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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
- 0:05Speaker 1: six forty.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Six forty Bill Handle here. Yes, it is a Friday morning,
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- 0:45Speaker 2: So I'll be doing that at eight fifty. Last segment
- 0:48Speaker 2: on a Friday. Okay, ongoing the case between California and
- 0:56Speaker 2: the Trump administration, and we're going to be talking about
- 1:00Speaker 2: that big time. Well, here is a new one that
- 1:04Speaker 2: just came down the House passed. Oh do I get
- 1:08Speaker 2: the wrong one here? Yeah, yeah, we'll do that later on.
- 1:11Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This has to do with what happened yesterday
- 1:15Speaker 2: in terms of the healthcare subsidies. As you know Obamacare,
- 1:20Speaker 2: it allows for extended tax credits.
- 1:23Speaker 1: This is what Biden put into place as.
- 1:25Speaker 2: A result of the pandemic helping people who heretofore didn't
- 1:30Speaker 2: have medical insurance all of a sudden have medical insurance,
- 1:34Speaker 2: like twenty million people. Well, it's sunseted January first or
- 1:38Speaker 2: December thirty one. Done, and there has been a fight
- 1:42Speaker 2: like crazy to extend that. Now, keep in mind, the
- 1:45Speaker 2: Republicans have fought Obamacare and every aspect of Obamacare since the.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Day it was passed.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Bill after bill, I think there's sixty or seventy bills
- 1:55Speaker 2: were introduced to kill Obamacare, and of course the Republicans
- 1:59Speaker 2: kept on saying, it's terrible, horrible, it's horrible, it's terrible.
- 2:01Speaker 2: And then the question is, well, do you have to
- 2:03Speaker 2: anything to replace it? No, but as terrible, as horrible,
- 2:05Speaker 2: as god awful.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Okay.
- 2:07Speaker 2: So with that in mind, now came the issue of
- 2:12Speaker 2: the end of the subsidies allowing twenty some oni million
- 2:15Speaker 2: people to have insurance or could afford insurance under Obamacare
- 2:21Speaker 2: because of the subsidies, and the Republicans said, nope, absolutely not,
- 2:25Speaker 2: and so something and there was no way it was
- 2:28Speaker 2: going to be coming to the floor. There was no
- 2:29Speaker 2: way a vote was going to be put on the
- 2:31Speaker 2: floor because it's a Republican speaker Mike Johnson, who controls that.
- 2:36Speaker 1: He's the one that controls what vote takes place.
- 2:39Speaker 2: Unless something called a discharge petition is voted into place,
- 2:44Speaker 2: which unlocks debate bypasses the speaker and goes on to
- 2:49Speaker 2: the floor for a vote. Well, that discharge petition was
- 2:54Speaker 2: voted on, and it won just by a few I
- 2:57Speaker 2: think there were five Republicans that jumped to the other side,
- 3:00Speaker 2: and Trump immediately went nuts and said, they're not going
- 3:03Speaker 2: to be in the set in the House anymore.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that they're primaried out.
- 3:07Speaker 2: I mean, you don't go against the president, which is
- 3:09Speaker 2: why so many Republicans are scared to.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Death to say anything against the president.
- 3:15Speaker 2: So what ended up happening It is it's passed two
- 3:22Speaker 2: hundred and thirty to one ninety six to extend those
- 3:24Speaker 2: affordable care subsidies for three years. Seventeen Republicans jumped, defied
- 3:32Speaker 2: leadership and joined the Democrats on this one. This is
- 3:36Speaker 2: what the Democrats did. I have to have a funding bill,
- 3:39Speaker 2: and we didn't have it. We had the biggest stoppage,
- 3:42Speaker 2: the longest stoppage in the history United States in terms
- 3:44Speaker 2: of the government shutting down.
- 3:45Speaker 1: It was over this issue.
