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The Vanishing Act: What Really Happened to Maura Murray · The Infographics Show Podcast

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Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into a mystery that just won't quit.
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Speaker 1: The disappearance of Mora Murray February two thousand and four.
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Speaker 1: Picture this a young nursing student, a thunder bender on
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Speaker 1: a snowy New Hampshire road and then gone vanished just
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Speaker 1: like that. And you guys, you know who you are
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Speaker 1: out there, have given us so much to work through
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Speaker 1: on this one. This case is just packed with twists
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Speaker 1: and turns.
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Speaker 2: It really is.
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Speaker 3: I think what gets me about this case, what makes
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Speaker 3: it so fascinating, is you know, we don't have a
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Speaker 3: clear answer, and because of that, so many different theories.
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Speaker 2: Have popped up.
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Speaker 3: It's like a puzzle, right, but some of the pieces
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Speaker 3: are missing.
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Speaker 2: Everyone's trying to.
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Speaker 1: Fill in the blanks totally. And since there are a
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Speaker 1: lot of blanks to fill in, we got to start
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Speaker 1: with the basics, right, like who was Mora Murray? I mean,
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Speaker 1: beyond the missing person posters, we need to get a
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Speaker 1: sense of who she was.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's key.
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Speaker 3: So from the research, you know, you get this picture
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Speaker 3: of a young woman who is bright, athletic and driven.
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Speaker 3: She even earned a spot at West Point.
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Speaker 1: That's huge, no kidding.
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Speaker 3: But there were also you know, these little hints of
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Speaker 3: trouble kind of lurking beneath the surface.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, like that credit card incident, I mean, using
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Speaker 1: a stolen card to buy food.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one. And it's interesting because when you
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Speaker 3: look closer, it wasn't just any food. We're talking take
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Speaker 3: out from fancy restaurants.
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Speaker 1: So maybe suggesting something a little more than just you know,
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Speaker 1: everyday stress.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, possibly, right, And when you look at all the
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Speaker 3: other things going on in her life, it starts to
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Speaker 3: paint a more uh well, a more complex.
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Speaker 1: Picture going well.
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Speaker 3: Her relationship with her boyfriend Bill Rausch was long distance
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Speaker 3: and by all accounts, pretty rocky. Then just a few
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Speaker 3: days before she vanishes, she totals her dad's car. Can
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Speaker 3: you imagine the pressure.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, talk about a recipe for disaster. So we
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Speaker 1: have relationship trouble, possible money issue, maybe some legal trouble
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Speaker 1: from the credit card thing, plus a whole lot of
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Speaker 1: guilt over that car accident. Then February ninth, two thousand
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Speaker 1: and four, she heads.
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Speaker 3: North and that's where it gets really interesting to see.
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Speaker 3: She emails her professors her work, tells them there's a
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Speaker 3: family emergency.
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Speaker 1: But it was a lie, Okay, So that's red flag
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Speaker 1: number one. Something was up. She didn't want anyone to
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Speaker 1: know what was going on.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: Then she takes out two hundred and eighty dollars from
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Speaker 3: an ATM, buys a bunch of alcohol, packs, her car, clothes, toiletries,
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Speaker 3: even textbooks. It's almost like she's preparing to start a
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Speaker 3: new life somewhere but where.
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking that, and the sources mentioned she
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Speaker 1: had visited that area of New Hampshire with her dad before.
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Speaker 1: I think she could have been heading there for some
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Speaker 1: sense of I don't know, comfort, like a familiar place
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Speaker 1: to swort things out.
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Speaker 2: It's possible.
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Speaker 3: But here's the thing. The trip north was unplanned, and
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Speaker 3: that makes you think was she reacting to something?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely an element of impulsivity there. So we
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Speaker 1: have a young woman potentially on the run, But from what,
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Speaker 1: from her own problems or someone else. Was she running
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Speaker 1: towards something or away from something? Ah? So many questions, and.
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Speaker 2: Those questions just keep coming.
