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S5 E24: Attitude Reflects Leadership · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen de crazy.
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  Speaker 2: You can see your breath.
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  Speaker 3: Out in the.
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  Speaker 4: Lake effect, breaking tables like guitar would you.
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  Speaker 5: Wherese would you have to be? And to Ron Elvis
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  Speaker 5: in the lay, Panchow remembers that you need to know
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  Speaker 5: I won't you out here now?
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  Speaker 6: Your family?
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  Speaker 5: Where's would you have to be? Where else would you be?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the nicol City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at Nickel City Crew. This episode,
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  Speaker 1: along with all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen
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  Speaker 1: Legacy Entertainment here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so
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  Speaker 1: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: bills and NFL count again today and as always, these
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  Speaker 1: are my Bill's thoughts set out loud.
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  Speaker 2: It survive so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Sty three was sick the show Connect me?
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  Speaker 7: Where's what you like to be?
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for
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  Speaker 6: tonight's episode. It's it's funny because when DT and I
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  Speaker 6: my co host, did our little season preview and the
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  Speaker 6: schedule comes out and you're like, man, here's a win
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  Speaker 6: and here's a loss, and it just it never seems
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  Speaker 6: to work out the way that you think. I know
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  Speaker 6: that Bill's Mafia, nicol City cool. We were all looking
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  Speaker 6: for that number one seed and all those types of
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  Speaker 6: things seem to be a little bit off in the distance,
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  Speaker 6: especially after last night. You know, the Patriots take care
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  Speaker 6: of the Jets and they moved to nine and two.
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  Speaker 6: So the Bill's got some serious work ahead of them.
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  Speaker 6: Starting off on Sunday one o'clock at the Ralph hosting
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  Speaker 6: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Listen, joining me tonight. Listen, my
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  Speaker 6: co host is on his way. DT is still in
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  Speaker 6: the building. Check him out on Instagram and Twitter at
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  Speaker 6: Adam Repsick. Are you p c z y k.
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  Speaker 1: He's on his way. He's got a lot.
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  Speaker 6: I mean you already guys know he's the mayor around Buffalo,
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  Speaker 6: North Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody wants a piece of him, Enterprise execs. So listen.
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  Speaker 1: He will be on later.
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  Speaker 6: But I am I felt like Biggie man, I really
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  Speaker 6: I felt like Biggie and I was like, listen, man,
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  Speaker 6: this is like what's beef Like?
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  Speaker 1: I felt like this is the commission.
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  Speaker 6: I need to get some people on here from the
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  Speaker 6: Mafia members that we need to sit down and talk
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  Speaker 6: and have some real conversations. Joining me tonight. I've got
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  Speaker 6: so many guests for you, and I'm really excited about him.
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  Speaker 6: You already know him a really friend of the show
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  Speaker 6: Twitter buddy who has now turned into a really good
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  Speaker 6: friend of mine.
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  Speaker 1: Check him out at Scott M Fry.
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  Speaker 6: That's f r e y holla at the crew Scott.
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  Speaker 6: Commission Biggie. Biggie started was big. He said, this is
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  Speaker 6: a commission, Uncle PAULI I mean, we gotta tell you, man,
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  Speaker 6: I need to talk to my people how that the
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  Speaker 6: crews got how you've been then.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I'm stoked. I'm good. I'm a little stressed out.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I'm trying to keep it really positive. That one
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  Speaker 4: seed thing was like, yeah, this is the season that's
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  Speaker 4: laid out, and man, the Patriots are killing it. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna just be a normal person for a minute.
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  Speaker 4: Good for them. Okay, I'm back.
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  Speaker 2: He's killing me, killing it.
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  Speaker 6: I can't stand him out you on your own on
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  Speaker 6: that one man, good for them?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing?
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  Speaker 6: Man, I had twenty years just like you did, a
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  Speaker 6: dominance from twelve.
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  Speaker 1: So no, I don't. I don't feel good for it.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 6: That boy may does look like the real deal though,
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  Speaker 6: joining me South of the Equator back on the show.
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  Speaker 6: You know him from Buffalo Rumblings. He leads the charge
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  Speaker 6: that literally the name of the podcast. Leading the charge.
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  Speaker 6: Our buddy Fernando Schmud please check him out at for
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  Speaker 6: anand shmoot. That's s c H m U d E
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  Speaker 6: south of the border in Brazil. Holla at the crew
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  Speaker 6: for the second time, sir, How you.
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  Speaker 1: Doing what's up for Nando? Oh? Oh, my bad? Got you?
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  Speaker 1: I got you? My bad? How you doing.
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  Speaker 7: What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Guys? Thanks for having me again and on the show,
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  Speaker 2: and glad to be here to talk to some bills.
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  Speaker 2: And just like Scott said, tough times, tough times to
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  Speaker 2: recent times for us as Bills fans and here in Brazil,
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you people are.
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  Speaker 7: Getting really, really sad and mad.
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  Speaker 2: That's how things have been going.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 6: We're really happy to have you back on I I
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  Speaker 6: needed a kindred spirit at least one of them tonight
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  Speaker 6: that thinks a little bit the way that I do,
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  Speaker 6: because I've been fighting people on Twitter left and right
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  Speaker 6: all week long.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of Twitter, I found this brother.
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  Speaker 6: A couple of weeks ago on those spaces, on those
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  Speaker 6: Twitter spaces, shout out.
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  Speaker 1: To my boy Wittle.
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  Speaker 6: I know him and I fight like cats and dog,
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  Speaker 6: but I really do respect his work and I love
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  Speaker 6: the spaces with him and my boy Ley Shawan, who's
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  Speaker 6: down here in Charlotte with me. And I met this
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  Speaker 6: brother and I was like, man, he knows his stuff
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  Speaker 6: when it comes to the offensive line. He knows his
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  Speaker 6: stuff when it costs about offense and schemes and schematics
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  Speaker 6: and and just everything and how the intricacies of the
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  Speaker 6: offense work. He knew his stuff. And I had to
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  Speaker 6: send him a shout out. I had the sum of
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  Speaker 6: the message. And I'm so gracious that he is on tonight.
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  Speaker 6: Check him out is o L twenty two underscore bills
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  Speaker 6: My man tone from the Bronx Man, holler at the
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  Speaker 6: crew tone, Yo, holla at the crew man. I'm so
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  Speaker 6: happy to have you on tonight.
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  Speaker 5: Man, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: First?
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  Speaker 5: If you want to correct that queens queens?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, my bad, my bad.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently those are two different things, right.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, With that said, I guess I'll be the only
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  Speaker 7: positive guy.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm all right, I'm all right. You know you
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  Speaker 5: shake off the bad early and it'll get fixed. So
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  Speaker 5: I'm good.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm really appreciated having tonight, And as I told you,
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  Speaker 6: guys are show, I'm not looking for us to all
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  Speaker 6: agree tonight, and I know DT and I differ on
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  Speaker 6: a few opinions as well when he joins us later.
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  Speaker 6: But listen, the way that the reason I named the
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  Speaker 6: episode of the way that I did Fellaws was because
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  Speaker 6: for one specific reason these last couple of weeks, and
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  Speaker 6: it's been something that has kind of been kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Grinding my gears, so to speak, for weeks now.
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  Speaker 6: Is that you know Josh, Josh is Josh, and we
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  Speaker 6: know and what do we talk about him all the time?
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  Speaker 1: You know all the truth and he's one of the
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  Speaker 1: guys and.
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  Speaker 5: Different things like that.
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  Speaker 6: But when things are not going well, Josh seems to
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  Speaker 6: be in a little bit of a funk.
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  Speaker 1: If you see him on the sidelines.
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  Speaker 6: Now, I will admit Nichols City Crew, Bill's Maffia we
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  Speaker 6: don't see obviously unless you're in the stadium the entire
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  Speaker 6: time and we're watching Josh twenty four to seven. There's
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  Speaker 6: no you know, Sky Cameron and Josh the entire time.
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  Speaker 6: So sometimes we just get snippets. But we'll see Josh
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  Speaker 6: on the sideline, Scott, and it'll be more of along,
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  Speaker 6: it's more aloof, it's more disconnected and separated from his teammates.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of got a weird look on his face.
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  Speaker 6: It's kind of a glaze, a malaise over his face,
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  Speaker 6: and you're wondering, like, what's going through his head?
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  Speaker 1: Is he okay? Listen?
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  Speaker 6: I named the episode of the way that I did
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  Speaker 6: from Remember the Titans, because attitude reflects leadership. Julius had
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  Speaker 6: to tell homeboy, listen, man, I need you, and regardless
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  Speaker 6: of our differences of what the case may be, I've
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  Speaker 6: got strong shot, you got weeks. Listen, I need you.
