1: Crazy Dog. It's up. It's it might it might ease
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Speaker 1: into one, but yo, Rayvaughon, what's the deal. Good to
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Speaker 1: see you, buddy, Good to see you again. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: told you. Man like this album. I feel like as
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Speaker 1: we're considering this a mixtape, it's a mixtape. A mixtape.
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Speaker 1: I mean, fuck man, we've been waiting for this album
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Speaker 1: for seven fucking years. Niggas do not respect the mixtape.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's an.
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Speaker 1: Album, Okay, this mixtape is very much the music that
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Speaker 1: I have been waiting for you to release. The level
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Speaker 1: of vulnerability on here.
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Speaker 2: Just what you know me for it from like years back.
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Speaker 1: Correct. And it's also like, you know, I wonder the
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Speaker 1: first thing I wanted to ask you is you know
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Speaker 1: this is such a personal album, and it's a personal
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Speaker 1: album not just for you, but for your family. Do
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Speaker 1: you play this for family members to kind of like
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Speaker 1: let them know that hey, certain shits talking about No, no,
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Speaker 1: no no, It's just like, yo, it comes out when
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Speaker 1: the music comes out. Do you get feedback from like
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Speaker 1: some of the people that maybe you spoke on in.
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Speaker 3: The most of the time they be like, man, I
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Speaker 3: appreciate you for like putting that out right, I appreciate
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Speaker 3: you for doing that. I'd be like, I don't care
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Speaker 3: if you like it or not. Right, it's like asking
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Speaker 3: mission to be vulnerable. It's crazy. It's my perspective. You
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Speaker 3: feel about it? How do you feel about it? Anybody
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Speaker 3: fox me over? Would you consider there's a concept project?
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Speaker 1: Conceptual a little bit. It was like a lot of
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Speaker 1: the like it was kind of tied in like at
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Speaker 1: the end of some of the skits, and and then
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Speaker 1: I feel like we get to the end and it's
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Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, it's so good. Which is the
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Speaker 1: is the Because you know, the Shasta record is such
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Speaker 1: a personal song about your mom. I relate to that
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Speaker 1: because my son's mom who just passed away from addiction. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: he like, you know, I was listening to you in
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Speaker 1: the car with him, and I kind of tell he
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Speaker 1: was like, you know, like I feel like that ship.
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Speaker 1: That's the type of record that speaks to so many
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Speaker 1: people who are dealing with having like an unstable parent
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Speaker 1: who's dealing with addiction.
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Speaker 3: Is not just it's not just like for me, it's
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Speaker 3: for everybody, you know what I'm saying. For Like everybody
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Speaker 3: who hear that that's like you said, denner with that
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Speaker 3: or dealt with it at some degree or level of
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Speaker 3: capacity where it's like it's gonna speak to them and
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Speaker 3: they're like, damn, even if it's your son, right, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying to me?
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Speaker 2: I feel like that's important to make records.
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Speaker 1: Is it hard to like, when you're recording a song
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Speaker 1: like that, are you able to record a song like
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Speaker 1: that with a studio full of people?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what it's gonna be. The plan is
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Speaker 2: for it to be performed.
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Speaker 1: The worldwide, right, So I don't give you can't record.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like, yo, I gotta be
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Speaker 1: alone just to lay this one down.
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Speaker 3: I have one song like that. I have one song
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Speaker 3: not on the project, but y'all gonna hear later. But
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Speaker 3: I have one song like that that was like, I
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Speaker 3: just it needs to just be me an engineer.
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Speaker 1: Can't be nobody else.
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Speaker 2: They ain't gonna be able to get through it because
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Speaker 2: it the.
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Speaker 1: Song I heard that maybe want to cry? Yeah? Mm
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Speaker 1: hmmm years ago when I heard it, Yeah, such a
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Speaker 1: good man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like that. Other than that, now I'd
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Speaker 2: be like, oh it is what it is.
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Speaker 1: Was miles away from Heaven you wrapping from the perspective.
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Speaker 3: Of your mom no no na, like someone where the
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Speaker 3: perspective is messed up where people think like my mom
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Speaker 3: was a was a drug adud and my mom is
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Speaker 3: an alcoholic and my mom suffered from schizophrenia and like depression anxiety,
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Speaker 3: like that type of shit.
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Speaker 2: So it's like that's what flas Shots about.
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Speaker 3: Flat Shots is a song about like somebody missing they
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Speaker 3: screws or like yeah, and then bubbles bubbles growing.
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Speaker 1: You would only know this too, right because like alcohol
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Speaker 1: adds to those metal disorders and like an insane way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it.
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Speaker 2: Get crazy, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So but it gives me it when you know what's wrong,
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Speaker 3: it makes you able to be able to give them grace,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. For one and then but
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Speaker 3: like miles Away from Heaven is more so like my
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Speaker 3: other family that's dealing with addiction, where it's like those
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Speaker 3: perspectives second verses more to me where it's like depression
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Speaker 3: anxiety and shit like that when I used to be
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Speaker 3: I'm not no more.
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Speaker 2: I'm in a good space. I'm good. That was like
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Speaker 2: years ago, but in that timeframe now, I'm like, straight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like you had to get through
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Speaker 1: because you've had so much grief and so much shit
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Speaker 1: to deal with? I mean, fuck, if you listen to
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Speaker 1: this album and like you didn't know anything about Ravone
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Speaker 1: and be like, damn, this motherfucker's been through a lot
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Speaker 1: of it. Motherfucker.
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Speaker 3: Like, man, I want to give you a hug. I'm like,
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Speaker 3: I'm good, right, they seem I'm like, I'm good, right,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You mean me, I'm good.
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Speaker 3: I don't have no It was.
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Speaker 1: For you, like, because this has been like such a
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Speaker 1: journey since you signed a TD to get like I said,
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Speaker 1: to kind of get to this pobous you've been on
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Speaker 1: tour was a and you know you've had viral moments
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Speaker 1: and people know you, you know what I mean. But like,
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Speaker 1: was this like that like your first project under TD,
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Speaker 1: where you feel like you kind of like like let
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Speaker 1: people in for real?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like this the most vulnerable I've ever
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Speaker 3: been in music like period, even on my old freestyles.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't this vulnerable where it's like and making them songs.
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Speaker 3: It was just freestyles. Now these are songs that people
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Speaker 3: can keep playing over and over and over and over
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Speaker 3: and over and over. But that's kind of like the
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Speaker 3: space I was in when I was making that, Like
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just be me, unapologetically give vulnerability as much
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Speaker 3: as I can for myself and then put it out
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Speaker 3: people with.
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Speaker 1: You should really get beat with the boiled extension cord.
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Speaker 2: I didn't say me, I said my cousin.
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Speaker 1: But they used to boil the extension cord.
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Speaker 3: My auntie heard me in my face for the bottle
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Speaker 3: and said sorry when the damage was done and actuality
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Speaker 3: was really posed to land on her son billed the
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Speaker 3: extension cords to beat him on his back.
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Speaker 2: So it's stune, it's real life, like real right here.
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Speaker 3: There's a little his car, yeah, like and then my
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Speaker 3: eyes like if I cool my eyes like she threw
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Speaker 3: a bottle, was trying to hit him, and that ship
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Speaker 3: broke on me. I never told my mom my mom
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Speaker 3: would to beat the ship out of Oh yeah, that's
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Speaker 3: the thing.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing that she pulled you off to the side,
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Speaker 1: says look, she didn't tell me that.