- 3:47Speaker 2: It was over the subsidies under Obamacare. Thirty eight days
- 3:54Speaker 2: and what the what Congress wanted to do with the
- 3:57Speaker 2: Democrats say, let's extend this thing for three years while
- 4:00Speaker 2: we work out what's going on. Well, in the end,
- 4:03Speaker 2: what happened. The Democrats caved, Donald Trump won, and the
- 4:08Speaker 2: extension did happen. But the extension only happened till the
- 4:12Speaker 2: end of January. And in the middle of all that,
- 4:15Speaker 2: the promise was made to the Democrats that we will
- 4:18Speaker 2: talk about extending. Well they weren't talking about extending. That
- 4:25Speaker 2: just was a non starter. Why because well, everybody lies
- 4:29Speaker 2: to everybody, and so whoever promises one thing, it just
- 4:33Speaker 2: doesn't happen. And welcome to Congress, and so fine. So
- 4:38Speaker 2: now this thing ends December thirty one, the extended subsidies,
- 4:42Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, twenty million people are looking
- 4:46Speaker 2: at not having medical insurance under Obamacare. Now you may
- 4:51Speaker 2: think it's horrible, and a lot of people do. And
- 4:53Speaker 2: there are a lot of holes to be plugged, and
- 4:55Speaker 2: I don't disagree. There are a lot of problems with it,
- 4:58Speaker 2: but it's insurance versus not having Obamacare, where it's zero
- 5:02Speaker 2: insurance without these subsidies, and that's over twenty million people
- 5:08Speaker 2: that are affected. So the Democrats are saying, we need
- 5:11Speaker 2: those three years. The Republicans under Johnson say no, we're
- 5:15Speaker 2: not going to give.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Them to you.
- 5:16Speaker 2: So the discharge petition is voted on with five Republicans
- 5:21Speaker 2: jumping ship, and the House passed the bill to extend
- 5:25Speaker 2: by two thirty to one ninety six, with seventeen Republicans
- 5:30Speaker 2: jumping over to the under side to join the Democrats.
- 5:34Speaker 2: And it all has to do with affordability. The President
- 5:38Speaker 2: has a real interesting issue here because Congress has passed
- 5:42Speaker 2: the bill. The Senate it has failed even though this
- 5:47Speaker 2: bill has been introduced in the Senate. But they are
- 5:49Speaker 2: now senators and congress people who are sitting down and
- 5:53Speaker 2: trying to come up with some reconciliation. Both the House
- 5:56Speaker 2: and the Senate have to pass the same bill before
- 5:58Speaker 2: it goes forward for signature by the President, and they're
- 6:01Speaker 2: now trying to come to some reconciliation. And that's usually
- 6:05Speaker 2: what happens. You have a House bill, you have a
- 6:08Speaker 2: Senate bill. The Senate puts three four or five people
- 6:12Speaker 2: into a room, the Democrats. The House puts three four
- 6:16Speaker 2: or five people into a room on both sides of
- 6:18Speaker 2: the aisle, and everybody sits down, thrashes out a bill,
- 6:22Speaker 2: compromises here, pushes there, and finally a bill is put
- 6:25Speaker 2: through and the president signs it. Well, that's happening right
- 6:29Speaker 2: now before the Senate votes, and then it goes to
- 6:34Speaker 2: the president. Assuming that the bill goes through, don't know,
- 6:38Speaker 2: it's up in the air as far as the Senate
- 6:40Speaker 2: is concerned.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Now what does the president do? I think he's going
- 6:43Speaker 1: to veto it.
- 6:44Speaker 2: And there's three things that the president can do is
- 6:47Speaker 2: sign it, veto it, or just let it sit there
- 6:51Speaker 2: for ten days and do nothing and it becomes law.
- 6:54Speaker 2: And that's the easiest way because it quietly becomes law.