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Speaker 3: When we get to the actual disappearance, it's about seven
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Speaker 3: two seven pm. Her car skids off Route one to twelve,
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Speaker 3: pretty remote road and hits a snowbank, but it wasn't
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Speaker 3: a bad crash.
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Speaker 1: The car was drivable, right, and then there's that whole
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Speaker 1: thing with the bus driver.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he stops to see if she's okay.
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Speaker 1: But she tells him she's already called Triple A, which
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Speaker 1: she hadn't while I about that, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: People have been analyzing that detail forever. Was she scared
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Speaker 3: trying to avoid the police or was it something else?
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Speaker 2: We may never know for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely adds another layer of mystery to the
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Speaker 1: whole thing. Okay, so the police arrive minutes later and
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Speaker 1: Maura is gone.
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Speaker 2: Poof seven minutes, that's all it took.
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Speaker 3: Wow, cars locked, some of her things are inside, but
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Speaker 3: no Mora, just some footprints in the snow leading away
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Speaker 3: from the car and then they just stop.
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Speaker 1: Seven minutes. It doesn't seem like a lot of time,
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Speaker 1: but in a disappearance it can be huge. What could
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Speaker 1: realistically happen in seven minutes? Could someone have picked her up?
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Speaker 1: Did she run off into the woods.
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: The limited timeframe and lack of evidence have baffled investigators
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Speaker 3: for years. It's like trying to solve a puzzle, but
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Speaker 3: most of the pieces are missing, and that brings us
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Speaker 3: to I think a really critical part of this whole story.
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Speaker 3: How did law enforcement respond in those first few hours?
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Speaker 1: Uh? Right, I've heard there were some let's just say,
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Speaker 1: missed opportunities early on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the sources we looked at suggests that initially the
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Speaker 3: police treated it like a runaway case. You know, young woman,
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Speaker 3: maybe some personal problems, she'll turn up.
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Speaker 1: But wouldn't the car accident and everything else going on
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Speaker 1: have raised some red flags.
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Speaker 3: It seems like at first those factors weren't given enough weight.
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Speaker 3: They were focused on her maybe wanting to disappear, not
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Speaker 3: that something more serious could happen, and that unfortunately led
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Speaker 3: to a delay in you know, those crucial procedures.
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Speaker 1: You're talking about roadblocks, searching the area right away, interviewing people, that.
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Speaker 2: Sort of thing, exactly.
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Speaker 3: Valuable time was lost, and whatever trail there was, whether
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Speaker 3: she left on her own or not, it went cold.
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Speaker 3: They did eventually do a lot of searching, tracking dogs, helicopters, volunteers,
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Speaker 3: the whole nine yards, but it was too late. Moro
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Speaker 3: was gone.
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Speaker 1: So we have a young woman who disappears, a botched
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Speaker 1: initial response, and just a mountain of unanswered questions. No
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Speaker 1: wonder this case has spawns so many.
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Speaker 3: Theories totally and those theories they range from you know,
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Speaker 3: completely plausible to totally out there. But before we get
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Speaker 3: lost down that rabbit hole, let's take a step back
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Speaker 3: and really look at the evidence or I guess the
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Speaker 3: lack of evidence at the scene, right, because understanding what
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Speaker 3: was there and what wasn't is really key to separating
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Speaker 3: fact from well from all the speculation.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense, So let's put on our detective
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Speaker 1: hats for a minute and see what, if any clues
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Speaker 1: we can find at the crash site.
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Speaker 2: Sounds good to me.
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Speaker 3: What jumps out at you when you look at the
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Speaker 3: initial reports about the scene, Well.
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Speaker 1: The fact that the car was locked is interesting. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if she was abduct coul, wuldn't the person who took
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Speaker 1: her have left it unlocked?
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Speaker 3: Well, they could have locked it later, you know, to
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Speaker 3: make it seem like she left voluntarily, or maybe she
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Speaker 3: locked it herself for some reason, we just don't know true.
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Speaker 1: What about those footprints leading away from the car, They
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Speaker 1: just vanish.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another strange one. The reports described them as
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Speaker 3: pretty faint and only visible for a short distance, then
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Speaker 3: they disappear into the snow.
