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5/8/26 - Hour 3 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Locked and loaded, final hour of the Huddle here on
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  Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin of the day of the week,
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  Speaker 1: and it's time to roll forward with you and the
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  Speaker 1: Nick lay Lot dot Com talking text line eight seven
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  Speaker 1: seven seven nine four seven three Hot stuff on here, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of folks weighing in on our conversation
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  Speaker 1: that we enjoyed having during the sixth five hour. Some
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  Speaker 1: of us enjoyed, some of us didn't have, like having
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  Speaker 1: of the noodles in Chile. Some people loving the fact
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  Speaker 1: of weighing in. More importantly, I like that, Uh, we
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  Speaker 1: are able to get so many people fired up and
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  Speaker 1: enjoying themselves on a Friday, And shout out to our friend, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Gasper firing and the cat and eight Joe Marcus
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  Speaker 1: and Iowa cot night Joe on a Friday, you mad man.
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  Speaker 1: That earworm is gonna be and h stuck all weekend long.
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  Speaker 1: That is one of those that will that will sit
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  Speaker 1: in your mind much like a Miss Rachel song for
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  Speaker 1: about a week a half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right on both counts there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that both earworms and that was a banger man,
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  Speaker 3: that that that song was a banger and we appreciated
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  Speaker 3: that so good.
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  Speaker 2: There it is. Yeah, it's an absolutely and enjoy Friday night. Now.
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  Speaker 2: This is by the the musical group called Rednecks with
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  Speaker 2: an X.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to these guys.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they had the other hits, but
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  Speaker 3: I hope they're still getting money off of this, because
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  Speaker 3: I would not imagine that they had any.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think.
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  Speaker 1: I'd think some royalties are still probably getting pumped out
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  Speaker 1: of nothing. Granted, I don't necessarily know how much it
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  Speaker 1: gets played at uh, you know school dance Red White
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  Speaker 1: and Blue. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, definitely
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's getting played in many school dances, maybe
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  Speaker 1: like the middle school dance when people are actually actively
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  Speaker 1: doing like the pc A Fortnite dance that you then
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  Speaker 1: thought was the Cotton Nights.
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  Speaker 3: If it gets big again on TikTok, that's the answer.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the answer to anything these days. If
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  Speaker 3: you can get your song big again on there, you
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  Speaker 3: get a second life for it. So hey, it was
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  Speaker 3: a Swedish euro dance group. Rednext didn't even know that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize they were Swedish either. Yeah, yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: you go. You saw the same thing I did.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that and album media and the album was
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  Speaker 3: called anybody want to guess if your guest was sex
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  Speaker 3: and violins, you were correct, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, the tip of my tongue. I guess.
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  Speaker 3: You just don't know sometimes how people get down, like
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  Speaker 3: for instance, and I was gonna save this for who's
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  Speaker 3: hot and who's not, but I'll do it now. Derek
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  Speaker 3: and Whitewater on the text line here talking text line
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  Speaker 3: said that he went to prom once and all he
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  Speaker 3: remembers was being in the back seat of was my
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  Speaker 3: mom's ninety two Cadillacs Ofville.
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  Speaker 2: It was a good time. Hopefully she does too. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know you got down like that, Derek. So
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  Speaker 2: there you go. It's just certain things you don't expect.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how Derek. That's it. Yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Eight seven seven seven.
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  Speaker 1: Nine four seven three h Jargon on the talking on
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  Speaker 1: the YouTube comments right, how how is PTI not considered
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  Speaker 1: the first sports debate show?
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  Speaker 2: Fair point? Yeah, fair question. That's in the mix. In
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  Speaker 2: the mix a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit different style than what Skipp and Shannon are start
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  Speaker 1: pardon me skipping, steven A are about to fire back
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  Speaker 1: up here today for the first time and only time
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  Speaker 1: in a long time, right where you have the moderator,
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  Speaker 1: Cornett has to sit in the middle and actually throw
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  Speaker 1: it back and forth. Skipp and Shannon then took it
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  Speaker 1: to a different level as well. Like I mean, PTI
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  Speaker 1: has had phenomenal ratings, been on the air for what
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  Speaker 1: over twenty five years. The show, it's absolutely one of
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  Speaker 1: the pillars and the ones that you discussed. Those guys
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  Speaker 1: in the morning, though, took the ratings levels to kind
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  Speaker 1: of different heights that it had not seen before.
