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Chemtrails, complexity, and circles of influence | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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My name is Germ. This is Germ warfare, the battle
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of ideas. I don't think you and I have
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spoken in 2026. No, I don't.
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Oh, shit. Hold on.
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No, I don't. I don't think we have.
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No, no, we haven't. No, I can't remember the last
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time. It was a while ago.
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Well, how do discussions normally go?
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Let's talk about the weather. Well, your weather's different.
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I'm. You know, when you, when you're
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in the, when you're in the conspiratorial space, you can
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say how's the weather? And then we get into a
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discussion about geoengineering. That's right.
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You know, I don't follow that that closely because I, you
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know, it's those kinds of things like chemtrails and crap like
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that. It's like I just figure, you
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know, we're screwed. Listen, I I've actually, I've
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actually been been entertaining the whole chemtrail thing
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recently and this doesn't get me brownie points, you know, in the
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alternative media space. But I am of the opinion that the
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whole chemtrail thing is completely overstated.
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Yeah, probably. I think everything is no.
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No, no. But I can tell you exactly why I
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think it's completely overstated, because it's very,
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very expensive and extremely inefficient.
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I mean, there are some so many better ways to poison people
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than to spray the skies because spraying the skies is it's so
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unreliable and unpredictable and, you know, and it also
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affects the people who are doing the spraying.
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Right, right, right. Well, that's what a lot of this
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stuff is. It's like even the vaccine
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thing, it's like, you know, how do you implement genocide with,
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with something like that? You know when when you've got
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all the people that are supposed to survive it are also were they
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informed? Don't take the vaccine?
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You know, it's, it's like, and I mean, I know there was a lot.
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Of that's quite easy though, no, hold on, I think.
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That's easier, yeah. It is weird because I mean, it's
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literally an injection into your body, right?
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And you can also get a placebo, but.
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Yeah, but right, right, right. Well, the chemtrails are the
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same thing that's going on with with the whole mRNA technology
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that they're putting in mosquitoes and no.
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No, no. But what I'm saying to you, no,
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no, no, no, hold on, go back a few steps.
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What I'm, what I'm saying to you is that an airplane has to fly.
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It has to fly above you and it has to actively spray something,
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right? And, and so whoever is, I mean,
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firstly, there's a whole trail of things that has to happen in
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order for that to occur, which the conspiratorial folks don't
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ever look into. They don't follow the trail, you
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know, like where, where does the actual, where do the chemicals
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come from? They have to come from somewhere
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and then they have to go on a truck and they have to go into
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the airplane somehow. So are they inside the, is it
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inside the fuel? Is it a separate compartment?
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Does work differently. And I've interviewed GE
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engineering people and, and they make fairly persuasive arguments
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about about chemtrails, but they don't go beyond that.
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And that's that's what frustrates me.
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I don't know. Crap.
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I, I remember one of the first, the first thing, this was back,
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this was like 25 years ago or more.
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It's more than that. And it was when it first started
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up as being the thing that people were talking about.
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And I had a very good friend who is in the Air Force and I
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mentioned it to him and we were communicating a lot together and
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whatever. And I mentioned, well, what
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about these chemtrails? I never heard from him again.
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It's like he just disappeared. So I and then I started going,
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oh Gee, maybe there is something to it.
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No, I hear you. And you know, it's the same
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argument they have with with the Twin Towers.
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You know, it's like, well, that would have taken a lot of work
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to put, you know, explosives on the elevators and wherever it
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was on the columns and all that stuff.
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So there's always that, there's that common sense thing that
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people do come up with and they like say, well, if that were
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true, how could they pull that off without without a lot of
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people lying or whatever. But even that's fairly easy.
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I mean, these things are are not complicated to do because most
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of the, shall we say, the peasant classes doing the
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groundwork don't really know what's going on at the top.
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Same thing with, you know, I mean, same.
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Yeah, you know, you know what I mean.
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Like with the moon landing. Whatever.
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I don't. Know.
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Like with the moon landing, let's just say, let's just say
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they didn't go. It's fairly easy to pull that
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off because you only need a handful of people at the top who
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actually knew whether or not those 3 astronauts who went to
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the moon. Well, isn't that the whole, you
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know, need to know basis? I mean, isn't that the whole way
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that any of these espionage systems work is that only a few
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people know what's going on? I mean, that's the way they they
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control it and contain it. I I don't have any works.
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Yeah, right. Exactly.
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I don't have any problem at all believing all these things
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obviously about it every day. I don't go that far into
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analyzing it because I think there's a common sense element
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to it that that also supports it.
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I mean, you know, it's, it's like it doesn't make any sense
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that say building 7 collapse the way he did and, and whatever.
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I mean, that's a common sense thing and figuring out how they
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did it. Is is that doesn't really, I
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mean, what there there's, there's some logic thing I'm I'm
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thinking of and I can't think of the name of it now.
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It's it's like, if it, if it's there, it got there somehow.
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And it doesn't really matter if you can figure that out or not.
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I mean, it's like it's, it's there and and it's obvious it's
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there. And you're right about the, the
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chemtrail things. I mean, there really isn't, is
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there, is it? And you would know this because
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I'm just saying crap about it, but it's not an an area that
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I've even looked at. But you, you have because you've
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had guests on and everything. I mean, do they explain the
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effect that it's having is? There and there is there is
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validity to the whole thing. I, you know, I've never, I've
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never said chemtrails don't exist.
