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WHAT THE HAL?? PODCAST 2.0 – EPISODE 11: ICE Raids and Your Rights — What You Need to Know · What the Hal?? 2.0

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  You've
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  seen
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  them.
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  But
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  do
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  you
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  know
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  what
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  to
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  do
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  if
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  you're
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  caught
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  in
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  the
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  middle
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  of
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  an
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  ICE
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  raid?
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  I'm
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  Hal
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  Eisner,
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  and
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  this
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  is
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  what
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  the
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  hell?
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  Smart,
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  fresh,
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  and
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  uplifting.
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  We've
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  got
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  the
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  stories
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  that
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  make
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  say,
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  what
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  the
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  hell.
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  For
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  months
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  now,
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  we've
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  been
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  dealing
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  with
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  the
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  issue
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  of
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  ICE
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  raids
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  and
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  immigration
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  enforcement.
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  It's
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  been
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  impossible
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  to
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  avoid
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  even
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  if
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  you
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  try.
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  What
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  do
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  you
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  do
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  if
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  you
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  find
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  yourself
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  enmeshed
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  in
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  an
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  ICE
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  rain?
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  What
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  are
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  the
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  rights
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  of
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  bystanders
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  and
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  the
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  rights
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  of
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  protesters?
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  I'm
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  Hunter
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  Lowery,
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  and
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  we've
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  got
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  our
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  legal
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  expert,
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  Ugo
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  Lord
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  with
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  us
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  today.
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  And
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  shoot
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  questions
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  at
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  you,
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  Ugo.
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  You
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  are
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  a
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  nationally
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  recognized
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  legal
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  expert,
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  an
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  international
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  keynote
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  speaker,
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  and
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  a
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  business
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  coach.
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  And
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  you
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  may
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  know
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  him
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  from
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  his
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  jaw
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  dropping,
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  his
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  social
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  media
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  accounts.
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  He's
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  got
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  5
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  billion
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  views
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  on
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  his
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  various
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  platforms.
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  Welcome,
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  Uga.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  I
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  love
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  seeing
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  you
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  guys.
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  Thank
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  you
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  guys
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  for
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  allowing
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  me
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  part
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  of
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  the
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  show.
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  Well,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  think
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  we
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  should
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  do
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  this
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  show
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  about
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  your
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  5
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  billion
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  views.
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  How
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  the
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  hell
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  did
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  that
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  happen?
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  Not
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  as
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  interesting
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  as
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  the
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  topic
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  at
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  hand,
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  you
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  know,
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  but
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  I
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  became
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  very
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  fortunate
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  and,
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  and
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  very
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  lucky
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  that
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  a
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  few
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  people
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  wanted
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  to
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  listen
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  to
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  what
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  I
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  had
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  to
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  say,
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  shockingly
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  enough,
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  so.
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  You
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  could
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  be
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  considered
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  a
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  viral
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  sensation.
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  I
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  think
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  that's
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  what
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  the
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  kids
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  are
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  calling
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  it
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  nowadays.
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  But,
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  you
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  know,
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  when
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  it
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  comes
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  to
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  my
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  co
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  workers,
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  when
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  it
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  comes
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  to
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  my
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  family,
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  I'm
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  still
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  the
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  same
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  attorney
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  that
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  I've
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  always
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  been.
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  I
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  just
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  have
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  an
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  audience
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  that
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  is
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  interested
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  in
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  hearing
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  my
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  legal
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  take
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  on
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  things.
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  So
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  joining
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  us
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  is
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  the
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  sweet,
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  lovable,
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  very
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  kind,
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  and
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  quite
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  modest
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  Hugo
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  Lord.
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  Unfortunately,
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  Elsa
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  Ramon
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  couldn't
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  be
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  with
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  us
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  today,
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  so
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  Helen
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  and
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  I
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  will
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  carry
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  on.
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  But
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  let's
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  talk
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  about
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  this
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  immigration
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  issue.
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  We
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  got
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  plenty
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  of
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  other
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  issues
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  as
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  well,
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  but
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  this
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  issue
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  of
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  ICE
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  raids.
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  You
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  know,
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  after
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  months
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  of
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  chaos,
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  the
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  administration
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  has
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  announced
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  that
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  the
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  enforcement
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  actions
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  are
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  just
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  getting
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  started.
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  So
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  tell
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  us,
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  what
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  are
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  the
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  rights
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  that
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  people
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  have
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  if
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  they
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  get
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  confronted
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  by
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  a
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  knock
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  on
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  the
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  door
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  of
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  their
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  home
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  or
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  their
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  business?
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  Yeah,
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  it's
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  important
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  to
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  remember
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  with
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  these
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  ICE
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  raids
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  that
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  you
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  essentially
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  have
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  two
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  constitutionally
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  protected
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  rights.
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  Your
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  first
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  set
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  of
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  constitutionally
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  protected
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  rights,
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  of
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  course,
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  is
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  the
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  right
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  to
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  peacefully
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  protest.
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  Individuals
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  can
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  peacefully
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  protest
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  ICE
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  activities,
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  which
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  is
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  protected
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  by
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  the
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  First
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  Amendment.
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  It's
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  part
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  of
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  their
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  First
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  Amendment
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  free
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  speech
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  right.
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  And
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  then
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  a
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  second
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  constitutional
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  right
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  that
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  you
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  have
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  is
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  you
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  have
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  a
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  Constitutional
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  right
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  to
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  record
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  ICE
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  agents
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  that
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  are
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  out
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  in
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  public.
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  Now,
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  it's
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  important
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  to
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  remember,
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  Hal
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  and
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  Hunter,
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  that
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  when
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  engaging
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  in
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  these
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  constitutionally,
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  constitutionally
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  protected
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  activities,
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  you
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  cannot
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  interfere
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  or
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  impede
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  with
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  federal
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  agents.
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  And
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  that's
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  exactly
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  what
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  ICE
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  agents
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  are.
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  They
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  are
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  federal
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  officers
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  that
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  are
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  conducting
• 3:21
  a
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  specific
• 3:22
  mission
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  as
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  it
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  relates
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  to
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  immigration
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  enforcement.
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  So
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  you
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  can
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  record
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  them
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  from
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  a
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  safe
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  distance,
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  you
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  can
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  peacefully
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  protest
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  from
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  an
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  approved
• 3:31
  distance.
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  But
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  if
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  you
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  ever
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  find
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  yourself
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  mixed
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  in
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  between
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  ICE
• 3:37
  agents,
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  that
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  is
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  when
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  it
• 3:39
  is
• 3:39
  likely
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  that
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  you
• 3:41
  are
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  now
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  interacting,
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  interfering
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  with
• 3:43
  ICE
• 3:43
  agents.
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  And
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  if
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  you
• 3:44
  interfere,
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  then
• 3:45
  you
• 3:45
  could
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  be
• 3:46
  subject
• 3:47
  to
• 3:47
  arrest.
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  And
• 3:48
  as
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  we
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  mentioned,
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  these
• 3:49
  ICE
• 3:50
  agents,
• 3:50
  they're
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  there
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  for
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  immigration
• 3:52
  violation
• 3:53
  enforcement,
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  right?
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  So
• 3:54
  they're
• 3:54
  there
• 3:54
  to
• 3:54
  enforce
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  immigration
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  laws.
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  However,
• 3:57
  if
• 3:58
  ICE
• 3:58
  agents
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  witness
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  someone
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  committing
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  a
• 4:01
  separate
• 4:02
  crime,
• 4:02
  such
• 4:03
  as
• 4:03
  impeding
• 4:04
  or
• 4:04
  interfering
• 4:04
  with
• 4:05
  an
• 4:05
  investigation,
• 4:06
  even
• 4:06
  ICE
• 4:07
  agents
• 4:07
  do
• 4:07
  have
• 4:07
  the
• 4:08
  illegal
• 4:08
  authority
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  detain
• 4:10
  and
• 4:10
  arrest
• 4:11
  an
• 4:11
  individual
• 4:12
  who's
• 4:12
  interfering
• 4:13
  with
• 4:13
  their
• 4:13
  investigation.
• 4:14
  And
• 4:14
  Hunter,
• 4:15
  before
• 4:15
  you
• 4:15
  jump
• 4:15
  in
• 4:16
  there,
• 4:16
  let
• 4:16
  me
• 4:16
  just
• 4:16
  ask
• 4:17
  real
• 4:17
  quick.
• 4:17
  When
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  talk
• 4:18
  about
• 4:19
  interfering,
• 4:20
  that
• 4:20
  can
• 4:21
  that
• 4:21
  be
• 4:21
  subjective?
• 4:22
  I
• 4:22
  mean,
• 4:22
  if
• 4:23
  somebody
• 4:23
  is
• 4:23
  standing
• 4:23
  there
• 4:24
  and
• 4:24
  they're
• 4:25
  really
• 4:25
  not
• 4:25
  doing
• 4:25
  anything,
• 4:25
  they
• 4:26
  just
• 4:26
  happen
• 4:26
  to
• 4:26
  be
• 4:26
  at
• 4:26
  the
• 4:27
  wrong
• 4:27
  place
• 4:27
  at
• 4:27
  the
• 4:27
  wrong
• 4:28
  time,
• 4:28
  could
• 4:29
  an
• 4:29
  ICE
• 4:29
  agent
• 4:30
  accuse
• 4:30
  them
• 4:31
  of
• 4:31
  interfering
• 4:31
  just
• 4:32
  by
• 4:32
  being
• 4:32
  there
• 4:33
  in
• 4:33
  quote
• 4:33
  unquote
• 4:34
  the
• 4:34
  way,
• 4:35
  and
• 4:36
  then
• 4:36
  they're
• 4:36
  in
• 4:36
  trouble?
• 4:37
  We've
• 4:38
  seen
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  lot
• 4:38
  of
• 4:38
  videos
• 4:39
  from
• 4:39
  ICE
• 4:40
  agents,
• 4:40
  whether
• 4:41
  it's
• 4:41
  here
• 4:41
  in
• 4:41
  California,
• 4:42
  whether
• 4:42
  it's
• 4:42
  out
• 4:43
  in
• 4:43
  Minnesota
• 4:44
  or
• 4:44
  around
• 4:44
  the
• 4:45
  country
• 4:45
  where
• 4:46
  ICE
• 4:46
  agents
• 4:46
  have
• 4:47
  accused
• 4:47
  bystanders
• 4:48
  who
• 4:49
  they
• 4:49
  have
• 4:49
  engaged
• 4:50
  in
• 4:50
  with
• 4:51
  interfering.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:52
  it
• 4:52
  may
• 4:52
  seem
• 4:53
  as
• 4:53
  though
• 4:53
  interference
• 4:54
  is
• 4:55
  subjective,
• 4:55
  but
• 4:56
  it
• 4:56
  really
• 4:56
  isn't.
• 4:57
  Interference
• 4:58
  is
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  legally
• 4:59
  objective
• 5:01
  standard,
• 5:01
  right?
• 5:02
  You
• 5:02
  have
• 5:02
  to
• 5:03
  be
• 5:03
  impeding
• 5:05
  a
• 5:05
  federal
• 5:06
  investigation,
• 5:07
  right?
• 5:07
  So
• 5:07
  if
• 5:08
  you
• 5:08
  are
• 5:09
  minding
• 5:09
  your
• 5:09
  own
• 5:10
  business
• 5:10
  and
• 5:10
  then
• 5:11
  all
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  a
• 5:11
  sudden
• 5:11
  an
• 5:11
  ICE
• 5:12
  raid
• 5:12
  happens
• 5:12
  to
• 5:13
  form
• 5:13
  around
• 5:14
  you,
• 5:15
  you
• 5:15
  have
• 5:15
  not
• 5:16
  taken
• 5:16
  overt
• 5:17
  steps
• 5:17
  or
• 5:18
  overt
• 5:18
  actions
• 5:19
  in
• 5:20
  order
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  impede
• 5:21
  that
• 5:21
  investigation.
• 5:22
  Therefore,
• 5:22
  you
• 5:23
  could
• 5:23
  never
• 5:23
  be
• 5:24
  considered
• 5:24
  to
• 5:25
  be
• 5:25
  interfering.
• 5:26
  But
• 5:27
  if
• 5:27
  you
• 5:28
  see
• 5:29
  a
• 5:29
  ICE
• 5:30
  raid
• 5:30
  happening
• 5:31
  and
• 5:31
  you
• 5:31
  decide
• 5:32
  that
• 5:32
  you're
• 5:32
  going
• 5:32
  to
• 5:33
  insert
• 5:33
  yourself
• 5:34
  in
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  middle
• 5:35
  of
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  raid,
• 5:36
  then
• 5:36
  it's
• 5:37
  possible,
• 5:38
  possible
• 5:38
  that
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  be.
• 5:39
  Could
• 5:39
  be
• 5:39
  considered
• 5:40
  interfering
• 5:41
  with
• 5:42
  an
• 5:42
  investigation.
• 5:43
  So
• 5:43
  the
• 5:43
  safest
• 5:44
  thing
• 5:44
  that
• 5:44
  anyone
• 5:45
  can
• 5:45
  do
• 5:46
  if
• 5:46
  they
• 5:46
  find
• 5:46
  themselves
• 5:47
  in
• 5:47
  an
• 5:47
  ICE
• 5:47
  raid
• 5:48
  or
• 5:48
  if
• 5:48
  they
• 5:48
  see
• 5:48
  an
• 5:48
  ICE
• 5:49
  raid
• 5:49
  happening,
• 5:50
  is
• 5:50
  they
• 5:50
  can
• 5:50
  get
• 5:50
  out
• 5:51
  their
• 5:51
  phones,
• 5:52
  they
• 5:52
  can
• 5:52
  record,
• 5:53
  they
• 5:53
  can,
• 5:54
  even
• 5:55
  if
• 5:55
  they
• 5:55
  want,
• 5:56
  which
• 5:56
  is
• 5:57
  again,
• 5:57
  protected
• 5:58
  under
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  First
• 5:58
  Amendment.
• 5:59
  They
• 5:59
  can
• 5:59
  even
• 6:01
  hoot
• 6:01
  and
• 6:01
  holler
• 6:02
  in
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  neighborhood
• 6:03
  to
• 6:03
  inform
• 6:04
  everyone
• 6:04
  in
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  neighborhood
• 6:05
  what
• 6:05
  is
• 6:06
  going
• 6:06
  on.