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Speaker 1: Did she get into another car or did the snow
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Speaker 1: just cover them up.
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Speaker 3: Those are definitely possibilities. And remember this was a pretty
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Speaker 3: rural area, woods fields all around. It wouldn't have been
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Speaker 3: hard to disappear into the landscape, especially at night with
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Speaker 3: the snow.
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Speaker 1: Right. Good point. Okay, so the scene itself doesn't tell
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Speaker 1: us much. What about her belongings. Did she take everything
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Speaker 1: or did she leave things behind?
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Speaker 2: Ah? Yeah, that's where things get even more interesting.
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Speaker 1: Boy on me.
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Speaker 3: So her purse was in the car with her ID
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Speaker 3: and credit cards. Some clothes and toiletries took, but some
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Speaker 3: things were miss sing, like her cell phone and a
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Speaker 3: stuffed animal she always carried her favorite one.
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Speaker 2: Actually, so maybe.
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Speaker 1: This wasn't planned. If she was running, she didn't have
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Speaker 1: time to grab everything.
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Speaker 2: That's one way to look at it. But it's also
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Speaker 2: possible she left some things on purpose, you know, to
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Speaker 2: throw off investigators or to make people think a certain
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Speaker 2: thing happen.
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Speaker 1: Wow, this is like peeling back layers of an onion.
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Speaker 1: The more we learn, the more complicated it gets.
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Speaker 3: That's what makes this case so compelling. It's a puzzle
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Speaker 3: with no easy answers, and every detail, every little piece
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Speaker 3: of evidence you can interpret it in so many ways.
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Speaker 1: So what do we make of all of this? Where
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Speaker 1: do we even begin to untangle these possibilities?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think we have to look at everything, right,
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Speaker 3: So let's start with the one that always comes up
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Speaker 3: in cases like this.
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Speaker 2: Foul play.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't ignore that possibility, especially given everything we've talked.
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Speaker 2: About already exactly. I mean, think about it.
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Speaker 3: A young woman alone at night on a deserted road.
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Speaker 3: She's a perfect target for someone looking to do harm.
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Speaker 1: Right, And the fact that there was an any sign
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Speaker 1: of a struggle doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.
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Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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Speaker 3: A skilled attacker they could easily subdue someone without leaving
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Speaker 3: much of a trace.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's a chilling thought, especially with no witnesses
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Speaker 1: and the police getting there late. I mean, that would
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Speaker 1: give someone a huge head start, wouldn't it.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely?
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Speaker 3: And you know, when you look at it, there had
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Speaker 3: been other incidents in that area. Yeah, involving young women
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Speaker 3: who disappeared or were attacked.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, So are there any connections to Mara's case?
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Speaker 3: Not directly, no, but those other cases they create this, well,
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Speaker 3: this unsettling backdrop makes you wonder was there someone out
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Speaker 3: there targeting women?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is getting creepy. But okay, if we're thinking
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Speaker 1: foul play, what kind of evidence would we need to see?
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Speaker 1: What would convince investigators that's what happened.
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Speaker 3: Usually you look for signs of a fight, DNA witnesses,
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Speaker 3: maybe a weapon, But with Maura, those things are missing.
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Speaker 1: So it's more circumstantial, like we have to rely on
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Speaker 1: this circumstances surrounding her disappearance rather than concrete proof.
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Speaker 3: Right, And that's what makes it so hard to well
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Speaker 3: to figure out. It's all these what ifs and speculation,
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Speaker 3: which must.
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Speaker 1: Be incredibly frustrating for everyone involved, you know, especially her family.
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Speaker 1: And speaking of her family, they don't believe she ran away, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean that's what I remember reading.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they've always said.
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Speaker 3: They describe her as responsible, loving, someone who would never
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Speaker 3: intentionally hurt them like that.
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Speaker 1: But what if she was running from something? Though? Remember
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Speaker 1: all that stress she was dealing with, Maybe she felt
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Speaker 1: like she had to get away start over.
