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Steve Price | 13 December · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live.
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  Speaker 2: This is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 1: Good evening. See Price with you for our Friday night
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  Speaker 1: get together. I'll be taking a break after tonight, but
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  Speaker 1: please to let you know I'll be back in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, early January, what is already shaping up as
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  Speaker 1: one of the biggest news years in recent history. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to have the local federal election, of course, and
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  Speaker 1: in late January, Donald Trump takes over again as US President.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up tonight, speaking of elections, the starter's gun went
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  Speaker 1: off today with the Coalition briefing the nation on their
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  Speaker 1: plan to use nuclear energy as part of the energy
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  Speaker 1: menu going forward. Reaction and detail coming up tonight on
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  Speaker 1: the program, and as more shocking video emerges from the
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  Speaker 1: Adas Israel Synagogue in Melbourne, authorities don't seem any closer
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  Speaker 1: to arresting the terrorists and Australia's Jewish community is still shocked.
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  Speaker 1: One week later, Alex Richman will join us on the
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  Speaker 1: program as well. Plus, given it to our last year
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  Speaker 1: of the year, our regular star cartoonist and herold Son
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  Speaker 1: illustrator Mark Knight will reveal his cartoons of twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. And you may have seen
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  Speaker 1: in some breaking news in Victorian politics. It seems there
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  Speaker 1: could now be a challenge to the leadership the Liberal
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  Speaker 1: Party leadership of John Pursuto, with one of his front
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  Speaker 1: bench colleagues, former tennis champ Sam Groth, quitting that position
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  Speaker 1: late today saying he can no longer in quote good conscience,
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  Speaker 1: serve his leader. The Shadow Police spokesman Brad Batten will
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  Speaker 1: be up on the program shortly well. Australians now have
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  Speaker 1: a very clear choice when we go to the polls
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Do we want to access and
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  Speaker 1: use all of the mineral wealth we have at our
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  Speaker 1: disposal in Australia, or do we want to please the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the world and become the canary in the
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  Speaker 1: coal mine forgive the awful pun an attempt to become
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  Speaker 1: the only nation on earth to run a major manufacturing
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  Speaker 1: economy on sun and wind. As of mid morning today,
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  Speaker 1: that is the choice voters now have to make. Opposition
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  Speaker 1: leader Peter Dutton is taking the biggest electoral risk in history,
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  Speaker 1: even out doing I believe John Howard taking a gst
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  Speaker 1: to the voters in an election with his ambitious, expensive
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  Speaker 1: national building promise to run the country on a combination
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  Speaker 1: of nuclear energy and renewables with some solar and gases backup.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Peter Dutton outlining the independent analysis done for his
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  Speaker 1: ambition's nuclear plans earlier today.
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  Speaker 3: This is a plan which will underpin the economic success
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  Speaker 3: of our country for the next century. This will make
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  Speaker 3: electricity reliable, it'll make it more consistent, it'll make it
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  Speaker 3: cheaper for Australians and it will help us decarbonize as
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  Speaker 3: a trading economy. As we must. We have independent costings
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  Speaker 3: which provide that validation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, as you'd expect, reaction was pretty ami idiot, where
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  Speaker 1: the usual suspects disagreeing the Greens leader Adam Bandt and
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  Speaker 1: Labour's reaction from Chris.
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  Speaker 4: Bowen today Peter Dutton has delivered a Christmas con job.
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  Speaker 4: Peter Dutton wants you to believe that he can introduce
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  Speaker 4: the most expensive form of energy and somehow that will
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  Speaker 4: reduce power prices.
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  Speaker 5: Peter Dunton's nuclear delusion is a dangerous conjob. It's a
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  Speaker 5: cover up for more coal and it's a threat to
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  Speaker 5: people's safety.
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  Speaker 1: Very interesting that it was not the Prime Minister himself,
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi, you came out reacting today, but instead he
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  Speaker 1: shoved Chris Bowen out there, and Bowen was pretty pathetic.
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  Speaker 1: Peter Dutton and his Energy spokesman Tetobrian made the point
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  Speaker 1: over and over that in signing up to the aucust
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  Speaker 1: Nuclear Submarine deal, Australia has already put its hand up
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  Speaker 1: as a nation to run nuclear operations in Australia, like
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  Speaker 1: servicing the submarines part of the construction, and even to
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  Speaker 1: treat and dispose of nuclear waste. So why not nuclear
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  Speaker 1: power plants.
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister signed up to the nuclear submarines and therefore
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  Speaker 3: sent a very clear message to Australians that there are
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  Speaker 3: no safety concerns about the latest technology in relation to
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  Speaker 3: nuclear We spoke about disposal and the government signed up
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  Speaker 3: to disposing waste, including the end of life reactors under
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  Speaker 3: the Orchist Submarine Agreement.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great point, but I think the strongest arguments
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  Speaker 1: here are around reliable and clean energy over a longer
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  Speaker 1: period than solar and wind generators. And this crazy idea
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  Speaker 1: from Labor that we can do something that no one
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  Speaker 1: else in the world has ever done.
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  Speaker 3: If you look at every other comparable economy around the world.
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  Speaker 3: Of course they have adopted or have signed up to
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  Speaker 3: a use of nuclear energy. We just can't pretend anymore
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  Speaker 3: that part time power is going to run a full
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  Speaker 3: time economy.
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  Speaker 1: And you do have to ask if it's good enough
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  Speaker 1: and safe enough for the United States, Canada, France, China,
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  Speaker 1: and of course dozens and dozens of others. Why not
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  Speaker 1: here in a huge continent that just happens to have
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  Speaker 1: one of the biggest reserves of uranium on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: Why put our economy and the comfort of our people.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what they're doing, labor at risk, chasing a
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  Speaker 1: green dream that seriously we as a country will have
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  Speaker 1: little impact on globally. If labour thinks this climate crisis
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  Speaker 1: is as bad as people like Chris bow and keep
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  Speaker 1: telling us, why not then ban the export of fossil
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  Speaker 1: fuels like coal an LPG and tell other countries that
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  Speaker 1: using our uranium is a bad thing to do. So
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  Speaker 1: we are going to leave it in the ground. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's what the looney Greens want, and if we end
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  Speaker 1: up with a minority government, they will be arguing that's
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  Speaker 1: exactly what we should do. It would be an economic
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  Speaker 1: wrecking ball. Then we had some bloke from the Smart
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  Speaker 1: Energy Council, the peak body advocating solar that was on
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  Speaker 1: Sky today. He was asked what countries in the world
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  Speaker 1: are doing what we are trying to do with labor.
