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#101 - Conversations From The Abyss · The Chris and Mike Show

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  I know, I know you can, man, I know you can.
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  Oh oh shit, we're live and I totally didn't have the.
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  News going on live, ladies. And gentlemen, that was that was
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  a little behind the scenes like, you know, because I hit the
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  button to go. I have another behind the scenes
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  question. OK, OK.
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  Where's our names? Where Oh my name I can see my
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  name? Oh, I can't see mine.
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  You can't see Mike. It's right there, man.
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  Mother, it's not online, but that's.
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  Weird, weird, weird, weird, wacky stuff, man.
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  Because every man would say weird wacky stuff.
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  Or is that Johnny? Johnny Carson weird wacky stuff.
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  Whose? Line was that was that Johnny's
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  line? I don't know, man.
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  I don't know. That's a good that's a good
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  conversation to have later. So we got to start the show off
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  with, with this by far one of my favorite intros to a television
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  series. OK.
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  And I'm going to, I'm just going to bust out on this cause 'cause
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  it's, it's in my head and I can hear it.
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  Before we came on, I was singing to myself.
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  So making your way in the world today takes everything you've
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  got. Taking a break from all your
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  worries sure would help a lot. Wouldn't you like to get away
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  sometimes? We want to go where everybody
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  knows your name. I'm out of key and they're
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  always glad you came. Dun Dun, Dun.
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  You want to be where you can see which I was all the same.
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  You want to be where everybody knows your name and.
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  If you don't know that, you've been living under a rock.
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  Rice right, so today is yeah right.
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  So today's March, May 20th and we lost George Went, who was
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  famously known as Norm on Cheers, 78 years old, I think it
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  said. Great character.
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  Great, great fucking character and A and A and and a staple of
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  a character, right? Like you.
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  You think of Cheers. I always think of Norm.
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  I don't know about anybody else and maybe a little bit of Cliff,
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  but it's more Norm to me. Absolutely.
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  He's the first character that comes to mind for me for sure.
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  And then Cliff sitting next to him, and then sitting behind the
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  bar and yeah. Yeah, I never, I never really
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  liked Ted Danson. I still don't really like him as
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  as an actor. He kind of seems like one of
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  those pompous, arrogant, narcissistic fucks.
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  I mean I could be wrong. No, I there's something about
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  him. I'm trying to even think of a
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  series that I liked him in. See, that's it.
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  All you, all you think about him is.
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  Cheers. I guess that's.
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  Like he's, he's done other stuff.
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  He's he's intolerated. Him in.
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  Cheers, right. Yeah, I can.
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  I can see the things that he's done, but I can't, I can't name
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  them now, unfortunately. He's in the remake of Naked Gun.
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  The Naked Gun, You know, police squad shit.
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  He's playing Leslie. Nelson's.
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  Character. Yeah, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm
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  sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Liam Neeson's doing that.
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  Liam Neeson I, I think of the, I think, I think of the same
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  because there's a thing on Netflix that has Ted Danson on
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  it and he's kind of right and he kind of looks.
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  Liam Neeson is cool. He is cool, but Ted Danson's on
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  has this thing on Netflix I think where you see him and he
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  looks like he's he's playing the Liam Neeson character.
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  And I was just like, no, fuck, please don't.
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  Please don't, Please don't, don't, don't be that guy.
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  Just don't be that guy, you know?
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  It's all about the dollars, buddy.
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  It's all about the dollars. Right.
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  It is, you know, So yeah, that's that's what happened today,
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  Norm. Norm has passed away.
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  Yeah, I don't know how I missed that.
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  Did that like just happened? Or it just it just happened in
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  the last hour so I just randomly I've been.
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  Oh, that's why. I've been responding the
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  respondents of stuff on Reddit, real estate post and shit, kind
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  of educating the masses and did a blog.
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  I made a handful of videos marketing and shit and it just
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  it popped up. No, normally Georgia went died,
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  you know, so. Yeah, definitely a staple of
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  American sitcom television for sure.
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  Yeah. Yeah, he was one of those
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  character actors that that basically took his spot, you
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  know, like, like owned it, owned his, owned his character for
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  sure. Yeah, if you watch the show like
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  you and I did, you can totally see in your mind there he is
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  sitting at the barn, right? Just totally had that.
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  He had that posture totally that defined his character for sure.
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  Yeah, absolutely. And and and and then some
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  because again, you know, Sam was there and the Sam and Diane
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  thing on Cheers was kind of cool, you know, for a while, but
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  it's just, it kind of got old. It's it's just like, OK, you
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  know, it's, I mean, I get every TV show needs to have a
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  relationship in it because it's got to draw in all, all the
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  demographics and women like relationships and shit.
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  And you know, my, my, my cohort on Co host on on my radio show
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  Real Talk USA, Margie, she was actually on cheers.
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  She was an extra in the background.
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  That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, she has all kinds.
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  She had all kinds of fun stories.
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  I love those little. Claim to fame.
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  Yeah, growing up in in California and then she worked
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  she she's, I can drop some of these.
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  So she worked at a, at a, at a movie studio.
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  I don't know, we'll just call it Warner Brothers for lack of
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  better name. And she would go on her smoke
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  break. I don't know what her role was,
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  but one of the time she went on her smoke break, she was Outback
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  smoke with Alec Baldwin, you know, back before he killed
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  somebody. Said he was quick, quick waited.
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  Like you wouldn't believe like that dude.
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  Just you say something and boom, he's right back at you firing.
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  OK, there you go. How?
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  How do you feel about that subject?
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  About him shooting that dude in the in the movie, Yeah.
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  OK. So if you got to go back in time
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  a little bit. Like you know, I have, you know
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  I have an opinion about everything.
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  I do. I do so, so but this, but I'm
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  going to preface it with I'm going to preface it with this.
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  Remember the movie The Crow with Brandon Lee, Bruce Lee's son?
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  Yeah, I've seen it about 100 times for.
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  Sure, great movie, great movie, fantastic.
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  He was he was killed in in the movie with with it wasn't it
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  wasn't real bullets, but it was enough.
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  There was enough bullets being fired at him that the shards
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  ended up piercing skin and killing him because they're
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  using blanks and blanks still discharge.
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  It's not just when you have a gun, you still have a bullet
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  coming out. It's just not loaded with
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  gunpowder and shit. It's, you know, that should have
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  taught everybody in the movie industry gun safety on a grand
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  scale because Brandon Lee was just breaking into the scene.
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  He was. He's legend.
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  His father's a legend. Right.
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  I told her to remember that story.
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  Yeah, and it was, it was a great, it was a great movie.
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  And he was, I mean, he, he, he was a good looking human.
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  He was ripped. He I mean, just everything.
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  He would have been a superstar for sure.
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  Yes, he would have been an action superstar hero type
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  thing. So, so with the Alec Baldwin
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  thing, we don't know anything but what we've read and seen and
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  heard. But if he's messing around with
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  a gun, a prop gun, nonetheless, he's still messing around with a
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  gun and not handling it properly and then it accidentally goes
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  off and kills somebody. I, I got to call BS on that.
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  He should have, he should have got in trouble for that because
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  he was, he was holding a prop gun and playing with it.
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  So right. I'm going to stop you right
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  there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Because here's how I feel about it.
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  OK. You know that I had to pick one
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  or the other, right? I like, I went out shooting guns
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  with the first guy that sang and played bass in our band.
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  He he was really into it. Took Scott and I out to the
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  desert several times, got us into shooting guns.
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  It was a blast. But I had to choose between do I
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  want to have nicer musical equipment or be a gun collector
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  because they cost about the same amount of money, right?
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  Guns are expensive. They are I don't my point of
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  this long winded. No, it's not long.
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  It's just you and I, man. Is thank you.
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  My point is I don't really know a whole lot about gun safety
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  other than the little bit that I learned for that six month
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  period before, you know, we moved on as a different band.
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  But right, right. I know enough.
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  When you pick up a gun, you check everything before you ever
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  think about firing that weapon, right?
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  Is the safety on? Is it loaded properly?
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  You know blah blah blah blah. Is all the safety checks done
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  first before you even think about pointing that gun anywhere
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  but at a target, right? Exactly.
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  That's just the way that Mike laid it out.
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  That way you don't kill anybody. We only shoot in this direction
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  and we do all these things before we point the gun at the
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  target. So he my point is he should have
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  checked to make sure that there weren't live rounds in that gun.
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  Absolutely. And who put the lab rounds in
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  the gun to begin with? Because, again, it's a prop gun
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  on a movie set that has no business.
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  They never did. Did they ever figure that out?
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  I don't know. Because if he didn't load the
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  gun, he's for surely 50% responsible.
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  But then the. Person negligent homicide.
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  There you go. Negligent homicide?
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  Absolutely, like you, you load it or not, you have the gun in
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  your hand. If if somebody comes to my house
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  and, and I get my shotgun out right and, and, and we struggle,
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  they take my shotgun, he ends up killing me in my house and he's
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  the intruder. It's not, it's not murder, it's
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  self-defense, but it's still, it's still, it's a homicide
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  thing because it's, you know, breaking in and all that kind of
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  jazz. You know it's you.
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  You still neglected. I don't know if that was the
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  best example, but you still neglected to maintain a level of
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  safety. That was a horrible example.
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  Just so you know, that I call you out, just.
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  I'm not going to sugarcoat shit. Yeah, that was a.
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  Horrible I was there. Terrible I was.
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  I was trying. To because you would have been
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  let off on self-defense. The guy broke in your home and
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  you had the absolute right to defend yourself, especially in
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  the great state of Arizona. Right.
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  But if you took where? It's going kind of like the Wild
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  West. Right.
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  But if you took my gun from me, then he killed me, would that
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  still be relevant? Would that still be?
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  Then it's murder. Right.
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  Why? Is it murder?
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  Or is it? He killed you with your own gun.
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  Still murder, but who? But he was self defending
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  himself right? No, he's in here.
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  He broke in your house. You would be the greatest
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  defense lawyer in the history of the fucking world.
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  He's arguing against himself. The judge would be like, you
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  win. I'm fucking confused.
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  That's awesome. No?
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  For surely murder. He took your gun from you and
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  then shot you in your own home. Unless you're going to claim
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  that he's going to claim squatter's rights at this point.
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  Right. Yeah, right.
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  No, I live here, Officer. No, I I just moved in right
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  after this guy died. That's funny, man.
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  That's that's so funny. Now you know why we're into
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  serial killers. Ladies and gentlemen, it's.
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  Just right. Oh dude.
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  The Ed, right? Speaking of serial killers, the
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  Ed Gaines stories coming out this month on on Netflix.
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  So sweet, right? It's supposed to.
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  Be really dark and disturbing. Yeah, it's supposed to be very
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  dark and disturbing, so we'll we'll see I.
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  Don't think it has a happy ending.
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  I don't think so either. I it's, I'm, I'm the one thing
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  about him. I've seen stuff on him, but
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  they've never made a movie about him.
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  So that that I think it's going to be the interesting part of
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  it. Did you see they're making a a
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  Tyson movie with Jamie Foxx and Christian Bale?
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  No, no, no, no. Yeah.
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  OK. So that was I saw that the other
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  day. Jamie Foxx.
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  No, I'm sorry, Sammy. Jamie Foxx and Samuel Jackson.
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  Samuel Jackson, I think is playing Don King and Jamie Foxx
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  is playing Tyson. The other movie I'm I'm thinking
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  about with Christian Bale is Christian Bale and Nicholas Cage
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  are playing John Madden and Al Davis Cage.
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  Right, Nicholas, I know, but still, man, Nicholas Cage, he's
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  one of those dudes that I mean, you love him or hate him 'cause
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  he fucking does. He doesn't turn anything down
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  right? But like I do image.
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  I do like a lot of his movies. For yeah, I do too, and his and
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  his. I don't know if it's got to be
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  prosthetics and shit, because he's huge.
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  He's mad and huge in this thing. I saw picture for it.
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  Yeah, yeah. So I think I think that's going
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  to be good because it'll be cool to see what for sure what what I
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  I want to see the dynamic of Davis and Madden because,
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  because that would be cool. Because obviously it's it's just
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  starting with Madden's coaching years.
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  And then I'm going to assume it leads into the broadcast booth
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  because why wouldn't it be stupid if it didn't?
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  But that'll be interesting to see what kind of human he was,
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  at least on that aspect. There was somebody recently
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  telling, and I wish I got to write these things down.
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  They're told the best Al Davis story ever, and it had to do
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  with the draft, like he screwed some kid from going somewhere
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  else. Yeah, I can't remember how it
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  went down, but I was like, holy crap, that guy was gangster.
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  Oh, like that kind of gangster. Yeah, like the the kid would
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  ended up somewhere else that he probably wanted to go and
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  somehow Al Davis went in and did some kind of underhanded deal
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  with the draft. And you know, things were
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  different back then. Well, that I think, but there's
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  I still think there's Slim Shady shit going on though on a whole
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  question. You know, like, I mean, just
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  everybody wants to say the whole shudder.
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  Sanders, you know, dropped to the fifth round was the NFL and
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  you know, the whole nonsense of that.
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  But what I think it really was, nobody gives a damn who your dad
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  is right at that level for sure. No, no, you're not.
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  I don't. I mean, because there's plenty
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  of sons that have played the that join the NFL that you don't
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  hear about because they're not as good as their fathers were.
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  And there's some that are there's some that are kind of,
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  you know, close to it, but not right.
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  There's I saw something last week because you being a
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  baseball fan, Cecil Fielder, right?
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  So there's the third generation of the Fielder families now
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  playing baseball. Yes.
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  Yeah, that's that. Now that's legit.
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  But he still had to work his way up.
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  It was absolutely, it wasn't like you're just drafted to the
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  majors and you're starting tomorrow.
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  You still got to you still got to put your time in.
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  And I think that's what what the Sanders family was thinking,
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  that that Shadir was just going to walk on and be a number one
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  pick overall, which, yeah, you if you don't have the skill set
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  and all the stuff that came out afterwards, too, he wasn't
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  prepared. He he was interviewing the
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  coaches instead of letting them interview him in the arrogance
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  and the narcissism. And he eventually fired his dad
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  as his agent. So what does that tell you?
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  That tells you a lot. Tells you everything.
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  When I heard that, I was like, huh, you know, I, I don't know,
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  maybe I wanted to. I don't think I wanted to see a
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  different side than you when we've been talking about this.
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  But I'm glad you brought that up, because when I read that I
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  was like, holy shit, yeah, OK, now I'm on Chris's side on this
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  because that speaks volumes when everyone thinks there's some
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  kind of nepotism or whatever going on and all of a sudden
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  that was the. Word.
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  That was the word. It here's a here's a good
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  correlation in the music world. I just read an article with
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  Wolfgang Van Halen and one of the questions that the guy asked
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  him and I would want to ask him this too.
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  Sure. Did your dad teach you how to
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  play guitar? You know, anybody would want to
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  know that Eddie Van Halen was one of the greatest guitar
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  players on the planet, and he flat out says no.
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  My dad was a horrible teacher. He was a great.
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  Player, but he couldn't teach for shit because he would just
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  play it real fast and say you do it like this.
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  But he could never slow it down enough to where he could grasp
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  it as a young child to pick it up.
