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Creating a Positive Youth Sports Experience · UNCOACHED

• 0:13
  Brad: Welcome to UNCOACHED, a podcast for volunteer coaches and parents figuring out youth sports as we go. Each episode, we keep things simple, five questions to talk about practical insights that you can actually use with your youth athletes. My guest today is Morgan Schill. She's the founder of the Positive Play Project, which is aimed at creating positive youth sports experiences that go beyond the scoreboard. I don't wanna give too much away, but she's a former college athlete, she's a coach, and most importantly, she's a mom.
• 0:42
  So Morgan, thanks so much for being here. Would you do me the honor of talking to me about yourself and the Positive Play Project? What prompted you to start that?
• 0:50
  Morgan: Sure. Yeah. You mentioned all of those things that I am and I do. My kids are still fairly young, so my oldest is only eight. So we're just kind of in the thick of getting into this crazy sports world.
• 1:04
  But, yeah, I think I, it was pretty apparent quite early the, challenges that youth sports are having across the board in rec and on all levels. And I coach both club and rec, so I've seen from that aspect of it. And I think youth sports were such an impact in my life, made such a positive impact in my life, and I truly would not be where I am or who I am without them. And so I wanted to create a place where some of these tough questions or discussions could happen and I could maybe share some insight from a different perspective. But more than anything, I think just there's a lot of good people out there who I think are thinking similar things and want things to be better and different.
• 1:49
  And so yeah, wanted to create a place that they can come together and start rowing in that direction. And it's been a really awesome response to see, you know, all of the wonderful nice things people have shared and advice that they've asked. And I think we all want this to be better. I just got to figure out how to get there.
• 2:07
  Brad: Yeah. There's no shortage of negative. So I think this environment that we're in, I think we roll up a lot in what we're what what both of us are trying to do in this arena. And I think it's needed, and I think it's fantastic. So kudos to you for for starting this.
• 2:23
  If somebody's listening or or viewing that's not following one of us, let's say, where can I go to find out more about you, more about Positive Play Project? Give me some contact information here.
• 2:33
  Morgan: Sure. I think most of my content starts on Instagram, so Positive Play Project is the handle. I think it's been a great outlet for sharing a lot of information. As I kind of got into it, was finding, I was wishing I had a place to share a little bit longer form content where we could kind of share my thoughts in a more robust way. So we also have a Substack, which is the same Positive Play Project, and most of all that's free articles.
• 3:00
  So just a little bit more information there. I'm also on TikTok and YouTube and Facebook, although less as engaged in those platforms, but I want to be available wherever I meet someone where they're at. Yeah, and then I'm working on a lot of things behind the scenes of creating some resources and courses and other things, so more to come on that. But I would say most importantly Instagram and then Substack for a little longer form.
• 3:26
  Brad: Yeah. For sure. And I hopefully will give get into those longer form thoughts here a little bit too. But there is no shortage of work that you can do here. Right?
• 3:34
  Like this this environment we're in just it seems like it needs a lot of support. And that's I started too. Right? Like, I as a volunteer coach and I'm a lot like you where I've got club teams that I coach and rec teams that I coach. And in both environments, there's there's volunteer coaches and parents that are helping their kids, and there's just not a lot of resources out there.
• 3:53
  And so I think the more that we can put out there for them, the better it'll be.
• 3:58
  Morgan: Sure. Agreed.
• 4:00
  Brad: So when you look at youth sports today, what's something that adults have kind of normalized that you think is actually hurting kids?
• 4:08
  Morgan: There's a few things I think we could choose from for this topic. I think that what stands out the most for that is how we've shifted youth sports into thinking about it like a job or like a product pipeline that we're trying to create this outcome, you know, by kids. It's like win at all costs type pressure. And I think that's partly because of this focus on specializing much younger and travel schedules that feel so much more intense than when I was playing a long time ago. And so I think when you see that fun be replaced by high expectations and not that expectation, I'm good with high expectations, but in absence of fun with those.
• 4:57
  Or I think that's what we're seeing this burnout and this higher rate of drop out anxiety, and it just kind of takes the whole joy out of the experience. And so, yeah, I think we've got to get back to thinking about sports as a true, as like the whole person and what the true intent of what it is about, and not only thinking about those performance and the outcomes as like why we're doing you know, in the first place.
• 5:25
  Brad: For sure. I mean, you get this idea of, like, a player's, like, just kind of number or piece that you move around within an organization. You know, this this player is good. We're gonna put them on the premier team. This player is not.