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  Speaker 1: His answer, have a look, Well, I'm.
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  Speaker 6: Talking about one hundred percent renewable grid Iceland Norway demarks
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  Speaker 6: about ninety seven percent.
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  Speaker 1: These are countries.
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  Speaker 6: These are advanced Western European countries that are powering their
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  Speaker 6: entire economy on renewable energy.
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  Speaker 1: Seriously Iceland and Norway. Comparing us with those tiny countries
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  Speaker 1: like them, This is lunacy that we're facing here. So
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  Speaker 1: the cards are on the table now, and make no mistake,
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  Speaker 1: there will be plenty of other policy differences in what's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a generation defining election come twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Now for more, I'm joined by our Friday regular, former
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  Speaker 1: Queensland Premier Campbell Newman. Campbell, great to see you again.
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  Speaker 1: Queensland already does a lot of the heavy lifting in
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  Speaker 1: the energy space. Do you think Queenslanders will see nuclear
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  Speaker 1: as a positive and this will turn votes on election date?
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  Speaker 7: I think Queensland as well, Perhaps in the context of
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  Speaker 7: your introductory editorial, I think Queenslanders are less likely to
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  Speaker 7: be people who respond in a bad way to the
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  Speaker 7: negative and inevitable scare campaign from the Labor Party. But
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  Speaker 7: I would make the comment I think the Coalition are
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  Speaker 7: going to have to do a lot more work on
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  Speaker 7: the ground to fight the fight. I know as a
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  Speaker 7: fact that the Labor Party have had people out there
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  Speaker 7: in Queensland in various areas that have been nominated by
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  Speaker 7: the Coalition for these plants trying to scare people already,
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  Speaker 7: and it'll be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 1: How that goes.
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  Speaker 7: But I think it's been a great day and I
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  Speaker 7: commend Peter to Dutton the Coalition for adopting this stance.
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  Speaker 7: It's a stance of my own party, the Libertarian Party.
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  Speaker 7: We're very strong on this and if we are to
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  Speaker 7: be a modern Western industrial country that actually can make
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  Speaker 7: things that can export to the world, that can have
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  Speaker 7: a high stand of living, we need to actually have affordable,
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  Speaker 7: like cost power and nuclear is the way to ensure
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  Speaker 7: that that's the case.
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  Speaker 1: As a retail politician who sniffs the breeze pretty well
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  Speaker 1: and knows what the mood of the country is, people
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  Speaker 1: want to know whether any of this, whether it be
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  Speaker 1: the green dream or whether it's nuclear, are going to
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  Speaker 1: make their power bills cheaper. I mean invariably, isn't it, Campbell.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to at an election. I
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  Speaker 1: think nuclear is important for the reasons you just outlined,
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  Speaker 1: But people going to the polling booths with a sausage
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  Speaker 1: sandwich in one hand whenever that election might be want
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  Speaker 1: to know, will it make my power to build cheaper? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I think they do.
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  Speaker 7: But I think there's a really interesting dynamic in this one.
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  Speaker 7: Steve say, Look, I'm a climate skeptic, and many people
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  Speaker 7: who are sort of over the age of fifty r
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  Speaker 7: But if we look at where the opportunity perhaps is
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  Speaker 7: for the coalition, that can't be underestimated, it's with the
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  Speaker 7: into twenty fives, maybe three to thirty who believe in
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  Speaker 7: this whole climate change things, who want to cut emissions.
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  Speaker 7: And interestingly, that demographic actually do see nuclear as being
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  Speaker 7: a real option, and they're getting their information from again,
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  Speaker 7: not the mainstream media, They're getting it from social media
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  Speaker 7: and from connections that are essentially international. I think they've
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  Speaker 7: woken up to the fact that this really should be
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  Speaker 7: on the table.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we.
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  Speaker 7: Actually, we actually could see it's shifting votes in an
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  Speaker 7: area that a coalition wouldn't normally get support if they
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  Speaker 7: actually target that younger demographic. That's an opportunity. I think
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  Speaker 7: that's been lost on the mainstream of political commentators and
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  Speaker 7: do many politicians.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a new Premier, David chris A fully I'm right,
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  Speaker 1: am I not that during the election campaign he made
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  Speaker 1: it clear that he does not support this nuclear plan
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  Speaker 1: has petered? Do enough Peter Dutton's tried to change his
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  Speaker 1: mind and can he change his mind?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I wouldn't have the inside information on that. I
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  Speaker 7: would hope that David would would come around. He's one
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  Speaker 7: thing he's not. He's certainly not silly and I think
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  Speaker 7: if you know he wants to actually do something about
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  Speaker 7: getting Queensland's emissions down, and if he wants to do
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  Speaker 7: it in a way that actually protects the environment, then
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  Speaker 7: he should get on board with this. I mean I could,
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  Speaker 7: I could, I could could and should speak about the
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  Speaker 7: Lotus Creek wind farm in central Queensland on the Great
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  Speaker 7: Dividing Range. It's sort of roughly halfway between Mackay and Rockampton. Mate,
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  Speaker 7: they are about well. I have just started dozing four
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  Speaker 7: hundred plus hectares of land there at least one hundred
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  Speaker 7: plus identified koalas in this area and a gliders, a
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  Speaker 7: glider a species. You know, we are destroying the environment.
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  Speaker 7: We are destroying the beautiful scenic amenity of Queens And
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  Speaker 7: this is on top of the Great Dividing Range, so
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  Speaker 7: that we can go to suppose elaya emissions. And you know,
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  Speaker 7: wind is better than soldar in terms of twenty four
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  Speaker 7: to seven energy generation, but is the environmental impact worth it?
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  Speaker 7: And I would say the guy flew out of Canbery
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  Speaker 7: the other day with my wife Lisa, and we're flying
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  Speaker 7: north and we're looking at the plane window and there's
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  Speaker 7: just wind farm after wind farm that you can see.
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  Speaker 7: It's a blight on the landscape. And future generations are
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  Speaker 7: likely to actually curse us, perhaps hopefully they'll curse Bowen
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  Speaker 7: for the blight that's been imposed on these natural landscapes.
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  Speaker 7: And this area, Lotus Creek is a wild old area.