- 6:59Speaker 2: The president is involved. There are no press conferences, there
- 7:03Speaker 2: are no table set up where his signature is put
- 7:06Speaker 2: on a piece of paper, a directive with everybody behind
- 7:10Speaker 2: the president, those people that are in favor of the
- 7:12Speaker 2: bill being signed, and then the president hands out the pens.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I've often went hands out like thirty pins. I've often wondered,
- 7:19Speaker 2: how do you sign something with thirty pens? I don't
- 7:24Speaker 2: get that, but that's what normally happens. You'll see one
- 7:26Speaker 2: of the most infamous ones, or one of the most
- 7:29Speaker 2: famous ones, is President Johnson handing the pen to Martin
- 7:34Speaker 2: Luther King when the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights Act
- 7:38Speaker 2: was passed, And there's an iconic photo of the President
- 7:43Speaker 2: handing Martin Luther King that pen. So we're seeing what's
- 7:46Speaker 2: going to happen. But this is very rare. What does
- 7:48Speaker 2: this mean? That means they're cracks starting to happen, that
- 7:53Speaker 2: there are now a few Republicans who are who are
- 7:56Speaker 2: who are vulnerable. Okay, let's just say they're those who
- 8:00Speaker 2: have to resign. There's no issue, they don't care. But
- 8:04Speaker 2: there are a few Republicans who are in district swing
- 8:07Speaker 2: districts that are vulnerable can be voted out. And all
- 8:10Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, backing up the President when
- 8:13Speaker 2: he says affordability is a hoax, is a Democrat hoax,
- 8:18Speaker 2: And all of a sudden you have a Republican congress
- 8:20Speaker 2: person nods his head and goes, that's right, that's right,
- 8:23Speaker 2: it's a hoax. It's a hoax. The President says it's
- 8:25Speaker 2: a hoax, therefore it's a hoax. Well, you're telling that
- 8:28Speaker 2: to people who constituents w or have a hard time
- 8:32Speaker 2: making the rent, whor have a hard time buying groceries,
- 8:37Speaker 2: who have to decide do we buy medicine or do
- 8:40Speaker 2: we buy groceries. And you have a Republican in this case,
- 8:44Speaker 2: Republican congress person parroting it's a hoax.
- 8:48Speaker 1: It's a hoax. Well it's not. And the president is
- 8:53Speaker 1: moving away from that by the way.
- 8:54Speaker 2: He has gone from it's a Democrat hoax to now
- 8:56Speaker 2: he is the affordability president.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Eh, we'll see what happens. Anyways, that's what happened yesterday.
- 9:01Speaker 1: I wanted to share that with you.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I got that one wrong, but let me
- 9:07Speaker 2: tell you one that I think I'm going to get
- 9:09Speaker 2: right or at least explain what's going on. And this
- 9:12Speaker 2: has to do with the Ice shooting of that thirty
- 9:17Speaker 2: seven year old woman. It happened a couple of days ago.
- 9:21Speaker 2: So whenever there is an officer involved shooting, particularly when
- 9:24Speaker 2: there is a death involved, particularly there is an investigation.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Of course, the police investigation happens. So this was a
- 9:33Speaker 2: federal officer, an ice agent, who shot this woman. And
- 9:40Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into the particulars as to
- 9:43Speaker 2: was the agent was it justified shooting.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Was he in fact in.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Danger of being run over and therefore it was self defense.
- 9:57Speaker 2: I mean, we've gone through that. You probably have seen
- 9:59Speaker 2: the video, and there is a slight argument that it
- 10:03Speaker 2: was self defense. Not much of one in my opinion,
- 10:06Speaker 2: because as you know, Good turned right there, she is
- 10:10Speaker 2: in her SUV. The police officers, the ICE agents go
- 10:14Speaker 2: up to her as they're talking to her in hand
- 10:17Speaker 2: on the door. Right, the Asian has a hand on
- 10:20Speaker 2: the door. She is backing up and appears to be
- 10:23Speaker 2: turning away from the agent who was on her left
- 10:27Speaker 2: side fender area, and then the agent shot a few
- 10:32Speaker 2: times and killed her, shot her in the head. So
- 10:34Speaker 2: that issue, whether or not that was justified or not,
- 10:37Speaker 2: is one aspect of this case.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Another one is the jurisdiction.
- 10:42Speaker 2: You heard Vance say yesterday that the ICE agent has
- 10:47Speaker 2: total immunity, can't even be tried by the state of Minnesota.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Now, originally it was announced that it.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Was going to be a joint investigation by the state,
- 11:02Speaker 2: the BCA of the State of Minnesota, that's their investigative arm,
- 11:08Speaker 2: the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension with the FBI well
- 11:12Speaker 2: and the government.