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But this is also the false dichotomy problem that we have.
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If I say I think it's overstated and what they hear is so you're
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saying they don't exist. No good moron.
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I'm not saying that, yeah, I'm not saying that.
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I'm just saying it's overstated. I know pilots and they know how
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a Boeing works. You know, they have to know it's
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part of the training. And in order for them to
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actively spray stuff, you know, let's say an Emirates plane is
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flying, the pilot has to know what's going on if he's going to
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activate that spray. Because as we've seen from all
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the cell phone photographs, because that's all they ever
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are, cell phone photographs of these long trails in the sky.
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And they go look, look, look, it's chemtrails.
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But what, what I don't get is why don't any of these people
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take telescopes and zoom in and see what airplane that actually
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is? Is it a Boeing 767?
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And if it is, that plane is physically going somewhere and
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it's going to land somewhere that can be tracked and traced.
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And then you can have a look at that aeroplane and you can see
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who the pilot was. And you can, you know, you can,
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you can bold a whole case around it.
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But all we ever see is 1 snapshot of of something
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happening in the sky and nobody ever zooms in, yet they zoom in
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on the moon and everything else. Yeah, but you know, I, I don't
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think anything is, is as it is. It looks, I mean as it seems is
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is a whole different thing. I mean, but but like the whole
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chemtrail thing and anything else it's like spun out of in
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delirium. I mean, it's to the point where
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where you, you can't kind of 0 in on the truth.
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And it's like what you said earlier, it, it, it's like it's
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black and white with everything. I mean, everything is so black
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and white now. It's like you can't even
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suggest, well, the pyramids weren't built by slaves, you
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know, pulling stones up on a ramp and they go, oh, so you,
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you believe aliens built them or you believe that, you know, that
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they were, they just appeared or something.
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I mean, you know, and it's like, it's like, no, I'm just saying
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that they weren't built that way.
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And, you know, you're saying I, I don't think the chemtrails are
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what all the advocates for chemtrail insanity are saying.
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It's just, it's just, that doesn't make sense.
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And then it's like, oh, well, you, you, you're saying
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chemtrails don't exist and there, there's nothing to be
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concerned about. And again, you know, like me,
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I'm Mr. Paranoid and I believe everything for the most part
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that we concern ourselves with that we talk about is, is part
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of the agenda's intention. And I think this is one of those
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things where chemtrails very well may be just a, a decoy,
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They may be something that has been put into place that doesn't
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do anything. Maybe two or three planes every
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once in a while will go up and, and do something that looks like
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chemtrails and, and then the agenda goes good.
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We've got them all looking at that now and they're not looking
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at really what we're doing back here behind the screen.
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And I'm not saying that's what it is 'cause I don't know enough
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about it. I mean, you can shoot that down
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probably pretty easily. But I'm just saying I think
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there's a lot of stuff out there that's put out there by the
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agenda itself in in order for us to to pay attention.
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I think Trump is that. I mean, I think he's he's he's
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like the perfect distraction for for everything.
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Now what? He might not even know it.
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He might not know. Yeah, he might not know that,
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that he's playing that role, but he very well could be.
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And the agenda just sits there and goes, well, yeah, let him
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sit there and bicker about Greenland and Venezuela and
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whatever while we're under the hood here tinkering with with
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things that actually matter to us.
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And, you know, it's a great distraction because if you
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really analyze what he's done, you, you can't really find a lot
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that really is against the agenda's intentions that really
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disrupts the agenda's agenda. Well, I mean, I think that's by
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design, as you, as you say. I mean, I agree with you is what
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I'm saying. Because so it's easy to fall
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into the trap of thinking everything, you know, every,
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everything now is a, is a is a is a is a is a trick.
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I've gone blank. Everything is not as it seems,
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but some some things are as they seem.
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Right, right. I mean, again, going back to
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Trump's, he's always the topic. I mean, he very well may be the
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savior. He very well may be a maverick.
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That's that got in place. Let's not, let's not push our
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luck here. Well, you know, I'm, I'm just
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kind of going along with that. I mean, everybody that, that
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everybody on our side of the fence and they're not just, you
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know, on our side of the fence here, there, it's kind of
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divided. There's there.
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And I don't know what the percentage is, but there's a
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huge group of people that do believe that Trump is most
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definitely part of the agenda, part of the deep state,
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whatever. And there's there's a handful of
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people that don't that actually think he's doing something to
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bring back, you know, this, this idea of national sovereignty and
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all of that. Maybe he is.
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I mean, I I don't necessarily think the agenda has their
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finger in every single pie. No, and that's the point,
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because you also inadvertently now made a false dichotomy by
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saying that, you know, he's either part of the agenda or he
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is the savior. But what about 1/3 option or a
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fourth option? What if he really is just, you
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know, a blockhead who is loved by millions of Americans, but
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because he's a blockade and and filled with hubris, he's easily
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played by those around him? Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just, I was just doing the
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false on purpose. Now I, you know, because they're
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the two extremes and you're absolutely right.
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I mean, all of this stuff could be like the chemtrails going
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back to that. Yeah.
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They. Just may not be anything at all.
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What the, the, the polarization that is accepted.
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It's either this, just like you were saying earlier, it's either
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this plan to kill everybody or it's not at all.
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It's it's just smoke coming out of planes for some stupid
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reason. But yeah, it could be something
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in between. I mean, you know, I don't know
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what that would be, but. Well, I mean, a problem that I
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have with with with the conspiratorial minded people
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also is that everything is far too binary.