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  Speaker 7: And so I'd say to David Chris Fooley, please get
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  Speaker 7: behind Peter Dutton. I'm afraid the battle for Latus Creek
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  Speaker 7: is lost. But there will be other projects that are
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  Speaker 7: going to similar environmental damage and they should be stopped.
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  Speaker 1: And I presume that big concrete slab we just saw
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  Speaker 1: there is the footing for a turbine, so then you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have what, you know, I can't remember how
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  Speaker 1: tall before they're.
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  Speaker 8: They're they're they're t and fife meters tall roughly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: there are, they are huge structures. They're there for for
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  Speaker 8: you know, the structures will be gone in the ground,
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  Speaker 8: were there long after the wind towers are gone. I
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  Speaker 8: mean Jim Wilnot from the Libertarian Party, who's the lead
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  Speaker 8: Senate candidate, has been out there talking to communities across
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  Speaker 8: Queensland and I can tell you now, Steve, that there
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  Speaker 8: are many, many people who are very distressed about this
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  Speaker 8: from across the political aisle, if I can put that,
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  Speaker 8: put it that way. People who are true environmentalists who
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  Speaker 8: have voted either for the Labor Party or Greens, are
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  Speaker 8: very concerned about this. Farmers, Grayziers, people in rural communities
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  Speaker 8: are seeing the natural environment, the scenic beauty being destroyed
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  Speaker 8: and really we don't have to do it. And it's
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  Speaker 8: not just the project, it's the transmission lines that suddenly
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  Speaker 8: have to be extended for many of these projects again
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  Speaker 8: cutting a sway through the landscape. Whereas the Coalitions Nuclear
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  Speaker 8: Plants sees these plants been placed at the existing nodes
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  Speaker 8: where power stations have burnt and the infrastructure is already there.
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  Speaker 8: We're not having to build the transmission lines criss crossing
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  Speaker 8: the country. That's where the true savings will come from
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  Speaker 8: what the coalition is proposing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I are old enough. I mean, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: it be nice to go back to the days of
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  Speaker 1: the Greens being led by someone like Bob Brown who
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  Speaker 1: actually cared about the environment, spent his time saving the
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  Speaker 1: Franklin and not letting all of those that beautiful bushland
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  Speaker 1: that you've just shown us be dug up and destroyed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Greens Party have just turned themselves into
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of inner city activists.
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  Speaker 7: Well, this is and it's just this xelotry we're seeing
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  Speaker 7: from the Labor Party and from the Greens. It is
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  Speaker 7: absolutely sort of in transitent zelotry where they will not
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  Speaker 7: accept that there are real costs that are coming. It's like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, if you wanted to go and build a
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  Speaker 7: residential subdivision in the bayside areas around Brisbane where there
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  Speaker 7: was Kohala habitat, I can tell it out.
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  Speaker 2: You wouldn't get get approval.
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  Speaker 7: You'd be there, you'd be there shut down with red
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  Speaker 7: and green tape for years.
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  Speaker 1: It just wouldn't happen.
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  Speaker 7: In contrast, these regulators seem happy to just weigh through
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  Speaker 7: these projects because they're out of sight, they're out of mine,
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  Speaker 7: and people in the cities aren't seeing them.
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  Speaker 1: But I think people are waking.
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  Speaker 7: Up by the way Bob Brown has taken a stand
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  Speaker 7: against the wind farm. When I last checked in, I
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  Speaker 7: think on in the northwest coast of Tasmane, I think
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  Speaker 7: it's I think it's the Robins Island. If I name serves,
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  Speaker 7: if that's the name from reserves me correct. He's taken
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  Speaker 7: a stand against that because of the environmental impacts of
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  Speaker 7: a wind project.
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  Speaker 2: That's the important point here.
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  Speaker 7: There are costs and benefits and trade offs with all
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  Speaker 7: these projects. The great thing about nuclear is that we
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  Speaker 7: save an enormous amount of money on transmission and we
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  Speaker 7: don't destroy the natural beauty and environment of Australia.
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, Hey Campbell, I've enjoyed our Friday
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  Speaker 1: night chats right through the year. We're back next year.
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  Speaker 1: We'd love to make sure you're with us. So have
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  Speaker 1: a great Christmas family and we'll talk to you in
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  Speaker 1: the new Harry Christmas, Steve. Yeah, good on you, Campbell Newman.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be back with us in twenty twenty five. Well,
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  Speaker 1: as I said, there's been some breaking news out of
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  Speaker 1: Victorian politics late this afternoon. The Liberal MP Sam Groth,
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  Speaker 1: who was in the shadow cabinet had a variety of portfolios,
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  Speaker 1: has decided to quit the shadow cabinet. And you'd have
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  Speaker 1: to say that this now does probably mean that there
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  Speaker 1: will be a leadership challenge to John Pursuto. Sam Gross
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  Speaker 1: said he couldn't in all conscience stay on the front bench.
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  Speaker 1: Join us now. Victoria's Shadow Police Minister Brad Baton. Brad,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. This has come as a surprise
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  Speaker 1: to most people. Are you surprised that this has happened
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  Speaker 1: to up? Oh?
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  Speaker 9: Look, I was a bit surprised, and I was speaking
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  Speaker 9: to Sam today. I've spoken to him yesterday as well,
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  Speaker 9: and I get along with Sam very very well. He's
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  Speaker 9: a great guy. He's coming to Parliament full of passion.
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  Speaker 9: He's committed, he knows that he's one day got a
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  Speaker 9: future in this party. And I know his decision is
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  Speaker 9: based on his beliefs and his values. Of what he
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  Speaker 9: said today with around the fact that he doesn't have
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  Speaker 9: some confidence in what's happening right at the moment, and
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  Speaker 9: that's a decision he's made by himself. But as I said,
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  Speaker 9: he's still.
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  Speaker 2: Part of our team.
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  Speaker 9: He's still a very important part of our team, and
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  Speaker 9: I know I'll be working with him in the future.
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to quit the front bench for the
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  Speaker 1: similar reasons?
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  Speaker 9: No? No, So at the moment is that I've got
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  Speaker 9: a program and a plan that I'm trying to operate.
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  Speaker 9: And you know, Steve, one of the ones I came
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  Speaker 9: on tonight, I'm the most passionate person when it comes
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  Speaker 9: to crime here in Victoria about trying to solve some
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  Speaker 9: of our crime issues. I've been given the honor of
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  Speaker 9: serving as the Shadow Minister for Policing Corrections and I've
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  Speaker 9: got a lot of work to do. And today, before
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  Speaker 9: I spoke to you today, Steve, I've been on my emails.