• 6:06
  That
• 6:07
  is
• 6:07
  constitutionally
• 6:08
  protected
• 6:09
  First
• 6:10
  Amendment
• 6:10
  activity.
• 6:11
  What
• 6:11
  you
• 6:12
  cannot
• 6:12
  do
• 6:13
  is
• 6:13
  try
• 6:13
  and
• 6:14
  stop
• 6:15
  an
• 6:15
  ICE
• 6:15
  agent
• 6:16
  from
• 6:16
  perhaps
• 6:17
  detaining
• 6:17
  someone.
• 6:18
  Or
• 6:18
  what
• 6:18
  you
• 6:19
  cannot
• 6:19
  do
• 6:19
  is
• 6:19
  try
• 6:19
  and
• 6:20
  stop
• 6:21
  an
• 6:21
  ICE
• 6:21
  agent
• 6:22
  from
• 6:22
  conducting
• 6:23
  their
• 6:23
  investigation
• 6:24
  by
• 6:25
  blocking
• 6:26
  them
• 6:26
  in
• 6:26
  any
• 6:26
  way
• 6:27
  or
• 6:27
  blocking
• 6:27
  a
• 6:27
  vehicle
• 6:28
  from
• 6:28
  passing
• 6:29
  or
• 6:29
  trying
• 6:30
  to
• 6:30
  do
• 6:30
  something
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  would
• 6:31
  then
• 6:32
  impede
• 6:33
  their
• 6:34
  ultimate
• 6:34
  goal,
• 6:34
  which
• 6:35
  is
• 6:35
  whatever
• 6:35
  they've
• 6:36
  set
• 6:36
  out
• 6:36
  to
• 6:36
  do.
• 6:37
  But
• 6:38
  constitutionally
• 6:38
  protected
• 6:39
  activities,
• 6:39
  such
• 6:40
  as
• 6:40
  First
• 6:40
  Amendment
• 6:41
  activities,
• 6:41
  we've
• 6:41
  seen
• 6:42
  a
• 6:42
  lot
• 6:42
  of
• 6:42
  whistles
• 6:43
  out
• 6:44
  in
• 6:44
  the
• 6:45
  state
• 6:45
  of
• 6:45
  Minnesota.
• 6:47
  That's
• 6:47
  constitutionally
• 6:48
  protected
• 6:48
  activity.
• 6:49
  We've
• 6:49
  seen
• 6:49
  a
• 6:49
  lot
• 6:49
  of
• 6:49
  cell
• 6:50
  phone
• 6:50
  recordings
• 6:51
  that
• 6:51
  have
• 6:51
  been
• 6:52
  posted
• 6:52
  all
• 6:52
  over
• 6:52
  social
• 6:53
  media.
• 6:53
  I've
• 6:54
  reacted
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  this
• 6:55
  a
• 6:55
  lot
• 6:55
  on
• 6:55
  my
• 6:56
  social
• 6:56
  media
• 6:56
  pages.
• 6:57
  That's
• 6:57
  all
• 6:58
  fine.
• 6:58
  But
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  moment
• 6:59
  that
• 6:59
  you
• 6:59
  actually
• 6:59
  are
• 7:00
  in
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  way
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  an
• 7:01
  investigation,
• 7:02
  objectively
• 7:03
  speaking,
• 7:04
  that's
• 7:04
  when
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  can
• 7:05
  get
• 7:05
  into
• 7:05
  trouble.
• 7:07
  Now,
• 7:07
  one
• 7:07
  of
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  things
• 7:08
  we've
• 7:08
  seen
• 7:08
  is
• 7:08
  people
• 7:09
  following
• 7:10
  ICE
• 7:10
  agents,
• 7:11
  and
• 7:12
  I'm
• 7:13
  not
• 7:13
  clear
• 7:13
  on
• 7:14
  whether
• 7:14
  that's
• 7:15
  impeding
• 7:15
  or
• 7:16
  is
• 7:16
  that
• 7:16
  legal,
• 7:17
  because,
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  mean,
• 7:17
  people
• 7:18
  will
• 7:18
  get
• 7:18
  in
• 7:18
  their
• 7:18
  cars
• 7:19
  and
• 7:19
  see
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  ICE
• 7:20
  agents
• 7:21
  and
• 7:21
  just
• 7:21
  follow
• 7:22
  them.
• 7:22
  And
• 7:22
  that's
• 7:23
  been
• 7:23
  something
• 7:23
  that
• 7:24
  they've
• 7:24
  gotten
• 7:24
  in
• 7:24
  trouble
• 7:24
  for.
• 7:26
  Yeah.
• 7:26
  And
• 7:26
  it's
• 7:26
  been
• 7:27
  something
• 7:27
  that
• 7:27
  ICE
• 7:27
  agents
• 7:28
  have
• 7:28
  threatened
• 7:29
  to
• 7:30
  arrest
• 7:30
  drivers
• 7:31
  for,
• 7:31
  and
• 7:31
  it
• 7:32
  is
• 7:32
  something
• 7:32
  that
• 7:32
  ICE
• 7:33
  agents
• 7:33
  actually
• 7:34
  have
• 7:34
  arrested
• 7:35
  drivers
• 7:36
  for.
• 7:36
  It's
• 7:37
  important
• 7:37
  to
• 7:37
  know
• 7:38
  your
• 7:38
  rights
• 7:39
  and
• 7:39
  to
• 7:39
  understand
• 7:40
  legally
• 7:40
  what
• 7:41
  you're
• 7:41
  allowed
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  do
• 7:41
  and
• 7:42
  legally
• 7:42
  what
• 7:42
  you're
• 7:42
  not.
• 7:43
  So
• 7:43
  let's
• 7:43
  go
• 7:43
  ahead
• 7:43
  and
• 7:43
  talk
• 7:43
  about
• 7:44
  it.
• 7:44
  Hunter,
• 7:44
  that's
• 7:44
  a
• 7:44
  great
• 7:45
  question.
• 7:45
  When
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  are
• 7:46
  out
• 7:47
  in
• 7:47
  public,
• 7:48
  there
• 7:48
  is
• 7:49
  zero
• 7:50
  expectation
• 7:51
  of
• 7:51
  privacy.
• 7:52
  What
• 7:52
  does
• 7:52
  that
• 7:53
  mean?
• 7:53
  It
• 7:53
  means
• 7:54
  that
• 7:54
  you
• 7:55
  have
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  legal
• 7:56
  ability
• 7:56
  on
• 7:56
  public
• 7:57
  roads
• 7:57
  and
• 7:57
  public
• 7:58
  streets
• 7:58
  to
• 7:59
  follow
• 7:59
  an
• 8:00
  ICE
• 8:00
  agent
• 8:00
  as
• 8:01
  long
• 8:01
  as
• 8:01
  they
• 8:01
  are
• 8:02
  driving
• 8:02
  on
• 8:02
  public
• 8:03
  roads.
• 8:03
  Just
• 8:04
  as
• 8:04
  you
• 8:04
  would
• 8:04
  have
• 8:05
  the
• 8:05
  exact
• 8:06
  same
• 8:06
  legal
• 8:07
  capability
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  follow
• 8:09
  anyone
• 8:10
  on
• 8:10
  public
• 8:11
  roads.
• 8:11
  Because
• 8:12
  there
• 8:12
  is
• 8:13
  no
• 8:13
  expectation
• 8:14
  of
• 8:14
  privacy
• 8:15
  in
• 8:16
  public.
• 8:16
  It
• 8:17
  is
• 8:17
  actually
• 8:17
  the
• 8:18
  basis
• 8:18
  of
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  constitutionality
• 8:20
  of
• 8:21
  street
• 8:21
  cameras.
• 8:22
  Right.
• 8:22
  It's
• 8:22
  also
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  basis
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  constitutionality
• 8:26
  of
• 8:27
  drone
• 8:27
  following
• 8:28
  on
• 8:28
  public
• 8:29
  roads.
• 8:29
  As
• 8:30
  long
• 8:30
  as
• 8:30
  you
• 8:30
  are
• 8:30
  out
• 8:31
  in
• 8:31
  public,
• 8:32
  you
• 8:32
  have
• 8:32
  the
• 8:32
  ability
• 8:32
  to
• 8:33
  follow
• 8:33
  any
• 8:33
  car
• 8:34
  that
• 8:34
  you
• 8:34
  want
• 8:35
  to,
• 8:35
  including
• 8:36
  if
• 8:36
  it's
• 8:36
  an
• 8:37
  ICE
• 8:37
  agent.
• 8:37
  The
• 8:38
  exact
• 8:38
  opposite
• 8:39
  is
• 8:40
  also
• 8:40
  true.
• 8:41
  Law
• 8:41
  enforcement,
• 8:42
  including
• 8:43
  ICE
• 8:43
  agents,
• 8:44
  have
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  legal
• 8:45
  right
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  follow
• 8:46
  any
• 8:47
  citizen
• 8:48
  on
• 8:48
  public
• 8:48
  roads
• 8:49
  without
• 8:50
  a
• 8:51
  warrant.
• 8:52
  Because
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  exact
• 8:53
  same
• 8:53
  thing
• 8:54
  that's
• 8:54
  good
• 8:54
  for
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  goose
• 8:55
  is
• 8:55
  good
• 8:55
  for
• 8:55
  the
• 8:56
  gander.
• 8:56
  I'm
• 8:56
  not
• 8:56
  even
• 8:56
  sure
• 8:57
  if
• 8:57
  that's
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  correct
• 8:57
  saying,
• 8:58
  but
• 8:59
  it
• 8:59
  is.
• 8:59
  It
• 8:59
  works
• 9:00
  in
• 9:01
  a
• 9:01
  reciprocal
• 9:02
  manner.
• 9:03
  Just
• 9:03
  as
• 9:04
  you
• 9:04
  can
• 9:04
  follow
• 9:04
  an
• 9:04
  ICE
• 9:05
  agent
• 9:05
  on
• 9:05
  public
• 9:06
  roads,
• 9:06
  an
• 9:07
  ICE
• 9:07
  agent
• 9:07
  can
• 9:07
  certainly
• 9:08
  follow
• 9:08
  you
• 9:09
  on
• 9:09
  public
• 9:09
  roads.
• 9:10
  Law
• 9:10
  enforcement,
• 9:11
  such
• 9:11
  as
• 9:11
  police
• 9:12
  officers
• 9:12
  California
• 9:13
  Highway
• 9:13
  Patrol,
• 9:14
  as
• 9:14
  well
• 9:14
  as
• 9:15
  regular
• 9:16
  Metro
• 9:16
  patrol
• 9:17
  officers
• 9:17
  can
• 9:18
  also
• 9:18
  follow
• 9:18
  you
• 9:19
  on
• 9:19
  public
• 9:20
  streets.
• 9:20
  Even
• 9:21
  if
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  are
• 9:21
  not
• 9:21
  committing
• 9:22
  a
• 9:23
  traffic
• 9:23
  violation,
• 9:24
  they
• 9:25
  can
• 9:25
  follow
• 9:25
  you
• 9:25
  for
• 9:25
  as
• 9:26
  long
• 9:26
  as
• 9:26
  you
• 9:26
  want.
• 9:27
  And
• 9:27
  if
• 9:27
  they
• 9:28
  witness
• 9:29
  you
• 9:29
  commit
• 9:30
  a
• 9:30
  traffic
• 9:31
  violation
• 9:32
  while
• 9:32
  they
• 9:33
  are
• 9:33
  following
• 9:33
  you,
• 9:34
  legally
• 9:34
  they
• 9:35
  can
• 9:35
  pull
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  over
• 9:36
  and
• 9:37
  that
• 9:37
  traffic
• 9:37
  stop
• 9:38
  is
• 9:38
  completely
• 9:39
  valid.
• 9:39
  And
• 9:40
  that
• 9:40
  is
• 9:40
  because
• 9:40
  the
• 9:41
  Supreme
• 9:41
  Court
• 9:42
  of
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  United
• 9:42
  States
• 9:43
  of
• 9:43
  America
• 9:43
  has
• 9:44
  ruled
• 9:44
  that
• 9:44
  there
• 9:45
  is
• 9:45
  no
• 9:46
  expectation
• 9:47
  of
• 9:47
  privacy
• 9:48
  on
• 9:48
  public
• 9:48
  roads.
• 9:50
  Wow,
• 9:51
  that,
• 9:51
  that's
• 9:51
  interesting.
• 9:52
  I,
• 9:52
  you
• 9:53
  know,
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  expectation
• 9:54
  of
• 9:54
  privacy
• 9:54
  is,
• 9:55
  is
• 9:55
  something
• 9:56
  that,
• 9:56
  you
• 9:56
  know,
• 9:56
  I
• 9:57
  guess
• 9:57
  is,
• 9:57
  is
• 9:58
  sort
• 9:58
  of
• 9:58
  diluting
• 9:58
  a
• 9:59
  little
• 9:59
  bit.
• 10:00
  But,
• 10:00
  but,
• 10:00
  you
• 10:00
  know,
• 10:01
  I,
• 10:01
  I,
• 10:01
  I
• 10:01
  have
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  ask
• 10:02
  you,
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  mean,
• 10:04
  we
• 10:05
  have
• 10:05
  as
• 10:05
  human
• 10:05
  beings
• 10:07
  sort
• 10:07
  of
• 10:07
  a,
• 10:08
  a
• 10:08
  sense
• 10:09
  of
• 10:09
  defending
• 10:09
  ourselves.
• 10:10
  It
• 10:10
  just
• 10:11
  sort
• 10:11
  of
• 10:11
  happens,
• 10:12
  right?
• 10:12
  You
• 10:12
  know,
• 10:12
  somebody
• 10:12
  gets
• 10:13
  in
• 10:13
  your
• 10:13
  face
• 10:13
  and
• 10:13
  sort
• 10:13
  of
• 10:13
  just
• 10:14
  like,
• 10:14
  you
• 10:14
  know,
• 10:14
  you
• 10:14
  don't
• 10:14
  disengage,
• 10:15
  sometimes
• 10:15
  you
• 10:16
  engage.
• 10:17
  The
• 10:17
  point
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  think
• 10:18
  you're
• 10:18
  trying
• 10:19
  to
• 10:19
  make
• 10:19
  is
• 10:19
  in
• 10:20
  all
• 10:20
  cases
• 10:20
  disengage.