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They somehow don't understand complex systems, right?
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And complexity is a huge part of life.
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Huge. You know, I am not a fan of
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Occam's Razor. I, I never have been.
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I mean, I may be an idiot for saying that, but you know,
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there, there certainly is. But you hear that all the time.
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You hear people say, well, this is the simplest explanation for
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this. So Occam's Razor, it must be the
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truth. And it's like, I'm a, I'm a very
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firm believer in complexity and chaos and this idea that things
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are not as nicely put in a row. I mean, you hear about, I can't
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remember who it was that did this, but there was somebody
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mathematically that was going on about measuring coastlines and
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how that you can't do that with any kind of accuracy at all
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because the resolution changes. I mean, you're going to start
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measuring the the width of a grain of sand that could be part
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of that coastline that you're measuring.
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There's a term for that I I can't remember.
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Yes, and, and, and basically the conclusion was you can't
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actually know the, the, the, the, the length of a coastline
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around the country, for example, right.
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You can't. Yeah, you can't.
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And I think that applies to everything.
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I mean, the the complexity of any of these things.
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Trump is bad. Trump is good.
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It's like it's somewhere in between, yes, and that's a
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simplistic example, I know, because sometimes that that
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complexity doesn't matter. Yes, it doesn't.
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It doesn't have it. Like it doesn't matter if the
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grain of sand is going to change the the number you put on the
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coastline, the length, you know, but something could.
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Part of the, the whole notion of complexity is that you can have
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simplicity within complexity also.
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So you you can have things that appear as simply as they are,
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and then you can have things that are not as they seem.
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But it's it's too. It's too black and white to
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simply say everything is not as it seems.
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Yeah, absolutely. It's it's much.
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Yeah. That's way too simplistic.
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Well, let me give you an example.
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I am sitting here and you are sitting there.
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That that is as it seems. I'm not, I'm not a, I'm not some
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sort of reptilian with a, you know, with a face mask on.
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Well, how do I know that? Well then, then we can get into
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into AQ and. AI know you're I mean you're
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getting into some deep stuff there with with like quantum
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realities and the idea the consciousness and the idea of
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creating your own reality and and all of that I mean you
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could. That's what Jeff.
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Yeah. So.
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So that's what Jeff Berwick said on my show.
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Who? Jeff Berwick, he was talking
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about exactly that. Yeah, well, you know, that's a
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consideration. I I don't think it does us a lot
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of good to dive into that because it's, it's like, you
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know, we're, we're I, I think the only time it does this good
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is to realize that fear is, is a construct.
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Like the idea of fear of, I mean, most fear is, is it kind
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of concludes with the, the fear of losing your body, the fear of
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dying or the fear of pain. And those are constructs.
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They're, they're not, they're not real.
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There, there is no, there is no, I mean there, there's a reality
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to die and there's a reality to, to pain, but it's not the
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ultimate, it's not what people think it is.
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So if we are creating all this, all this material imagery
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through consciousness, through the collapsing of the, of the
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wave potential and all of that, it doesn't really do us much
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good because we live the life we're living for whatever
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reason. Now, if we act out of fear, it
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can have an impact on, on what does matter to us.
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You know, if if we're always terrified we're going to get
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sucked up when we're actually creating that ourselves, there
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should be No Fear around it. But that you're getting into
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weird stuff. I, I had the pleasure of having,
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I had Gavin de Becker on my podcast a few years ago.
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Most people don't know who he is, but you look him up on
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YouTube, you'll see Ben Rogan a few times and he wrote a very
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interesting book called The Gift of Fear, and he argues that it
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that he argues that that fear is actually something that keeps us
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alive. It, well, it is if, if being
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alive is is your prime directive, it definitely is.
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I mean, we're designed that way. We're designed to fear harm and
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fear losing a limb or if you're losing our life or whatever.
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I mean absolutely, but that may not be reality.
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It it, you know, reality, physical reality, yes, but not
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not true reality. I mean, what is the line from
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Course in Miracles? It's nothing real can be
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threatened. Nothing unreal exists.
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Therein lies the peace of God, which is really kind of grasping
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this whole idea. It's like saying that, that
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nothing, nothing that is truly real, not, not like what we
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think is real, you know, physical reality, but what is
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truly real cannot be threatened. So there's No Fear around it and
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nothing unreal actually exists. It's an illusion.
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It's a creation of, of consciousness in order to
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participate in this physical duality of life where, where we
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have edges like, you know, my body stops here and this phone
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has edges to it. I can pick it up and move it and
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whatever. So therefore the, the quantum
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wave is collapsed through our consciousness so that this is a
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thing. But our bodies are the same way.
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We, we tend to think obviously that our bodies are who we are,
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but they're not. And the, what they truly are
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cannot be threatened because it's the only thing that's real.
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Does that make sense? It's getting a bit of woo.
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Woo. Well, it is very woo woo, but.
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But then who? I mean then who are?
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You, your spirit, you are, you are one.
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I mean, you know, if you, if you follow that, that we're all one,
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we're not a thing, but God or whatever you want to call it is,
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is one thought, one intention 11 whatever.
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What I mean, I, it's, it's hard to say 'cause you usually say
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things and things, you know, that material thing.
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And we are that we're, we're essentially collapsed into being
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with a faith as a human with a body that is kind of universally
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similar and what we call a brain, which is an organ in our
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head. That's it's more like ATV
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receiver than than it is a thing that creates.
