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- 0:02Speaker 1: You tune to The Shan O'Connell Show for the Murdoch
- 0:05Speaker 1: Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred at ninety two to
- 0:09Speaker 1: one a half m.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Portugal is up four zero on Who's Bekistan in World
- 0:22Speaker 3: Cup play a couple of set piece goals for the
- 0:25Speaker 3: Portuguese in the beautiful game. But we're talking some hockey
- 0:30Speaker 3: here on the Shan O'Connell Show.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We're lucky enough to welcome Coach Bear. Andre.
- 0:33Speaker 3: Tourney of your Utah Mammoth recently extended. He will be
- 0:38Speaker 3: here for the foreseeable future and we're all very excited
- 0:41Speaker 3: about it.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Coach Bear, welcome back to the show. How are you, sir?
- 0:44Speaker 4: Very good yourself.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Uh, we're doing great.
- 0:46Speaker 3: We're having a great time this summer where I've jumped
- 0:49Speaker 3: on the soccer bandwagon.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Uh, not exactly.
- 0:53Speaker 3: My favorite sport, but you know, the World Cup, I'm
- 0:55Speaker 3: caught up in the wave.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Coach.
- 0:58Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's fair enough. That's good.
- 1:00Speaker 5: I think that's that's good to have some diversity in
- 1:03Speaker 5: our in our back bucket. And there's the jazz the
- 1:07Speaker 5: draft tonight, so that will be pretty cool as well.
- 1:10Speaker 2: It's gonna be great.
- 1:11Speaker 3: I think it's a great time to be following sports
- 1:13Speaker 3: here in our state. And one of the good reasons
- 1:14Speaker 3: for that is, of course your Utah Mammoth team coming
- 1:18Speaker 3: off a run into the playoffs. And now we get
- 1:21Speaker 3: the good news that you have reached an agreement to
- 1:25Speaker 3: stay on with the club and extension for you and
- 1:27Speaker 3: extension for playing ForSight and you bring in Adam Foot.
- 1:30Speaker 2: I want to start with your deal.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Why did it make sense for you and for the
- 1:34Speaker 3: franchise to keep this marriage going.
- 1:37Speaker 4: Oh, I cann thought for the franchise and you will
- 1:40Speaker 4: have to add them For me, I think as a
- 1:42Speaker 4: no brainer.
- 1:43Speaker 5: I think Ryan and Ashley to put a tremendous culture
- 1:47Speaker 5: around the team and to do everything right to make
- 1:50Speaker 5: sure the player love to be here and they're treated
- 1:53Speaker 5: right and their family and same thing for our staff.
- 1:57Speaker 5: So I think it's a privilege and the honor to
- 1:59Speaker 5: be in that.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Part of that organization. And UH, that is a b
- 2:05Speaker 4: then with those.
- 2:06Speaker 5: Guys for for five years now going on six, and
- 2:10Speaker 5: UH been a really good run with those players.
- 2:13Speaker 4: I love that group, and I love the leadership of
- 2:16Speaker 4: our group.
- 2:16Speaker 5: I love the youth and the depth and the potential
- 2:21Speaker 5: of our group and we have we progress together for
- 2:24Speaker 5: the past five years and looking to keep keep progressing.
- 2:28Speaker 4: There's a lot of upside.
- 2:29Speaker 5: In our team and it's it's exciting to be part
- 2:32Speaker 5: of that, to be every day in the transition with
- 2:34Speaker 5: those guys.
- 2:35Speaker 4: And looking for solution.
- 2:36Speaker 5: I think that the guys really bought in and uh,
- 2:39Speaker 5: the culture we want to have, the mindset of continue
- 2:43Speaker 5: improvement and so on and so forth. So it's great
- 2:46Speaker 5: to be somewhere when you feel you can be yourself
- 2:49Speaker 5: and the player buying in and that, and then they're
- 2:52Speaker 5: excited about it. Every day we show up at the
- 2:54Speaker 5: ring and we have that excitement, that fun to be
- 2:57Speaker 5: together and that fun to get get work. So that's
- 3:00Speaker 5: where I want to be. And there were no doubt
- 3:03Speaker 5: in my head.