• 5:35
  We're gonna put them down a a position. You know? Taking into consideration who that kid is, what kind of team they've built, what kind of environment they're surrounded by, I think we lose that a lot.
• 5:46
  Morgan: Yeah. And that the whole intent of why we're all there is can't only be to, like, win trophies at the end of the day. Like that will only get us so far, right. And so I feel like when I am coaching a team, if I get, it's short, it's fun to win, like I get it. And a lot of people get up in arms about the lack of focus on winning, and I don't, it's not to take away from that, you can be competitive and fun at the same time.
• 6:10
  But if all I did was win trophies as a coach, like really that would not fulfill my cup or what my purpose that I think coaches out there to do. And so I so much deeper than just the scoreboard.
• 6:24
  Brad: Yeah. For sure. When I think about the questions I'll ask guests, like to think about what I would say too. I just literally wrote down one word to this and the word is tournaments. Yeah.
• 6:34
  Like, we're so tournament heavy today. Yes. In our environment, it's like every weekend, there's a tournament. You're chasing a trophy all the time. It's like, where's like, I think you touched on it.
• 6:46
  Right? It's business. Right? We're gonna they're trying to earn money, trying to generate some revenue for these sites. But I think adults just emphasizing this tournament style play all the time kind of hurts our environment for youth sports.
• 6:58
  Morgan: Yeah. I think, the games are certainly, like, still a place to learn and grow. But, like the off season, the practice, like that's where the real skill development and I think a lot of those relationships and like the ability to be comfortable trying new things and failure and growth can really like happen in those not in the spotlight moments. Then sure, you take that out and see, you know, how much you've grown and take what you aren't doing well and back to the off season. But yeah, it seems like when it's all year round and so much intense pressure every weekend, we've lost the ability for that, like, development to happen.
• 7:34
  Brad: For sure. And I know we're touching on this a little bit, but there's a lot of parents and coaches that they say they want kids to love sports longer term. I know some of this feeds into that, but why do you think there's so many athletes that eventually stop playing? I think there's a metric out there that, hey. By 12 or 13, right, you see a lot of kids drop off from the sport that they love to play.
• 7:56
  Talk about some things you think are feeding into that.
• 7:58
  Morgan: I think there's a few kinda like coming at it from multiple angles, but I think that at the heart of it is it's just not fun anymore from them. And they're kids, like, why am I gonna do this if it's not fun? And I think as adults we should be able to understand that better and like align with it better. Like, I don't want to do things that aren't particularly fun for me either and I'm certainly not going to do it with no real reason to be doing it, especially as a kid. And so I think the type of environment that we've created, the pressure and not being good enough type of environment is making kids like not want to do this anymore.
• 8:37
  I think that the lack of access for some kids, that there's not as many opportunities to play in a rec league or feeling like they need to be forced into those hyper competitive environments contributes to that also. At the heart of it as I think it's just I just don't think they're having as much fun as it should be. And yeah. So they're not gonna do it.
• 9:01
  Brad: Yeah. I tend to agree. I think as parents and coaches, we could all help our youth athletes a little bit more with the year round play too.
• 9:09
  Morgan: Yes.
• 9:10
  Brad: There's so much I know you mentioned specializing, but just doing the same sport all year long without having a little bit of seasonality to, There's a start date and an end date to this. And in between there, got a break where I can do something else. I have some freedom. Yeah. Maybe it's just a flat out break.
• 9:26
  But I think parents need to start putting their foot down a little bit more and say, hey. We're not gonna do this year round. And I think coaches need to support that and club environments need to support that too. Don't know how you feel about that.
• 9:37
  Morgan: For sure. When I was playing in college, I remember, like distinctly remember once school was out and we so we were a fall sport. I was a volleyball player. So we had the summer to, you know, it was training to go back to preseason. So it wasn't like you weren't off, but I took two full weeks once school was out.
• 9:55
  Like finals were over, practices were done, we went home and I just remember like I looked forward to those two weeks so much. I was a still a kid, but I was a grown up for all intents and purposes. Like these kids are significantly much younger than that. They're not professional, you know, they're not college athletes, they're professional athletes. Like they need breaks, their bodies are growing, you know, mentally they need time to do other things.
• 10:20
  And I think to me, like the biggest red flag is if my kids wanted to play in a league and they were strict about them missing tournaments or playing other sports or playing on a school team, like that is a hard no for us. I think that there's very it would be very difficult to have a healthy environment for a kid if those are guidelines and rules that they're putting in place.
