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Ep. 18: Scripted Steps at Ballerina Farms · We Are More: Sisters Talk Faith & Feminism

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Welcome to the We Are More podcast.
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My name is Alyssa.
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And my name is Bri.
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We are two sisters passionate about all things faith and feminism.
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We believe that Jesus trusted, respected, and encouraged women to teach and preach His
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word.
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And apparently that's controversial.
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Get comfy.
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Hello world.
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Hello.
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You'll be happy to know that today we are recording in a room that's not 9,000 degrees.
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Nine hundred twenty five thousand six hundred minutes.
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Have I made that one before?
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I don't think you have.
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Is that the actual right numbers?
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I'm pretty sure.
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I always get them wrong.
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I try and sing it and I'm like four thousand seven hundred and eighty thousand.
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No, I lost it.
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I'm not even sure what I just sang.
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That's from Rent, right?
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Girl, I don't know.
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I'm pretty sure it's from Rent.
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Where have I heard it from though?
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Glee.
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Is that what it is?
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Oh great.
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Yeah, but like it's just a song that everybody knows.
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Have you rewatched Glee in recent years?
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I think during the lockdown I rewatched it and I couldn't make it all the way through.
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It's so bad.
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I got to like the last season or two.
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Yeah, it was bad.
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I don't remember most of this stuff, but the teacher is horrifying on every level.
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Oh, a hundred percent terrible.
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He's a predator.
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He's a predator.
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Everybody's a predator in there.
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Yeah, it's bad.
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And they're like, it's okay.
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Because we're singing.
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We're singing and it's Glee.
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That happens with thespians.
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The poor thespians out there.
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I'm sorry.
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I support you thespians.
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We just went and saw Shrek the musical actually.
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We did.
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It was great.
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Well, it was good.
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It was a fun time.
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It was a fun time.
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It was not my favorite performance I've ever seen.
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No, because they changed a lot of it.
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Yeah.
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They really pushed to make it, I would say politically correct.
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Which is a rough thing to do with Shrek.
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With Shrek.
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Let's all keep in mind, it's Shrek.
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The whole thing is about being weird and not fitting in and not caring.
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I have a lot of gas.
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It has never been tame.
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No.
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You know what I kind of wondered actually was if, because we went to a midday show.
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Now the tickets didn't say this, but I wonder if there's a possibility that the midday show
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was made more for kids and the evening show might have been more normal.
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I don't know.
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They still sang that one song.
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Which one?
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Why me?
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Thank you for that.
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I don't want to cuss on the podcast.
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Not today.
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Not today?
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Do other people know that that's like our tagline?
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We say it all the time in real life, but I think we've only said it once or twice on
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the podcast.
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It came from the podcast.
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It did, but it's not a running joke.
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I said it at work the other day and they did not react.
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That's because they don't listen.
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That's true.
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Tell them not to listen.
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Ahem, out there.
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Co-workers.
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My co-workers are spread across the globe and I don't actually know who they are, so.
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That's so sad for you.
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It's really not.
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I'm okay with it.
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So today we're going to be talking about, this is one of our mini episodes.
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If you've ever tuned into one of these before, they're kind of just us talking.
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It's us talking about current events, things that are going on, things that we feel are
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necessary to sing about.
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Frankly, mostly it's things Brie saw on TikTok.
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A hundred percent.
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And this is one of them.
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It is.
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Last mini episode was something I saw on TikTok.
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They're all something you see on TikTok.
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Listen, I'm current.
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I'm on the social medias.
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I'm scrolling all night long.
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So this week on TikTok, Brie has been watching ballerinas.
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Ballerinas.
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When I was a kid, that's what I wanted to be.
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I wanted to be a ballerina teacher.
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We took all of two dance classes in our entire lives.
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Yep.
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I don't think that was an option for you.
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But I was convinced.
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Because I was my teacher's favorite because I was the cutest.
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Well, I got to dance with the Easter bunny at the mall.