• 10:23
  100%.
• 10:24
  I
• 10:24
  mean,
• 10:24
  it's
• 10:25
  not,
• 10:25
  it's
• 10:26
  really
• 10:26
  not
• 10:27
  worth
• 10:27
  it.
• 10:27
  We've
• 10:28
  seen
• 10:28
  the
• 10:29
  tragedies
• 10:30
  that
• 10:30
  have
• 10:30
  occurred
• 10:31
  in
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  state
• 10:32
  of
• 10:32
  Minnesota
• 10:33
  with
• 10:33
  the
• 10:34
  two
• 10:34
  American
• 10:34
  citizens
• 10:35
  that
• 10:35
  were
• 10:35
  shot
• 10:36
  and
• 10:37
  killed
• 10:38
  by
• 10:38
  ICE
• 10:39
  officers.
• 10:41
  We've
• 10:41
  seen
• 10:41
  the
• 10:42
  ramifications
• 10:42
  and
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  reverberations
• 10:44
  across
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  country
• 10:46
  that
• 10:47
  have
• 10:47
  emanated
• 10:48
  from
• 10:49
  those
• 10:49
  tragic
• 10:50
  deaths.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:51
  I'm
• 10:52
  absolutely
• 10:52
  certain
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  those
• 10:53
  family
• 10:54
  members
• 10:55
  would
• 10:56
  tell
• 10:56
  anyone
• 10:58
  that
• 10:58
  they
• 10:59
  would
• 10:59
  much
• 10:59
  rather
• 11:00
  have
• 11:01
  their
• 11:01
  loved
• 11:02
  ones
• 11:02
  with
• 11:02
  them
• 11:03
  than
• 11:04
  legal
• 11:05
  scholars
• 11:06
  across
• 11:06
  the
• 11:07
  country
• 11:08
  debating
• 11:08
  whether
• 11:09
  or
• 11:09
  not
• 11:09
  the
• 11:10
  shooting
• 11:10
  was
• 11:11
  justified
• 11:11
  by
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  ICE
• 11:12
  agent.
• 11:13
  It's
• 11:14
  simply
• 11:14
  not
• 11:14
  worth
• 11:14
  it
• 11:14
  when
• 11:15
  it
• 11:15
  comes
• 11:15
  to
• 11:16
  your
• 11:16
  health
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  safety.
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  tell
• 11:17
  my
• 11:17
  clients
• 11:18
  all
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  time,
• 11:19
  comply
• 11:19
  first,
• 11:20
  sue
• 11:21
  later.
• 11:22
  Because
• 11:22
  you
• 11:22
  can't
• 11:23
  sue
• 11:23
  if
• 11:23
  you're
• 11:24
  dead.
• 11:24
  I
• 11:24
  mean,
• 11:24
  your
• 11:24
  estate
• 11:25
  can,
• 11:25
  your
• 11:25
  family
• 11:26
  can,
• 11:26
  but
• 11:26
  you
• 11:27
  can't.
• 11:28
  And
• 11:28
  there
• 11:28
  are
• 11:28
  certain
• 11:29
  things
• 11:29
  that
• 11:29
  are
• 11:29
  just
• 11:30
  not
• 11:30
  worth
• 11:31
  risking
• 11:32
  your
• 11:32
  life
• 11:33
  over,
• 11:33
  especially
• 11:34
  when
• 11:34
  it
• 11:34
  comes
• 11:35
  to
• 11:36
  law
• 11:36
  enforcement.
• 11:37
  That
• 11:38
  is
• 11:39
  can
• 11:39
  be
• 11:40
  argued
• 11:40
  is
• 11:40
  trigger
• 11:41
  happy.
• 11:41
  Now,
• 11:41
  I'm
• 11:42
  not
• 11:42
  necessarily
• 11:43
  saying
• 11:43
  that
• 11:43
  ICE
• 11:43
  agents
• 11:44
  themselves
• 11:44
  are
• 11:45
  trigger
• 11:45
  happy,
• 11:45
  but
• 11:46
  when
• 11:46
  we
• 11:46
  look
• 11:47
  at
• 11:47
  the
• 11:47
  Department
• 11:47
  of
• 11:47
  Homeland
• 11:48
  Security
• 11:49
  and
• 11:49
  we
• 11:49
  look
• 11:50
  at
• 11:50
  the
• 11:51
  funding
• 11:51
  that
• 11:52
  came
• 11:52
  in
• 11:53
  last
• 11:53
  year
• 11:54
  into
• 11:54
  DHS
• 11:55
  that
• 11:55
  resulted
• 11:56
  in
• 11:56
  hiring
• 11:57
  of
• 11:58
  thousands
• 11:59
  of
• 11:59
  brand
• 11:59
  new
• 12:01
  ICE
• 12:01
  agents,
• 12:02
  it
• 12:02
  is
• 12:02
  a
• 12:02
  fact
• 12:03
  that
• 12:03
  if
• 12:03
  you
• 12:03
  have
• 12:04
  been
• 12:04
  working
• 12:05
  for
• 12:05
  the
• 12:05
  Department
• 12:05
  for,
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  Homeland
• 12:06
  Security
• 12:07
  for
• 12:07
  less
• 12:07
  than
• 12:07
  a
• 12:07
  year,
• 12:08
  you
• 12:08
  are
• 12:08
  not
• 12:09
  going
• 12:09
  to
• 12:09
  have
• 12:09
  the
• 12:10
  same
• 12:10
  amount
• 12:10
  of
• 12:11
  experience
• 12:12
  that
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  DHS
• 12:13
  employee
• 12:14
  that
• 12:14
  has
• 12:14
  been
• 12:14
  working
• 12:14
  there
• 12:15
  for
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  past
• 12:15
  10
• 12:16
  years.
• 12:16
  And
• 12:16
  so
• 12:17
  that
• 12:17
  is
• 12:17
  not
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  accuse
• 12:18
  someone
• 12:19
  new
• 12:19
  of
• 12:20
  being
• 12:21
  trigger
• 12:21
  happy,
• 12:21
  but
• 12:23
  expertise
• 12:24
  is
• 12:24
  absolutely
• 12:25
  important.
• 12:26
  And
• 12:27
  if
• 12:27
  you
• 12:27
  don't
• 12:27
  have
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  same
• 12:28
  expertise
• 12:30
  that
• 12:31
  experience
• 12:32
  agents
• 12:32
  have,
• 12:33
  then
• 12:34
  why
• 12:34
  risk
• 12:35
  putting
• 12:35
  yourself
• 12:36
  in
• 12:36
  harm's
• 12:37
  way,
• 12:37
  even
• 12:37
  if
• 12:38
  you're
• 12:38
  technically
• 12:39
  in
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  right?
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  love
• 12:40
  how
• 12:41
  you
• 12:41
  measure
• 12:41
  your
• 12:41
  words.
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  can
• 12:44
  see
• 12:44
  you,
• 12:44
  I
• 12:45
  can
• 12:45
  see
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  lawyering
• 12:46
  here.
• 12:47
  I
• 12:48
  want
• 12:48
  to
• 12:48
  talk
• 12:48
  about
• 12:49
  people
• 12:50
  who
• 12:50
  may
• 12:50
  not
• 12:50
  have
• 12:50
  the
• 12:51
  option.
• 12:51
  What
• 12:52
  do
• 12:52
  you
• 12:52
  do
• 12:52
  if
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  find
• 12:53
  yourself
• 12:53
  in
• 12:54
  a
• 12:54
  situation
• 12:54
  where
• 12:54
  there's
• 12:55
  that
• 12:55
  bang,
• 12:55
  bang,
• 12:55
  bang,
• 12:55
  bang
• 12:56
  on
• 12:56
  the
• 12:56
  door?
• 12:56
  Whether
• 12:56
  it's
• 12:57
  your
• 12:57
  home,
• 12:58
  your
• 12:58
  office,
• 12:59
  your
• 12:59
  school,
• 13:00
  your
• 13:00
  church,
• 13:01
  whatever.
• 13:02
  What
• 13:02
  are
• 13:02
  your
• 13:02
  rights
• 13:03
  as
• 13:04
  a
• 13:04
  person
• 13:05
  who's
• 13:05
  being
• 13:06
  sought,
• 13:06
  as
• 13:06
  a
• 13:07
  bystander,
• 13:08
  as
• 13:09
  someone
• 13:10
  who
• 13:10
  is
• 13:10
  just
• 13:11
  experiencing
• 13:11
  this?
• 13:12
  What
• 13:12
  do
• 13:12
  you
• 13:13
  do?
• 13:14
  Excellent
• 13:15
  question.
• 13:15
  And
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  most
• 13:15
  important
• 13:16
  thing
• 13:16
  to
• 13:16
  remember
• 13:16
  is
• 13:17
  that
• 13:17
  if
• 13:17
  there's
• 13:17
  a
• 13:18
  bang,
• 13:18
  bang,
• 13:18
  bang
• 13:18
  on
• 13:19
  your
• 13:19
  door,
• 13:20
  number
• 13:20
  one,
• 13:20
  you're
• 13:20
  most
• 13:21
  likely
• 13:21
  not
• 13:21
  even
• 13:21
  going
• 13:21
  to
• 13:22
  know
• 13:22
  who
• 13:22
  it
• 13:22
  is.
• 13:22
  Right.
• 13:22
  So
• 13:23
  it
• 13:23
  is
• 13:23
  important
• 13:24
  that
• 13:24
  the
• 13:25
  officer
• 13:26
  or
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  agent
• 13:27
  identifies
• 13:28
  themselves.
• 13:29
  Right.
• 13:30
  There
• 13:30
  are
• 13:31
  such
• 13:31
  things
• 13:31
  called
• 13:32
  a
• 13:32
  no
• 13:32
  knock
• 13:33
  warrant.
• 13:34
  And
• 13:34
  for
• 13:34
  any
• 13:35
  type
• 13:35
  of
• 13:35
  no
• 13:35
  knock
• 13:36
  warrants,
• 13:37
  police
• 13:37
  officers
• 13:38
  do
• 13:38
  not
• 13:38
  actually
• 13:39
  have
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  identify
• 13:40
  themselves.
• 13:40
  But
• 13:41
  it's
• 13:42
  usually
• 13:43
  results
• 13:44
  in
• 13:44
  immediate
• 13:46
  entry
• 13:46
  upon
• 13:47
  your
• 13:47
  home,
• 13:47
  right?
• 13:48
  It's
• 13:48
  going
• 13:48
  to
• 13:48
  be
• 13:48
  a
• 13:48
  bang,
• 13:48
  bang,
• 13:49
  bang,
• 13:49
  and
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  door
• 13:49
  is
• 13:50
  going
• 13:50
  to
• 13:50
  be
• 13:50
  busted
• 13:50
  down.
• 13:51
  If
• 13:51
  there's
• 13:51
  a
• 13:51
  situation
• 13:52
  where
• 13:52
  someone
• 13:53
  is
• 13:53
  at
• 13:53
  your
• 13:54
  door
• 13:54
  identifying
• 13:55
  themselves
• 13:55
  as
• 13:55
  law
• 13:56
  enforcement,
• 13:56
  you
• 13:57
  have
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  right
• 13:58
  as
• 13:58
  the
• 13:59
  occupant
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  that
• 14:00
  home
• 14:00
  to
• 14:00
  ask
• 14:01
  who
• 14:01
  they
• 14:01
  are,
• 14:02
  who
• 14:03
  they
• 14:03
  are
• 14:03
  looking
• 14:04
  for,
• 14:04
  and
• 14:05
  whether
• 14:05
  or
• 14:05
  not
• 14:05
  they
• 14:06
  have
• 14:06
  a
• 14:06
  warrant.
• 14:07
  And
• 14:08
  if
• 14:08
  this
• 14:08
  is
• 14:09
  an
• 14:09
  ICE
• 14:10
  agent,
• 14:11
  there's
• 14:11
  a
• 14:12
  difference
• 14:12
  between
• 14:12
  a
• 14:14
  judicial
• 14:14
  warrant
• 14:15
  and
• 14:16
  an
• 14:16
  administrative
• 14:17
  warrant.
• 14:18
  You
• 14:18
  see,
• 14:18
  an
• 14:19
  administrative
• 14:19
  warrant
• 14:20
  is
• 14:21
  from
• 14:21
  the
• 14:21
  Department
• 14:22
  of
• 14:22
  Homeland
• 14:23
  Security
• 14:23
  themselves.
• 14:24
  So
• 14:24
  that
• 14:25
  means
• 14:25
  someone
• 14:25
  at
• 14:26
  DHS
• 14:27
  has
• 14:27
  reviewed
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  file
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  concluded
• 14:30
  based
• 14:31
  upon
• 14:31
  that
• 14:32
  review,
• 14:32
  that
• 14:33
  there
• 14:33
  is
• 14:34
  a
• 14:34
  deportation
• 14:35
  order
• 14:36
  that
• 14:36
  must
• 14:36
  go
• 14:36
  out
• 14:37
  for
• 14:37
  an
• 14:37
  individual
• 14:38
  and
• 14:38
  that
• 14:39
  person
• 14:39
  signs
• 14:39
  an
• 14:40
  administrative
• 14:40
  warrant,
• 14:41
  right?
• 14:42
  But
• 14:43
  in
• 14:43
  order
• 14:43
  for
• 14:44
  someone
• 14:45
  to
• 14:45
  enter
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  home
• 14:47
  without
• 14:47
  authorization,
• 14:48
  right?
• 14:49
  That
• 14:49
  is
• 14:49
  to
• 14:49
  enter
• 14:50
  a
• 14:50
  home,
• 14:50
  in
• 14:50
  order
• 14:50
  for
• 14:51
  that
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  not
• 14:51
  violate
• 14:52
  your
• 14:53
  constitutionally
• 14:53
  protected
• 14:54
  rights
• 14:54
  against
• 14:56
  unreasonable
• 14:57
  searches
• 14:57
  and
• 14:57
  seizures,
• 14:58
  it
• 14:58
  has
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  be
• 14:59
  signed
• 15:00
  by
• 15:00
  a
• 15:00
  judge.
• 15:02
  And
• 15:02
  that
• 15:02
  is
• 15:02
  where
• 15:02
  a
• 15:03
  judicial
• 15:04
  warrant
• 15:05
  comes
• 15:05
  through.