• 10:43
  Brad: Yeah. For sure. I think I like your perspective there. Like, you look forward to that time off. I think I think it's needed.
• 10:50
  And I think parents need to maybe not let their kid take the lead on whether they wanna play or not year round because I think the younger kids you know, I've got a I've got a 10 year old. He wants to play all the time, and I feel like I want to slow him down and say, hey. This is a time for you to break. Do something else. Let's go play you can play another sport.
• 11:08
  You can do something different. But, like, I think long term, I want you to take a break now so that you're just not so focused on this thing, and then you burn out by thirteen, fourteen.
• 11:17
  Morgan: Yeah. I I think that there's that's an interesting side of it too. It's like, it's not always the parents that are pushing. Kids are excited, they're good, they love what they're doing. But I think you said it right, we're the grownups, we're the parent, like we're in charge and it's our job to keep our kids safe and happy and healthy.
• 11:35
  And so, you know, with guidance, like, sure. If you wanna, you know, go play catch on the side of the house, dad, great. You know, we can still get our reps in and have fun with the sport, but it doesn't have to be so organized and intense all the time.
• 11:47
  Brad: For sure. And I you touched on this a second ago, and I love the way you you talked about it, but I wanna dive a little bit deeper into it. This this idea of balancing kinda coaching hard or let's say this, hey. I want to win type of reality versus having fun. Like, my perspective is you can be focused on winning and have fun and create a good environment.
• 12:11
  I don't think wanting to win is a bad thing. I think that's a great goal to have in mind. But if that's the only thing you're evaluating your team against, I think that's where it gets dangerous. And I just wonder your perspective on this balance of win and coaching hard versus having fun.
• 12:26
  Morgan: Sure. I think it is a hard it's a hard balance especially for kids. And I think as adults like being in charge of that environment, it certainly has to be like super intentional. And you know, I was I'm an athlete. Like, I'm super competitive.
• 12:40
  Yeah. I wanna win. Don't get like, at everything. Like I don't care if we're playing monopoly or like pickup game and out front. Like it's innate in me that desire, that high drive for win.
• 12:51
  But I can also I think understand that having that can be the goal, but it can't be the only goal. And it can't be like the only thing, the filter that we're using to make decisions with, right? As a coach specifically, yes, I want to win this game because that's fun and I'm here to, that's as a game, right? That you're going to win some, you're going to lose some. You're always going to try to win.
• 13:12
  But I think that developing your players, teaching them great sportsmanship, learning how to be a good teammate, learning how to fail, you can't win every single game. I remember my son was on a team last year and they were undefeated. I was like, you know, I almost hope that they don't win their last couple games because what a great op, like the lessons and the learnings from that would be so much more significant than taking it all the way. And I think they needed a little like humbling to be, you know, that's like a good thing for them. So yeah, but I do think that having high standards and holding people accountable is a form of showing that you really care.
• 13:51
  Like I talk a lot about feedback and being able to have that tough conversation or challenge somebody when they're not performing as well as you know that they can or being as good as, you know, showing up on time or being nice to their teammates, like fill in the blank. It doesn't mean to me like having fun is not lowering standards. To me like the standards aren't what they are, what you set as the leader of a team. And I think like how you go about that, enforcing those and the type of environment and culture that you create is where it becomes fun. Being humble in the wins, being humble in the losses, like not only focusing on the outcome.
• 14:30
  Yes, we lost today. Brad hit his first home run. Like what an amazing, we've been working on that for the last month that we're in practice. And so let's celebrate that. Or even when somebody struck out, everybody came out and gave them a high five, that makes me super proud of you guys.
• 14:45
  It can be so much more than just you know, the win.
• 14:50
  Brad: Yeah. You need those small things along the way that I mean, it's helped building them up individually. It's helped building the team environment up a little bit more. It's you're right. It's more than just the ultimate win.
• 15:03
  It's the, you know, you've been working on hitting. You got a home run. You made a pass that was awesome, whatever it is.
• 15:09
  Morgan: Yep. And and I always think about it, like, at the end of a season, like, there can only be one team that ultimately wins it. Right? If we're gonna play, like, a two tournament, someone's gonna win. So does that mean everyone else is having a terrible experience?