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I remember that.
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Wow, that took me back.
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Yeah, because I was a favorite.
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They don't even have malls anymore.
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They have.
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I've been watching YouTube videos about that.
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They're all abandoned.
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It's actually really spooky.
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Honestly, all of the malls that I've been to lately have garbage stores in them.
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It's like croissant sandwiches that all have fruit flies.
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And like board games and calendars.
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What?
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There's a whole store dedicated to board games and calendars.
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And I've seen it at multiple malls.
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Are enough people buying board games and calendars?
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No.
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And they're overpriced.
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I feel like maybe there's money laundering.
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Maybe that's what's happening.
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That definitely could be.
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Conspiracies.
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Dun-dun.
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All right, now back to normal TikTok.
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All right, so I've been watching TikTok.
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Who here has heard of Ballerina Farm?
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They can't see you raising your hand.
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I'm raising my hand.
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And only because I just heard about her, not because I've heard about her before.
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But Ballerina Farm is this TikTok and Instagram account run by Hannah Neelman.
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But it's also an actual functioning farm out of Utah.
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I wrote down where in.
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I think Utah is sufficient.
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Utah is sufficient because I can't read my own writing.
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But this girl, Hannah Neelman, a little bit of a backstory for her.
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She was studying to be a ballerina at Juilliard back in the day.
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I don't know when.
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Prior to 2018, I'm going to say.
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All right.
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Well, she's got like eight kids.
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So yeah.
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Hey, sorry.
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Don't spoil it.
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I'm sorry I spoiled it.
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So she was a ballerina at Juilliard when she came upon this man named Daniel Neelman.
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And he is the son of David Neelman, who's the founder of JetBlue.
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He wanted to date her.
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She said no for like six months.
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Eventually, he stalked her.
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Yeah, I don't want to say he fully stalked her, but he did figure out that she was flying
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from New York to Salt Lake City and bought a plane ticket that was directly next to her.
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You know, super creepy, super creepy.
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And they ended up going on a date.
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And she said, I would like to date for a year, which is a normal amount of time for she's
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she grew up Mormon.
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They're both Mormon.
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It's a traditional amount of time for someone of that faith to
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Plus they're very young at this point.
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Oh, yeah.
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She hasn't even graduated college.
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Right.
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She wanted to date for a year.
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He said pass.
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He's only two years older than her.
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But he was like, I need to be married and engaged now.
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So they were engaged after a month.
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After two months, they were married.
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And after I think three months, they were having they were expecting their first child.
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Quick turnaround time.
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Quick turnaround.
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She birthed her first son and then graduated.
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And then they moved to Brazil for his job.
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And then she popped out a couple more kids in Brazil.
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Now she has a total of eight kids.
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She is homesteading running this farm with her husband in Utah.
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They have a website.
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They sell all their meat, eggs, milk on a website, etc.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how farms work, but she's super popular on TikTok and Instagram.
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Between those two platforms, she has over 18 million followers.
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She also got really popular because with her last daughter, she had two due dates.
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So she had her actual due date when she was supposed to birth that kid.
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And then two weeks, I think, after she birthed that kid, she was in a pageant because she
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does pageants.
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So she was Mrs. American 2023.
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And then she participated in Mrs. World.
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And that was in January 2024.
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So she had her kid and then boom was in this pageant.
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Ouch.
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Yeah.
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I guess they didn't realize that maybe this is going to sound bad, but that they had pageants
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for middle aged women.
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Yeah, Mrs. I guess.
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Yeah.
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I wouldn't call her middle aged.
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It depends on how long she's planning on living.
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She's older than us, I think.
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Well, I hope so.
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With eight children, I can't imagine having it.
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But if she started that young, she's probably not that much older than us.
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She might be your age.
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As a personal story, shut up.
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As a personal story, our great grandmother got married when she was 14 and started popping
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out kids very quickly.
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So to us, eight kids anywhere near the age group that we're in is insane.