• 15:06
  So
• 15:07
  you
• 15:07
  have
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  right
• 15:08
  as
• 15:08
  an
• 15:09
  individual
• 15:09
  in
• 15:09
  that
• 15:10
  home
• 15:10
  to
• 15:11
  ask
• 15:11
  to
• 15:12
  see
• 15:13
  the
• 15:13
  warrant.
• 15:14
  If
• 15:14
  it
• 15:14
  is
• 15:14
  an
• 15:15
  administrative
• 15:15
  warrant,
• 15:16
  you
• 15:16
  do
• 15:17
  not
• 15:17
  have
• 15:17
  to
• 15:18
  let
• 15:18
  law
• 15:18
  enforcement
• 15:19
  into
• 15:19
  your
• 15:20
  home.
• 15:21
  Now,
• 15:21
  that
• 15:21
  doesn't
• 15:21
  mean
• 15:21
  that
• 15:21
  an
• 15:22
  administrative
• 15:22
  warrant
• 15:23
  is
• 15:23
  not
• 15:23
  enforceable.
• 15:24
  Because
• 15:24
  if
• 15:24
  you
• 15:24
  are
• 15:25
  out
• 15:25
  in
• 15:25
  public,
• 15:26
  let's
• 15:26
  say
• 15:26
  you're
• 15:27
  at
• 15:27
  a
• 15:27
  grocery
• 15:28
  store
• 15:28
  and
• 15:29
  there's
• 15:29
  an
• 15:29
  administrative
• 15:30
  warrant
• 15:31
  for
• 15:31
  deportation,
• 15:32
  and
• 15:33
  an
• 15:33
  ICE
• 15:33
  agent,
• 15:34
  as
• 15:34
  we
• 15:34
  have
• 15:34
  seen
• 15:35
  in
• 15:35
  videos
• 15:36
  online,
• 15:36
  enters
• 15:37
  a
• 15:37
  grocery
• 15:37
  store
• 15:38
  in
• 15:39
  order
• 15:39
  to
• 15:39
  collect
• 15:40
  an
• 15:40
  individual,
• 15:40
  that
• 15:41
  is
• 15:41
  legal
• 15:42
  under
• 15:42
  an
• 15:42
  administrative
• 15:43
  warrant
• 15:44
  because
• 15:44
  you
• 15:44
  are
• 15:44
  now
• 15:45
  out
• 15:45
  in
• 15:45
  public.
• 15:47
  But
• 15:47
  if
• 15:47
  you
• 15:47
  are
• 15:47
  in
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  privacy
• 15:48
  of
• 15:49
  your
• 15:49
  own
• 15:50
  home.
• 15:50
  The
• 15:51
  only
• 15:51
  way
• 15:51
  that
• 15:51
  law
• 15:51
  enforcement
• 15:52
  can
• 15:52
  enter
• 15:52
  that
• 15:53
  home
• 15:53
  in
• 15:53
  order
• 15:54
  to
• 15:54
  seize
• 15:55
  a
• 15:55
  suspect
• 15:56
  is
• 15:56
  by
• 15:56
  a
• 15:56
  signed
• 15:57
  judicial
• 15:58
  warrant.
• 15:59
  And
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  can
• 15:59
  verify
• 16:00
  that
• 16:00
  by
• 16:00
  asking
• 16:01
  for
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  warrant
• 16:02
  when
• 16:02
  an
• 16:03
  agent
• 16:03
  is
• 16:03
  at
• 16:04
  your
• 16:04
  front
• 16:04
  door.
• 16:05
  Can
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  clarify
• 16:06
  one
• 16:06
  thing?
• 16:07
  So
• 16:08
  if,
• 16:08
  if
• 16:08
  I'm
• 16:08
  at
• 16:08
  the
• 16:09
  supermarket
• 16:09
  shopping,
• 16:10
  I'm
• 16:10
  in
• 16:10
  public.
• 16:11
  What
• 16:11
  if
• 16:11
  I'm
• 16:12
  working
• 16:12
  at
• 16:12
  my
• 16:13
  job
• 16:13
  at
• 16:14
  say,
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  gas
• 16:15
  station?
• 16:16
  Is,
• 16:16
  am
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  still
• 16:17
  in
• 16:17
  public?
• 16:17
  Am
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  am
• 16:18
  at
• 16:19
  my
• 16:19
  job?
• 16:19
  It's
• 16:19
  like,
• 16:20
  what,
• 16:20
  what
• 16:20
  are
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  details?
• 16:21
  Am
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  in
• 16:21
  the
• 16:22
  garage?
• 16:22
  Am
• 16:22
  I
• 16:22
  outside
• 16:23
  of
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  garage?
• 16:23
  What
• 16:24
  am
• 16:24
  I?
• 16:24
  Right.
• 16:25
  Yeah,
• 16:25
  this
• 16:26
  is,
• 16:26
  this
• 16:26
  is
• 16:26
  a
• 16:26
  really
• 16:26
  great
• 16:27
  question,
• 16:27
  and
• 16:28
  it
• 16:28
  actually
• 16:28
  reminds
• 16:29
  me
• 16:29
  of
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  very
• 16:29
  famous
• 16:30
  case
• 16:30
  that
• 16:31
  actually
• 16:31
  happened
• 16:32
  in
• 16:32
  Minnesota
• 16:33
  at
• 16:33
  a
• 16:33
  McDonald's
• 16:34
  where
• 16:35
  there
• 16:35
  was
• 16:35
  a
• 16:35
  worker
• 16:36
  at
• 16:37
  a
• 16:37
  McDonald's
• 16:38
  and
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  worker
• 16:40
  goes
• 16:41
  into
• 16:41
  work
• 16:41
  as
• 16:42
  they
• 16:42
  regularly
• 16:42
  do.
• 16:43
  And
• 16:43
  apparently
• 16:44
  there
• 16:44
  was
• 16:44
  an
• 16:44
  administrative
• 16:45
  warrant
• 16:46
  to
• 16:46
  deport
• 16:47
  this
• 16:47
  worker.
• 16:48
  So
• 16:48
  ICE
• 16:49
  agents
• 16:49
  showed
• 16:50
  up
• 16:50
  to
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  McDonald's
• 16:52
  in
• 16:52
  order
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  detain
• 16:54
  the
• 16:54
  worker.
• 16:55
  Well,
• 16:56
  when
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  ICE
• 16:56
  agents
• 16:57
  got
• 16:57
  to
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  McDonald's,
• 16:59
  the
• 17:01
  security,
• 17:01
  the
• 17:02
  head
• 17:02
  of
• 17:02
  the
• 17:03
  security
• 17:03
  that
• 17:03
  was
• 17:04
  in
• 17:04
  that
• 17:05
  McDonald's
• 17:05
  refused
• 17:06
  to
• 17:06
  allow
• 17:07
  the
• 17:07
  ICE
• 17:07
  agent's
• 17:08
  entry.
• 17:09
  That
• 17:09
  security
• 17:10
  guard
• 17:10
  spoke
• 17:10
  to
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  franchise
• 17:12
  owner
• 17:13
  of
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  McDonald's.
• 17:14
  The
• 17:15
  franchise
• 17:15
  owner
• 17:16
  told
• 17:17
  ICE
• 17:17
  that
• 17:18
  because
• 17:19
  this
• 17:19
  is
• 17:20
  private
• 17:21
  property
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  because
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  ICE
• 17:23
  agents
• 17:24
  were
• 17:24
  not
• 17:25
  there
• 17:25
  to
• 17:26
  purchase
• 17:27
  some
• 17:27
  items
• 17:27
  from
• 17:27
  McDonald's,
• 17:28
  but
• 17:28
  they
• 17:28
  were
• 17:29
  there
• 17:29
  instead
• 17:30
  for
• 17:30
  other
• 17:30
  type
• 17:31
  of
• 17:31
  business,
• 17:32
  they
• 17:32
  were
• 17:32
  being
• 17:33
  denied
• 17:33
  entry
• 17:34
  into
• 17:34
  that
• 17:35
  private
• 17:35
  property.
• 17:36
  And
• 17:36
  that
• 17:36
  is
• 17:37
  where
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  nuance
• 17:38
  comes
• 17:38
  between
• 17:39
  when
• 17:40
  you're
• 17:40
  out
• 17:40
  in
• 17:40
  public
• 17:41
  and
• 17:41
  when
• 17:42
  you're
• 17:42
  out
• 17:42
  in
• 17:43
  private.
• 17:43
  The
• 17:43
  answer
• 17:44
  for
• 17:44
  the
• 17:44
  McDonald's
• 17:45
  case
• 17:46
  is
• 17:46
  that
• 17:46
  those
• 17:46
  ICE
• 17:47
  agents
• 17:47
  had
• 17:47
  to
• 17:47
  leave
• 17:48
  because
• 17:48
  they
• 17:48
  did
• 17:49
  not
• 17:49
  have
• 17:50
  a
• 17:50
  legitimate
• 17:51
  business
• 17:51
  purpose
• 17:52
  to
• 17:52
  be
• 17:53
  there
• 17:54
  without
• 17:55
  the
• 17:55
  owner's
• 17:56
  permission.
• 17:57
  Unless
• 17:58
  they
• 17:58
  had
• 17:58
  a
• 17:58
  judicial
• 17:59
  warrant,
• 17:59
  which
• 17:59
  they
• 18:00
  did
• 18:00
  not
• 18:00
  have,
• 18:00
  they
• 18:01
  said
• 18:01
  they
• 18:01
  would
• 18:01
  go
• 18:01
  and
• 18:02
  get
• 18:02
  it.
• 18:02
  We
• 18:03
  don't
• 18:03
  have
• 18:03
  a
• 18:03
  follow
• 18:03
  up
• 18:04
  of
• 18:04
  what
• 18:04
  happened
• 18:04
  afterwards,
• 18:05
  but
• 18:05
  they
• 18:05
  were
• 18:06
  not
• 18:06
  allowed
• 18:06
  entry.
• 18:07
  Actually,
• 18:07
  they
• 18:08
  had
• 18:08
  already
• 18:08
  gained
• 18:08
  entry,
• 18:09
  but
• 18:09
  they
• 18:09
  were
• 18:09
  actually
• 18:09
  required
• 18:10
  to
• 18:10
  leave
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  McDonald's.
• 18:12
  So
• 18:12
  here's
• 18:12
  what
• 18:12
  to
• 18:13
  remember.
• 18:13
  Anytime
• 18:14
  you
• 18:15
  are
• 18:15
  out
• 18:16
  in
• 18:16
  public,
• 18:16
  Right?
• 18:17
  Right.
• 18:17
  If
• 18:18
  you
• 18:18
  are
• 18:18
  not
• 18:18
  in
• 18:19
  your
• 18:19
  home,
• 18:19
  if
• 18:19
  you
• 18:19
  are
• 18:20
  outside
• 18:20
  of
• 18:21
  your
• 18:21
  home,
• 18:22
  you
• 18:22
  are
• 18:22
  deemed
• 18:23
  to
• 18:23
  be
• 18:23
  out
• 18:23
  in
• 18:24
  public.
• 18:24
  Even
• 18:24
  if
• 18:25
  you're
• 18:25
  on
• 18:25
  private
• 18:25
  property,
• 18:26
  such
• 18:26
  as
• 18:26
  a
• 18:26
  shopping,
• 18:27
  a
• 18:28
  shopping
• 18:28
  store,
• 18:28
  a
• 18:29
  grocery
• 18:29
  store,
• 18:30
  a
• 18:30
  mall,
• 18:31
  et
• 18:31
  cetera,
• 18:31
  et
• 18:31
  cetera,
• 18:32
  even
• 18:33
  though
• 18:33
  that
• 18:33
  may
• 18:33
  be
• 18:33
  private
• 18:34
  property,
• 18:34
  it's
• 18:35
  commercial
• 18:35
  property.
• 18:36
  Right.
• 18:36
  So
• 18:37
  you're
• 18:37
  still
• 18:37
  considered
• 18:38
  to
• 18:38
  be
• 18:38
  out
• 18:38
  in
• 18:39
  public
• 18:39
  unless
• 18:40
  the
• 18:41
  commercial
• 18:41
  property
• 18:42
  owner
• 18:43
  denies
• 18:44
  entry
• 18:46
  to
• 18:46
  the
• 18:47
  federal
• 18:47
  agent
• 18:48
  who
• 18:48
  only
• 18:49
  has
• 18:49
  an
• 18:49
  administrative
• 18:50
  warrant.
• 18:51
  Right.
• 18:51
  Because
• 18:51
  a
• 18:51
  judicial
• 18:52
  Warrant
• 18:52
  basically
• 18:53
  says
• 18:53
  it
• 18:53
  doesn't
• 18:53
  matter,
• 18:54
  right.
• 18:54
  Whether
• 18:55
  you
• 18:55
  deny
• 18:55
  entry
• 18:55
  or
• 18:56
  not,
• 18:56
  a
• 18:56
  judicial
• 18:57
  warrant
• 18:57
  will
• 18:57
  allow
• 18:57
  you
• 18:58
  to
• 18:58
  be
• 18:58
  there.
• 18:58
  So
• 18:59
  outside
• 19:00
  of
• 19:00
  your
• 19:00
  home,
• 19:02
  you
• 19:02
  are
• 19:02
  technically
• 19:03
  subject
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  arrest
• 19:04
  if
• 19:05
  you
• 19:05
  have
• 19:05
  an
• 19:05
  administrative
• 19:06
  warrant
• 19:07
  against
• 19:07
  you.
• 19:08
  And
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  only
• 19:09
  way
• 19:09
  that
• 19:09
  that
• 19:09
  can
• 19:10
  be
• 19:10
  blocked
• 19:10
  is
• 19:11
  if
• 19:11
  you
• 19:11
  are
• 19:11
  on
• 19:12
  commercial
• 19:12
  property
• 19:13
  where
• 19:13
  the
• 19:14
  commercial
• 19:14
  property
• 19:15
  owner
• 19:16
  denies
• 19:17
  entry.