- 11:13Speaker 1: US government said yeah, that's what's going to happen.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Well, the FBI soon reversed course and almost immediately now
- 11:21Speaker 2: the state's not getting involved. This is simply an FBI issue.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Will do our own investigating? What investigation? Because Christinome within
- 11:30Speaker 2: minutes after the shooting was announced, straight out and maybe
- 11:35Speaker 2: even before she saw the video, for all I know,
- 11:37Speaker 2: said this was self defense, this was a justified shooting.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Conversation over Vance said the same thing.
- 11:44Speaker 2: The President posts that it was defensible, and so the
- 11:49Speaker 2: government has already made his decision. There is no investigation.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Now the FBI is still there. But you tell me
- 11:56Speaker 2: what kind of investigation? What kind of conclusion the FBI
- 11:59Speaker 2: is going to have after the Department of Homeland Security,
- 12:02Speaker 2: of which the FBI is under, the president and the
- 12:04Speaker 2: Vice president all saying this was a justifiable shooting, what
- 12:07Speaker 2: do you think the conclusions are going to be? So
- 12:10Speaker 2: with that, where is the investigation? Where is the jurisdiction?
- 12:17Speaker 2: Because it was a federal agent, does the State of
- 12:21Speaker 2: Minnesota have the right to investigate and try and adjudicate
- 12:29Speaker 2: adjudicate the issue of whether the agent was this was
- 12:33Speaker 2: self defense or not. And it gets a little complicated
- 12:36Speaker 2: because it's not that easy.
- 12:38Speaker 1: What ends up happening on Renee.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Nicole Macklin Good was shot killed by the ice officer.
- 12:45Speaker 2: The analysis by The New York Times of the videos
- 12:48Speaker 2: found that the footage contradicted what the Trump administration's account
- 12:52Speaker 2: was of the shooting defense versus not defense move.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Okay, so here's what happens.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Van says, you have federal law enforcement official engaging in
- 13:04Speaker 2: a federal law enforcement action that's a federal issue. The
- 13:09Speaker 2: police officer, the I Sation is protected by absolute immunity.
- 13:13Speaker 1: He is doing his job.
- 13:14Speaker 2: And the idea that Tim Wilson a bunch of radicals
- 13:17Speaker 2: in Minneapolis is always radicals, the left wing radical wackos.
- 13:22Speaker 2: The fact that Waltz and a bunch of radicals are
- 13:25Speaker 2: going to go after this guy and make his life
- 13:27Speaker 2: miserable is preposterous. And Walts Democratic governor, demanded that the
- 13:34Speaker 2: state investigators be allowed to participate in the investigation.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Is a joint investigation? Why?
- 13:39Speaker 2: Because, yeah, it's a federal officer. But the shooting occurred
- 13:42Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. And the issue is does the federal law
- 13:48Speaker 2: does the investigation by federal authorities supersed anything the state
- 13:52Speaker 2: is doing. Usually under these circumstances as a joint investigation
- 13:56Speaker 2: and federal officers can be charged because a crime was
- 14:01Speaker 2: committed or a crime is presumed to have been committed
- 14:06Speaker 2: on Minnesota Minnesota soil. And quite often you know that
- 14:11Speaker 2: there are cases that are brought up that either the
- 14:15Speaker 2: state or the Feds can charge, and usually one or
- 14:18Speaker 2: the other agrees. Now, there as certain cases that can
- 14:20Speaker 2: only be charged federally, and that is a crime committed
- 14:24Speaker 2: on federal land parks for example, federal parks, well, the
- 14:27Speaker 2: state has absolutely no jurisdiction there.
- 14:30Speaker 1: But this was not in a federal park. This was
- 14:32Speaker 1: just the public street. And so what happens.
- 14:38Speaker 2: What's going to happen, My guess is the Feds are
- 14:41Speaker 2: going to prevail on this one because under the Supremacy
- 14:47Speaker 2: Clause of the United States, federal law supersedes state law. However,
- 14:53Speaker 2: this is a jurisdictional issue, and it's going to take
- 14:56Speaker 2: a judge to determine whether it is whether Minnesota should
- 15:01Speaker 2: engage in this or can even try the ice agent.