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But you look at that just a couple of generations ago and she had, I'm not sure how many kids
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there were.
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A lot.
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A lot of kids.
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Very, very young.
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I mean, by the time she hit my age, she had all of her kids.
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You could be a grandmother.
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Shut up.
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I've been bringing up my birthday lately, so I'm going to bring up yours.
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I know that this is ridiculous at my age and you all will never know what it is.
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I think we've actually said it before.
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It's a mystery that will remain a mystery at my 97 years of age.
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People like my friends around my age saying that they're having babies, starting a family,
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yada, yada, yada.
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I'm like, whoa!
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And I'm old.
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I had kids so many years ago.
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It should be normal, but my brain still can't wrap around it.
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I'm like, you can do that.
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You're still a kid.
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Well, some of us are still kids.
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Some of us are as immature as kids.
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And I'm talking about myself.
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So the controversy with Hannah came about through an article and it was, I believe,
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the UK Times.
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I just heard it was The Times.
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I think it was the UK Times.
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Megan Agnaw is the author.
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Journalist.
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Okay.
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The writer.
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The interviewer.
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The person.
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So she went and sat with the family and I think spent a couple days there.
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Just one day.
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I think so.
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And just kind of observed them, as you do if you're writing an article on someone.
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She interviewed them.
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She watched them live their lives.
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And then went back and wrote an article that has become very controversial.
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And this just came out.
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So July 20th, 2024 is when this article came out.
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So the article strongly implied, I'm going to say, that Hannah had given up her life
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dreams of being a ballerina.
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She wanted to be a professional dancer.
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And she chose not to do that so that she could follow her husband where he wanted to go,
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farm because that's what he wanted to do, and have eight babies because that's what
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was expected of her, whether from her family or her religion or her husband.
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One of the pieces that I saw said that she, and this is not that relevant, but I just
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thought it was hilarious.
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She was like, you know, we got married and we talked about having kids and we both want
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kids because I guess they both come from families of like nine children.
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And so they want a big family.
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And she was like, we just left it up to God.
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Whenever God wanted to give us children, that was fine.
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And God created anatomy and biology, sister.
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Do you know how that works?
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Well, she goes, we didn't expect it just a couple months later.
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I was like, once again, have you had the conversation of the birds and the beast?
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Right?
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Did we not talk about this?
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Come on.
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Now, I understand that hyper religious families don't necessarily teach sex ed super well,
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but I think after the first three, you might figure something out.
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Seriously, birth control.
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And you know, if you want a huge family, there's nothing wrong with that at all.
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Have all the babies that you want to have.
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But to say, well, we just, we left it in God's hands, but we didn't expect it so soon.
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You're going to end up like the Duggars.
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Come on.
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They still want more kids.
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They've said they want more kids.
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But Hannah has part of her social media presence is that she is, they call her the queen of
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the trad wives.
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That was the name of the article too.
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Yeah.
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And that's where a lot of the controversy lies is that she is on social media, on YouTube,
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promoting this very domestic, very male centered lifestyle.
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Where I watched a couple of her videos and she makes dinner.
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There's so many people at the table.
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They all eat, they destroy everything.
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And then the kids go off and they do whatever they're going to do.
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He disappears.
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I don't know where he went.
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And she has to sit there and clean everything.
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And from what I can tell, hand wash everything because they're homesteaders.
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So she's hand washing all the dishes.
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She's putting everything away and it's a time lapse.
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So you can see nobody's coming in to help her.
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And at one point she's also holding the baby while doing the dishes, while dealing with
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all of this stuff.
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You're telling me her husband couldn't come and hold the baby.
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Well, he was dealing with seven others maybe, but those others are doing their own thing.
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That's the rest of the video is the kids.
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Don't get me wrong with nine children, there's going to be a lot of chaos.
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Is it eight?
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I'm sorry.
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Eight children.
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There's going to be a lot of chaos.
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Less chaos than nine perhaps, but still quite a lot.