• 19:17
  But
• 19:18
  if
• 19:18
  the
• 19:18
  commercial
• 19:19
  property
• 19:19
  owner
• 19:20
  does
• 19:21
  not
• 19:21
  deny
• 19:21
  entry
• 19:22
  for
• 19:22
  the
• 19:22
  ICE
• 19:23
  agent,
• 19:23
  that
• 19:24
  ICE
• 19:24
  agent
• 19:24
  could
• 19:25
  absolutely
• 19:26
  detain
• 19:26
  you,
• 19:27
  even
• 19:27
  if
• 19:28
  you're
• 19:28
  on
• 19:29
  commercially
• 19:30
  private
• 19:30
  property,
• 19:32
  and
• 19:32
  there's
• 19:32
  only
• 19:33
  an
• 19:33
  administrative
• 19:33
  warrant.
• 19:34
  So,
• 19:34
  Hunter,
• 19:35
  to
• 19:35
  answer
• 19:35
  your
• 19:36
  question,
• 19:36
  your
• 19:37
  castle
• 19:38
  is
• 19:38
  your
• 19:38
  home.
• 19:39
  Your
• 19:39
  castle
• 19:40
  is
• 19:40
  your
• 19:40
  safe
• 19:41
  space.
• 19:42
  As
• 19:42
  long
• 19:42
  as
• 19:42
  you
• 19:42
  are
• 19:42
  in
• 19:43
  your
• 19:43
  castle,
• 19:43
  you'll
• 19:44
  always
• 19:44
  be
• 19:44
  safe.
• 19:45
  Anytime
• 19:45
  you
• 19:46
  leave
• 19:46
  that
• 19:46
  castle,
• 19:47
  whether
• 19:47
  you're
• 19:47
  at
• 19:47
  your
• 19:47
  own
• 19:48
  work
• 19:49
  or
• 19:49
  whether
• 19:49
  you're
• 19:50
  shopping
• 19:50
  or
• 19:50
  whether
• 19:50
  you're
• 19:51
  anywhere
• 19:51
  else,
• 19:52
  you
• 19:52
  are
• 19:52
  now
• 19:52
  subject
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  rules
• 19:54
  of
• 19:55
  whatever
• 19:56
  property
• 19:56
  that
• 19:56
  you're
• 19:57
  in.
• 19:57
  And
• 19:58
  if
• 19:58
  that
• 19:58
  property
• 19:59
  owner
• 20:00
  allows
• 20:00
  ICE
• 20:01
  agents
• 20:01
  in,
• 20:02
  then
• 20:02
  there's
• 20:02
  really
• 20:02
  nothing
• 20:03
  that
• 20:03
  you
• 20:03
  can
• 20:03
  do.
• 20:05
  You
• 20:05
  know,
• 20:05
  we
• 20:06
  have,
• 20:06
  all
• 20:07
  three
• 20:07
  of
• 20:07
  us
• 20:07
  known
• 20:08
  each
• 20:08
  other
• 20:08
  for
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  long
• 20:09
  time,
• 20:10
  and
• 20:10
  far
• 20:11
  be
• 20:11
  it
• 20:11
  for
• 20:11
  me
• 20:11
  to
• 20:11
  ask
• 20:12
  for
• 20:12
  your
• 20:12
  personal
• 20:12
  opinion
• 20:13
  on
• 20:13
  anything,
• 20:13
  Ugo,
• 20:14
  but,
• 20:15
  you
• 20:15
  know,
• 20:15
  it
• 20:16
  strikes.
• 20:16
  Me
• 20:17
  involved
• 20:17
  in
• 20:17
  that.
• 20:18
  There
• 20:18
  you
• 20:18
  go.
• 20:19
  You're
• 20:20
  right.
• 20:20
  Not
• 20:20
  for
• 20:21
  friends
• 20:21
  and
• 20:21
  family.
• 20:21
  Friends
• 20:22
  and
• 20:22
  family.
• 20:23
  It's
• 20:23
  always
• 20:23
  on
• 20:23
  the
• 20:24
  house.
• 20:24
  We
• 20:24
  got
• 20:25
  the
• 20:25
  friends
• 20:25
  and
• 20:25
  family
• 20:25
  discount.
• 20:26
  You
• 20:26
  know,
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  thing
• 20:27
  that
• 20:27
  strikes
• 20:28
  me
• 20:28
  is
• 20:28
  we
• 20:28
  have
• 20:28
  talked
• 20:29
  for
• 20:29
  years.
• 20:29
  I
• 20:30
  mean,
• 20:30
  we've
• 20:30
  known
• 20:30
  each
• 20:30
  other
• 20:30
  a
• 20:30
  long
• 20:31
  time,
• 20:31
  and
• 20:31
  we've
• 20:32
  talked
• 20:32
  for
• 20:32
  years,
• 20:32
  and
• 20:32
  we
• 20:32
  talk
• 20:33
  about
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  new
• 20:33
  laws
• 20:33
  that
• 20:34
  come
• 20:34
  into
• 20:34
  California.
• 20:34
  We
• 20:35
  talk
• 20:35
  about
• 20:35
  all
• 20:35
  kinds
• 20:35
  of.
• 20:36
  We
• 20:36
  have
• 20:36
  never
• 20:37
  found
• 20:38
  ourselves
• 20:38
  having
• 20:39
  a
• 20:39
  conversation
• 20:39
  like
• 20:40
  this,
• 20:41
  about
• 20:41
  things
• 20:41
  that
• 20:42
  have
• 20:42
  to
• 20:42
  do
• 20:42
  with
• 20:43
  protecting
• 20:43
  oneself
• 20:44
  in
• 20:44
  public
• 20:45
  from
• 20:45
  federal
• 20:46
  agents.
• 20:46
  And,
• 20:47
  you
• 20:47
  know,
• 20:47
  it's
• 20:47
  sort
• 20:47
  of.
• 20:48
  I
• 20:48
  don't
• 20:49
  know,
• 20:49
  from
• 20:49
  your
• 20:49
  perspective,
• 20:50
  this.
• 20:50
  This
• 20:50
  has
• 20:50
  got
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  be
• 20:51
  quite
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  leap.
• 20:52
  Yeah.
• 20:53
  Keep
• 20:53
  in
• 20:53
  mind,
• 20:54
  Hal,
• 20:54
  not
• 20:54
  only
• 20:55
  are
• 20:55
  we
• 20:55
  talking
• 20:55
  about
• 20:56
  protecting
• 20:56
  yourself
• 20:57
  from
• 20:57
  federal
• 20:57
  agents,
• 20:58
  we're
• 20:58
  talking
• 20:58
  about
• 20:58
  protecting
• 20:59
  yourself
• 20:59
  from
• 21:00
  masked,
• 21:01
  unidentified
• 21:04
  federal
• 21:04
  agents
• 21:04
  who
• 21:05
  are
• 21:05
  often
• 21:05
  in
• 21:06
  unmarked
• 21:07
  vehicles,
• 21:09
  driving
• 21:09
  on
• 21:10
  public
• 21:10
  roads.
• 21:11
  You
• 21:11
  know,
• 21:12
  where
• 21:12
  you
• 21:13
  have
• 21:14
  to
• 21:15
  sometimes
• 21:15
  be
• 21:15
  psychic
• 21:16
  to
• 21:17
  know
• 21:17
  whether
• 21:17
  or
• 21:17
  not
• 21:18
  this
• 21:18
  is
• 21:19
  a
• 21:20
  masked
• 21:21
  robber
• 21:23
  or
• 21:23
  is
• 21:23
  this
• 21:24
  a
• 21:26
  federal
• 21:26
  agent
• 21:27
  with
• 21:27
  a
• 21:27
  badge
• 21:28
  and
• 21:29
  the
• 21:29
  authorities
• 21:30
  backed
• 21:31
  by
• 21:31
  the
• 21:32
  federal
• 21:32
  government.
• 21:33
  And
• 21:34
  that
• 21:34
  line,
• 21:36
  legally
• 21:36
  speaking,
• 21:36
  is
• 21:37
  becoming
• 21:37
  harder
• 21:38
  and
• 21:38
  harder
• 21:39
  to
• 21:40
  be
• 21:40
  able
• 21:40
  to
• 21:40
  see
• 21:40
  those.
• 21:41
  Those
• 21:41
  lines
• 21:42
  are
• 21:42
  becoming
• 21:42
  blurred
• 21:43
  because
• 21:46
  ICE
• 21:46
  agents
• 21:47
  who
• 21:47
  are
• 21:47
  masked,
• 21:48
  it
• 21:49
  is
• 21:49
  hard
• 21:49
  to
• 21:49
  know
• 21:50
  whether
• 21:50
  or
• 21:50
  not
• 21:51
  they
• 21:51
  are
• 21:51
  exactly
• 21:52
  who
• 21:52
  they
• 21:52
  say
• 21:52
  they
• 21:53
  are,
• 21:53
  because
• 21:53
  we
• 21:53
  have
• 21:53
  seen
• 21:54
  cases
• 21:55
  of
• 21:55
  other
• 21:56
  masked
• 21:57
  vigilantes
• 21:58
  in
• 21:58
  certain
• 21:59
  areas
• 21:59
  of
• 22:00
  the
• 22:00
  country
• 22:00
  who
• 22:01
  are
• 22:01
  not
• 22:01
  ICE
• 22:02
  agents,
• 22:02
  who
• 22:02
  have
• 22:03
  detained
• 22:03
  people
• 22:04
  claiming
• 22:04
  to
• 22:04
  be
• 22:05
  ICE
• 22:05
  agents.
• 22:05
  And
• 22:05
  keep
• 22:06
  in
• 22:06
  mind,
• 22:06
  it
• 22:06
  is
• 22:07
  a
• 22:07
  federal
• 22:07
  crime
• 22:08
  to
• 22:08
  impersonate
• 22:09
  an
• 22:09
  ICE
• 22:09
  agent
• 22:10
  or
• 22:10
  any
• 22:10
  type
• 22:10
  of
• 22:11
  federal
• 22:11
  agent.
• 22:11
  That
• 22:11
  is
• 22:12
  a
• 22:12
  federal
• 22:12
  crime.
• 22:13
  But
• 22:13
  that
• 22:13
  has
• 22:13
  not
• 22:13
  stopped
• 22:14
  people
• 22:14
  from
• 22:15
  masking
• 22:16
  up,
• 22:17
  wearing
• 22:17
  technical
• 22:18
  gear,
• 22:19
  and
• 22:19
  detaining
• 22:19
  people
• 22:20
  who
• 22:20
  they
• 22:21
  estimated
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  be
• 22:22
  undocumented
• 22:24
  immigrants.
• 22:24
  And
• 22:25
  the
• 22:25
  question
• 22:25
  that
• 22:25
  you
• 22:26
  ask
• 22:26
  yourself
• 22:26
  is
• 22:27
  that
• 22:27
  what
• 22:27
  can
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  law
• 22:28
  do
• 22:29
  about
• 22:29
  that?
• 22:30
  Well,
• 22:30
  several
• 22:30
  states
• 22:31
  have
• 22:31
  moved
• 22:31
  to
• 22:32
  pass
• 22:32
  laws
• 22:32
  to
• 22:33
  allow
• 22:34
  to
• 22:34
  force
• 22:35
  federal
• 22:36
  agents,
• 22:37
  ICE
• 22:37
  agents
• 22:37
  to
• 22:38
  not
• 22:38
  wear
• 22:38
  masks.
• 22:39
  But
• 22:39
  those
• 22:40
  laws
• 22:40
  have
• 22:41
  been
• 22:41
  shut
• 22:41
  down
• 22:42
  by
• 22:42
  appeals
• 22:43
  courts.
• 22:43
  And
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  reason
• 22:44
  why
• 22:44
  they've
• 22:44
  been
• 22:44
  shut
• 22:45
  down
• 22:45
  is
• 22:45
  because
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  government
• 22:46
  argues
• 22:47
  that
• 22:47
  ICE
• 22:48
  agents
• 22:48
  have
• 22:48
  to
• 22:49
  mask
• 22:49
  themselves
• 22:50
  for
• 22:51
  their
• 22:51
  tactical
• 22:51
  operations
• 22:52
  as
• 22:53
  well
• 22:53
  as
• 22:53
  for
• 22:54
  their
• 22:54
  own
• 22:54
  safety
• 22:55
  and
• 22:55
  their
• 22:55
  identity,
• 22:55
  because
• 22:56
  so
• 22:57
  many
• 22:57
  individuals
• 22:57
  are
• 22:58
  recording
• 22:59
  these
• 22:59
  ICE
• 22:59
  agents
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  then
• 23:00
  targeting
• 23:01
  their
• 23:01
  personal
• 23:01
  lives
• 23:02
  and
• 23:02
  their
• 23:02
  personal
• 23:03
  families,
• 23:04
  even
• 23:04
  when
• 23:04
  they're
• 23:04
  not
• 23:05
  on
• 23:05
  duty,
• 23:06
  even
• 23:06
  when
• 23:06
  they're
• 23:06
  off
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  clock.
• 23:08
  So
• 23:08
  our
• 23:09
  federal
• 23:09
  appeals
• 23:10
  courts,
• 23:11
  all
• 23:11
  the
• 23:11
  way
• 23:11
  up
• 23:11
  to
• 23:11
  our
• 23:11
  Supreme
• 23:12
  Court,
• 23:12
  has
• 23:13
  held
• 23:13
  and
• 23:13
  ruled
• 23:14
  that
• 23:15
  being
• 23:16
  masked
• 23:16
  is
• 23:17
  lawful.
• 23:17
  Right.
• 23:18
  And
• 23:19
  we
• 23:19
  also
• 23:19
  know
• 23:20
  that
• 23:20
  police
• 23:20
  officers
• 23:21
  do
• 23:21
  not
• 23:21
  have
• 23:21
  to
• 23:21
  identify
• 23:22
  themselves
• 23:22
  in
• 23:22
  emergency
• 23:24
  situations.
• 23:25
  So
• 23:25
  that
• 23:25
  is,
• 23:25
  if
• 23:25
  they
• 23:26
  are
• 23:26
  detaining
• 23:26
  someone
• 23:27
  and
• 23:27
  if
• 23:27
  an
• 23:28
  emergency
• 23:28
  arises
• 23:29
  where
• 23:29
  there's
• 23:30
  a
• 23:30
  crowd
• 23:30
  now
• 23:31
  forming
• 23:31
  around
• 23:32
  them,
• 23:32
  they
• 23:32
  also
• 23:32
  don't
• 23:33
  have
• 23:33
  to
• 23:33
  identify
• 23:33
  themselves
• 23:34
  as
• 23:34
  law
• 23:34
  enforcement.