- 3:04Speaker 3: And obviously, you know, you talk about progress and this
- 3:07Speaker 3: team only the second year in our home state of Utah,
- 3:10Speaker 3: I run into the Stanley Cup playoffs and incredible excitement
- 3:15Speaker 3: and the fact, I mean being in the building for
- 3:17Speaker 3: playoff hockey is not something I ever would have thought
- 3:20Speaker 3: was possible here in a state I grew up in
- 3:22Speaker 3: after moving from Minnesota. But man, that atmosphere was incredible,
- 3:26Speaker 3: and it was a really fascinating and interesting series against
- 3:29Speaker 3: a team that ended up being obviously the runners up
- 3:32Speaker 3: in the Stanley Cup. You guys played well against Vegas,
- 3:35Speaker 3: obviously didn't get over the hump.
- 3:36Speaker 2: But but what did you learn about this team?
- 3:38Speaker 3: Maybe about you know, tail end of the season or
- 3:40Speaker 3: in that series that you previously didn't know about your squad.
- 3:47Speaker 4: That's a good question. I know what we learn. We
- 3:52Speaker 4: talk a lot. There's a difference.
- 3:54Speaker 5: Between knowing, having the knowledge, and having the wisdom.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Thing.
- 4:00Speaker 5: We knew the emotion of the playoffs, we knew how
- 4:03Speaker 5: physical it is. We knew a little how much the detail,
- 4:08Speaker 5: the little detail makes the difference.
- 4:09Speaker 4: But now we lived it. Now we have the wisdom.
- 4:11Speaker 5: Now where okay, I understand exactly what it means. I
- 4:15Speaker 5: think there were a lot of example, the.
- 4:18Speaker 4: Time and space.
- 4:19Speaker 5: You always see there's no time in space when after
- 4:21Speaker 5: the first first game, especially, we have player coming.
- 4:24Speaker 4: To us, Oh my god, all we can release the pressure?
- 4:28Speaker 5: How can we find our game and we we work
- 4:31Speaker 5: with them a solution of okay, how we can create
- 4:35Speaker 5: more possession and how we can release pressure. How can
- 4:38Speaker 5: we can be more effective offensively and the player progress
- 4:42Speaker 5: inside of that they had justin now they now they understand.
- 4:47Speaker 5: Now they have the wisdom, So we want to be
- 4:52Speaker 5: back in there and the player will.
- 4:54Speaker 4: Exactly know Okay, that's how it's going to be.
- 4:57Speaker 5: And those are the kind of a detail who will
- 5:00Speaker 5: make a huge difference specialty in the playoffs. So it's
- 5:03Speaker 5: the same detail ten.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Times more important. So I think now the player understand that.
- 5:08Speaker 3: I think it was fascinating, not that any of us
- 5:10Speaker 3: ever had any doubt, because he's a great player, but
- 5:12Speaker 3: like playoff, Coolly was something to see.
- 5:15Speaker 5: Now.
- 5:15Speaker 3: It was fun to watch him ratchet up his physicality
- 5:18Speaker 3: and he was he was excited to mix it up
- 5:20Speaker 3: and obviously had some goals and some really important moments
- 5:24Speaker 3: in that series. But you know, when you get that
- 5:26Speaker 3: out of a player that you probably already had that
- 5:28Speaker 3: expectation of him, You already knew that he was capable
- 5:31Speaker 3: of something like that. How gratifying is it as a
- 5:34Speaker 3: coach to be like, Aha, that's my guy, and I
- 5:36Speaker 3: know I can trust him next year, in the next year,
- 5:38Speaker 3: in the next year, when we're back in these positions.
- 5:41Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's another good example you're bringing it.
- 5:45Speaker 5: Cools has that competive mess and that.
- 5:50Speaker 4: IQ and there were no doubts.
- 5:52Speaker 5: But then Tool, that's a really good start of the series,
- 5:54Speaker 5: and then suddenly brought attention.
- 5:57Speaker 4: We told him that, We told him how you will say.
- 5:59Speaker 5: Now they will they will get at you, they will
- 6:02Speaker 5: try to disturb you, insmunate you, and stuff like that.
- 6:06Speaker 4: And then he lived in and then they were all
- 6:08Speaker 4: over him after Whistle and all of it. I think
- 6:11Speaker 4: it was good for him to live in and at.