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Speaker 2: Sure it's a theory.
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Speaker 3: People have definitely looked into that possibility, but it doesn't
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Speaker 3: completely add up house. So why leave her purse and
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Speaker 3: ID behind it? If you're trying to build a new life,
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Speaker 3: you kind of need those things.
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Speaker 1: Unless maybe she wanted to make it harder for anyone
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Speaker 1: to find her.
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Speaker 2: Maybe, but it still seems odd.
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Speaker 3: And then there's the fact that she only took out
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Speaker 3: a little bit of money, like two hundred and eighty dollars.
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Speaker 2: That's not going to last long if you're disappearing for good.
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Speaker 1: But what if she thought she could find a job.
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Speaker 3: It's possible, yeah, but risky too, especially with that credit
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Speaker 3: card issue hanging over her head.
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Speaker 1: So running away doesn't seem likely, but we can't rule
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Speaker 1: it out completely. What about an accident. Could she have
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Speaker 1: wandered off into the woods, gotten lost, and I don't know,
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Speaker 1: died from exposure or something.
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Speaker 3: It's definitely a possibility. It was freezing that night, snow
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Speaker 3: on the ground, and if she was confused, maybe she'd
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Speaker 3: been drinking. It wouldn't be hard to get disoriented and
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Speaker 3: lose your way.
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Speaker 1: But if that's what happened, wouldn't they have found her body?
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking almost twenty years. Someone would have
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Speaker 1: come across something by now, wouldn't they.
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Speaker 3: You would think so, But that's the problem with that theory.
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Speaker 3: No body and despite all the searching nothing.
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Speaker 1: It's not like that part of New Hampshire is some
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Speaker 1: giant wilderness. People go hiking and hunting there all the time.
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Speaker 3: True, but nature can hide things really well. I mean,
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Speaker 3: a body could be under leaves, branches, snow, or maybe
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Speaker 3: she fell into a ravine or a lake. That would
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Speaker 3: make finding her even harder.
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Speaker 1: So accidental death it makes sense. But without a body,
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Speaker 1: it's really hard to prove. Okay, what about suicide? She
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Speaker 1: was going through a lot. Is that something investigators have considered.
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Speaker 3: They have, but her family really pushes back against that idea.
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Speaker 3: They're adamant she wasn't suicidal, that she would never choose to.
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Speaker 1: End her life, and without any evidence to support that theory,
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Speaker 1: it's just well, it's just another theory. Right, But this
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Speaker 1: whole thing is just so baffling. We have these main
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Speaker 1: theories and none of them really fit perfectly. It's enough
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Speaker 1: to make you crazy, I know.
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Speaker 3: It's what makes the more Murray case so captivating. It's
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Speaker 3: a mystery within a mystery, and every new piece of
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Speaker 3: information seems to create even more questions.
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Speaker 1: And it's not just the lack of answers, right, This
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Speaker 1: case has become like I don't know, part of pop culture,
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Speaker 1: almost like a modern day ghost story totally.
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Speaker 3: It's caught the public's imagination. It's everywhere online, forums, podcasts, documentaries,
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Speaker 3: even fictional stories based on it. And that brings us
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Speaker 3: to another interesting piece of this puzz technology and the
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Speaker 3: rise of well, what some people call citizen detectives.
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Speaker 1: You mean those internet sleuths, the ones who spend hours
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Speaker 1: digging through the details, looking at maps, coming up with
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Speaker 1: their own theories.
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Speaker 3: Those are the ones and the more Murray case. It's
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Speaker 3: like a magnet for them.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: They usually have good intentions, but their involvement can be well, it.
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Speaker 2: Can be complicated.
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Speaker 3: How so, Well, on the one hand, they can bring
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Speaker 3: fresh eyes to the case, sometimes uncover things that the
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Speaker 3: police might have missed. They're passionate, they're dedicated, and they
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Speaker 3: know this case inside and out.
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Speaker 1: But on the other hand, they can also.