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  You got to slow things down to like, you know, so less than
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  half speed, maybe 1/3. So imagine being in that room,
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  right? Eddie Van Halen sitting over
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  there in the recliner. You got Mike the guitar teacher
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  sitting there looking at Wolfgang, facing each other with
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  the chairs. And you're showing them how you
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  know the hit the the the frets and shit.
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  We just did a lot of that. Oh, did he?
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  Yeah, right on. And then looking over and seeing
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  Eddie, like just eyeing you, like, what are you fucking
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  teaching my son, man? Who?
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  Who? That's not right.
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  That's wrong. Because, you know, he was a
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  control freak. He had to be for who he was.
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  You know, from a music standpoint.
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  Not I'm saying, you know, a lifelong, but from a music
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  standpoint. I didn't know de Weasel Zappa
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  taught him how to play guitar. That was cool.
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  He didn't teach him I'm, he was pretty well self-taught, but I
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  think that they hung out and, you know, like he picked up some
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  things from him because Eddie and de Weasel had been friends
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  forever. Oh see, I didn't know that.
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  Oh yeah. I did not know that.
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  I'm pretty sure, for example, lived in that neighborhood.
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  OK, yeah, I know. I know.
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  Wolfgang, like his dad, plays everything.
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  Eddie gave De Weasel his first guitar.
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  Oh, no shit. Yeah, I did not know that weird
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  wild stuff on the Venice night show.
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  Johnny Caution. Do you like Johnny Caution?
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  Yeah. Wolfgang stuff that was.
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  Oh yeah. I try every now and then.
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  I can get it every now and then. I can get my little accents
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  right off. I have I his new his new song is
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  kind of fun. It's it's it's you remember that
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  movie Till dusk, till dusk, from dusk till dawn with with George
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  Clooney. Yeah.
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  Yeah, right. Wasn't Antonio Banderas and.
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  That yes, he was. Yes, he was.
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  So was, so was the, I forget his name now, the bad Lieutenant
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  Actor Harvey Keitel. Great freaking actor.
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  Oh, I love Harvey. Keitel.
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  If you ever saw bad Lieutenant, that's the epitome of Harvey
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  Keitel. Oh my gosh, there is also.
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  One, I've seen them all too. Yeah, just like Big Hackman and
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  clean the Eastwood Harvey Keitel.
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  I've seen all those. Movies.
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  Yeah, Mickey Rourke had one and and I just every time I think of
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  Harvey Keitel, Bad Lieutenant, I think of this Mickey Rourke one.
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  Well, he was a barfly. The movie is called Barfly.
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  I don't think it's so good, but I haven't been able to find it
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  for years, man. But it's called Barfly.
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  Like he legit plays this little gimpy, no offense world
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  character that, you know, is not all physically there.
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  And he's always searching for that one thing like, you know,
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  those people that just I need that one.
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  If I, if I hit the lottery, that's I'm, I'm set, man.
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  Oh yeah. And he's trying and he's trying
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  to put on this this boxing match.
• 18:08
  And if he if, you know, he's in debt up to his eyeballs and
• 18:12
  everybody's after him. And but I mean, he's Mickey
• 18:14
  Rourke was was brilliant. He's a brilliant actor, man.
• 18:17
  I wish he never did the freaking plastic surgery because it just
• 18:19
  destroyed his face. But totally agree.
• 18:22
  Great actor, man. The wrestler.
• 18:24
  You've had to seen the wrestler. He was epic in the wrestler.
• 18:27
  It was a great movie. But yeah, so Harvey Keitel was
• 18:31
  in it. So the video of his of his new
• 18:35
  song he just released, just kind of it kind of has that vibe to
• 18:38
  it. When the when when the the the
• 18:40
  bar turns and everybody starts turning the vampires and zombies
• 18:43
  and crap. Right.
• 18:45
  Miles Kennedy's in it. His head blows up.
• 18:47
  I saw that that's. Awesome because because when I
• 18:50
  watched I was like, like, that looks like Miles Kennedy.
• 18:52
  And that's what made me go watch it because I read I think it.
• 18:56
  Yeah, it was just a headline on Facebook that said Miles Kennedy
• 18:59
  appears in mammoth new video or whatever.
• 19:02
  Yeah, see, I, I see that. I saw it from the fact that I
• 19:05
  follow both of them and and Wolfgang had dropped something
• 19:08
  about or maybe Miles dropped something about going on tour
• 19:11
  with Wolfgang. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 19:13
  And then that just led me down the path of, well, Wolfgang his
• 19:18
  his second tour he opened for Alter Bridge.
• 19:20
  Yeah, like I when I saw I've. Been following his career from
• 19:24
  the beginning because, yeah, the thing that I appreciate about
• 19:27
  him is he is pretty much self-taught and he plays
• 19:31
  everything. He said.
• 19:32
  Like Alex showed him a couple things on drums and Michael
• 19:35
  might have showed him some things on bass or whatever, but
• 19:38
  for the most part it was just him.
• 19:40
  You know, his dad's out on tour with the rest of the guys and
• 19:43
  he's sitting at home. Hey, I got the coolest equipment
• 19:46
  in the history of mankind. To listen to his album and know
• 19:50
  that he's played everything on there is fascinating.
• 19:54
  He's the bass grader, he's the drummer, he's the background
• 19:57
  singer, he's the lead singer, he's the songwriter.
• 19:59
  That's impressive. Yes, and that's kind of like a
• 20:03
  la Prince, right? Because Prince would play
• 20:05
  everything in his. Couldn't agree with that one.
• 20:08
  Phil Collins. Yeah, I didn't really Phil
• 20:11
  Collins. I didn't know Phil Collins.
• 20:12
  Phil Collins can play like 19 different instruments.
• 20:16
  I don't know if he played all of the instruments on his albums,
• 20:19
  but he played quite a few of. Them No shit.
• 20:21
  OK, I didn't know that. I I knew.
• 20:22
  I knew. I knew Prince.
• 20:27
  I didn't know Wolfgang. That's legit.
• 20:29
  I know Kid Rock. I don't know if he plays
• 20:30
  everything, but I know Kid Rock. He's Cape I love.
• 20:33
  Right, because one of the one of the things I've seen him twice
• 20:36
  and one of the things he does on stage during one of the songs is
• 20:39
  he'll jump from from musician to musician spot on the stage.
• 20:43
  So he's singing and then he'll jump over to the piano guy.
• 20:46
  Don't jump over to the drummer. They'll jump to the bass, jump
• 20:48
  to the guitar. And if there's a horn section or
• 20:51
  shit, he does the whole gamut during one song, which is.
• 20:55
  Do you know the Kid Rock Vanilla Ice story?
• 20:57
  No. So you remember the album Devil
• 21:01
  Without a Cause, right? His breakout album had a middle
• 21:04
  finger in the middle of the CD, right?
• 21:07
  And all the kids went, it's awesome because you know, that's
• 21:10
  what we did back then. That's cool, man.
• 21:11
  That guy's like, fuck the man. Here's the story behind that
• 21:15
  middle finger on that CD. He was signed to Atlantic
• 21:19
  Records. I don't know who he ended up
• 21:21
  signing with back in the day. I think it was Geff.
• 21:22
  And it doesn't matter because it wasn't in Atlantic.
• 21:26
  OK. So he's already got a deal.
• 21:29
  They're ready to start promoting him, recording an album.
• 21:33
  They're 100% behind Kid Rock. Along comes this guy named
• 21:37
  Vanilla Ice Ice Ice and they could only fund one of the
• 21:41
  artists. No kidding.
• 21:43
  And they drop Kid Rock. So I'm almost positive Geffen
• 21:47
  Geffen picked him up, you know, so many years later, right?
• 21:50
  He still had to fight and scrape and claw to get to the top.
• 21:53
  Another 3456 years, whatever it was, because Vanilla Ice broke
• 21:58
  in what, the mid 80s? Late 80s?
• 22:01
  Ladies. Yeah, maybe even the 90s
• 22:03
  because. No, it was 80s for sure because
• 22:07
  OK, Devil Without a Cause probably came out in what, 93
• 22:12
  maybe? OK.
• 22:17
  So Vanilla Ice would have had to been probably late 80s.
• 22:19
  So he had to still fight for another 3 or 4 years to get to
• 22:22
  the top, you know, after he had already been there.
• 22:25
  He's like, I got a record deal, I'm ready to go, and all of a
• 22:28
  sudden they just kicked me to the curb for this guy who's got
• 22:31
  one. Fucking song. 1985 was was when
• 22:34
  Ville Ice first hit the scene. I was right the first time I
• 22:37
  said mid 80s. Kid Rock debut.
• 22:42
  No, I just want to know when Devil Without a Cause came out
• 22:44
  because I don't think anybody cared about him until then.
• 22:47
  About Devil without a cause, where is?
• 22:50
  It that's when the whole world knew who Kid Rock was.
• 22:53
  Yeah, my. Name is Kid.
• 22:58
  He fucking yelled it at you right from the get go.
• 23:04
  Yeah, kid. Rock returned to turn, to turn
• 23:07
  to turn. A fucking bad ass riff.
• 23:10
  Yeah. I couldn't hear that thing loud
• 23:11
  enough on my speakers when I heard it the first time.
• 23:14
  I'm like, this is this is the coolest fucking thing I've ever
• 23:17
  heard. Right, it was dude and the fact
• 23:19
  that he was he mixed, he mixed 1998 devil out of cause.
• 23:24
  So look how long. He had to wait from 1985 to 10.
• 23:28
  Years, dude. No wonder there was a middle
• 23:30
  finger on that fucking album. That's the story behind that.
• 23:35
  That's crazy dude. I heard it from his own mouth on
• 23:38
  one of his documentaries. That's crazy.
• 23:45
  Yeah, I had no I. Don't have a bad taste in your
• 23:47
  mouth. And then now he's still I mean,
• 23:49
  villain Ice is relevant. Villain Ice did OK for for for
• 23:53
  his. He's not Kid Rock, though.
• 23:55
  No, he doesn't have Kid Rock money, that's for sure.
• 23:58
  Kid Rock's got that middle. Finger money, that's for sure,
• 24:02
  right? Yeah, that's absolutely for
• 24:04
  sure. So we were supposed to have a
• 24:09
  guest on the show today. By the way, this is the Chris
• 24:11
  and Mike show. We are on Instagram, Facebook
• 24:13
  and YouTube. Go ahead and give us a follow on
• 24:16
  the Instagram, Facebook, and then you can subscribe on the
• 24:19
  YouTube channel because we drop shorts twice a day and the
• 24:22
  shorts don't coincide with our show.
• 24:24
  There are different shorts from different people that were on
• 24:26
  our show at random times. It's pretty fantastic.
• 24:28
  I'm telling you. It's beautiful people.
• 24:30
  It's beautiful. It's a beautiful thing.
• 24:31
  You're going to absolutely just love.
• 24:33
  Just love. The kids seem to dig them as
• 24:35
  we're just going to say, the kids seem to dig them.
• 24:38
  Yeah, you're just going to love the Christian micro.
• 24:40
  Can I bring that back? You can bring that back.
• 24:42
  Dig them, dig them. I dig it, man.
• 24:45
  I dig it, you know, because I don't know if I.
• 24:47
  Understand this language they speak today.
• 24:50
  This is this is kind of fun. So Walter Coggins.
• 24:55
  Walton Coggins. Right.
• 24:57
  Righteous Gemstones. Baby Bobby.
• 24:58
  Billy. Baby Bobby, Billy.
• 25:00
  Great. Is that what it is?
• 25:01
  Is that what it is? Baby Bobby, Billy.
• 25:02
  Baby Bobby Billy. Yeah.
• 25:04
  Baby Bobby. Baby Bobby.
• 25:05
  So. But he was also Uncle Rico,
• 25:08
  right? But he's also Uncle Rico.
• 25:09
  Like, that's the dynamic of this guy.
• 25:10
  If you didn't know that boys and girls, the guy who plays Baby
• 25:13
  Bobby Billy on Righteous Gemstones was played Uncle Rico
• 25:16
  on Napoleon Dynamite, he was. Also a badass on Justified.
• 25:20
  I can't remember that character name.
• 25:22
  And their yes, he was. Right now, because he was a
• 25:24
  great anyway, he was a great character on Justified.
• 25:28
  He was on White Lotus recently, that was good.
• 25:30
  So anyway, what I'm going with this is he maintains and manages
• 25:34
  his own social media stuff. OK, No shit.
• 25:38
  Right. So when that, when that little
• 25:40
  scene came out or I just, I need $2,000,000 in 8 ball.
• 25:43
  Why can't you just understand that?
• 25:45
  I just need $2,000,000 in 8 ball and then I'm, I'm off.
• 25:48
  I'm off doing my thing. Right.
• 25:51
  So that dropped on something on on Facebook and I typed in below
• 25:56
  it the acronym for if you know, you know, right, right.
• 26:00
  OK. Oh yeah, Couple days later,
• 26:03
  Skyler messaged me. Oh, Dad, Walter Coggins manages
• 26:06
  his own Facebook page. I'm like, that's cool.
• 26:08
  He's like well he liked your post so legit I went and looked.
• 26:11
  That's awesome. And and so he's he liked my post
• 26:15
  and followed me, so I'm following back.
• 26:20
  You got so tight now man. That's awesome.
• 26:24
  The the really cool thing is you're.
• 26:25
  Welcome on anytime, Walter. Right, exactly.
• 26:29
  I actually said that I had. He hasn't responded yet.
• 26:32
  And I've been getting a lot of a lot of friends, a lot of friends
• 26:35
  suggestions on Facebook that have to do with with I think
• 26:38
  it's because Mark Jeffrey, because you know how Facebook
• 26:40
  is. Oh, for sure.
• 26:41
  All the radio, TV stuff in the valley all of a sudden is
• 26:44
  suggesting to be my friend. So a couple of them accepted it
• 26:46
  and I reached out to one Kim. Kim can tell her.
• 26:48
  I was like, hey, you want to be on our show?
• 26:50
  She's like, well, send me some links.
• 26:52
  I was like, OK, here's your links.
• 26:53
  Now let me know. She has a.
• 26:55
  Link away a. Link away.
• 26:58
  So that was kind of cool, you know, so then I, so when I was
• 27:02
  going with that, I went on his page because scholar said he
• 27:04
  manages it. And I watched, I went all the
• 27:05
  way down to the beginning because he hasn't done it for
• 27:07
  very long. It's, it's kind of cool because
• 27:10
  it's like there's stuff where he gets like 10 engagements, which
• 27:14
  is the likes, loves, you know, heart emoji, whatever.
• 27:17
  And then, you know, no shares and 15 comments all the way up
• 27:21
  to when he's doing this Saturday Night Live thing that day he's
• 27:25
  jumping up and down and it's like, you know, 18,000 reactions
• 27:30
  and 87 shares and like 400 comments.
• 27:34
  But the dynamic of it I thought was cool because normally
• 27:39
  somebody that's at that. Similar to ours on scale, right?
• 27:43
  Right. One's got one's got 100,000
• 27:47
  views or 30, whatever it was, and then the next one's got 12.
• 27:53
  Yeah. It's just, it's a, it's a trip.
• 27:55
  How that? How that?
• 27:56
  It's like some of your shorts go down a black hole to never be
• 27:59
  found again. Right.
• 28:02
  And not just I didn't mean yours, I mean just like
• 28:04
  everyone's in general. But it's like.
• 28:06
  The Internet sucks it up and nobody ever sees it again.