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Speaker 3: I just knew you kind of knew. I knew my
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Speaker 3: mom would have beat the ship out of her. So
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm never even gonna tell her my mom
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Speaker 3: would have beat the fuck out that woman. What did
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Speaker 3: you what did you tell your fighting with my cousins
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Speaker 3: playing we was playing the sure and she kind of like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, just let it go, but yeah, that's what happened.
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Speaker 3: But that day she like boiled the extension cord beating
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Speaker 3: put him up against the wall.
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Speaker 1: On the Devil's wife.
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Speaker 2: Motherfucker. I'm like, oh, Ship, I don't want to come
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Speaker 2: over here, the more.
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Speaker 1: It would be the last time I come over here.
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Speaker 2: And I'm over here and what your Nigga's crazy?
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Speaker 1: I'm linking and watching my kids. It's crazy to get
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Speaker 1: fed up with an extens crazy Holy Ship, are you
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Speaker 1: still tight with this aunt? She is? She still around?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's still around, But like we ain't. We ain't
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Speaker 3: really tight. We just like she's around. Yeah, yeah that
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Speaker 3: makes sense, that makes sense. Yeah, no, it's it's It's
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Speaker 3: fucking an amazing album. And I love some of these
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Speaker 3: feature choices, like I love to see you working with
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Speaker 3: you know tomorrow someone who's she's so far incredible.
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Speaker 2: She's fire. I've seen her.
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Speaker 3: On on this tour with I was on the tour
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Speaker 3: with A and then she popped, like she popped. I'm like,
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Speaker 3: this girl, I wanted to see what she brought. And
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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, oh yeah, she fired. Immediately I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 3: she fired. Then I found out we got the same birthday.
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Speaker 3: Oh you guess the same day, Like oh yeah, it's over,
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Speaker 3: like and then we just locked in. Me and I
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Speaker 3: have just been friends ever since. She's so talented, like
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Speaker 3: she's like one of those people who like I see
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Speaker 3: me like growing with you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I try, I try to get most of the signer
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Speaker 1: like four years ago. That happens. Yeah, and then he
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Speaker 1: hit me like two years ago, was like, yo, she's
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Speaker 1: still about, Like I think she's I don't think sobody,
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Speaker 1: it's too late. I think he's too late. But up
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Speaker 1: he get missed out man, He said, yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: it's yeah, but hey, talk to me fast forward albums out.
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Speaker 1: It's doing well. You're the kind of the flag waiver
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Speaker 1: of this this West Coast movement against Joey Badass that
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Speaker 1: happened a couple of weeks ago, and I think it
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Speaker 1: was all in good Sport, by the way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it wasn't it It started in January?
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Speaker 1: No, I know, but but I feel like obviously the
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Speaker 1: cipher responded, cipher came, responded.
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Speaker 3: He finally responded after like three months, and then like
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Speaker 3: that's kind of like.
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Speaker 2: Oh right, you know what I'm saying, so that you're
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Speaker 2: definitely right.
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Speaker 1: It was almost like the cipher was like the point
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Speaker 1: of like Okay, the cipher's out and that's it kind
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Speaker 1: of just stirred up everything again. Yeah, yeah, brought it
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Speaker 1: back up.
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Speaker 3: He responded, was like okay, well I'm not gonna say
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Speaker 3: anything else until he respond responded and then his eye
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Speaker 3: for so now we're in gaze.
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Speaker 1: I did.
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Speaker 2: That was That's what it was.
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Speaker 3: I just felt like it was a I feel like
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Speaker 3: it was it was in good Sport. I just feel
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Speaker 3: like it got muddy with everybody else being involved. That's
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Speaker 3: that's kind of like where it's like I don't I
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Speaker 3: don't because it looks it's gonna look a certain way
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Speaker 3: because like.
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Speaker 2: On one person. So it's kind of like it just.
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Speaker 1: Felt like everybody was like throwing their hat in the ring,
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Speaker 1: and I understand to a certain extent, like, but at
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Speaker 1: the same time, it was like, it's just like you said,
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Speaker 1: it became muddy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just got muddy to where it's like I
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Speaker 3: for showed the noise because he was kind of the
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Speaker 3: only guy standing over there. And if you're getting packed
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Speaker 3: out and like staying and you're standing up and you
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Speaker 3: don't fall, niggas gonna all automatically look at you, like.
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Speaker 1: And then Joey fucking got the funk. I mean, joe
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Speaker 1: is one of the great.
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Speaker 3: That's that's what I said. I was telling somebody. I'm like,
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Speaker 3: first of all sport, it's not even no real beef
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Speaker 3: me and him doing.
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Speaker 1: Like of course, I'm sure if you guys saw each
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Speaker 1: other today, it'd be you guys talk about each other
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Speaker 1: like yeah, that line was crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.
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Speaker 3: It's not like no no space of like like he
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Speaker 3: he trying to kill somebody on time. It's not that
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Speaker 3: he ain't we ain't on that. It's rap. It's real rap.
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Speaker 3: It's real rap though, don't get it twisted. It's like
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, it's real rap, but from
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Speaker 3: a space of like it's good for the sport. We
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Speaker 3: got all the fucking podcasters, we got all the hip
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Speaker 3: hop media talking about hip hop, not get ready to line,
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Speaker 3: not who's texting who? Not, who's fucking Who's man? It's
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Speaker 3: hip hop? Yeah, great hip hop. Whereas like everybody else
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Speaker 3: who jumped in, they still they got more like than
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Speaker 3: they've ever had in their career.
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Speaker 2: Too.
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Speaker 3: You're getting reviewed and uh reacted to by people with
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Speaker 3: millions of views. So for me being like the again,
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Speaker 3: the flagship nigga of that, whereas like I'm the person
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Speaker 3: who felt the way the most, and I'm the person
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Speaker 3: who jumped out the face and said, so I fuck
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Speaker 3: with the fact, Like I'm one of the reasons that
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Speaker 3: niggas felt.
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Speaker 2: Compelled to like, no, let's rap, let's rapp. I'm all
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Speaker 2: for that. It was all sport, it's all you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, It's all good.
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Speaker 1: My favorite record that you dropped was the Golden Ny
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Speaker 1: One Disrespectful Him. Yeah, it was good. Disrespectful. Yeah. What
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Speaker 1: was your favorite Joey record?
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Speaker 2: Finals? Hard Finals? Probably my favorite Joey record.
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Speaker 3: I liked Crash Nummy though Crash was sick cool, Like
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Speaker 3: it's just it's I like the hook and I like
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Speaker 3: the beat.
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Speaker 1: I feel like the beat was just automatic.
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Speaker 3: Like when he brings in loaded Lucks, are you like,
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Speaker 3: I hope you don't say nothing about me.
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Speaker 1: Loaded Lux is different Loaded LUs. I feel like a
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Speaker 1: loaded Lux daylight think is really what we gotta Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that was more a daylight for sure.
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Speaker 3: I ain't did nothing to this man, right right right
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Speaker 3: right fuck it like I'm gonna thuk it out.
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Speaker 2: It's just like allright, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think it was pretty evident, like yo, this is
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Speaker 1: all like you know, at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: like abs So and Joey, I went to that tour
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Speaker 1: to when they were on tour together. I went to
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Speaker 1: that show. You know, I interviewed both of those guys
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Speaker 1: on the same tour bus that that tour. So I
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Speaker 1: thought I was dope that that cipher came out and
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Speaker 1: it kind of showed everybody like this is hip hop.
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Speaker 1: This is some rap ship. It's hip hop.
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Speaker 3: It's like rap, we can do it. He'll say it
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Speaker 3: in front of it like it's just it's hip hop.
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Speaker 3: So it's just it was good for the sport and
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Speaker 3: the TDST ship.