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I think it's just really difficult because you are so wildly outnumbered.
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One of the things that came out of that article was, now this seems very foreign to me, but
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the idea of having nannies.
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They have billions of dollars, they have tons and tons of money and tons and tons of children.
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And people were like, well, why don't you get some nannies?
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Gosh dang it.
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Well, the husband is very against nannies.
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So people were like, but Hannah's raising all eight on her own.
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And it's like, they are her children.
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So yes.
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But something that he said in response in the article that, I don't know how to say
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her name, Agnew.
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I think it's Agnew.
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In the article we're discussing.
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In the article that we're discussing, she writes that Hannah cares for all eight children
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without the help of a nanny.
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And her husband, Daniel, told Agnew, the journalist, that quote, Hannah sometimes becomes so ill
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from exhaustion that she can't get out of bed for a week.
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Which is crazy to me because not only is she caring for all these children, they also,
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a homeschool to my knowledge.
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I think they might bring someone in to help with the homeschooling, but regardless, those
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kids are always in the house.
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And she is cooking clean and doing all of that.
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But she also runs the farm.
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So she's taking care of, like, they have chickens and they have, they just started a dairy.
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It's a full blown fricking farm.
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And also she manages her social media accounts, which is a ton of work.
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And it does bring in money.
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But that is a ton of work.
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The girl never stops.
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I think my response as the husband would be like, girl, sit down.
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Let's calm down.
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Let's order a pizza.
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Can I make dinner instead?
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Or not even, forget that.
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Don't ask.
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Just start making dinner.
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It's not something to brag about that your wife is so exhausted from life.
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From her life.
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That she can't get out of bed for a week.
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That's sad.
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At the end of the day, it is abuse.
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That's what it is.
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And now Hannah has come out with some statements after the fact that I think it's important
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to address and talk about because she says that the article presented things in a very
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untrue light.
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And that she's not being abused, that she made these decisions for herself on her own.
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She didn't just make them to make him happy.
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And that she loves the life that she has.
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She loves her kids.
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She loves raising them.
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She did a video and then she also did an article, like a blog on their website.
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And I want to say that we are not criticizing anyone that wants to be a stay at home mom.
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Anyone that wants to have eight children.
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I know we make it sound like it's so overwhelming, but my gosh, it's got to be overwhelming for
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me personally.
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I cannot imagine.
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But if that is what you want, if that's where you feel like God is leading you, go for it.
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If you want to have a farm and turn your own butter, more power to you.
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Absolutely.
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No issues with that.
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No shade.
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Do your thing.
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No shade.
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No shame.
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I think the problem in this instance lies in choice.
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Did she have a choice?
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One of the people that I was listening to, she said, can you give up your own agency?
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Can you say to someone else, you have full power and control over me from here on out?
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To me that sounds unbiblical.
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Because you're putting that person before God at the end of the day.
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God made you.
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He cares about you.
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He cares about that other person too, but that to me seems like it's a not okay thing
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to do.
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I'm very 50 shades and that freaks me out.
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Well, I think that falls under, I don't know if you guys have ever seen this, but there's
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a very famous depiction from the, it's from Bill Gothard, who was like a famous very,
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very conservative horrifying.
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Bill!
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Not that Bill.
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I hate you so I always will.
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And it's an umbrella.
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So at the top there's God and God, I don't know, is there.
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And then there's-
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Wow, this is descriptive.
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Shut up.
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Maybe we'll post a picture of it.
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There's an umbrella and it's God.
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And so God is like overlapping everybody.
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And then there's a slightly smaller umbrella and that's the husband.
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And there's a slightly smaller umbrella and that's the wife.
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And there's a slightly smaller umbrella and that's the kids.
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You can look it up, it'll make more sense.
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But that's what it reminds me of, is like I'm going to put my husband on this pedestal
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where he protects me and I assume that he is following what God wants both of us to
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do.