• 23:35
  So
• 23:35
  we're
• 23:35
  in
• 23:35
  this
• 23:35
  strange
• 23:36
  limbo
• 23:38
  where
• 23:38
  you
• 23:39
  have
• 23:39
  to
• 23:39
  decide
• 23:40
  if
• 23:40
  someone
• 23:41
  is
• 23:41
  a
• 23:41
  masked
• 23:41
  vigilante
• 23:43
  or
• 23:43
  if
• 23:43
  they
• 23:44
  are
• 23:44
  law
• 23:44
  enforcement.
• 23:45
  Because
• 23:46
  law
• 23:46
  enforcement,
• 23:47
  whether
• 23:47
  they're
• 23:48
  masked
• 23:48
  or
• 23:48
  not,
• 23:49
  still
• 23:49
  has
• 23:50
  full
• 23:50
  legal
• 23:51
  protections
• 23:52
  under
• 23:53
  the
• 23:53
  law
• 23:53
  so
• 23:54
  long
• 23:54
  as
• 23:54
  that
• 23:54
  masked
• 23:55
  agent
• 23:55
  does
• 23:55
  not
• 23:55
  commit
• 23:56
  a
• 23:56
  crime
• 23:57
  themselves.
• 23:58
  And
• 23:58
  we've
• 23:58
  seen
• 23:59
  cases
• 23:59
  here
• 23:59
  in
• 24:00
  California
• 24:00
  as
• 24:01
  well
• 24:01
  as
• 24:01
  in
• 24:01
  Minnesota,
• 24:02
  where
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  governor
• 24:03
  of
• 24:03
  California
• 24:03
  as
• 24:03
  well
• 24:04
  as
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  governor
• 24:04
  of
• 24:04
  Minnesota
• 24:05
  have
• 24:05
  announced
• 24:06
  that
• 24:06
  if
• 24:07
  any
• 24:07
  crimes
• 24:08
  occur
• 24:10
  by
• 24:10
  ICE
• 24:11
  agents
• 24:11
  in
• 24:12
  their
• 24:12
  state,
• 24:13
  that
• 24:13
  these
• 24:13
  ICE
• 24:14
  agents
• 24:14
  will
• 24:14
  be
• 24:14
  prosecuted.
• 24:15
  And
• 24:15
  we
• 24:15
  have
• 24:16
  seen
• 24:16
  charges
• 24:17
  being
• 24:17
  filed
• 24:18
  against
• 24:19
  certain
• 24:19
  ICE
• 24:20
  agents.
• 24:20
  But
• 24:21
  as
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  citizen,
• 24:22
  it's
• 24:22
  tough.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:22
  even
• 24:22
  as
• 24:23
  a
• 24:23
  lawyer,
• 24:24
  even
• 24:24
  as
• 24:24
  a
• 24:24
  lawyer,
• 24:25
  it
• 24:25
  is
• 24:25
  tough.
• 24:26
  Because
• 24:26
  how
• 24:26
  do
• 24:27
  you
• 24:27
  distinguish
• 24:29
  a
• 24:29
  masked
• 24:30
  law
• 24:30
  enforcement
• 24:30
  who
• 24:31
  does
• 24:31
  not
• 24:31
  identify
• 24:32
  themselves
• 24:32
  because
• 24:33
  they
• 24:33
  don't
• 24:33
  have
• 24:33
  to
• 24:33
  in
• 24:33
  all
• 24:33
  circumstances,
• 24:35
  versus
• 24:35
  a
• 24:36
  masked
• 24:36
  vigilante
• 24:37
  that
• 24:37
  doesn't
• 24:38
  identify
• 24:39
  themselves?
• 24:40
  And
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  answer
• 24:40
  to
• 24:41
  that
• 24:41
  is,
• 24:42
  I
• 24:43
  don't
• 24:43
  know.
• 24:44
  Well,
• 24:44
  that's
• 24:45
  so
• 24:45
  not
• 24:45
  helpful.
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  mean.
• 24:46
  And
• 24:47
  you
• 24:47
  know
• 24:47
  what?
• 24:47
  I've
• 24:47
  never
• 24:47
  heard
• 24:47
  you
• 24:48
  say
• 24:48
  that
• 24:48
  before
• 24:49
  speaking.
• 24:49
  This
• 24:50
  may
• 24:50
  be
• 24:50
  the
• 24:50
  first
• 24:50
  time
• 24:50
  I've
• 24:51
  ever
• 24:51
  heard
• 24:51
  him
• 24:51
  say,
• 24:51
  I
• 24:51
  don't
• 24:52
  know.
• 24:53
  Two
• 24:53
  years
• 24:53
  ago,
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  can't
• 24:54
  even
• 24:54
  imagine
• 24:56
  thinking
• 24:56
  twice
• 24:57
  if
• 24:58
  an
• 24:58
  armed
• 24:59
  masked
• 24:59
  man
• 25:00
  came
• 25:00
  up
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  my
• 25:00
  window
• 25:01
  and
• 25:01
  tried
• 25:01
  to
• 25:01
  drag
• 25:02
  me
• 25:02
  out
• 25:02
  of
• 25:02
  my
• 25:02
  car.
• 25:03
  I
• 25:03
  can't
• 25:03
  imagine
• 25:04
  thinking
• 25:04
  twice
• 25:05
  about
• 25:06
  whether
• 25:06
  I
• 25:07
  would
• 25:07
  say,
• 25:07
  oh,
• 25:08
  okay.
• 25:10
  I
• 25:10
  mean,
• 25:11
  what
• 25:11
  kind
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  position
• 25:12
  does
• 25:12
  that
• 25:12
  put
• 25:13
  us
• 25:13
  in?
• 25:14
  It
• 25:14
  boggles.
• 25:15
  It
• 25:15
  boggles
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  mind.
• 25:17
  It
• 25:17
  boggles
• 25:18
  the
• 25:18
  mind.
• 25:19
  And
• 25:19
  as
• 25:20
  long,
• 25:20
  remember,
• 25:21
  ICE
• 25:21
  agents
• 25:22
  cannot
• 25:22
  conduct
• 25:22
  traffic
• 25:23
  stops.
• 25:24
  So
• 25:24
  an
• 25:25
  ICE
• 25:25
  agent
• 25:26
  does
• 25:26
  not
• 25:26
  have
• 25:26
  the
• 25:27
  same
• 25:27
  legal
• 25:27
  authority
• 25:28
  that
• 25:28
  CHP
• 25:29
  has.
• 25:30
  Right.
• 25:30
  They
• 25:30
  could
• 25:31
  not
• 25:31
  do
• 25:31
  traffic
• 25:32
  violations
• 25:33
  and
• 25:33
  then
• 25:33
  from
• 25:33
  a
• 25:33
  traffic
• 25:34
  violation,
• 25:34
  try
• 25:35
  and
• 25:36
  detain
• 25:36
  an
• 25:37
  individual.
• 25:37
  But
• 25:38
  they
• 25:39
  can,
• 25:39
  if
• 25:40
  they
• 25:40
  have
• 25:40
  a
• 25:40
  warrant,
• 25:41
  even
• 25:41
  an
• 25:41
  administrative
• 25:42
  warrant,
• 25:42
  if
• 25:42
  you're
• 25:42
  on
• 25:43
  public
• 25:43
  roads,
• 25:43
  they
• 25:44
  can
• 25:44
  initiate
• 25:45
  a
• 25:45
  stop
• 25:46
  for
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  purpose
• 25:47
  of
• 25:48
  effectuating
• 25:49
  a
• 25:50
  lawful
• 25:50
  arrest.
• 25:51
  The
• 25:52
  issue
• 25:52
  is
• 25:52
  exactly
• 25:53
  what
• 25:53
  you
• 25:54
  mentioned,
• 25:54
  that
• 25:56
  they
• 25:56
  usually
• 25:56
  come
• 25:57
  in
• 25:57
  hot,
• 25:58
  and
• 25:59
  it
• 25:59
  usually
• 26:00
  is
• 26:01
  they're
• 26:01
  looking
• 26:02
  for
• 26:02
  a
• 26:02
  suspect
• 26:02
  and
• 26:02
  they
• 26:03
  tell
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  that
• 26:04
  they're
• 26:04
  under
• 26:04
  arrest
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  they're
• 26:05
  breaking
• 26:06
  car
• 26:06
  windows,
• 26:07
  trying
• 26:07
  to
• 26:07
  unlock
• 26:08
  doors,
• 26:08
  and
• 26:08
  they're
• 26:09
  dragging
• 26:09
  people
• 26:09
  out
• 26:10
  of
• 26:10
  cars.
• 26:10
  We've
• 26:10
  seen
• 26:10
  these
• 26:11
  videos
• 26:11
  time
• 26:11
  and
• 26:12
  time
• 26:12
  again.
• 26:12
  We've
• 26:12
  seen
• 26:13
  so
• 26:13
  many
• 26:13
  of
• 26:13
  them.
• 26:14
  And
• 26:14
  without
• 26:16
  documentation,
• 26:17
  it's
• 26:17
  like,
• 26:17
  what
• 26:17
  can
• 26:18
  you
• 26:18
  do?
• 26:18
  Do
• 26:18
  you
• 26:18
  defend
• 26:18
  yourself?
• 26:19
  Well,
• 26:19
  if
• 26:19
  you
• 26:19
  defend
• 26:19
  yourself
• 26:20
  against
• 26:20
  a
• 26:21
  law
• 26:21
  enforcement
• 26:22
  agent
• 26:23
  that
• 26:23
  is
• 26:23
  executing
• 26:24
  a
• 26:24
  valid
• 26:25
  arrest,
• 26:26
  executing
• 26:26
  a
• 26:26
  valid
• 26:27
  arrest
• 26:28
  warrant,
• 26:28
  be
• 26:29
  it
• 26:29
  judicial
• 26:29
  or
• 26:29
  administrative,
• 26:30
  you're
• 26:31
  just
• 26:31
  going
• 26:31
  to
• 26:31
  hurt
• 26:31
  yourself.
• 26:31
  Because
• 26:32
  now
• 26:32
  not
• 26:32
  only
• 26:32
  will
• 26:33
  it
• 26:33
  be
• 26:33
  resisting
• 26:34
  arrest,
• 26:34
  but
• 26:35
  now
• 26:35
  you
• 26:35
  have
• 26:35
  assault
• 26:36
  upon
• 26:36
  a
• 26:36
  federal
• 26:37
  agent
• 26:37
  on
• 26:37
  top
• 26:37
  of
• 26:37
  it.
• 26:38
  So
• 26:38
  the
• 26:39
  best
• 26:39
  thing
• 26:39
  that
• 26:40
  individuals
• 26:40
  can
• 26:40
  do
• 26:41
  is
• 26:42
  again,
• 26:43
  ask
• 26:43
  for
• 26:43
  the
• 26:44
  information.
• 26:44
  Record.
• 26:45
  Start
• 26:45
  with
• 26:45
  recording.
• 26:46
  That's
• 26:46
  the
• 26:46
  most
• 26:47
  important
• 26:47
  thing
• 26:47
  that
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  can
• 26:48
  do.
• 26:48
  A
• 26:48
  lot
• 26:49
  of
• 26:49
  ICE
• 26:49
  agents
• 26:49
  will
• 26:49
  tell
• 26:50
  you
• 26:50
  that
• 26:50
  you
• 26:50
  cannot
• 26:50
  record
• 26:50
  them
• 26:51
  because
• 26:51
  that's
• 26:51
  impeding
• 26:51
  an
• 26:52
  investigation.
• 26:52
  That
• 26:53
  is
• 26:53
  not
• 26:53
  true.
• 26:54
  I've
• 26:54
  seen
• 26:54
  those
• 26:54
  videos
• 26:54
  all
• 26:55
  over
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  Internet
• 26:55
  saying,
• 26:56
  oh,
• 26:56
  you
• 26:56
  can't
• 26:56
  record
• 26:56
  us.
• 26:57
  Not
• 26:57
  true.
• 26:57
  You
• 26:58
  can
• 26:58
  record,
• 26:59
  record.
• 26:59
  And
• 27:00
  if
• 27:00
  they
• 27:00
  say,
• 27:00
  oh,
• 27:00
  we
• 27:01
  need
• 27:01
  to
• 27:01
  see
• 27:01
  your
• 27:01
  hands.
• 27:02
  You
• 27:02
  can't
• 27:02
  be.
• 27:03
  Put
• 27:03
  your
• 27:03
  phone
• 27:04
  down
• 27:04
  on
• 27:04
  the
• 27:04
  dashboard
• 27:05
  and
• 27:05
  record.
• 27:06
  Prop
• 27:06
  your
• 27:06
  phone
• 27:07
  up
• 27:07
  somewhere
• 27:07
  and
• 27:07
  record.
• 27:08
  Always,
• 27:08
  always
• 27:09
  record.
• 27:09
  The
• 27:10
  second
• 27:10
  thing
• 27:10
  that
• 27:10
  you
• 27:10
  can
• 27:10
  do
• 27:11
  is
• 27:11
  ask
• 27:12
  for
• 27:13
  their
• 27:13
  warrant.
• 27:14
  Do
• 27:14
  you
• 27:14
  have
• 27:14
  a
• 27:15
  warrant?
• 27:15
  Because
• 27:16
  they
• 27:16
  can
• 27:16
  only
• 27:16
  arrest
• 27:17
  people
• 27:17
  that
• 27:17
  are
• 27:18
  suspected
• 27:18
  of
• 27:18
  committing
• 27:19
  an
• 27:19
  immigration
• 27:20
  violation.
• 27:21
  So
• 27:21
  if
• 27:22
  there
• 27:22
  is
• 27:22
  no
• 27:22
  warrant
• 27:24
  and
• 27:25
  there
• 27:25
  is
• 27:26
  no
• 27:27
  suspicion
• 27:28
  of
• 27:28
  an
• 27:28
  immigration
• 27:29
  violation,
• 27:30
  there
• 27:31
  can
• 27:31
  be
• 27:31
  no
• 27:32
  legal
• 27:34
  detention.
• 27:36
  You
• 27:37
  know,
• 27:37
  I
• 27:37
  want
• 27:37
  to
• 27:37
  just.
• 27:37
  We
• 27:38
  only
• 27:38
  have
• 27:38
  a
• 27:38
  couple
• 27:38
  minutes
• 27:39
  left.