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  Speaker 6: And it was funny because Scott Sean McDermott talked about
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  Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield in a positive light this week and talked
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  Speaker 6: about his you know, his journey throughout the NFL, coming
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  Speaker 6: from Cleveland and being ditched and kind of tossed to
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  Speaker 6: the curb, and he talked about how the leadership of
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  Speaker 6: Baker different things like that, I have not liked Josh's
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  Speaker 6: body language. I wanted you to speak to it. If
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  Speaker 6: I'm off base, you tell me if I'm off base
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  Speaker 6: and we'll go round the table. But I don't know, Man,
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  Speaker 6: There's just something about when he's sitting there with that weird,
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  Speaker 6: blank stare on his face. I feel like he's disconnected
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  Speaker 6: from the team, definitely from the offense. And I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if it's a if it's a thing of frustration
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  Speaker 6: or what, but it's something I've noticed, man, And we've
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  Speaker 6: seen it here and there over the years where we've
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  Speaker 6: had so much as sets that you don't see it
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  Speaker 6: too much. But I've noticed that Scott over these last
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  Speaker 6: couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Man, Look, if you're noticing it, you ain't the only
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  Speaker 4: one noticing it. And the thing with we're in my
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  Speaker 4: happy place. I'm a leadership training developer guy by day.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I do for a living. I help people
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  Speaker 4: be awesome. And one of the things about leaders is
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  Speaker 4: people watch leaders. No matter what you're doing, you're always
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  Speaker 4: having an impact on the people who you lead. That's right,
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  Speaker 4: and seeing that probably isn't too fun for the younger guys,
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  Speaker 4: in particular because I just don't know him as well
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  Speaker 4: as a guy like Dawson Knoxwood. But one of the
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  Speaker 4: things I key in on because I see it and
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  Speaker 4: I hate it. And you know, just like his grandma,
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  Speaker 4: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: Josh, smile, buddy, smile.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's like this grown man, Golden Retriever fourteen
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  Speaker 4: year old, all wrapped into a big, fuzzy strong ball, right.
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  Speaker 4: You know, sometimes I want to shake him and sometimes
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  Speaker 4: I want to get hug, you know, and fist bump.
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  Speaker 2: But the one thing that.
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  Speaker 4: Key in on is listening to sal Capaccio, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit of a homer.
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  Speaker 2: I really like sal Man. He does a good job.
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  Speaker 4: He's he said, bills homer to an extent, but he's
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  Speaker 4: also has to report, so I'm gonna throw him that
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  Speaker 4: like he's very kind, but he's also trying to just
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  Speaker 4: report the facts. And one of the things he said,
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  Speaker 4: because this came up to Sleek and he said, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you guys don't see everything that Josh is doing, like
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  Speaker 4: you just said, and you do get those moments. Camera
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  Speaker 4: finds him when he's on the bench and you know,
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  Speaker 4: looking like he looks, but he goes man. He usually
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  Speaker 4: comes off the field, goes right for the tablet, gets
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  Speaker 4: right on the horn upstairs, talking to Joe Brady and
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  Speaker 4: talking to is it Rob the quarterbacks coach Rob or
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  Speaker 4: us whatever the tone can probably help us with that.
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  Speaker 4: And he spends a lot of time doing that as
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  Speaker 4: soon as he finishes drive And then you see that,
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  Speaker 4: So don't sales messages kind of like, don't let that
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  Speaker 4: be the only image you have of Josh Allen in
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  Speaker 4: that moment. But as a leadership dude, right, it's such
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  Speaker 4: a thing to see your guy. I it's sitting there
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  Speaker 4: looking like that. And we saw how Stefan Diggs dealt
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  Speaker 4: with that when he was here, and I think he
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  Speaker 4: wasn't having a problem with Josh Allen's play on the field.
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  Speaker 4: I think he was having a problem with Josh Allen
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  Speaker 4: on the bench, you know what I mean. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of Stephan caught a lot of heat for that and
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  Speaker 4: to watching that, like are you yelling at the dog?
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  Speaker 4: Come on, yell at the Golden retriever. But sometimes one
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  Speaker 4: of my favorite clips of Josh is that, I think
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  Speaker 4: it was to Kansas City, uh screaming. One of my
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  Speaker 4: favorite I got gooseb. I love that job, Like there's
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  Speaker 4: a place for I'm with you on this Rob, Like
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  Speaker 4: it bears talking about because you got to be careful
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  Speaker 4: how your people see you as a leader because they're.
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  Speaker 6: Watching they're watching it, and Fernando, listen as we go clockwise, Fernando,
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  Speaker 6: it's it's funny because listen, I'm not saying that Josh
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  Speaker 6: obviously doesn't care, or or whatever the case may And again,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not at the stadium. I'm not watching every second
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  Speaker 6: of Josh. There's no skycam on him. But when I
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  Speaker 6: see him with that blank stare. The reason I named
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  Speaker 6: the episode that I did was because of the fact
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  Speaker 6: that not only is Scott right that everybody's watching you,
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  Speaker 6: but they're feeding off of your energy. I heard the
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  Speaker 6: running back from the Pats last week talk about I
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  Speaker 6: heard it on gr talking about how listen man, Steph
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  Speaker 6: gets in my ass. He tells me that I'm supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be great. He tells me that I can be
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  Speaker 6: better and that I can do more, and he expects
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  Speaker 6: more of me. And then he said that drives me.
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  Speaker 6: He said that that picks up my energy. I don't know, Fernando,
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  Speaker 6: when I see my quarterback, sixty million dollar quarterback next
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  Speaker 6: year on that new contract, when I see him acting
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  Speaker 6: like that, I've described it on Twitter multiple times this week.
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  Speaker 6: He's sulking things are not going well. You know, he
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  Speaker 6: might be frustrated about the play calls, he might be
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  Speaker 6: frustrated about this or that, and then he's just kind
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  Speaker 6: of he's just in a funk and you can see
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  Speaker 6: it on him. And the problem I have with it
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  Speaker 6: the most is I don't like projects. It doesn't it's
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  Speaker 6: not That's not the look that I want from seventeen.
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  Speaker 6: That's not the look that I want from a Prentice quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: Where do you sit on it? If it's anything or
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  Speaker 6: if it's nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, Rob, that's a that would be a
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  Speaker 2: great talk because Scott already mentioned his experience talking about leadership,
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  Speaker 2: and I have a little bit of experience dealing with
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  Speaker 2: that as well, because some I'm meeting Scott and Ton now.
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  Speaker 2: But I played soccer professionally for sixteen years here in Brazil.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a former goalkeeper, right, I played twenty two years
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  Speaker 2: if we count academies. I've played for winning teams, I've
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  Speaker 2: played for relegation teams. I've been a captain, I've been
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  Speaker 2: a backup, right, So I've been in several of those
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  Speaker 2: situations where people expected me to lead and where expected
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  Speaker 2: people expected me to be just a support guy and
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  Speaker 2: to be led right, okay, And and I will tell
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  Speaker 2: you one thing, Uh, there are some guys that want
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  Speaker 2: to showcase their leadership. They want to be sea, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they want to show the fans they are leading the way,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And I'm very careful of these kind of guys.
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  Speaker 2: And my opinion Digs sometimes is kind of like this
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  Speaker 2: when you open your arms to your to your quarterback
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  Speaker 2: in front of an entire stage, and that's not good leadership. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: all right, he calls a lot of fights, you know, Josh.
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  Speaker 2: Because let me tell you one thing. Josh continues to
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  Speaker 2: go to the media and tell for exemple, he tried
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  Speaker 2: to throw that ball to Shavers instead of not. And
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  Speaker 2: when you will see the tape, he didn't try to
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  Speaker 2: throw that ball to to Shavers. Even Stevie Johnson made
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  Speaker 2: a point about it on Twitter, right not to run
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  Speaker 2: the route an option route. And on the field you
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  Speaker 2: could see the body language like Josh looking at Knots
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  Speaker 2: and being like, come on, dude, what are you doing.
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  Speaker 2: But he didn't say a word to Knocks. And when
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  Speaker 2: he went to the media, he was like, no, I
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  Speaker 2: tried to throw that ball and I couldn't put the
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  Speaker 2: air under it.
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  Speaker 1: And anybody under the bus.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure nots appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Brady appreciate when Josh goes to the
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  Speaker 2: media and says, I'm completely confident this offense will will work.
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  Speaker 7: You know. I'm sure all his.
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  Speaker 2: Teammates are very appreciative when he goes to the media
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  Speaker 2: and says, no, I gotta be better, I gotta do more,
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  Speaker 2: I gotta do stuff. You know, he's taking all the
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  Speaker 2: hit to himself and protecting his teammates and that's big
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  Speaker 2: time leadership and he's in a position where he can
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  Speaker 2: do that. So his body language on the sidelines, you
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  Speaker 2: can see that it's not true that he's fine with
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  Speaker 2: this offense, that he's fine with what Brady's calling you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I worry about Josh, not about what we can see,
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  Speaker 2: but I worry about what we can see. How is
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  Speaker 2: Josh behind closed doors? Is he demanding enough from Pegula
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  Speaker 2: from being because everybody hides behind him, Rob even even
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  Speaker 2: Bean is like I drafted Coleman. Oh, Josh wanted Coleman.
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  Speaker 2: And you think he said before the dress, he was like,
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  Speaker 2: think of you, Josh, before the draft, and he was
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  Speaker 2: like he mentioned every wide receiver possible to be picked
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  Speaker 2: in the first round, you know, like, oh, I like
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  Speaker 2: e d or I like Worthy, I like you know,
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  Speaker 2: he mentioned like that, he mentioned everybody and when when
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  Speaker 2: they drafted Coleman. Coleman was Josh's guy. So if it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work, he was Josh's guy.