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  Speaker 2: It was all more open for him too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean PTI was great because they had the rundown
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  Speaker 3: on the side, which is.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty minutes, right, was right, thirty minutes So it was
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  Speaker 2: all micro debates. It really wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: They actually would both give a take and then sometimes
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  Speaker 3: getting a debate. But it was pretty rare because it
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  Speaker 3: was only like three minutes at a time. But that
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  Speaker 3: show was revolutionary for a lot of ways, not just
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  Speaker 3: because of the style, but because you could get that
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  Speaker 3: rundown of topics in the side, and that was one
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  Speaker 3: thing you couldn't count on back in the day watching
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  Speaker 3: Sports Center.
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  Speaker 2: You had to watch the whole thing. Hope in the
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  Speaker 2: Brewer highlight would.
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  Speaker 3: Come that you'd get it up the backers, but really
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  Speaker 3: have it no guarantee where at least on PTI. And
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  Speaker 3: this was great, by the way, for young radio producer
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  Speaker 3: that wanted to get some audio you could. You could
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  Speaker 3: also you could anticipate when they were to talk about
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  Speaker 3: your team or talk about like Okay, I got this
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  Speaker 3: amount of timer, I had this much, I know it's
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  Speaker 3: coming up, where you could at least expect them to
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  Speaker 3: talk about the subject you want to talk about, which
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  Speaker 3: was a big deal in my youth in the nineties
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  Speaker 3: and two thousands, when you didn't know if you'd get
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  Speaker 3: any national coverage as a fan of the Brewers, Bucks,
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  Speaker 3: even Packers at some point, so well, not really as
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  Speaker 3: much because the Packers would get a lot of coverage.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't know if you'd get that coverage.
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  Speaker 3: So the off chance you did when it was like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 3: that you know Brandon Jennings is playing, well, are people
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  Speaker 3: gonna start talking about the Bucks again?
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  Speaker 1: Or anybody even watched this guys drop fifty five as
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  Speaker 1: rookie against the Warriors, o.
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  Speaker 3: GE's having a good year, or the fear of the
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  Speaker 3: Deer Bucks, like we were starting to get in people's
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  Speaker 3: consciousness again.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, there's gonna be some buck convo. I
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  Speaker 2: better get around by, get.
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  Speaker 3: The kids, Get the kids, you know, get the family around,
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  Speaker 3: call up your buddies. They're gonna talk about the bucks
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  Speaker 3: on ESPN. That's what it felt like. And that's the
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  Speaker 3: one thing, Pete I would offer you. But it was
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  Speaker 3: more of a micro debate. It really wasn't like a
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  Speaker 3: full debate because of the time allowed. So I would
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  Speaker 3: agree with you, Billy. First Take was the first one
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  Speaker 3: to have that full open form. There was also on
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  Speaker 3: the horn.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again it's like two seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Minute down with one run through, and we had other
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  Speaker 1: people weighing in on different ones, right like cold Pizza
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  Speaker 1: would be there as another one that was the predecessor.
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  Speaker 1: That was the that was the big the launch point
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  Speaker 1: to First Take, which obviously has blown up. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's still on the air for like twenty
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  Speaker 1: some years now.
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  Speaker 2: It's gone in and out.
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  Speaker 1: Of a couple of different, uh, different permeations of it.
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  Speaker 1: But a phenomenal run and I'll say that that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be an interesting one to.
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  Speaker 2: Watch here today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not positive I can tell you that I'll be
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  Speaker 1: watching all two hours. I can't tell you that I'll
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  Speaker 1: probably watch much of the two hours. I will definitely
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  Speaker 1: be watching the clips because I got to see if
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  Speaker 1: Skip Bayless still has his fastball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna watch it, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Doubting Skip Bayless still has his fastball because he's on
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  Speaker 1: that he's on the Uh yeah, sure, totally. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: in the arena. In the arena, I think he's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a Gilbert Arenas production. But he's talking to a
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  Speaker 1: keep to leave and another really nice young lady like
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  Speaker 1: he's doing stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Skip Bayless is working.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's getting a check, right, I mean that's
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  Speaker 1: maybe because I don't know who's watching it. Well, apparently,
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  Speaker 1: I do know that he's gonna bring some some hot
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  Speaker 1: clips here today because he's been saying he's been putting
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  Speaker 1: it out online. Skip Bayless is coming for Absolute next
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  Speaker 1: today when he joins First Take. Well, but he better
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  Speaker 1: be tomorrow ten am Eastern ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: Don't miss it. I'm ready.
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  Speaker 3: He's had the whole I mean, he's had his whole
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  Speaker 3: time to fire in for one day's worth of content.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's really easy to have one show so it's
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  Speaker 3: like it's harder to do it every day. Like that's
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  Speaker 3: what makes what those guys do, I think more impressive
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  Speaker 3: than people give them credit for, especially Steve today. But
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  Speaker 3: when Skip's been preparing for this, I'm sure he can
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  Speaker 3: get Smith.