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  Speaker 9: You'd imagine we're getting a lot around obviously one issue,
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  Speaker 9: but I'm getting a lot in my area around Berrick
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  Speaker 9: in the Chase estate, We've had like nine or ten
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  Speaker 9: cars stolen overnight. We've got twenty a car be in
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  Speaker 9: style in every twenty three seconds here in Victoria. It's
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  Speaker 9: taking up a lot of my time and a lot
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  Speaker 9: of my attention. So at the moment, no, that's not
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  Speaker 9: my intention. My intention is to focus on what I
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  Speaker 9: need to which I was elected for, and it's focusing
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  Speaker 9: on getting a good opposition, making sure ready for government
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  Speaker 9: in the future, particularly around crime.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I always appreciate you stumping up. You
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  Speaker 1: never want to walk away from a pre arranged interview.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get on to machetes and teenage crime
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  Speaker 1: in a second. I just need to ask you, does
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  Speaker 1: Sam's resignation mean it's inevitable now that there'll be a
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  Speaker 1: challenge to your leader, John Pursuito.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: First of all, thank you for appreciating the fact that
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  Speaker 9: I came on, because it's probably one night that i'd
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  Speaker 9: consider you go. Well, this is going to be a
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  Speaker 9: tougher interview than normal, Steve, but I do respect you
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  Speaker 9: and I think it's fair that I do come on.
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  Speaker 9: Does it mean there's going to be a challenge in
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  Speaker 9: the very near future. I don't say it necessarily means
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: there's going to be a challenge in the near future,
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: but it does mean we have to have a discussion
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: within the party. We need to start talking about building,
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: uniting and making sure we can put forward a formidable
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: future going forward, and having a team that is built
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: on trust, a team that is built on confidence, and
• 18:53
  Speaker 9: a team that has built on the policies that we've
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: already started to put together. Some will have their views
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: on what's been happening publicly and in the media at
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: the moment. When I work with John, everything I've worked
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: on John with criminal justice reform, I've always appreciated working
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: with him, and I'll continue to do that. We have
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: a team that if I was putting a pound for pound,
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: I would weigh us up against labor every day of
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: the week. With the skills we bring in. We've got teachers,
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: we've got police officers, we've got retail workers, we've got
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: you name it, business owners, finance background, We've got an
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: amazing team. We've just got to find the right array
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: to ensure that we're there and ready to go for
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: the twenty twenty six so people have faith that we
• 19:29
  Speaker 9: can lead and deliver a good governance in Victoria that's
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: honest for them for our state.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Given how bad the Allen government is, a lot of
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Victorians watching us tonight would be saying, for God's sake,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: can the Liberals not get their own act together? Why
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: would we vote for them if they can't themselves run
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: their own operation without all this sort of carry on.
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: I would say to Victorians and particularly those watching your show,
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: you know in your team you've got an amazing array
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: of people, as I said myself, with the police and
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: small business background, Jess Wilson who's got a background in finance,
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: We've got even if someone our backbench or in our
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: middle bench, with our parliamentary secretaries, with Wayne Farnham who's
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: got a building background, We've got so many people who
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: bring an array of skills. Michael O'Brien's a former attorney
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: is coming to Parliament's now the shadow Attorney General. When
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: we all get down to work and we start talking
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: about policy, we come up with better policy that's in
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: the best interest of Victoria. As a team. Yes, at
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: the moment it looks like it's a mess outside, but
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: I'll tell you I was speaking to Michael O'Brien last night,
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: just last night about the issue at the Youth Justice
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: Center and a former prisoner inmate of that place coming
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: back and threatening staff with a gun. That's what we're
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: focused on externally. Sometimes it doesn't always look like that,
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: and I know the issues of today, but we've got
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: to work through this and ensure that we can build
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: a strong team that unites and make sure post Christmas
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: that people can have faith that we're ready not just
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: for paran but ready to take on the election of
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty six.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think all Victorian's hope you can get your
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: act together now. There's been another string of threatening, dangerous
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: youth crime during the week. One of the worst, I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: think was these three machete wielding teenagers arrested and then
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: immediately put out on bail again. They were at a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Christmas carol event in Brighton and they were clashing with police.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: There was families there, there was young children there. Not
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the only incident in that area either, a group of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: youths smashing their way through several homes, stealing cars, trying
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to run people over in the street when they tried
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to stop them from stealing their vehicles. Someone's going to
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: get killed here if someone doesn't take charge. What's the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Allen government actually doing, what's the police doing?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: I would say the Allen Labor government have removed a
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: lot of powers, particularly around bail. What we saw from
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: the outcome of this where people with machetes who have
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: effectively fought with police in front of kids at a
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: Christmas carols were bailed literally makes me sick. I know
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: it makes so many people through the community sick. This
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: brings back memories of when people get bail and they
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: end up killing someone. Like so you say someone has
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: to be killed for this to change. That's already happened,
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: and the Gordon family are already starting a petition have
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: had it going for a while to ensure that the
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: Allen Labour governments start to listen to those victims, stop
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: putting in place a justice system that is all about
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: the offender, and start putting it in place where we
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: actually consider what the victims' rights are. That is a
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: disgrace what happened in Brighton, and James Newbury will tell
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: you it's not the first night it's happened. This is
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: ongoing through Bayside where we're seeing mashety attacks, knife attacks
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: in shops, people scared to go to work, people afraid
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: to be in their own homes. That shouldn't be happening
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: anywhere in Victoria and it's happening right here in Bayside.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: And I said, James Newbury spoken about this a lot.
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: He's very passionate on it, and I know that he's
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: in my ear continuously to say what can we do?
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: And the things we can do is ensure that we
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: change the Bail Act to ensure when you go before
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: a judge that the judge has to rule based on legislation,
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: which they currently do, and the legislation effectivelyst moment says
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: give them bail, will refuse them that bail, and that
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: we lock up more people to keep the community safe.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You've now got in an LMP government in Queensland. They
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: passed their adult crime adult time laws. Are you keeping
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: an eye on that to see how that works? And
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: is that something you'd look at for Victoria.