• 27:40
  And,
• 27:40
  you
• 27:40
  know,
• 27:40
  Hunter
• 27:41
  has
• 27:42
  been
• 27:42
  kind
• 27:42
  of
• 27:42
  interested
• 27:42
  in
• 27:42
  this
• 27:43
  topic
• 27:43
  about
• 27:43
  parents
• 27:44
  being
• 27:44
  arrested
• 27:45
  because
• 27:45
  their
• 27:46
  kids
• 27:46
  were
• 27:46
  on
• 27:46
  e
• 27:47
  motorcycles.
• 27:48
  And,
• 27:49
  you
• 27:49
  know,
• 27:49
  Hunter,
• 27:49
  I
• 27:50
  think
• 27:50
  that's
• 27:50
  probably.
• 27:50
  If
• 27:50
  we
• 27:50
  can
• 27:51
  just
• 27:51
  get
• 27:51
  a
• 27:51
  couple
• 27:51
  of
• 27:51
  minutes
• 27:52
  in
• 27:52
  there
• 27:52
  about
• 27:52
  this,
• 27:52
  I
• 27:53
  think
• 27:53
  that's
• 27:53
  a
• 27:53
  good
• 27:53
  topic.
• 27:54
  Let's
• 27:54
  sneak
• 27:54
  in
• 27:54
  a
• 27:54
  question.
• 27:55
  But
• 27:55
  honestly,
• 27:56
  at
• 27:56
  this
• 27:56
  point,
• 27:56
  I'm
• 27:57
  just
• 27:57
  going
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  book
• 27:57
  you
• 27:57
  for
• 27:58
  another
• 27:58
  session,
• 27:58
  Ugo,
• 27:59
  because
• 27:59
  I
• 27:59
  thought
• 27:59
  we
• 27:59
  could
• 27:59
  Do
• 28:00
  a
• 28:00
  whole
• 28:00
  lot
• 28:00
  more
• 28:00
  stuff.
• 28:01
  And
• 28:01
  this
• 28:01
  has
• 28:01
  just
• 28:01
  been
• 28:02
  so
• 28:02
  fascinating
• 28:03
  that
• 28:03
  we've
• 28:03
  used
• 28:03
  up
• 28:04
  the
• 28:04
  entire
• 28:04
  time.
• 28:05
  But
• 28:05
  real
• 28:05
  quick,
• 28:06
  recent
• 28:07
  situation,
• 28:08
  not
• 28:09
  far
• 28:09
  from
• 28:09
  me,
• 28:11
  not
• 28:11
  far
• 28:11
  from
• 28:12
  you,
• 28:13
  there
• 28:13
  was
• 28:13
  a
• 28:13
  parent
• 28:14
  arrested
• 28:15
  because
• 28:15
  her
• 28:16
  son
• 28:16
  was
• 28:16
  on
• 28:17
  a
• 28:17
  knee
• 28:17
  motorcycle
• 28:18
  young
• 28:18
  teen
• 28:19
  and
• 28:20
  killed
• 28:20
  somebody.
• 28:21
  And
• 28:22
  I
• 28:23
  mean
• 28:23
  you
• 28:23
  can
• 28:23
  understand
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  child
• 28:25
  being
• 28:25
  arrested,
• 28:26
  but
• 28:26
  why
• 28:27
  would
• 28:27
  they
• 28:27
  arrest
• 28:27
  the
• 28:28
  parent?
• 28:30
  Yeah,
• 28:31
  this
• 28:31
  is,
• 28:32
  this
• 28:32
  is
• 28:32
  tough,
• 28:33
  you
• 28:33
  know,
• 28:33
  and
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  reason
• 28:34
  why
• 28:34
  this
• 28:34
  is
• 28:35
  tough
• 28:35
  is
• 28:36
  because
• 28:36
  it
• 28:36
  goes
• 28:37
  along
• 28:37
  the
• 28:37
  lines
• 28:38
  of
• 28:39
  parental
• 28:40
  responsibility
• 28:41
  for
• 28:41
  the
• 28:42
  actions
• 28:43
  including
• 28:43
  the
• 28:44
  negligence
• 28:44
  or
• 28:44
  recklessness
• 28:46
  of
• 28:46
  their
• 28:47
  children.
• 28:47
  And
• 28:48
  we've
• 28:48
  even
• 28:48
  seen,
• 28:49
  I
• 28:49
  mean
• 28:50
  we've
• 28:50
  seen,
• 28:50
  as
• 28:51
  you
• 28:51
  just
• 28:51
  mentioned,
• 28:51
  Hunter,
• 28:51
  we
• 28:52
  see
• 28:52
  that
• 28:52
  with
• 28:52
  the
• 28:53
  ebike
• 28:53
  case,
• 28:54
  a
• 28:55
  14
• 28:55
  year
• 28:55
  old
• 28:56
  that,
• 28:57
  you
• 28:57
  know,
• 28:57
  killed
• 28:58
  a
• 28:58
  81
• 28:59
  year
• 28:59
  old
• 29:00
  driving
• 29:00
  on
• 29:01
  the
• 29:01
  E
• 29:01
  bike.
• 29:01
  But
• 29:02
  there
• 29:02
  is
• 29:03
  behind
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  scenes
• 29:05
  information
• 29:05
  that
• 29:06
  I
• 29:06
  think
• 29:06
  it's
• 29:06
  very
• 29:06
  important
• 29:06
  for
• 29:07
  the
• 29:07
  audience
• 29:07
  to
• 29:08
  know.
• 29:08
  The
• 29:09
  first
• 29:09
  thing
• 29:09
  that's
• 29:10
  important
• 29:10
  to
• 29:10
  know
• 29:10
  is
• 29:10
  that
• 29:10
  it's
• 29:11
  not
• 29:11
  an
• 29:11
  automatic
• 29:12
  thing
• 29:12
  for
• 29:12
  parents.
• 29:13
  It's
• 29:14
  not
• 29:14
  automatically
• 29:14
  your
• 29:15
  child
• 29:15
  does
• 29:15
  something
• 29:15
  wrong
• 29:16
  and
• 29:16
  your
• 29:16
  parents
• 29:17
  are
• 29:17
  automatically
• 29:18
  criminally
• 29:18
  liable.
• 29:19
  Parents
• 29:20
  will
• 29:20
  always
• 29:20
  be
• 29:21
  civilly
• 29:22
  liable
• 29:22
  for
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  acts
• 29:23
  of
• 29:24
  their
• 29:24
  guardians.
• 29:26
  Always.
• 29:26
  Right?
• 29:27
  Civilly.
• 29:28
  When
• 29:28
  you
• 29:29
  house
• 29:29
  someone
• 29:29
  in
• 29:30
  your
• 29:30
  house
• 29:30
  and
• 29:30
  they
• 29:31
  do
• 29:31
  something,
• 29:31
  even
• 29:31
  if
• 29:31
  you
• 29:32
  have
• 29:32
  a
• 29:32
  teenager
• 29:32
  driving
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  car
• 29:33
  and
• 29:34
  that
• 29:34
  teenager
• 29:34
  gets
• 29:34
  into
• 29:35
  a
• 29:35
  car
• 29:35
  accident,
• 29:36
  parents,
• 29:36
  you
• 29:37
  will
• 29:37
  always
• 29:37
  be
• 29:38
  civilly
• 29:39
  liable
• 29:39
  automatically
• 29:40
  for
• 29:40
  the
• 29:41
  actions
• 29:41
  of
• 29:41
  your
• 29:42
  children.
• 29:42
  But
• 29:43
  when
• 29:43
  it
• 29:43
  comes
• 29:43
  to
• 29:43
  criminal
• 29:44
  responsibility,
• 29:45
  that
• 29:46
  is
• 29:46
  not
• 29:46
  automatic.
• 29:48
  Courts
• 29:48
  have
• 29:49
  to
• 29:50
  receive
• 29:51
  evidence
• 29:52
  that
• 29:52
  there
• 29:52
  was
• 29:53
  also
• 29:54
  a
• 29:54
  type
• 29:54
  of
• 29:55
  negligence
• 29:56
  on
• 29:56
  the
• 29:57
  parent
• 29:58
  as
• 29:58
  well.
• 29:58
  And
• 29:58
  when
• 29:59
  we're
• 29:59
  Talking
• 29:59
  about
• 29:59
  this
• 29:59
  14
• 29:59
  year
• 30:00
  old
• 30:00
  case,
• 30:00
  this
• 30:01
  mother
• 30:01
  was
• 30:01
  actually
• 30:02
  warned
• 30:03
  that
• 30:03
  her
• 30:04
  child
• 30:05
  had
• 30:05
  been
• 30:05
  riding
• 30:06
  around
• 30:06
  this
• 30:06
  E
• 30:07
  bike,
• 30:07
  around
• 30:07
  this
• 30:07
  neighborhood,
• 30:08
  going
• 30:08
  up
• 30:09
  these
• 30:09
  excessive
• 30:09
  speeds
• 30:10
  and
• 30:11
  was
• 30:12
  riding
• 30:12
  dangerously.
• 30:13
  And
• 30:14
  in
• 30:14
  fact
• 30:15
  she
• 30:15
  was
• 30:15
  actually
• 30:16
  warned,
• 30:17
  even
• 30:17
  not
• 30:17
  only
• 30:18
  by
• 30:19
  neighbors
• 30:19
  but
• 30:19
  also
• 30:20
  warned
• 30:20
  by,
• 30:21
  by
• 30:21
  law
• 30:21
  enforcement
• 30:22
  as
• 30:22
  well,
• 30:22
  that
• 30:22
  hey,
• 30:24
  your
• 30:24
  kid
• 30:24
  needs
• 30:25
  to
• 30:25
  bring
• 30:25
  it
• 30:25
  down.
• 30:26
  The
• 30:27
  speeds
• 30:27
  are
• 30:27
  too
• 30:28
  high,
• 30:28
  this
• 30:28
  is
• 30:28
  too
• 30:29
  dangerous.
• 30:30
  And
• 30:30
  then
• 30:30
  that
• 30:31
  is
• 30:31
  when
• 30:32
  culpability
• 30:32
  comes
• 30:33
  in.
• 30:33
  Because
• 30:33
  now
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  parents
• 30:34
  have
• 30:35
  received
• 30:36
  warning
• 30:37
  that
• 30:38
  their
• 30:38
  own
• 30:39
  actions,
• 30:40
  the
• 30:40
  parents
• 30:41
  actions
• 30:42
  are
• 30:42
  now
• 30:42
  contributing
• 30:43
  or
• 30:43
  lack
• 30:44
  of
• 30:44
  actions,
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  should
• 30:45
  say.
• 30:45
  A
• 30:45
  parent's
• 30:46
  lack
• 30:46
  of
• 30:47
  of
• 30:47
  actions
• 30:47
  and
• 30:47
  lack
• 30:48
  of
• 30:48
  disciplining
• 30:49
  their
• 30:49
  child
• 30:50
  is
• 30:50
  now
• 30:50
  contributing
• 30:51
  to
• 30:51
  the
• 30:51
  danger
• 30:52
  of
• 30:52
  those
• 30:53
  around
• 30:53
  them.
• 30:54
  So
• 30:54
  then
• 30:55
  the
• 30:55
  best
• 30:55
  way
• 30:56
  to
• 30:56
  compare
• 30:56
  it
• 30:56
  is
• 30:57
  to
• 30:57
  compare
• 30:57
  it
• 30:57
  to,
• 30:58
  you
• 30:58
  know,
• 30:59
  firearms.
• 31:00
  When
• 31:00
  you
• 31:01
  purchase
• 31:01
  a
• 31:01
  weapon,
• 31:03
  just
• 31:03
  like
• 31:03
  this
• 31:03
  mother
• 31:04
  purchased
• 31:04
  an
• 31:05
  E
• 31:05
  bike
• 31:06
  and
• 31:06
  you
• 31:06
  bring
• 31:06
  that
• 31:06
  weapon
• 31:07
  into
• 31:07
  your
• 31:07
  home
• 31:07
  just
• 31:08
  like
• 31:08
  this
• 31:08
  mother
• 31:08
  brought
• 31:09
  in
• 31:09
  that
• 31:09
  E
• 31:09
  bike
• 31:10
  into
• 31:10
  your
• 31:10
  home
• 31:11
  and
• 31:11
  then
• 31:11
  you
• 31:12
  allow
• 31:13
  your
• 31:13
  child
• 31:14
  to
• 31:15
  use
• 31:16
  this
• 31:16
  item,
• 31:16
  if
• 31:16
  we're
• 31:16
  talking
• 31:17
  about
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  weapon,
• 31:17
  it
• 31:18
  could
• 31:18
  be
• 31:18
  allowing
• 31:18
  through
• 31:19
  negligence
• 31:20
  and
• 31:20
  what,
• 31:20
  what
• 31:20
  do
• 31:21
  I
• 31:21
  mean
• 31:21
  by
• 31:21
  that?
• 31:21
  Not
• 31:21
  locking
• 31:22
  up
• 31:22
  the
• 31:23
  weapon,
• 31:23
  not
• 31:24
  storing
• 31:24
  it
• 31:24
  away
• 31:25
  safely.
• 31:26
  Right.
• 31:27
  Or
• 31:27
  if
• 31:27
  we're
• 31:27
  talking
• 31:28
  about
• 31:28
  an
• 31:28
  E
• 31:28
  bike,
• 31:29
  handing
• 31:29
  it
• 31:29
  off
• 31:29
  to
• 31:29
  your
• 31:30
  child
• 31:31
  and
• 31:31
  then
• 31:31
  that
• 31:32
  child
• 31:32
  goes
• 31:32
  and
• 31:32
  injures
• 31:33
  someone
• 31:34
  by
• 31:34
  either
• 31:35
  shooting
• 31:35
  someone
• 31:36
  or
• 31:36
  running
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  someone
• 31:38
  at
• 31:38
  dangerous
• 31:38
  speeds,
• 31:39
  a
• 31:39
  parent
• 31:40
  can
• 31:40
  absolutely
• 31:41
  be
• 31:41
  held
• 31:41
  criminally
• 31:42
  liable
• 31:42
  because
• 31:43
  it's
• 31:43
  the
• 31:43
  parents
• 31:44
  actions,
• 31:45
  the
• 31:46
  parents
• 31:46
  actions
• 31:47
  that
• 31:47
  are
• 31:48
  causing
• 31:49
  their
• 31:49
  own
• 31:50
  criminal
• 31:51
  liability.