- 15:06Speaker 2: We don't know, but it's going to take a federal
- 15:08Speaker 2: judge to make that decision. And up to this point,
- 15:12Speaker 2: federal judges usually go on behalf of the Feds. By
- 15:17Speaker 2: the way, when I say a federal judge, federal judge
- 15:19Speaker 2: is not under the auspices of the federal government.
- 15:21Speaker 1: That's an independent agency.
- 15:23Speaker 2: We're talking about the court system, the judiciary, which is
- 15:27Speaker 2: separate than the executive, which is separate than the legislative.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Although of these days it's kind of all mixed up,
- 15:32Speaker 1: isn't it. As we know, so what are we going
- 15:35Speaker 1: to see. You're going to see a fight.
- 15:36Speaker 2: You're going to see a fight where the state is
- 15:40Speaker 2: determining and saying, hey, listen, we have jurisdiction here. We
- 15:44Speaker 2: should have the ability to investigate. The Feds are saying no,
- 15:47Speaker 2: you don't. By the way, as a practical course, the
- 15:49Speaker 2: Feds have shut out the state.
- 15:51Speaker 1: They will not produce.
- 15:52Speaker 2: The FBI came in almost immediately and gathered evidence, talk
- 15:56Speaker 2: to witnesses, and will not share any of that with
- 15:59Speaker 2: the state Minnesota. And so the head of the BCA,
- 16:03Speaker 2: the investigative arm of Minnesota, the Minnesota Bureau of the
- 16:08Speaker 2: Criminal Apprehension, has said we're done. We have no information,
- 16:14Speaker 2: we have no evidence, we have no witness statements. That's
- 16:17Speaker 2: all been done by the FBI and the GRAB it
- 16:18Speaker 2: all and will not turn it over. So as a
- 16:20Speaker 2: practical measure, is there going to be a Minnesota state investigation? No?
- 16:27Speaker 2: Not really, why because you know, at this point the
- 16:32Speaker 2: Feds just don't pay attention. You know, we've got a
- 16:35Speaker 2: situation with a federal government that believes it is far
- 16:39Speaker 2: reaching to the point where it overrides anything Congress says,
- 16:42Speaker 2: overrides anything the judiciary says.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Welcome to America. All right.
- 16:46Speaker 2: The jobs report just came out this morning at five
- 16:48Speaker 2: point thirty on at our time, and this is really
- 16:53Speaker 2: important stuff when the federal jobs report comes out because
- 16:56Speaker 2: so much of the economy is predicated on that report,
- 17:00Speaker 2: and so this gets it was okay, real quickly, fifty
- 17:04Speaker 2: thousand jobs radded in December.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Oh, it's not bad. That's a solid gain for the economy,
- 17:10Speaker 1: but also it ends.
- 17:11Speaker 2: The worst year for the labor market since the pandemic recession.
- 17:16Speaker 2: These numbers are astoundingly wonky how this comes out, and
- 17:22Speaker 2: politics are all through this thing too. So what ends
- 17:24Speaker 2: up happening is they're looking at October and there was
- 17:28Speaker 2: an initial announcement the Fed, the Bureau of Labor Statistics
- 17:33Speaker 2: comes out and gives you a number and then a
- 17:35Speaker 2: month later, two months later, they start revising it as
- 17:38Speaker 2: more numbers come in, and the revisions can be pretty dramatic. Now,
- 17:43Speaker 2: when the numbers are higher than expected, oh boy, the administration,
- 17:49Speaker 2: any administration, by the way, takes credit for it.
- 17:52Speaker 1: And when the numbers are revised lower.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Because there's more information, well, in the case of Donald Trump,
- 17:58Speaker 2: he's firing everybody in the Labor Statistics says no, we
- 18:00Speaker 2: need better numbers. And it's a Department of Labor Statistics
- 18:05Speaker 2: is an independent or a quasi independent department, which that's
- 18:09Speaker 2: going to disappear very quickly. So the job creation for
- 18:13Speaker 2: October was revised weaker, showing the economy actually lost one
- 18:17Speaker 2: hundred and seventy three thousand jobs that month.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Federal workers took a deferred resignation package, and November job
- 18:27Speaker 2: creation was revised down slightly. So the economists had estimated
- 18:32Speaker 2: that the employers added seventy three thousand jobs in December.