• 15:24
  Like the math just doesn't work for that. So sure, it's fun and everyone hopefully has their chance to be, you know, on the winning side of whatever, you know, it is that they're doing, but the majority of people who play in are not going to be the ultimate winners, so it can't just be about that or what does everybody else really, everyone else just failed? Like, that doesn't feel like that's the right thing.
• 15:49
  Brad: No. I think you're right on. And there's big emotions with these kids too. I've got a group of, again, my 10 year old son at our club team. A little bit like your season, we were undefeated going into our last game.
• 16:01
  We wound up losing, and that's you know, that happens. But the kids were man, four or five of them were crying at the end. I hadn't seen that emotion come out of them yet. And so it was eye opening for me, but I think it was eye opening for them too. And instead of downplaying that cry, I, you know, I think we handled it the right way by saying, hey.
• 16:21
  It's okay. You're you're showing me you care, and I don't love that. Right? And this is how we need to release that emotion of having a loss, then let's do it. Like, it's okay.
• 16:31
  Morgan: Yeah. What a gift that you Right. Found something you're so passionate about that you wanted so, you know, so badly. Not everybody has that or cares, you know, that much, and so certainly it's okay to be disappointed. And yeah, think it's wonderful that you shared that or allowed that emotion to be there because that's, yeah, we've had experiences where that has not always been the case, and it's a hard it's a hard thing to kinda see adults
• 16:58
  Brad: It is.
• 16:59
  Morgan: You know, interact with kids in such a not positive
• 17:01
  Brad: Yeah. I don't think you wanna shut them down when you've got that happening or because it's gonna I don't know. They're gonna bottle it up next time or it's gonna come out the wrong way, I think. Speaking of this, what is something you have seen a coach or parent do or say that's kinda completely changed the emotional tone of a team either for the positive or for the negative?
• 17:21
  Morgan: Yeah. And I wish I could, I wanted to share like a positive but I think most of the time unfortunately is like we're seeing it more prevalently where it's a negative situation. And so part of the reason why I started or was like moved to start Positive Play Project was again my son had an interesting couple years of basketball experience. And I think basketball is an interesting sport at youth because you're inside and it's like usually very tight small gyms. So I think everything is amplified and intense anyway.
• 17:58
  But yeah, we had a situation where the parents ended up and the cops were called, there was a physical, it was like insane. And I was like, what's happening here? And similarly during that same season they had lost a game and their coach was, think, having a hard time controlling their own emotions about the feelings of it. And it was just like how the coach responds in those moments of stress, like getting louder and yelling or showing their frustration like the kids are all right like kids don't want to lose. I said this in like everybody wants to win especially kids like that's like an eight in them.
• 18:36
  Yeah. For most kids I think and so it's not that they're not trying or anything. And so I think that in that moment it was just like a lack of self awareness of understanding like how my behavior and what I'm saying or what I'm doing is impacting not only my own kids, but like now the entire gym is feeling this tension and it doesn't need to be there. And so I think, yeah, it's just that I talk about a lot about emotional intelligence, like understanding how my behavior and what I'm saying and doing or the look on my face affects those around me, certainly as a coach to my own athletes. But also I think as a coach, you're a leader in this gym environment.
• 19:15
  Like I feel like when I'm coaching, if my parents are acting a certain way, like I feel responsible or at least I wanna be leading in a way that they can model. Like I want them to behave in a similar way that I am. And so I think, yeah, it's just that ability to understand how in those tough moments, like, you know, take a beat and respond in a way that you feel good about and that you want your kids to look at you and feel you would want them to respond in a similar way.
• 19:44
  Brad: I think it's weird the amount of influence a coach probably has over parents, like you're saying. Yep. Usually, you're thinking about the kids on your team and how you're impacting them. Maybe you're thinking about that. I hope you are.
• 19:57
  Yes. But you're spot on because I've seen it with, you know, my son's baseball team where the coach starts yelling at the umpire, and then things get a little bit more rowdy and the parents are like, okay. You know, I feel like I'm right and justified by saying this out loud to the umpire. And then it's just like, the whole situation gets tense. It's really cringey, and it's like, what are we doing here?
• 20:18
  These kid yeah. These kids are 10 or nine. Like, are we really gonna argue about strikes and balls right now? Or, you know, can we let them play and then just have some fun?
• 20:26
  Morgan: Right. And I think, like, how when things don't go your way or you're you don't get the call that you want or something feels unfair, the lesson like, the kids are looking to certainly the coach, but the parents to understand like how do we, what do we do in this situation? Because it's not going to be the last time that happens to them. And so like to me that's such a responsibility of being leading by example and setting the tone for like how you want the season to go and how you want these kids to respond to these types of things long beyond, like far beyond when we leave this field today. So yeah, I think you're The coach really has a lot of responsibility and opportunity, I think, to set the tone.