- 6:13Speaker 5: Some point he realized, Okay, there's I knew it will happen,
- 6:17Speaker 5: but now I understand exactly what will happen. He had
- 6:21Speaker 5: a little bit of frustration because of it at some
- 6:24Speaker 5: point in the series, and then he got used to
- 6:27Speaker 5: it and he.
- 6:29Speaker 4: Dealt with it the right way.
- 6:30Speaker 5: So that is the experience. That's what we learned in
- 6:33Speaker 5: that series. That's why our guys, okay, there's not revelations
- 6:36Speaker 5: stuff we did not.
- 6:38Speaker 4: We did not know. It's well the commanded.
- 6:40Speaker 5: If you do your own work, you know all the
- 6:42Speaker 5: game will be played, and how tight it will be
- 6:45Speaker 5: and how physical it will be, and how the standard
- 6:48Speaker 5: for the raft and everything will be.
- 6:50Speaker 4: So you know that there's a difference.
- 6:52Speaker 5: Between knowing and having the wisdom because you've been there.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Eric Turney is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell
- 6:59Speaker 3: show talking all things Utah Mammoth. Coach Behar has recently
- 7:03Speaker 3: been extended good news Adam Foot also being added to
- 7:06Speaker 3: your staff. What what does coach Foot bring to this
- 7:10Speaker 3: that maybe you didn't already have behind the bench?
- 7:14Speaker 5: Porter is Uh.
- 7:15Speaker 4: It's throof line.
- 7:16Speaker 5: His career is as a player is well decommented. Stanley
- 7:21Speaker 5: Cup winner, one of the best defenders in the NHL
- 7:24Speaker 5: in his era, really rock of defenseman Uh who could
- 7:29Speaker 5: make a good play with the park, but play for Canada,
- 7:33Speaker 5: won the gold medal at the Olympics, play on the
- 7:36Speaker 5: World Cups team one too Stanley.
- 7:38Speaker 4: So all of it, there's no doubt all his knowledge.
- 7:41Speaker 4: He's always been.
- 7:42Speaker 5: A player who will rely on his positioning and then
- 7:44Speaker 5: the details of this game.
- 7:46Speaker 4: So now you're fast forward that as a coach, I
- 7:48Speaker 4: had the importunty to coach with.
- 7:49Speaker 5: Him when I was in Colorado and learned a lot
- 7:52Speaker 5: from footer on detail, positioning, mindset, hide, key of the
- 7:58Speaker 5: game and so on and so forth.
- 7:59Speaker 4: So I mean the apportunate to work.
- 8:01Speaker 5: With him again and now he's more sprints. Now he's
- 8:05Speaker 5: been on too coaching staff who want coach of.
- 8:07Speaker 4: The year in the NHL, So he brings a lot.
- 8:11Speaker 4: I always say coach of the year, it's staff of
- 8:14Speaker 4: the year.
- 8:14Speaker 5: It's the contribution from from everybody. So with Porter brought in,
- 8:20Speaker 5: those two staffs really amazing. So having that's importunate to
- 8:25Speaker 5: have and had.
- 8:27Speaker 4: It will have a lot of knowledge, a lot of
- 8:30Speaker 4: wisdom to our coaching staff.
- 8:32Speaker 3: Coach, You'll have to forgive me because we're all learning, uh,
- 8:35Speaker 3: you know, first the rhythm of an NHL season, and
- 8:37Speaker 3: now we've got to jump on with the NHL offseason
- 8:39Speaker 3: and get to know exactly what your job is like
- 8:42Speaker 3: for these next couple of months. Is you know you
- 8:45Speaker 3: had after your playoff run, You've got some guys still
- 8:48Speaker 3: playing up in the Canadian League, some guys that are
- 8:51Speaker 3: in the pipeline, Gabe Smith within, you know, an incredible
- 8:54Speaker 3: run and and we saw Tja Ginla do some really
- 8:57Speaker 3: nice things this year.
- 8:58Speaker 2: And it's exciting.
- 9:00Speaker 3: You're Utah Mammoth fan because you already like the bodies
- 9:02Speaker 3: on the roster and then you see the young some
- 9:06Speaker 3: size and some of this talent that's coming through. Of course,
- 9:09Speaker 3: you got to find a spot for all of them.