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: We'll look at what we can do with sentencing and
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: what we can do with prevention and how we can
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: work with youth to keep them away from crime in
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: the first place. And I know there's a big focus
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: on adult crime adult time from what David christo Full
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: has done. But I've spoken to David and I'm going
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: to go up in January and meet with some of
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: his ministers as well as their staff, because the focus
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: really has to be on trying to stop people going
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: into the system. The adult crime. Adult time became the
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: turning point of the election. I think up there people
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: had a real focus on it, but David was very
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: passionate on the fact of what he was doing to
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: ensure that people who are young people who are eating
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: the justice system had the best role, as I think
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: you described it as a role gold prevention model to
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: ensure that rehabilitation could be done to keep these kids
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: and divert them away from the system. However, we understand
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: that or not always going to work, and violent criminals
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: should not be on our streets when they go into
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: the prison system. Though, whether it's youth justice or adult
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: we have to make sure that we're putting programs in
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: place to give them the skills when they get out,
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: whether that's education, going into the workforce, or getting the
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: services they need the current system here. As they go
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: in they effectively run the youth justice system here in Victoria,
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: they come out with more power and therefore they commit
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: more crime.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Brad, thank you for particularly coming on tonight, but also
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: for giving us some time on Fridays right through the year.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Look forward to talking to you in twenty twenty five.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: Thanks a lot now, thank you, have a great Christmas.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Good on your brad, bat and there's still plenty more
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to come. After the break, we'll look back and I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: really looking forward to this at the year that was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: with our favorite cartoonist, Mark Knight. He'll be joining me
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: in the studio soon showing us what his list of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: his favorite cartoons have been at a shocking week for
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the Jewish community and they're not happy with Anthony Albanesi's leadership.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Alex Ritchen will join me next Welcome back to De
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Price with Youdnika de Giorgio coming up at the top
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of the hour. Plenty more to come on the program.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: As I said, Mark Knight with the year's best cartoons,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you can't miss that. Plus my Friday panel. I want
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to get a tip from them on what they believe
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: is going to happen in twenty twenty five. But first up,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: very seriously, Labor has portrayed Israel again this week with
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that vote at the UN calling for an immediate and
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: unconditional and permanent ceasefire in Gaza. Who can believe what
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Penny Wong is doing to our country, as well as
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: defending the work of UNRA who that's the AID agency
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that was known to employ people who were hamas terrorists.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Anthony Alberanzi's leadership, as we know, he is under scrutiny
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: over his handling or mishandling or non handling of anti
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: semit Semitic attacks, those that we saw in Melbourne and Sydney.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: For more, I'm joined by Executive Council of Australian Jury
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: co CEO Alex Rifchin. Alex, it's been a dreadful week.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: It seems like it's been much longer than just one
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: week since that fire bombing of the synagogue. How's the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: community holding up?
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: Look, they're holding up well all in all all And
• 26:10
  Speaker 11: I feel like, you know, since the fire bombing and
• 26:13
  Speaker 11: since what happened in Wullara, and really for the last
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: fourteen months, the community has been cycling through a range
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: of emotions, you know, grief and trauma, pain, disbelief, but
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: also anger. And after the Dust Synagogue fire, that was
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: the real emotion that I was detecting in the community.
• 26:29
  Speaker 11: There was a great sense of anger, a sense of betrayal,
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: a feeling that the federal government had allowed this to
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: occur through its in action, through its weakness, had basically
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: created a situation in which synagogue could be set alight.
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: It's something that hasn't happened anywhere in the world. We've
• 26:45
  Speaker 11: had increasing antisemitism in the United States, in Europe, but
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: only in our country do we see a burning synagogue.
• 26:51
  Speaker 11: It's a scandal. And the fact that the federal government
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: has presided over the greatest increase in antisemitism in this
• 26:57
  Speaker 11: country's history, I think is a cause for shape am in,
• 27:00
  Speaker 11: a cause at the very least for deep reflection on
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: the part of the government. I'm not sure that will happen.
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: And as you say, they seem to be doubling down
• 27:07
  Speaker 11: on their policies with regards to Israel, demonizing it, insulting
• 27:11
  Speaker 11: it at every opportunity. And I think they don't realize
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: the connection between the Jewish community and the Jewish state,
• 27:16
  Speaker 11: and they don't realize that when they treat Israel as
• 27:19
  Speaker 11: a pariah, as a rogue state, it impacts on how
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: our fellow Australians treat this community. So I think they
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: need to come to that realization quickly.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I've been around a long time and I can remember
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the regard that Prime ministers like Bob Hawk, for example,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: had with his connection with the Australian Jewish community. He
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: had a very strong, long lasting connection to Australian Jews.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: He'd be turning in his grave, wouldn't he.
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: Well, we feel like we're at a low point in
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: terms of relations with the government, and you're right. We
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: are an Australian community. We've had extensive relations with governments
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: left and right, liberal and labor. You know the community.
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: A lot of people don't realize this goes back to
• 28:01
  Speaker 11: the first fleet. We help build this country. We feel
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: like we're part of this country. We love this country,
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: we're patriotic to this country. We serve in the military.
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: We've contributed to every facet of Australian life and will
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: continue to do so. But the way that we've been
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: treated in the last fourteen months when we've needed the
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: government most has really let the community down and it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: made us feel like we're alone. But fortunately civil society
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: and other communities are feeling that vacuum of leadership, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: we're hearing from other faiths and other cultural national groups
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: all the time and ordinary Australians. I received messages hundreds
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: of messages every week pledging support for the Jewish community.
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: People are astonished at what's happening to us, and so
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: that makes us feel like we're not alone in this fight,
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: and that's very important.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Well, the targeting is now, there's no argument about the targeting.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're setting cars, a light and door
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: being anti israel slogans in Wallara, you know you're in
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: an area where there is a large Jewish population. When
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you're attacking a synagogue in Melbourne, in the heart of
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the Jewish community of this city, you know you're targeting
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Jews and it is an anti Semitic attack. I mean,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: can we put the genie back in the bottle? How
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: can the government regain the trust of the Jewish community
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and prevent this from still happening. I mean, I'll tell
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you what. Tomorrow Saturday, there'll be another pro Palestinian march
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: right through the middle of Melbourne, people waving you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: hamas flags. It hasn't stopped, Alex. That's right.
