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Construcción Plural - Programa 1153 · Construcción Plural - Radio Trend Topic

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  Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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  season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts listen
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  to him on radio train topic of that neither do we have a will.
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  But since it' s not in the day- to- day, it
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  ' s how about my friends, very, but later, Conan there was
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  hanging. Here we are under construction flower starting the afternoon. We' re
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  gonna be waving in a minute. Julio Buruman I don' t have it
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  online yet Julio, no ah it' s already perfect, excellent. Well,
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  I don' t have it on Julio' s line. Although in
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  days I would not say spring read, but well many more today the minimum
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  was less cold be, in the minimum that was around ten twelve thirteen degrees
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  already at eight in the morning or before with machyma of ve two thousand twenty
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  one. The Blue is quiet there. In a thousand and fifty Licky'
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  s bills he also lowers a little to a thousand and three hundred one the
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  risk to go to the government, although Milady said she' s not nervous
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  about the sweat of the dollar, she' s going to settle in.
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  This man is the one who comes to end with Argentina and the world.
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  No, well, he blessed that from the inside he' s a mole
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  eating the state. For me he came to exterminate Argentina. But well,
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  1, 500 eighty- seven of rich country marked in red actions and good
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  Argentines fall for fifth wheel consecutive dysinfo at this hour well, after a while,
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  I will greet Gustavo farraly Wolfson our correspondent. From Mexico. I'
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  m already starting with Don Julio Burman, who is waiting for us Julio good
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  afternoon, how' s it going Hello, that you, how are you
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  Fernando. All right, all right. You' re good, good luck.
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  Well, Miley is the mole who comes to end the state, comes
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  to end Argentina and the Argentines. Well, a little uninvited. Your question
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  was totally counted. I didn' t have anything. I would have told
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  you what my own would have asked you the same for Masa at the time,
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  for Cristina. Something similar talking about distance or somewhere else, but yes,
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  totally not. I believe that Milake has an absolute different vision from what
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  we were dealing with in Argentina. He is convinced that I believe that Miley,
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  in his form, is really convinced that he is laying the foundation for
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  Argentina to come out of decline, that is, I think he believes in
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  that. He' s not really a great theorist. I don' t
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  know, he' s a great theorist. It has macroeconomic, theoretical,
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  pro- master models. Finally, he doesn' t think that' s
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  it. On the contrary, he is invoking the power of heaven, that
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  is. He is convinced that, in fact, libertarianism is not a great
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  economic theory. In fact, teno- economic shocks. It is a political
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  history where it is argued that the State is really the problem of the growth
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  of countries and has to reduce a minimum expression for countries to be large.
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  Something like that does not rum he is totally convinced that if he manages to
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  lower the define tritera that somehow magically comes large- scale investments and Argentina becomes
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  a festival in international capitalism. Then you have to see if this ends,
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  yes or no. But I think he believes that and that' s not
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  part of an exel. He doesn' t have a model where he'
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  s predicting how neoclassical economists do that testus let' s say that comes out
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  which was the result if he' s convinced it' s going to be
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  like that, because that' s the strength of heaven and people. How
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  much you buy from this, beyond what you want the relationship to go down
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  and the thing to be established, buys the people of ideology, of this
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  model totally preset to raze with everything good, there is a buyer low and
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  so on, there is more than one paradox, but what is happening that
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  I got into the accompaniment it precisely of the common people. But the big
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  capitalists, the entrepreneurs, the printers, are not believing. It' s
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  a word because well, well, I' m not. It' s
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  a paradox, but at least it' s a paradox. With the terms
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  commissioners, there' s no point in saying they' re not growing up
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  because they' re believing. Printers prefer a government that succeeds in passing laws
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  rather than a government that has massive population support. But my law is looking.
