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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, September 12 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years and Jaguars the dawn on the
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Speaker 1: road in Pittsburgh in the snow, it's cold, and you
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Speaker 1: aren't the Steelers. It is Thursday, September twelve. This is
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. Hey, now, a guy who lies away
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Speaker 1: good night wondering why there's no period after the d
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Speaker 1: R in Dr Pepper. J. P. Shad Rick, I'll take that,
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Speaker 1: I guess. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I laughed sometimes to Leon. J P. Shadwick. That's Lee
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Speaker 1: un certus, Jeff Lockman with us. It's fellows. Good to
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Speaker 1: be with you, to be here, great, there's great to
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Speaker 1: see you guys. Game week Nenna. Put that Kansas City
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Speaker 1: in the rear view and look ahead to Houston. That's
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Speaker 1: what's gonna get it out of here. We're not gonna
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Speaker 1: do that. We're not. We're gonna look back. We are well.
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Speaker 1: In order to look ahead, you have to be able
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Speaker 1: to understand what happened. Happened to understand your past, move
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Speaker 1: along into future. This is deep thoughts today. Uh we
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Speaker 1: don't we don't. We don't have the twenty four hour
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Speaker 1: rule applied to us. So here we go. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: go through it and then we'll look ahead as well.
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Speaker 1: Here is what's coming up on the show today. Menshew
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Speaker 1: Mania is taking over. You're seeing headbands. I'm sure there'll
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Speaker 1: be some mustaches grown. If the Jags went on Sunday
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Speaker 1: in Houston defensive questions, well they look like that again
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Speaker 1: this week. Is this too early for a must win?
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Speaker 1: I say yeah, still, but it's a big football game.
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Speaker 1: They need it. And we'll go around the league as well.
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Speaker 1: Some big stories from around the National Football League. Let's
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Speaker 1: start with menshu Mania. We heard from the Jaguars starting
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Speaker 1: quarterback earlier this week, and he's had quite a road
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Speaker 1: to get to the National Football League, a long college career,
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Speaker 1: a number of different stops and how those have built
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Speaker 1: him into the leader he can be. Is it was
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Speaker 1: interesting to hear him say that story this week. I
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Speaker 1: learned a lot of things, you know, going to different
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Speaker 1: schools and learn the right way to step in and
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Speaker 1: try to lead, and that's through going in and earning
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Speaker 1: respect and not demanding respect. You know, you know, earning
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Speaker 1: you know, with how you work with your study habits,
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Speaker 1: everything like that, instead of just going in and talking
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Speaker 1: and being loud um, so it's been one thing that's
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Speaker 1: every well, I feel like to the whole crew. So
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Speaker 1: thence you has been in so many places and has
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Speaker 1: moved around so much. You see if you're watching on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, the long list from high school four
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Speaker 1: years ago, uh, to the NFL and now starting in
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Speaker 1: the National Football League after filling in admirably last week.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable story. You know, it really is. The
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Speaker 1: guy has been all over the place here. Yeah. You know,
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Speaker 1: initially going into the game, I thought he was playing
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Speaker 1: with house money. You know, he was the backup quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles got hurt. Do you have anything to lose
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Speaker 1: if he if he had won the game, it would
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Speaker 1: have been big time if he had lost the game. Well,
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Speaker 1: he's a backup. But this week is different. This week
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Speaker 1: he gets the local attention, gets the national attention. There's
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Speaker 1: no more scout team reps. He's working with the ones.
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Speaker 1: The coach is gonna be a little bit more tight
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Speaker 1: on his study, you know, his film study, what he
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Speaker 1: doesn't practice and all that kind of stuff. So but
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Speaker 1: I like the kid. The kid is handled it well.
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Speaker 1: He's heading and everything in stride, and hopefully that translates
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Speaker 1: to him playing good on Sunday. Now there's no house
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Speaker 1: money this week in Houston, I can tell you different.
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Speaker 1: The game plan is gonna be built for him. It's
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Speaker 1: gonna be UH an environment that he's probably never seen before.
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Speaker 1: And there's a defense in Houston that is hurting a
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Speaker 1: little bit from Monday night to where they didn't get
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Speaker 1: the job done against the Saints team when they had
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Speaker 1: him basically pinned down and then they let him back
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Speaker 1: up with about twenty seconds left in the ballgame. You know. So, look,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the numbers are, but I'm sure
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Speaker 1: that they have numbers somewhere for a rookie quarterbacks first
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Speaker 1: career start that was on the road, and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: the stats aren't very good. I mean that's the reality.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is UH. Even though he looks like
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Speaker 1: he's cool and calm and collected and nothing's too big
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Speaker 1: for him, this is a big deal and UH, and
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Speaker 1: the numbers aren't very very helpful for a young quarterback
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Speaker 1: in this situation. No, I was, you know, um, the
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Speaker 1: reason why I think the reason I had so much
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Speaker 1: success against k C because I don't think k C
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Speaker 1: didn't get game plan for Garden the menshew, the whole
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Speaker 1: idea was behind Nick Foles. So when he came in
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Speaker 1: and they had no film on him, so he can
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Speaker 1: go out there and just run him up, you know,
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Speaker 1: playground football, do what he never needs to do. I
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Speaker 1: think this week Romeo Correll, who's a Super Bowl champion
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Speaker 1: defense coordinator, he's going to have a plan. He's going
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Speaker 1: to have a plan. How he reacts to that plan.
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Speaker 1: The disguises of coverage is that you know, they're blitz
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Speaker 1: schemes and all that kind of stuff. I want to
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Speaker 1: end in the hostile environment, you know, So if he's
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Speaker 1: able to, if he's able to play well in that
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Speaker 1: kind of environment with Romeo care having film on him, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean we we we we always
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Speaker 1: talk about that, you know that is there a book
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Speaker 1: on a guy to where you've got film and can
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Speaker 1: coordinators prepare for a rookie coordinator or a rookie quarterback.
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Speaker 1: I think the book is probably not written yet on
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback when you only have not even a
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Speaker 1: whole game. But here's the reality. They don't want a book.
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Speaker 1: They don't need a book. The one thing that they
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Speaker 1: know he's a rookie. And now they compare it can
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Speaker 1: prepare a game plan for because Romeo Cornell has been
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Speaker 1: around the National Football League and he's got all these
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Speaker 1: books on the shelf right and there's one leon and
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Speaker 1: you know what it says, rookie first start, he's gonna
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Speaker 1: he's gonna grab that book off the bookshelf and he's
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Speaker 1: gonna go, Okay, we're gonna yeah, this is the game
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Speaker 1: planning right here. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: go against the rookie. This is all of our blitz.