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  Speaker 2: I'm about to unleash like never before.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait Friday, ten am Eastern ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of US periods in there as well. Is
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  Speaker 2: this further take or a wrestling promo?
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  Speaker 1: Ww they're kind of blending in because we get we
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  Speaker 1: wrestlers doing promos on on the Four Letter Network all
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  Speaker 1: day long.
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  Speaker 5: So I would love to see Skip Bayless and Steve N.
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  Speaker 5: Smith actually like fight in the ring, Steve you.
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  Speaker 1: Kidding, yes, pore Like I'd pay big money to watch.
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  Speaker 3: And the promo Skip was in the mirror like doing
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  Speaker 3: his weight lifting and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff, saying Skip's shacked up Jack, but he's also put
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  Speaker 2: these videos into his phone and like crying when the
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  Speaker 2: count almost looks like.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't mean this in a demeaning way, I
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  Speaker 1: just mean it like when my three year old is
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  Speaker 1: deciding if he is going to go over here and
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  Speaker 1: drop kick the one year old right like he it
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  Speaker 1: goes through his mind. He sits there and stews and
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  Speaker 1: kind of like Grimaces gets excited because you know he's there,
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  Speaker 1: he's thinking about it. He really wants to knows he
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't know. He's gonna get yelled and should This is
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  Speaker 1: Skip Bayless for the first like five seconds of the videos.
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  Speaker 1: He's excited just to yell, Hey, I'm gonna be on televiton.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hot.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be super super zoomed in shot of him,
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  Speaker 3: but he's like in really uncomfortable lighting, like awkward.
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  Speaker 2: Look at his cowboys at y.
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  Speaker 3: And then you take a sit back and say, this
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  Speaker 3: is a seventy four year old man.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah he's an old man. That is a
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  Speaker 2: seven year as well. But you're right.
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  Speaker 3: These days the wrestling promos have been ubiquitous on the
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  Speaker 3: Big four letter network if you like that were so,
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  Speaker 3: they've been all over the place. So hey, maybe today's
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  Speaker 3: the day for that. I'm not really sure. And I
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  Speaker 3: was sitting here wonder one Cameron's gonna be back on
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  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: That was something I was enjoying those clips yesterday better
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  Speaker 3: than I did not anticipate Cameron, one of the top
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  Speaker 3: New York rappers in the scene twenty five years ago.
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  Speaker 2: To be loading up in that double breasted suit and
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  Speaker 2: giving it absolute.
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  Speaker 1: Takes playing was Alex, it's hard to do their one
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  Speaker 1: tho fiftieth Brady topic and their nine hundred and forty
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  Speaker 1: second Lebron topic.
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  Speaker 2: But guess what, Alex, they got it for you.
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  Speaker 5: I think you got it for you, baby. I think
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  Speaker 5: he's under selling the number of Lebron times.
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  Speaker 2: I should have said that I was gonna add a
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  Speaker 2: zero to the Lebron top. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing is it's been star people have
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  Speaker 3: been star war now for so long because he hasn't
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  Speaker 3: been on there. So in a way, it's like they
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  Speaker 3: haven't done it, but they haven't done it in a while.
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  Speaker 3: It's like we brought back the chili noodles in seven years.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like you you almost believe at some point
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  Speaker 1: the Skip baylest thing should be the Onion.
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  Speaker 2: Version of sports conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, like almost almost ridiculously right.
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  Speaker 1: I would have hear so much that it's almost hetorical. However,
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  Speaker 1: my man believes every word that comes out of his mouth.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to do that.
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  Speaker 1: What's that's what's impressive and uh and and I don't
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  Speaker 1: agree with a whole heck of a lot that he's
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  Speaker 1: ever said.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this delivers it in a fun way.
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  Speaker 2: He does. It's a delivery.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's also changed a lot of how a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different sports conversation has been framed, right, like for
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  Speaker 1: a for a while. And again, people don't like him.
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  Speaker 1: I know some people don't like him. I personally think
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  Speaker 1: he's legendary at it. Like Colin Cowherd came out and
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  Speaker 1: was telling people about how the you know, the twenty
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  Speaker 1: ten Packers were like a blossoming love in high school
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  Speaker 1: that goes off seas or goes away for a summer
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're hot and heavy.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He was trying to tie all these random things in together.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where you had a lot of young guys
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  Speaker 1: being like, Okay, I'm gonna tell you why the Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: Cavaliers are like a bad marriage. They're trying to tie
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  Speaker 1: it all together and do that imitation. There's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of folks and a lot of programmers and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people in sports conversation radio and television alike
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  Speaker 1: that are like, we need to do a stephen A
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  Speaker 1: and Skip Bailey that type of show because that's the
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  Speaker 1: one that's working that And there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: three person shows with a moderator and two people going
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  Speaker 1: after each other that have been framed in that exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great point. And you know how it is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like probably like that in most businesses,
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  Speaker 3: but in our business it can tend to be like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: copycat league, right, like, let's do it works, chase a trend,
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  Speaker 3: what is it?