- 9:11Speaker 3: But what does that process look like for you between
- 9:14Speaker 3: now and when you're skating on home ice for the
- 9:16Speaker 3: first time next year.
- 9:19Speaker 5: I think for us, at where the time where it's
- 9:21Speaker 5: all preparation. We finished the season and we do debriefing.
- 9:25Speaker 4: We we look, we review everything.
- 9:28Speaker 5: We review the way we travel, from the way we
- 9:31Speaker 5: take face off, from the way we do special team
- 9:34Speaker 5: five on five, all the system and so on and
- 9:36Speaker 5: so forth.
- 9:37Speaker 4: That's extensive and from.
- 9:38Speaker 5: There takes maybe two weeks and then we say, Okay,
- 9:42Speaker 5: here's the thing we maybe want to change. Example, you
- 9:46Speaker 5: can have your diesel coverage, but you say, okay, our
- 9:49Speaker 5: diesel coverage is pretty good, but there's that part that
- 9:52Speaker 5: our net front coverage and the diesel needs to improve
- 9:55Speaker 5: where our metrics are not that's good. Or we gave
- 9:59Speaker 5: goal of scheme moment and we need to improve that. Okay,
- 10:03Speaker 5: Who are the best team in the league of doing that? Okay,
- 10:06Speaker 5: those are the four or five team.
- 10:07Speaker 4: Okay, so let's say we assigned the coaches.
- 10:10Speaker 5: Okay, you will study those four or five team and
- 10:12Speaker 5: see what they do and is there anything we can steal.
- 10:15Speaker 4: From them or adjust in our system.
- 10:19Speaker 5: And we do that for multiple We have about sixteen
- 10:22Speaker 5: pages of things like that which we need.
- 10:26Speaker 4: To have, project we need to talk about, we need
- 10:28Speaker 4: to improve.
- 10:29Speaker 5: Then we leave for about two weeks every coach work
- 10:33Speaker 5: on those projects and then we meet again and then
- 10:36Speaker 5: now we see where we're at, what we have new
- 10:40Speaker 5: we can bring, and.
- 10:41Speaker 4: How we can improve it.
- 10:43Speaker 5: We do that and after the draft, after the free agency,
- 10:47Speaker 5: after the deathcat, that will take some time off. All
- 10:50Speaker 5: the coaches will go, we'll have their summer. Basically, they
- 10:54Speaker 5: will have some time off and we come back and
- 10:56Speaker 5: of August and we where are kind of a review
- 11:03Speaker 5: those final project and getting ready for training camp.
- 11:06Speaker 4: So that's how the summer looks like.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Okay, so the draft coming up this weekend?
- 11:12Speaker 3: Uh? What is the uh division of labor between you
- 11:15Speaker 3: and Bill and everyone else in that personnel department? How
- 11:19Speaker 3: much are you calling these guys, texting these guys but
- 11:21Speaker 3: like Gil Bill give me this cat, I want this kid,
- 11:24Speaker 3: I've seen him since he was ten years old or whatever.
- 11:26Speaker 3: How much how much involvement do you have in either
- 11:30Speaker 3: feedback input campo for your guys?
- 11:33Speaker 2: Zero? Okay? Interesting?
- 11:35Speaker 4: Zero?
- 11:35Speaker 5: Like zero. Imagine football, if you were playing eighty two
- 11:41Speaker 5: games a year and you're all much time you have
- 11:45Speaker 5: to show.
- 11:47Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense when you put it
- 11:48Speaker 3: that way. Yeah, because you're you're so wrapped up in
- 11:51Speaker 3: what you're doing.
- 11:52Speaker 5: Hey, we were well one hundred hours a week doing
- 11:57Speaker 5: what we're doing. I have no time to start watching
- 12:01Speaker 5: eighteen years old who may or may not be drafted
- 12:04Speaker 5: and may or may may not play for US in
- 12:07Speaker 5: five years because the difference with football and a hockey
- 12:11Speaker 5: is the player we draft will most likely go back
- 12:15Speaker 5: to college or go back in junior and for two years,
- 12:19Speaker 5: three years, four years, then play in the AHL, for
- 12:24Speaker 5: in the minor for US for a year or two
- 12:26Speaker 5: or three and then come to US. So there's it's
- 12:30Speaker 5: a problems. It's a long long way before they're ready
- 12:36Speaker 5: to play for US.