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Speaker 1: Is this is a different multiple pack. It is that
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have these are disguises and uh, and we'll
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Speaker 1: see how he does. That's what they're gonna do. And
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Speaker 1: and and they shouldn't be surprised the jack I know
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff is dirt expecting the same thing. And
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Speaker 1: the question is is Ken Gardner minshow handle that? Uh?
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Speaker 1: If you look at the track record of one game experience,
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Speaker 1: you go, yeah, they might be able to handle if
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Speaker 1: you can do that all the time. And you go
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Speaker 1: back and you look at history, and most quarterbacks in
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Speaker 1: that situation have not handled it. And then you also
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Speaker 1: look at Gardner Minshew's performance that I'm sure that they've
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Speaker 1: looked at in the preseason. They're gonna look at some
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Speaker 1: of that and go they probably can't handle that. So
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. I know this. The Jaguars defense
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Speaker 1: better play well, not like they did against Kansas City.
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Speaker 1: The running game better play well and uh and they
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Speaker 1: better protect him because it's gonna be a tall task
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Speaker 1: to get a rookie quarterback to get a win in
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Speaker 1: that environment, that tough game, division game on the road,
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Speaker 1: coming off the loss last week. But he had guys
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Speaker 1: around him step up and play well. Also. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, the receivers in that game last week played
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Speaker 1: very well. Second second year player, you know Deeed. He
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Speaker 1: had a couple of catches, not as many as he
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Speaker 1: would have liked. Chris Connelly came through with what we
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Speaker 1: expected and thought about he could do in the preseason.
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Speaker 1: He did in that game. So he had help around
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Speaker 1: and they rallied around him to really help him get comfortable.
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Speaker 1: As I thought, first and foremost, I thought Lee on
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Speaker 1: the offensive line did a really good job. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if if you take away penalties, which can't because the
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Speaker 1: penalties didn't help him any. But protecting the quarterback. I
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Speaker 1: thought they did a pretty solid job. I thought they
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Speaker 1: ran the ball fairly effectively. Will Richardson I thought played
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Speaker 1: his rear end off quite simply, and I didn't expect
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Speaker 1: that because you've never seen him play left tackle. He's
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Speaker 1: never played left tackle before. And I thought Joan Taylor
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Speaker 1: played pretty good. Now, is there a room for those
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Speaker 1: guys to get better? Sure, but for for that offensive
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Speaker 1: line to go against Kansas City and the new defense,
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Speaker 1: and I thought you got everything you were hoping for
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeahs. As much as we talk about
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Speaker 1: Gardener Misue in this game, he's got to have a
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Speaker 1: great supporting cast around them. Offensive line's gotta play well.
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Speaker 1: Like Jeff was alluding to, receivers gotta get separation. They
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Speaker 1: gotta find holes in his zone to get open. Lennis
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Speaker 1: gotta do what he did. He had a good game,
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Speaker 1: you know. I I saw the fumble. I mean he
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Speaker 1: was very productive, run the ball, catching the ball at
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Speaker 1: the backfield. So Gardener Mishue is the rookie quarterback, but
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Speaker 1: the surrounding pieces around them got to be just as
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Speaker 1: effective in this week they were last week. I heck,
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Speaker 1: if he comes out and he plays. He's rare and off.
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Speaker 1: I may rock the headband next week on the show. Wow,
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Speaker 1: I mean that's about that. I mean this is this
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Speaker 1: is not an easy task, you know, so I look,
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Speaker 1: I hope that the offensive line continues to play well.
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Speaker 1: I know that Cam Robinson ended up practicing yesterday on
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Speaker 1: a limited basis. Could that help them out a little bit? Maybe?
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Speaker 1: Uh does that make them better? I don't know about that.
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Speaker 1: I think it makes him better right guard? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Cam is back playing. I don't know if it and
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Speaker 1: when he came out it just came out a moment ago.
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Speaker 1: For today he was limited again today Cam Robinson. Yeah, Well,
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Speaker 1: if the sentiment is, if the sentiment is to have
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Speaker 1: the best five guys on the field, then Robinson there
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Speaker 1: left and richardson that right guard, because what's richardson, my
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Speaker 1: belief is better than Can. But if you've got a
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Speaker 1: guy like Will Richards who plays so effectively at left
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Speaker 1: at left tackle, why do you move them? No reason?
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Speaker 1: I mean, Can Robinson has only played six players that's
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Speaker 1: a season, so you keep if he's playing well, they
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Speaker 1: don't move them, you know, But then but then you're
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Speaker 1: you're you're you're minimizing yourself at right guard, because anytime
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Speaker 1: Can goes up against somebody, it's a clear mismatch. Well
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Speaker 1: it was, it was definitely a mismatch. Christ First of all,
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Speaker 1: he's one of the two best defensive tackle pass rushers
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, you know, so that's that's
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Speaker 1: a that's a tough ask for anybody. And I mean,
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Speaker 1: how many defensive tackles in the history of the NFL
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Speaker 1: have had eleven games consecutive with a sack? I mean,
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Speaker 1: not Aaron do, I mean anybody. I mean, that's that's unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: So that's a And he's a big, strong guy. And
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Speaker 1: then a J you know, didn't fare very well on
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Speaker 1: a couple of snaps and that's Look, that's that's why
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Speaker 1: Chris Jones is Chris Jones. I mean, he's a great player.
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Speaker 1: He makes a lot of people look bad, not just
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Speaker 1: a J can on that one play. And and it's
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Speaker 1: unfortunate that that a J gave up that one shot
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Speaker 1: that Nick Foles took. But but you know, that's that's
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Speaker 1: the way it is. And here's the other thing. Why
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Speaker 1: why the league has not find Chris Jones on that
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Speaker 1: I'm shocked, shocked, I mean that is leon is that
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Speaker 1: I'm you're an offensive line, I'm a defensive line. And
10:56
Speaker 1: so we got two different perspectives from each side of
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Speaker 1: the ball. Here a former. We got to put the
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Speaker 1: word former there because we don't do it anymore. But
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Speaker 1: was that not the classic old school fold the quarterback,
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Speaker 1: land on top of him and try to separate the shoulder.
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Speaker 1: Was that? Yeah? To my understanding is that when you
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Speaker 1: take a quarterback down and you put your entire weight
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Speaker 1: down on his shoulder, or if you pick him up
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Speaker 1: and drive. He didn't pick him up, but he he
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Speaker 1: folded him and fell on top of his body. So
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Speaker 1: according to the rules, you can't do that. The quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: mass majority would get hurt that way. It's not The
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Speaker 1: outcome was still the same. They scored a touchdown, he broke.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to change anything to be changed. I'm
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Speaker 1: just saying that the league needs to recognize that that is,
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Speaker 1: in fact, exactly what they've been preaching. That is not
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Speaker 1: allowable anymore. We ask you this, how much does John d.
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Speaker 1: Filippo really have to do different with Minshew in there now?