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Speaker 1: I was I wonder what Top thinks about this what
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Speaker 1: the TD East it got the he got the LLC
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Speaker 1: in the website.
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Speaker 3: Oh, like that's shit funny, Like this Sh'S hilarious. We
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Speaker 3: laugh like it's like, oh he trolling. He laughed at
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Speaker 3: that ship like it's funny. It's not like we don't.
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Speaker 3: Like I said, it just is what it is hip
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Speaker 3: hop and and most like most importantly, we got everybody
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Speaker 3: tuned in to hip hop. What I'm saying, I feel
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Speaker 3: like people started tuning in late. They're like, oh, what's
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Speaker 3: next going on? Like bro, it was like thirty eight
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Speaker 3: songs dropped in like four days.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it was a lot to the output. Was Were
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Speaker 1: you just like on standby with a mic?
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Speaker 3: I was out of town, like doing doing business, so
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Speaker 3: like it just it just was like I'm like finding studios, So.
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Speaker 1: You're just like, yo, I gotta get that. You're not
11:56
Speaker 1: like Scarlett in the hotel room with a shitty mic,
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Speaker 1: Like we gotta fucking yeah. Were you like proactively like
12:01
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do five today just just in case I couldn't.
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Speaker 2: There's too much stuff going on.
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Speaker 1: It's a lot.
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Speaker 3: So it's like for me what I had going on,
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Speaker 3: I wish you know what I'm saying, but it was
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Speaker 3: it was overall.
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Speaker 2: I feel like it was like it's like I said,
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Speaker 2: it's just to me.
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Speaker 3: The only thing that made me like because it gets
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Speaker 3: much so money where it's like, damn, I can't even
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Speaker 3: get the fair one for sure, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: But other than that, like, well, thank.
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Speaker 1: You man, thank you, because as a hip hop fan, I.
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Speaker 3: Enjoyed everybody tuned in, everybody like, yo, this rap, this
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Speaker 3: is what we're here for.
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Speaker 2: So I'm me personally like I enjoyed what it was.
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Speaker 1: Right right right right, for sure, you got with l
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Speaker 1: Russell on this new project too. Who's somebody who's by
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Speaker 1: the way. Nobody in the bay replied, it's interesting.
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Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: You said, Nobody from the bay replied to.
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Speaker 1: The Joey things, Yeah, I think symbol was close. A
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Speaker 1: symbol might have. He didn't reply, but I know he
12:58
Speaker 1: thought about it. He probably did. You know. He was
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Speaker 1: here and he was like should I And I told
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Speaker 1: him I said, don't do it.
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Speaker 3: Because this is not for you money. But but if
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Speaker 3: you would, if I would have respected it, like yeah,
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Speaker 3: I get it. Everybody who wanted to get something, they
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Speaker 3: get the sh off. I think I seen the son
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Speaker 3: that made me like, I think it was gap Dad.
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Speaker 1: He's he had a point where he was like, yo, man, I.
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Speaker 2: Don't think that was a good point.
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Speaker 3: I feel like it was like Jada, like you with them,
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Speaker 3: it's like did y'all that's y'all fight?
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I think when we
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Speaker 1: think of West Coast sometimes like it's still on one coach.
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Speaker 1: I agree shout out to you know, I always say
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Speaker 1: Arizona's west coast, West coast.
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Speaker 3: West coast just felt like that, and I'm like me
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Speaker 3: being a flagship Nigga.
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Speaker 1: Is like it felt. But it did feel like to
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Speaker 1: me l a ship low key. It felt like everybody
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Speaker 1: from l A. Even though that's because everybody from la
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Speaker 1: is jumping in. We're not talking about responding to what
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Speaker 1: he said though the inn everywhere line. Yeah, on what
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Speaker 1: the actual problem is because it's so many other people.
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Speaker 1: The actual problem is he literally disrespected the West Coast,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So anybody who jumped in,
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Speaker 1: that's why it's like muddy, but it's still like fair
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Speaker 1: because you disrespected the West Coast.
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Speaker 3: Entire like entirety. So if anybody else jump in. That's
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Speaker 3: what it is, you know what I'm saying. But it
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Speaker 3: just gets muddy when it's too many people on one
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Speaker 3: person for sure. But I'm saying for that common When
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Speaker 3: he said that, I was just like, damn. They kind
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Speaker 3: of like look like if a nigga got his opinion
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Speaker 3: of like oh who, they feel like, oh this this,
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Speaker 3: this wins as whatever your case is. Well, when it's like,
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Speaker 3: oh that's you all fight is like I was just like,
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Speaker 3: damn that kind of like for sure on my head
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Speaker 3: at it.
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Speaker 1: Yo, we got to stop the interview to tell you
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Speaker 2: Now oh we went we went in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went up there and I need to like
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17:08
Speaker 3: up there. It's amazing, right, yeah, me and me, we drove.
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17:11
Speaker 1: Oh, his compound. Oh you got to do the crib.
17:14
Speaker 1: The crib in Vallejo. Crazy.
17:16
Speaker 2: Then he had it like a compound like basketball court
17:19
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17:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, studios all this other sh is that good company? Shit?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So his house he grew up in is where he
17:26
Speaker 1: has the shows in Vallejo. And we went, I don't know,
17:31
Speaker 1: three years ago, three and a half years ago when
17:33
Speaker 1: he first started, and like he's still in his bedroom,
17:36
Speaker 1: Like it's so funny to see his bedroom is his studio.
17:40
Speaker 1: But it also was like there's like a whiteboard where
17:42
Speaker 1: he broke down like a calendar of like what's going
17:45
Speaker 1: to get posted every day, and it was just like
17:48
Speaker 1: it was just crazy because it's like this really, this
17:50
Speaker 1: fool is like really just creating his own playbook and
17:52
Speaker 1: like fuck you if you like it, if you don't
17:54
Speaker 1: like it, it doesn't matter. You know.
17:55
Speaker 3: He really innovative, and I'm like, when I've seen that,
17:57
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Speaker 3: the Yeah, he like he really trying to figure it out.
18:01
Speaker 2: And I'll fuck with him for that heavy.
18:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
18:03
Speaker 3: I went up there. He did that ship. We made
18:05
Speaker 3: like three songs. Yeah, he's quick. He's quick. He's very quick.
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Speaker 1: Go you don't overthink it, all right, go to the
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Speaker 1: next one. Yeah. Yeah, No, it's crazy, man. Different for me.
18:13
Speaker 3: I'll be in a mother fucker Like I got to
18:15
Speaker 3: make sure the double on tondre connects.
18:17
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I just like everything about it,
18:20
Speaker 2: but that nigga fire.
18:23
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you've done a really good
18:25
Speaker 1: job of like creating another revenue stream the last like
18:27
Speaker 1: six years or so writing for a lot of artists.
18:32
Speaker 1: Are you still in that bag? Are you? Like fully,
18:34
Speaker 1: I'm just getting back into it.
18:35
Speaker 3: I kind of like stepped away from it, Like I
18:36
Speaker 3: kind of like I for trying to focus on my
18:39
Speaker 3: ship so I don't give nobody a hit.
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Speaker 2: Please, that's kind like I think I was.
18:42
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to the point where I was
18:43
Speaker 1: gonna say, please just focus on your ship and say
18:45
Speaker 1: we get this project.
18:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just me. So it's like this is just
18:48
Speaker 3: me locked in on me. But then when it's like, oh,
18:50
Speaker 3: other time, it's like marketing this tour, right even me,
18:54
Speaker 3: like selling tickets is like other shit. I'm not even
18:57
Speaker 3: giving a fuck about the studio. But if somebody needs
18:59
Speaker 3: me into like for them, than it's cool. But my
19:01
Speaker 3: own project, I'm not in.