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  The second thing. That moment prefers to have a lot of popularity rather
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  than negotiating with radicals to test the law. But, well, that'
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  s for the discourse on the subject of caste, as it is, as
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  it is, but he is total. Then you won' t crash with
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  that strategy. If he prefers to have one thing too, it goes hand
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  in hand with the other I say, for example, now I don'
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  t know. Now let' s see the subject. Pv or food and
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  more, but will not pay costs. When the Senate turns this issue into
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  law, it increases the retirees and the side goes further than the two chambers
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  with two persos insist. But I mean, it' s not going to
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  pay any cost, because I think there' s a couple of sectors,
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  just like it wasn' t the college march, the education and the old
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  ones, like they' re a little bit there. In terms of consensus,
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  a little social, let' s say no, which I think is
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  happening. Otherwise, today my law is the social consensus, but it will
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  pay the fees. He' s paying the fees in terms of what he
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  doesn' t have. It' s giving us the magic of entry,
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  investments, etcetera. But he' s actually having a consequence, that'
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  s actually it. That' s why it defies our preconceptions a lot,
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  because my laws. In fact, if we look at it from another perspective,
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  it is as if it is a far- left government that is more
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  concerned today about having the massive support of the population and, above all,
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  the hard core. My leist is the poor. Lose is not accomplishing anything
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  from above, and that I thought would stop or stop something. At first,
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  he didn' t care about that even when he took out the dressing
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  gown from the retirees. First of all, he puts a totally weak government
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  at the institutional level, making the support of public opinion extremely important, much
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  more so than in other political regimes. Secondly, when he made the adjustment
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  measures and so on, it was not that he lived in a pending situation,
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  that is, he took into account the issue of the preparations and so
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  on. He always looks at the polls, but when he came with the
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  blender he mostly and the bike closes in the first stage. Then it'
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  s a more pragmatic milak of this last couple of months. But I'
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  m saying no, no, no, no, it' s just that
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  he stopped by the polls or what society could react to. Let' s
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  just say, I don' t see it that way. I mean,
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  we can feel, obviously, but I, I, I don' t
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  see it that way. Hey, I, yeah, we' re going,
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  I, yeah, I grew him, but we got him. Worry
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  about you because now, but you see it from the go, or you
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  see it now. He says well, not just now, said Julio,
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  I lost my hand with garlic, well, it' s crazy, but
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  we can open our hand a little bit with the fair one and you say
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  it now I don' t say it four months ago. First, I
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  am burning the issue of alignment with the issue of your political strategy. He
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  thinks he' s adjusting because he thinks it' s the way the country
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  gets up. Come on. But the more you adjust, the more popular
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  you' re going to know. But it' s not happening like that.
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  I don' t know for now. Three half society in favor and
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  I' m against it. Nor is it that the king of Rome,
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  the emperor of Rome, must be empressed, no, but he is not
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  paying for it. It was the cost. He' s paying you the
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  cost. The visions that was the first burst by adjustment. Say, the
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  governor' s stopping. No one beats Chan or Play for the million.
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  It' s a case, because it' s a case. If you
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  were told there are probably three provinces and different societies. Okay, but for
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  now that' s what we got. One wants to look at where the
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  population exploded, because it was just missions and is blaming the political caste and
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  the governor that this is twenty years ago. Well, he' s not,
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  but he' s in his game, he' s going busy a
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  thousand miliste representing what they' re angry at. They' re not gluping
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  Miley' s glupa You think they' re going public. No, my
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  law is not to blame for people not reaching mass opinions. Well, it
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  ' s new, too. He' s not even six months old,
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  not six months old or six months old, so he didn' t put
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  Alfonsinas or Alfonsino at six months old. I was discredited, let' s
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  say, well, but just p yes. He was also lucky in quotation
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  marks that he came after an absolutely discredited government. How it had been in
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  the dictatorship. Just the challenge of my law is that traditional politics didn'
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  t finish seeing the level of anger people had with outgoing governments. I wouldn
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  ' t even say the last one with all the last months. With that,
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  that' s giving a plafon to make politics different from what we assumed
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  from the higher doubts. It looks a bit like foncin cam if you see
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  a thousand is very different. But Miley' s thing is just like the
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  rise of someone after I' m dying, irruptive. And even the question
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  of the millions and how long do you think this is going to last?