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Speaker 1: It seems like that, you know, talking to him today,
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Speaker 1: hearing them talk today, they're pretty confident in what Gardner
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Speaker 1: can handle, but it is gonna look a little different. Well,
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Speaker 1: from what I understand, he can handle the mental part
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Speaker 1: of it without any issue whatsoever. But here's the reality.
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Speaker 1: We saw Gardner Minshew throw the football in the preseason
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Speaker 1: and not just one game. And what did we see.
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Speaker 1: We we saw at times to where the arm strength
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Speaker 1: wasn't quite what you wanted it to be. So does
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Speaker 1: John d. Filippo go, Okay, here's here's a couple of
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Speaker 1: pages out of our playbook that we had open for
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles that maybe Gardner doesn't have the arm strength
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Speaker 1: to throw. So maybe do we back that out? Maybe
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Speaker 1: do we add in some other things that are the short,
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Speaker 1: uh short, the short intermediate stuff. Minshew does seem to
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Speaker 1: throw the deep ball pretty well, but those longer things
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Speaker 1: that require a little bit of zip and uh, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to do that great. So you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe that's what they do. But I mean mentally, I
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Speaker 1: think from what they talked about it, he can handle everything. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I here here's the other thing. This is the
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Speaker 1: first road trip and he's the starter. Is he gonna
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Speaker 1: rock the outfit that he woted? The scene your bawl.
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Speaker 1: That would be uh, that would be what I'm seen
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Speaker 1: that that would be gutsy. Let's say that. I think
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Speaker 1: Colflin would love it. Uh, it would be interesting. You
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Speaker 1: got you think. For those that are wondering, just just
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Speaker 1: search Google search Gardner Minshew Senior ball plane. Well, guess
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Speaker 1: what just here? And we had Chris Conley on the
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Speaker 1: show yesterday and hearing Leonard for that in the locker room.
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Speaker 1: Guess what If you wear a headband, tight eyed headband
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Speaker 1: and cut off jean shorts, you can do anything any
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Speaker 1: of that you want when you're throwing, passing, you know,
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Speaker 1: And that's fine. That's how oorks. And we'll see if
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Speaker 1: he can get that done this week. We'll come back
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Speaker 1: we're far from writing the book at this point in time.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, we need to respond and
18:31
Speaker 1: we need to come out and play. Um, you know,
18:33
Speaker 1: they're gonna make some plays. We're gonna make some plays,
18:35
Speaker 1: but we can't give up the stuff that we gave
18:37
Speaker 1: up on Sunday. Yeah, and they gave up a lot
18:40
Speaker 1: of yardage and a lot of points on Sunday. Where
18:42
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18:45
Speaker 1: this week? The mental errors, I think that's where you
18:47
Speaker 1: gotta start. A lot of people have criticized Todd Walsh
18:53
Speaker 1: and say, well, you know what's what's wrong with his scheme? Well,
18:56
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with his scheme when it's run. Well, well,
19:00
Speaker 1: here's the reality. The Jaguars defensive coordinator, Todd Walsh called
19:04
Speaker 1: a lot of what is called quarters defense, which is
19:07
Speaker 1: for D three underneath for D. If you're drawing up
19:10
Speaker 1: a defense to try to prevent big plays, that's the
19:14
Speaker 1: perfect defense. I mean, that's that's as good as it gets.
19:18
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna get past you, nobody's gonna get behind you.
19:20
Speaker 1: And the whole reason that they played that was because
19:23
Speaker 1: they knew that Kansas City had game breaking speed with
19:27
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins. To some extent, Yes, you
19:30
Speaker 1: can criticize on that. Uh huh, I know, I know
19:33
Speaker 1: where you're gonna go with that at some point. I
19:35
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. But that's what you would
19:37
Speaker 1: want to play. And they had a couple of things happened.
19:41
Speaker 1: One was miss tackles. Okay, the very first Sammy Watkins
19:44
Speaker 1: big play, you have two guys that have an opportunity
19:47
Speaker 1: to make a tackle, one THEMS Ronnie Harrison, and he
19:51
Speaker 1: comes up out of control. And then the second guy
19:53
Speaker 1: on that same very play is Jalen Ramsey and he
19:55
Speaker 1: said he's caught flatfoot. I mean, one of those two
19:58
Speaker 1: guys just make a tackle. Then you line and you
20:00
Speaker 1: play more downs. You're not giving up a sixty eight
20:01
Speaker 1: yard quick score on the third play of the game.
20:05
Speaker 1: And then later on you have guys that are running
20:07
Speaker 1: wide open. The one Sammy Watkins to where he caught
20:09
Speaker 1: when he was over on the Chiefs bench and went
20:11
Speaker 1: underneath and catches it and there's nobody within ten yards
20:16
Speaker 1: I think, not in a half yards. What TV stopped
20:17
Speaker 1: it and showed that that was a mental error because
20:21
Speaker 1: somebody vacated his zone that shouldn't have vacated his zone.
20:24
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you fix those things, okay, and
20:27
Speaker 1: then you got a chance. But if you don't fix
20:28
Speaker 1: those things, there's the big play right there. If you
20:31
Speaker 1: don't fix those plays, then then you don't have a chance.
20:34
Speaker 1: And that's all. That's all that happened at the end. Well,
20:43
Speaker 1: here's the thing that the Chiefs would a number one
20:45
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL last year for a reason. All right,
20:47
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that to a lot of teams. But
20:49
Speaker 1: you can't help yourself with lot one was just talked about.
20:51
Speaker 1: You don't help yourself when you're out of position, when
20:53
Speaker 1: you undisciplined, when you're playing man when you should be
20:56
Speaker 1: playing zone, the zone when you should be playing man.
20:58
Speaker 1: So all those things, all those key elements tie into
21:02
Speaker 1: giving up forty points and giving up almost five on
21:04
Speaker 1: the y'alls of offense. If you stayed disciplined and get
21:07
Speaker 1: your angles and your techniques and your fundamentals, you give
21:10
Speaker 1: yourself a chance. But you can't. You just can't have
21:14
Speaker 1: wide open space where receivers are running through it. Like
21:18
Speaker 1: you said, quarters is designed to prevent the big play.