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: And to answer you a question about what can the
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: government do, the answer is stop talking and start doing
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: where Well, beyond the point of words and rhetric and
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: pretty speeches that are mental appeace of the Jewish community. We
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: want to see action, and after the does fire, we
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: basically put a letter to the Prime Minister with all
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: the things we've been calling forth in the last fourteen months,
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: asking him to urgely act on these things for the
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: good of the community and not just the community. When
• 30:00
  Speaker 11: cars are burning in our neighborhoods, it's not just the
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: Jewish community that suffers. When a synagogue is set alive,
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: it's not merely attack on the Jewish community. It's an
• 30:08
  Speaker 11: attack on free worship, multiculturalism. Western values are very freedoms
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: and democracy in the society. That's what's at stake here.
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: But the government hasn't woken up to that, and we
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: need them to. And we for a long time have
• 30:20
  Speaker 11: been calling for increased security funding given the threats that
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: we're receiving, and it took the dust fire to finally
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: get that additional security funding. We've been called calling for
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: greater education about what anti Semitism is so people stop
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: being manipulated by anti Semitic conspiracy theories about Jewish global
• 30:37
  Speaker 11: domination and Jewish money and Jewish bloodthursts and Jewish evil
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: that corrode and degrade healthy societies. We've been calling for
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: a ban on protests outside schools and places of worship
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: that should not be happening, And there's a direct connection
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: between those protests and the fire bombing of synagogues. It
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: assigns them as legitimate targets and then you see what
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: happens later on. Been calling for concrete action, law reform,
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: for people who hold a loft, the portraits of terrorist
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: leaders to be brought to justice. That hasn't happened. We
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: need better policing, but none of these things are happening
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: at the moment, Frankly. But it begins with Retrick at least,
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: and leadership. But even on that, the government has been
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: sloppy and weak and contradictory.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Alex, you're doing an outstanding job for your community. Thank
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you very much for giving us some time, Alex Ritchin there,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and we'll keep an eye on that in the coming weeks.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Now coming up, we'll light in the mood the wonderful
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Mark Knight. He's got plenty of cartoons to show us.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: He's going to show us his favorites of all of
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. You don't want to miss that. Plus
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: lots to cover with my Friday panel. Is a Papua
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: New Guinea NR? Real team really worth six hundred million
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: dollars of taxpayers money? That's all after the break, Welcome
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: back Steep Price with you now. It's been on a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: huge year elections, attempted assassinations of Donald Trump and a
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: lot more. There's been no shortage your headline. So let's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: take a walk back through twenty twenty four with our
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: favorite cartoonist, Australia's best Mark Knight. You've had plenty to draw,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: lots of material, never a shortage in this job, and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think it'd be any different next year. You're
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: going to have an election to play with. You're gonna
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: have Donald Trump back in the White House. Yes, so
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: we've asked you to do something that's quite a chore.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: You've had to go back through your own favorite drawing
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and pull out the ones that you thought were pretty good.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: We're going to start with Duttenheimer.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Well it's topical today, isn't that?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I love how good's that? You know?
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: I love to combine politics with things that are happening
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: in our lives, like like you know, sort of popular
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: culture and when the Oppenheimer movie came out, Don't re
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: least his policy.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I thought these things just conflate beautifully.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Has he asked for that? He got to have that, so.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I used it, asked for it. But I don't know,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: you know, I might send him a copy.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Come on, peet, get on the line. One of the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: other big stories, of course, was the Prime still quite
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: keen on flying at the front of a Countus plane.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: He doesn't like it down the back of the bus.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: No albow's upgrades.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: This is the first class lounge at Sydney Airport. You've
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: drawn there and that makes me think you've been in there.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I had to google it. I had to google it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I can't read that well.
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: It's because he's being served by, of course, Alan, the
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: ex boss of Quantus. Yes, Joycey and Alan. Did I
• 33:30
  Speaker 12: tell you that I grew up in public housing? And
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: joyce Is say you're a man of the people.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Prime Minis start more champagne.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: How many times have we heard that? It was a
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Sunday morning. I remember this because I was in Sydney.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I was going to have coffee with people, and I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: had the radio on in the car i'd rendered and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump they tried to kill him and he got
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: shot in the right ear. Now, that would be a
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: difficult cartoon to draw. It was did you do that
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: on Sunday for the Monday? Do you remember? Look?
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I had to react very quickly, and we all
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: saw that amazing photo. That photo looked like it was
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: just photo shopped. It was, It had all the elements
• 34:08
  Speaker 12: in it. So I just started off. I just sketched
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: that photo and I thought, what does it mean? And
• 34:14
  Speaker 12: you know, he was so defiant in that. I thought,
• 34:16
  Speaker 12: this is just one in the election. You know, he's
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: been shot and this moment has just won Trump the election,
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: and that's what the cartoon was.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: So he got They tried him to get down member,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: he got behind the podium, and then when they said
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: they'd secured the gunman, he was saying, where's my shoes
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: inorder to get back up, and then there was that
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: spontaneous fist pump. Yeah, became the whole that that epitomized
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: his bid to come back and be president.
• 34:45
  Speaker 12: Fight and you're saying fight, fight, And they tried to
• 34:48
  Speaker 12: drag him off and he said to the secret serviceman,
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: wait a minute, put his fist up.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Looked at the crowd and said fight and it was
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: like maang, wow, that's he did have some.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Fun with the Victorian government during the Yeah, they give
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you lots of things to.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Draw headless material about.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: One of the great things was we had the Comworth
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: games that are going to be here in yes, twenty
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: thirty two or something I think, I can't remember, twenty
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: twenty six, I think twenty six, okay, twenty twenty six.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: They completely screwed it up and we had to pay
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: this massive penalty yep. And so we're now funding com
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: games at Scotland.
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: Well, you know that great saying that Kerry Packer had
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: you only get one Alan Bond in your life, you
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: know when he brought back Channel nine, and I use
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: that that's the same situation here.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: The Scottish only get one Dan Andrews in their life.
• 35:43
  Speaker 12: And the guys say, and we've had ours, and boy
• 35:47
  Speaker 12: did they they pick up a nice little as you
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: can see, they're a little nest egg.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Nice little whiskey. Speaking of the games, we of course
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: had ray Gun. Ray Gun was a breakdancer apparently yes,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and appeared at the Olympic Games.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: A pretty average one, but fairly.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: There's anime is on the left. So this was chef
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the mission.