19:02
Speaker 1: This space to be. But you've written for like I mean,
19:04
Speaker 1: when you've reaan for Hello people, Yeah, but when you
19:06
Speaker 1: write for like, let's say, Danny lay H, you put
19:09
Speaker 1: yourself mentally in the perspective of a female. Yeah. The
19:13
Speaker 1: great writers are able to kind of write from those perspectives.
19:15
Speaker 1: Do you ever have an idea or you see some
19:18
Speaker 1: shit going on and you're like, oh shit, that'd be
19:20
Speaker 1: crazy if someone rose. I mean, it's not my song,
19:21
Speaker 1: but I got the idea. I'm gonna put it in
19:23
Speaker 1: my notes, like I want to write this song for
19:25
Speaker 1: someone else to sing.
19:26
Speaker 3: I probably have, but it's not often. I try not
19:29
Speaker 3: to think about studio when I'm not in the studio.
19:31
Speaker 3: It's more like you got to be in with that person. Yeah,
19:33
Speaker 3: I gotta be in with that person because they feel
19:34
Speaker 3: more connected to it when they feel like you wrote
19:37
Speaker 3: they wrote it with you, and it's like, oh, I'm
19:39
Speaker 3: connected with it. Because if you just come in like hey, here, here, here,
19:42
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Speaker 2: The most interesting.
20:18
Speaker 3: I can't even say, because they own people don't know
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Speaker 3: that they have writers.
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Speaker 1: Oh ship man, I'll say the craziest session I've seen
20:24
Speaker 1: you at what the fucking game? When he was at
20:27
Speaker 1: he had Chalice on lock for the Oh my god,
20:29
Speaker 1: it was like fucking a million people and it was
20:32
Speaker 1: like just Cipher's cracking off in the fucking studio. Fucking
20:37
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20:40
Speaker 1: That happened to you? I gotta ask, I don't know
20:44
Speaker 1: that's a problem. Did that happen to somebody? Yeah? Oh yeah,
20:47
Speaker 1: that's rough.
20:48
Speaker 2: Like you walk in see Washington and seen his girly there.
20:53
Speaker 1: I hope they weren't together too long. I hope they
20:55
Speaker 1: I hope they don't save children. I could share some
20:57
Speaker 1: children if that city. Did he crash how and now
21:00
Speaker 1: he didn't crash out?
21:01
Speaker 3: He tried to keep it like composure, but it's like
21:04
Speaker 3: thirty niggas in there, and it was like, oh my god,
21:07
Speaker 3: your girl part of the hose.
21:08
Speaker 1: I'd have melted.
21:09
Speaker 2: I'm would have crashed ouse.
21:11
Speaker 1: Autogra I mean respectfully auto grab her hand and been like,
21:15
Speaker 1: can I talk to you outside?
21:16
Speaker 2: I don't eve want to talk?
21:17
Speaker 3: What we need to talk about, bitch, we over. She
21:19
Speaker 3: already know that when she's seen me walking get your
21:21
Speaker 3: ship over here. Now she seen me walk through the doors,
21:23
Speaker 3: she would already know that.
21:24
Speaker 1: Like, oh, oh, I see what you're on clap City.
21:28
Speaker 1: Huh huh. This isn't where you told me you were
21:30
Speaker 1: going to be tonight. I mean you here, what did
21:34
Speaker 1: you think of the complex? List of LA rappers that
21:38
Speaker 1: came out. Do you think you deserve to be in
21:42
Speaker 1: the fifty yet in the fifty.
21:44
Speaker 3: I don't think I deserve. I'm working for what I
21:46
Speaker 3: deserve right now. I feel like if they do the cool.
21:49
Speaker 1: I respect that because I think I've seen a lot
21:51
Speaker 1: of rappers angry that they didn't make that list that I've.
21:53
Speaker 2: A funk about nobody lists.
21:55
Speaker 1: Well. Also like a lot of people who are like
21:56
Speaker 1: certainly like hey, like you're great, like you're fine, like
21:59
Speaker 1: but like you're at the beginning of your last I.
22:01
Speaker 2: Just started my legacy.
22:02
Speaker 3: I don't give a funk about nobody lists right gratefully, like,
22:05
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
22:05
Speaker 2: I was on all the games.
22:07
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
22:07
Speaker 3: But that's because he knows me, so he's like, bro.
22:10
Speaker 3: Once they see what I see, it's over. I don't
22:13
Speaker 3: care about that ship though I don't know. I don't
22:14
Speaker 3: get wrapped up in people lists. I don't give at
22:16
Speaker 3: The only nigga lists who pissed me off that was
22:19
Speaker 3: able to get into my skin was was the Nigga
22:21
Speaker 3: Day John Paul.
22:24
Speaker 1: He does work hard. Where did he give you give me?
22:26
Speaker 3: Like a d or a f I'm like, Nigga, I'm
22:28
Speaker 3: really better than a lot of these niggas.
22:30
Speaker 1: That's why, you know what I'm saying.
22:31
Speaker 3: So I was like, but I think it was because
22:32
Speaker 3: I haven't dropped so when I dropped music, he kind
22:35
Speaker 3: of was like, oh, okay, okay.
22:37
Speaker 1: I've never met that guy, but you know he's still
22:41
Speaker 1: doing his thing. And yeah, you know he had a
22:44
Speaker 1: thing with DJ Head, which kind of keeps him all
22:45
Speaker 1: the way over there. For me, his head's like my brother. Yeah. Yeah,
22:50
Speaker 1: I feel like the top three is the only thing
22:52
Speaker 1: that you can't really Would you put Tupac in the
22:54
Speaker 1: l A list though, because I say no, because I
22:56
Speaker 1: feel like he got cracking in the bay first.
23:00
Speaker 3: For LA list, I'm gonna put two back on it. Okay,
23:04
Speaker 3: I don't put two back on it. I won't put
23:05
Speaker 3: two back on the list and make sure that.
23:10
Speaker 1: There's one flag making my life living hell right now.
23:12
Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, Tupac for sure two pots on
23:14
Speaker 3: that list period to me. On that list though, number
23:17
Speaker 3: one of like West Coast rappers Snoop, I think I
23:21
Speaker 3: think the most like influential, like notable artists from the
23:27
Speaker 3: West that he can go anywhere on in the country.
23:30
Speaker 2: Everybody know who he is.
23:31
Speaker 1: No matter what, he's definitely top two or three most
23:36
Speaker 1: famous person on the planet.
23:38
Speaker 2: So if he's that, how is he not who's bigger
23:40
Speaker 2: than him? In the West Coast rap? Who's bigger than him?
23:44
Speaker 3: We're not talking about skills, We're talking about who's bigger
23:47
Speaker 3: than Snoop Dogg.
23:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you like look at the criteria.
23:50
Speaker 1: I think if you look at isn't I feel like
23:54
Speaker 1: that the top three to me is undisputed in any
23:57
Speaker 1: you could just because it's ice Cube, Snoop, Kendrick. However
24:01
Speaker 1: you feel about where those three should be, those are
24:04
Speaker 1: the three. Outside of that, I'm not mad at that. Tupac,
24:08
Speaker 1: you can make it. I mean, I just I don't
24:09
Speaker 1: I think Tupac, you know, like you had like a cool,
24:12
Speaker 1: like two year run in LA you know what I'm saying.
24:14
Speaker 2: I'm oud at that. I'm literally not out at that.
24:16
Speaker 1: But Q was like NW a five Mike album, you know,
24:21
Speaker 1: movies also very famous.
24:22
Speaker 2: Like I'm not I'm not mad at that.
24:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think the top two is Kendrick
24:27
Speaker 1: and Snoop. Personally, I wasn't mad at it because I
24:29
Speaker 1: think Kendrick's the third greatest rapper of all time at
24:32
Speaker 1: this point. So that's OK. Were you you were able
24:37
Speaker 1: to go to the UH Grand National Tour fire, Yeah,
24:40
Speaker 1: it was pretty great. Would you get do you still
24:42
Speaker 1: get inspired when you see Ship?
24:43
Speaker 3: Like yeah, you go, I go and I see like
24:45
Speaker 3: you see you see Kendrick doing that, and you're like, damn,
24:47
Speaker 3: I want to be This is a stadium.
24:50
Speaker 1: And it's rap and you know these people, it's a stadium.
24:53
Speaker 1: That's the craziesth it is. They're like, wait a minute,
24:55
Speaker 1: I'm so close to this situation. It's got to be
24:58
Speaker 1: like I'm really like I'm within the arms reach, right, Ship,
25:02
Speaker 1: I can.
25:02
Speaker 3: Call him, It's possible. I can call him, right, I
25:06
Speaker 3: can call him. I'm on the phone with him when
25:08
Speaker 3: when I'm going at Joe, Ay fuck with this. So
25:12
Speaker 3: you're getting feedback, Yeah, I always get feedback. You don't,
25:14
Speaker 3: Ship still don't come out just like like it's just
25:17
Speaker 3: it don't.
25:17
Speaker 2: It's still got a protocol. Everything gotta get it.
25:20
Speaker 1: Like, was there anything that you that Kendrick any notes
25:23
Speaker 1: Kendrick gave you about any of the records, Like.
25:28
Speaker 2: If anything is like take something out.
25:30
Speaker 1: I can't take that out. Like maybe it's a little
25:32
Speaker 1: too far. No, no, but just like a libs like
25:36
Speaker 1: take them out, libs out. That's interesting.
25:41
Speaker 2: It ain't never if it wasn't like it's like or
25:43
Speaker 2: if it's not, it just.
25:43
Speaker 1: Didn't come out, that's great. So there were records that
25:46
Speaker 1: you cut that he's didn't fuck with, You're like, I
25:48
Speaker 1: got you something else.
25:49
Speaker 2: Not just he didn't funk with.
25:49
Speaker 3: It's just like, Okay, it's like before Golden and I
25:52
Speaker 3: come out, it's like these these other records is like, oh,
25:55
Speaker 3: we could do this and that's not a good a
25:57
Speaker 3: golden nice fire. But I'm saying like it's still it's
26:00
Speaker 3: still the way we run TD is still the same same,
26:04
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying down the line and like, oh,
26:06
Speaker 3: because you're still speaking when they post it is going on.
26:08
Speaker 1: TD page, going on TD's YouTube.
26:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what I'm saying, it's like, Nigga, you're speaking
26:12
Speaker 3: and it's coming from marside.
26:14
Speaker 2: So make sure that we all got.
26:15
Speaker 1: To make sure if that logo is there, everyone's got
26:18
Speaker 1: to feel good about it. Correct. What about Soul? Did
26:21
Speaker 1: Sold give you any any pointers? Yeah?
26:23
Speaker 3: So you know, so it's like you can't really go
26:26
Speaker 3: too far because, like you know what I'm saying, they boys,
26:27
Speaker 3: So it's like yeah.
26:29
Speaker 1: Exactly, And like a lot of people say he's the
26:31
Speaker 1: real boogie man, which I agree with. So apsol is
26:33
Speaker 1: a fucking alien. He's like a rap fucking savant like
26:37
Speaker 1: rain Man. If you will, I'm fucking weak. Yeah you
26:40
Speaker 1: know rain Man. You ever watched rain Man, the guy
26:42
Speaker 1: who's kind of autistic but can play cards and count cards.
26:45
Speaker 1: Why are you referring that to that? I mean because
26:47
Speaker 1: he's like he's got autism of bars. He's so like
26:50
Speaker 1: he's so like honed in, it's crazy. He's like the
26:53
Speaker 1: rain Man of rap, the way that rain Man. Will
26:57
Speaker 1: you know the rain Man movie where the guy's a
26:59
Speaker 1: he's a card counter, but of hip hop. It's not fair,
27:03
Speaker 1: It's what I'm trying to say. Nah, Like, if you
27:05
Speaker 1: go to a casino with a guy who counts cards,
27:08
Speaker 1: he's gonna win. Yeah, it's not fair. That's that's absolutely
27:11
Speaker 1: it's not fair. He's he's counting cards. Shout out to
27:15
Speaker 1: soul Man, Yeah, shout out. So is top as cheap as?
27:19
Speaker 4: Uh?
27:20
Speaker 1: The Southwest flight story is, is he is he that guy?
27:22
Speaker 1: He's he's he's I don't think it's cheap. I think
27:24
Speaker 1: it's fogol and smart Financially, I'm.
27:27
Speaker 3: Not spending tho ten bands on a ticket when I
27:29
Speaker 3: could spend one hundreds on that same ticket.
27:31
Speaker 1: It's for a forty fucking minutes flight.
27:33
Speaker 3: Just could you want to pop it on a take
27:35
Speaker 3: that exactly? If it was me, I on me, I'd
27:38
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, can I put a scheme mass on
27:40
Speaker 3: the airport because I'm causing too much controversy, like like
27:42
Speaker 3: controversial chaos. Can I put a ski maths on and
27:45
Speaker 3: move through the airport like that? I would rather because
27:47
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I don't want to spend forty
27:49
Speaker 3: thou fifty thousand DJs and all that I don't want.
27:51
Speaker 1: I'm I wish more artists would would like think that
27:56
Speaker 1: way because they'd have like, you know, we see a
27:57
Speaker 1: lot of artists who have all this money and then
27:59
Speaker 1: they end up fucking struggling, and you know they didn't
28:01
Speaker 1: spend doing weed distro six million bullshit. Pj's like you'll
28:09
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28:11
Speaker 1: you fuck some money off. It's something that you really enjoy.
28:14
Speaker 1: Forty minute flight.
28:14
Speaker 2: I don't want tickets.
28:16
Speaker 1: I think he gets season tickets. So you like, have
28:18
Speaker 1: you ever gone to a game with Yeah?
28:20
Speaker 2: Not with talk?
28:21
Speaker 1: Right not yet?
28:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, now we're talk. He sent me to a game
28:24
Speaker 3: next season. Oh you can go to a going you
28:27
Speaker 3: you're a Laker fan, right of course? Do anything else? No,
28:30
Speaker 3: you could be a Clippers fan. I guess, have you
28:33
Speaker 3: anything La? I'm like, whatever, have you been into it?
28:36
Speaker 2: Uh huh?
28:37
Speaker 1: It's a great, great best to reading in La into
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Speaker 1: from so far. M dude, that ships.
28:46
Speaker 2: I ain't never been to a Clippers game. I just
28:48
Speaker 2: went to Concerence there be.
28:49
Speaker 1: I don't know. Honestly, I went to the Clippers game
28:53
Speaker 1: when the Suns defeated them in the Western Conference finals,
28:55
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28:57
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Speaker 1: We talk about this being a mixtape. It feels like
30:09
Speaker 1: a debut album, but it's a mixtape.
30:11
Speaker 2: It's ape.
30:12
Speaker 1: When is the day like like, you know, we talked
30:14
Speaker 1: about the song that you were talking about Elier you
30:16
Speaker 1: needed to be alone in this album.