21:21
Speaker 1: And if you if you're out of position, if you're
21:23
Speaker 1: overrunning plays and stuff like that, you'll give it your
21:25
Speaker 1: your opening up the lane for big plays that happen
21:28
Speaker 1: on your defense. Now you gotta fix that first. I mean,
21:30
Speaker 1: and look, they worked on it today. They said they
21:33
Speaker 1: did some extra tackling stuff on pads today, and well
21:38
Speaker 1: the other thing too, and you're tackling. I mean, that's
21:41
Speaker 1: good because the angles weren't very good. The safety play
21:46
Speaker 1: wasn't very good. We all kind of wrote that off
21:47
Speaker 1: like it wasn't gonna be an issue at all for
21:49
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defensively this year. But the reality is that
21:52
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison had eight career starts prior to prior of
21:55
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday as a big nickel exactly one
21:59
Speaker 1: of even at safety, and Jared Wilson had I think
22:02
Speaker 1: all of two maybe three career starts, so and that's
22:05
Speaker 1: not a lot of experience for your two safeties. But
22:08
Speaker 1: the reality is it wasn't just them. I mean, you're
22:11
Speaker 1: all Pro cornerback. Jalen Ramsey didn't have a very good day.
22:14
Speaker 1: Uh A, j boy, your other former Pro Bowl cornerback
22:18
Speaker 1: from two years ago. Didn't play very well either, Miles
22:22
Speaker 1: Jack uh didn't play very well prior to get him
22:25
Speaker 1: getting ejected, which is to me, that's not very good either.
22:28
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a team captain. It's two years in
22:29
Speaker 1: a row. You've got a captain get ejected from a
22:31
Speaker 1: ball game. And Uh, I was hoping that they were
22:34
Speaker 1: kind of passed that. Now they got to prove that
22:35
Speaker 1: they are, because right now they're not. But a big topic.
22:39
Speaker 1: And you gotta also understand that this defense was embarrassed,
22:43
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, and I'm hopefully that
22:45
Speaker 1: the coaching staff laid it on them in the funeral
22:48
Speaker 1: because if they had just played subpar in the in
22:53
Speaker 1: the game against Casey, we give ourselves a fighting chance.
22:56
Speaker 1: But they didn't. They didn't even play subpart with all
22:59
Speaker 1: the expectation is going into the season with this defense,
23:02
Speaker 1: you know, with Josh Allen and Calais back and unique
23:05
Speaker 1: inspired because the last year of his contract and all
23:07
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, you thought they were, you know,
23:09
Speaker 1: you thought this doll was gonna be ready to eat,
23:11
Speaker 1: and it didn't. So here's their opportunity now. And I'm
23:14
Speaker 1: gonna tell you another thing about the front four. There's
23:17
Speaker 1: nothing more from frustrating. I'm pretty sure loggingman can attest
23:20
Speaker 1: it there. There's nothing more frustrating to a defensive player
23:22
Speaker 1: offensive defensive player who's getting up filling the quarterback is
23:25
Speaker 1: getting rid of football now, you know, getting rid of
23:27
Speaker 1: the football where and that's what my Homes does, Patrick
23:29
Speaker 1: Mahomes get rid of gets rid of football. But you
23:31
Speaker 1: can't stop rushing. You gotta still get up in there.
23:34
Speaker 1: And then they're gonna have a tremendous opportunity this Sunday
23:36
Speaker 1: because the offensive line, quite frankly, with the Houston Texas
23:39
Speaker 1: is terrible. They're not very good, but they're not very
23:41
Speaker 1: good at the one thing that I said there and go,
23:43
Speaker 1: wait a minute, here, here's I don't want to say
23:45
Speaker 1: it's the same exact thing of what you had against
23:47
Speaker 1: Camas City. But you've got three legitimate guys that can
23:49
Speaker 1: go deep for the Houston Texans. You've got Stills Will four,
23:53
Speaker 1: who appears by all purposes be back from his A
23:55
Speaker 1: C L. And then obviously the one of the best
23:58
Speaker 1: wide receivers in all the football, DeAndre Hopkins, with a
24:02
Speaker 1: quarterback that is tough as nails, will hold onto the
24:05
Speaker 1: ball a little extra and and be willing to take
24:07
Speaker 1: a hit to throw the ball down the field. He
24:08
Speaker 1: better be tough as nails the way he's been getting
24:10
Speaker 1: hit the last I mean part of part of that
24:12
Speaker 1: is and people talk about the Houston offensive line, and
24:16
Speaker 1: that is true. I mean, trust me, the right side
24:18
Speaker 1: of the Texans just got done watching the film. The
24:21
Speaker 1: right side of the offensive line is not very good.
24:24
Speaker 1: Larrymy thumpsil is so new it didn't look like he
24:27
Speaker 1: knew exactly what he had to do in all situations.
24:30
Speaker 1: Because he has five days in with a new football
24:33
Speaker 1: team and he's getting a start at left tackle. That
24:35
Speaker 1: can't be easy. And uh, and then the simple fact
24:39
Speaker 1: is that DeAndre Hopp I mean, excuse me, Deshaun Watson
24:42
Speaker 1: holds onto the ball longer than any quarterback in the league.
24:46
Speaker 1: So that's why he takes a lot of hits. I mean, yes,
24:49
Speaker 1: it's the offensive line, but it's also partly on him
24:53
Speaker 1: style or whatever he plays, just because he he does
24:55
Speaker 1: hold on the ball for a long time. We started
24:57
Speaker 1: this segment with du Maron talking about, Hey don't know
25:00
Speaker 1: who's gonna be playing for some the defensive line this week,
25:02
Speaker 1: and that's been a topic all week long, and Niken
25:04
Speaker 1: got Quay did not practice again today. Calais Campbell did
25:08
Speaker 1: not practice yesterday, he was limited today, and Todd wash
25:12
Speaker 1: was actually quoted in his press conference today saying he
25:14
Speaker 1: was confident both guys would go, but we'll see what
25:17
Speaker 1: happens on that front. They'd love to have Marcel Darius back,
25:20
Speaker 1: and Darius was limited both yesterday and today with the
25:23
Speaker 1: elbow issue, but was back out there. That's the good news.
25:27
Speaker 1: We'll find out tomorrow their official game status, and that
25:30
Speaker 1: certainly would change some things. If you're missing one, two,
25:34
Speaker 1: or three of those guys up front of this defensive line,
25:37
Speaker 1: you know don't need that at all. Just shaking your head,
25:40
Speaker 1: that's how you can say, well, you gotta have these
25:42
Speaker 1: guys playing well. You want to have your your best
25:46
Speaker 1: guys play in order to be at your best against
25:50
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans with a rookie quarterback got in your team,
25:54
Speaker 1: you need to have a great defensive effort. And if
25:57
Speaker 1: you don't have your guys, Leon talks about your dogs,
26:01
Speaker 1: if they won't eat or if they won't hunt, the
26:03
Speaker 1: two terms we talk about with the dogs. Uh, if
26:07
Speaker 1: they can't do that, Uh, everybody's going hungry. It's not
26:12
Speaker 1: good for the entire defense as a whole. So you know,
26:15
Speaker 1: and look, it was the loss of Marcel Darius this
26:19
Speaker 1: past week significant. I think it was to some extent
26:23
Speaker 1: because and and here's why you want Marcel Darius playing
26:27
Speaker 1: this week, because if he doesn't play this week, then
26:31
Speaker 1: Claius chicks down to the three technique again because you
26:34
Speaker 1: don't have confidence in Tavin Bryan, which that can be
26:38
Speaker 1: a whole another conversation. Yes, okay, but the Texans right tackle,
26:42
Speaker 1: which is Central Henderson, I'm gonna tell you right now,
26:48
Speaker 1: I won't say that. Let me say put it this way.