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As opposed to me having my own choice, my own agency and saying, well this is what God
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is telling me that I need or that our kids need or that we need.
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Like sometimes it's okay to say, God is telling me this for both of us, what's he telling
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you?
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Communication?
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What?
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Miracles.
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So I think it's such an interesting concept to think, can you make a decision in your
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life, the choice to get married to a particular person, that says you get to control me forever.
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You get to tell me what to do, you get to tell me that I can't have a nanny, you get
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to tell me whether I can have an epidural or not, because that's another controversy
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that was in the article.
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You can tell me where we're going to live and whether I'm going to leave my career and
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all of these things.
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Is that okay?
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Are we as a society okay with one decision defining all of those things for somebody?
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And obviously we can't step in for her, she's going to make the decisions she's going to
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make, but when it comes to allowing her to be an influencer, someone that influences
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young girls, young boys, are we okay with that?
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I'm not okay with that.
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Yeah.
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I mean she's influencing 18 million people.
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That is a lot of people.
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That's a lot of people.
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And one of the other things that I wanted to talk about too is her situation in life.
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The tradwife movement idealizes stay at home moms and traditional marriage, which means
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female submission, which means men make the decisions, etc. etc.
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We talk about it all the time.
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And in making that the ideal position for a woman, it's easy to do when you're a millionaire.
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She married into a millionaire family.
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I don't know their net worth.
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I don't know, but they're loaded.
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I mean they own a whole airline.
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Lots of people own planes.
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They own an airline.
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And when you have that kind of money, you have a lot of freedom.
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If she chooses to divorce this man someday because he is whatever, because if she decides
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that this is an abusive situation or whatever, that she leaves him, number one, she's probably
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going to get a solid divorce settlement.
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She's going to get a lot of money out of this.
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Number two, she has a social media following.
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So she really does have a job that she's going to make money at.
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Financially, she's doing okay while saying, be a stay at home mom.
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Quit your job.
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You don't need to make money.
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She's making all kinds of money.
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Other women in less financially stable situations.
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Her influences.
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Yes.
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Let's say they follow what she does and they quit their jobs and they are fully financially
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dependent on their spouse.
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Now they don't have the option to leave.
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If he becomes abusive, if he abuses his power, she can't leave.
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She can, but it's going to be very difficult.
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She's going to have to look to family.
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She's going to have to look to charities.
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She's going to have to look to a lot of places to help financially support her in this divorce
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situation.
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Right.
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Whereas, if she had a stable job, if she had some independence, if she had a community
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outside of her husband.
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Or the people that she was looking to be influenced from encouraged her to be strong, to not just
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make decisions because a man or someone else told you to do so.
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You are strong.
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You are valued.
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You are worth more.
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Maybe she would make a different choice.
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And I'm not saying, again, again and again and again.
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If your choice is to be a homemaker, if that's something that you feel God is calling you
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to do, awesome.
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Do it.
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But I think don't hold it up as the gold standard for all women.
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For all women.
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Just because you're a woman means that you must enjoy cooking and cleaning and birthing
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babies without epidurals.
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No one enjoys birthing babies.
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I mean, maybe there's like two people that do, but it is a bad time.
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Okay, we got to talk about why we're talking about this though, because she has had eight
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children.
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And the interviewer was talking to her and she's like, so you had all of these without
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any epidurals, any pain medication, whatever, yada yada yada.
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And she's like, yes.
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And her husband had left the room at that point and she whispered to the interviewer,
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she was like, except for one of her daughters, I think her name was Martha, because she actually
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had her at a hospital.
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She's like, I had an epidural with that one because I ran two weeks late and she was a
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10 pound baby and it was the best experience ever.
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And Daniel was gone.
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And she specifically mentioned her husband wasn't there.
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She had an epidural and it was the best birthing experience of her life.
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Well I believe she's made a statement about that particular part of the article too.
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And she said, she didn't whisper it because he left the room and he didn't want her to
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hear him because that's how the article made it sound.