• 28:10
  Yeah, those 12 people were lucky.
• 28:12
  Yeah, I came across 1 today 'cause I was.
• 28:14
  I wrote a blog about the HUD, one settlement statement in the
• 28:16
  real estate world and what it's all about, blah, blah, blah,
• 28:19
  because somebody had asked on, on Reddit, which is where I go.
• 28:22
  And, and, and I, I read, I read comments and I like them and
• 28:28
  that kind of thing. And I, and I answer the
• 28:29
  questions and stuff because I'm real estate professional.
• 28:32
  So I'm, you know, putting my stuff out there.
• 28:35
  So it was. It was surprising to me that I
• 28:38
  couldn't find that one video I did in in 2022, but my other one
• 28:42
  I did today wasn't long enough to to put it up as into a blog,
• 28:47
  which was stupid. Did you say you're putting
• 28:50
  yourself out there, Chris Dunham?
• 28:51
  Do we need to have an intervention?
• 28:53
  I put myself out there all the time, Michael.
• 28:55
  I think by the way I want to. Have a guest on the show that
• 28:59
  discussed that subject. Yeah, so.
• 29:02
  It'll be OK. I'm on I'm on the YouTube page
• 29:05
  right now. I got to say our YouTube page.
• 29:07
  If you haven't been there boys and.
• 29:08
  Girls are YouTube page kicks ass.
• 29:10
  Right. It's just at Chris and Mike show
• 29:12
  and it's I'm looking at it because I wanted to I wanted to
• 29:14
  find something. That thing's bad ass.
• 29:17
  I. I think what you should do is
• 29:19
  write down the 1st 56 or whatever it is followers and
• 29:22
  someday we'll send them some nice gifts when we have some
• 29:26
  swag and some merchandise because they have really
• 29:29
  supported our page on a level that's about 10 to 15 to one of
• 29:35
  all the other platforms can buy. And so congratulations ladies
• 29:38
  and gentlemen of the YouTube community, you guys kick ass.
• 29:42
  You do kick ass. And one of one of our past
• 29:44
  guests, Nate, Nate Palmer, the $1,000,000 body, he, he, I sent
• 29:48
  him all his shorts from his show.
• 29:49
  I told him, you know, start sharing these things and he's
• 29:51
  like, you know, they don't share very well on Instagram.
• 29:54
  I'm like, they do, dude. They actually they're perfect
• 29:56
  for Instagram because they're less than a minute.
• 29:59
  Actually, our Instagram reels do, not quite as well as your
• 30:02
  Facebook reels, but they do about 5:00 to 1:00 on Facebook.
• 30:07
  I know numbers, ladies and gentlemen.
• 30:09
  I, yeah, just have an obsession with how things grow.
• 30:13
  Well, and and see, and this is where I'm going with it because,
• 30:16
  OK, there is there, there you go.
• 30:17
  Because YouTube gives you certain things.
• 30:18
  So Bill Belichick praising Eli Manning, that was a 25 second
• 30:22
  short. That's over 11,000 views.
• 30:26
  The Maddox debate, the Maddox rule, the rule, the Greg Maddox
• 30:29
  rule. That's 1400 views.
• 30:30
  But we had that one on Instagram.
• 30:32
  That was what, 60,070 thousand? Right.
• 30:35
  So that's the, that's the dynamic of it.
• 30:37
  It's a trip. Pete Rose was 916.
• 30:41
  We obviously were right on that because in the.
• 30:43
  But here's the deal. Here's what I see.
• 30:46
  You have shorts right now because you release them
• 30:49
  religiously, correct? Some of them.
• 30:52
  Some of them shoot right up to 8. 100, right?
• 30:54
  Yeah. And the next one is 15 and then
• 30:57
  the next one is 900 and it'll be 56, right?
• 31:00
  And then it's 1.5 K and then it's. 2 Yeah, it's weird, man.
• 31:05
  It's the weirdest thing. I love watching it though, it
• 31:07
  cracks me up. It's like.
• 31:09
  Yeah, I'm I'm what is special? About these other ones, I I
• 31:11
  think I don't know but. Yeah, 'cause I'm, I'm going
• 31:14
  through, just scrolling through right now, there's like 400 plus
• 31:17
  is all the popular ones, all the shorts, they're at least have
• 31:19
  400 views. So I don't know if that's if
• 31:22
  that's YouTube's algorithm that you got to have at least 400 for
• 31:25
  it to be popular. But I mean we have, I'm still
• 31:27
  scrolling. I mean, that's how many sorts we
• 31:30
  have that are still. Well, I think it's a combination
• 31:32
  of a lot of things. You've gotten better at your
• 31:35
  advertising of it, even at the grassroots level, right, Your
• 31:39
  better displays, you have more interesting content on a regular
• 31:44
  basis, a lot of things come into play.
• 31:46
  You have better hashtags, whatever, you know.
• 31:49
  Yeah. And right now there's a bunch of
• 31:51
  young kids screaming at me going if you would do just this, you
• 31:54
  would have 10 million. And I'm like, yeah, so send us
• 31:58
  an e-mail. Yeah, as I see those things,
• 32:01
  we're, we're on, we're on some podcast platforms on, on social
• 32:04
  media and I see, oh, I just got my thing up to, you know, 60,000
• 32:08
  subscribers in a year. And my comment always says, did
• 32:10
  you pay for that or was it organic?
• 32:12
  And guess what? They never answered the question
• 32:14
  because and they never answered the question.
• 32:16
  That means they paid for it. You know that as well as I do.
• 32:19
  Oh, that's. Stupid, we've been around the
• 32:20
  block when it comes to entertainment and being an
• 32:22
  artist and how shit works. The game may change but or the
• 32:27
  way the game is played may change but the game is still the
• 32:30
  same right? It is.
• 32:31
  It's all about networking and you and I, I think, are doing it
• 32:35
  the right way and that we're meeting new and interesting
• 32:38
  people all the time that are providing a message of some kind
• 32:43
  of interesting. It doesn't always have to be
• 32:46
  positive. I don't want to say positive
• 32:48
  because the world is not always positive, but for the most part,
• 32:52
  we've done a good job of bringing some pretty uplifting
• 32:54
  messages to the world and that makes me happy, right?
• 32:58
  I think people like those stories of Alicia's story blew
• 33:02
  me away, man. You know that some of these just
• 33:04
  keep getting better and better. It's like you can't believe
• 33:07
  there's people out there doing that kind of work because the
• 33:12
  media would have you believe that everything's falling apart
• 33:14
  every day while this person's going out putting it back
• 33:17
  together, right? And and that's the fucking
• 33:20
  media, man. I just, I just don't.
• 33:22
  I just can't. I'm so tired.
• 33:23
  It's fucking exhausting if you try and make sense of it because
• 33:28
  there is no sense to be made of it.
• 33:29
  It's all propaganda. You know that as well as I do.
• 33:32
  One, they just and they just lie.
• 33:33
  They just, they just lie. Propaganda.
• 33:35
  Everything, it's just it's like, like, yeah, like.
• 33:39
  Here's an interesting thing because I number one, I don't
• 33:43
  want you to get angry and #2 I think this is interesting.
• 33:49
  I was scrolling through my fucking rabbit hole that I go
• 33:53
  down on Facebook or Instagram or one of them, right?
• 33:56
  And I fucking hate that because sometimes I lose an hour,
• 33:58
  sometimes two of my life and that's unacceptable.
• 34:01
  But this person had an interesting theory that we've
• 34:05
  discussed on this podcast before of the Mandela Effect, Yes.
• 34:09
  And this guy said, what if it's so sinister that it's not really
• 34:13
  magic? What if they are purposely
• 34:16
  changing the timeline ever so slightly maliciously to see how
• 34:21
  far they can go before people will break, right?
• 34:26
  How how much can we change certain things?
• 34:30
  It broke my brain for a minute. I sat.
• 34:32
  And you know when somebody makes me stop and think because most
• 34:35
  of the time I'm like, yeah, you're full of shit and here's
• 34:37
  why. Because I've studied a lot of
• 34:41
  things and I don't claim to be the smartest person in the
• 34:43
  world, but there's a lot of things people tell you you're
• 34:45
  like, that's bullshit and here's why.
• 34:48
  And if you don't believe it, that's fine.
• 34:50
  So kind of like the Truman Show. Remember the Truman Show, where
• 34:52
  they're. Manipulating the character,
• 34:54
  we're being gasoline. Yeah, well, we've talked about
• 34:57
  that before to where are that we're, you know, are we actually
• 35:00
  living in what's known as the matrix like did the matrix is
• 35:04
  that is that? I mean, I don't think that's
• 35:06
  legit like that, but I think that I wouldn't.
• 35:08
  That's a possibility, like a simulation.
• 35:10
  Yeah, yeah, a simulation, yeah, yeah, which would be weird you.
• 35:14
  Know world landed long ago. We're just like the Matrix or
• 35:17
  floating in suspended animation to be used as batteries.
• 35:21
  So, so this, I like that. That's that's, yeah, that's.
• 35:28
  How do we know that's not? True.
• 35:30
  That's heavy, man, That's heavy. When virtual reality takes over,
• 35:33
  how do you know that's not true? And that's common.
• 35:36
  Oh, it's dude. It's it's so it's.
• 35:38
  You're already being trained by carrying your fucking
• 35:41
  smartphone, you just don't know it.
• 35:42
  Right, did you see the video like we went in the QT, Nick and
• 35:46
  I drove to Tucson 'cause I got the listing popping up.
• 35:48
  And I liked it. Your mom commented on it.
• 35:49
  Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's right.
• 35:51
  So boys and girls that are in the listening viewing audience,
• 35:53
  if you're not familiar with what I'm talking about, my wife and I
• 35:55
  went down to Tucson 'cause I have a listing coming up to the
• 35:58
  wholesale deal. And there was, we went to a QT
• 36:02
  because, you know, it's an hour and a half from our house.
• 36:04
  We had to pee. And that one, I didn't know if
• 36:05
  the house is going to have utilities out or not.
• 36:07
  So I'm like, we need to go here, stop here.
• 36:08
  Just, you know, get out, stretch legs, you know, go to the
• 36:11
  bathroom. Sure.
• 36:13
  We walk in the door and there's this robot.
• 36:16
  Remember, for those of you that ever watched The Jetsons, OK,
• 36:19
  it's a small version of Rosie the robot, probably 3 feet tall,
• 36:25
  and it had eyes, and the eyes could see me walking in the door
• 36:28
  because it stopped. It talked, it told me thank you
• 36:32
  for coming to QT, please come again.
• 36:34
  And then later, hello, I'm a robot, please don't mind me as I
• 36:39
  clean the floor and thank you for shopping at QT.
• 36:41
  So let me ask you this real. Quick, yes.
• 36:44
  In 2025, when I can sit here with the most badass computer
• 36:49
  that Mac could make in 2023 to make a more badass one in 2025.
• 36:53
  But I have the best thing that Mac made in 2023.
• 36:56
  It can make voices out of anything.
• 36:59
  Why does it still have to be the robot voice?
• 37:02
  And thank you for coming to Cutie.
• 37:04
  And I, I, I think it needs to have the cute element to it for
• 37:08
  the little kids that walk in the store.
• 37:10
  To catch their attention, keep them from getting run over or
• 37:14
  whatever. Yeah, OK, I can accept.
• 37:16
  That 'cause it did it, it did it legit stopped.
• 37:18
  Like grabbed your attention. It stopped and then it and then
• 37:21
  it turned around, 'cause I stood in sway.
• 37:24
  We have them cleaning our floors at work so.
• 37:26
  Yeah. I mean, it's, yeah, it's, it's,
• 37:29
  it's coming. It's coming.
• 37:31
  Well, I told you I read that article, that in 2026 or 2028
• 37:36
  they're going to have a fully automated assembly line of
• 37:39
  humanoid robots in South Carolina building cars.
• 37:43
  Did I tell you that? I don't.
• 37:46
  I don't think you did. And that's scary from the
• 37:48
  standpoint. Of that's a true story.
• 37:51
  I believe you, but it's scary from the standpoint that you,
• 37:56
  some of those things, you just, you just you got to have the
• 37:58
  human element to it. I think you know some of the,
• 38:02
  some of the nuances. I I do I think so in building a
• 38:05
  car. I think you're right.
• 38:07
  I I think there needs to be something.
• 38:09
  Huh, I actually know you're right on a lot of levels.
• 38:12
  Yeah, I just, that's what I'm saying.
• 38:14
  I just think you have to have. I'll tell you on the off the air
• 38:16
  why, OK. Well, one of the reasons why I
• 38:19
  think why is because if if like a human, OK, so like a trained
• 38:26
  human, like somebody who who built cars back in the day,
• 38:28
  right? When when Detroit started
• 38:30
  booming, right. They could look at the car, they
• 38:32
  could look at the body. They they could see
• 38:34
  imperfections after doing their job long enough, they could say,
• 38:36
  oh, this is this is jacked. This won't fit.
• 38:38
  This is off. This is off.
• 38:40
  This isn't whatever, right? Do you have that human element
• 38:43
  to it? Machines are great.
• 38:44
  Yeah, because the air and and the flaws should drop.
• 38:49
  But here's what I'll say about the manufacturing process in
• 38:52
  today's America, which I'm pretty familiar with, right?
• 38:56
  Yeah. You are.
• 38:58
  They're great as assistants to help a meaningless task.
• 39:05
  Yes, that would cause repetitive motion injuries and but there
• 39:11
  still needs to be eyes on the prize, so to speak, as the
• 39:15
  project moves along. And that doesn't just go with
• 39:17
  building cars. They still can't recreate
• 39:20
  Beethoven, right? Because AI can't.
• 39:24
  AI has no imagination. That's the one thing.
• 39:27
  Once it has imagination, we're fucked.
• 39:30
  Right. Because then it can think for
• 39:32
  itself. That's the that's the
• 39:34
  distinctive factor between mankind and the animal Kingdom
• 39:39
  or electronics, right? We have free will and we have an
• 39:43
  imagination. An imagination made this
• 39:46
  microphone, made this computer, made all this possible, right?
• 39:49
  I'm too stupid to do any of this.
• 39:51
  So I've luckily somebody had a different imagination.
• 39:55
  I can do the podcast, I can make it work.
• 39:57
  You can make it work. But we couldn't build the
• 39:59
  microphone, the computer, the mouse, the interface that we
• 40:02
  use. You know, people don't think
• 40:05
  about that shit. That all came from a human
• 40:07
  brain. It didn't come from a
• 40:09
  rhinoceros. It didn't come from a giraffe.
• 40:11
  No. And it didn't come from a
• 40:13
  computer yet. That's the scary part, because
• 40:16
  the keyword is. Yet I've seen a lot of say I
• 40:19
  shit, I've played with the Oculus Rift and all that kind of
• 40:21
  stuff. What's the Oculus that explain?
• 40:23
  I don't know what that is. So the Oculus is a virtual
• 40:27
  reality headset. OK.
• 40:29
  Where you can play games in a virtual reality space, so you're
• 40:33
  in your own living room, but when you put that on, you have
• 40:35
  to be very aware of your surroundings because you are now
• 40:38
  in a three-dimensional environment that is no longer
• 40:41
  your living room. It's a lot like tripping on
• 40:42
  acid. Gotcha.