30:17
Speaker 3: That's on the album, but the album is more like
30:20
Speaker 3: we're worried about like not worried, but that'll be like
30:23
Speaker 3: when I focus on singles, that'll be when I'm like, Yo,
30:25
Speaker 3: it needs records, it needs hits on here, A need
30:28
Speaker 3: stuff that's gonna take this album number one right now.
30:31
Speaker 3: That project that I just dropped was just me just
30:33
Speaker 3: being free. But I have the freedom to do that,
30:36
Speaker 3: being like, Okay, well, I feel like the.
30:38
Speaker 1: Debut album has to be this, but with some a
30:42
Speaker 1: couple of singles this with his Yeah, that's literally what
30:45
Speaker 1: it is like. You're sitting on so many records though
30:48
Speaker 1: that you guys have played me over the years that
30:50
Speaker 1: you had with artists who had you maybe drop those songs.
30:54
Speaker 1: At the time, those artists were like super scorching hot,
30:59
Speaker 1: you know, might have been maybe fast forward today, maybe
31:02
Speaker 1: some of these are songs that you're sitting on. The
31:04
Speaker 1: artists that you did the records with May.
31:05
Speaker 3: Maybe it's but I don't feel like my project would
31:07
Speaker 3: have been as like potent as it is right now,
31:09
Speaker 3: right where it's like go finding, like what I want
31:11
Speaker 3: to talk about?
31:12
Speaker 2: What do those do?
31:12
Speaker 3: Those songs just go into the abyss, not the ones
31:15
Speaker 3: that's his because they timeless, the ones that's time that's
31:17
Speaker 3: hits right, they're gonna, they're gonna, we can put them
31:19
Speaker 3: out of any time. Yeah, I think we know what
31:21
Speaker 3: they are. So it's like, oh, that's kind of like
31:22
Speaker 3: a but other people don't see it like that.
31:24
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
31:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've I feel like you've been in I guess
31:30
Speaker 1: the closest thing to like artists boot camp is and
31:33
Speaker 1: any artists can be just training for like this this
31:37
Speaker 1: moment your dad for sure. Uh at a certain point
31:41
Speaker 1: in time. Is that ever frustrating you? Yeah?
31:45
Speaker 3: Frustating because you're like, you know you you want to
31:47
Speaker 3: go if you especially if you're competitive like me.
31:49
Speaker 2: Or you're like a fucking like you just like you
31:51
Speaker 2: just on't go.
31:52
Speaker 3: I'll be trying to be on go, but it's like
31:54
Speaker 3: you don't run your own program, and that kind of
31:56
Speaker 3: like it usually got to trust your team and that's
31:58
Speaker 3: that's that space.
31:59
Speaker 1: Is kind of trust the process.
32:01
Speaker 3: That's and it's hard to do when you're in this space,
32:03
Speaker 3: like you know, when you really want to just you
32:05
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, But trusting your team is like
32:07
Speaker 3: what you gotta do.
32:08
Speaker 1: And it's like the proof is kind of in the pudding,
32:10
Speaker 1: like the proof of concepts there.
32:11
Speaker 3: It's like, right, you're looking at the people who's like
32:13
Speaker 3: superstars already. It's like again, stadiums, right, do you want
32:17
Speaker 3: to be in stadiums? You want to be at home?
32:19
Speaker 1: Right?
32:20
Speaker 2: And stadiums every time?
32:21
Speaker 1: So one hundred percent, one hundred percent. Are you working
32:24
Speaker 1: on any tour stuff coming up? I'm about to go
32:27
Speaker 1: on tour in July July. Yeah, how many cities?
32:29
Speaker 2: I think four?
32:30
Speaker 1: Oh? I mean that's that's tight.
32:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, so West Coast, I'm not We're gonna go to
32:34
Speaker 3: New York, We're gonna go to Chicago, We're gonna go
32:36
Speaker 3: to Atlanta, We're gonna come back.
32:38
Speaker 4: To La We get Arizona show. Fuck Bro, I said that,
32:41
Speaker 4: for Fo's sake, Arizona. Literally, I literally said that. I
32:44
Speaker 4: said I told it, like my turn agent like Arizona.
32:48
Speaker 4: I'm like, Bro, I could sell it like your second home. Yeah,
32:50
Speaker 4: I know that's crazy.
32:53
Speaker 1: A five piece man Arizona show will be five The
32:56
Speaker 1: New York showould be crazy. If Joey comes out, you
32:58
Speaker 1: gotta try to get him to come out with somebody
32:59
Speaker 1: else that in the be sick. Like Yo, you got
33:02
Speaker 1: Joey out here, That got Joey out gotta be fire. Well.
33:08
Speaker 1: I don't even know the venues of New York anymore.
33:10
Speaker 3: Fuck they're all I don't even know the vena to
33:11
Speaker 3: my shows. I ain't even even La One's gonna be
33:14
Speaker 3: a movie though.
33:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, la is gonna be crazy period.
33:16
Speaker 1: Who is on your personal personal This is not who
33:19
Speaker 1: you think is the greatest of all time, but your
33:21
Speaker 1: personal Mount Rushmore hip hop Mount Rushmore hip hop just
33:25
Speaker 1: like your go to four guys that are your favorite
33:28
Speaker 1: that like it doesn't matter, like one of my guys
33:30
Speaker 1: is push your tea. You know, I gotta push your
33:32
Speaker 1: tea above probably like ninety nine percent of the world
33:34
Speaker 1: in terms of the greatest of all time because my
33:36
Speaker 1: personal taste.
33:37
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna go Dot for Sure. Yep, I'm
33:43
Speaker 3: gonna go Andre for sure.
33:49
Speaker 1: Stacks.
33:49
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna go Meek for sure, Jada kiss.
33:58
Speaker 1: Me kiss Stack saying Kendrick, I like that, what did
34:03
Speaker 1: you think of Jada's son hopping into the I didn't
34:07
Speaker 1: even hear it. Oh yeah he did his j Yeah,
34:09
Speaker 1: Jada kiss has a son.
34:10
Speaker 3: I'm not even trying to be disrespectful. Funny, I didn't
34:12
Speaker 3: even hear that ship. Yeah, Like I was focusing and
34:15
Speaker 3: on like it's a lot of niggas. The only person
34:17
Speaker 3: I listened to that was from the other side that
34:19
Speaker 3: wasn't Joey's TJ right, because he's a part of the crew.
34:21
Speaker 3: That shit sucked, And I'm not even trying to be disrespectful,
34:26
Speaker 3: like I'm being completely He's like honest. I was like,
34:29
Speaker 3: they let you drop that ship, and I'm not even
34:32
Speaker 3: trying to, like I promise.
34:33
Speaker 1: There was a few songs that came out on each
34:36
Speaker 1: side where I was like, they let you drop that shit.
34:39
Speaker 1: Maybe this isn't for you, you know, you're saying like
34:43
Speaker 1: from from like West Coast side, the people who jumped
34:45
Speaker 1: in trying to go one hundred percent for sure. It
34:48
Speaker 1: got to the point where I was like, and that's
34:49
Speaker 1: what I told Simba, somebody had just dropped because was
34:52
Speaker 1: doing his interview here and had called him and was like, Yo,
34:57
Speaker 1: it's time, and then we started listening. I'm like, simb,
35:00
Speaker 1: but don't do this shit, dog. I was like, this
35:01
Speaker 1: shit is not like just stay out of it.
35:03
Speaker 5: For like everyone's getting in, Like when Jada's son jumps in,
35:07
Speaker 5: you might want to be like everyone's kind of hopping
35:10
Speaker 5: in and trying to take advantage of like a good
35:13
Speaker 5: moment an opportunity.
35:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna get confused because everybody we me and
35:16
Speaker 3: me wasn't a getting like one hundred thousand, two thousand
35:19
Speaker 3: and three hundred thousan views in the.
35:20
Speaker 2: Night where it's like damn if we keep going.
35:23
Speaker 3: But it's just like I could sacrifice that and keep
35:25
Speaker 3: dropping and make three hundred four hundred thousand views, but
35:28
Speaker 3: it's like it's getting so money that it's like it's
35:31
Speaker 3: just a clear point of like reference will be talking
35:34
Speaker 3: about getting lost.
35:35
Speaker 1: There was a dude who came up here the other day,
35:37
Speaker 1: a Mexican guy from La' His name is Westmont Scheme,
35:40
Speaker 1: and he wrapped over calling out names by corrupt and
35:45
Speaker 1: did like an entire freestyle about New York and it
35:48
Speaker 1: was fucking crazy. I wasn't even mad at it. He's like,
35:51
Speaker 1: y'all got uncle murder. We got uncles that murder. I
35:55
Speaker 1: like that.
35:55
Speaker 2: It's a lot. It was a lot.
35:56
Speaker 3: It was good for the culture to oversaw overall. So
35:59
Speaker 3: like when I said, I'm saying it like and then
36:01
Speaker 3: the rest of your catalog goes up. A lot of
36:02
Speaker 3: people are like, oh shit, I just found you because
36:04
Speaker 3: of the project. It's not your project is fire? Like okay, Well,
36:08
Speaker 3: even if you don't like this, is you like, oh
36:10
Speaker 3: this Nigga project was fire, like you know what I'm saying.
36:13
Speaker 2: So to me, I don't.
36:15
Speaker 3: I didn't get wrapped up in it, like I say that,
36:17
Speaker 3: just like I didn't I didn't listen to Jada's son
36:20
Speaker 3: at all because then it'll have been like, Okay, now
36:22
Speaker 3: I gotta fire. It's like and like I said, Jada's
36:24
Speaker 3: one of my I hope he wasn't talking about me,
36:27
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
36:28
Speaker 2: But if he was, like, oh, whatever is rap?
36:30
Speaker 1: What's your favorite song on the project? Yeah, Suburban Kids,
36:36
Speaker 1: it's the outro. Yeah, the Burban Kids.
36:39
Speaker 3: But like that's like the most lyrical, the most everything,
36:41
Speaker 3: Whereas like you just feel.
36:42
Speaker 1: Like like you're telling your story for real, for real.
36:46
Speaker 2: That's shit.
36:46
Speaker 3: That ship is crazy and then the beat switch crazy
36:49
Speaker 3: when people like you think the song about to go
36:51
Speaker 3: off because this is how you expect the project to
36:53
Speaker 3: go off at the beginning, and then it turned into
36:55
Speaker 3: some ship that can give you anxiety?
36:57
Speaker 1: Were you were you really flocking and like'm the like
37:00
Speaker 1: tiptoeing between like the rap game and the you know,
37:03
Speaker 1: ending up in fucking prison for the rest of your life?
37:05
Speaker 2: Yeah?
37:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was was there like an instance or a
37:10
Speaker 1: night or something that happened where you're like, oh my god,
37:12
Speaker 1: like I'm playing with I'm playing with fire here.
37:14
Speaker 3: Nah, I didn't think I that wasn't That's what I
37:16
Speaker 3: went to Joe for. I wasn't like I didn't think that.
37:18
Speaker 3: It was more so like I haven't having a daughter, right,
37:21
Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn when like you know my story.
37:24
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, you've talked about it at length.
37:27
Speaker 2: My Mom'm only here.
37:29
Speaker 3: I'm all that she got me, so she quite literally, Yeah,
37:32
Speaker 3: if I fuck up, is it? And I was it?
37:34
Speaker 3: Other than that, No, I didn't care about that shit, right.
37:37
Speaker 3: We was kids doing that shit right, Yeah?
37:41
Speaker 1: It was was did it was so funny during the
37:44
Speaker 1: cancel Culture era of like twenty twenty one, twenty twenty
37:47
Speaker 1: two or so, that was a real error. That's crazy.
37:49
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they tried to cancel YG for
37:51
Speaker 1: a fucking song on My Crazy Life, Nah, the fucking
37:54
Speaker 1: flopping record All My Crazy Life where he was talking
37:56
Speaker 1: about Robin Asian houses because they don't believe in make
37:59
Speaker 1: it else, but they made they made the label went
38:03
Speaker 1: and silenced like three or four bars out of that song,
38:06
Speaker 1: like after it had been out for like ten years.
38:11
Speaker 1: So if you go listen to that song on My
38:13
Speaker 1: Crazy there's like they silenced partih man. That's what to me,
38:17
Speaker 1: I'm like, can't like that? Ships so weird. It's a
38:20
Speaker 1: classic song in a classic.
38:22
Speaker 3: Years, Like you get into spaces where it's like people
38:24
Speaker 3: feel entitled to be able to I said, I crossed
38:30
Speaker 3: that bridge when I get over there, because to me,
38:32
Speaker 3: I don't really I don't really give a fuck, Like
38:34
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, that's when it's like crash out how
38:36
Speaker 3: my ship was on on GoldenEye. I'm gonna say what
38:39
Speaker 3: the fuck I want to say, And if you feel
38:40
Speaker 3: left type of way, I don't give a fuck, right,
38:42
Speaker 3: Like it's like that shit is crazy. If this only
38:44
Speaker 3: been out ten years, leave it alone. Bringing up somebody
38:47
Speaker 3: lyrics from ten years ago. We could bring up a
38:49
Speaker 3: lot of niggas lyrics, you know, like but they was
38:52
Speaker 3: saying f bombs in it, and it's like, bro, that
38:54
Speaker 3: was just hip hop at the.
38:55
Speaker 1: Hip hop exact and it was also it was also
38:58
Speaker 1: just different. Yeah, it didn't mean it rap music out.
39:01
Speaker 1: Pop culture was different, like you can watch South Park
39:03
Speaker 1: and yeah and White Chicks MTV, White Chicken, all kind
39:06
Speaker 1: of crazy ship that was going on, and people was like,
39:07
Speaker 1: I was like, oh.
39:08
Speaker 2: You let somebody try to make white chicks.
39:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be nice. Though. Do you remember Tropic Thunder? Yeah,
39:14
Speaker 1: when fucking uh what's his face? Robert Downey Junr Was
39:17
Speaker 1: black face the whole movie that ship was like was
39:19
Speaker 1: it Tropic Thunder? Was that? What? Ca? Yeah?
39:21
Speaker 5: Where he was?
39:22
Speaker 1: He played like they had like the fake Vietnam movie. Yes,
39:26
Speaker 1: Jack blacks On, like the jonesper heroin I forgot I
39:29
Speaker 1: know it was Ben Stiller's like, never go full retard.
39:32
Speaker 1: You couldn't say that in a movie now. Also good
39:34
Speaker 1: advice anyway is there is Yo. There's like you and
39:43
Speaker 1: Zay have such a great relationship. How is his new
39:45
Speaker 1: ship sounding. I'm sure you've gotten a little a little,
39:47
Speaker 1: a little, have.
39:48
Speaker 3: You to hear what he's wearing. It is fire like
39:51
Speaker 3: this ship that he's working on. I'm happy for him
39:54
Speaker 3: when that nigga pop out, hes gonna pop out?
39:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, also an alien whit that? Because he's so good,
40:00
Speaker 1: he's like fucking want of like dude, I think I
40:03
Speaker 1: feel like his first project on TD is one of
40:06
Speaker 1: the greatest rap problems of all time. That ever it's
40:08
Speaker 1: talked about demo. Yeah, yeah, that's so fucking this your art.