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  That patience is public opinion. Let' s just say, the polls say
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  no more to people when they ask if people are already in the patient and
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  they' re very little what he did, they' re going to get
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  him a lot of time. I think there' s a hard milleist core
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  that' s going to bench it, a time of a kind very similar
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  to the core of tough cristinists for so big lost. This change, not
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  that is economic. Those twenty, five, thirty percent, yes, let
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  ' s say between twenty and thirty. Not very similar to the Maine between
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  chris, but of course. I think I agree there with you at that
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  point that well, there, at one point above all the voter of Patricia
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  Not that she joined my law in the second round. It goes there,
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  it' s going to go and that' s what you tend to believe,
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  but I wouldn' t underestimate the capacity of my law as well and
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  it' s left of public opinion. It does not seem to me that
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  there is certainly something very notorious and how and how you can paste petrovelo themes
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  you more lack of management and so I say today seem to bounce the bullets,
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  although I think they begin to enter. But I' m saying enough
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  to bounce. This is that it is almost more abroad than in Argentina that
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  he believes himself to be an intergalactic world leader, as I chant this one.
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  Now, this topic of retired whistles he' s not going to keep
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  bouncing and in any case gambling, he' s going to get into it
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  all together. But for now you believe that difference in little of mine that
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  it is still bouncing off. Let' s say if this starion doesn'
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  t stop any of the dry you listen to me and some affect it.
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  No. No, I don' t think they' re affecting him,
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  because just me on the whole subject where he' s located as the different
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  one. Not good. But let' s see, if vespera goes from
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  July, dress the retired subject, where the different is. Someone is going
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  to say Cristina did the same thing with the eighty percent who was a big
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  budget beaver, but let' s put him but where the difference is,
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  where the popular thing is in vetoing for a moment he plays it went to
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  the state accounts. Not good, the subject jubilees. Let' s see,
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  let' s see what happened to it. But on the other hand,
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  I don' t think you can put it in. But not as
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  you expect, pear, pear, pear, let' s go space.
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  You' re saying that you don' t think he' s going to
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  veto it, that he' s not going to be able to and what
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  that means to see me translate because I think he' s going to write
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  me up, he' s going to turn the letter around, because I
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  think if they all come together against me, well, yeah, yeah,
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  well, he' s going to veto and they' re going to insist
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  on it and they' re going to tar. But it takes me a
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  long time to veto in principle and I' m sure it' s going
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  to get in. Well, he said yes, although notice that in yesterday
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  ' s tweet well sent him several tweets, but in one of them half
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  he doubts whether he will be able to veto or not in a moment he
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  says or we will see what happens on December 11 of the two thousand fifteen,
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  that is, when he considers that he will have capacity for late.
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  So, Miley is already opening up, opening up a little umbrella saying that
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  you have to see if I veto ninety. But, well, I don
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  ' t know that he' s probably going to face a fight against caste
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  quotation marks, but all things are mentioning. Let' s get out of
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  the issue of what retirees are getting, because we don' t think care
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  is going to believe that they' re suddenly much worse than before. Retirees
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  are considered to be wrong. Not yes generations ago, but good is also
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  this much of the lincua. They are of wine of the populations no yes,
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  but the retiree do not know if they count to fine how many liquo
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  already considers that it is at the bottom of the swamp. Generations ago,
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  many retirees are on the rise in the first few months, when well I
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  don' t know what is in the house when I don' t have
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  the first few months the retirees say they are not fools and then there are
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  also the Ciscos, which are what we help or we have helped to go
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  songs that all the players receive a help from the family. Well, okay,
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  more how much retirement you can' t keep with your retirement, how
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  many generations you wanted to see the attitude. Well, it' s okay,
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  it' s okay, but the previous west does come to change the
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  thing and, instead of changing it, it deepens it more for worse divadi
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  but I mean it has to name Berto, whatever it is is a little
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  bit on the line that you' re plinting. You people are going to
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  consider it much worse than before and you can react. But that is not
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  happening, because precisely what the policy was not seeing was that people were already
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  reconciled at the bottom of the well. The idea that could be a little
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  worse already is that it is a kind of abstraction for many people because it
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  is no longer living according to what it was receiving. For example, retired
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  who receive good help, they will receive a little more help, but the
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  change is not qualitative. It' s the minimum retirements that make a lot
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  of them unscentable. That' s why I don' t think it'
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  s working. The logic of since it' s gotten worse and people are
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  going to go back to Cristina and Maya. That' s why my law
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  is the only thing standing, because that rational evaluation logic is not working.