- 18:37Speaker 2: And so this gets really complicated. I'm going to try
- 18:40Speaker 2: to unwank it a little bit because there are so
- 18:43Speaker 2: many factors to this job market. Unemployment rates are all
- 18:48Speaker 2: over the place because there's U two and U three.
- 18:52Speaker 2: For example, people looking for work, people who have dropped
- 18:54Speaker 2: out of the market, who no longer count For example,
- 18:57Speaker 2: if you've been unemployed for a year and you go
- 18:59Speaker 2: I'm done, I'm not I'm going to go back to school,
- 19:01Speaker 2: you're not even counted as unemployed because you've dropped out
- 19:05Speaker 2: of the job market. According to some labor statistics, others
- 19:10Speaker 2: are different. So, for example, here we go in twenty
- 19:15Speaker 2: twenty five, the labor market was better than expected even
- 19:19Speaker 2: under Trump administration policies. Tariff and immigration enforcement policies still
- 19:25Speaker 2: going through the economy, but layoffs, which is another statistic,
- 19:29Speaker 2: are now contained, layoffs hitting a seventeen month low in December,
- 19:36Speaker 2: much better than expected. However, it's a lot more difficult
- 19:41Speaker 2: to get a job now. Corporate America is looking to
- 19:45Speaker 2: an extended hiring pause.
- 19:47Speaker 1: And why is that.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Well, AI is stopping Corporate America from hiring people.
- 19:55Speaker 1: It is much harder to.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Get a job, particularly in those sectors in which AI
- 20:02Speaker 2: really is booming, legal sector, the computer sector. Certainly, entry
- 20:08Speaker 2: level computer folks just don't get a job. Also, the
- 20:13Speaker 2: Alliance Trade America's economists, and that's one of the big ones,
- 20:17Speaker 2: said a lot of job openings are ghost openings, which
- 20:21Speaker 2: means that they're posted, but they're really not meant to
- 20:25Speaker 2: be filled unless an awesome candidate comes along. They're just
- 20:29Speaker 2: up there looking for that perfect banner woman who has
- 20:33Speaker 2: extraordinary skills.
- 20:34Speaker 1: This is about a real job opening.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Now, fifty thousand job opening, fifty thousand jobs have actually
- 20:41Speaker 2: been increased, have actually now been added to the economy.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Some economists say that it's possible that fifty thousand jobs
- 20:51Speaker 2: a month is enough to maintain a healthy labor market.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Others say no, but why.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Net immigration plummeted in twenty twenty five, So if you
- 21:01Speaker 2: have fewer people, you really need fewer jobs, and so
- 21:06Speaker 2: fifty thousand jobs a month seems to be okay. However,
- 21:11Speaker 2: corporations are not hiring for the most part. Even though
- 21:15Speaker 2: the December numbers seem to be pretty good, they're less
- 21:18Speaker 2: than what was expected, which means that the economy is
- 21:24Speaker 2: going south, except that it means that it's still healthy
- 21:28Speaker 2: because we need fewer jobs out there.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Am I making that clear? That's how crazy this is.
- 21:38Speaker 2: And to look at labor statistics, which are critically important
- 21:43Speaker 2: in terms of the way our economy is based. The
- 21:47Speaker 2: Fed looks at labor statistics when dealing.
- 21:50Speaker 1: With interest rates.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Corporations look at labor statistics in terms of trying to
- 21:56Speaker 2: figure out what's going to happen in the future. And
- 21:59Speaker 2: you've got recession issues from the pandemic, you've got AI issues,
- 22:04Speaker 2: you've got immigration issues.
- 22:07Speaker 1: It's how about jobs under the table?
- 22:09Speaker 2: Where economy is based on the agriculture industry, what's happening
- 22:14Speaker 2: now because there are no illegal migrants coming in, which
- 22:18Speaker 2: is great unless you happen to be unless you own
- 22:21Speaker 2: a farm, unless you're in the construction industry, where so
- 22:25Speaker 2: many illegal migrants work and they create a big part
- 22:28Speaker 2: of the economy. So what's the bottom line here? You
- 22:34Speaker 2: don't know what the hell's going on. And more importantly,
- 22:38Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell's going on. But my
- 22:41Speaker 2: job is to try to explain to you something that
- 22:43Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell's going on. And even
- 22:45Speaker 2: if I did explain it to you appropriately, you still
- 22:48Speaker 2: wouldn't know what the hell's going on.