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  Speaker 7: You know, Ah Brady is bad. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Josh picked his offensive coordinator Darcy.
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  Speaker 7: He was fired.
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  Speaker 2: Josh picked him, you know. So everybody's hiding behind the
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  Speaker 2: franchise quarterback man. It's not his job. His job is
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  Speaker 2: to quarterback the team and lead the team. Being being
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  Speaker 2: being has his scouts, So if you want to listen
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  Speaker 2: to Josh, don't pay the scouts anymore. Stop wasting money.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like Josh is gonna pick the team. Josh
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  Speaker 2: is gonna run the office. Josh is gonna pick the
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordination. So I'm worried about. I don't see Josh
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: behind closed doors, you know, going to Pegoula and saying, look, man,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I've had enough of this. He will be supportive to
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: McDermot forever because that's the guy had drafted him, you know,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: in just to I don't want to stop too much.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: But just to make a comparison, I'm a Chicago Bulls fan,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: all right, And it reminds me Derek row so much
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: because dark Rose wasn't a guy who was very vocal,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: but you could see the character. He was a character guy,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: just like Josh, you know. And when Lebron was building
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: super teams and all those friends but on a boat
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and stuff. You know, Derek Rowse was getting a lot
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: of hit because he wasn't recruiting people. And they interview
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: when they interviewed dark Rose, no, he said.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: No, I'm completely fine with kid Bugans.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, as my shooting guy. I want to win
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: for kids, you know. I want to win for Joe.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I want to win for Louell Ding, you know. And
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I don't need those guys.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: I can be the m v P.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I can be the guy and we want to win.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: So Josh want to win with not not since his
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: best friend forever, Like he has a huge contract. He's
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: a backup Tightland and so Josh won't be the guy
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: that will come to the ownership and say look five
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: mcdermok because it's it's been enough, you know, or get
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: better wide receiver signed this trade. This guy and I
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: have a bunch of people are mad because of hunches,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: but I've lived a lot of professional sports, so I
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: have a hunch. And I believe the phone was mad
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: not because all the film stuff, because getting the Office
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: became run first unity set off powerful best in office
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: that we use the.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was as bad as Josh
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: as he was.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Something he didn't that's.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Not that's not his nature.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: It's interesting because when you talk about this, because I
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: mean I even put it out on Twitter this week
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: and I got a bunch of engagement about it. But
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: like I said, listed tone, I said, you know, the
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: time might come where Josh needs to be comfortable being
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: uncomfortable and and go outside of his nature and go
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: and talk to Terry because he's the only one that's
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: going to move the meter. We've done episodes, and I
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: have done episodes about episodes about what will actually for
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: some type of change if that's what the needs. Some
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: of the places he's passing up, we've talked about that.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: You and I on those faces with with on those guys.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: What do you think about the way that Josh is
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: right now?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Is there anything to it?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: No?
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: You started the show that said that you're you're in
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: a good place, You're fine, You're okay, you chill if
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: there's no panic, Is there anything that you see from
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: him that doesn't really jive or you're just chalking it
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: up to a couple of losses.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: So I started saying this funny with the professional soccer,
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: I have legit got paid two games to pro rugby,
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: and I got when I was twenty five year old
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: playing in the minor league in Australia, So I I
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: definitely understand that aspect of being the leading around and
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: were having different ways of bleeding.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: It's usually the quiet guys are the best leaders. Usually
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: the guys that you don't see.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: Yelling with that. When I watched Josh on the sideline,
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: I see.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: That is Josh.
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: I think he's more so upset in himself because he
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: feels like.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: There's something he could do better, and.
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: I feel like there's something that he feels like he
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: can get more out of the play, you know what
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: I mean. So it's it's one of those things whenever
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: I see a bad play happens, Josh like that means
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: such a dumb play, quall like we could have done
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: so much better on that drive. We could have got
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: so we could have moved the both so many different ways.
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: I will say this Steve and and maybe we'll going
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: to it later on Steve Shavers and not fast. I
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: broke it down from an old line perspective, and I
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: do feel like his eyes were at Shavers and I
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: think because of stepping up when he because he did
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: a double part. He was gonna let it go. Nobody
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: was open. He stepped in the pocket, Chub jumped in
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: his face and then he kind of had it in
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: decide at the moment. But his eyes were the back
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: of the end zone when you watched it from a
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: goal line perspective and not a slight perspective, but that
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: but that you know, the top. But I do feel
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: like Demeter's tough because he leads through the actions we
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: saw in the coming up in the third quarter of
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: the Dolphins game, well he did. He tried to put
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: the game on the show. He tried to say, right,
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: that's enough, I'm gonna try and make magic happen. Because
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: when out moving a like I have a play breakdown,
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: you don't mind real plate. So yeah, yeah, fifty yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: fifteen passes in the first half in complete eight yards,
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: five yards, four yards, eleven yards incomplete, incomplete, twenty seventeen incomplete,
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: eight three zack five.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Okay, so that's two, three, four, five, five.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: Incomplete passes out of fifteen, five incle passes out of fifteen.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: And you talk about under the ten yards. Was talking
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: about one, two, three, fifteen or under eleven yards. He's
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: taking the place that are there. I know people want
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: to say, well, he could be taking more plays that
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: are there, but he did that in the first half
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: that he missed a throw here and there, like every quarterback.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: That's sure, it happens.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: That's what you were trying to tell me today from.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: He was taking some of those checkdowns.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: Yes, if you watch the opening first half of the game,
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: he took every every quick pass, every design quick passing team.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: I just want to get this done, you know what
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: So I feel like the frustration is more on himself.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: The frustrations feels like because he knows when he when
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: he turns the ball over, is because he's trying to
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: make something.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Happen not determinable.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: But I don't think it's a frustration towards like this
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: team sucks all this team.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Is or whatever I think it's just more of like
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: he knows the same in the team.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: I feel like we have such a good offense that
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: gets in their whole way for whatever reason at certain
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: points and times. But I think moving forward, I know
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: mcco harman is on the practice squad and people look
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: at the side. If he comes up, you know, he
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: comes out, if he comes out of the stuff. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: think Josh was a huge get coming back after the
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: two passes. We saw the Faucons game. We saw something
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: developing there. Kate obviously has heard, but you know, when
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: t comes back. I think it's about health at this point,
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: once everybody's healthy, and I think they have to figure
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: out how to keep James Cook on the field, you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: and not taking him off when you in the red zone,
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean to where you have Ray
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: Davis instead of him, and now you're you're only really
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: scared of Josh.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Allen his legs.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: You're not scared of anybody else on the field because
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: James is this so your focus is a little different.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Which I thought it was pissed.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: As about what do you think of cold in the
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: passing games? Because we've seen it like little drifts here
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: last week. I want your opinion because you obviously got
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: the scheme you got, So.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: I do believe that Johnson is the better better I
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: think I think Ty Johnson is better in open space,
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: like on the screen or something like that. I think
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: James Cook reads a field better, you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: I think he's one of those guys where we saw
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: him on there was like a little wheel route that
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: he ran and he was open to josh and and
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: Salem because.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: He was on the left side.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: John was right.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: But for whatever reason, I don't understand why they take
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: him all the time I'm passing down. That's the funt
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: that that. I'm like, that's a predictable pea. Well, everything
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: Brady does is pretty Yeah. I was just getting ready,
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: so I'm sure. I'm sure going into it later because
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: I have a like a few thoughts on that. I
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: I was watching the Dolphins game and I don't understand
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: why the game play is so different than the versus Dolphins,
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: because it's like, you felt something that works two games
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: in a row, and James was on the field for
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: a lot of passing downs in the chase and fantas, but.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Black it was nothing glaring in his game.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: No, it wasn't, and I agree that I think it's
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: there was probably a little bit better a job at
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: pass blocking as well. But I think that if you're
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: going to max, for get it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: But if you have.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: If you have a thirty mate or thirty seven and
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: you need a running back to the league.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: There's no reason to not have James Cook.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: I know, earlier in his career he dropped a couple
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: of big passes. I get that, but you paid the
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: paid him all.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But the.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Thing is he's just so good with the ball when
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: he gets the bony head yourself. You want to do
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: that as often as possible when you're tossing pitch and
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: off passing it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you remember that. There was like
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: a third and two or something.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: That they converted with a share on a screen passed
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to the right and James run around to the left side.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Just being there, just being there prices not just being
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: on the field, and the difference being like, okay, James,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: now he's on the field and he's James Cook.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: I gotta pay attention to him, you know. And it's
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: like the American.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Just to make people think a little bit about his way,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: like to to burn a cover zero blitz. He took
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that almost to the house and he made a great
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: read and take it almost to the household. How do
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: you take him off the field? And and both busy
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Like I was live.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: On that that game.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: You know, this last game, I was live with half
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: of co hosts out for half.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: On the ro man because we were like, okay.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You know, heavy formation, k is not on the field,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Cookies on the field. It's a run, they run the ball.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: Okay, sc heavy formation, but cook.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Is not on the field.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: Is on the field. We can do that, but imagine.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Defense the way.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: And I.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Will say to add on that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: The sneak what I watched because I said, make Fritz
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Patrick the wa QB sneak. He's all way forward because
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: you know he's right before, so making fit Patrick immediate
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: if you watch and make him goes he's going here,
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: ye coming there, Yeah, sniffed out from the Jon And
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: I just found that comical. It's just it's I don't
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: understand the predictability part of it's getting annoying.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: At this point.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: We're talking about Josh. I want to ask you guys,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: what about his uh, He's We've seen that the last
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: few weeks. He gets out of the pocket a little
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: too soon sometimes because I feel like there's some Josh.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: To start the shows. You still in my mouth? Listen,
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: Josh just leaning clean pockets now. As Tony accurately pointed
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: out first half last week against.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Miami, everybody wants to twitter that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Says nobody's opening, nobody's openings. He was taking it Fernando
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: random piece the game and then he got sick of
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: that ship. What is going on with the with the
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: with the pockets that he's leaving because sometimes we may
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: not understand tone and you can maybe should have l
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: like to that to to the average fan because I
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: see Josh rolling out to the right an awful lot
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: and it seemed like things were there, and maybe they weren't.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm willing to be wrong.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: There's one player, because there is one play in the
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: Dolphins game that everybody's so good about.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: He left the pocket early. So bear with me on
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: this one. Let's let's just have a good imagination, right.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: So when he set up this story, why Coleman is
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: your your first Coleman is is your second man? He's
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: just spot who's who's uh Samuels was on the inside.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: Samms playing as as yet your why, I'm sorry it
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: might be a little mistroubled on that, but anyway, what
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: happened was three receivers on one side, one to receive
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: one another side Josh. When he snaps the ball, everybody
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: says Coleman's not you and and the thing is that
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: you have to well, I feel like people die. You
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: see so much from looking from the goal like point
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: of view. You see where everybody's eyes off right. So
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Coleman's cutting across real Dodson is looking you know, he's
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: looking right at him, and I forgot who was I
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: don't know if it's the other linebacker or the safety
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: part of me, but he's so coolman coming around and
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: he was reading that too.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: He was like throwing if Josh.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Tree.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: Now Josh sees that Josh looks up his offense. There
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: was a stunt that was rand where they kept doing
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: this stuff wh where I'm gonna try to explain the best.