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  And many of the things to mention that deep down, miniendas turn in their
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  favor. You are the scandal of Peto Blo, but he argues that he
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  is fighting against Great Boys and Lemon and not who else and in that antagonism
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  and ends up winning. No. I don' t know if it'
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  s over, because it' s not right. Obviously, I respect your
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  look and I' m gonna say I end up talking. It' s
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  as good as you want. When he lost the vote on stage in Congress,
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  he was the prince of revelation. Let' s see this It'
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  s like ways to play river mos. I' m a worse three-
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  to- series riverer and I say no, but it worked for me because
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  we kicked Michelle out Well, yeah, let' s start with the positive
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  part. I mean, that' s a manipulation of reality that always ended
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  up winning oracho by saying no, but that' s what I' m
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  saying. What happened in February was lost by the vote. He really retired
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  to win the battle and pin it. He had won the General bottle.
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  He will be, but Julio he retired without knowing why they put the thing
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  in commission and you didn' t know they were taking it out of you.
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  He lost parliamentary arraignment for a year. I say we don' t
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  fuck around and it' s on the flat and they beat it up with
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  forty- five burtos. That' s right. Then he was in the
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  extremity starting to pull things out in the particular, but he could quietly move
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  forward as if he had been a normal politician, let' s say,
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  and he was advancing it. It was the joyous one. After some way
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  he kept looking for the things he lacked, but he preferred the moral battle
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  in the law, that is, he is clearly at another frequency. Yes,
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  yes, but the theme if that sequence is the long successful basis,
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  because to be in this account the caste that I am, because if people
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  are only good for more relationships. And today is the expectation? That today
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  there is the expectation that it is a new Government and all the disaster that
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  left the previous one, which is all that favours us. He is more
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  like a cape that there is no ponies or is divided. It is the
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  previous one, the evolution is a lot of banura on the part of the
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  public. He' s the cla in a place where he' s against
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  everyone, and that' s for now. It' s working. Now
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  it' s going to jan listen to events, yes, but not the
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  term that everything is rearranged. What I think I' m going to make
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  everything as it was before. It' s not like people are gonna say
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  ah with hairs how you think it' s gonna be better. And I
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  think this is gonna change when newer people show up than milay or. In
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  any case, when the good part of the pinipulia that even Lin remembers,
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  I begin to go to Milliku a politician shot more teulo Gilags to escape from
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  that place. And for now he' s accomplishing, including that, as
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  you said, an intergalactic leader, he' s getting hold of him because
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  he does things your team chooses from the common politician' s place. Well,
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  Julio, thank you, as always uh, hug, big thanks,
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  but hug Julio Buruman, here under construction Uruban, Julio Burgos we go to
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  Gustavos were bolves. We have some little technical problems called wi FI and last
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  Tuesday and here we have it receiving the overwhelming triumph. See you have something
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  to present, not don Juan. Let' s hear that and the results
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  of many elections for mayor and the legislature, that' s why. It
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  is clear that we already won and I had told them for months that we
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  were going to win this selection, despite all the traps, all the lies,
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  despite all the abuse of power and its millions of pesos diverted to help
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  its candidate. This isn' t it, too. Thank you, Jon,
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  thank you. This isn' t Claudia Shaiman who won the election.
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  How predictable it was. You have this Gustavo Forrary Wolvenson, he explains.