26:52
Speaker 1: He doesn't even come close to even even holding Leon.
26:58
Speaker 1: Seriously's jock is a right tackle w his day. I mean,
27:01
Speaker 1: this guy is not good. He was the culprit on
27:06
Speaker 1: seventy five of the place for the Houston Texans. So
27:10
Speaker 1: what do you want to do. Do you want to
27:11
Speaker 1: have Clay's Campbell lined up in the inside as a
27:13
Speaker 1: three technique or do you want to have Clay's Campbell
27:15
Speaker 1: lined up as a left defensive end for the most part,
27:18
Speaker 1: lining up against central Henderson. I want Clays on seventy
27:21
Speaker 1: six all day long and here, and I want Josh
27:27
Speaker 1: Allen on him too. I want him to take turns
27:29
Speaker 1: on that guy because he's not very good. So they'll
27:33
Speaker 1: help him. Though they didn't help him last week. They
27:36
Speaker 1: didn't know. No, they didn't help him. I couldn't believe it.
27:40
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. Wow. And he's a kne so
27:45
Speaker 1: so you know, wondering wh Yeah, I didn't even he
27:59
Speaker 1: obviously and call me for advice. Wow. They also have
28:04
Speaker 1: a center, Nick Martin, who they just gave like an
28:08
Speaker 1: eleven million dollar a year extension to Is he that good? No,
28:15
Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's a he's an average player
28:19
Speaker 1: and uh, he's a little stiff. And when I saw
28:25
Speaker 1: that they just gave him eleven million here extension, I
28:28
Speaker 1: went wow. Wow. So Ever, if there ever was a
28:35
Speaker 1: game where our defense could bounce back against that front
28:39
Speaker 1: and and Tunsil is still new to the program in
28:44
Speaker 1: Houston and he has uh Calamte. I think it's how
28:48
Speaker 1: you say his name. I think he played next to him.
28:52
Speaker 1: They put Titus Howard as a starter, but I thought
28:55
Speaker 1: it was Calimente who was playing in the game. It
28:58
Speaker 1: was I think they're moving him to guard this week,
29:00
Speaker 1: yeah Howard, Yeah, the first round pick. Yeah. So and
29:04
Speaker 1: if that's the case, now you got what's the turn,
29:07
Speaker 1: little fresh meat over there at left guard and with
29:11
Speaker 1: a veteran that hasn't been with the Texans very long.
29:15
Speaker 1: And it was very clear that any time they ran
29:17
Speaker 1: a game which is a pass rush stunt or a
29:21
Speaker 1: game whatever you want to call it, where they're mixing
29:22
Speaker 1: up the e T s and the t ease where
29:24
Speaker 1: the looping and and are coming underneath or the tackles
29:27
Speaker 1: looping around U Tunsil and the guard had didn't seem
29:32
Speaker 1: like they had a clue on that. And that's a
29:34
Speaker 1: timing issue, right Yeah, Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean,
29:36
Speaker 1: you got a guy that just came in there on
29:38
Speaker 1: Monday and they got them playing on you know, basically
29:41
Speaker 1: five days. There's got to be some kind of cohesiveness
29:44
Speaker 1: with the left guard left type, you know, left guard,
29:46
Speaker 1: left tackle, right guard, right tackle, especially when it comes
29:48
Speaker 1: on stunts, because it's gotta be some kind of feeling communication.
29:51
Speaker 1: So if the guys don't know each other that one,
29:53
Speaker 1: they're gonna struggle, especially when you know, when they win
29:56
Speaker 1: those kind of stunts and the running game was good
29:57
Speaker 1: for the Texans. Now, yeah, Carlos those two is twenty
30:01
Speaker 1: three in the world. Yeah, because that's the same Carlos
30:04
Speaker 1: Hide that was here where a year I don't know,
30:07
Speaker 1: but not here goodness, I mean that didn't look like
30:12
Speaker 1: the same player that we saw last year right together.
30:15
Speaker 1: Now and Duke Johnson, Uh, Duke Johnson, he averaged like
30:19
Speaker 1: six point three yards of carrying that game, and uh,
30:23
Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde was at like eight point three. I mean, wow, Hello,
30:31
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna steal scramble on four carry, scored
30:33
Speaker 1: a touchdown on the ground as well. And he can
30:37
Speaker 1: do it. He can do it. Don't let him do it,
30:39
Speaker 1: though they'll let him do it. He'll do it all day.
30:41
Speaker 1: He he worries me every year. I watched him and
30:44
Speaker 1: I go, I don't know if he's gonna make it
30:47
Speaker 1: to the end of the year because he just he
30:50
Speaker 1: takes that kind of punishment. And and I give him
30:53
Speaker 1: credit because he's tough as nails. I mean last year,
30:56
Speaker 1: if you ever needed anybody anything to prove how tough
30:58
Speaker 1: somebody is, I mean, when he took a bus to
31:01
Speaker 1: come here, what was the issue that he had? Oh?
31:03
Speaker 1: What was, Uh, that's a didn't have some kind of
31:07
Speaker 1: surgery that you know, if he wanted some kind of elevation,
31:10
Speaker 1: it would It wasn't. It wasn't a surgery. It was
31:12
Speaker 1: some kind of an ailment that he had. I remember
31:15
Speaker 1: if it was like a collapsed longer and uh so
31:22
Speaker 1: he couldn't fly in a plane. So him and the
31:24
Speaker 1: strength coach basically hop on a bus and drive from
31:27
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31:30
Speaker 1: make it here without having to fly on an airplane.
31:32
Speaker 1: And after the game, loaded the bus back up and
31:34
Speaker 1: he drove back to Houston. I mean, yeah, it was yeah,
31:37
Speaker 1: like a like a rib but lung issue. Air travel
31:40
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31:43
Speaker 1: Here's the thing wa wa. The doctor says, Okay, look,
31:47
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31:51
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31:53
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31:58
Speaker 1: You kidding me? Yeah, let's go back a little more
32:02
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32:06
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32:10
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Speaker 1: between Gardner mens Show the starter and Gardner Minshoe the backup.