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  Speaker 2: What's working for people?
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  Speaker 3: And as you know, Billy, a lot of managers in
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  Speaker 3: this business and everyone's fighting for that pie. Say hey,
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  Speaker 3: why can't we be like them down the street. Why
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  Speaker 3: can't we be like they got a new car in
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  Speaker 3: a new yard. Why can't we be like them down
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  Speaker 3: the street? Do what they're doing? Like you go viral?
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  Speaker 3: Do you go viral? You have great segments like that,
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  Speaker 3: you get big numbers like that. What are they doing
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  Speaker 3: there debating? Well, then let's start a debate show and
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  Speaker 3: fight on the air. And then you saw Fox Sports
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  Speaker 3: do it with their shows. You saw everybody try their
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  Speaker 3: own and some work, some don't to a certain extent,
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  Speaker 3: what success is can be defined differently, but yeah, they
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  Speaker 3: did set a whole new and for better or for worse,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't like the embraced yea better
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  Speaker 3: for worse. They set a whole new kind of trend
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  Speaker 3: in that era of sports entertainment media.
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  Speaker 2: Right, what we do with sports media.
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  Speaker 1: And it is always it's always going to evolve and
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be abbs and flows again. Now you know
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  Speaker 1: the parton my take, guys have been the number one
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  Speaker 1: sports podcast for what seven years or so. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of folks being like, we can do exactly what
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  Speaker 1: those guys do, what they do.
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  Speaker 3: Just copy them. But you realize it's like inside the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's like, well, why can't we be like inside the NBA. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's not that easy to just be like Charles Shack.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're not Charles Shack and Kenny.
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  Speaker 1: I did truly enjoy yesterday all of the response to
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  Speaker 1: the incredibly awkward moments on inside the Ends.
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  Speaker 3: People were just coming out with pitchforks man.
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  Speaker 2: Draymond Green was just getting rotisserie chicken.
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  Speaker 3: He was getting it like the Cleveland fan was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for stealing the ball from the girls same situation.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean just like it was a roasted dug.
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  Speaker 2: It was bad, dude. I actually paused.
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  Speaker 1: I did feel bad after one particular point because I
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  Speaker 1: listened to about eighteen different videos that were all saying
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  Speaker 1: really the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, all right, he's already dead. Stop out
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  Speaker 2: of that.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough of it because it was so true,
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  Speaker 1: like not only are you awkward and uncomfortable and can't
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  Speaker 1: laugh at yourself, then also being factually incorrect, a tough
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  Speaker 1: place to a tough place to lift one conversation that
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  Speaker 1: might pop up on the steven a and skip a
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  Speaker 1: list return Jimmy Haslim Yannis Tota Kumbo in that dead
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  Speaker 1: line that Jimmy Haslm put down.
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  Speaker 2: Also reaction yesterday that I was hearing a lot of arman.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you and I had maybe a
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  Speaker 1: different take than a lot of folks did of the
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  Speaker 1: response being to Jimmy Haslm, why are you giving the deadline?
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  Speaker 1: It felt like, and yesterday went in that somebody seemingly
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  Speaker 1: had to be the bad guy, and I feel even
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  Speaker 1: more convicted in it that whatever side ended up being
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  Speaker 1: and what both sides have discussed with each other.
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  Speaker 2: Will never fully know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll never fully know what the conversations good or
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  Speaker 1: bad are between the front office Giannis, Giannis in the
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  Speaker 1: front office's or Gianni's reputation in the front office and ownership.
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  Speaker 2: Although that has gotten murky.
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  Speaker 3: However, there's always a lot of gray area too with
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  Speaker 3: that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've looked at it and seen over the
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  Speaker 1: last number of weeks months at this point that somebody
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  Speaker 1: had to be the bad guy, and nobody really wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's got way too much of a vested interest in this.