• 40:44
  You know the world in front of you disappears and another world
• 40:48
  appears that is either in your mind or it's really there.
• 40:52
  You just don't see it all the time, right?
• 40:54
  Virtual reality is a lot like that, and it's fucking weird
• 40:57
  until you get used to it. If you have any kind of motion
• 41:02
  sensitivity, I don't recommend it at all.
• 41:05
  OK, freak you the fuck out. But if you don't, it's man, it's
• 41:11
  cool. There was a game called Beat
• 41:12
  Saber on there where you just basically had a lightsaber and
• 41:15
  you played your favorite songs and these objects came at you
• 41:19
  and you're hitting them with lightsabers.
• 41:20
  And that's how you scored your points, right?
• 41:22
  And you could play that against Carrie and I planted together.
• 41:25
  That's where I, she had one of those.
• 41:27
  It was awesome. So that's the world we're coming
• 41:31
  to. There's going to be a point
• 41:33
  where I feel like you're going to be able to choose between
• 41:36
  that world and whatever's left of this world, right?
• 41:39
  If we don't shape things up, this world could come in.
• 41:43
  We could either be whatever, nuclear winter, no resources.
• 41:52
  What if there's a company that comes along that says, hey, if
• 41:54
  you just want to slip into this world, we'll pay you X amount of
• 41:59
  dollars to be a participant, right?
• 42:02
  And now there's a million, 2 million people living in virtual
• 42:06
  reality, and that's their new environment.
• 42:09
  That would be a trip, man. And then you just, you're just
• 42:11
  sitting there in a, in a. You're in suspense animation,
• 42:14
  basically. Yeah, like the Matrix when he
• 42:17
  wakes up. In the but now you can be
• 42:19
  married. Called.
• 42:20
  Cindy Crawford, you know, and then her when a woman of your
• 42:24
  dreams or. Well, it's that I I I can't
• 42:26
  imagine being married to anybody else but Nikki, as cheesy as
• 42:29
  that sounds, even. No, in your position, I'm in a
• 42:32
  different position. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:33
  This is true. You can have Cindy Crawford.
• 42:35
  I'll, I'll still, I'll still have Nikki 'cause you know, oh.
• 42:37
  It's going to be Jennifer Aniston for me.
• 42:39
  Aged. I think she got better with age.
• 42:42
  Well, you know, plastic surgery and and and nipa.
• 42:45
  Tucks, hers is really good. It is, well, because she's
• 42:48
  smart, man. She didn't do it stupidly, you
• 42:50
  know, and I think some of it probably is from good living,
• 42:53
  like a lot of how people age. It's it, it ties directly with
• 42:57
  their life and their lifestyle and their stress levels And, and
• 43:01
  you know, like I have one of the world's most stressful jobs.
• 43:05
  You have one of the highest suicide rates.
• 43:06
  Too. I do.
• 43:07
  Oh yeah. My fucking job is just, you
• 43:09
  know. A lot of people don't know that
• 43:12
  that that came as a shock to me. I think you're the one that told
• 43:15
  me that. Yeah, yeah, I, I've legit, I
• 43:17
  told you before, it's worth repeating.
• 43:19
  I sold a house. I sold three houses to a family.
• 43:23
  The father-in-law was so emotionally attached to their,
• 43:26
  their their house. He raised the kids and, you
• 43:28
  know, forever and ever, rightfully so.
• 43:30
  So that was a struggle. And then they bought a new one
• 43:33
  right across the street from from the people that that the
• 43:38
  kids of, of the father-in-law, right.
• 43:40
  I grew up with them. But when all is said and done,
• 43:43
  representing all three of them, he had Tony had pulled me aside
• 43:46
  one day. And he's like, you know, I, you
• 43:49
  know, I thought my job was stressful.
• 43:50
  And just so you understand, boys and girls, this was a former
• 43:55
  hostage negotiator with the Maricopa County deputies.
• 43:58
  Holy craps, right? And has spent, even though he's
• 44:02
  retired now, he's spent probably the last 15 years doing cold
• 44:06
  case remains. And what I mean by that, he
• 44:11
  feels that every, every box of bones deserves to have a name
• 44:15
  attached to it. So that's his, that's his gig.
• 44:19
  And that's what he does after retired.
• 44:21
  He still fights to find those names of those of those remains.
• 44:25
  But yeah, he said that he would not wish my job on anyone.
• 44:29
  I agree straight up. And he straight up was a hostage
• 44:33
  negotiator for decades. And here's.
• 44:34
  Why? That's fascinating.
• 44:37
  It is way way more fast like. Like I wish I could get him to
• 44:40
  put that in writing because I need it in writing.
• 44:42
  It's way more fascinating than what my opinion would be worth
• 44:45
  because that guy was under way more stress than I've ever been
• 44:49
  in other than trying to stay alive at one point.
• 44:51
  So I guess I can relate at some level.
• 44:54
  But it's, you know, all the things that you say that you've
• 44:59
  learned along the way as we've done this podcast.
• 45:01
  And one thing I've learned from you is I would not want to do
• 45:04
  your job just for the simple fact I'm a pretty good self
• 45:09
  starter and self motivator. But I don't know if I could
• 45:13
  continue it at that level doing that job.
• 45:18
  You know what I'm? Saying it's, it's, yeah, I do.
• 45:19
  It's it's very, it's very. You have to have a passion for
• 45:24
  it for sure, what you do. Yeah, you do.
• 45:27
  And and the other thing too with it, it's a fucking microphone.
• 45:29
  I can't get this day wearing today.
• 45:31
  The other thing too with it as well is that I'm documenting my
• 45:35
  day-to-day that you wake up every day, and I've said this
• 45:42
  before, unemployed and what I do today affects me 45 days from
• 45:46
  now. And so when you're constantly
• 45:50
  grinding, trying to, to drum up business and, and I've, I've
• 45:54
  drummed up plenty of business the last couple months, but they
• 45:56
  all hit the wall for some reason, right?
• 45:59
  This buyer couldn't do because that this one's on hold because
• 46:02
  this this one can't go because of this, that one needs to do
• 46:05
  that. So it's, you know, it's one of
• 46:08
  those weird conundrums where I've had enough flowing of
• 46:12
  potential deals, but they all just stopped on a dime because,
• 46:16
  you know, this didn't work or that didn't work or they got to
• 46:18
  save more money and they got to pay this that off or they didn't
• 46:21
  realize by doing this, by the way, when you want to
• 46:24
  consolidate your credit cards, you think you're doing it right
• 46:26
  by doing a credit consolidation loan, you just essentially file
• 46:30
  bankruptcy. So don't do that.
• 46:34
  You know what I'm talking about credit consolidation.
• 46:36
  You see those ads and stuff, boys and girls online, you can
• 46:39
  consolidate your credit cards. You know, if you have over
• 46:40
  $20,000 credit card debt, we'll no, because it is it's it's you
• 46:46
  just you just filed bankruptcy. It's the same approach because.
• 46:50
  The one thing that you and I have in common when it comes to
• 46:53
  credit is I have been on both sides of the fence where I
• 46:57
  knowingly and willingly ruined my credit and knew how to
• 47:02
  manipulate the system to get what I needed and what I wanted
• 47:05
  on a level that's probably unprecedented other than like
• 47:08
  fucking New York Stock Exchange white collar crime.
• 47:12
  You know, I knew what I was doing for sure.
• 47:15
  I ran up a lot of credit cards and never paid them off because
• 47:18
  they will not put you in jail. No, they won't.
• 47:21
  But they will ruin your fucking life forever when it comes to
• 47:24
  you can't buy a car and you can't buy a house.
• 47:27
  And Chris worked miracles helping me understand what
• 47:31
  credit meant the first time I bought a house.
• 47:33
  So, you know, I think you put it testimonial for me, which you
• 47:38
  can do anytime on the Internet the other day that said I will
• 47:41
  testify what he will go to as a, you know, the lengths he will go
• 47:45
  to as a realtor. There were No2 less opportune
• 47:50
  clients than Carrie and I at the time because she basically had
• 47:54
  no credit and mine was in the toilet.
• 47:56
  So I learned a lot from you just getting started there.
• 48:00
  And then, you know, my life fell apart after that.
• 48:04
  My credit rating fell apart after that.
• 48:06
  So I had to rebuild from not applicable when I moved back
• 48:10
  here in 2009 to I'm sitting here talking to you.
• 48:12
  I just got it from Discover Card the other day.
• 48:14
  It's 825. So wow, I figured shit out.
• 48:19
  Holy smokes man, I know what I'm doing when it comes to repairing
• 48:23
  your credit so. That's better than mine.
• 48:27
  Well, it's better than a lot of people's just for the simple
• 48:29
  fact you're carrying more debt than I am, like revolving debt
• 48:33
  and blah, blah, blah. You know, your situation is
• 48:35
  different than mine. But sure, I have a better credit
• 48:38
  score than the guy that taught me how to get there, which is
• 48:40
  Clark Howard. His is like 770-5780 averages
• 48:46
  all the time because he carries a lot of debt.
• 48:48
  You know, he's a landlord and blah, blah, blah, whatever.
• 48:51
  But yeah, I figured shit out. So when you tell people that, I
• 48:55
  want them to know his message is 100% true.
• 49:00
  You have to do all the things that he lists and the podcast
• 49:04
  that he's releasing right now on his YouTube page, right?
• 49:09
  I learned that. I learned that from this.
• 49:11
  I was like, hey, why you don't want to do a little side project
• 49:14
  and and that I think that. They're valuable, man.
• 49:17
  Thank you and I haven't looked at my numbers on it.
• 49:19
  I just when I went in to upload a couple today I was like holy
• 49:22
  smokes I got 100 more followers in a week.
• 49:24
  Well, I'll drop that shit on our page too.
• 49:26
  You know it's legit if you not, even if you're looking for a
• 49:29
  house in Arizona. I mean, that kind of stuff is
• 49:31
  valuable to people. I didn't know until I knew.
• 49:35
  One of my favorite sayings in life is you don't know what you
• 49:38
  know. You don't know what you don't
• 49:39
  know till you know it, right? I almost forgot my own saying.
• 49:42
  You people say this is a stupid question.
• 49:44
  I'm like there are no. There's never no thank you.
• 49:46
  I have this. Only stupid question is the one
• 49:48
  you don't ask. So you don't know what you don't
• 49:51
  know till you know it. That's one of my favorite
• 49:53
  sayings. And if you know it, then you
• 49:55
  know it, and you always know it. Then you can share that
• 49:56
  knowledge with somebody else who doesn't know it.
• 49:58
  Then you just took something they didn't know and made them
• 50:00
  know it. Because you know it.
• 50:00
  Because you knew it from the time you knew it, and learned it
• 50:02
  from knowing it. Now tell me what you said
• 50:05
  before. Listen to your sin every time.
• 50:07
  I was trying to think of it the other night.
• 50:08
  OK, tomorrow doesn't understand, yesterday will never be again,
• 50:13
  so take a moment and listen to your sin.
• 50:16
  I fucking love that. I was dead and I couldn't think
• 50:19
  of it. I was sitting there and I'm
• 50:20
  racking my brain. I I had part of it, but I I
• 50:23
  could. So, so that right there is 100%
• 50:27
  I should turn this. That's 100% Jeff Tate influence
• 50:31
  because Jeff Tate to me. Jeff Tate is the lead singer of
• 50:35
  a band called Queens Reich Ladies and Gentlemen If.
• 50:37
  You don't know. So I was always I I loved the
• 50:41
  Queens Reich. I loved scorpions, right?
• 50:43
  You know, we've kind of right. So back when Nemesis was, was
• 50:48
  was just beginning, you know, when I joined this desperate
• 50:50
  Angel, my, my big things I was watching at the time was Ozzy
• 50:53
  Osbourne's Live and Loud because he was going on his final tour.
• 50:57
  And tours tour. My cousin got me into it.
• 51:00
  Right and Queens Reich was was breaking under the scene at a
• 51:03
  grander scale than Operation Mind Crime.
• 51:05
  They released building empire they built, they released
• 51:07
  empires or empire which was a whole more commercially
• 51:12
  successful not. Yes.
• 51:14
  For sure not. Not really a whole concept album
• 51:18
  like Operation was. Even though it was, it didn't
• 51:20
  have. Just not to the level.
• 51:22
  Yes, right, but so the live when they went on tour for for
• 51:29
  building empires tour they call it, they would do an hour of
• 51:31
  operation mind crime and then they would play the empire album
• 51:34
  in its entirety. That's.
• 51:36
  Awesome. Right, so then.
• 51:37
  So you got to see part of the tour.
• 51:39
  I did. And then because I didn't see
• 51:42
  the Building Empires tour, I saw the Operation Mind Crime tour.
• 51:47
  I ended up seeing that a couple more times on the anniversary
• 51:50
  dates they did at the celebrity theater here in Phoenix.
• 51:52
  They did. They did the Operation Line
• 51:54
  crime in its entirety. At the time I took my brother, I
• 51:58
  was done drinking. He was still a slosh.
• 52:01
  We were legit as close as I am to my screen to Jeff Tate the
• 52:05
  whole show because there he was and my brother wouldn't leave
• 52:07
  him alone. So Jeff Tate literally ended up
• 52:09
  moving over by Eddie for the bulk of the show and stayed on
• 52:12
  that side of the catwalk because had a catwalk runway that would
• 52:16
  go. Back I saw Ted Nugent.
• 52:17
  There was Scott. Right on.
• 52:19
  So Tate would run off the stage and then come back and.
• 52:22
  Yeah, Yeah. So I mean, here he was.
• 52:24
  And then he just wouldn't leave him alone.
• 52:27
  Just. And my brother's like, you know,
• 52:30
  6-2, you know, I want to say 200 lbs, but he's.
• 52:35
  It's muscle. It's built 200 lbs.
• 52:37
  And when he's drunk, it's. And you have somebody down in
• 52:40
  the front row. Yeah.
• 52:46
  You know, every time Jeff Tate came by and I started watching
• 52:49
  Def Tate's eyes, like. You know what that's like when
• 52:52
  somebody's a little fucking crazy 2 feet from you?
• 52:55
  It's like, bye, Jeff, see you, see you over there.
• 52:57
  OK, so that was kind of a drag. But yeah, so anyway, when I was
• 53:02
  going with that story, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.
• 53:05
  And when they film, when they recorded, when they recorded the
• 53:07
  mind crime, the live part of it, they wrapped up a song in an
• 53:13
  Operation Mind Crime set list. And as his music was winding
• 53:17
  down, he's like, I got a question here.
• 53:20
  I want to know, is there anybody here tonight in Madison, WI that
• 53:24
  believes in love? And then and then Degarmo and
• 53:31
  he's like, I don't and turns around.
• 53:33
  I'm like, fuck, like I got chills as a kid watching that
• 53:36
  was a kid. But like, you know, like as I
• 53:39
  said it. I can still.
• 53:41
  I can still see it. So I still got a little bit of
• 53:43
  the chills because because that's just, that was just, that
• 53:46
  was fucking cool, man. And so, so those are the little
• 53:50
  things, the little nuances that I would pick up.
• 53:52
  So imagine this. Yeah, I'm 16 years old.
• 53:56
  I see them for the first time do their entire Operation Minecraft
• 54:01
  album before Metallica plays their And Justice for All set
• 54:04
  list. And I was in the front row for
• 54:07
  the And Justice for All set list because that was back in the
• 54:10
  days when they still had general admission.