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So that's what that's what we physically are on the physical
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earth. And yeah, we have a job to do
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here, I think. I mean, I don't know if it's a
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job or it's just to exist. So we want to, we want to
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maintain this so that we can do that.
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So we don't want to just walk off a Cliff or fall out of a
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window on a 20 story building. We, we don't want to die.
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So the physical self is designed in such a way that we thirst and
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we eat and, you know, we take care of ourselves to some degree
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so that we don't just drop dead because we fear that this will
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go away and therefore we will go away.
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So, you know, that's good. I mean, otherwise everybody will
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be dropped, dropping off, jumping off at cliffs.
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It's it's, you know, why not? But so we're built, we're we're
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built to be fearful of things that will threaten our bodies.
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And I don't know what good it does to go on about that, but,
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well, I mean. So what's interesting there is
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that you, you're correct when you say what, what good is
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there? Because this is what happens
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when you get analysis paralysis and, and it for me, there's,
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there's an overlap. It dovetails with the
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everybody's out to get us narrative.
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I'm not paranoid. Everybody really is out to get
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us. But it doesn't, it's not very
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helpful either. And.
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Well, it depends on define helpful.
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I mean, what do you? Mean.
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Well, let me at some point, Jeff, you have to wake up in the
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morning in the morning and smile.
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Well, yeah, I mean, that's that's kind of the essence of
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it. So you can get up in the morning
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and smile every day if you don't pay attention to any information
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that comes in other than your surrounding, other than what's
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within reach. Like literally, I mean, I'm not
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worrying right now about the car speeding out on the freeway that
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if I stood in front of would kill me.
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I'm not even thinking about that.
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So is that the best place to be? Is is only concern yourself with
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your direct surroundings, your family, your, you know, maybe,
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maybe extend it out a little bit to your community, to your
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neighbors. Certainly you have to extend it
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out far enough to your grocery store if you want to eat, but
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this is this is the essence of living off the grid.
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This is this is what that's all about to find a community that
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can sustain itself, you know, through growing food or whatever
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it might be and is safe enough that the external world, all the
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bullshit that's going on in it is, is not going to affect you.
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Now, you can do that to a degree.
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You can't do it completely because you got chemtrails.
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You got to worry about, you know, there's there's, you can't
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totally protect yourself. And then of course, the
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government doesn't like that. You know, we have a lot of
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examples of things like Ruby Ridge and Waco and stuff like
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that where the government doesn't like the idea that
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people are trying to collect rainwater and crap.
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But I don't know, I mean what that?
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No, I think what I'm getting at is you can have a discussion
25:15
about, let's say, I don't know, a great song from the 80s and
25:19
someone will say to you, that's a distraction, you know, this is
25:23
actual real stuff to talk about. Why are we worried about crap
25:26
like that? Now that's just bread and
25:27
circuses. And I really absolutely hate
25:30
that. Because then just slit your
25:35
wrists, you know, at some, at some point you need to, you need
25:38
to break out of all that pessimism and negativity and you
25:45
need to be able to see, you know, the bunnies and you need
25:48
to be able to see the, the rainbow.
25:52
You know, not everything is a distraction.
25:55
We are designed also to be entertained, even for a short
26:01
while. I think the only thing I agree
26:05
with you 100%, I think the only thing we're designed to do is to
26:09
take care of what we have control over, to take care of
26:13
what's within arm's reach, like what I was just describing.
26:16
I think that's what we were designed to do.
26:18
I don't think we were designed to take in all of this junk that
26:23
we take in now. Some people don't.
26:26
You and I do. So the lesson for you is to stop
26:30
doing what you do for a living, OK?
26:32
Because you, you, that's what you do.
26:34
You take in. But you can balance it.
26:37
You can balance it. You have to balance it.
26:39
I think anybody that tells you something like don't listen to
26:43
that song and don't comment on it because it's not, it's
26:46
surface and it's garbage. You know, I, I think they're the
26:49
ones that have the problem because they, they, they're
26:53
trying to bring you into a state of being like diligent like 100%
26:59
of the time, like 24/7 to concern yourself with what's
27:05
going on outside of your reach, which I don't think it's
27:08
natural. I mean, humans up until very
27:12
recently did not do that at all. They didn't know what the hell
27:16
was going on. They didn't even know what was
27:17
going on five miles away. And, and you know, we're not
27:22
designed to do that. Now, if we do it, if we decide
27:25
to do it, we have to be very careful not to allow it to
27:29
completely occupy our instinctive system, to control
27:34
it. You know, our system is designed
27:38
to control what is around us, to keep us safe and keep our loved
27:42
ones safe. And whatever.
27:44
We have to know that when we start concerning ourselves,
27:46
what's going on in Gaza or in Europe or whatever, we have no
27:50
control over if, if we've chosen to partake in it with the
27:56
information for whatever reason, like do a podcast or to write
28:00
articles or whatever. We have to be very, very careful
28:03
not to allow it to take over that instinctive compulsion to
28:10
manipulate it. And that's what you're doing
28:13
listening to the song and like going, oh, this is a really cool
28:16
song or whatever. You're, you're pulling yourself
28:18
away from that compulsion to control these things you have no
28:22
control over. And that's healthy.