37:06
Speaker 1: Turns out he's the same guy, to be honest, like,
37:10
Speaker 1: he's always that guy. He's trying to get us motivated,
37:12
Speaker 1: even in the preseason to last preseason game where guys
37:14
Speaker 1: were in here fighting. He's the one that stepped up
37:16
Speaker 1: in the middle of the locker room before the game
37:18
Speaker 1: saying like, Hey, we gotta go out here, and we
37:19
Speaker 1: gotta play. We gotta win our spots to uh in
37:21
Speaker 1: this league, you know. So, um, I just feel like Gardner,
37:24
Speaker 1: he's just already that leader. He's already that vocal leader.
37:27
Speaker 1: He already he's already that guy who likes to do
37:29
Speaker 1: the right things and being the right place. So um,
37:31
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna he's gonna come accustomed to being
37:33
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Speaker 1: can't say trust me so. Interesting thoughts from Ashley Solivan
39:21
Speaker 1: there in the update. I mean for the offensive line.
39:26
Speaker 1: Here they go again, right. Cam Robinson is limited this
39:28
Speaker 1: week away. He's still not practicing, so it seems I mean,
39:33
Speaker 1: if if things go like this that Will is going
39:36
Speaker 1: to be out there, right. I mean, he can't count
39:38
Speaker 1: Cam out. He's on the practice field limited. But you
39:41
Speaker 1: know they haven't had a way he since they teed
39:43
Speaker 1: it up, you know, before before the first game of
39:46
Speaker 1: the year. Yeah. I don't know what what they're gonna do.
39:50
Speaker 1: Let's say for example, that Cam can play, do they
39:53
Speaker 1: do they feel confident enough and Cam is he healthy
39:57
Speaker 1: enough to where First of all, do they would have
39:59
Speaker 1: him active, and obviously if they don't have him active,
40:02
Speaker 1: they'll do the same thing that they did last week.
40:05
Speaker 1: Let's say he is active, they trust him to start.
40:08
Speaker 1: So now do you take Will and make him your
40:12
Speaker 1: starter at right guard or do you leave him out
40:16
Speaker 1: as maybe a swing guy in case maybe Cam's not
40:19
Speaker 1: playing well to insert him at left tackle? You know,
40:22
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think it's a it's
40:23
Speaker 1: an interesting deal. But but here's the thing that I
40:26
Speaker 1: I know leon on my offensive line, I'd have Richardson
40:30
Speaker 1: starting somewhere on my offensive line. I don't care whether
40:33
Speaker 1: it's guard, tackle, whatever. He's a starter. Yeah, your best
40:37
Speaker 1: five you want on the field. And if Cam Robinson
40:39
Speaker 1: can play and they want him to play at left tackle,
40:42
Speaker 1: you move Will Richardson the right guard because he's one
40:44
Speaker 1: of your best five. So you know, so if that's
40:47
Speaker 1: the case, you know you've got to replace Ken and
40:50
Speaker 1: put where witches in there right guard? Where are you
40:52
Speaker 1: expecting JJ to line up most of the two left
40:56
Speaker 1: left left defensive left, that's where he lines up most
40:58
Speaker 1: of the time. I don't I don't see him. And
41:01
Speaker 1: here's the here's the one thing I will say about
41:04
Speaker 1: J J. He looks like I thought last year, even
41:08
Speaker 1: though he had numbers, why is a pretty good year.
41:11
Speaker 1: He didn't look the same last year, and he didn't
41:14
Speaker 1: look very good against the Saints. He was coming off
41:17
Speaker 1: last year's coming off that knee thing, right, he had
41:19
Speaker 1: like the Yeah, I don't know, you could tell that
41:21
Speaker 1: the lower unit is not as powerful as it once was.
41:26
Speaker 1: And Ram Chick, which is another badger at the right
41:29
Speaker 1: tackle for the Saints, I thought, did handled j J.
41:33
Speaker 1: You know where j J wasn't facting. It's not like
41:35
Speaker 1: that he had help. And Ram Chick pretty much handled
41:38
Speaker 1: him one on one. So do you think he's lost
41:40
Speaker 1: the step? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's hard to make
41:45
Speaker 1: that kind of a comment based on only one game,
41:47
Speaker 1: but I mean after if you had to make a
41:50
Speaker 1: comment one way or the other after one game, you'd say, yeah,
41:52
Speaker 1: he kind of has lost a little bit. But well,
41:55
Speaker 1: I don't want to get guilty of like I did
41:57
Speaker 1: with Watkins. Didn't say that everything that you won't you
42:02
Speaker 1: won't be doing. You wanna tell any favors. Here's the
42:06
Speaker 1: one thing I do know, Yes that Texans defense is
42:09
Speaker 1: not the same without clowning. I was just gonna ask
42:12
Speaker 1: that's a fact. How much how different will it look
42:15
Speaker 1: without him out there? It? First of all, it is
42:19
Speaker 1: vastly different because Clowney was he was He was your
42:23
Speaker 1: wild he was your joker, he was your wild card
42:26
Speaker 1: on your defense. He line up anywhere. He'd line up
42:28
Speaker 1: at the mike, the will, the sam, the defensive end, tackle,
42:33
Speaker 1: stand up. I mean, he did everything and wherever he was.
42:38
Speaker 1: He was the most disruptive force on that defense. And
42:41
Speaker 1: here's the thing that I don't get. They traded him
42:45
Speaker 1: for round picking two players, and the Texans are paying
42:50
Speaker 1: him eight million. So somebody told me how that that
42:56
Speaker 1: was a good trade for the Texans. Okay, let me
42:58
Speaker 1: review this. We're gonna giveaway arguably the most disruptive player
43:03
Speaker 1: on defense on on our defense, without a without question,
43:07
Speaker 1: maybe one of the most disruptive in the league. We're
43:10
Speaker 1: gonna pay him eight million dollars not to be here
43:12
Speaker 1: here anymore. We're only gonna get a third in which
43:16
Speaker 1: we would have getten. We would have gotten a compensatory
43:18
Speaker 1: third anyway if he left as a free agent after
43:20
Speaker 1: getting him for a year, and then we got two
43:22
Speaker 1: players that are not even starters who won that trade.
43:26
Speaker 1: I don't know who who was the acting GM. Bill O'Brien,
43:31
Speaker 1: he's the one really was doing it. I mean, they
43:33
Speaker 1: gotta we never really done it. I just I just
43:37
Speaker 1: don't understand how anybody looked at that and with the
43:41
Speaker 1: Texans organization and said we need to do this, this
43:44
Speaker 1: is good for us. They were a little bit up
43:47
Speaker 1: against it though, because Clowney did not want to go
43:49
Speaker 1: to Miami, right, I mean so at that point he's
43:53
Speaker 1: only gonna go to a couple of places, and he's
43:55
Speaker 1: got the control at that point, Well, well how about you,
43:57
Speaker 1: how about playing for you? I don't think that was
44:01
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That wasn't in the cards either. So I
44:03
Speaker 1: don't I don't get it. I mean, he's he's he's
44:05
Speaker 1: too good of a football player to let walk out
44:07
Speaker 1: the door to get essentially for you to be paying
44:11
Speaker 1: him eight million dollars to not be there and to
44:13
Speaker 1: get a draft pick which you would have gotten as
44:15
Speaker 1: a compensatory pick anyway. The two players, I mean one
44:18
Speaker 1: of them, uh, I can tell you who they were.