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  Speaker 1: Giannis has way too much of a vested interest in
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  Speaker 1: the city way doesn't want to alienate fans. The team
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  Speaker 1: understandably so definitely don't want to alienate their number one
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  Speaker 1: player of all time, one or two best player of
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: all time. But they will hope that he can continually
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: be somebody that for the next forty years, is somebody
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: that can always come back and be honored and regarded
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: and loved and be loved and you can put out
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: in front of folks.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: They want that. Jimmy has them's like, hey guys, I'll
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: be your huckleberry. Yeah, because he has no.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: I got no vested interest in this. He wasn't here
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: when the title was won. He wasn't here for the
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: development of Giannis as a human being.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: He didn't grow up in Milwaii.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: So like I think, as as difficult as it is
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: and right, wrong or indifferent, I believe there is a
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: split coming in both sides at some particular point. Both
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: want it, no one wants to admit it, and whether
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: or not it was spoken or unspoken, Jimmy has them said, Hey, fellas,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: don't worry.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I got y'all here.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Let's figure this out by draft because it's somewhat factually
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: incorrect right where he says he's either gonna sign the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: contract or he's gonna play somewhere else. But then we
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: have to have it decided by June twenty sixth I believe,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: which is the draft. Yeah, but you can't sign the
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: contract until I go to first October Soles. It's a
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: verbal understanding or a verbal commitment or a shared understanding
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: and agreement that he will sign it, right. I don't
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: know that you can do some kind of you know,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: memorandum of understanding.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Is that what it's called that.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Or of understanding or whatever. I don't know if you
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: can do with that bigly binding.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: But I think what you would do is say have
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: one side or have him say it publicly, therefore putting
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: him kind of caught in that public opinion. You know,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't go back because then you look bad looking
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: back on it. So if there's some sort official statement
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: and Giannist came out and said and they agreed to say, hey,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna come out and say I intend to sign
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: in October, It'll be offered and I'll sign it right away,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: which I don't see happening, But if that would be
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: the one thing I'd see, because then you wouldn't want
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: to publicly go back on that and look like the bad.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Guy one hundred per you. That would put you one
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: thousand percent into the fire. Yea, as the bad guy
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: in the villain in the situation has to be the jackpot.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Instead, Now Jimmy Haslam, the guy that nobody has a
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: real connection to, doesn't have a full vested connection outside
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: of you know, a sizable monetary investment in the team.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have that personal connection where it can only
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: be business. And it feels like and especially nationally and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: while some of the national conversation around the Yannish disconnect
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, I think has been a little over exaggerated.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I think some of it's kind of crystal clear. I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: don't think either side wants to be the bad guy.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Somebody had to and say it's put up our shut
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: up time. Jimmy Haslam said, Hey, guys, don't worry. I'll
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: be the one that has no vested interest in this situation.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I'll say the quiet part out loud that everybody kind
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: of needs to know that there's gonna be a shot
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: clock on this bad boy, and we're gonna get a
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: decision that seemingly both sides want but don't want to
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: outline that they want.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: But I also feel like that he wants to play
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: chicken a little bit to still make you, Honest be
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: the one to have to be the refuser, like say no, no, we'll, we'll, we'll,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: we'll let him sign it if he wants it, will
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: give him the deal or we won't.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: But we need a decision one way or the other.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, putting Honest in an acquad position and saying, okay,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: you have to be the one to walk, We're gonna
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: set the whole thing up for you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: To walk out the door.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be more disrespectful if they didn't voice that,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: like I think it would be. I think you would
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: be distasteful and disrespectful to say, like, yeah, but we
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you know, we didn't really offer that, like I think
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: both sides know. Because he can end up signing the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: same money, right, This is where this part of the
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: conversation ends up being different. At the end of this year,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: he can sign the same contract wherever he goes yea
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: six months, he can sign the same contract that he
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: can sign with the Bucks on October first, wherever he
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: would get shipped to. So like, no one's losing money,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: no one's losing out on potential earning power. It seems
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: like the natural, natural split because again, even if you
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: do sign up for another two to three years or
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: what a lot of players have done is signed the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: extension and then a trade, as for a trade a
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: year later to the Bugs are coming on, is not
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: wanting to do which would all based on that stuff.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know that the Bucks should really want to
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: do it armon because again that means another year of
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the conversation, another year of this being the conversation around
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: your organization, cord purgatory potential another year where sure, I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: think there's a potential. Giannis comes out next year wins MPP. Right,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: like his numbers this year went active. If were phenomenal,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: it's just healthy plays, new coach, new energy, new vibe,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: maybe a bunch of new pieces around.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I think you can be phenomenal.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: He could also have a situation that he's had what
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: three of the last five years, be injured at the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: end of the year, another year older walking in and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: all of the money already committed in front of teams.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that's the best time. Like last year.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Similarly to how the Rogers situation ended up playing out
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: for the Packers, they ended up being a year too
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: late on the trade for Rogers, right, wrong or indifferent,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: whatever you thought in the moment. Seattle got all the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: first round picks from Denver, used and hit on all