28:25
If you don't do that and you get, you get sucked into this
28:28
insanity where you lay awake at night and think about Putin or
28:33
Trump, even then you're, you're not doing yourself a healthy
28:39
service. You're not taking care of
28:40
yourself because you're not supposed to, because you're not
28:44
designed to try to control things that are not within your
28:50
control. Well, I mean, that's what
28:52
Stephen Kobe wrote about in his fantastic book, The Seven Habits
28:56
of Highly Affected People. If you just, if you just sit in
29:00
doom scroll the whole day long, you become absolutely useless.
29:03
You're not, you're not effective at all.
29:06
And I remember when I was having, I had lunch with Zooby
29:09
last year. You know my show a few times.
29:12
He lives in, in Dubai and I was over there for, for, for a few
29:19
days and he said to me, we're not supposed to consume as much
29:27
media as we do now, not just media information.
29:32
And you, you made the point a moment ago, you said, you know,
29:34
people didn't know what was going on five miles away.
29:38
By the way, I don't, I don't know what, what 5 miles is.
29:40
I'm working kilometers, but I I I assume.
29:44
I assume it's quite false. Sorry.
29:46
It's what? It's not false.
29:48
It's not anything longer than your arm length.
29:53
I don't know, you know, I don't know what the conversion is.
29:56
I also, I don't know, it's like 1.7 or two or something, I don't
29:59
know. Now let's let's say 10
30:01
kilometers away. But I mean, and he's right, you
30:05
know, we aren't, we aren't designed to absorb so much
30:09
information and so much data. I mean, at some point something
30:13
has to break, and that's us. Well, yeah, I mean,
30:18
psychologically, there's no question about that.
30:21
It's like if you look at primal cultures or or ancient cultures,
30:25
it's like anything they didn't understand, they made something
30:28
up about it that that they had some some semblance of control
30:32
over. Like like if you walked out into
30:34
the lake and, or the stream and there was an alligator and it
30:37
ate you, the other people in the tribe would like come up with
30:41
some reason why that happened and something they could
30:45
control. Like they, they didn't worship
30:47
the crocodile God enough. They didn't bring him any
30:50
bananas or whatnot. And so, so they make an
30:53
adjustment to that to, to try to control it.
30:57
And, you know, obviously we don't think today that work.
31:01
We don't know. Maybe it did.
31:04
It's like I, I believe those kinds of things do work.
31:09
It's not a cause and effect materialist machinery mechanism
31:14
that makes it work, but there's something to it.
31:16
And you know, we don't do that as much now, obviously, you
31:22
know, if if something bad happens to me, I I don't
31:25
necessarily believe, although I do somewhere in my core self
31:29
believe that that maybe I wasn't worshipping properly or what
31:34
We're not in alignment with truth or in alignment with
31:38
source, whatever you want to say.
31:41
That's a whole another topic. We could go on forever.
31:44
It's about but but just going back to this control thing.
31:48
Yeah, absolutely. If you, if you bring in more
31:53
information that makes you believe you should control you
31:59
are, you're going to damage yourself psychologically because
32:03
psychologically we're not designed to, to deal with that.
32:06
We certainly are have have certainly learned over time to
32:10
deal with it better than we would have.
32:12
I mean, if you think about grabbing somebody from like the
32:14
1200s, let's say, and dropping them on the freeway in a car,
32:19
they would probably lose their mind very, very quickly, like
32:23
literally, you know, because they couldn't deal with it.
32:27
They couldn't deal with all of the things flying around them
32:29
that we do deal with. I just wrote an article about
32:32
denial, which is kind of touching on this, that we, yeah,
32:36
we do have a natural sense of, of denial in order to to
32:41
accommodate the information that that we received that we have no
32:45
control over. Like if we're in a car, in an
32:47
airplane or whatever, there, there has to be something that
32:50
that comes into place that essentially ignores the reality
32:54
of the situation and then ignores our instinctive response
32:59
to it that that was built in to us.
33:03
And that's what this healthy denial is.
33:06
And we're seeing it now where we see we we get too much
33:10
information. I mean, we shouldn't have the
33:12
information at our fingertips that we have with all of this,
33:16
what's going on in the world, what's even going on in our own
33:19
cities, you know, with, with all the horrors, with murder,
33:25
pedophilia, what whatever it might be, this whole Epstein
33:28
thing. I mean, it's, it's like that
33:30
information. Yes, you can argue it the other
33:33
way around. Or if we didn't have the
33:35
information, we would never be able to do anything, anything
33:38
about it. And there is something we can do
33:40
about it to some degree. We can insist that people be be
33:44
brought up on charges. We can insist that people, you
33:48
know, have a better, healthier standard of, of living, the
33:53
people that have control that, that actually the authorities,
33:57
the politicians and whatever. So in that sense, it's a good
34:01
thing. I'm not saying that we should
34:02
just be ignorance this bliss and just live through our lives with
34:05
absolutely no information input. I think it's kind of getting to
34:09
that point though. I, I don't know.
34:12
I mean, it almost feels like though well.
34:14
Yes, I think so too, because. Yeah.
34:16
Even people in my circles go, Nah, I'm tuning out, I've had
34:21
enough. It's too much.
34:23
And that's that's the counterbalance.
34:25
That's right. That's right.
34:27
Or if you do, or if you don't counter that much, you you, you.
34:31
Do. What I do, you listen to songs
34:35
or watch a movie or something and then when then when someone
34:38
says, ah, but you know, that's, that's a distraction.
34:41
Yes, that's exactly correct. It is a distraction, and that's
34:44
what I want because if I don't have that distraction, I might
34:48
end up on antidepressants or taking pills or something.