• 54:13
  People hadn't gotten smart yet. Metallica concerts can get a
• 54:17
  little rowdy if he didn't know. So as soon as Queens Reich was
• 54:21
  done and the lights went down and they started playing that
• 54:24
  opening little, I think it's a French horn on blackened chairs
• 54:32
  started flying. And my buddy looked at oh fuck
• 54:35
  yeah. It got open quick, dude.
• 54:37
  People were trying to get to the front, so we saw a path and if
• 54:42
  we hadn't gone at that second, he's like, we got to go now.
• 54:45
  We ended up right up against the gate.
• 54:47
  James was sweating on us, just like Jeff should have been for
• 54:50
  you if you hadn't been in an unfortunate position.
• 54:52
  He. He he was for a while.
• 54:54
  You know, do you know how much that changed my fucking life?
• 54:57
  To be like this was before they put you 16 feet from the band?
• 55:02
  This guy was sweating on us. He was literally 5 feet from us.
• 55:06
  That changed my life, man. I was like, I want to do that.
• 55:09
  You know what? That's a job.
• 55:11
  Yeah, this guy's making a living.
• 55:16
  Yeah, yeah. Fucking.
• 55:19
  Incredible, man. That would be cool.
• 55:20
  That would be cool. And that's the thing that people
• 55:22
  don't understand now. And that's, I'm glad you pointed
• 55:24
  out because really, there's a barrier now.
• 55:26
  And it's because idiots would jump on stage.
• 55:29
  That's why you don't have nice things, because people don't
• 55:30
  respect the fact that that, yeah, yes, James Hetfield's a
• 55:34
  rock God. He's an icon.
• 55:35
  He's he's he's, you know, changed the evolution of heavy
• 55:38
  metal and then some. But he's still a freaking human
• 55:42
  being. He can still be freaked out.
• 55:44
  He can still be spooked if if you're jumping on stage and or
• 55:49
  screaming top your lungs, just like Jeff Tate was with my
• 55:51
  breast. In peace.
• 55:52
  Poor fucking Darrell got shot while he was doing what he
• 55:54
  loved, right? Entertaining his fans?
• 55:56
  Yeah, jumping on stage and fucking murdered him.
• 55:59
  From prime example, absolutely prime example.
• 56:01
  That's why there's barriers, that's why there's one.
• 56:03
  Of the most peaceful human beings in the earth that played
• 56:05
  some of the heaviest music on the planet, right.
• 56:08
  Nobody ever said a bad thing about Darrell.
• 56:10
  They were like holy shit what a amazing human being.
• 56:13
  Went and did guitar clinics for kids and just wanted a jam, man.
• 56:17
  One of your famous quotes that I always tell people that I always
• 56:21
  loved about you is you would say all the time.
• 56:24
  I don't know, dude. It's just like if we'd start to
• 56:26
  even get close to being in an argument, like I just want to
• 56:29
  jam, man. Let's just fucking jam, dude.
• 56:31
  Come on, let's let's go crank it up.
• 56:33
  Let's get loud. Yeah, because everything's
• 56:35
  better when you jam, man. Absolutely.
• 56:38
  Everything that's better, you get, you get all the emotion
• 56:40
  out, you get whatever's in your head out, you just, you just
• 56:42
  lose yourself in the music. You kind of transcend into the
• 56:45
  moment of whatever you're doing because you got to be focused.
• 56:48
  You got. To but it brought us all back
• 56:49
  into a circle, right? Everybody always got to chuckle
• 56:52
  out of that. You just be like, I don't know
• 56:53
  man, whatever dude. Let's let's just jam.
• 56:55
  Let's look at jam. Let's jam.
• 56:56
  We can worry about that later. Let's play something we know
• 56:58
  right now, right? Just jam.
• 57:00
  And then, and then you all just, you all just knew and shut up on
• 57:02
  our fucking play then. Fuck you, Chris.
• 57:06
  Because you can't argue with logic.
• 57:08
  We, we were all there to do that.
• 57:09
  It's like, fuck, he's right, you know?
• 57:14
  And then five songs later, nobody's mad.
• 57:17
  No, because you forgot why you're mad.
• 57:18
  Because it was that stupid and petty.
• 57:20
  And it wasn't stupid and petty, but it just, it was relevant at
• 57:23
  the time and it was always something music related, right?
• 57:26
  It was, you know, lyrically or you know, bridge here, bridge
• 57:30
  there, fill this gap, put the fill in here.
• 57:31
  I don't want to make it sound like that.
• 57:33
  And you know, Scott used to out ride me because I would say I
• 57:35
  would say phrases too many times.
• 57:36
  I remember that one song. I don't know why.
• 57:38
  He's like, dude, you say I don't know why too many times, but it
• 57:42
  calls for it. Scott.
• 57:43
  It doesn't. Carrie, Carrie, what do you
• 57:46
  think? Leave me out of it.
• 57:48
  She was a good producer. Like, leave me out of it, you
• 57:52
  know? And then it's every time, dude,
• 57:53
  she's like, dude, you do sing that way too many times.
• 57:55
  I'm like, but it calls for it. I'm filling the space.
• 57:59
  Trust me, on stage, you'll see it because it's an energy thing.
• 58:02
  I'm building it up. That was a song about how I went
• 58:05
  and pissed off Rodger Klein. I love that song.
• 58:08
  Which is now the Peacemakers. But that's the whole.
• 58:12
  That's what that song was about. Because.
• 58:14
  I was actually proud of that moment because that was so
• 58:16
  different for us. That song was not like anything
• 58:19
  else we ever wrote. It was like it was very.
• 58:23
  Remember, the beat was very on. The only best way I can describe
• 58:27
  it is Scott was like not on top of the beat.
• 58:30
  He was almost like over the top of the beat.
• 58:33
  It was very driving in a way that.
• 58:35
  It was. It was, yeah.
• 58:37
  You know what I'm saying? But it was because the way the
• 58:39
  melody and the way I sang it, I, we built it up because legit I
• 58:42
  was, it was AI told a story. So much fun to play.
• 58:46
  Yeah. It just was, yeah.
• 58:48
  It was a journey. It was a journey melodically and
• 58:50
  vocally. And then the way you guys built
• 58:51
  the music around it, it just kind of just it build up, build
• 58:54
  up and then it was. Kind of.
• 58:55
  Then it dropped down to nothing. Yes, remember.
• 58:57
  Yes, because that's and it would.
• 58:59
  Build itself back up from there because I fucking like that
• 59:03
  song, dude. I love playing it live.
• 59:05
  I think we only got to play it live a handful of times.
• 59:09
  Yeah, that was a good song though.
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  Mike and I both just think that's wrong.
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  Like we were in the music industry where you built
• 1:00:16
  everything by word of mouth. We had to beat the streets and
• 1:00:20
  Flyer and go to ASU and hand it out to beautiful women.
• 1:00:24
  It was horrible. I'd hate it every second of it.
• 1:00:27
  It was. Grueling.
• 1:00:28
  Terrible. In Arizona heat, I handed out
• 1:00:32
  those Flyers to every beautiful woman woman I saw.
• 1:00:35
  That's. Why you're so skinny.
• 1:00:37
  Let's say you didn't. You didn't.
• 1:00:38
  You lost all the weight because you're walking around when
• 1:00:40
  there's 100° outside when you're long haired and you know the
• 1:00:43
  rock'n'roll. That was one of the best ideas
• 1:00:45
  we ever had, though. I'm like, why are we going to
• 1:00:47
  all these places? Let's just go where the chicks
• 1:00:50
  are, right? Yep, and there you go.
• 1:00:55
  We should have what we should have did.
• 1:00:56
  We should have went to strip clubs because some of our A.
• 1:00:58
  Couple I did a lot of that, but I don't think I flyered there.
• 1:01:02
  A couple of our songs would have definitely worked very well for
• 1:01:06
  the stripping, stripping world. Oh no.
• 1:01:09
  Question. I'm not going to lie.
• 1:01:13
  So, you know, there's that for sure.
• 1:01:16
  So you sent me something and I liked it.
• 1:01:19
  I knew you would. So I'm going to.
• 1:01:22
  I got another one too, but I thought you ought to read that
• 1:01:25
  one because I got a funny one after that.
• 1:01:28
  So here a funny thought. So here are the uncomfortable
• 1:01:31
  truths that that everybody needs to hear.
• 1:01:33
  OK, and this is a trip because this really is eye opening.
• 1:01:37
  Made me think. The average lifespan is 76 years
• 1:01:41
  in Is it? Is this just America because I
• 1:01:43
  know in in in like overseas Asian?
• 1:01:45
  Country, I think that's average overall, like worldwide.
• 1:01:49
  So, so Norm George went, lived two years past the average
• 1:01:53
  lifespan. Not bad for somebody who was as
• 1:01:55
  large as he was And agree and, and, and we don't know if he's
• 1:01:59
  healthy or not, but from a, from a visual standpoint, very
• 1:02:01
  unhealthy human. But you know, to each his own.
• 1:02:05
  Middle age is not 50, it's 38. So when you're having a midlife
• 1:02:07
  crisis, boys and girls, you're 38, not 50.
• 1:02:10
  That's about where I was. Yeah, not 50.
• 1:02:13
  The days are long, but the years are shorter than you think.
• 1:02:18
  Isn't that true? We just talked about his time
• 1:02:20
  going faster. Yeah, I don't know if it's
• 1:02:22
  necessarily going faster, but like, OK, so here's here's a
• 1:02:26
  good way to explain this. So little man 5 1/2, right?
• 1:02:32
  Like just yesterday he was 1. So that's a trip, right?
• 1:02:35
  And and he does these little things every now and then.
• 1:02:37
  We're all. I know where you're going with
• 1:02:38
  this, yeah. Yeah, so.
• 1:02:40
  But pull up. OK, OK.
• 1:02:42
  How do you explain me? Because I blinked in 10 years
• 1:02:46
  went by, right? I don't have AI, don't have kids
• 1:02:49
  to compare it to if they're not married.
• 1:02:51
  So and then they find out that the universe is expanding faster
• 1:02:55
  than they had anticipated. I'm like, does that mean time's
• 1:02:57
  going faster? We don't know if time is really
• 1:02:59
  linear, right? We don't.
• 1:03:01
  We don't. We don't.
• 1:03:02
  And I and I, yeah, it feels like it's going faster from from a
• 1:03:06
  calendar standpoint. Nothing's changed.
• 1:03:08
  Like we haven't changed our calendar at all.
• 1:03:10
  Right. I can guarantee you if Carrie's
• 1:03:13
  listening to this, she's screaming because one of my
• 1:03:15
  running and jokes the whole time she's known me is days, 24
• 1:03:19
  hours. It goes the same all the time,
• 1:03:21
  right? Like some people say, Dave
• 1:03:23
  dragging on man. It's just.
• 1:03:25
  Really, really going slow. It's like, no, it's going the
• 1:03:28
  same speed. It goes every day.
• 1:03:29
  So I know where you're coming from because I've argued that
• 1:03:32
  for years. But Jesus, man, to me it just
• 1:03:36
  feels like maybe we have way we're being inundated with
• 1:03:40
  information we didn't have before, right?
• 1:03:42
  It's possible. Used to end your day, you ate a
• 1:03:45
  baked potato and a hamburger and some French fries or whatever,
• 1:03:49
  right? And then you watch the Evening
• 1:03:51
  News and then you talk to your wife or your kids and then you
• 1:03:53
  went to bed. Now you have emails and social
• 1:03:57
  media and computers and podcasts and you know.
• 1:04:02
  Oh yeah. Does that make time go faster?
• 1:04:04
  Because your attention is always being consumed by something,
• 1:04:08
  right? Right.
• 1:04:10
  Yeah, if something doesn't feel right, don't settle for it.
• 1:04:18
  I agree with that one in Spain. Oh yeah, yeah, don't stay in
• 1:04:23
  places that drain you. That's another one that I've
• 1:04:27
  done, everybody's done, but. Somebody's done that.
• 1:04:30
  Way too much. I know somebody right now who
• 1:04:33
  has been lingering in the past for close to a decade just can't
• 1:04:37
  let it go. It's that.
• 1:04:39
  That's scary. Super sad don't.
• 1:04:41
  Yeah, don't waste your time. Yeah, you get that.
• 1:04:47
  Don't waste your time. And that's what irritates me
• 1:04:49
  when we have guests that we're supposed to be on our shows.
• 1:04:51
  We've had two now that that have cancelled the day.
• 1:04:53
  It's going to happen, you know that.
• 1:04:55
  And I and I understand that completely, but they're, they're
• 1:04:59
  luckily you and I are professionals and we can just go
• 1:05:01
  on the fly. But I will tell you and Chris's
• 1:05:05
  defense, whatever, you know, he handles a lot of the booking and
• 1:05:08
  all that kind of stuff. Whatever you guys are talking
• 1:05:11
  about behind the scenes. Here's what I'm going to say as
• 1:05:13
  his Co host and the person that asked him to do this in the 1st
• 1:05:15
  place. If we had cancelled a gig at
• 1:05:19
  some of the best places we ever played at right before we were
• 1:05:22
  going to play at it, we would have never got asked back there
• 1:05:26
  again because there were no other options right at that
• 1:05:29
  level. So not that, you know, we don't
• 1:05:35
  have millions of downloads, but we're in 18 countries and we
• 1:05:38
  have enough listenership and you guys all kick ass and we
• 1:05:41
  appreciate you listening and we're trying to bring you good
• 1:05:43
  content. So to the people that bailed,
• 1:05:46
  that's what you bailed on, you know?
• 1:05:48
  Right. And that's one of the reasons
• 1:05:49
  why we don't, we don't, we don't do our show live because we want
• 1:05:53
  to be able to have those guests on and talk to them and edit the
• 1:05:55
  clips and things like that. So then before they come on, one
• 1:05:58
  of our new trends is I'm going to let people know, oh, this
• 1:06:01
  such and such person starts, you know, it's going to matter show,
• 1:06:06
  you know, check it out because then you know who's coming on.
• 1:06:08
  Yeah, but the actual podcast is live.
• 1:06:10
  Oh yeah, we're live right now. Absolutely, yeah.
• 1:06:13
  I'm just saying I don't edit the actual podcast very much.
• 1:06:17
  No, we added, we added into shorts and we add a little bit,
• 1:06:19
  a little bit of, you know, touch up here and there.
• 1:06:21
  But everything else is, is what you see is what you get.
• 1:06:23
  We're real raw and we're relevant.
• 1:06:25
  Yes, I take pride in that, man. This is just a conversation.
• 1:06:28
  We're we're having a rap session here or whatever happened, man,
• 1:06:31
  whatever the cool kids call it. Now we're talking about the
• 1:06:34
  cheese. We're talking about the cheese
• 1:06:35
  and the and the and the queso, you know?
• 1:06:37
  Chris is one of the cool cats. The cheese Mike's the cool cat.
• 1:06:41
  I'm just along for the ride, people.
• 1:06:43
  So eventually the only thing you would regret is not doing more
• 1:06:47
  of what you love. Get that.
• 1:06:49
  The only thing you're going to regret is not doing more of what
• 1:06:53
  you love. Which is why I try to have sex
• 1:06:55
  with my wife every single day. That's how she.
• 1:06:58
  Wants to or not? Stellar.