• 31:52
  So
• 31:52
  it's
• 31:52
  really
• 31:53
  important
• 31:53
  for
• 31:54
  all
• 31:54
  the
• 31:54
  parents
• 31:54
  out
• 31:55
  there
• 31:55
  that
• 31:55
  are
• 31:56
  listening,
• 31:57
  number
• 31:57
  one,
• 31:58
  supervise
• 31:58
  your
• 31:59
  children.
• 31:59
  That
• 32:00
  is
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  best
• 32:00
  thing
• 32:01
  that
• 32:01
  you
• 32:01
  can
• 32:01
  always
• 32:02
  do.
• 32:03
  Number
• 32:03
  two,
• 32:03
  there
• 32:04
  was
• 32:04
  a
• 32:04
  separate
• 32:04
  case,
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  this
• 32:05
  is
• 32:05
  a
• 32:05
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• 32:05
  case,
• 32:05
  this
• 32:06
  to
• 32:06
  do
• 32:06
  with
• 32:06
  the
• 32:06
  father
• 32:07
  who
• 32:07
  actually
• 32:08
  modified
• 32:09
  his
• 32:09
  child's
• 32:10
  E
• 32:10
  bike.
• 32:11
  An
• 32:11
  E
• 32:11
  bike
• 32:11
  usually
• 32:12
  goes
• 32:12
  around
• 32:12
  20
• 32:12
  miles
• 32:13
  per
• 32:13
  hour.
• 32:13
  The
• 32:13
  father
• 32:14
  modified
• 32:14
  it
• 32:15
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• 32:15
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• 32:16
  go
• 32:16
  up
• 32:16
  to
• 32:16
  60
• 32:16
  miles
• 32:17
  per
• 32:17
  hour.
• 32:17
  And
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  courts
• 32:18
  held
• 32:19
  that
• 32:19
  father
• 32:19
  criminal,
• 32:20
  criminally
• 32:21
  liable
• 32:21
  as
• 32:22
  well,
• 32:23
  saying
• 32:23
  that
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  father
• 32:24
  should
• 32:24
  have
• 32:25
  never
• 32:25
  modified
• 32:26
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• 32:26
  E
• 32:27
  bike
• 32:27
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• 32:27
  allow
• 32:27
  the
• 32:28
  E
• 32:28
  bike
• 32:28
  to
• 32:28
  go
• 32:28
  to
• 32:28
  that
• 32:29
  kind
• 32:29
  of
• 32:29
  dangerous
• 32:29
  speeds.
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  Just
• 32:31
  be
• 32:32
  responsible
• 32:32
  for
• 32:33
  parents,
• 32:34
  if
• 32:34
  you
• 32:34
  see
• 32:35
  your
• 32:35
  child
• 32:36
  doing
• 32:36
  something
• 32:37
  wrong,
• 32:37
  take
• 32:37
  away
• 32:38
  their
• 32:38
  E
• 32:38
  bike,
• 32:38
  give
• 32:39
  it
• 32:39
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• 32:39
  them
• 32:39
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• 32:39
  they're
• 32:40
  16,
• 32:40
  when
• 32:40
  they're
• 32:40
  old
• 32:40
  enough
• 32:41
  to
• 32:41
  realize
• 32:43
  that
• 32:43
  their
• 32:44
  actions
• 32:44
  have
• 32:45
  consequences.
• 32:46
  Because
• 32:46
  if
• 32:46
  you
• 32:46
  don't
• 32:47
  and
• 32:48
  your
• 32:48
  child
• 32:48
  injures
• 32:49
  someone's
• 32:49
  or
• 32:49
  even
• 32:50
  worse,
• 32:50
  kills
• 32:51
  somebody,
• 32:52
  then
• 32:52
  yes,
• 32:52
  under
• 32:53
  certain
• 32:53
  circumstances,
• 32:54
  especially
• 32:54
  if
• 32:54
  you
• 32:55
  knew
• 32:55
  that
• 32:55
  the
• 32:55
  danger
• 32:56
  was
• 32:56
  there,
• 32:57
  you,
• 32:57
  the
• 32:57
  parent
• 32:58
  could
• 32:58
  be
• 32:58
  held
• 32:59
  criminally
• 32:59
  responsible
• 32:59
  as
• 33:00
  well.
• 33:01
  You
• 33:01
  know,
• 33:01
  we
• 33:01
  could
• 33:01
  easily
• 33:02
  talk
• 33:02
  about
• 33:02
  this
• 33:02
  for
• 33:03
  quite
• 33:03
  a
• 33:03
  while.
• 33:03
  I
• 33:03
  mean,
• 33:04
  I
• 33:04
  think
• 33:04
  Hunter's
• 33:04
  right.
• 33:04
  We
• 33:05
  got
• 33:05
  to
• 33:05
  get
• 33:05
  you
• 33:05
  back
• 33:05
  here
• 33:05
  and
• 33:06
  have
• 33:06
  another
• 33:06
  podcast
• 33:07
  with
• 33:07
  you.
• 33:07
  You,
• 33:08
  you're
• 33:08
  a
• 33:08
  wealth
• 33:08
  of
• 33:09
  knowledge,
• 33:09
  of
• 33:09
  information
• 33:10
  and
• 33:10
  I
• 33:10
  think
• 33:11
  at
• 33:11
  this
• 33:11
  point
• 33:11
  it's
• 33:11
  very
• 33:11
  important
• 33:12
  for
• 33:12
  you
• 33:12
  to
• 33:12
  tell
• 33:12
  everybody
• 33:13
  how
• 33:13
  they
• 33:14
  can
• 33:14
  join
• 33:14
  the
• 33:14
  5
• 33:15
  billion
• 33:15
  other
• 33:15
  people
• 33:16
  that
• 33:16
  follow
• 33:17
  you.
• 33:17
  And
• 33:18
  if
• 33:18
  you
• 33:18
  have
• 33:18
  a
• 33:18
  particular
• 33:19
  website.
• 33:19
  You'd
• 33:19
  like
• 33:19
  to
• 33:20
  share,
• 33:20
  you're
• 33:21
  very
• 33:21
  kind.
• 33:21
  I'm
• 33:22
  at
• 33:22
  Ugolord
• 33:23
  on
• 33:24
  all
• 33:24
  socials,
• 33:24
  so
• 33:25
  that's
• 33:25
  at
• 33:25
  Ugo
• 33:26
  L
• 33:27
  O
• 33:27
  R
• 33:27
  D
• 33:28
  on
• 33:28
  all
• 33:28
  social
• 33:29
  media.
• 33:29
  Also
• 33:29
  my
• 33:30
  website,
• 33:30
  ugolord.com
• 33:32
  Feel
• 33:32
  free
• 33:32
  to
• 33:32
  join
• 33:33
  the
• 33:33
  team.
• 33:34
  We
• 33:34
  would
• 33:34
  love
• 33:35
  to
• 33:35
  have
• 33:36
  you.
• 33:36
  We
• 33:36
  always
• 33:36
  talk
• 33:37
  about
• 33:38
  legal
• 33:38
  knowledge.
• 33:39
  It's
• 33:39
  free,
• 33:40
  educational,
• 33:41
  interesting
• 33:42
  legal
• 33:43
  topics,
• 33:43
  just
• 33:44
  like
• 33:44
  this
• 33:44
  one.
• 33:44
  And
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  can't
• 33:45
  thank
• 33:45
  you
• 33:45
  guys
• 33:45
  enough
• 33:46
  for
• 33:46
  having
• 33:46
  me.
• 33:47
  We
• 33:47
  have
• 33:47
  so
• 33:47
  many
• 33:48
  for
• 33:49
  you
• 33:49
  when
• 33:49
  you
• 33:49
  come
• 33:49
  back.
• 33:51
  I
• 33:51
  look
• 33:51
  forward
• 33:51
  to
• 33:52
  it.
• 33:52
  Thank
• 33:52
  you
• 33:52
  so
• 33:52
  much,
• 33:53
  Hugo.
• 33:54
  Great
• 33:54
  session.
• 33:55
  Thanks.
• 33:55
  By
• 33:55
  the
• 33:55
  way,
• 33:56
  Hal,
• 33:56
  love
• 33:56
  your
• 33:57
  book.
• 33:57
  Love
• 33:58
  your
• 33:58
  book.
• 33:58
  It's
• 33:59
  a
• 33:59
  page
• 33:59
  turner.
• 34:00
  It's
• 34:00
  an
• 34:00
  absolute
• 34:01
  page
• 34:01
  turner.
• 34:01
  I
• 34:01
  enjoyed
• 34:02
  every
• 34:03
  page
• 34:03
  of
• 34:03
  it.
• 34:03
  So
• 34:04
  I
• 34:04
  need
• 34:04
  a
• 34:05
  signed
• 34:05
  copy.
• 34:05
  I
• 34:06
  need
• 34:06
  a
• 34:06
  sign.
• 34:06
  I'll
• 34:07
  do
• 34:07
  that
• 34:07
  for
• 34:07
  you.
• 34:07
  And
• 34:07
  thanks
• 34:08
  for
• 34:08
  an
• 34:08
  opportunity
• 34:08
  to
• 34:09
  do
• 34:09
  a
• 34:09
  shameless
• 34:09
  plug
• 34:10
  of
• 34:10
  my
• 34:11
  book.
• 34:11
  It
• 34:11
  is
• 34:12
  called
• 34:12
  An
• 34:13
  Accidental
• 34:14
  Career.
• 34:14
  It's
• 34:14
  about
• 34:14
  my
• 34:14
  58
• 34:15
  years
• 34:15
  in
• 34:15
  broadcasting,
• 34:16
  43
• 34:17
  of
• 34:17
  them
• 34:17
  on
• 34:17
  TV
• 34:18
  here
• 34:18
  in
• 34:18
  Los
• 34:18
  Angeles.
• 34:19
  Takes
• 34:19
  you
• 34:19
  all
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  way
• 34:20
  back
• 34:20
  to
• 34:20
  when
• 34:20
  I
• 34:20
  was
• 34:20
  a
• 34:21
  little
• 34:21
  kid.
• 34:21
  It's
• 34:21
  an
• 34:21
  interesting
• 34:22
  book
• 34:22
  and
• 34:22
  you
• 34:22
  know,
• 34:22
  a
• 34:23
  couple
• 34:23
  people
• 34:23
  said
• 34:23
  it's
• 34:24
  a
• 34:24
  pretty
• 34:24
  good
• 34:24
  page
• 34:24
  turner.
• 34:25
  So
• 34:25
  let
• 34:26
  us
• 34:26
  know
• 34:26
  if
• 34:26
  you
• 34:26
  get
• 34:26
  it.
• 34:27
  Send
• 34:27
  us
• 34:27
  a
• 34:27
  picture
• 34:27
  and
• 34:28
  hold
• 34:28
  it
• 34:28
  up
• 34:28
  like
• 34:29
  this
• 34:29
  and
• 34:29
  we'll
• 34:29
  put
• 34:29
  it
• 34:29
  on
• 34:29
  social
• 34:30
  media.
• 34:30
  And
• 34:31
  that's
• 34:31
  for
• 34:32
  you
• 34:32
  too,
• 34:32
  Ugo.
• 34:32
  Hold
• 34:33
  that
• 34:33
  book
• 34:33
  up
• 34:33
  and
• 34:33
  we'll
• 34:34
  put
• 34:34
  that
• 34:34
  on
• 34:34
  my
• 34:34
  social
• 34:35
  media.
• 34:35
  And
• 34:35
  thank
• 34:35
  you
• 34:35
  for
• 34:36
  saying
• 34:36
  that.
• 34:36
  And
• 34:37
  thanks
• 34:37
  everybody.
• 34:38
  Thank
• 34:39
  you
• 34:39
  guys.
• 34:40
  Thank
• 34:40
  you
• 34:40
  guys.
• 34:41
  And
• 34:41
  that's
• 34:42
  what
• 34:42
  the
• 34:42
  hell
• 34:43
  2.0
• 34:44
  I'm
• 34:44
  how
• 34:44
  Eisner
• 34:45
  along
• 34:45
  with
• 34:45
  Elsa
• 34:45
  Ramon
• 34:46
  and
• 34:46
  Hunter
• 34:46
  Lowery.
• 34:47
  This
• 34:47
  podcast
• 34:48
  is
• 34:48
  produced
• 34:49
  by
• 34:49
  Hunter.
• 34:49
  Jamie
• 34:50
  Knapp
• 34:50
  is
• 34:50
  our
• 34:50
  Technical
• 34:51
  director
• 34:51
  Editor
• 34:52
  and
• 34:52
  he
• 34:52
  handles
• 34:53
  all
• 34:53
  of
• 34:53
  the
• 34:53
  post
• 34:54
  production.
• 34:55
  Our
• 34:55
  original
• 34:55
  theme
• 34:56
  music
• 34:56
  is
• 34:56
  composed
• 34:57
  by
• 34:57
  Stuart
• 34:57
  Pearson.
• 34:58
  Earlier
• 34:59
  versions
• 34:59
  of
• 34:59
  the
• 35:00
  podcast
• 35:00
  were
• 35:01
  produced
• 35:01
  at
• 35:01
  the
• 35:01
  studios
• 35:02
  of
• 35:02
  Fox
• 35:02
  11
• 35:03
  in
• 35:03
  Los
• 35:03
  Angeles
• 35:04
  and
• 35:04
  are
• 35:04
  available
• 35:05
  through
• 35:05
  the
• 35:05
  link
• 35:06
  in
• 35:06
  our
• 35:06
  Show
• 35:06
  Notes.
• 35:07
  This
• 35:07
  version
• 35:08
  of
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  podcast
• 35:09
  is
• 35:09
  available
• 35:09
  on
• 35:10
  YouTube
• 35:10
  and
• 35:11
  wherever
• 35:11
  you
• 35:11
  listen
• 35:11
  to
• 35:12
  podcasts
• 35:13
  and
• 35:13
  what
• 35:13
  the
• 35:13
  How
• 35:14
  2.0
• 35:15
  is
• 35:15
  produced
• 35:16
  in
• 35:16
  Los
• 35:16
  Angeles,
• 35:16
  California.