34:51
You have to counterbalance that huge amount of information
34:56
that's flowing into US every day.
34:58
You, you can, if you, if you choose to be a human being, you
35:03
know you can if you want to devote your life and everything
35:07
there is about you to the cause to be a soldier for the cause.
35:12
Like you think just just metaphorically, all of the men
35:15
that went to war, that went on crusades throughout history,
35:20
they essentially gave up their life and and were ready to
35:24
literally die for what they were doing.
35:26
I mean even as recent as well going on right now, I mean a war
35:31
in like in Europe. But it's like.
35:37
Well, no, no, not everybody's the same.
35:39
Not everybody chooses that. Some people are forced into it,
35:42
obviously, but not everybody chooses that and and to bring it
35:46
back from, you know, from a war situation to say like what we
35:50
do, I know of what I do. It's like I believe as weird as
35:56
as this is going to say, I believe I am answering a
35:59
calling. I believe that the purpose in my
36:02
life at this time in my life is to engage myself, not to the
36:07
point where I psychologically burnout, but to a point where I
36:11
do focus on it. And my wife doesn't want me to.
36:14
I mean, she like says, why are you doing this?
36:16
Why are you looking for all of this?
36:18
And I go, I don't know, it's just what I do.
36:21
It's just what I'm driven to do. Maybe one day that'll change and
36:27
I won't be driven to do it anymore.
36:28
I'll be driven to go sit on a beach somewhere until I expire
36:33
and then I'll be fine, you know. But I, I do think if you engaged
36:37
in it, and again, without fear, I think fear is the key thing
36:41
that causes the problem. I mean, psychologically, we're
36:45
designed not to take in this kind of information.
36:47
We need a break from it. But aside from that, you know, I
36:52
mean, I always think about Rachel's line and the Bible
36:55
where she goes out and I can't remember the details of it, but
36:58
she goes out to battle and her line is if I perish, I perish
37:03
that it's like, OK, I'm not afraid of this.
37:06
I'm not afraid of perishing for this, 'cause if I do, I do.
37:10
If I don't, I don't, great, but I don't care.
37:13
I don't think everybody has to be that way by any means.
37:16
I don't think this guy telling me not to listen to songs, you
37:19
know, that it's a distraction. It's like that's his choice or.
37:23
Her choice and then and then. The best is Yeah, but dude, all
37:27
right, I get it. You you need you need to have a
37:30
distraction, but don't watch movies, you know, go for a walk.
37:33
Well, how about don't you prescribe to me?
37:36
Yeah. Well, that's a projection.
37:40
Yeah, he's, I mean, I don't know the guy or anything.
37:43
I do. I live, I live in Africa.
37:45
I go for a lot of walks. We have a lot of sunshine here,
37:49
we have a lot of broken infrastructure and we have many
37:52
opportunities to go into nature. Don't worry about that.
37:55
You, you don't have. You don't have to tell me to go
37:57
outside. Right, right.
38:00
No, it's like anytime anybody's telling you what they think you
38:04
should do, that's that's a projection of their own, their
38:07
own inadequacies or in psychological holes and
38:12
whatever. I mean it, it almost, I mean, we
38:14
all do it. I mean, I'm not criticizing
38:15
anybody that does it. It's, it's like anytime we think
38:19
we know what's best for somebody, even with it's obvious
38:22
stuff, if I mean, you can inform people, you can say, hey, I read
38:27
an article that said, you know, looking at movies is, is not as
38:31
good as going out for a while. I mean, you can, you can do
38:33
that. But anytime you start projecting
38:35
onto them, you're not doing the right thing.
38:37
And I know what the right thing is.
38:38
And this is what it is. You're, you're dealing with
38:42
projections that not, not anything really constructive.
38:47
It's more about them and their in inability to kind of
38:51
integrate their own, whatever it is, you know?
38:57
And This is why I think it's so important to always focus first,
39:05
inwardly before outwardly. You can't win any wars if you
39:13
only focus outwardly. No, no, no, you're right.
39:23
You're right. But I did tell me what you mean
39:25
by wars though. Like information.
39:27
Wars. Then how do you how do you solve
39:32
that inwardly? Well, how can I think clearly if
39:40
I am eating badly, sleeping badly, fighting with my wife all
39:47
day long so that I'm perpetually angry?
39:51
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, that's what I thought.
39:53
Well, I wasn't even sure that's what you meant, but that
39:55
absolutely 100%. I mean, you can't the, the
39:59
structure of of your system is or it is dependent on the
40:05
structure of your system to do anything in the world.
40:09
And you know, you don't count anymore.
40:11
You're not allowed to. To to, to be like Rachel.
40:15
You, you can't go out and conquer the beast anymore.
40:19
You're, you're not allowed to do that.
40:20
You have a family and you've. Got to choose your battles.
40:25
Well, you don't have that choice.
40:26
Your your number one priority is your son and and if you get any
40:31
more of them. Come and my wife.
40:34
Well, not, not as much, but yes, if you choose that, but you
40:40
know, again, a a partner is, is autonomous.
40:44
They're independent to some degree.
40:46
I mean, certainly your structure of your relationship is, is you
40:49
know, you can, you can decide that that's your position and
40:53
whatever and that's fine. But but in reality, it's not the
40:58
same as having a dependent. You have a dependent being that
41:02
their their health and and their survival is dependent on you.