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: I can't help.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Let me see, you can't see that, right, You got
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to do some sharpie, all right.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: So you see on the left guard in the right guard, right,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: so the tackles the defensive tackles are lined up on
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the outside shoulder, both the left guard, left guard and
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: right guard. The defensive ends were lined up on the
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: outside shoulders the right tackle on the left tackle. What
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: it was blowing was this whole middal was wide open right.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: So what was going on was they were stunting around
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: and confusing the.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: That the one where Torrents was blocking no one.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Yes, So what.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: Happened was, let me make sure I have this in okay,
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: So that's my right tackle. So what happened was troubles
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: on this side number ninety two, the inside the defensive
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: tackle was.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: Coming in to the dale.
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: Dawkins came around, but instead of Torrents making it sure
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: that everything was okay, over heretic left right was now
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: it was on a one on one the edge to
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: inside route on it. But so Brown was a little
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: off state and then the edge came back in the
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: Brown with a little boat rush. Brown had to gather
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: his feet and the edge came back in. So at
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: that point in time, Cook is running a comeback ground.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: I'm saying to this so of everything is bad, right,
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: he looked, he looks at he sees the two guys Coleman.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: He sees Chuck coming around and he sees he's tried.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: He wants to step up in the Brown.
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: Brown held that battle, but he started to lose.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: So he had no choice blood to roll out to
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: the right.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: Because there's a lot of there's a lot of situations
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: and by that time as he started rolling out, Cook
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: was wide.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: But he was but it was too late. You couldn't
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: get to that. And that's.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: So.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: So the point thing is that a lot of the
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: plays where they say he rolls out early, he watched
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: from a line perspective. Remember there's three layers that are
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: going on in the game. Sometimes there are stunts, especially
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: in the Falcons game when it was just like had
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: he waited a second long? There's a couple of times.
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: There's one time he got drilled bad by just by
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: sitting in. I know from a fan, uh perspective, like
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: he doesn't have to do it all the time. I'm
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: not excusing him all the time. And I'm from a
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: fan perspective. When we watch sideline, it's like, oh, you
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: could have if you watch it from the goal on perspective,
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: everybody watch it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: There were times where the line.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: Is half a second and from beating the old line
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: in front of him, and then he knows it right well,
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: he's trying to automatically say, fun, if I could run
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: out by buy three more seconds for my old line
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: and from my receiver is maybe something will open up.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: So that's Scott.
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: It's it's interesting because Joe Brady has been an enigma
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: so to speak, you know what I mean.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: He comes in for he's.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: Fired after the twelve men on the field, and I
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: don't know how was his job because of that, but
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: no problem.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: You know people were.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: Saying anyway, so and then after that, you know it
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: was I exploited on Nicchol City Crew many times that
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: you know, Joe Brady was brought into perform strategy. He
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: was there for triviadge. Let me, let's stop the bleeding. Okay,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: what do we gotta do. We gotta stop turning the bolliver.
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: We've got to make sure that we run the battle
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: bit more. And he baps up the bandage and he
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: gets us to the rest of the season. Last year,
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, coming into this year, it's his
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: you know, this is your it's your baby. Now, this
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: is just this is what you want and I'm wondering,
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: what about it's it's just a it's weird. You guys
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: have all spoken to on your own levels about the
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: predictability of the Buffalo Bill's offense. I do not think
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: that it's okay for a commentator to say when they
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: aren't in shotgun, they're getting the pass, when they are
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: on the center, they're getting ready to run. We are now,
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden running the ball on first down,
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: which was never a staple of Dable or Dorsey's offense.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: We're like way below E p A or whatever they
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: call it for expected runs and stuff like that one
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: first down. What is going on with Scott with Joe Brady,
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: because I feel like he's under he's underpressure.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: But I think it's just wonky to me. It's it's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: weird to me, man.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: It feels to me, and I'm just I'm not so
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: I We'll just put that out there.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: It feels to me like he's trying to use guys
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: in ways they're not ideally used.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: You know, we got this elight more cat. All I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: see is sweep. This guy is supposed to be one.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm listening all season for presentatives from the Speed.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Club on our wide receiver room.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: And I say it that way because I'm not saying
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: they're fastest, but they're the fastest.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: We got right, and.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: I'm watching more and he's doing in a rounds and
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: shenanigans and we never see him never. We rarely see
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: him getting passed down. A real would take eight to
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: ten yards now, you know, to Maybe he can correct
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: me if I'm just incorrect on this, But from a
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: fan's perspective, that's what I see. I'm wondering, where's Elijah Moore?
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Uh just it feels like Brady yourself get too cute
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: and these ridiculous trick play bullshit. I see another do
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: or gent sweep behind the back trap.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: We don't need to do that. We got Jimbo, we
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: got eighty.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Six, got a great seventeen, we got a badass of
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: the line, we got.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Never know what? What what is it with your that's your?
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: I mean that, yes, tell, that's all the way all
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: the way down below the equator, that's your.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: See what what's up much a boy? Man? I mean.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Record? Yeah, I've on record for a long time, you know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: because uh it's pretty clear man, when you have Josh
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Allen as your quarterback and he can.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: Do all this stuff.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: You you wish.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Every quarterback we want to have do it. Then you
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: want to ask him to be Bridge Wander or Kirk
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Cousins and throw five yard passes for your passes and
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: never have an option to leave the pocket or you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: like man so Twin Josh Allen for their cousins and
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: be happy then and money on defense on you want
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: to just you know, and we used to have a
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: powerful passing offenses under table. You could spread it out.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: You have a true whide receiver one, you have a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: matchup night Marion.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: Disley on his slot.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: You have complimentary pieces.
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: But then Brady.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Turns this offense into a run for the unit. And
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: even when they all didn't run the ball.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: So man, it's and and.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I can't I can't understand. For example, he he's had
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: eleven weeks so far and he's hasn't figured.
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: Out who's why receiver one?
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Who's why?