• 1:07:01
  I was just getting ready to say that's a stellar mission.
• 1:07:03
  That is not a stellar mission. It's, it's, it's, it's always a
• 1:07:08
  stellar mission, man. You know, It's, you know, it's
• 1:07:11
  like I'm a fight. I'm a hunting rabbit season.
• 1:07:15
  I'm hunting rabbit. We're men, that's what we do.
• 1:07:18
  We are men. Was that the last one?
• 1:07:21
  Do we not pee standing up? That was.
• 1:07:24
  That was the last. One, this is going to make you
• 1:07:26
  laugh your ass off because if anything was ever made for Chris
• 1:07:29
  Dunham, it's this right here. And I know you're going to adopt
• 1:07:33
  this into your life, which is why I saved it.
• 1:07:35
  OK, Right. On.
• 1:07:37
  Right on. You can say have a nice day and
• 1:07:40
  no one thinks twice, but you cannot say enjoy the next 24
• 1:07:45
  hours and not sound like you're threatening someone.
• 1:07:49
  Oh, I love that. I knew you would.
• 1:07:52
  I totally saved that for. You.
• 1:07:54
  That's brilliant, man. Because somewhere along the way,
• 1:07:57
  you're going to work that into your life and you're going to
• 1:07:58
  catch somebody by surprise. And I know you're going to go,
• 1:08:01
  hey, enjoy the next 24 hours and you're going to move on about
• 1:08:04
  your day. And that motherfucker is going
• 1:08:05
  to go. What did he just say?
• 1:08:08
  Because I know you. I've.
• 1:08:10
  Never heard anybody say that it was in a meme.
• 1:08:14
  I like that man. Like I didn't say have a nice
• 1:08:16
  day all you want and no one thinks twice, but you cannot say
• 1:08:20
  enjoy the next 24 hours. Of your do you say of your life
• 1:08:24
  or? Just Nope, you just say enjoy
• 1:08:25
  the next 24 hours, OK? Enjoy the next 24 hours.
• 1:08:30
  Wait, hold on, maybe it did say of your life.
• 1:08:33
  Nope, that's it. Enjoy the next 24 hours and not
• 1:08:36
  sound like you're threatening someone.
• 1:08:39
  OK. Enjoy the next 24 hours, ladies
• 1:08:41
  and gentlemen. Yeah, so, so totally off topic,
• 1:08:47
  have you seen that that Jordan has signed with NBC Michael Ji?
• 1:08:52
  Did not. So he's going to provide
• 1:08:56
  commentary pre taped before or during and after select games
• 1:09:01
  throughout the season. He's not going to be there from
• 1:09:03
  when I'm when I gathered and reading what I read.
• 1:09:06
  So these are pre taped. It'll be relevant to it'll be
• 1:09:10
  relevant. OK, so like before the game
• 1:09:12
  starts, whoever is there, wherever he's at, they're going
• 1:09:14
  to have technology, they'll shoot a clip, whatever he's
• 1:09:18
  going to do, 2-3 minutes break. Kind of like we're doing right
• 1:09:20
  now, right? You can record anybody,
• 1:09:22
  anywhere, at any time, for any reason.
• 1:09:24
  Right. I'm just, you know, have to
• 1:09:26
  shatter your bubbles, people. But every, everything, every
• 1:09:29
  single late night television show is recorded in the
• 1:09:32
  afternoon and aired later that day.
• 1:09:34
  Sometimes. None of them are live.
• 1:09:35
  None of them are live like when I was on iHeartRadio.
• 1:09:38
  Remember that Seinfeld episode? What do you mean they record
• 1:09:41
  Carson or whatever it was, it was?
• 1:09:44
  Carson. It was Carson.
• 1:09:45
  Was it Carson at the time? Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  What do you mean? They record Carson at 11 AM?
• 1:09:49
  It doesn't come on till 10 at night.
• 1:09:51
  Right. Yeah, yeah, no.
• 1:09:53
  When I when I was on radio, we recorded Tuesday morning at 10
• 1:09:55
  AM. My show is aired Saturday and
• 1:09:57
  Sunday mornings, so you know. We'll throw ourselves under the
• 1:10:00
  bus. Ladies and gentlemen, it is
• 1:10:02
  Tuesday evening at 418 Pacific Standard Time, 6:18 Central
• 1:10:08
  Standard Time, and you won't see this until probably a Sunday or
• 1:10:12
  well, for surely a Sunday or a Wednesday.
• 1:10:15
  Yeah. Because Who's Who drops What
• 1:10:17
  drops tomorrow? Is that?
• 1:10:20
  Is that OK? Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  So tomorrow. Yeah.
• 1:10:22
  So I I'll make a thing for that. But yeah.
• 1:10:25
  So where was I going with that? I was going somewhere.
• 1:10:29
  Squirrel. Squirrel.
• 1:10:33
  You were talking about recording a radio on on Tuesdays.
• 1:10:38
  I know, but there was a reason I I brought that up.
• 1:10:39
  I don't know if I can remember now something.
• 1:10:45
  About not being live. Oh, dude, there was I, I totally
• 1:10:48
  wanted to. Oh yeah, the Jordan thing, The
• 1:10:50
  Jordan thing. So yeah, there you go.
• 1:10:52
  So from what I read from understand, he'll, he'll do his
• 1:10:55
  little pregame, you know, and then he'll watch the first half
• 1:10:58
  of the game right from his Learjet or his yacht or
• 1:11:02
  whatever. Batman Bunker.
• 1:11:04
  Right. And then he'll he'll have his
• 1:11:07
  halftime breakdown, OK, whatever.
• 1:11:10
  And then he'll wrap up the the game at the end.
• 1:11:12
  It's not, it's not a continuous thing.
• 1:11:14
  It's not like every night you're going to see Jordan or hear
• 1:11:16
  Jordan. I think the ploy of it is, I
• 1:11:18
  think, to get more people to tune into NBC slash Peacock,
• 1:11:20
  wherever the games are going to be played.
• 1:11:23
  Or, and just to care about the NBA in general at all because
• 1:11:27
  their viewership is down drastic.
• 1:11:29
  It's way down, it's way down. And part of the problem is
• 1:11:31
  LeBron James. Like I don't care.
• 1:11:34
  The fact that the game is boring as fuck it is.
• 1:11:37
  Boring. They like if you look at I had a
• 1:11:39
  debate with my friend Mark Montgomery, hey Mark, which I
• 1:11:41
  want to get him on the show because he would be a great
• 1:11:44
  conversation. Like he has to be.
• 1:11:46
  It has to be a Friday. We could.
• 1:11:47
  I swear to God to you, dude, if Mark comes on, we can talk for
• 1:11:50
  four hours and it'll seem like it's 20 minutes.
• 1:11:52
  Let it go the the dude I I keep, I welcome him.
• 1:11:55
  He he is like you in in the fact that he's very well read or or
• 1:12:00
  audio heard. Yeah, you know, I like to go
• 1:12:03
  deep on shit. Right.
• 1:12:04
  And, and, and so we had this little quick debate about I put
• 1:12:08
  this thing up on my page yesterday on Facebook about
• 1:12:11
  Jordan's coming in the NBNBCNBA and NBC.
• 1:12:15
  And I'm and the meme that I found of the picture I found was
• 1:12:18
  basically Jordan doesn't doesn't pull punches like it is what it
• 1:12:25
  is. He's friends with Barkley for a
• 1:12:26
  reason. Right.
• 1:12:28
  Barkley speaks his mind, too. Right, but they're not that good
• 1:12:31
  of friends anymore. Because Barkley spoke his mind.
• 1:12:35
  Almost According learned the lesson he needed to in life.
• 1:12:37
  Right, right. At least according to the the
• 1:12:39
  Jordan documentary on him. And then what I've heard Barkley
• 1:12:44
  say. But yeah, Barkley will will RIP
• 1:12:47
  anybody to shreds. Barkley has ripped LeBron to
• 1:12:49
  shreds. He's going to be to shreds all
• 1:12:51
  season long this season. Yeah, yeah, it's going to be
• 1:12:54
  different when Jordan rips the NBA to shred, because if you
• 1:12:57
  look at. I don't know if he will, though.
• 1:13:00
  Is he going to be the political? I don't think so.
• 1:13:02
  Politically correct. Jordan, I don't think so.
• 1:13:05
  I, I don't, I don't. I mean, he has, he has a high
• 1:13:08
  level respect for the game. I saw some stats where you know,
• 1:13:13
  everybody he ever battled against in his career, the the
• 1:13:18
  names, the the namesakes, right? They were all 7 or 8 out of 10,
• 1:13:23
  meaning meaning you know, he battled the scoring champion,
• 1:13:27
  you know, 7 out of 10 times, right?
• 1:13:30
  So I mean just the competition that he had compared to what
• 1:13:33
  LeBron has is night and day LeBron.
• 1:13:36
  I don't think LeBron would last in this NBA because he would
• 1:13:40
  just get his ass kicked. You know, it's embarrassing.
• 1:13:42
  He's an embarrassing human from on on the court.
• 1:13:46
  I I hear the stuff he does off the off the court and his
• 1:13:48
  philanthropic work and and what he does for his community.
• 1:13:52
  That's all great, but I couldn't agree with him.
• 1:13:54
  He's horrible for basketball. It's terrible.
• 1:13:57
  It's I mean when you, when you flop to the point that your
• 1:14:00
  teammates just walk over you, Yeah, dude, stop.
• 1:14:04
  Just you're arguing that LeBron is good for the game.
• 1:14:07
  You have to re evaluate what you're looking at, right?
• 1:14:10
  You do. There's something wrong with
• 1:14:12
  you, right? The only reason it's not good
• 1:14:13
  for basketball. No, absolutely not absolutely
• 1:14:16
  not. He's he's making it like I told
• 1:14:20
  Mark when we were talking about this, like if, if, if, if what
• 1:14:23
  was LeBron? He he thinks LeBron is a great
• 1:14:28
  athlete. He thinks Jordan's very
• 1:14:30
  unapproachable. You know, he kind of.
• 1:14:33
  LeBron is a great athlete, there's no denying that.
• 1:14:36
  But would he, would he, would he survive in the 90s playing
• 1:14:41
  basketball? Not that you had to drive the
• 1:14:43
  lane almost every player to get there.
• 1:14:46
  No, because he's hurt all the time and those guys played every
• 1:14:48
  fucking game. And they hit they and so I was
• 1:14:52
  watching. Do you see the?
• 1:14:53
  Distinction. That's what Jordan and Barkley
• 1:14:55
  keep saying. We didn't have a oh, he's
• 1:14:59
  potentially injured fucking rule, right?
• 1:15:02
  Right. No.
• 1:15:03
  We didn't play, we didn't get paid.
• 1:15:05
  That was the bottom line, right? They played every game.
• 1:15:08
  They took prime and playing every game.
• 1:15:11
  They have a There's things on, There's a thing on Netflix.
• 1:15:13
  I think it is. It's Boston, the Boston versus
• 1:15:16
  the Lakers, right? The the best team you love to
• 1:15:19
  hate, something like that. I got halfway through the first
• 1:15:23
  episode and swear to God watching just the first half of
• 1:15:27
  the basketball, the assaults that occurred.
• 1:15:31
  Oh yeah, that was a brutal game back then in the 90s.
• 1:15:35
  Right. And and the coaches are on the
• 1:15:38
  sideline screaming and hollering like there's this one.
• 1:15:41
  People were setting blind pics and shit and just laying people
• 1:15:44
  out. Right.
• 1:15:45
  It was, it's Lakers. It's all about the Lakers and
• 1:15:47
  the Celtics and their dynasty and their battles and for
• 1:15:49
  championship supremacy and stuff.
• 1:15:51
  There's, I mean, there's when they're running away from the
• 1:15:53
  basket, they score basket. And then and then I think Larry
• 1:15:56
  Bird shoves Magic Johnson and Magic Johnson turns around.
• 1:15:59
  There's no freaking whistle blown.
• 1:16:02
  There's no stop play. That late 70s to mid 90s late
• 1:16:07
  90s basketball was it just got more brutal all the time.
• 1:16:11
  Which then they nerfed the world right?
• 1:16:13
  It got worse because they made stupid rules that made the game
• 1:16:17
  less interesting to watch. It's a lot like watching soccer
• 1:16:21
  now. If you if if you think Lebron's
• 1:16:24
  the greatest basketball player ever, you're entitled to your
• 1:16:25
  opinion. I, I challenge you to go on
• 1:16:27
  YouTube and just pull up the 93 NBA season, not just the Bulls,
• 1:16:32
  just the 93 NBA season and watch a handful of games.
• 1:16:36
  And you know, one of Michael Jordan's greatest quotes.
• 1:16:39
  What? He would have said if I cared
• 1:16:41
  about statistics, I would have tried a lot harder, right?
• 1:16:43
  I cared about winning ranks. Yep.
• 1:16:46
  Like if I cared about those and his statistics in the short
• 1:16:50
  amount of time that he played Blow Lebron's out of the water
• 1:16:54
  night and day and twice on Sunday, as they say, right?
• 1:16:58
  They just do. And here's a man who put up
• 1:17:00
  those kind of numbers. Nobody's still ever been.
• 1:17:03
  What is it the offense of a Defensive Player of the Year at
• 1:17:05
  the? Same time and the MVP of the
• 1:17:09
  season and the MVP of the playoffs, right?
• 1:17:13
  He had all four one year. Like that's unheard of.
• 1:17:15
  He watched LeBron on defense. LeBron stands there.
• 1:17:18
  He doesn't go down the field. They don't court.
• 1:17:20
  He just stands there. The superstars don't play
• 1:17:22
  defense, which is one of the problems that I have with the
• 1:17:24
  NBA. And you know, everybody asks me.
• 1:17:26
  What do you want to call basketball, dude?
• 1:17:28
  Because they still play the game the way it's supposed to be
• 1:17:30
  played. There's an offense and a defense
• 1:17:33
  and it's still a competition, right?
• 1:17:37
  That's the word I'm looking for. There's still a competition.
• 1:17:40
  What I see in the NBA is we're going to throw the ball from one
• 1:17:43
  end to the other. We're going to shoot a three.
• 1:17:44
  We're going to miss every now and then, somebody's going to
• 1:17:47
  get an alley oop dunk. Then we're going to go back to
• 1:17:49
  throwing it up and down the court.
• 1:17:51
  There's no, you just hit the nail on the head.
• 1:17:52
  There's no defense. No, I will.
• 1:17:55
  I will say the one caveat because I've always liked the
• 1:17:57
  three-point ball, right? Steph Curry is amazing.
• 1:18:01
  I love watching Steph Curry. I went through there.
• 1:18:04
  Steph like you've obviously you've seen some he.
• 1:18:06
  Shoots the ball and you're like, there's no way that's going in.
• 1:18:09
  And then when he's on a cold streak, it's like, what's wrong
• 1:18:12
  with you? Like they're out of the playoffs
• 1:18:13
  because he didn't play. I was like, why were they?
• 1:18:15
  Why did they only win one out of five games?
• 1:18:17
  Like, what's up? And then I googled it and he's
• 1:18:19
  hurt. And that's how much I'm not into
• 1:18:21
  the NBA anymore because I just, I, I Googled it every once in a
• 1:18:26
  while, like NBA playoffs. Oh, the playoffs showing.
• 1:18:28
  Oh. I try and watch, I just can't.