• 21:11
  Brad: Maybe a side quest question. Sure. I'd love your perspective on how you approach refs and bad calls. I could tell you mine and what I do with my team is I I almost I literally have told them, like, let's ignore the ref. Like, they are part of the game.
• 21:27
  Not be rude. I so when I say ignore them, don't be rude to them. But it's part of the game. They're gonna miss you getting chipped down from behind. They're gonna miss you getting hit.
• 21:37
  They're gonna miss all kinds of things. I am not the kind of person that's going to start chirping at a ref for those things. Don't want them to do that. Right? I want them to just keep playing.
• 21:47
  And if something happens and the ref makes a call, then that's what happens. That's part of the game. So I'm interested that how do you coach your kids to, I don't know, deal with bad calls or or rest or umps?
• 22:00
  Morgan: Yeah. I think my message is always like control the things that we can control. You that's all we can do. It is my job as the coach to communicate and, you know, understand where a ref was maybe coming from. It is that is absolutely.
• 22:14
  And I will communicate that back to you guys. Like you could take your direction for me. But yeah, think at the end of the day, like it doesn't matter what level, like I'm a super big hockey fan and we've been watching the, I think the avalanche got some tough calls going their way in these last few games, right? Every level it's not going to go your way sometimes, but you can control how you respond, you can control what you do on the next play. Sure, it's disappointing when things don't go your way, and sometimes it's gonna go your way and it's not gonna go the way of the other teams.
• 22:44
  That's out, you know, it's out of our hands. But yes, sportsmanship, I have three roles for my kids, which when we play is that we have fun, we try our best, and we're good sportsmen. And that sportsmanship to each other, to the other team, and absolutely to the refs. And so, yeah, that's like a deal breaker for me of we're respectful. They're humans.
• 23:07
  People are gonna make mistakes. They're trying their best. They're here, you know, volunteering their timer for very minimal amount of pay to give you guys the opportunity to be able to play here today. So yeah.
• 23:19
  Brad: That's good. I like your three words. I also use three words, and it forms the word eat. Effort, attitude, and teamwork. Those are the things that some similarly aligned to yours.
• 23:32
  But, man, I I have that home to my team all the time. That's our chance, you know, when we come in and and we kick things off. So I love the approach of kinda simplifying that down for them and having three keywords.
• 23:42
  Morgan: Yep.
• 23:43
  Brad: So tell me this. If a volunteer coach or a parent came to you and said, hey. I genuinely want to create a better environment for my team, but I don't know exactly how to go about this. Where would you tell them to start?
• 23:55
  Morgan: Yeah, I think in all areas of life and I don't think coaching is immune to this, that communication to me is always the problem and it's always the solution. So I think getting really clear for yourself about what success looks like for this season or this team, once you have that clarity of what you really want to achieve and what we're doing here, think communicating that out effectively to not only your players, but the parents so that they can be advocates and that we're all working on the same thing. I think it's an interesting dynamic between coaches and parents these days, but like when it's done, I think it's such an opportunity for everybody to be on the same page and to be refocusing on this, when things are tarred or when things are going well, like that we're all speaking the same language and that the kids are hearing the same type of message. So, yeah, I would tell them to just one for themselves, get really clear about what they want to do, what they're trying to do with this season or with this team, and then make sure it's communicated out really effectively.
• 25:05
  And all the parents are going to be like, okay, great, and just take it at face value. Like it can be an open discussion, but sharing where you're coming from and your message and what you're looking to achieve and asking them to help support and get their buy in, think would set you up for a lot of more success and kind of get ahead of those challenges that may come as things get tougher throughout. Yeah, think and then with your team, like you said, having real, their kids, right? Can't focus on anything for longer than a short amount of time. So being really clear about what we're doing here and how I know I had, if I walk away at the end of the practice, how do I know that I did a great job?
• 25:39
  Being really clear in your communication with them of not only things for them to improve on, but things that they're doing really well. Yeah. Think communication is really at the root of all of the opportunities that we have.
• 25:50
  Brad: It's powerful. I'll tell you what, like, I've been a coach and then, you know, on the other side as a fan, you know, for for my kids. And the coaches that overcommunicate are I feel like they've got a better environment around them because I think the parents are their their nerves are less high around things because they understand what the coach's goals are, what we're working on, you know, the things that they're trying to drive with the team. And I think parents to to bring the parents along with them, and I think that's a good thing. I had a recently a direct experience with this.