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Figured out there is a time.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: For competition, and there is a time to give confidence
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: to your players so the players can know their roles
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and be like, Okay, I'm the ex Okay, I'm this
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: lot guy, Okay, I'm the number two guy, I will
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: have a certain number of snaps, a certain number of
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: targets going my way, you know. But no, when everybody
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: thinks they can be the guy and nobody becomes the guy,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: yeah something like. You know, I'm pretty sure Eleah Moore.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: Is sick of this role.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: And then Palmer is sick because the only place twenty
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: two or twenty three is naps, and Dan Shavers is
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: sick because he thinks he deserves more targets than he's Yeah, Colonan,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: we can see Coleman is sick because of the all
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: the quiz siasm, and he probably thinks he deserves better
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: as well. And also nobody's happy in this situation.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: And Joshua is not happy. I'm gonna lean on tone
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: for the answer to this, but I think this is
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: just me. I play the trombone, so I don't have
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: much to bring to this. I think if we had
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: a true wide receiver one, I'm just gonna say it,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of these goofy ass problems go away because
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Coleman becomes what he should be, the fifty to fifty guy.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Your one is your one, Your your shakir is your slot,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Your concaid is your scene tight end guy. Everything's sorted out,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: but we don't have that alpha dog, and we got
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: a bunch of chaos in the absence of that. Okay,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: not tone, maybe just say what it really is.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: It's got even sorry, it's on. Just even if Coop
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Coop wasn't the same anymore, but he still was a
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Marii Cooper, you know. And when the Chiefs tried to
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: send some cover zero blitzes and didn't respect Cooper, just
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: through that ball to him and he made the tough
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: catches and we don't have that catches. They don't have
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to jet. The Jets game was tough until Josh threw
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: that ball to Coop. He made that touchdown catch and
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: everything opened up. So even without having prime Amari Cooper,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: you still had America Cooper.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we're like you gotta.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: The Chiefs put McDuffie right at him after they were
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: burned for that first pass.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Why do you think we had no ren game last
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: week because they didn't have to worry about the pasty.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: They aren't afraid of anybody in our wide receiver room,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and even our opensive coordinator don't know who's his wide
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: receiver room, who who is his his guy. That's gonna
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: be a matchup. Nightmare is gonna beat one on one COVID.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: He doesn't know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows what's good. What's good with Joe Brad? Tell
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: me what's good with Joe Brady? Tell me what Joe Brady?
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: Because because then about the about the crash out real quick,
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: I gotta still do a promo if my man's got
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: up there asking what the fuck, like, what's up?
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Man talk talk to tell me what's up? Tell me
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: what's up?
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: So Run Run Game last week, I was just kind
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: of like, shit head, draw stuff.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I can see you over there, I can see you
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: down there, jobbing.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Run Run game.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: Run Game last week was non existing because Joe Brady
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: wanted to be non existent.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm gonna i'm that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: And then he apologized for it after the game and
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: said I should have passed more.
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: Right because because no, no, the run game I'm talking
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: about like it was only thirteen carries.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, the run game was not.
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: Because Joe Brady wanted to be now, all right, So
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna break an example. So this is what I
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: kind of I'm gonna say. If I did this one
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: and marker right. I don't know if that's better.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I like to it there were there now.
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: For example, there's an example when they run it, they
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: have twenty two persons twenty two personnel for those that
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: don't know, to running backs, two tight ends. So the
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: original play would be a twenty three, like a twenty
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: three dive something of that case. It would also be
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: his own read of where he would be where the
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: original play would be to the left. He'd be going
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: to between the left guard and the left tackle. Okay,
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: but what James Cook would do on the first play,
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: he would bounce back and go to the right side.
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: The second play, Joe Brady would be smart and say
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: if he went to the right side, Dad's time. We're
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: gonna go with to the right side now, and he'll
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: turn it from a twenty three to twenty four. He'll
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: get the same amount of yard. Is because James Cook
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: allowed him to see that. But that's because you let
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: him develop that. On the third play, you'll get your
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: play action.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: And that's what that's what you get your pass. Right.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: So one thing that Joe Brady has done is he's
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: been methodical with his play calling in the games that
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: we win right. And this, this is the very confusing
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: part of everything. He wasn't methodical in the Patriots game.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: He wasn't methodical in the in the Falcon, he wasn't
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: in the Dolphins game. Every other win.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: If you if you watch, if you sit there and watch.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: There's a pattern to his play call. Every plague develops
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: a play, so.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: He's he's stringing them together. That is on purpose.
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: And and James Cook is a big part of that
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: because James Cook tells you where your next place should go.
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: This is why James Cook is a top three running
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: back in this league. And it's very underrated by in
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: many eyes. Now here's a problem with the passing game.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: Because there was so much talk about the passing game,
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: and I talk about it as well. Joe Brady abandoned
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: abandons the running game.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: They built this offense to run a zone run West Coast.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Style of offense.
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: Okay, they didn't for Joe for Joe Brady. They didn't
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: build this offense to to run deep choice rots. They
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: didn't build a Brian Dable type offense. They didn't build
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: a you know, a bear a gun shooter type offense.
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: Shot you know, they built a thirteen personnel, twenty two personnel.
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: We're gonna run it down your throat and then play
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: well for that well will open up and.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: We could pass off of that whatever.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: Okay, so when you know, but the caveat to when
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: you build a team like that you need constant thirteen
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: personnel twenty two personnel is that when you don't constantly
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: do that to open everything up, your game playing is
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: shot because anything else okay nothing, yeah, so well nothing
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: for back on, but doesn't It doesn't open up the
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: pass the run exactly, nothing opens up, nothing opens up at.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: All because also for the run to take place, then
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: you work off of that because they gotta watch.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: That run exactly because Joe Brady doesn't have choice routes
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: in the system. Okay, anybody who doesn't understand choice routes.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Choice routs is pretty.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: Much each receive or maybe two receivers are giving two
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: different routes to run.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: So what it is is he doesn't do that.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: He runs your heart, slants your heart, crosses your heart,
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: come back to your hard d passes right, and his verticals.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: He doesn't even use his fastest.
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: Guy for the verticals, which is the frustrating part Elijah
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: Moore is in vertical.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: Curtis Saming doesn't get vertical. It's it's only killed.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: You're good on the crew, you get gritty here, whatever
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: you want, And I think is that kill.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: I I appreciate for being a fifty to fifty guy
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: or whatever, but if you're not using your fastest guys
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: for your most vertical routes, I think you're failing in
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: your past game play, your concepts, your concepts. I do
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: think Josh Palmer coming back helps. I will say that
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: I am excited to see what they do it, Josh,
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: But you built yourself as a run heavy team.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: You have to run. You have to run.
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: And the past the Panthers and Chiefs, it was no
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: lesson twenty five carries in a game for James Cook.
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: You don't go from twenty five to thirteen. So last
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: thing I said against the Dolphins, James Cook average four
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: point one carries on average, I mean four point one
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: per carry on average.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: We're down sixteen nothing in the blink of an eye though.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: That's okay, But but this is this is the same
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: thing that's down sixteen nothing.
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: But then let's the third quarter go to zero seconds but.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: You know what my problem with this kind of offense
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: is with building this kind of offense, because like when
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: for some reason people can stop your run game, or
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: there is a penalty on the play or are one
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: tackle for loss and out of nothing, they want to
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: flip a switch and then say, go Josh, no, I'll
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: save us because the run game didn't work, you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And then they don't have a nice They don't have
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: nice teams, they don't have nice rock combinations, they don't
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: have nice weapons, and they want Josh to fix when
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: things go wrong. And when things go right, Josh is
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: more or less not part of the plan. He just
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: hands it off to Cook. The run game makes the working,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: and oh good, great, but we've seen the last two
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: playoffs the offense having the ball to win the game
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: and you had to throw it because or less on
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: the clock. You know, James Cook is not on the
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: field and you don't have enough thirteen seconds game. People
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: forget it. But Joshua two game winning drives inside the
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: last right here, it's hard, a big time touchdown, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: then later.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: With down, with down.
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: I took my shirt off, I put it back.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I can't understand building in offense like that with Josh
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Allen as your quarterback. You know, like I can't understand
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: you're doing so with Tyreon Taylor.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: But this is the way, this is the one.
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: This is the one, Caviana say that, and this is
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: the front. This is a frustrating part for me to
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: watch this.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: Well. We played the Broncos.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: After that slow first half, what happened in the second
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: half they came out guns and roses and lasting.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And that happened more than one season.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: The raven the first Ravens game, I mean that the
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: first one, the playoff Ravens game. What happened and it
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: was the same type of talent when they needed to
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: do it, they blew the doors off.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: They just railed it back in in the second of
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: We need even years against the Buccaneers, first half was
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: kind of In the second half they.
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: Go jo, they ones and they had the schemes. But
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: but but my point is that I'm saying is that
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: even under Joe Brady, with with what we have mm hmm.
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: You watch the Ravens game, that Ravens game alone, what
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: he did, sure you watch, you watch when when granted
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: it looked a little rougher. But when he came out
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: the gate and the Dolphins, you know, in the second
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: half of the Dolphins, they had the capability of doing.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: Or even the Atlanta games to start the second half
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: come right down score.
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: That's the frustrating is the capability is there. But like
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: you said, it's like telling a bullpen all you're not
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: warming enough just coming to the game and throw a pitch.
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean, you got it. You gotta
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: there's gotta be some rhythm to it. It's hard to
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: I get he's the superman Josh Allen or whatever m
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: v P. You gotta help him build though.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: You got to.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: That's the thing.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like we can ask when we need to, he
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: said it. That's what Scott.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: One of the one of the things that I get,
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: I think there's a fallacy that Week one showed Bill's
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: mafia and and maybe and maybe it's not a one
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Bill's drive and I'll give them credit or whatever. I
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: won't put that onus on them. But one of the
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: things you heard after Week one was, oh, man, Josh,
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: he could just turn it on. He could and we
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: saw saw it against the Saints, saw that that Miami game.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: You saw that Fernando where you're he's just not able
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: to just turn it on. It's not a light switch.