41:10
So you know, you can you can do what you do to some degree,
41:14
obviously, because you do have to take care of yourself to to
41:16
some point. But if there's ever a choice,
41:20
you know, you don't, you don't have that choice, I don't think.
41:23
I mean, that's my opinion. It's a shit but, but I think
41:27
archetypally, yeah. Yeah, I mean, This is why I get
41:29
frustrated when people criticize.
41:34
Let's say I do a few episodes on diet.
41:39
You know when, when there's a war going on in the Middle East,
41:44
you know, how can you be talking about about steaks?
41:47
But I talk about steaks because AI will say I'm human #1 and I
41:53
enjoy eating. I don't mind you, but I enjoy
41:55
eating. It's, it's a part of Help me.
41:59
It's, it's a part of being alive.
42:02
And also I want to eat in the best way possible so that as I
42:06
just said a moment ago, so I can think in the best way possible.
42:11
You have to cost a wide net if you want to put all the puzzle
42:16
pieces together. Well, absolutely.
42:20
I mean you. You are a material being.
42:23
And a material being requires certain care in order to
42:27
maintain its its its existence. I mean, both physiologically and
42:34
mentally and emotionally and spiritually.
42:37
I believe so, yeah. You, you have to keep your just
42:41
like a warrior has to keep up his body or he'll he'll be
42:44
splashed apart immediately. Well, I mean, the truth is, the
42:50
truth is, Todd, that we are living in a material world and I
42:55
am a Material Girl. Oh boy.
42:58
Well, you're a girl now, aren't you?
43:00
Didn't you transform? You transitioned.
43:05
I identify you. Can't tell the difference
43:07
anymore. They all look the same and it's
43:11
a whole point and then get everybody to look the same.
43:15
This is the this is the thing. This is the thing life is a this
43:19
is this is the beautiful horseshoe to something we said
43:22
at the beginning, right? Complex systems.
43:26
You can't be a 1 trick pony and think you're going to win
43:29
information wars. No, you know, going back to that
43:36
projection idea, it's, it's like, it's one thing, like let's
43:40
say somebody decides to know nothing about anything other
43:45
than what's going on in their block or in their neighborhood.
43:49
They don't want to know anything about the world, Nothing.
43:52
And then you have somebody else. That's fine.
43:55
See, you just said it. That's fine.
43:59
And the problem comes in when somebody else comes along that's
44:03
not doing that and points a finger at them and says you
44:06
can't be like this, you can't do this.
44:10
The same goes reversed. And this is where you know, and
44:14
you've read my writing. I use the sheep and true thing
44:17
all the time and I get in a lot of trouble for it.
44:19
This idea, the sheep, my problem with sheep is not so much that
44:24
they're sheep and they're following the tail in front of
44:27
them, it's that they're not aware of the truth.
44:30
That's one thing. The other is that they come
44:32
after me for not being a sheep. That's where the problem is.
44:38
And I don't come after them for being a sheep.
44:42
I mean, I, I do on a broad sense, I think that that the
44:47
more ignorant people are, the more problem there is in the
44:51
world. Because obviously a lot of our
44:53
problems would be solved if people were thinking and were
44:56
aware. But that's as a group, as
44:58
individuals. I have a lot of sheep around me
45:00
and my family and whatever that I adore, I love them.
45:04
I would never their sheepness doesn't change my love for them
45:09
as my friends and my family. It does for them though, which
45:14
which is the part that I just lose it over.
45:16
And OK, so yeah, I got a problem there.
45:20
But, you know, this idea that that that the love for me and
45:24
the care for me as a person is, is predicated on whether I
45:29
believe certain things or not or believe certain things about how
45:33
I live my life or what's important to me or whatever.
45:37
And I think there's certain levels of that that are
45:39
unnatural. I think it's unnatural to be a
45:41
serial killer or it's unnatural to be a pedophile or whatever.
45:44
And I can see people making judgments based on those things,
45:50
but not on whether I support Trump, which I don't, but
45:54
whether I support him or not, things like that or not even
45:58
support him, but just not say black and white, everything he
46:01
does is evil. I don't do that.
46:05
And yet I'm judged for that. And I think that's one of the
46:10
major differences between people that thinks they like.
46:13
And I'm assuming you think the same way because of what you're
46:15
saying here, but think this particular way that it's like,
46:19
as long as you're not interfering directly with me and
46:24
my life and my family, I'm not going to oppose what you do or
46:30
think. And.
46:34
Yes, yes, I think. Yes, I think the.
46:38
Law. Well, I shouldn't I?
46:39
I said that wrong. I don't mean oppose what you do
46:41
or think, but oppose you as a. Yeah, I, I largely agree with
46:45
that. I mean, I think that is probably
46:48
the core sort of anarchist libertarian position.
46:52
It's you know, it's it's the what do they call it the non
46:57
violence approach or something like that?
46:59
Yeah, I don't know where it's basically you do you and I and
47:04
I'll do me kind of thing. Right.
47:07
But reality isn't like that though, because what you do does
47:12
sometimes affect me. You know, like for example, if
47:14
you if you pee into a stream. No, that doesn't.
47:19
That example doesn't work because because they do.
47:22
That all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too.
47:27
You mean downstream somebody drinking the water you peed in?
47:31
Yeah, I don't suppose that's a very good example.
47:33
OK, I can't think of an example but.
47:36
But that's let's just stay with that for just a second.
47:38
Yeah, you're absolutely right. You should go up to that person
47:41
and say, you know what? I drink the water here.