- 22:50Speaker 1: This is a handle topic. This is what we do
- 22:54Speaker 1: every single day.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Okay, Now I talk about this lot, the ongoing fight
- 23:02Speaker 2: between the Trump administration and California, and you've got left
- 23:08Speaker 2: wing wackos, you know, the radical left versus the crazy right,
- 23:15Speaker 2: the folks that don't believe in the constitution read the
- 23:18Speaker 2: Trump administration.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Those are the fights going back and forth.
- 23:20Speaker 2: It is as polarized as you can humanly get one
- 23:25Speaker 2: thing about the president. And he has said this, and
- 23:27Speaker 2: we elected him based on this. You say no to me,
- 23:30Speaker 2: I hit you back, or you fight me. You hit
- 23:33Speaker 2: me once, I hit you back twice.
- 23:35Speaker 1: He is not adverse to having a fight.
- 23:38Speaker 2: He is conservative, actually is more of a populist, but
- 23:41Speaker 2: he certainly aligns himself with the super conservative movement read Maga.
- 23:46Speaker 2: On the other side, is a super liberal movement read California.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Well, there's the fight now.
- 23:53Speaker 2: The problem is that when you're dealing with those kinds
- 23:56Speaker 2: of fights between the Feds and the states, Feds have
- 23:59Speaker 2: a lot of power because a lot of federal dollars
- 24:01Speaker 2: go into the programs that the states have.
- 24:04Speaker 1: So California just sue the Trump administration. Why is that?
- 24:09Speaker 2: Well, the Trump administration has frozen ten billion dollars in
- 24:14Speaker 2: childcare and family assistant not.
- 24:18Speaker 1: To ten billion dollars.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Now, this is no small amount of change, and the
- 24:23Speaker 2: lawsuit said that the freeze is based on unsupported allegations
- 24:27Speaker 2: of fraud and violates Congress's spending power. That's another fight
- 24:32Speaker 2: that the president is having with Congress. The President says,
- 24:35Speaker 2: I have the power, you don't, Congress.
- 24:38Speaker 1: But Congress says, well, here it is in the constitution.
- 24:41Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I have the power.
- 24:43Speaker 2: And of course there are so many Republicans in Congress
- 24:45Speaker 2: they have to agree with the president. Why is that
- 24:49Speaker 2: Because he has the power to primary them out. He
- 24:53Speaker 2: literally can go into a district and say I support
- 24:58Speaker 2: the opponent of the the city in Congress person, and
- 25:02Speaker 2: in the primary, the city in Congress person is gone.
- 25:05Speaker 2: The president has that kind of power politically speaking, and
- 25:10Speaker 2: is taking that kind of power judicially speaking or in
- 25:15Speaker 2: terms of administratively speaking by saying, unilaterally, without Congress, we're
- 25:22Speaker 2: freezing ten billion dollars in childcare and family assistance based
- 25:26Speaker 2: on fraud, widespread fraud, and here is and he's done
- 25:32Speaker 2: this to other states. And of course the argument this
- 25:36Speaker 2: is political, No, it's not, it's all about fraud. Well,
- 25:41Speaker 2: why is it that only the Democratic cities and the
- 25:44Speaker 2: Democrat states are getting nailed? Well, because you're the fraudulent ones. Well,
- 25:51Speaker 2: does that mean that there is no fraud in Republican states,
- 25:55Speaker 2: there is no fraud in Republican cities. Why aren't you
- 26:01Speaker 2: investigating fraud? For example, Letitia James, who is the DA
- 26:08Speaker 2: in Manhattan, is being tried and investigated for fraud because
- 26:15Speaker 2: she signed a document saying that she lived in one
- 26:20Speaker 2: place versus living in another place. She claims that there's
- 26:23Speaker 2: no fraud involved, and that's another issue, but the Trump
- 26:27Speaker 2: administration is going balls to the wall doing everything it
- 26:30Speaker 2: can to put her in prison for this. In the meantime,
- 26:34Speaker 2: you have well fifteen sixteen hundred, sixteen hundred insurgents who
- 26:41Speaker 2: overran the capital arguing to undo the government. We have
- 26:46Speaker 2: to take over the government. They all got pardoned. There
- 26:51Speaker 2: are billionaires, multi billionaires who have screwed people out of
- 26:55Speaker 2: literally hundreds of millions of dollars pardoned. Why Because it's
- 27:01Speaker 2: one side believes in what the president says.