• 1:18:32
  Yeah, no, it's, you know, it is what it is.
• 1:18:36
  They've it's, you know, it's like Jordan said, you're being
• 1:18:39
  paid on potential, not what you've done, right, Right.
• 1:18:42
  There's an A, there's an, a quote, right.
• 1:18:45
  There's an ASU football player that that is getting $15 million
• 1:18:48
  to stay at, to play at a issue and, and some other team had
• 1:18:51
  recruited him, wanted to give him 23 million.
• 1:18:53
  He said no and people are kind of going back and forth with
• 1:18:56
  that, which, OK, he's already, he's already, he's in college.
• 1:18:58
  He's he's got $15 million. Like, why would you leave what
• 1:19:03
  you comfort with to go make another 7 million in a different
• 1:19:06
  city, different state. So, you know, Speaking of money,
• 1:19:11
  do you see Brock? What Brock Purdy got paid?
• 1:19:13
  No. 260 five, $265 million. Good for him. 180 million won
• 1:19:19
  and guaranteed. Good for good for him, but.
• 1:19:23
  You know how I feel about these subjects.
• 1:19:24
  I do. I couldn't sign that fucking
• 1:19:27
  thing fast enough. No but but.
• 1:19:31
  I play one game and I'd be like, Oh, my neck.
• 1:19:34
  Oh no, I do, believe me, I'd sign up too.
• 1:19:36
  But the but the argument is and it's always the same argument.
• 1:19:39
  It's OK. So he and I know people that
• 1:19:43
  knew, like I have a friend I went to high school with that
• 1:19:45
  ended up being a football coach. He actually coached him like,
• 1:19:47
  you know, So we, we, we had a little debate on Facebook.
• 1:19:53
  Do I think he's proven himself to be worth that much money?
• 1:19:56
  No. No, that's my that's my point.
• 1:19:58
  Like Eli Manning never restructured his contract,
• 1:20:02
  right? Michael Jordan And then I'm not
• 1:20:04
  saying Eli and Jordan are the same category, but Jordan never
• 1:20:06
  restructured his contract. He played his original contract
• 1:20:09
  till the day it expired, and then he.
• 1:20:11
  And then he got $50 million a year for every year thereafter.
• 1:20:13
  Squirrel moment on topic. Yeah, OK, Who just got their
• 1:20:17
  last check for like $3.2 million?
• 1:20:19
  That's being they quit playing baseball like in the 90s or some
• 1:20:23
  shit. Oh, what's this?
• 1:20:24
  Did you see that? Yeah.
• 1:20:27
  I was blown away by that. He it was that was his agent man
• 1:20:31
  every. Year Was it Ken Griffey Junior?
• 1:20:33
  No, somebody else. They got like a last 3.2 million
• 1:20:38
  dollar $3.6 million check. They've been paid for like 22
• 1:20:42
  years after they stopped playing.
• 1:20:43
  I thought that was great. Yeah, it was brilliant.
• 1:20:46
  I forget I know it. I know it sounds up my tongue
• 1:20:48
  but. I anyway, isn't that, that's
• 1:20:50
  super smart, right? Yeah, totally.
• 1:20:52
  And that's and that's the thing. It's it's it's.
• 1:20:55
  Thumbs up. Jordan, again, I go back to
• 1:20:58
  Jordan, because Jordan signed his rookie contract.
• 1:21:00
  That was it. He never negotiated it.
• 1:21:02
  He let that contract expire. Then he negotiated.
• 1:21:04
  He got 50 million a year, which back then 50 million a year was,
• 1:21:08
  you know, Brady renegotiated all the time.
• 1:21:10
  But Brady renegotiated his contract because he wanted to
• 1:21:12
  have strong support players around him, which makes sense.
• 1:21:15
  Eli Never. Did win in Super Bowls.
• 1:21:19
  When Eli retired, which a lot of people don't know this at the at
• 1:21:22
  the time, Eli was the most, he was the highest played paid
• 1:21:28
  football player in the history of the NFL from a contractual
• 1:21:31
  standpoint because he never, he never negotiated.
• 1:21:34
  He just he signed it and that's it showed up every day and
• 1:21:36
  played. He missed one game because Ben
• 1:21:38
  McAdoo benched him and but other than that, like, you know, so
• 1:21:42
  that's my point. Brock Purdy, yes, he took them
• 1:21:45
  to the playoffs. He took them into the Super
• 1:21:48
  Bowl. But and it's a team sport, but
• 1:21:53
  he hasn't he hasn't delivered and I he's, you know, super good
• 1:21:57
  human. I mean, I know he's Arizona
• 1:21:58
  ties. So I hear all kinds of, you
• 1:22:00
  know, lovey dovey stories about him.
• 1:22:02
  Yeah, and I'm not saying he's not.
• 1:22:04
  Like. You said he's a great athlete,
• 1:22:07
  but to command that kind of money with that shorter resume
• 1:22:12
  is a huge. You're talking like you're going
• 1:22:15
  all in on an opening roll in craps hoping somebody's going to
• 1:22:18
  hit a 7 or 11, right? Right, right.
• 1:22:21
  That's what I see. If I'm an owner, I would be
• 1:22:23
  like, we're going to do what? Yeah.
• 1:22:26
  I just hold. Whoa, whoa.
• 1:22:28
  Like you. Know and stop the.
• 1:22:29
  Train. And to his and right, and but to
• 1:22:32
  brought it to to Brock's the Brock's I, I don't you know what
• 1:22:36
  I mean. To Brock's credit, to Brock's
• 1:22:38
  credit, you could have gone in and renegotiated his his rookie
• 1:22:41
  contract. He was Mr. Relevant.
• 1:22:43
  He made crap compared to everybody else.
• 1:22:46
  Yeah, league and. He right, and he could have held
• 1:22:48
  out like, you know, a lot of players do, but he didn't.
• 1:22:51
  So which shows you the type of character he is as a human.
• 1:22:54
  He had a contract. He honored it, you know, period.
• 1:22:57
  Great for him, I just don't. Yeah, you know me, I'm never
• 1:23:00
  denying denouncing someone's character because I don't know
• 1:23:03
  the guy. I'm just saying with the small
• 1:23:06
  bit that I see that he's done in the face of the public in the
• 1:23:10
  job that he's being paid to do. Right.
• 1:23:13
  No, I I couldn't sit there in good conscience and give him
• 1:23:16
  $181 million. No.
• 1:23:20
  And that's guaranteed his total contract's 265, but it it it and
• 1:23:24
  so like. I might give him 265 and say OK,
• 1:23:27
  20 million of this is guaranteed and the others incentive based
• 1:23:31
  and I would have some pretty good incentives, right?
• 1:23:33
  Right. I mean, but go back.
• 1:23:34
  Deshaun Watson. They paid him $260 million.
• 1:23:37
  He's awash. Deshaun Cousins will never.
• 1:23:39
  Yeah. Cousins.
• 1:23:40
  Yeah, Kirk Cousins. He's the I think he's holds the
• 1:23:43
  record for the highest pay, most amount of money in the shortest
• 1:23:46
  amount of time with no results. Right.
• 1:23:49
  Good on football. Heck of a football player, you
• 1:23:52
  know, but he never heck. Of a human being.
• 1:23:54
  Right. Yeah, totally.
• 1:23:56
  So Deshaun Watson, that's a waste of money because he's
• 1:23:58
  never going to amount to anything.
• 1:23:59
  Kyler Murray, waste of money. He's, I'm sorry, Arizona, he's
• 1:24:02
  not taking you to the Super Bowl.
• 1:24:03
  He's too. Small.
• 1:24:04
  No, he's another bust. I couldn't agree with you more.
• 1:24:06
  Total bust. Our guy's going to be a bust.
• 1:24:09
  You watch. Who's your guy?
• 1:24:11
  Caleb Williams. Oh yeah, Cale, Yeah.
• 1:24:13
  Did he get paid? Paid.
• 1:24:15
  I don't know yet you. I don't think he got paid paid
• 1:24:17
  and he's still on his rookie contract.
• 1:24:18
  I think that's the best thing. The best thing that could have
• 1:24:21
  happened to Shadur Sanders was the fifth round, because now
• 1:24:23
  he's got a chip and he picked #12 because he's coming after
• 1:24:28
  Brady. Good.
• 1:24:29
  Come after Brady, dude. Show us.
• 1:24:30
  Show us, Show us that you're more than what everybody thought
• 1:24:33
  you were because you handled your meetings and your
• 1:24:35
  interviews. Show the world you were wrong.
• 1:24:38
  We were wrong. Here's.
• 1:24:39
  What Tom Brady's saying, I've been there, done that, right?
• 1:24:42
  So yeah, sure. Come after all those.
• 1:24:44
  Records. Yeah, I would be.
• 1:24:46
  That would be fantastic. That would be that would be a
• 1:24:48
  greatest story ever. Of course it would.
• 1:24:51
  Was supposed to be here. Drop to here, chip on his
• 1:24:54
  shoulder. I'm going to change the the
• 1:24:55
  evolution of. Football goes out and breaks
• 1:24:57
  every record, Dan, If I've ever seen, I would love to see that.
• 1:25:00
  Right. Absolutely.
• 1:25:02
  Because it'd be great for the game, right?
• 1:25:04
  Exciting. But Willie, No.
• 1:25:08
  No, I have my doubt. No, because because the Browns
• 1:25:11
  have 5 quarterbacks. I saw that, I'm glad you brought
• 1:25:15
  that up. I was sitting there having
• 1:25:16
  coffee with my dad when the, the week that he got drafted and
• 1:25:21
  their little thing scrolls across the bottom of ESPN all
• 1:25:24
  the time, right? And it listed the Browns
• 1:25:26
  quarterbacks and it's like #1 #2 #3 and it just kept going #4 I'm
• 1:25:31
  like, Jesus, they got 5 quarterbacks.
• 1:25:32
  And five quarterbacks. So two of them got to go.
• 1:25:36
  You got to cut 2 of them because you can't carry more than three.
• 1:25:40
  Yeah, you get one for the practice squad and a backup.
• 1:25:44
  Yeah, so two of them are so, you know, and it can't be the I
• 1:25:48
  mean, they they should just cut Deshaun Watson because he's
• 1:25:51
  just, he's just, you know, you know.
• 1:25:55
  You said it, he's a bust. He's a total bust.
• 1:25:58
  He doesn't have it. He doesn't he, he just, he was
• 1:26:01
  really good in Houston, but that's when he was really good,
• 1:26:04
  right, You know? That's it.
• 1:26:05
  He just, he peaked. Yeah, he did, which is sad
• 1:26:08
  because, you know, but he made his millions and yeah, Oh yeah,
• 1:26:12
  he made all his money and then some.
• 1:26:16
  You know what else you want to talk about, Squirrel?
• 1:26:20
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  Any Yeah, pretty much anywhere you would listen to a podcast.
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  I can't think of one that we're not on.
• 1:27:00
  And is that something that you did or does it just happen that
• 1:27:03
  way? No, I did it.
• 1:27:04
  It's called a RSS feed and it doesn't really matter, but it
• 1:27:09
  stands for. I know what it is, yeah.
• 1:27:12
  Real simple syndication. That's what it stands for.
• 1:27:14
  So you put the RSS feed on different things then?
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  So we're on Overcast, iHeartRadio, Amazon, Apple,
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  Spotify. Like I said, pretty much
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  anywhere you would listen to a podcast were there so.
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  You're going, you're going to have to show me that for the my
• 1:27:49
  podcast, boys and girls, which is a moment with the real estate
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  guy. Every Tuesday I drop Oh yeah, we
• 1:27:53
  do tangible information. Yes.
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  That was it. That's all I had.
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  That was my plan. And post those on our page and
• 1:28:01
  post them on the Chris and Mike Show.
• 1:28:03
  When we get that going, we'll set you up a section for your
• 1:28:07
  real estate podcast for sure. Cool.
• 1:28:10
  And maybe if I get really good at this, we'll take on some more
• 1:28:13
  people for the Iron Dog Podcast Network and actually make it a
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  real podcast network. That would be fun.
• 1:28:19
  It would be fun one step at a time, but might need Mark
• 1:28:23
  Jeffrey's help. One step at a time, Buck.
• 1:28:26
  Jeffrey hasn't hasn't left us a review yet.
• 1:28:28
  I've been acting bugging him a cold time.
• 1:28:30
  He's a busy guy. I'm sure he'll get to it.
• 1:28:32
  I know, I know. You brought a tight ship,
• 1:28:34
  brother. I bought a tight ship.
• 1:28:37
  You see, I got Joe on there. I did.
• 1:28:39
  Oh, yeah, I didn't. I didn't.
• 1:28:40
  Good job. What about Jake?
• 1:28:41
  Jake responded today. Jake has been taking finals, so
• 1:28:44
  he has checked out of the universe for a couple weeks here
• 1:28:48
  and I think he's reintegrating himself back to society.
• 1:28:51
  So, all right. Good.
• 1:28:53
  Yeah, Yeah. He's a college student.
• 1:28:55
  Yeah, because because I anybody that like the one that was
• 1:28:57
  supposed to be on the show today, I told him like the show
• 1:29:00
  doesn't start without making sure you've done these three
• 1:29:02
  things. And she did those three things.
• 1:29:05
  She left us a review about excited to come on the show and
• 1:29:08
  then, yeah, not on the show. So, you know, and, and I tell
• 1:29:14
  everybody it's you know. I understand shit happens but.
• 1:29:17
  I do too. You've booked.
• 1:29:18
  Things up because we have a show to run here, right?
• 1:29:21
  We can't just not have a guest all the time, so.
• 1:29:23
  No. And if you're a life coach, you
• 1:29:25
  should know what your life is about that day.
• 1:29:28
  It's helpful. You know, so we do.
• 1:29:31
  Surely keep track of better track of your husband please.
• 1:29:34
  Yes, yes. He was in the hospital.
• 1:29:38
  Poor soul, right? Anything else you want to talk
• 1:29:42
  about? What do I have?
• 1:29:44
  Oh, I'm going to leave you with one funny thought and this will
• 1:29:47
  make you feel better when you run into people that just make
• 1:29:50
  you go all. Right.
• 1:29:52
  Well, you know, enjoy the next 24 hours, Mike.
• 1:29:54
  I fucking love that. That was so right up our alley.
• 1:29:58
  I'm like screenshot screenshot screenshot like 9 times so I
• 1:30:02
  wouldn't lose it. This is a true fact.
• 1:30:05
  This is from Look. Speaking of the devil, Nikki
• 1:30:07
  just walked in. She's not the devil I'm talking
• 1:30:09
  to. No, no.
• 1:30:10
  But we were Speaking of you. Know you're talking to the
• 1:30:12
  devil. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:13
  She's the sexy devil. There you go.
• 1:30:16
  We can. We can go with that.
• 1:30:18
  This is from National Geographic.
• 1:30:20
  OK. One in ten Americans still think
• 1:30:23
  the Earth is flat. See.
• 1:30:26
  OK, so little. Man, Mike said hi.
• 1:30:28
  She just waved. Mike says hi.
• 1:30:29
  So so when little man, I showed him this picture earlier this
• 1:30:32
  week of there's there's no ice wall in the Antarctic.
• 1:30:35
  OK, you know what I'm talking about.
• 1:30:37
  Yes, I totally know what you're talking about.