40:14
Speaker 1: But he got a great catalog. No, his catalog is insane.
40:17
Speaker 1: But I'm saying that album is like, to me, it's
40:19
Speaker 1: in the rafter. It's like it should be talked about more. Yeah,
40:23
Speaker 1: shout out today you guys. Should I feel like, you
40:26
Speaker 1: know what one thing that.
40:27
Speaker 3: That's working on a colla project. Yeah, everybody said that.
40:30
Speaker 3: We get that on the internet a lot, like because.
40:32
Speaker 1: We never got the black hippie thing. It'd be nice
40:34
Speaker 1: to get like the raven Z, you know, some j rock,
40:36
Speaker 1: you know kind of everybody throws their hat in the ring.
40:42
Speaker 1: What do you mean it's a compilation album? Yeah, yeah,
40:44
Speaker 1: y'all gonna get that that's gonna happen. Yeah for sure. Yeah.
40:47
Speaker 1: So there's a TD compilation that's being worked on. Yeah, okay,
40:51
Speaker 1: is this breaking news? No, I didn't know this. We've
40:54
Speaker 1: been out, like we've been talking about that. So but yeah,
40:57
Speaker 1: but talking about music on TD and it actually coming
41:00
Speaker 1: out is very too. So it's like two separate things.
41:03
Speaker 1: The Black Hippie Album was talked about quite a bit.
41:07
Speaker 1: It's now kind of the Kendrick J. Coleship was No, No,
41:13
Speaker 1: I understood why. I'm just saying, you know, it's nice
41:16
Speaker 1: to say, like, yeah, compilations, but is it gonna come
41:19
Speaker 1: out compilations? Fire? Is it done? Mm hmm? I like this.
41:29
Speaker 1: I like this.
41:31
Speaker 2: He give me something to throw out this nigga.
41:32
Speaker 1: Man, don't throw the candle, it's on fire. We'll listen
41:37
Speaker 1: to the projects out Man, The Good, the Bad, the Dollar Menu.
41:40
Speaker 1: Can you break down the title for me? Right? The Bad?
41:45
Speaker 1: The struggle? Origin story? Is this your logan? What what
41:54
Speaker 1: your origin story? Project logan? That's the nigga from X Man.
41:58
Speaker 1: Yeah logan was the origin story for or Wolverine bro?
42:01
Speaker 1: Is this your logan?
42:03
Speaker 3: Nah?
42:03
Speaker 1: This? Uh? Yeah, I guess I don't know.
42:05
Speaker 2: I don't.
42:06
Speaker 1: That's a weird fucking question. I don't uh makes sense
42:09
Speaker 1: though when I say it though, now that you're thinking
42:11
Speaker 1: about it a little.
42:12
Speaker 3: No, I don't know, bro that this project for me,
42:18
Speaker 3: this is like my foundation project. The good, the bad,
42:20
Speaker 3: the dollomenue comes from space. The good, you know, the
42:22
Speaker 3: good ship that happens in the bad bashp dollarm you everything.
42:26
Speaker 3: I'll be a right if you got enough money in
42:28
Speaker 3: your project. If you got enough money, if I can
42:30
Speaker 3: get someone off the domin, you'll be right. Good is
42:31
Speaker 3: like steaks. Bad is like nothing. Dollar manu is cooked down,
42:35
Speaker 3: there's no dollar. You're now exist. But when it's time,
42:38
Speaker 3: when this project is created, like the time I'm trying
42:40
Speaker 3: to put in the capsule is in those for.
42:43
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm saying x l T. Do you remember your
42:47
Speaker 1: favorite dollar menu item? Favorite dollar in your items go mcdonald'
42:51
Speaker 1: streight double cheese maker, the MC double. Yeah. Yeah, you
42:54
Speaker 1: get to mcdouble, the small fry and the dollar coke
42:57
Speaker 1: three bucks, three dollars combo. Put the fries in the
43:00
Speaker 1: fucking mcdouble, and if you're feeling frisky, you get that
43:02
Speaker 1: hot and spicy MC chicken as well.
43:04
Speaker 2: Four dollars made them gang bang?
43:06
Speaker 1: The MC gang bang? What is the MC gang bang?
43:09
Speaker 1: Is that where you put the chicken with the burgers.
43:13
Speaker 1: I kind of want to do that right now. That
43:15
Speaker 1: makes me. That sounds amazing. I never put the chicken
43:18
Speaker 1: patty with of course not Yeah, never could use baby
43:24
Speaker 1: oil ever again. Thinks to that guy anyway, Yo, I
43:28
Speaker 1: mean ship, I can't even go to the store and
43:29
Speaker 1: buy baby oil. If I cannot imagine having a child
43:32
Speaker 1: right now and you actually need to buy a baby oil,
43:34
Speaker 1: you go to the fucking Walgreens, you try to buy
43:36
Speaker 1: yourself a thing of baby stand. They're looking at you crazy.
43:39
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, you got kids? What if I
43:44
Speaker 1: don't fuck anyway? Rayvon Man, incredible body of work. I'm
43:49
Speaker 1: proud of you, bro. This is the music that I
43:51
Speaker 1: know you are. You're sitting on some crazy shit.
43:55
Speaker 2: I got some records.
43:56
Speaker 3: I feel like people right now, like I said, there's
43:58
Speaker 3: a foundation what we said in right now with this project.
44:01
Speaker 2: You know, other people don't know, but.
44:03
Speaker 1: They're gonna You're You're fucking incredible record's gonna come out
44:07
Speaker 1: and your ability to be like vulnerable in your songs
44:10
Speaker 1: and your music is second to none, dude. That's just
44:13
Speaker 1: that's that's like, I don't know if that's a talent
44:15
Speaker 1: as much as it's like some maturity ship. But it's important, man.
44:19
Speaker 1: So thank you for putting this project out and thank
44:22
Speaker 1: you for making hip hop exciting the last two months,
44:25
Speaker 1: month and a half. Yeah, it's been great.
44:27
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. I appreciate it for sure. Yeah,
44:29
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
44:30
Speaker 3: We have we have It was fun, like you feel,
44:32
Speaker 3: I feel like we like we we we we pushed
44:35
Speaker 3: hip hop to the forefront again. I'm saying when Drake
44:38
Speaker 3: then was said, it is hip hop was a forefront
44:40
Speaker 3: you couldn't do. We we stopped the internet to make
44:43
Speaker 3: them focus on rap. That's what it's about hip hop.
44:46
Speaker 3: Hundred are part of hip hop.
44:48
Speaker 1: Yep.
44:48
Speaker 2: I was like, it is what it is.
44:49
Speaker 3: It's all for the sport, for everybody involved, the whole
44:53
Speaker 3: pro the whole East Coast.
44:55
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Who is hip hop?
44:57
Speaker 1: Yeah? Shot to a chat to pro aer shots Ty,
45:00
Speaker 1: the shout out to my guy Ray Vaughn. The album
45:03
Speaker 1: is out, mixtape whatever he wants to call it. To
45:05
Speaker 1: make him feel better about himself. It feels like an album,
45:07
Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely an album, but it's called a
45:09
Speaker 1: mixtape because contractually they got to call it that. I
45:11
Speaker 1: get it anyway, but it's right, but it's right, you know.
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Speaker 1: That's why you and I know it anyway. It's an
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Speaker 1: incredible body of work. Second best album of the year,
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Speaker 1: second number two, number two, not quite number one, but
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Speaker 1: number two. Appreciate you, Rayvar and my Dog