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of them, won a Super Bowl.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Right, it could have The timing could have been different.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bucks, I think on the sheer value it
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: will look back on and say if they would have
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: traded Giannis a year earlier, they would have gotten sizeably more.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: It is always tough because trading some of the peak
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: of their powers gives you the most value, always gives
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: you the most con intuitive because as when they're playing
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: their best and you're like, we.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Don't want to get rid of this, and that's when
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you think that you could continue to grow, grow and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: build the runway. It does feel though, like right now
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: might be the perfect fork in the road where both
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: sides can say it's been great, it's been fun, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: it has been real fun. But now let's go have
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: some fun and let's do let's reconvene in seven years
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: when your career is over and we can hang the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: banner with.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: You say goodbye and all that stuff.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I keep going back to the trade deadline, when Giannis
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: made as such a puzzle. It's like social media proclamation
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that he wasn't leaving. And I thought that was an
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: interesting deal because I'm like, this is not something he's
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: done in the past, so why he went out of
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: his way to do it now was interesting because I'm like,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: this is a potential backfire if you just leave then
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: in a few months. I still think he wants to
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: try and put the pressure on the organization, and the
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: organization wants to put the pressure on him.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: To finally be the one to say bye.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: And that was just part of the pawn part of
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: the strategicy there with the pond and being the pawn there.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: And that's another kind of you know, fork in the road.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I can say, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna put this here,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: so you look worse by asking me to leave. And
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: then there were some interesting kind of TikTok video that
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: was floating around the internet the last couple of weeks
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: where Giannis was supposedly in a truck telling a fan
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I don't want to go, but they don't want me.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's real or part of
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: it too.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: It just seems like Yiannis doesn't want to be the
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: guy to say it, and the Bucks are also trying
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: to make him be the guy.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: To say it. And there's a little bit of a
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: chicken game of chicken going on.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and that's where again I don't disagree
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: with some of the takes that I saw yesterday of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like why are you putting an artificial deadline on it
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that doesn't have It's an arbitrary deadline, right, because that's.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: What you say, that's stupid. Yeah, they allowed you do that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: This is stupid. You can't do this. I get it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: But again, they want to and I think both sides
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: want to move on, but they don't want to be
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the one to say it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: But no one wants to be the one to say it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And somebody had to.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And at some point there's one guy that had to,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and the one guy that had to just sat down.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And said, I'll leave down right here. I'll go back
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: over to Cleveland. No one's gonna hear.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: No one's gonna hear from me again until October when
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I'm pulling up to the to the first game. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I'll be the one that has to say it out loud.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And also there's something too. You gotta continually get this
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: process rolling right, like you got to get the bidding
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: war started. And while you don't need the first round
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: pick to be in this year's draft in June, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: think everybody wants to know what they're building once free
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: agency rolls around a week later. And I think that's
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the most key part of this conversation. The acquiring teams
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: want to know soon, yeah, because they want to build
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: out their team, and I think the Bucks also want
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to know a little bit sooner than that's interesting.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the longer this goes on though, with no there's
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: always a I think there's always a chance you can
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: come back from it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I think we saw that with Kobe and you're still
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: hold not the hope.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kobe in La was gone until he was it
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: and then he had a whole new so you never know.
• 22:29
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  Speaker 3: I saw someone say that about uh, Jonathan Lucroy, because
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  Speaker 3: that what? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Announce his retirement Bucks Legend Forever and Ever. Amen, PJ Tucker,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Let's hear if who's hot for? PJ Tucker and Pops
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Junior is retiring and it's it's gonna be a hot
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: day for everyone Trying to find their videos of PJ
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: and their phones from twenty.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Twenty one celebration over the Harp, I haven't found yet.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I had a great video of him in his Ferrari
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: sari when I was at the airport at three in
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the morning, and so so far, if you are not hot,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: if you don't find that video. But I don't know
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: how our lives have been different. The Bucks did spend
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: the money to resign and Billy that was a big,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: big thing after the title.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Run, big time, big issue.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I remember he.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Expressed some frustration about it on the internet afterwards in
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: social media. Pops Junior could have been a Buck again.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Would that have changed things? I'm not really sure, but
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of people think think it could have that
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: that was the beginning of the the downslide after the title.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Not sure, but PJ.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Tucker's always going to be a Bucks legend, always gonna
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: be Milwaukee legend.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: He was the last piece needed.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: He was the Andrea Risen if you will, I don't
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: know how you want else do you want to put it?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: But he was that guy to bring them?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Can you?
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: This is this is a fun game on who's hot
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: who's not of What did your tweet mean?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Bring it up at armand Sarian August third, twenty twenty one,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: because I was also thinking that you tweeted out that
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: video there.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Apparently you did not. I'm so mad. But the only other,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the only.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Other PJ Tucker tweet that armand At Arman Sarian had
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: did not look up Arman sarians nipples.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Did you tweet it from that account?