• 26:26
  Just we're working through tryouts for my club soccer team, and I made an effort this year to be very open and overly communicate with everybody that's registered to come out. And I actually found maybe a little bit of gold mine here because I've communicated so good and let them in behind the curtain that know what we're doing that we've held a series of tryouts. And by the end, the parents had spread the word about the good communication and the things like that. This is what they've told me. And I thought it's really good.
• 26:57
  It's really good feedback to get that, and I thought it actually helped get more people interested in into what you're doing because I think it is kinda rare to have a coach that actually communicates really, really well and brings people along the journey with them.
• 27:10
  Morgan: Yeah. I agree. I think in my other life, I've worked in HR mostly, and that's what my undergrad is in, my degree. And I've always believed that, like, in the absence of information, people will fill in the blank on their own, and it's always the worst case scenario that they're telling themselves in their head, right? So whether that's I just got pulled out and I'm sitting the bench next setting, like I'm telling myself a story that's probably far worse than if my coach just acknowledged and had like a quick conversation, my parents probably feeling, you know, doing the same.
• 27:41
  And so, yeah, I think the more you empower people to have the knowledge and clarity of like why we're making these decisions, what's going on, what my expectations are, that much easier it's gonna be to have a great experience for everybody.
• 27:57
  Brad: Yep. For sure. Okay. So bonus question here. What's if you could pick one thing that we could all do to help create a more positive environment for kids in their sports, what would that one thing be?
• 28:11
  Morgan: One thing. Yeah. I think that there's it's tough. There's so many things I would want to share. But I truly think, I think if everyone took like just a moment to like truly pause and think about like self reflection of like how do I want to show up for my kid, how do I want to show up as a coach, what is truly most important here.
• 28:37
  I know in like the moment when things get, emotions are flying and other parents are chirping, know in those moments it's really easy to get caught up in that. Know like I've been there, But I think like the intention of going into a season or joining a team or not joining a team, like whatever we're doing is to just like having a moment of clarity for yourself and like an alignment with your family and your kid and the coach of like, what's the real purpose here? So when those tough moments show up or my kid's riding the bench or the other ref is missing the calls, like going back to that, take a second to pause and remember what we're all really doing here before it gets escalated so quickly, I think could really change the type of environment that we're seeing at a lot of these games and events. And there's a lot of things, but, you know, maybe we start there and kinda build on it.
• 29:33
  Brad: It's a really good answer. I did my, eyesight into my one word thing, and so I wrote down smile. It seems horny and cheeseball, but, like, if you're a coach or a parent, smile. It is fun. You get the honor to watch your kid or a group of kids do something that they love to do, a game.
• 29:50
  Right? At the end of the day, it's a game. So smile. It's contagious. Right?
• 29:54
  Them have fun and know that you're having fun.
• 29:55
  Morgan: Yes, agreed. These years fly by. Mean, I see it like my youngest is gonna be in start kindergarten this year. I'm like, you know, I don't know how we got to I feel like you were just born and here we are already all going to be in like actual grade school, and these they call them like the bleacher years, right, where we're just getting the joy of watching these kids do what hopefully they love for a long time. Don't ruin that.
• 30:21
  Don't make it shorter than it needs to be because they quit because of the environment and make it a memory and a time in your lives where you enjoyed time together doing something that your kids like fell in love with doing and they were passionate about. So like you said, it's such a gift.
• 30:36
  Brad: When I'm loading my car up like I'm going on a three week vacation for a one day baseball tournament, and I've got everything packed in there, and I'm sweating because it's so hot. Yep. I promise, I tell myself, okay. Let's enjoy this because there's gonna be one day where you're like, I wish I could go back and do this all over again.
• 30:54
  Morgan: What I wouldn't give to be loading up the car. Yep.
• 30:57
  Brad: That's right. Keep it in perspective. That's our questions that we're gonna go through today. I could probably talk to you for a couple more hours on all of this stuff. I thank you so much.
• 31:07
  I love Positive Play Project. I know I'm gonna be following a lot more closely to the things that you're doing because I think there's a lot of, growth and and good success in your future. So thank you for being on. I really, really appreciate it.
• 31:19
  Morgan: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate your time and getting a chance to be on here and talk with you as well.
• 31:28
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