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: And I think Baltimore game kind of fooled us into it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: They had no time left. And we saw Temple offense
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: against the Ravens because against and we know who doesn't
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: like Temple because it puts his difference more often on
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: the field and then they probably and you know, but
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: but yeah, but even I'm talking about mcdermo because when
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: we used to just score too fast with stable, he
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: started to say, oh, difference can't rest. You know. Yeah,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: we saw Temple and operating like that. Josh can take
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: advantage of the posing differences, but he can't run Temple
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: during regular game.
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: Plan during the game, you know, like it's not what
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: mcnmmo wants.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: It's not instructed runway anyway. Yeah, it's not like we
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: aren't built for running this kind of of all. But
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I have a question for for Ton about the offensive
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: line because some stuff that I haven't I didn't used
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: to see and now I'm seeing a lot, especially when
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: it's clear we are starting going to pass or clear
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: passing downs, and we've seen a lot more often than
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: than we are used to swing. Josh or the offensive
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: line struggling sometimes to recognize blitzes where the hitt is
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: coming from. It's not common, you know, it seems like
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: they're not prepared for some of those blitzes. And the
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Buccaneers is a team that it's a heavy a blitz
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: have defense that's going to take on us next game.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: You know what's going on there, you know, because how
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: can they be so surprised by blitzes and like against
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: the Falcons for accent could get them all the time.
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: That was crazy.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: And then is it Josh not recognizing blitzes or or
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: the center or offensive line messing up?
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: How do you see those situations? I think it goes
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: hand in hand. I think there's a little everybody has
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: a hand in the pot. I will say this about
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: the Falcons game, that's the only caveat you'll see. Because
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: O Briak, for whatever reason, has Josh's number. He did
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: it with the Jets when he was in d C.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: He just he's the only guy who was just like
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: Josh is not himself when he when he plays. As
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: far as the on line, I have realized in watching
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: some of the take that there has been miscommunication on
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: the line.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: You know, you've seen guys not helping each other. You
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: see them calling kind of the wrong.
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: Uh oh man, like the like the the wrong way
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: they're protecting there.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm like Joe Blake's uh you know.
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: There's also times where I know there's been a couple
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: of times where there's been a couple of corner blitzeres.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: I think that has gotten the best of this O line.
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: So one thing I realized is that Deal Dawkins is
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: prone to anybody that's losing, anybody that's really fast.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: Okay, so some of.
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: The times when Josh gets sacked, they will run a
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: stunt to where they'll get their fastest guy.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: Running around Deal Dawkins. Okay, you know, and I think
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: there is trouble.
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, at the end of the day, you got choking
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: up to the defense as well to you know, if
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: you have your MIC linebacker showing blitz, you also have
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: a dB showing blitz, You're more tended to go say no,
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: the MIC is gonna come in, and you know, sometimes
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: you just get full, you know, and have But I
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: do feel like they've exploited something because Josh gets sacked
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: usually more when it's dB blitzes. So it is a
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: speed thing. And I do think deal go because it's
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: lined up in a very lazy position.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: And I said it in my my pod.
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: Was that it feels like he started to do the
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: asking Jainty for left tackles, which is were he just
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: stands there like he's Mike Myanes.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: I'm like, and he gets beat like that.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Tampa blitz is thirty of the time, their number five
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: in the NFL.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, the Falcons were forty six before forty one.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Currently Vikings number one at forty two two one. Pittsburgh, Miami, Tampa,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Kansas City.
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: And the way, the way, and this this is this
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: is my issue.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: The way you've been you beat a blitz is by running.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, the way you beat the way you
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: beat the blitz is you have your option to where
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: you come up to the line. You're you're running.
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: Let's say you're running a twenty four to the right side,
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: so you going between the right gold and the right tackle.
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: You look at who's there. If these guys are on
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: the line, you run to your left side, you know
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: what I mean? And and the game plan of what
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: Joe Brady does is supposed to be you use the
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: same play over and over and over till you find
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: the weakness. That's how you defeat Blitzer's you know what
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: I mean. You find that weakness in the blitch, you
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: find out what they're doing. So it's, uh, it's it's
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be difficult. I'm not gonna lie, but but
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: they definitely have their handsful of sooker the Bucks, especially
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: coming off that loss to the.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: Patriots that they had.
• 55:23
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• 55:28
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• 55:30
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• 55:32
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• 55:34
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  Speaker 6: quick thoughts because we've gone on such a deep dive
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: on the past going forward, Patriots win last night, I
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: I have I have personally conceded the AFC East. I
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: don't think it's really that possible anymore. Maybe the way
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: that the Patriots schedule just breaks out, it's just just
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: too damn easy. We had an eedy schedule and they
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: have an easier one because they had the fourth place
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: or whatever it was or third place schedule from last year. Listen,
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: one seed probably gone, AFC East might be gone. It's
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: still there, but you'll need New England to kind of
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: trip up as we go forward with starting with the
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: Bucks on Sunday. How do you see this season playing out, Scott,
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: I'll go around the clock. Listen, I I fought with
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: I fought with people on Twitter all week. Get me
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: into the tournament. I'll let the chips fall because I've
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: seen a garbage ass. You know, Giants team that was
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: nine and seven led by Eli Manning who was not
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: that good.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: He was never elite, and.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: They went all the way to Super Bowl and stunned
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: the Patriots. Of course that of course, that doesn't happen
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: every time I saw Joe Flaggell throw no picks and
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: parlay that shit into a new contract.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: With the Ravens. I mean, you let twelve touchdown. Listen,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: weird shit happens in the postseason.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: Get me a ticket. We should make the playoffs. I
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: think we're still over like ninety percent to make it.
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: I don't have any reason to think we can't be
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: the five, six or seven seats got get in the
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: playoffs and then I'll let the chips fall. How do
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: you see the rest of this year going, Because all
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: of the problems that we talked about, we're still six
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: and three. We're still right there on the heels of
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: the Patriots. Technically, I don't I don't know, man, I
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: don't know.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: We got a lot of football in front of us.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Everything's in front of.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Us, So that's good, but not everything.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah it probably, yeah, there's a very low percentage of that.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: But you know, but but I doubt we missed the playoffs.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Oh god.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: And I'm with you, like, get us in there and
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: let's just see what happens. I will be I'm gonna
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: pledge this to.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: You, Rob.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be in Buffalo on Sunday. I'm gonna
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: be DT and that's what we're going to do.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: And I've got my field glasses, So I'm gonna be
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: watching seventeen on the bench for you and see what
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: the hell is there?