44:21
Speaker 1: One on them was Barkibious Mingo bounced around him, been
44:25
Speaker 1: much right, Uh. And then a second year linebacker Jacob
44:28
Speaker 1: Martin from Temple. I mean the Seahawks clearly, I think,
44:34
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, fleeced the Texans fleeced him.
44:38
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow, it'll be it'll look different. You want
44:42
Speaker 1: you want to hear another one, Larry Man Tunsil. Okay,
44:46
Speaker 1: you know what they gave up for Tunsel? Yeah? Two
44:48
Speaker 1: ones and a two and first round pick, second round
44:52
Speaker 1: pick and the first round pick for a left tackle
44:57
Speaker 1: who's on a one year deal. That's right, with not
45:01
Speaker 1: a new contract in hand yet, one year deal, so
45:04
Speaker 1: no guarantees signed a long term extension. Who fleeces two
45:07
Speaker 1: and that, dear Leon, I mean Themison is going to
45:11
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45:13
Speaker 1: time to pay up. Gentlemen. Yeah, basically, you know, basically
45:16
Speaker 1: he's got him now. So we'll see. But they they
45:21
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45:23
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45:27
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45:31
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45:35
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45:37
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Speaker 1: I welcome back. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. My name
50:24
Speaker 1: is j P. Shadrick. That's Leon Sarcy. Jeff Logaman here
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Speaker 1: with us as well, the one who acted like he
50:30
Speaker 1: just knew what Joe was talking about. Yeah, no clue,
50:33
Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah, is this um Gardner is talking that
50:38
Speaker 1: he was asked today, you know, hey, all of a sudden,
50:41
Speaker 1: you're kind of the elder statesman in the room, like
50:42
Speaker 1: he's been around the Jaguars the longest. In the quarterback
50:45
Speaker 1: room right now, Josh Jobs has got traded here, the
50:48
Speaker 1: practice squad quarterback hasn't been here that long, and all
50:51
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Gardner minus the starting quarterback and kind
50:54
Speaker 1: of the guy. It's kind of funny how fast that
50:56
Speaker 1: can happen in a in a quarterback room here. Unfortunately,
51:00
Speaker 1: that's not exactly the way you draw it up, No,
51:02
Speaker 1: not at all. In a perfect world, Gardner Minshew is
51:05
Speaker 1: your third quarterback and he now has moved into the
51:08
Speaker 1: backup role. But that's not the way it works sometimes,
51:12
Speaker 1: and so it will be uh be interesting. Josh Josh Stobbs,
51:17
Speaker 1: by the way, uh supposed to be another super intelligent quarterback.
51:22
Speaker 1: So at least they got some pretty good i Q
51:23
Speaker 1: in that room. Well he was he was asked about
51:27
Speaker 1: that today to Gardner Win yesterday and he said, you
51:30
Speaker 1: know what, that's a different level of intelligence. Gardner said,
51:34
Speaker 1: I have a communications degree. I should be in here
51:36
Speaker 1: with all the writers. Are you guys engineering? We touched
51:43
Speaker 1: on this earlier, didn't get to it. We'll get to
51:44
Speaker 1: the round of the league in a second. I don't
51:46
Speaker 1: know if I believe in must win games in week
51:48
Speaker 1: two of a season. You're not throwing out the must
51:52
Speaker 1: winmen games. I said, I don't think I believe it
51:55
Speaker 1: must win games in week two, But this is but
51:59
Speaker 1: close to it. That's what I'm saying. Considering the circumstances
52:02
Speaker 1: around this team right now, if they going to come
52:06
Speaker 1: back home short week, you got a rookie quarterback going,
52:10
Speaker 1: it's a game they have to have, right or do
52:12
Speaker 1: you guys buy that or not? Well, it's a divisional game,
52:17
Speaker 1: which is important because first and foremost, you want to
52:19
Speaker 1: win your division. Team that's leading your divisions of the Titans,
52:22
Speaker 1: you could you want to go. You want to win Sunday.
52:25
Speaker 1: So you go into the game Thursday with momentum because
52:28
Speaker 1: the Titans right now leading, and then you have an
52:30
Speaker 1: opportunity to beat them and to be tied. So it's
52:32
Speaker 1: not a must win, but any divisional game is important.
52:37
Speaker 1: And we've got back to back divisions. As bad as
52:39
Speaker 1: we played against the Chiefs, we could still go to
52:41
Speaker 1: and on our division, so that that that's I don't
52:44
Speaker 1: say it's a must win, but it's it's an important
52:46
Speaker 1: win for us. It would be it would be pretty
52:48
Speaker 1: awesome to find a way to get a team win
52:53
Speaker 1: sometime in the next two weeks and then somehow find
52:56
Speaker 1: a way to fight to five hundred for about the
53:00
Speaker 1: time when Nick Foles gets back. Absolutely, if you can
53:03
Speaker 1: find a way to do that, to me, that's winning.
53:07
Speaker 1: That's winning the first half of the season, because that's
53:10
Speaker 1: that's about ballpark of what Nick Foles is gonna end
53:12
Speaker 1: up missing. Right, It's eight more weeks until he's eligible
53:16
Speaker 1: to come back. So yeah, so you're seeing four and five. Yeah, yeah,
53:21
Speaker 1: somewhere four and five, somewhere in that range, and everything
53:27
Speaker 1: is great. I mean, for me, that would be phenomenal
53:30
Speaker 1: to be an unbelievable run, outstanding and then give it
53:33
Speaker 1: back to Nick Foles. He's used to coming back late
53:36
Speaker 1: in seasons. Here he comes off the bench around jackson
53:41
Speaker 1: That's what I'll call him. St Nick Right, Philly, Philly, Jacksonville, Jacksonville,
53:46
Speaker 1: all the whole deal. Let's go around the National Foodball League,
53:49
Speaker 1: shall we? You like this look, Dante Moncrieff, right, did
53:54
Speaker 1: you have the Steelers. Did you see his first game,
53:56
Speaker 1: by the way, Well, here's what he said after his
53:58
Speaker 1: Steelers debut. It was, quote my worst game ever end quote.