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She said, I whispered because he got a phone call and so he left the room and I didn't
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want to bother his phone call.
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No, I can't sit here and say, oh yeah, absolutely.
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She's lying.
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I can't do that.
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That doesn't sound the most logical to me, simply because his phone call is a whole lot
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less important than your interview.
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And why would you feel the need to mention it at all that your husband was gone for that
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birth?
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Right.
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I would just be like, yeah, except for this 10 pound baby that I had to push out, I had
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to get drugged up for that one.
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And the concept behind that is that he believes in natural birth, correct?
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I don't really know.
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I'm making assumptions that he does.
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I don't really think he gets a choice.
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Well, if he's not pushing it out his Vagene, then that's what kills me is women, whatever
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birthing experience you want to have, it is your decision.
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If you want to stay at home and have your baby in a bathtub, as long as you have some
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medical professionals there, please, please do that for me.
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But do it like do that.
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That is your experience.
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You have had to carry this child for nine months.
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You have to push it out of your body.
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It's a bad time.
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Yeah.
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So do it however you want to do it.
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If you want to do it in a hospital with 45 doctors and an epidural, that would be my
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recommendation.
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45.
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45.
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No nurses, all doctors.
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Actually, the nurses are way better.
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I trust the nurses.
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I had a midwife for my son and it was great.
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She was wonderful.
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She was so kind and helpful the whole time.
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So maybe midwives.
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Maybe that's the way to go.
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I didn't like her.
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You didn't like the one that was there when I had him.
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All I know is I was forced to hold a leg and now I will never have children.
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Adoption is always an option for you.
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A big fan of adoption.
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I feel like something that was brought up through this article coming out through all
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of the drama is women have dreams.
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I don't know if you noticed, but women and men both equally have dreams.
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More often than not in our society, it seems like women are forced to balance their dreams
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with maybe their family's dreams and pick which ones work best for them.
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Usually, they put their family first.
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You don't really see that a lot with men because their jobs are to do their nine to five.
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That's their dream.
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Their dream is their job, not their family.
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Whereas women are told their dreams are their family.
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I think we can tie that really nicely into a TikTok that Brie made recently.
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It's great.
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You guys should go watch it.
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I highly encourage not watching it.
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There was a statement made aboutâ¦
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I'm not going to mention any names because I just don't want to deal with that, but
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one politician made a statement about another politician.
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Oh, well listen, tell me more.
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He called herâ¦
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It was a middle-aged man, right?
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He called her a single cat lady?
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What was the exact statement?
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Childless cat lady.
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Childless cat lady.
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Childless cat lady.
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And when I heard that, and I don't really think it matters what side of the political
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spectrum you fall on, would you ever say that about a man who had focused on his career?
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Oh, that's a childless cat man.
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Why is it an insult for someone to be childless?
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I have no tiny clue.
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It is not.
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She made a choice to focus on her dreams, her career, what she wanted out of life, and
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that is as valid as a woman making a choice to have children and make that her goal.
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You don't get to judge someone based on that choice specifically.
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You don't know the backstory of it either.
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Maybe she's not able to.
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And regardless, whether it was the ability to or whether it was a choice on her part,
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it's none of your business.
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None of your business.
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And her ability to bear children has nothing to do with her ability to lead.
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Any women.
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Not just her.
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All women.
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Right.
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Yeah, and I think we're not trying to make a political statement here.
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We're simply trying to make a statement about women because our value is so often tied to
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our ability to or choice to have children and raise them and homestead and do all, you
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know, cook and clean and do all of these things that we see these TradWive influencers doing.
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And the fact that it's coming out as an insult in such a public political arena is so disheartening.
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I feel like I feel more enraged just because I am childless.
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You're not a cat lady though.
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I'm not a cat.
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I don't really like cats.
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But just the thought that someone thinks that my value is any less because I don't have
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children.
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I get that question constantly.
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When are you having kids?
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When are you going to start birthing kids?