- 27:03Speaker 1: On the other side is on the other side on
- 27:06Speaker 1: the other side.
- 27:08Speaker 2: So the argument of polarization and the politicizing of this,
- 27:14Speaker 2: to me, it's obvious, and to you it has to
- 27:16Speaker 2: be obvious. I mean, do you really believe let me
- 27:19Speaker 2: ask you a question. Okay, even if you are a
- 27:22Speaker 2: Trump supporter, okay, And by the way, I have no
- 27:25Speaker 2: problem with people being Trump supporters, you know, Conservatives, liberals, Democrats,
- 27:31Speaker 2: or Republicans. To me, it's all the same. I have
- 27:35Speaker 2: voted both ways, I have supported both sides. But my
- 27:39Speaker 2: question is, do you really believe that fraud only takes
- 27:43Speaker 2: place in democratically led cities and states, that no fraud
- 27:51Speaker 2: exists in the Republican states jurisdictions none, and criminal activity,
- 27:59Speaker 2: strangely enough, only goes against in terms of this level,
- 28:04Speaker 2: against those that oppose Donald Trump. For example, Mark Kelly,
- 28:11Speaker 2: Senator from Arizona, was one of those five senators who
- 28:18Speaker 2: did that videotape saying to the arm services you do.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Not follow illegal acts.
- 28:24Speaker 2: Has to do with the allegation that the president is
- 28:28Speaker 2: acting unconstitutionally. Well, Pete Hegseth is now bringing Mark Kelly
- 28:34Speaker 2: up and is going to demote him because he is
- 28:38Speaker 2: allowed to do that because Mark Kelly is still in
- 28:40Speaker 2: the reserves, which means he is still under the jurisdiction
- 28:43Speaker 2: of the Defense Department, and Pete Headseth is bringing up
- 28:47Speaker 2: to demote him and cut his retirement. And let me
- 28:53Speaker 2: tell you the defense that Mark Kelly has it's in
- 28:58Speaker 2: the rules, it's in the code of the Military justice system.
- 29:05Speaker 2: You can't follow an illegal act or an illegal order. Well,
- 29:09Speaker 2: heg Seth said that sedition, that's being a traitor. And
- 29:13Speaker 2: does he have the right to Does heag Seth have
- 29:17Speaker 2: a right to demote Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, Well, yeah,
- 29:27Speaker 2: he has the right. Does it mean anything because the
- 29:29Speaker 2: guy's been out of the army the Armed services for years.
- 29:34Speaker 2: He does have the right, But it has to do
- 29:35Speaker 2: with his retirement, his pension. That is where the issue
- 29:40Speaker 2: is here. And heg Seth can really screw Mark Kelly
- 29:43Speaker 2: and is going to go forward. Now they'll be, of course,
- 29:45Speaker 2: an appeal and is going to go up and will
- 29:48Speaker 2: a court martial effectively be instituted And we'll see which
- 29:52Speaker 2: way that goes. But it's this is ten billion dollars, right,
- 29:57Speaker 2: this is just the start. By the way, We've got
- 30:00Speaker 2: more and more and more of these coming in. It's just, uh,
- 30:03Speaker 2: you know, it's it's really tough. It really is tough.
- 30:05Speaker 2: And I hate this level of politics where it's not
- 30:10Speaker 2: only a question of polarization, but it's just it's just cruel.
- 30:15Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it is. It's just cruel. I mean,
- 30:18Speaker 2: you can argue all you want. These are kids that
- 30:21Speaker 2: are eating. That's what this is about, you know, supporting
- 30:26Speaker 2: food banks. I mean, that's what this stuff is about.
- 30:29Speaker 2: I mean, come on, at some point, is there some point?
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