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: That was never my account? It still isn't. I still
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: don't know who had the count, but okay, that was
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: not mine.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize that the level of anger you
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: have for the PJ. Tucker situation seems to be proportionate
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to the age and generation.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: On a sliding scale. Am I wrong here? Kid? You
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: didn't have to watch Ruben Patterson and Brian Skinner. Hmmm,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: awesome trying. So this is a clear gate keeping on
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: fandom aide shaming deal.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: But April April though August August, so this would have
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: been post finals in the wave offseason, so they had
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: probably just said that they were not going to pick
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: up the options. So I think it was I was
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: upset that I was still trying to ride the wave
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: of enjoying, celebrating, basking in the glow of the title,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and people were already getting upset about the Bucks not
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: doing something that they liked, which was not resigning PJ.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: And I think I was getting frustrated with people wanting
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: instant gratification once again, and I'm like, no, no, we've
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: waited a long long.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Time for this.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: If you haven't gone through the depths, you don't know
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: how long we've waited for this, So let me enjoy
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: it more without being negative.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: That must have been kind of where I was going
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Whether or not I was right and doing that you
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: can debate. I think I just think that was what
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: the pathology was.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, you were just mad at how people weren't embracing
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and celebrating the title.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I was like stopping two weeks later, stopping, Yeah,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: two weeks that I need more time than that to
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: celebrate a world championship. All that's why, that's why you
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: didn't get back. That's and that's a fair point. Maybe
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: that's part of the reason you got to be able
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to move on. Think about the next no arm and
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: we have to be vigilant. What's your favorite super Bowl?
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: The next one, the next one? Okay, seeing maybe I
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: rest I don't know. I was ready to rest on.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Our laurels a little bit too much.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe, But I can't say I'm I'm regretting that because
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I do feel like it was a once and I
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: don't want to say lifetime because I hope he went again.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: But it was a very rare situation to that point.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: It was to that point, it was once in a
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: lifetime years and I'm like, I will be damned if
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to soak up every piece of juice
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: out of this piece of fruit.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: That that being said, I think you look back and
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: you say, well, that was something we could have done
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: to Maybe.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if it would have.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Changed, could have been for one instance, And I think
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: this is where when you look at how the Bucks,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you know, fall happens and win, indeed, like the total
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: shift and how it because I mean, like how the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: change happens. The league shifted and and the Bucks were
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: in a different spot of it because when the Warriors
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: win the title in twenty two, the year that the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Bucks almost would have had the opportunity to repeat if
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: they would have been able to close out in Game six,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe PJ. Tucker would have held
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Jason Tatum to under forty six points. And that's a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: specific question, like could he have a Pacific game? Could
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: he have helped you in that game to win that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: series and go to the conference finals. Yeah, it's a great,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: great argument to be made that he could have very
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: much the way he plays, and so like that, when
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that goes down, and the conversation after and all off
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: season long is how do we stop teams from just
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: spending double the salary cap in luxury tax rates and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: try to buy titles like the Warriors kind of did.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: The league shifted and the new Collective Boring Agreement allowed
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and the second Apron rules came in, and well, first
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Apron and second Apron rules came in, but the second
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Apron was the true debilitating one where you're unable to
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: really build out your roster and add at all if
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you're in there with max contracts and and the Bucks
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: then made the move after the twenty three season to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: bring in another super max contract guy, and that's when
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the league had shifted away to you got to build
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: through young players, draft and cost consciousness because you're not
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to add and like so, I don't
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: necessarily know. I think in twenty two, Arman definitely helps them,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: might have almost made it stickier and worse when those
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: new Apron rules came in, because remember it was whatever
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: it was like three years and thirty million dollars. They
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: were gonna have to pay three years forty million dollars,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: but the contract was gonna be damn near double because
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of how much you were gonna pay in luxury taxes
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: But not our money, not my money. I don't really
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: care it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I think that's how most fans look at the money,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: is like you would have paid it's all fun.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Just made a bunch of money.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I just watched what the stadium be ridiculously full and
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the year this should be littered and people actually go
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: into the mecca like I before Mark sold the stake, right,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: so you were making cuny hand over fist.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: They wanted you to spend some of that to try
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and win another.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Chand but once then the new April rules came in,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I think it might have made it even more difficult.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: However, then you know, you really start going down the
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: sliding style. Does does that prohibit you from making the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: damial atherer trade? Yeah?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: But does that but does that ultimately help you more
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: instead of bringing in a guy that ultimately gets hurt
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and cutting the round like there's there's so much that