• 1:30:39
  So it's like 9000 meters tall. So the way the picture, right?
• 1:30:43
  So the way the picture looks, you have the Earth, you have the
• 1:30:46
  Antarctica, then you have this wall that comes around and then
• 1:30:50
  it's black because it's obviously the dark side of the
• 1:30:53
  wall. So it's black.
• 1:30:55
  He's like the Earth is flat. Pop, pop.
• 1:30:57
  No, it's not. So then I went so, so because we
• 1:31:02
  were on YouTube, because he wants to be an astral, he's
• 1:31:03
  still in that, that space mode. So we went on YouTube and I and
• 1:31:06
  I, I, I googled Earth. I mean, he was messing with
• 1:31:10
  because he's getting that sense of humor.
• 1:31:13
  So then, yeah, I yeah, that's the Earth's round, dude, come
• 1:31:15
  on. But the but the picture legit.
• 1:31:18
  You could tell by looking at the picture why somebody would think
• 1:31:20
  it was flat. 100%. You know.
• 1:31:23
  That's how that's how these people talk these people into
• 1:31:25
  it. But like, dude, I got
• 1:31:27
  photographic evidence. It's like, no, you have an
• 1:31:29
  illusion. Yeah, it is an illusion.
• 1:31:33
  Like what you got there, Plant? It's a, it's a plant.
• 1:31:36
  She's she's cleaning out her classroom and she has plants in
• 1:31:38
  her classroom. So I was at the end of the
• 1:31:41
  school year. Yeah, so she's bringing plants
• 1:31:43
  home. She's got this.
• 1:31:45
  She's got a half a day tomorrow with kids and then the rest of
• 1:31:47
  the week is just nonsense and full day tomorrow, half day
• 1:31:52
  Thursday. Good for her.
• 1:31:53
  There's the plants. You have an addition to your
• 1:31:55
  office. There's more.
• 1:31:57
  There's more. Plants.
• 1:31:58
  Plants breathe life into America, into the souls.
• 1:32:02
  A funny little fact here, boys and girls.
• 1:32:03
  Jasmine. OK, the plant that Jasmine, it
• 1:32:07
  actually cleans and purifies and deodorizes your air.
• 1:32:10
  So if you have And it helps you sleep better.
• 1:32:12
  So if you want to sleep better at night, put a Jasmine plant in
• 1:32:14
  your bedroom. I'm glad you said something
• 1:32:16
  about that. I'm going to send you one other
• 1:32:18
  thing that's going to blow your mind.
• 1:32:20
  You don't have to. You can just read it because
• 1:32:22
  it's kind of long. OK?
• 1:32:24
  You're going to love this one too.
• 1:32:27
  It has to do with what you just said, food.
• 1:32:29
  About Jasmine plants or. No food secrets you need to know
• 1:32:33
  it's food secrets, yes. So.
• 1:32:37
  Here's one that blew my mind. OK, place mushrooms and sunlight
• 1:32:41
  an hour before cooking. They absorb vitamin D like a
• 1:32:43
  sponge. I didn't know that.
• 1:32:46
  I didn't know that either. Interesting.
• 1:32:48
  Do you use turmeric in in your diet?
• 1:32:51
  Turmeric Every Every now and then we have turmeric.
• 1:32:53
  It depends on if we're having casual Indian food for dinner,
• 1:32:56
  which is very not. It does you no good if you don't
• 1:32:58
  use it with black pepper. But we don't we'd.
• 1:33:01
  Oh, really? So Curry.
• 1:33:02
  Curry turmeric. Works 20 times better when eaten
• 1:33:06
  with black pepper. Wow.
• 1:33:10
  This is another one that everybody needs to hear.
• 1:33:13
  Crushed garlic and let's sit for 10 minutes before cooking.
• 1:33:16
  This boost the disease fighting compound Allison.
• 1:33:20
  Huh. I lost my mind on Allison Rd.
• 1:33:25
  This blew my mind too. I always wondered if tomatoes
• 1:33:28
  were still healthy when they're cooked.
• 1:33:32
  Tomatoes are actually more healthy when they're cooked.
• 1:33:34
  They release more Lycopen, a powerful antioxidant which is
• 1:33:38
  good for your heart and your skin, makes your skin glow.
• 1:33:42
  Chris Dunham. Makes your skin glow.
• 1:33:44
  It's glowing. It's glowing right now because I
• 1:33:46
  got the light right there. It's glowing.
• 1:33:51
  OK, so your other one here pairing item iron with vitamin C
• 1:33:54
  it boosts that boosts the iron absorption by combining it with
• 1:33:58
  foods I. Found that kind of fascinating
• 1:34:00
  too. It's a trip like I do lemon or
• 1:34:03
  use lemon juice on greens. Talk to Peter Ho about this on
• 1:34:07
  Friday. See, now we both got it.
• 1:34:09
  OK, interesting man. Don't eat oatmeal plain.
• 1:34:14
  No, because oatmeal plain is bad for you.
• 1:34:16
  It's not too healthy, people think.
• 1:34:17
  That's right this Friday, right? Peter Holt and Nate Palmer,
• 1:34:21
  $1,000,000 body. I'm looking forward to this.
• 1:34:23
  Like Nate's like, can I pick a fight?
• 1:34:25
  Nate, can I pick a? No, a debate that's.
• 1:34:28
  Why? I said I'm like, I'm like, I'm
• 1:34:29
  like, you can't pick a fight, Nate.
• 1:34:31
  We're not fighting, we're debating.
• 1:34:32
  I'm like, I'm like, like Peter's a health and Wellness coach.
• 1:34:35
  You're a health and fitness coach.
• 1:34:37
  I'm like, you know, because he saw Peter doing the doing the
• 1:34:40
  drops. Nate apparently has issue with
• 1:34:43
  drops, so we're going to find out.
• 1:34:46
  That'll be fun. They can.
• 1:34:48
  They can Duke it out in a healthy they're going to be
• 1:34:51
  fine. I know, I know.
• 1:34:53
  You and I agree to disagree all the time on this, that's why I
• 1:34:56
  always ask you before I give you my opinion.
• 1:34:59
  Right. But you never have to ask.
• 1:35:00
  You just have to give me your opinion.
• 1:35:01
  I don't care. I don't.
• 1:35:02
  I don't need to be. I don't.
• 1:35:03
  I. Don't.
• 1:35:03
  No, I don't want you to be swayed in any way.
• 1:35:05
  And then then when we don't agree, I'm like, now here's why
• 1:35:08
  I don't agree with you, but whatever.
• 1:35:10
  I asked you earlier, which I could never remember now because
• 1:35:12
  that was over an hour ago. Right.
• 1:35:15
  We agreed wholeheartedly. Oh, it was on the shooting.
• 1:35:19
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:35:20
  That guy, the Alec Baldwin. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:35:23
  So another Margie story. Because she lived in Hollywood,
• 1:35:28
  so she she she punched Tom Petty's daughter in the nose.
• 1:35:34
  She's the one that authorized the biography, the movie.
• 1:35:36
  I know. I know, and so Margie punched
• 1:35:38
  her when they were kids. Billy Idol was riding down
• 1:35:43
  Sunset Strip. I think I may or might correct,
• 1:35:46
  but on his Harley and she screamed to the Topper lungs.
• 1:35:49
  Oh my God, it's Billy Arnold to the fact that he squirked his
• 1:35:52
  bike and turned back and looked and almost got in an accident.
• 1:35:57
  So she, I mean, that's why, that's why we worked so well
• 1:36:00
  when I did the radio show because it was the IT was the,
• 1:36:02
  she was the Robin Quivers to my Howard Stern.
• 1:36:03
  It just worked. But just, you know, because you
• 1:36:05
  got to have somebody like my podcast I do was cool because
• 1:36:08
  it's just me dropping hints and tips, but they're only like 2
• 1:36:10
  minutes or less because I'm not going to sit here and.
• 1:36:13
  I will tell you right now, there is only one podcast this tells
• 1:36:17
  you. So Chris couldn't have brought
• 1:36:19
  up a better subject. There is only one podcast that I
• 1:36:22
  can listen to. Or the guy does it by himself.
• 1:36:24
  And Rogan would agree in spades too, and that's Bill Burr
• 1:36:29
  because he is a fucking artist. That man can argue with himself
• 1:36:35
  and have you laughing so hard that you got to hit pause.
• 1:36:38
  It's like that. I just got I need a minute,
• 1:36:39
  right? And then let him go on again.
• 1:36:42
  He's just got the talent to be able to know how to keep a
• 1:36:45
  conversation going by himself. Joe tried it a couple times by
• 1:36:49
  himself and he finally admit it's weird.
• 1:36:53
  Yeah. I think you've got to get over
• 1:36:55
  the fact you're you just feel like you're talking to no one.
• 1:36:59
  If you weren't here right now I would feel super weird.
• 1:37:01
  Well, and that's why when I, when I because I've gone back
• 1:37:04
  and forth forever about doing a podcast with a moment with the
• 1:37:07
  real estate guy, because I've always had that kind of idea.
• 1:37:09
  Sure. But a couple people have reached
• 1:37:12
  out to locally, they're like, yeah, you know, maybe a show
• 1:37:16
  here or there, but I'm not like, OK, so then I just find this
• 1:37:18
  out, you know what, what if I just drop 2 minute segments and
• 1:37:21
  I just focus on one, one thing and, and just shoot it.
• 1:37:26
  And then it's just, it's, it's information.
• 1:37:29
  That's legit information. It's real.
• 1:37:31
  It ties to the real estate world.
• 1:37:33
  And it just, you know, so I think it, I think it worked.
• 1:37:38
  It wasn't, you know, I what I wanted to do, which bummed me
• 1:37:40
  out. Like you can't get shorts out of
• 1:37:43
  Riverside unless you go for. They have to be 5 minutes or
• 1:37:45
  longer. Right, so I did my first one
• 1:37:48
  like a minute and I was like I can't do a short.
• 1:37:49
  I'm like OK, maybe I'll go 2 minutes.
• 1:37:51
  I still can't do a short. I don't know what I would.
• 1:37:53
  The only way I can do a 5 minute show is if I had.
• 1:37:56
  I have a way for you to fix that.
• 1:37:58
  Well, I was thinking. To talk about it off the air.
• 1:38:00
  OK. I was thinking if I had like,
• 1:38:01
  like, you know, 45 second to a minute knowledge bombs and just
• 1:38:07
  record it on one thing and then there's my shorts.
• 1:38:10
  You don't even have to do that. You can combine those things you
• 1:38:14
  did together as one. Oh and then and then.
• 1:38:19
  So I had to have 6 episodes as one and then pull shorts out of
• 1:38:22
  it. Yeah.
• 1:38:23
  So what you would do is you're going to put them all into one
• 1:38:26
  file. Just make a new file, put them
• 1:38:28
  all in there together as one long thing that you're never
• 1:38:32
  going to use for anything other than to cut those shorts out of.
• 1:38:35
  Oh. Right on.
• 1:38:36
  OK, you have to show me that. Yeah, I learned it by accident
• 1:38:40
  because you accidentally recorded two of our podcasts in
• 1:38:43
  Wade Simmons Podcast and I couldn't find it, so I had to
• 1:38:46
  reach out to customer service. I, I don't know how I did that,
• 1:38:49
  but that explains why when I opened up Riverside, Wade
• 1:38:52
  Simmons pops up. I'm like, why does he keep
• 1:38:53
  popping up? So I need to go in.
• 1:38:55
  So I need to go into Wade Simmons to get those shorts of
• 1:38:57
  those other two episodes. No, I moved them into their own.
• 1:39:00
  OK, I fixed it a long time. Ago, good job.
• 1:39:03
  I'm the behind the scenes guys, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:39:06
  He's beside me, he's Hey, so again the.
• 1:39:09
  Support knows who I am. He does, absolutely.
• 1:39:13
  So this is the Chris and Mike show.
• 1:39:14
  Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, drop a review, give us a follow
• 1:39:17
  on all platforms. We always wrap up the shows like
• 1:39:20
  this. Don't let the bad days win.
• 1:39:23
  Somebody Loves You, somebody needs you.
• 1:39:24
  Somebody will miss you tomorrow if you're not there to answer
• 1:39:27
  your phone or text or open that door with your smiling face.
• 1:39:30
  That's right, that's right. So there you go.
• 1:39:34
  Anything else you want to add? That's it, that's it.
• 1:39:38
  That's good. Good, good show, good show.
• 1:39:40
  And you know, to our guest that wasn't here, sorry, you know,
• 1:39:43
  I'll reach backed out to you maybe in August, see if there's
• 1:39:45
  a spot for you, you know, because again, thanks, you know,
• 1:39:50
  you know, they do happen, but be be respectful of other people's
• 1:39:53
  times and challenges because I could have had somebody else in
• 1:39:56
  the spot agreed, you know, but it is always nice.
• 1:39:59
  I think I'm going to reserve at least one Tuesday every month
• 1:40:01
  just for you and I because I like just talking to you.
• 1:40:03
  Do whatever you need to do. I like talking to you too, you
• 1:40:05
  know that. That's why we started.
• 1:40:08
  It is. It is absolutely, But it's fun.
• 1:40:10
  Learning about other people, I think you're seeing that side of
• 1:40:13
  it too, right? Yes, we've learned every,
• 1:40:15
  everybody we've had on it, they've taught us something and
• 1:40:18
  we've taken something away. And we and they.
• 1:40:20
  For the people that wonder why I gravitated towards Rogan, that's
• 1:40:24
  why, because what his podcast became was just that I learned
• 1:40:28
  so much from like Graham Hancock and Mike Baker, who was a former
• 1:40:33
  CIA agent and you know, all these MMA fighters who have done
• 1:40:37
  great things other than MMA. Like just like I told Alicia
• 1:40:41
  with Justin Ran, he went over to the Congo and you know, these
• 1:40:44
  people did great things. And I just, I love hearing those
• 1:40:47
  stories. It's like reading a book without
• 1:40:49
  having to read, right? Right, right.
• 1:40:51
  You just sit there and listen to them as orbit, which is fun.
• 1:40:53
  I love it. So thank you for doing this with
• 1:40:55
  me. I've meant to say that for a
• 1:40:57
  long time. I love you brother.
• 1:40:58
  This has been. Thank you for thank you for
• 1:41:01
  having me, Mike. Thank you for having me.
• 1:41:04
  It's it's a, it's a mutual acceptance.
• 1:41:07
  It is. Absolutely love you too, man.
• 1:41:09
  Love you everybody. We'll see you next time.
• 1:41:11
  Absolutely, thanks for listening.
• 1:41:13
  See you peace. Peace.
• 1:41:40
  You will go behind your eyes. Take your moment.
• 1:41:50
  Look until your tear. Fight your battle until your
• 1:41:54
  bust wheel, fight your battle. Hold your baby till your tear.
• 1:43:11
  Come down here, we haven't found
• 1:43:26
  salty and sand from fighting. Wait for the dead.
• 1:43:32
  Wait exposure out here for the wind.
• 1:43:36
  You ain't no creature. We're playing Smound.
• 1:43:42
  You quit on the almighty man. You got a dream.
• 1:43:48
  Who in your life to keep up? So in every man, take the trip
• 1:43:57
  behind your eyes. Feel the soul revolution now.
• 1:44:01
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:44:45
  You gotta. You gotta.
• 1:44:48
  You gotta. You gotta.