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Please do and talk and talk shit to Baker.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: I think we might struggle with Philly. I think all
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: of our games are winnable based on what I know
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: this team is capable of. Tone kind of related to
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: that earlier is I know we can do it, like
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: we're capable of this stuff, and we've done this before
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: where we had to go on a tear and Miami
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: had a nuclear meltdown, and you.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Think we could. We think we can win the last
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: eight if our if our back was to the wall.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: The one I'm worried about is New England and Philly.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: So I think we make the playoffs. I think we
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: have to go on the road, and I think we
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: can just wait. I'm with you, just wait and see
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: what happens. But I really just want to see Josh
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: back to playing like Josh because it's so much more
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: fun to watch. I love watching that kid play football man,
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: and right now it's there's times when he's pressing and
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: it just doesn't feel like he's having the fun.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: He should be having.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: And that's part of his success is clicking. You know,
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: he talked about being slotted during the Kansas City.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Game in the zone.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: They call that, yes, And I want to want to
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: go back to that because golly, that is fun right there.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: When he's clicking, that's good football to watch.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: So yeah, Fernando all the way south of the Equator
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: in Brazil recording guy reporting. I mean, listen, listen, what
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: how do you see this year shaking out? I know
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: I'm not asking you to grab a crystal ball. I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: am asking you to keep it.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Will with me? Keep it funky? You are hero on
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Nichols City carew you already know how we get real
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: down here. Man. Let's just let what should I expect?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: The rest of the way? What should I expect?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Man? I? When I wrote the season PREVIW of the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Bill season preval at Buffalo Rumblings, I said, this team again,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: like this season wouldn't give me an answer about who
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Who's who?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Is this team?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: Who's who?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: They can be?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I would only have this answer in the playoffs because
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: we've seen mcdermotism also regular season coach who can get
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: into a run the right time to make the guys
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: buy in and win games in a row and figured
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: figured stuff out during regular season. He can make his
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: difference work properly during regular season and they can win
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: the division. Maybe not this year if it's up to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: New England. Right now they have the upper hand, But
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs is where we're gonna see who who
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: are those Buffalo Bills really? If they are different from
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the previous versions that fell short against the Cosas City
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Chiefs and so far this season, man, what this team
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: has showed is maybe that's the year that they finally
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: could build a team or or deal with injuries and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: and the offensive coordinator struggles that they may be will
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: fall short to making the playoffs. So it's concerning in
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: my opinion right still, I think so because.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: I don't think I don't think there's enough good enough
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: other teams that could take us out of that seventh
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: spot for them that would I don't know enough good
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: teams in the conference.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: We have a great run game.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: If they can figure it out defense, it might be
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: enough to make the playoffs. But I'm sure it won't
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: be enough to win it all. You know, you won't
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: win twee games against the best teams in the conference
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: and in the league counting on the Super Bowl as well,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: trusting your run game and asking Josh to be your
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: savior when it doesn't work out. So Brady gotta figure
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: it out. And to be honest, I know mcdermald already
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: said he is totally confident in Brady and they are
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: with him. He said the same thing about Darcy and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: they lost to the Broncos, And right, honestly, I don't
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: trust Brady to figure this stuff out.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: And I think my league has figured Brady out. I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: think my home it's for a change, maybe a change
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: like happened with Darcy. Maybe it's time to happen to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Brady and some adjustments.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Ronald Curry maybe becomes the offensive coordinator.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: He's a former quarterback. I don't know Cromer. I don't
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: think so, because Cromer is the offensive line guy, the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: rue game guy.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: I don't see him. Who knows.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: He's a he's a hell of a coach and he's experienced.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: He's a former coordinator. So they have guys that might
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: be able to tweak things a little bit, you know,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: just like they did when they fired Dorsey, And it
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: might be something that gives us a from yeah, I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: spark and some hope, but to be honest, I don't
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: believe this is the this is the interaction of the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills that will be different from previous years, and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I think it makes the playoffs and it falls short
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: again and Groundhog Day to.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: Save Nicol City Cruise saying Bills, Bafia, don't tell me.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: We recorded for over a fucking hour and we're gonna
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: go out like that with with Fernando. Tell me it's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: all the ship. Please say it now. Say because I
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: heard you a couple of weeks ago that said you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: believe even the run game, you do believe, and obviously
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: O line from your perspective, I understand where you're coming from.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: Tell me something positive. I mean, I said, just just
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: getting to the tournament. Scott said, just getting to the tournament.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: Fernando said, hell no, we may not even get into
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: the tournament. We get it, we can lose it.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Saved the podcast. Now, I know it's a lot of
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: pressure at first time. You better save this ship.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: Tont I know you're running over so been with me
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: for two seconds.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: You're good on time. I don't care about the time.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I want I want to feel better.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: By the Patriots. The Patriots coming up, have the Bengals,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: the Giants, the Bells, and the Ravens very easy.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: One second, let's not do that.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: The Bengals offense with Joe the center has been damn unstoppable.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: If they can't stop they can't stop a those.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: But even Burrow is coming back now, but.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: If the.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: Points but eventually, eventually, let's stay positive for two seconds, especially,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: they're gonna have to outscore team fifty to forty seven
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: and now lose forty seven or forty two in the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: last second of the game.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, no, no, they should have lost. You
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: should have won both those games against Chicago in that
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: other game for sure.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: So is the next week against the Patriots the week
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: that they do that.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know, we don't know, we don't know.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: But but to me, I think that's more of a
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: toss something when people are saying, Okay, how good the
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: Bengals offense has been.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, they just run into a lot of unfortunate luck
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: with how bad.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Are due for a third man? Yeah they are, yeah,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: just averages overdue.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: So now, now, this this is my theory on the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: Patriots schedule, and this might be the Homer coming out
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: of me. I think I think the Begels beat him
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: out of purely having a better offense and outscoring. Okay,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: I think that's how it works. I think the Nines
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: is the part of the season. I think the Giants
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: where Kafkays the new intrum head coach fighting for a
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: head coaching positions, that the field or Jackson. Jackson might
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: be back that game, because that's two. But that might
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: be the brave thought of the year for the Patriots
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: of losing that. Let's not forget when we were five
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: and five and the Dolphins had a clear path and
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 7: one of the then you have Then we're coming into
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: a situation of as Bill's Patriots. Now we control the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: whole destiny.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they lose to them when they're not to us.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: We're back in the driver's seat exactly.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: And then and then you have and then after that,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: the Patriots have the Ravens, and I think the Ravens
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: are are back to being the Ravens, you know what
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: I mean, the Jason Dolphins or whatever.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: We do have to get a game over the Patriots, though,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: because they will have us on the division record, because
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: we've got two division losses.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: That they aren't going to have.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so so the first seat.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: Just to break that down, the coach have the Chiefs
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 7: detections the Jaguar us to see hops.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about the number one seed?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Number one?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: He's going on in brother, that's a monster schedule, man.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: The Colts are about to get into the nitty gritty
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: of their schedule.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: And ouf play settle joke.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: Let's not forget that divisional play is some of the
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 7: hardest play no matter how bad.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: Teams are, unless you're the Tights.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: True, that's true, that's true.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: But the Texans are are The Texans have a new life.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: The Jags are fighting for a playoff life like the
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: Coats might have. Between the Chiefs text and the jack
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: was the next three weeks they might come out with
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: two losses.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: Out of those three. I feel like this is the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: most wide open has.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Been right now. I do agree with you on that.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I will agree with you on this.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: This is what I say, and I said it earlier.
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  Speaker 7: I understand that because things don't look great one hundred
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: percent of the time, there's not enough flash hundred percent
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: of time. It seemed like Josh is in rhythm Sember
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: time that things don't look great.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: You know, I get that. We said the same thing
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: The deba game happened after getting demolished by the Ravens.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: We did what we did in the playoffs against the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 7: Ravens and let's keep it a buck. We scored twenty
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 7: nine points against the Chiefs. We scored twenty nine points
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: against the Chiefs after averaging thirty points all year on
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: the road. This year, this year, while things have seemed
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: difficult with our losses, let's not forget in our wins
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: we've averaged around thirty points a game.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: Still, you know what I mean. It's about building that consistency.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: And I've still seen, although it's like we have to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 7: wait for miraculous time, you still see what Josh has
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: to be Josh.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: Josh is able to be Josh. I think the Dolphins
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: game was a.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 7: Little bit a little bit different on on how that worked,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: and I know he missed things or whatever, and I
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: broke that down. But that first Ravens game against a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: fully healthy Ravens team, when we had everybody available, was
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: enough for me to say Josh could turn it on
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: with knee to Because this all this offense has shown
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: time and time again when everybody's good, caveat. We have
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: to be healthy and Caid has to be on the field.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: Paulman has to be on the field. We can't we
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: can't be missing.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: Why didn't they feel like turn it on against New Orleans?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: Why do they feel like turn it on against Miami
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: the first round? If it's just a light switch turn you.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: Know, you know, you know you know why because they did.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: They didn't. The reason why we lost to Miami because
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: they didn't respect Miami.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Right but even like that, even the first that person.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: Might be because they didn't respect Miami the same thing
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: they didn't respect the sing it was. It's the same
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: situation like the place the stuff that Brady has do
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: and I and I said this, I know we spoke
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 7: in the Twitter spaces in those games where it looked
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 7: like the Bills have struggled.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: It was a pattern in this game call.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 7: The pattern is game calling is we're gonna figure out
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 7: your weekends to a run game and that's it, like
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: we don't have to worry about anything else. I believe
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: there's parts of the game that don't get opened up
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: until until necessary, which I think is a flaw. And
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: and and uh in the game calling management by Joe Brady.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: But I do feel like it's also a way of
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: them saying to the Dolphins, which is what part of
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: why we lost so.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: So to the Saints and even to the Jets. Yeah,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: it's like, we don't respect what you do.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: We're just gonna we're gonna run, We're gonna figure out
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: what we gotta figure out, and we're gonna still win.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do these offense isn't the same as the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: same years offense, Like do you take deadline? They got
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Cooper and need to change it everything. Before getting Cooper,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: they were thrash against the Texans and they were struggling
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: a lot in the pasting game, just similar to what