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Speaker 3: Spread misinformation, create false leads, even harass people who might
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Speaker 3: be witnesses or somehow connected to the case. It's a
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Speaker 3: tough balance, you know, trying to harness their enthusiasm but
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Speaker 3: also manage the potential chaos.
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Speaker 2: They can create.
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Speaker 1: Right, and there's the ethical side of things too, Right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, these are real people, not just characters in
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Speaker 1: a TV.
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Speaker 2: Show that's so important.
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Speaker 3: It's easy to get wrapped up in the mystery, the intrigue,
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Speaker 3: the wanting to solve the puzzle. But we can can't
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Speaker 3: forget that behind all of that, there are real people
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Speaker 3: who have been deeply affected by what happened.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like morris family, her friends, the community where she lived,
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Speaker 1: even the investigators who've spent years trying to find answers.
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Speaker 1: It's impacted them all in ways we can't even.
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Speaker 3: Imagine exactly, and those are the stories we need to
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Speaker 3: keep in mind as we explore this case.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so where do we go from here? We've looked
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Speaker 1: at the evidence, where the lack of it explored, the
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Speaker 1: major theories, talked about how this case has impacted culture
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Speaker 1: and the world of online saluting. But it still feels
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Speaker 1: like we're just getting started. What else can we uncover
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Speaker 1: in this endlessly fascinating mystery.
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Speaker 3: Well, there are a few things that have come up
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Speaker 3: recently that might give us some new insights, maybe even
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Speaker 3: some new clues, maybe even you know, a little bit
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Speaker 3: of hope for answers.
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Speaker 1: Oh, tell me more. I mean, honestly, any new information
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Speaker 1: would be great, even if it leads us down another
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Speaker 1: rabbit hole.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so back in twenty nineteen, the case was officially
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Speaker 3: changed to a criminal investigation, which makes you think maybe
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Speaker 3: law enforcement issue shifting their focus a little.
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Speaker 1: Bit, so they're not treating it like a missing person
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Speaker 1: case anymore.
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Speaker 3: Not exactly, but by calling it a criminal investigation, it
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Speaker 3: shows that they're actively looking into the possibility that a
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Speaker 3: crime was committed.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a pretty big deal. What made them change it.
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Speaker 3: They haven't said publicly, but it does make you think
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Speaker 3: that maybe they found something new or are looking at
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Speaker 3: the old evidence in a different way.
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Speaker 1: Makes me wonder what kind of new information could there
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Speaker 1: be after all these years. Did new witnesses come forward?
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Speaker 1: Did they find some forensic evidence?
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Speaker 3: That is the million dollar question, and it's the one
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Speaker 3: everyone from true crime fans to armchair detectives to well
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Speaker 3: podcasters like us are waiting to have answered.
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Speaker 1: Well, until we get those answers, all we can do
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Speaker 1: is keep digging, keep analyzing, and hope that someday the
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Speaker 1: truth about what happened to Mara Murray will finally come out.
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Speaker 1: We're back and ready to, I guess, try to wrap
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Speaker 1: up this deep dive into the more Murray case. It's
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Speaker 1: a story that just it keeps going even after all
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Speaker 1: this time. We've talked about all the different theories, the
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Speaker 1: evidence or lack of it, and how this whole thing
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Speaker 1: has become like a cultural phenomenon. But I guess the
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Speaker 1: big question is where do we go from here? Is
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Speaker 1: there any real hope of ever getting answers after all
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Speaker 1: this time.
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Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons this case is still
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Speaker 3: so alive is because people haven't given up looking Moore's family,
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Speaker 3: the police, even those online communities we talked about, they're
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Speaker 3: all still trying to find those missing pieces of the puzzle.
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Speaker 1: And that's what's so fascinating about it, Right, even after
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Speaker 1: almost twenty years, there's still this little spark of hope
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Speaker 1: that maybe, just maybe the truth is out there somewhere.
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Speaker 3: I agree, And there have been some well some things
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Speaker 3: that have happened in the last few years that have
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Speaker 3: kept that hope going. Remember those bone fragments they found
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Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that seemed like a big deal at the time,
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Speaker 1: but he with.