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that then changes potentially or they still.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Losing six to the Celtics in the second round.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And then you're even more strapped for cash and you
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: struggle and then it's an uglier blow up.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: At that point.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And the legitimate Bucks window was still there the next
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: two years, so then it was like did that start
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: some sort of negativity vibe wise too? Some people believe
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: in that that like there was a there was a
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: culture shift there and because of that, you know, you
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: didn't you also lost to the eight seed Heat and
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: all these things, and that was sort of like closing
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: the door some ways on that window. I don't really know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: but you can BJ had a good year that year
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: for the Heat, if I remember. I mean, he was
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: also scoring the ball to He was obviously huge in
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: those playoff moments.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: So you look back and you wonder one way or
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the other.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: But the one thing most fans don't look back and say,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: is well, I worry about the money, because fans are
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: worrying about owners money.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And in all reality, Tucker was good in that first
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: year that he was in Miami. Then when he goes
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to Philadelphia started to started to really slide.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: He's still I.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Mean that year in Miami he shot over forty percent
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: from three.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he hit the best offensive year, but that was
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: never his true value to the buck. It was and
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: defense was in here, right, the culture shift, the the
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: you know, the the leadership, all that sea dog we
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: got dogs, the toughness, all that stuff. So you know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know, we can't go back and rehash history.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: We'll never really know.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: But I would really like for you to be able
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to go back though, and actually find the video. I
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: think if you can find your video, PJ. Tucker, I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: would very much appreciate.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: How did I not say that? Like, it's gotta be
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: something year old PC. Maybe maybe it's a it was
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: a phone video, but maybe it is.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Did I say it? Back it up somewhere. I'm gonna
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do some work on it, all right, Armon's
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: gonna do some work on that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap up who's hot, who's not with this,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: who's hot and potentially not? Did you see the Duke
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: basketball deal with Amazon Prime, Armin.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think I did.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Billy Duke Basketball and Amazon Prime a exclusive partnership for
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Amazon to air three games, three Marquee Duke basketball games,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and a landmark contract that happened within the last week.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: But it's the.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: First time Amazon has dipped its toe into college basketball,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and they get three games. The Duke Yukon game in
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Vegas on November t twenty fifth, the game again Duke
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: hosting Michigan at Madison Square Garden on December twenty first,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: and Duke Gonzaga in Detroit on February twentieth. So kind
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: of like three big games, three games that you definitely
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: want and now there is a super special fight going
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: on because the Big ten is saying, I excuse us,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, we have the we have that Michigan game. Yeah,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: we need to be getting a cut from that Michigan game.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: You can't be selling this exclusive deal. We got Duke
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: in here trying to pump in Dare I say a
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: little private equity money here from Amazon Prime getting a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame style television broadcasting deal in basketball?
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: They're the original ones, I mean Norre Dame when they
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: got their own TV deal. They were the original ones.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: And hey, why isn't this the next level of nil
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: money shaking? I mean, why isn't you know Duke can
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: do this, right are they? They're within their rights to
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: do this, and if they people want the product.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: From what from? All The indications are that the move
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: will raise myybrows around college sports, themill continues, but it
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: could end up being a harbinger of the future, as
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: streamers are expected to be more aggressive in acquiring rights
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to upcoming collegiate sports, which makes sense wea Sports Conversations.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Duke worked with ACC and ESPN on future scheduling commitments
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: in exchange for the ability to play these three neutral
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: site games, including participating in select ESPN owned and operated
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: neutral site events in twenty eight, twenty nine.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: And you know what, it makes sense because live sports
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: is what brings it, you know. And for streaming companies,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: they want subscribers. They need people to in some way
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: or the other. Even though frustrated sports fans, what's gonna
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: stop Yukon from saying, wait, what about why can't.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: We do this? One hundred percent?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Can't we do this? Why can't we do this? It
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter who it is. It could be Quibbi or
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Wibi or whoever it is.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Well, you want to talk about the brand loyalty and
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the brand specific love for different teams and different colleges.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: That is heavy.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: And if the brands can go and negotiate their own rights,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough one for the conference and conferences, right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's gonna be a tough one for
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the revenue sharing and conferences.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a that's a fascinating one. But Duke, shockingly
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the rich get richer. I mean, of course, it's the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Duke's the brand.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be Duke, the Yankees, Cowboys and Lakers that
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: can just package it all in one because they can
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: get all those same fans of the exact same teams.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Call it the casual. Did you throw the Dodgers in there? Dodgers?
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe Dodgers, well notre Dames already gotten well, Dodgers are making.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Enough money they might not even need one. Yeah, No,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: it'll probably be the end.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: If the Dodgers aren't going international, they're not taking it.
• 37:28
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