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: we are seen right now.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: And this year.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: The only games that our offense was able to score
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: and win games.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: Was when the run game was working.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: When the run game didn't work for some reason and
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: we were dependent on fasting the ball, we couldn't.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: We just couldn't. We don't have the weapons, we don't.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Have these teams.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: And then John and then we are out there.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with Josh Man? He can't do out by himself?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: Nobody can, you know?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: So the difference, the difference relying on the run game
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: all the time to win US games. The run game
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: can do that, we are in trouble. That's what's happened
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: This is what I noticed, And this is why I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: say health is a fact. When Palmer and kik are
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: both on the field at the same time, looks different.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: It took to the Falcons game for that connection of bills.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I was about to say yeah, but but we didn't.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: See We didn't see Cooper to that Rams game, and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: then he got hurt. You know what I mean. We
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: remember Correc.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I know he scored a touchdown his first game, but
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, he wasn't.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: Making yeah today.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 7: And and the thing is that I just feel like
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: when we saw Palmer and on the field at the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: same time, and and Shakira, I'll say all three of
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: them at the same time, the ankok four, so we'll
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: go four guys, the offense looked different. I think when
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: got hurt, it changes a big dynamic of what they
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: do and it changes a lot for Josh, you know.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: I what I will say is this team doesn't have
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: depth behind what we have for far play maker to defend.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: When we lose a key guy together Sunday because Kate
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: won't be out there.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: And Shak may not be out there either, So you're playing,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: you're talking about we might have two out of the four.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying. It's interesting, It's gonna be
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: interesting how to use palma. That's my interesting part.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: But I I understand the sentiment and and the reality
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: was it was Curtis Salmon that made the big playing
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: the Broncos game for us, you know what I mean.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: The reality was it was Cooper Amark.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: Cooper wasn't running nine, he wasn't running verse, and they
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 7: respected him because but he wasn't.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: He was a shell of himself, and we felt that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: all season outside of the one game he had.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: You know, we was all wondering when Cooper was gonna
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 7: have a breakout game outside of the Rams game when
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 7: we scored forty two points and was forty four forty two,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So at the end of
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 7: the day, I understand, But I do think when they
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: added Palmer to go on when he came, when they
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: when in ball halls, they had the intention of this
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: offense produced. They didn't rely on Coleman to being a
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 7: better version of what he is, right, I think that's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 7: I think that's a big part of it. You gotta
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 7: rely on your draft picks to evolve. But this offense,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: when everybody's healthy, they've shown you they've been able to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: do it. It's about health. When everybody's healthy, that's gonna
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 7: be the interesting pointbably health.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: Health plus Brady though, because you even admitted tonight that
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: sometimes he'll go away from what is working. And that
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: is an issue, especially with be in the postseason, right
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: because when the postseason comes around, tone, when the posters
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: who comes around from Nando Scott, we can't you can't
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: funk around then, Like, if you're saving some ship, don't
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: save it, you know what I mean? If you're not
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: pulling up you know, I hear you tone when well,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: he's not, Well, we'll just do this against the Saints
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: because we can get away with it. Well, we'll just
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: do this against the Well okay, but then I don't
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: want to hear that ship when it comes wild Card weekend.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. Listen, there's not necessarily
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: then I got to pull it out.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 7: I said this last year in the Ravens game when
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: they were up twenty one to ten mm hmm. For
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: whatever reason, I feel like that's that might be a
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: make dermy thing further livy into your theory of fire.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: McDermott, Is that up the gas?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, He's like, let me let off the gas because
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: they because like I think, there wasn't one Bells fan
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 7: that said if they made that two point conversion but
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 7: a minute thirty, we weren't going to go and score
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 7: like we we saw that game was gonna happen against
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: the Chiefs game. Funny enough, it was very run heavy
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 7: outside in that first series. We were running jumbo packages
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 7: Alec Anderson.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: We bullied them all day, were bullet.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 7: So the run game is what essentially I helped them
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: get those twenty nine points. And it was a system
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: that he wants. I understand it's not all flash. I
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 7: understand it's not all great, and it's a long it's
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: seventeen game season.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: It's not gonna look.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I don't care about flash though. I just want I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: just want to parade. That's it. I thought Whittled the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: other night.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: On his podcast, like I mean, I was in the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: comment section and he's like, they put up my comment.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: I was like, I just want to parade like, oh,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: he's lying, he lying all y'all fans want flash.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I don't care about sizzle. I don't care about flash.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: I just want to meet you guys at City Hall
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: for the biggest parade of all parades of all time.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: Fernando flying in from Brazil. You coming down from Queens,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: Scott coming over from Ohio. I'm coming up from Charlotte,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: getting together with DT and we are having the parade
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: of all parades for our dads, for our moms, for
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: our siblings, for our cousins, for everybody in the mafia,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: you know the ones that are gone as well, you
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like that's I don't care about
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: how it looks. And if you're right about it, you
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: know tone, you know, I don't care if it's got
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: to be your run game.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I don't care if for.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: Thirteen personnel all the way I can say to Clara,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: I will take that shit. I just I wanted to
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: talk about it, and I appreciate all of your guys
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: time to that because I saw something on Josh the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: last couple of weeks, and I've seen it before here
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: and there, and it was weird and I wanted to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: know what you guys thought about it, So thank you
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: for putting your thoughts to that. I wanted to know
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: about what you thought about Brady, so thank you for
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: giving me your opinions on him.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: And that's where we excited to get into the weeds.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: And by the end of the show we're fighting about
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: where how far we're going, and I got tond telling
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: me that we can still got the one seat. I
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: don't want to hear that shit right now because I'm
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: not trying to get my hopes up and I just
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: we'll just we'll let it play out. Man, give me
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 6: a ticket to the tournament, and I promise you any
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: anything can happen.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: I will fight people on that on Twitter. If you
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: guys want to tell me that we're we're not right,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: you know for it, And I'm not gonna fight you.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Because you're my guest.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: But you're telling me there's no way and there's no
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: way and there's no way, like don't, I don't. I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 6: definitely am not prepared to hear that shit.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: There is a way.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: It may not be something that we can clearly see,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: but getting the tournament and you know, shit happens, Scott,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: like you know y'all know I'm not lying. Shit happens
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: in the playoffs.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: You never know. Amen, Listen tonight, I really appreciate it.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Everybody's time. Check out my boy h Scott M. Frey.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: That's fr e Y on Twitter. Listen, one of my
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: good friends. Now I consider him a good friend. He's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: gonna be in Buffalo for the game. Listen, I'm gonna
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: shut you up. I'm gonna give you DT's info.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Check him out.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: We are in the grass slots on California and Southwestern
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: every single Sunday. Shout out to my boy big Ben
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: and a k there out there running the ones and twos.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Bright in the corner. Man, you have a great time.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: But I know you saw you talked to Chmmick and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: stuff like. Listen. Just get out there and enjoy.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: You're gonna walk a bunch of lot.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: Enjoy your man, and enjoy your peoples. I'm really jealous.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: Hopefully the weather goes good for you. Fernando, my man, listen.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: Check him out at Fernando Schmooth. That's s H m
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: U d E. He is the coast excuse me of
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: the leading of the charge that's over a Buffalo rumblings. Listen,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: I've been a part of Buffalo Rumblings for many, many years.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: If you want to have a place where you can
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: go and get your little Twitter fingers and just start
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: typing and talk about They've got a lot of great,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: great members on there, and I've been a part of
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: that committee for a while. Fernando's leading the way, man, Fernando,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: how at the crew, Man. I appreciate you tonight, Man.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you having me and yeah man routine until the
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: n hopefully for.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: I like hoping for the best, you know, hopeing for
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: a miracle. Let's go. We have Josh who knows.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: I love it. Man, I listened. I'm just teasing you.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your time tonight for sure. Listen.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: Check my man out telling your first time tonight on
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: the show. We really appreciate you here at Nichol City
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: cru I'm sorry you missed my host dt uh. He
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: was indisposed with work, but listen check him out. That's
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: O L twenty two underscore bills, my man tone. He
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: is the offensive line savant. He's got it for you.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: He's literally got offensive lines bodies worth of optimism. He
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: got more optimism than me and I usually consider myself
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: a relative optimist. Listen, tone, I appreciate you tonight, man,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: Thank you man for joining us and spending your time.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Man, I really do appreciate it for real.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I appreciate the invite. I was glad I
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: was able to make it tonight.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: And I'll let the boys know now win in a
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: So come twenty five? Were you?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: Just?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: In general? I believe we're going on one two.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know this year.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I love it, love it, I love it. We're gonna
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: end all on the table.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: We're gonna end on that note out there. Listen, shout out,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: you know, listen out there, listen. What do I always say?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: I always say, spread love, not hate. And it really
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: hit home this week. I lost a good friend of mine.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: Shout out to you guys might know, Oh definitely, Scott
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: will remember our old defensive coordinator, Ted Coatroll. I went
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: to school with his, with his son. TJ just passed away,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: age of forty three. It was a shock when I
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: got the news on Facebook the other day. I was
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: floored by it. I couldn't believe it. And listen, my
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: condolence is out to Ted control his family. Everybody out there.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: TJ was one of the first people when I moved
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: from the sticks out in star Point. That's pendlety, that's
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: like my lock form. That's nobody's out there but the chickens.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: And I moved to Williamsville. TJ was there for me
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: for sure, to be just a guiding light, nice kind.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: We all played sports and we lost a brother, a
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: good brother, way too soon for sure.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: And listen.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: I told one of the guys that I was talking
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: to about and my boy Sean Brown. I was like, listen, man,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: I appreciate you.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I love you, man. I always appreciate what you did
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: for me back in the day.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: Let people know what they mean to you now, because
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: I promise you you don't know when you won't be
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: able to tell them. And that's for real. I'm not
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: trying to get sappy on y'all, but that that shit
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: touched me this week. Rest in peace to my boy TJ.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: Control because you never know when it's your time.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: So listen.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: I appreciate you, Scott. I appreciate you for then I
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: appreciate your tone again.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: My co host d E.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: T He already knows how much I love him. Listen, man,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: tell the people that you care about. Let them know
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: that you care. You don't have to be sappy, but
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: let them know that you give a shit because you
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: never You really never know, man, You really don't out
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: there spread love not hate. These were my bills, thoughts,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: said out loud, y'all better hit him with the go bills.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: We didn't go on an hour and twenty minutes. Y'all
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: better hit him with the go bills.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: Now, go Bill's man, go.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: You're the honor of My co host DT would say,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: go bills seven and three. Oh, I love it.