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  Good afternoon, Gustavo, what' s up. I lost him there,
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  I got him silenced, I got him mutated, we didn' t throw
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  him out there. We are. Well, good afternoon. Look at this
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  one. That is the opposition candidate Pochila has senate the Sochi galves. He
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  won, they won, he won, he didn' t lose by thirty
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  - seven seventy- five. It was lost by two or three dots and
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  that' s why he declared this while he was counting the vote is browned
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  for very little. Then yours. It' s very ironic, but it
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  was doubled in votes. But like the little thing that came out saying he
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  won. Well, I don' t think he wins. The consciousness looks,
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  evidently, is part of things. There' s not a debate until
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  the last one doesn' t even speak out and put a hole in social
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  media. We already won. I think we already won by the possibility that
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  they had a camera. And that' s a gain, because if you
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  don' t swear to anyone. But good God. Or I really think
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  that to see it was an overwhelming triumph of the candidate, but there would
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  be once after the euphoria, to channel it. The great winner of that
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  election called Andrés Manuel López Oraz, where he really wanted not necessarily Claudia'
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  s triumph, although logically, but the triumph of his political project, begun
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  eighteen years ago, which culminates that famous fourth transformation, where it is called
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  let' s say that historical step or notice that Claudia may not, perhaps
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  not reality gets more votes than Andrés Manuel himself. It' s not that
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  she gets more votes, that is, it' s really a referendum on
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  managing him, his years, his struggle. What we' d like to
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  call your phenomenon that' s past history. So he' s not saying
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  good I quit. My candidate was perhaps the phenomenon. I mean, people
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  approve of me so much that I put anyone and it' s any garg
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  and that also has a lot of readings you look at, because it also
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  wins in most states, even with polls that I' d like you to
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  talk about one day with our dear friend as a fada cart because there were
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  both sides, that is, but none really reflected good. Yes, it
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  was known that Claudia won, I had polls perhaps at the same level as
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  the opposition. We' re growing and the thirty- five points are not
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  a sign of growth. What is interesting is how that was transpolarized to the
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  provinces, even to the municipality let' s say in the province where where
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  I' m brown the calculations were that they swept the municipalities with practically the
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  same amount of votes that Claudia and I would tell you that except for two
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  municipalities, practically Morena lost them as a party in all. He needed the
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  sum of the votes of the chiquitaje, which formed his geopolitical space, that
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  is, the top of other small parties to triumph in those municipalities. In
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  other words, the project is voted on where Manuel is, but the municipal
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  arrangements that are quite poor generals in many parts of the country are not approved.
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  Not then, I think he got everything you wanted You said good to
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  me, the 100- dream miner of life. The workman has already come
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  to one hundred and one perpetuating himself is that his project was to be the
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  first to give a woman the opportunity to be president. The first Tomás tells
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  you you' re going to win with the votes I want, because,
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  obviously, Claudia, that is, she' s not a charismatic person.
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  To tell you quite empathetic, it is scientific, scientific science, not that
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  they have generated that aura for political difference. Then it was made, it
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  appeared. There was no precise conference tomorrow where the type, despite the limitations
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  and prohibitions of the electoral institute, did not go down the line. So
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  I' m the old man' s system, let' s say prita
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  model. I am the system, I manage the system and I am going
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  to have the votes to modify perhaps the system so that, if we generate
• 23:33
  that, let' s say fourth transformation after the seventy years of prit the
• 23:41
  prescinsion, on the one hand, to say good gender a new political space.
• 23:44
  But at the same time I' m leaving and I' m leaving
• 23:49
  let' s say that fourth transformation, because the first thing Claudia vo notice,
• 23:56
  that the international markets were shaken by the collective. The first thing that
• 24:00
  made the only decision confronted his finance minister. Yeah, it' s funny
• 24:07
  for two things to say to see I' m not going to eat the
• 24:11
  balurdo that you' re going to leave it to me, which is what
• 24:15
  happened with Sergio Tomás. No, so, at least stay and fix everything
• 24:18
  and then we see who you take for Econombia. Not then. It shows
• 24:26
  what we have talked about so many times, that is, I am the
• 24:33
  successor, but I am not the heir well, I spoke here last Tuesday
• 24:40
  with Ignacio Lavaquí, a prominent political scientist. As a friend also of Carlos
• 24:44
  Fara and told me to see you have to see who the governors and legislators
• 24:48
  answer to. I do not think that amblo retires and should not be ruled
• 24:53
  out and I am reading now from the baquí I go to the reform of
• 24:57
  the Journal, reform of Mexico generates more qualified controversy. That shouldn' t
• 25:02
  be ruled out. It said here on Tuesday that they can reform or try
• 25:07
  to reform the Constitution and let Amlo have a mandate, remembering that it is
• 25:12
  not like in Argentina, in like the United States, a president once ruled
• 25:15
  cannot return a second or consecutive nor in more than twenty years. Well,
• 25:21
  we shouldn' t rule this out. Well, I hear you look,
• 25:26
  obviously, managing the war of battle. The real battle has been with the
• 25:33
  judiciary and electoral institutes, where one of the great victories of the modern politics
• 25:38
  of Mexican democracy was the independence of the electoral district. It does put brakes
• 25:48
  on everyone, that is, when I say everything from the point of view
• 25:53
  of sustainability. Not being able to give away a virome as political propaganda,
• 26:00
  because it is not reciclave. It has to be everything looks at fabric products,
• 26:04
  not things like that, no, no, no, everything, but
• 26:10
  less with the traps that you can always do everything. But it' s
• 26:15
  counting, I mean, you can' t say well, I, Fernando
• 26:21
  Mauric, have a restaurant and tomorrow I' ll give my candidate a roast.