• 36:13
  Speaker 12: Yeah, the press conference at the end of the games,
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: and we did so well and we had so many
• 36:17
  Speaker 12: gold medalists and they were all just fantastic and Anna
• 36:20
  Speaker 12: was crying and she was crying about what a great
• 36:22
  Speaker 12: occasion it was that we won gold here and gold there.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: But the second frame, I think is really all we're
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: going to remember.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Rey Gun is Reygun. Ray Gun's now copyrighted the Kangaroo
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: move and the name ray Gun.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Well, nobody remembers who you know who won this for Australia.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: All they remember is her.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: We talked last week about how often cartooning has to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: be a serious business because we were here on the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Friday when the synagogue fighter. Yeah, we had that big
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: protest in Melbourne during the year, the Landforces protest right
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: where a lot of people got arrested. There's two police
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: on the Police Forces.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yes and tank in the background.
• 37:03
  Speaker 12: Well, one copper is saying another because the demonstration was
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: so violent and they were attacking this demonstration with gusto.
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: So one of the coppers is saying, well, this military
• 37:17
  Speaker 12: exhibition could learn a lot from these peaceful protesters. There
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: was a war was being waged on the streets of Melbourne.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Now, speaking of Olympics, Jess Fox, Yes and Labor.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I love Jess Fox. She is a true legend, too
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: many to count.
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: And so I remember during the Olympics and I just
• 37:41
  Speaker 12: can't turned her going down that amazing rapid event. And
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: then I thought, I'll put our leaders in the same
• 37:49
  Speaker 12: situation and see how they would fare.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And as you can see up the back, yes, he's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: hanging on for dear life. I think they ended upside down. Stephen,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you thought you love drawing love lydiot. Is it a
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: big year? Yeah?
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: And yes, her finger is very famous, her middle finger, Charles.
• 38:11
  Speaker 12: But when Charlie and Camilla were here.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: She let them know what she thought of them.
• 38:16
  Speaker 12: And this is Charles saying, yes, I think we're going
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: to get the welcome to country.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: The unofficial Welcome to country.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your help this year. It's
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: been great. When we spoke last week, you had the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: job of trying to draw about the synagoguea thought outstanding.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks but thanks, that's very hard. But you are an
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: absolute star. The cartoons are fantastic. I know people who
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: buy the Herald Son turned to the Mark Night page
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: and then throw the paper away. So thanks me pretty well.
• 38:44
  Speaker 12: It's great to be back with you again because we
• 38:46
  Speaker 12: started together on the Herald and we're back together again.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: You start at the Herald, You're sitting next to me.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: And that's where I'll finish all the best. Merry Christmas tes.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Night, see you next year. Mark Knight, the great cartoonist
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: from the Heralds and after the break, Labour can't help
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: it splash some cash around in our Royal team's free childcare,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: my panel, my Power Panel away in on that next
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: plus Donald Trump named Time Magazines Person of the Year
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: or on that story as well. Welcome back to the program.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: It is our show of twenty twenty four before the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Christmas break. I'll be back in mid January next year.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't be a Friday Night without our Power Panel joining me.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Small Business Women Australia CEO Amanda Rose has been very
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: generous with the Time this year and Sky News contributed
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Joe Hildebrand. Great to have you both with us and
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: thank you very much in advance for what you've done
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: this year. It's been great chatting to the great elbow defender.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Have you read my column in the Herald sun Yet.
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: Joe, I have no doubt that it's a very articulate
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: and well positioned argument for the re election of an
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: Albanezy labor government.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I cannotly assume that that's what you wrote. Prices surtled down. Yeah, no,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: wrong assumption. Sorry to sorry to rain on your pread. Now,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: speaking of I need you to help you. Joe, I
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: sat there and watched Peter Vorlandi's Anthony Albanezi and the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: PNG Prime Minister launched this six hundred million dollar deal
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: for a pub when your Guinea NRL team. It's going
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to start in twenty twenty eight, and we're going to
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: put six hundred million taxpayers dollars, which is a lot
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: of cash into this rugby league team. Now, Joe, I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: can't work this out. A lot of it goes to
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: existing NRL teams as some sort of compensation apparently for
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a new license. I don't quite get that, because I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: presume the media TV rights are going to be worth
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: more with extra teams. Is it really a smart thing
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: for a government going into an election to put six
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars into an NRL team. Yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: Look to be honest, that's not really just about the
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: NRL team, and that is obviously a very large part
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: of it, and it is a bonus. And we want
• 40:56
  Speaker 10: to make rugby league and international sport to grow it
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: in the region. And we all know that island and
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: Pacific Islanders make incredibly good rugby league players. But it's
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: also about keeping China at bay. It's also about making
• 41:10
  Speaker 10: sure that p ANDNG, just like the Solomons before it,
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: and other Asia Pacific nations, do not get sort of
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: bought off or picked off by China. So the most
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: important thing about this deal is that if p and
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: G ends up signing or doing any security or policing
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: deals with China, we take that six hundred million dollars
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: off the table immediately.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: That is gone.
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: So it is basically a six hundred million dollar carrot
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: for PNG to remember who its closest ally and benefactor
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: is and not to be tempted by the great Red
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: Dragon to the north.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: It seems to me it's another genius move by Peter Vilandies,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: who is very good at extracting money out of state
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and federal governments, who rugby league Amanda, wouldn't we be
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: better off saying to the Papua New Guineans is six
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: hundred million for to build some new schools or a
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: few new hospitals or clean up some of their infrastructure.
• 42:05
  Speaker 13: Yes, so I'm not a fan of any of that
• 42:08
  Speaker 13: money going to another club just to keep them quiet
• 42:10
  Speaker 13: about introducing a new club. We have quite a good
• 42:13
  Speaker 13: relationship with Popa New Guinea in relation to say women
• 42:16
  Speaker 13: and entrepreneurship, where we fund a skill set so help
• 42:20
  Speaker 13: them with learning a new skill that they then can
• 42:23
  Speaker 13: create their own business in doing so, and that's been
• 42:26
  Speaker 13: very successful and the Liberal government actually brought that in.
• 42:29
  Speaker 13: So it's good to see the current government's doing something.