- 12:37Speaker 4: So for me to start putting time in that, I
- 12:43Speaker 4: don't have the time.
- 12:44Speaker 5: First and two, we have an unbelievable staff of scout
- 12:50Speaker 5: who see three hundred games a year each and to
- 12:54Speaker 5: put all their bring together and they have the experience.
- 12:56Speaker 4: The comparison.
- 12:57Speaker 5: Okay, Logan Kooley when he was sixteen years old, it
- 13:01Speaker 5: looks like that this flare who we are looking at
- 13:06Speaker 5: and in the first round, about the same quality skate
- 13:10Speaker 5: like him or so on and so ford state.
- 13:12Speaker 4: They have all those companies and all those details of
- 13:15Speaker 4: the players.
- 13:15Speaker 5: So the scout, you have the amateur scout or responsible
- 13:19Speaker 5: for the draft, and then you have the pro scout,
- 13:21Speaker 5: who they scout all the player in the NHL, in
- 13:24Speaker 5: the age, in the pro, in any pro league, and
- 13:28Speaker 5: they're looking at right here, right now, how can we
- 13:31Speaker 5: improve the team next year?
- 13:32Speaker 4: Okay? The coach, my job will be to say, okay,
- 13:35Speaker 4: that's what we need.
- 13:36Speaker 5: We need whatever left wing or right the goalie, a
- 13:41Speaker 5: part play guy or whatever. We need a faceoff guy, okay.
- 13:46Speaker 4: To play in that kind of insociation.
- 13:48Speaker 5: And then now they go to work and they try
- 13:51Speaker 5: to find which candidate in the league could fill up
- 13:54Speaker 5: that role, and now which one can be.
- 13:57Speaker 4: Available either by free agency or trade. And now we're
- 14:01Speaker 4: starting to build a puzzle.
- 14:02Speaker 5: I'm part of those discussions, but I'm not part of
- 14:06Speaker 5: the discussion on the amateur side.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Last thing before I let you go, coach.
- 14:10Speaker 3: From a fan perspective, it feels like there's maybe at
- 14:15Speaker 3: least the beginnings of a rivalry building with the Vegas
- 14:18Speaker 3: Golden Knights.
- 14:19Speaker 2: Do you get that sense on the bench and with
- 14:22Speaker 2: your players.
- 14:24Speaker 4: We want to hate all of them.
- 14:26Speaker 5: We want to have thirty one team we hate. That's
- 14:28Speaker 5: why we want for sure. When you play in the playoffs,
- 14:31Speaker 5: that's where you build your rivarry, that's where you start
- 14:35Speaker 5: job at imosity with the opponent and start to hate
- 14:38Speaker 5: them a little bit more. But I think we're really competitive.
- 14:44Speaker 5: We're looking at Vegas as a team we want to be.
- 14:47Speaker 5: We want to beat everybody, for sure, but it's a team.
- 14:51Speaker 5: We're taking a lot of pride to play art against them.
- 14:55Speaker 5: Look at Colorado, it's another team, and so on and
- 14:57Speaker 5: so forth. So yes, we want to be a really
- 14:59Speaker 5: COMPETI vid Vegas is on the list.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Coach. Appreciate you giving us some time today.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Congratulations on the extension, Congratulations on a great season and
- 15:09Speaker 3: a run into the playoffs. We cannot wait to see
- 15:12Speaker 3: what is next. We are all on the Mammoth bandwagon
- 15:15Speaker 3: here in Salt Lake. Thank you, sir, thank you.
- 15:18Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I have a great day.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Jan Thank you Bear Turney Andre Turney, coach Bear. One
- 15:24Speaker 3: of the big pieces of news here in the state
- 15:27Speaker 3: is that he is staying on, Adam Foot is coming on,
- 15:31Speaker 3: Blane Forsyth is lead assistant, is staying on continuity on
- 15:35Speaker 3: the coaching staff for a young group that again has
- 15:38Speaker 3: continued to climb this ladder into the playoffs and the
- 15:42Speaker 3: expectation for a coach Bearon company will be that you
- 15:46Speaker 3: win a series next year