• 26:26
  Yes, and there you can say no. They gave it to me.
• 26:29
  That' s not accounted for, that is. The electoral institute has
• 26:33
  functioned within everyone with exemplary autonomy. In the last few years. Obviously,
• 26:38
  that has affected or bothered him with this autonomy, because I cannot control Andrés
• 26:44
  Manuel and the judiciary. The same thing, even though his last President of
• 26:48
  the Court became the operator, resigned and became the political operator of Claudio Sheman,
• 26:55
  I do not believe that he has the possibility of making a continuation.
• 27:06
  I don' t think the system would allow it. Even I understand and
• 27:14
  by common friends, Claudia has already pulled lines with the Trump administration or with
• 27:21
  the future Trump administration. There was a foreign visitor program on Sunday where all
• 27:26
  the Liric people were at the Republican Institute, like the tim Tang of the
• 27:32
  Republicans, they were already there with her, etcetera. I mean, it
• 27:37
  ' s three thousand and five hundred kilometers from the border. It' s
• 27:38
  not bullshit. That' s not gonna go where the border was closed anymore.
• 27:45
  They' re going to start playing some songs. Let' s say
• 27:48
  gill. It' s the migration issue, because I don' t think
• 27:52
  Claudia wants you to let' s say debuting with those gas masks on her
• 27:57
  back. But I do not see very difficult the possibility of saying reform.
• 28:03
  Manuel, the reform may be to take power away from the institutions today,
• 28:11
  but I felt like enabling amlo. No. No, no, no,
• 28:12
  no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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• 28:12
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• 28:12
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• 28:12
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• 28:12
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• 28:12
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• 28:12
  no. Da No? No, no, but what role he'
• 28:17
  s going to play amlo, he' s going home, what a tact
• 28:23
  in his first morning he looks at you. We don' t know.
• 28:27
  Mexican politics is so vertical that the day after tomorrow, Claudia and it has
• 28:34
  happened historically with all the successors give her a dream of grace and then she
• 28:40
  lies on the side of government. And the only thing I believe for the
• 28:45
  opposition too is Monday. He started building the election in six years, which
• 28:52
  I don' t think Morena has the possibility and that' s an analysis,
• 29:00
  but to repeat for the third time why, because there' s no
• 29:07
  longer going to be to distribute it ok ok I understand just as much as
• 29:14
  it' s going to generate. I think there' s a not going
• 29:15
  to say a collapse, no, but let' s say a very strong
• 29:19
  imbalance in finance that doesn' t have to stop clear, of course,
• 29:26
  or is really the strength. So, to see the project started and ended
• 29:29
  with me. The story happened tomorrow our grandchildren or the grandson of any Mexican
• 29:36
  will say the best president of the story was Andrés Manuel López Obrador, it
• 29:41
  was not Claudia Shaiman. What' s more, I would say Fernando even
• 29:48
  in the communication girls who are already coming down from the Presidency of the Republic,
• 29:55
  both governors and mayors, to street speeches. Not the opening of a
• 30:00
  school is already, they' re suggesting including the best President in my history.
• 30:10
  Well, well, well, in Gus we' ll see you on
• 30:15
  Wednesday that comes in perfect agreement, all right brady. Thank you very much,
• 30:18
  as always, big hug, my friend Gustavo close the Golfenson here in
• 30:22
  prol construction to close our week. We' re leaving. We' re
• 30:23
  flying two Tuesday afternoons. We return thanks to Juan, Thank you Silvia bye bye