• 42:33
  Speaker 13: I mean, I don't like the idea of it's to
• 42:35
  Speaker 13: pay them off to not work with China. Hopefully it's
• 42:38
  Speaker 13: more of an economic investment into their community. And hopefully
• 42:43
  Speaker 13: the players are paid the right amount of money and
• 42:46
  Speaker 13: not less than other NRL players, and that their families
• 42:49
  Speaker 13: can leverage off the fact that they're players and get
• 42:51
  Speaker 13: other contracts, whether it's for community building or you know,
• 42:55
  Speaker 13: and it just expands. What we don't want is just
• 42:57
  Speaker 13: the one off payment and then nothing else.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Can't wait to see how they convince Rugby League start
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: to go and live in port Moresby. I'm not sure
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: that's going to happen too much. I would have thought
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: that would not be a great place to be bringing
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: up your family. Speaking of families, they're also splashing cash around.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I mean this is going to happen all the way
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: now until the election. Labor announced a billion dollar fun
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: for new childcare centers with a minimum three days of
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: subsidized care. Okay, that sounds pretty good. There must be
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: an election coming. One thing that caught by I was
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: at every family up to earning up to five hundred
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and thirty thousand dollars a year will be guaranteed access
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to subsidized childcare. And they're scrapping the activity test so
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you can be on a combined salary of half a
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: million bucks. Gee, that suburban tennis clubs are going to
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: be booming, aren't they go? Yeah?
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, I mean I think you're absolutely right. This
• 43:55
  Speaker 10: is just a way to basically say to middle Australia,
• 43:58
  Speaker 10: this is what we're going to give you, this is
• 44:00
  Speaker 10: what we're offering. It's cutting red tape, it's cutting the
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: endless form feeling that you have to do to get
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: childcare will come. Literally, my youngest child is just finishing
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: childcare this week, so it comes far too late for
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: me to get any benefit from it whatsoever. Thanks Albo,
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: But it is a great way just to say squarely
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: to middle Australia.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That you know, we've got some goodies for you. Vote
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: for us.
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: And it's a great policy as well. Universal universal preschool
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: is important thing, but sort of that late sort of
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: three four five education that you get that is known
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: to be an absolute huge benefit to society when it's implemented, you.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Would have been over the five hundred thousand dollars limit anyway,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: so you wouldn't have got it. Amanda, is this a
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: good thing for small business?
• 44:46
  Speaker 13: Well, that's a very good point. So firstly, I'm not
• 44:49
  Speaker 13: a fan of people or families at bringing half a
• 44:51
  Speaker 13: million dollars get the same subsidy of those are really
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: struggling trying to make ends meet, because subsidies are for
• 44:58
  Speaker 13: those who genuinely need it to help them participate in society,
• 45:02
  Speaker 13: build their economic wealth within their family to survive, not
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: as a free ticket for those who can actually afford childcare.
• 45:08
  Speaker 13: That money is wasted and could actually go elsewhere. What
• 45:11
  Speaker 13: I'd like to see is a carve out here for
• 45:14
  Speaker 13: the eight hundred and fifty thousand small business owners, who
• 45:17
  Speaker 13: are female small business owners who always miss out on
• 45:21
  Speaker 13: a lot of subsidies opportunities when it comes to government.
• 45:25
  Speaker 13: So it'd be very wise of the government to say
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: what we'll do is we'll make sure because a majority
• 45:31
  Speaker 13: of about eighty percent of business women have a turner
• 45:34
  Speaker 13: of two fifteen under. But they're not that profitable, so
• 45:37
  Speaker 13: we need to make sure they can get subsidized childcare
• 45:40
  Speaker 13: so they can run their business. And the more successful
• 45:43
  Speaker 13: they are on their business, the less they rely on government.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: It's only going to be a matter of time before
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: some political party taps you on that red jacket and says,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: come and work for us. I would have thought, Joe,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: any argument with Donald trumping Time Magazines Person of the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Year for twenty twenty.
• 45:58
  Speaker 10: Four, none, whatsoever. It's the second of his two great
• 46:04
  Speaker 10: comebacks from twenty twenty four. Donald Trump's political comeback is
• 46:08
  Speaker 10: probably the greatest political comeback of all time, full stop. Ever,
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: not just in US history, not just in the twenty
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: first century. I would say probably forever, with a possible
• 46:19
  Speaker 10: exception of Julius Caesar, but look how that ended up.
• 46:23
  Speaker 10: He needed to win, just to show the Democrats how
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: disgracefully they had screwed things up, how disgracefully they had
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: gas lit the American people and the world that the
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: sort of woke identity politics mumbo jumbo waffle that was
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: parroted by Kamala Harris needs to be purged from our
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: politics immediately, and hopefully there are signs that that is happening.
• 46:43
  Speaker 10: And if it takes Donald Trump getting elected and just
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: rebelizing the entire elitist Democratic Party machines, how it can
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: start again. Well that's a good thing as far as
• 46:54
  Speaker 10: I'm concerned.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I think Guy might have gone Amanda with Elon Musk
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: given he just tickto of the four hundred billion mark,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: making him the richest man ever in the world.
• 47:05
  Speaker 13: Look, I'm always suspicious of extremely wealthy people and what
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: they had to do to get there. So I'm going
• 47:13
  Speaker 13: to leave that one.
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I want to tip from both of you. What's going
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: to happen in twenty twenty five, I said at the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: beginning of the show tonight. But look, we're going to
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: have a federal election. Donald Trump will be back in
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the White House come January. Joe look into a crystal Ball.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Tell us what you think might be the big story
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five.
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: I think, actually, I'm feeling very positive about it. I
• 47:36
  Speaker 10: think there'll be a de escalation in global violence simply
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: because people will not know what to make of Donald Trump.
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: A bit of Madman diplomacy doesn't doesn't go too bad
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: in times of crisis. And so we've already seen HESBLA
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: agree to a cease fire with Israel after they've been
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: adamized by them. We've already seen signs that Zelenski and
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: Putin might reach some kind of compromise deal in Ukraine.
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: Syria I think will be very quickly overrun by Islamic extremists,
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: which is a shame, but you know, two out of
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: three ain't bad.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Very cheery, Amanda, can you lift the tone for us
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit? Please?
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: Look what I think is happening, and I'm starting to
• 48:17
  Speaker 13: see it happen now. There's going to be more unity
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: with everyone, the everyday person, because they're starting to see
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: that when it comes to politics at the top, they're
• 48:25
  Speaker 13: usually two sides of the same coin. There's a lot
• 48:27
  Speaker 13: of similarities with the major parties. So I see independence
• 48:30
  Speaker 13: picking up in popularity but also just the general population
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: starting to question everything, which is what we want to see.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: He's no more independence, no more tills. Amanda Rose and
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Joe Hildebrand, it's been scantastic having the book with us
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: on the program through the year. Love to have you
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: back next year in twenty twenty five. Both of you.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Have a great Christmas, and thank you to my audience
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: for tuning in on a Friday night. Danika de Giorgio's
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: up next.