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Speaker 3: Those turns out it was a dead end. The DNA
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Speaker 3: tests showed they weren't a match for Mara oh Man.
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Speaker 3: But even though it was a false alarm, it shows
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Speaker 3: that people are still looking, you know, still finding things,
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Speaker 3: reporting things. The case is definitely still on people's.
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Speaker 1: Minds, but everyone's waiting for that one breakthrough, that one
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Speaker 1: clue that'll blow the whole thing wide open. But is
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Speaker 1: that even realistic after all these years?
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Speaker 2: Hard to say for sure.
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Speaker 3: Cold cases have been solved after decades, sometimes with new
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Speaker 3: technology or just a fresh perspective on old evidence, So we.
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Speaker 1: Can't rule out the possibility that tomorrow someone might find something,
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Speaker 1: some crucial piece of evidence, or maybe a new witness
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Speaker 1: will come forward with something that changes everything absolutely.
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Speaker 3: And that's why we need to keep talking about this case,
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Speaker 3: keep asking the questions, and keep the pressure on to
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Speaker 3: find answers, because even if the chances are small, as
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Speaker 3: long as there's even a tiny possibility of finding out
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Speaker 3: what happened to Maura, we can't give up hope.
16:45
Speaker 1: And you know, we can't forget about More's family either.
16:49
Speaker 1: To live with this kind of uncertainty for so long,
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Speaker 1: always wondering, always hoping, always grieving, it's just I know.
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Speaker 3: Their strength and resilience are incredible. Her father, Fred Murray,
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Speaker 3: he's become this tireless advocate for his daughter. He's kept
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Speaker 3: her story in the spotlight, pushed for answers, never given
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Speaker 3: up hope.
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Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking, but it's also inspiring to see that kind
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Speaker 1: of love and determination even in the face of such
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Speaker 1: a terrible loss. And it really speaks to that that
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Speaker 1: need we all have for closure, for answers, for justice.
17:21
Speaker 3: And that's what we have to remember. You know, these cases,
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Speaker 3: they're not just mysteries to solve. They involve real people,
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Speaker 3: real lives, real families whose lives have been turned upside down.
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Speaker 3: We can't forget that no matter how much time goes by,
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Speaker 3: no matter how many theories we explore.
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Speaker 1: So as we close out this deep dive into more
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Speaker 1: Murray's disappearance, I gotta say I'm feeling a lot of
17:40
Speaker 1: things right now, intrigue, frustration, sadness, but also there's still
17:44
Speaker 1: that little bit of hope, even if it seems fragile.
17:47
Speaker 3: I think that's a good place to be with a
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Speaker 3: case like this, Because of the More Murray case, it's
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Speaker 3: all about unanswered questions. It's a puzzle we might never
17:54
Speaker 3: solve completely, but searching for answers, trying to find the truth.
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Speaker 3: That's a journey worth taking for Maura and for everyone
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Speaker 3: who's been affected by this.
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Speaker 1: We might never know for sure what happened to her
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Speaker 1: that night, but by looking at all the details, all
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Speaker 1: the different possibilities, and by remembering that this is about
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Speaker 1: a real person, I think we've come a little bit
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Speaker 1: closer to understanding this complex and fascinating mystery.
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Speaker 3: And who knows, maybe something we've said today will spark
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Speaker 3: a memory. Maybe someone out there will remember something or
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Speaker 3: find something that could finally.
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Speaker 2: Lead us to the truth.
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Speaker 1: Well that's it for this deep dive into the disappearance
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Speaker 1: of Mora Murray. If you're out there and you have
18:32
Speaker 1: any thoughts, theories, anything you want to share, please reach
18:36
Speaker 1: out and remember even the smallest detail can make all
18:39
Speaker 1: the difference.
18:40
Speaker 2: Keep searching, keep asking those questions, and don't.
18:43
Speaker 3: Let go of that hope, because with cases like this,
18:45
Speaker 3: even after all these
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Speaker 2: Years, anything is possible,