54:02
Speaker 1: Ten targets, three catches, seven yards. He was terrible. I
54:06
Speaker 1: watched that game, and he was not good. He was
54:08
Speaker 1: about as good as he was for the Jaguars. He
54:13
Speaker 1: wasn't that good here exactly. He wasn't. And they gave
54:16
Speaker 1: him what was like a one year it's like nine
54:18
Speaker 1: million bucks, million dollar prove it deal. The things that
54:23
Speaker 1: he hasn't quite proven it. He didn't prove it an indie,
54:27
Speaker 1: he didn't prove it in Jacksonville, and he has not
54:30
Speaker 1: proven it one week end of the season in Pittsburgh.
54:32
Speaker 1: In his defense, the pages made that whole team look bad. True,
54:36
Speaker 1: they did from both sides of the ball. Apparently Sam
54:42
Speaker 1: Donald's been kissing somebody. He's got mono, and he's gonna
54:46
Speaker 1: miss this week's game and maybe more with mono, he's
54:49
Speaker 1: I don't I just remember as a kid growing up
54:52
Speaker 1: that if somebody got mono, they were out of school
54:55
Speaker 1: for like six weeks, right, yeah, So as Sam Darnold
55:00
Speaker 1: gonna be out six weeks of the season, it said
55:03
Speaker 1: it could be multiple weeks. Yeah, that's uh, that's unfortunately.
55:06
Speaker 1: I've been somewhere. He's already lost like five pounds or something.
55:09
Speaker 1: Trevor simeon the backup with the Jets. Okay, that's that's unfortunate. Uh.
55:16
Speaker 1: Redskins running back Darius Guys could miss four to six
55:19
Speaker 1: weeks knee issue. He had a surgically repaired the meniscus,
55:23
Speaker 1: getting a second opinion and then um in pency cool.
55:26
Speaker 1: Dr James Andrews actually did the surgery today. It could
55:29
Speaker 1: be Adrian Peterson time in Washington again. He just won't quit. First,
55:33
Speaker 1: let me let me take did you ever have Andrews
55:36
Speaker 1: fix you Andrews from where James Andrews, James Andrew Dr
55:40
Speaker 1: James Andrews. I had Dr Uribe from Miami. I knew
55:45
Speaker 1: you went somewhere. I couldn't remember if you went to
55:47
Speaker 1: see Andrews or not. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's two years
55:51
Speaker 1: in a row for guys having a knee issue. What
55:54
Speaker 1: was an a c L last year and Adrian Peterson
55:58
Speaker 1: was inactive in week one and so now a P
56:01
Speaker 1: will be back on the active list. I'm sure this
56:05
Speaker 1: old man, Adrian, he's I mean, look that guy still
56:08
Speaker 1: got it. I mean, I'm not saying he's a great
56:10
Speaker 1: running back still, but I mean he still has moments
56:13
Speaker 1: to where you go wow. I mean he can still play.
56:17
Speaker 1: So man, we'll see, all right. Antonio Brown accused of
56:21
Speaker 1: rape by a former trainer in a civil law suit.
56:24
Speaker 1: The Patriots aren't saying much. Brown was on the practice
56:26
Speaker 1: field Wednesday and today. They aren't saying though, if he'll
56:31
Speaker 1: be ready and available for Sunday. It's continues just an
56:35
Speaker 1: odd run here for Antonio Brown. How long leon do
56:39
Speaker 1: you think before Antonio Brown a b ends up doing
56:43
Speaker 1: something on social media to draw the ire of Bill BELLI.
56:48
Speaker 1: I give him two weeks, two weeks, two weeks? What
56:52
Speaker 1: do I say? Yeah, I don't he can't help. Oh,
56:56
Speaker 1: he's on his best behavior right now. But the more
56:59
Speaker 1: rope you of him, the more he's gonna take. How
57:02
Speaker 1: long is that gonna last? We'll see, Hey, Thursday night football.
57:06
Speaker 1: I don't know if we have that. We don't have
57:07
Speaker 1: the way of the Monday night music, but not the
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Speaker 1: Thursday night in music. We'll here from Tony Boselli and
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Speaker 1: the Dug Morone show coming up. He's in the booth
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Speaker 1: in Charlotte, and I see South Battle, the Tampa Bay
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Speaker 1: Bucketeers and Old and one the Carolina Panthers at oh
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Speaker 1: and one. Who you got tonight, sirs? I got the Panthers.
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Speaker 1: I saw the Bucks. You know, I thought were Bruce
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Speaker 1: Arians coming to Tampa, that somehow Jamis Winston's was going
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Speaker 1: to mature and grow up and play some good football. No,
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Speaker 1: three picks, three interceptions. Unfortunately. Uh, then we gotta see
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Speaker 1: how Cam Newton is going to play a coming off
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Speaker 1: his injury. So was the surgery. So it was gonna
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Speaker 1: be I think Caroline is gonna have their advantage, Carolina
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Speaker 1: running back to Carolina. Yes, and plus the gay McCaffrey.
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Speaker 1: It's a McCaffrey was balling last week h once again
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Speaker 1: as a receiver and as a running back. His stats
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Speaker 1: were if somebody had them in fantasy, they were very happy,
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Speaker 1: and unfortunately I didn't have them. In fact, I didn't
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Speaker 1: do very well at all in fantasy this past week.
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Speaker 1: We were all concerned about that. Apparently, Well, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm the reigning two time champion. That's not good for me.
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Speaker 1: It's not good for you at all. No, it's not.
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Speaker 1: We'll find out Sunday, how you really did for sure?
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Speaker 1: All Right, So here we go. Jack's going to Houston.
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Speaker 1: You guys are not calling it must win yet. We're
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Speaker 1: not quite there. But it's a divisional game, big important
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Speaker 1: road game, and I get this, uh get some success
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Speaker 1: for this football team. Well, I mean it's against the
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Speaker 1: team that won of the division three out of the
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Speaker 1: last four years. And if uh, and look your your
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Speaker 1: goal every year is to win the division. And if
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Speaker 1: you wanted to win the division and find a way
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Speaker 1: to scratch and claw your way to get a victory
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Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback, and it's not gonna be easy.
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Speaker 1: It is not gonna be easy. Even though we all
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Speaker 1: feel really good about this min Minshu mania. That's uh.
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Speaker 1: You know who really feels good about it, Tony Boselli.
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Speaker 1: He locked it on Monday. Did he really Jaguars win?
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Speaker 1: I'm I wouldn't. I wouldn't even locked him. Think about
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Speaker 1: locking a game like this. I mean he went, he
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Speaker 1: just pulled out the lock in a hurry. If you
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Speaker 1: wanted to look at the metric, you'd lock it the
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Speaker 1: other way. When he called this game a lot by
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Speaker 1: the Jack not dead, We'll have to see I'm not
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Speaker 1: ready to call it a lot. Close, Big search. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you. Well done. We're back in a moment
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Speaker 1: when the Jaguars Radio Network at Doug Moron show coming up.
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