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But my value is not tied to my, if any, future children.
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Right.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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You hope that because we talk about things from a Christian perspective.
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We talk about things from the church world and whatever.
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And there's a part of me that because we're a little bit insulated and we talk about specifically
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this feminism concept within the church, you have this hope that all of this misogyny and
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garbage is not happening in the greater world.
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And that's why it's so important that we're speaking out about it still.
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You think like, okay, Susan B. Anthony did her job way back in the day.
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It was Susan B. Anthony, right?
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She's one of them.
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But it is still happening today.
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And I think we want, this is the legacy that we leave is being able to speak out and Susan
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B. Anthony could take one step, but she couldn't take the amount of steps that we can take.
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And then her daughter could take an extra step and her daughter could take another one.
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And so it's important that we not forget that the world is still not perfect, that misogyny
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is still out there, that patriarchy is still out there and happening to so many women.
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And so we continue to take those steps forward because feminism isn't women should be above
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everyone else and let's have a matriarchy.
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It's equality.
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Can we finally just have equality?
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Please.
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Like I said, that's hard.
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I saw a TikTok that, oh, shock.
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And we're ending on TikTok.
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The other day, there was like, instead of asking someone if they're a feminist, we should
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start asking people if they're misogynist.
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Because we should just assume that people are.
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Oh my gosh.
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Like you're for equality, right?
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Oh, are you not?
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I think that's hilarious.
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All right.
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So guys, your homework for the week.
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Yeah.
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What?
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And ask someone if they're misogynist.
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Oh boy.
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Our daughters daughters will adore us.
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That's really stuck in my head right now.
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I don't believe you.
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Okay.
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So next week we are going to be starting.
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I don't even want to call this series a two parter.
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Oh, the best thing's always coming to me.
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What?
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I think you never liked.
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You're so weird.
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So we're going to talk about our different roles in the church.
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So Bree's going to be up first because I decided that she has to go first.
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I'm the oldest I get to decide.
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What?
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We've had so many podcasts about that not being true.
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So she's going to talk about singleness in the church and what that looks like for her
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from her perspective.
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I'll still be here, but mostly she has to talk.
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Honestly, she can leave.
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She has no idea.
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I really don't.
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I got married when I was 21.
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And then we'll have a week of a mini episode that we have yet to decide about because those
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are supposed to be current events.
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And then we'll do me talking about being married in the church and what that looks like.
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So we hope you guys can get out.
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I have no idea.
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So we hope you guys will tune in for those.
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I think those will be really fun and interesting to talk about.
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Very informative.
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I don't know if fun is going to be the answer.
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I always say fun.
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Fun is not.
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I don't know that any of this is fun.
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Fun meaning may make you cry.
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Alright, so if you want to cry later, I had about two weeks.
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Tune in.
34:55
Tune in.
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One more thing that I wanted to say.
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Last week we said we were going to challenge ourselves every week to grow our listener
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base and we asked you guys if you would share with anybody that you knew in Canada.
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And we saw Canada pop up just this morning.
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I'm so excited and just so honored and blessed that you guys wanted to share like that.
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So this week I think our challenge is going to be anybody that knows anyone in Australia.
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We would love to see that little flag pop up on there.
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I think that would be super fun.
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So please do share it with them.
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Please do share it with anybody that you think would be interested in our faith and feminism
35:33
topic.
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Additionally, yesterday we hit a thousand downloads and we are so beyond excited about
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that.
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My daughter made us a sign.
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It was super cute.
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And we're just, I don't know, super blessed that you guys want to be on this journey with
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us and we hope that you'll continue to hang out in the future and listen to more crazy
35:54
fun things that we have to say.
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Not fun.
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Crazy intense things that we have to say.
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Alright, well we'll see you guys later.
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We're going to go eat some dinner.
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Oh, I'm so hungry.
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I made bread.
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Thank you.
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You tried my...
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Shut up.
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Okay, goodbye.