47:42
You're peeing in it. You got to stop doing that.
47:44
That doesn't mean I hate them. It doesn't mean I'm going to
47:47
kill them. I think what I'm I mean I might
47:50
kill them. Sure.
47:52
I'm what? I'm.
47:53
Getting I'm getting at the. What I'm getting at is the
47:57
butterfly effect. I think that our actions can
48:00
create consequences that we aren't aware of.
48:09
Yeah, I mean again. And maybe I I was stupid or
48:16
didn't make it clear. Whatever I I'm really talking
48:18
more about, I mean, look at war. The the purpose of war is to
48:24
kill people that represent a country that isn't doing right
48:30
by the other country that's trying to kill the people in the
48:33
country. And it's like, yeah, OK, well,
48:37
there could be really good reason why you want that other
48:41
country to do the right thing, not to pee in the stream or, or
48:44
whatever it might be, but you're killing people in order to
48:50
accomplish that, in order to show you're more powerful and
48:53
you could kill everybody. And I mean, that's a that's a
48:56
loose analogy, but it's it's like what I'm saying is that
48:59
yes, people can think and do the wrong thing, but you don't hate
49:06
them for it. You dislike what they're doing
49:09
and you want to change what they're doing.
49:11
They're doing unless they're totally outside of the realm of,
49:14
of human decency. And that's where you can get
49:16
into a lot of argument and you know, well, this isn't decent
49:21
what they're doing, so they should be dead, you know,
49:23
whatever. But I think, I think you're
49:25
saying the same thing. I mean, I, I think you're,
49:28
you're going into the problem of, no, you shouldn't
49:31
necessarily be fine with, with what people are doing or how
49:36
people think or whatever, but it doesn't mean you, you can't love
49:39
them. And I know, you know, if you
49:42
don't know them well, it's like, who gives a shit if they're from
49:44
the tribe next door 10 kilometers away, you know, just
49:49
go in war with them and kill them all and then you don't have
49:51
a problem anymore. I mean, that's how it's been
49:53
done for millennia. But I know what I'm saying is a
49:58
bit idealistic, but I'm really using more examples of people I
50:01
know, not the tribe down the street, but the people that I
50:05
know and that I love, people in my family, people that are
50:09
friends I've had for, I mean, I've told you this a million
50:11
times. I've had a whole handful of
50:14
friends, like very close friends who have completely rejected me.
50:18
And because of the COVID thing during that time five years ago.
50:22
And I have two of them. I always cite and say they
50:25
actually wrote to me on Facebook and said, I hope you get COVID
50:28
and die. Literally said that to me.
50:30
Now, whether they really meant it or not, I don't know.
50:33
But you don't say that to somebody.
50:35
And my views on the on taking a drug in my arm, who cares what I
50:43
think about that? Now, of course, the agenda has
50:46
tried to put it in everybody's minds that anybody that doesn't
50:49
take the vaccine is just the same as somebody who wants to
50:52
rape you or come into your house and kill your grandmother or
50:56
whatever it might be. That they're one and the same
50:58
thing and that's where you like go.
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What is it with you? Why do you think that way?
51:03
Why is it more important to you to be the person that cares for
51:08
me and loves me as a friend or whatever?
51:11
That it's more important that you follow some vaporous idea
51:16
that the government has that if you don't do this, everybody on
51:21
Earth is going to drop dead. And that's what we were fed.
51:24
And that obviously isn't true. And of course, nobody turns
51:27
around and goes, Gee, that didn't happen.
51:30
I mean, it's like. All of us that didn't get get.
51:32
Vaccinated. We should be dead and we should
51:35
have killed a lot of people in the process, according to what
51:39
we were told, and that didn't happen.
51:42
But nobody's coming. Back to me that I'd lost his
51:44
friends and say no, Gee, you know I wasn't quite right.
51:47
I'm sorry about that anyway. I know that's all old news, but.
51:54
No. Well, I mean, it'll always be.
51:55
Relevant because there. Are always people dying
51:58
suddenly? Of what?
52:02
Playing tennis. Oh OK, yeah, or taking the dog
52:07
for a walk. Yep.
52:14
Or chemtrails. Definitely chemtrails.
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I saw a guy the other day. Sucking in the dust.
52:22
Coming out of an airplane and he dropped dead, No.
52:27
That that was anti China. Propaganda, right?
52:31
We've got a lot. Of that going on, of course
52:33
they, they brainwashed you when you were over there.
52:36
They did all those Chinese people.
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Listen, I want to go back there have.
52:40
You must go to. Shanghai, it is an incredible
52:42
city. Oh, I'd love to, yeah.
52:45
It is now now. That I'm part.
52:47
Chinese living in Canada. You know, this is an interesting
52:51
point, I think. Most of the world is part
52:53
Chinese now of. Course, why not?
53:03
No, listen, it's it's. A beautiful city.
53:04
It's a it's a mega city. So you have to understand that
53:07
you're going to make the comparisons, you know, you know,
53:10
you can't compare it to like going to, I don't know, Iceland
53:13
or Siberia or something. But you, you go there to
53:17
experience an incredible city, I suspect.
53:21
I suspect your side of the world has a few great cities too.
53:25
I don't know, I. I don't really have.
53:27
Much desire to go to Canada. Canada used to be, well, the the
53:33
problem with. Canada now is the political part
53:36
of it, of course. And and again the brainwashing.
53:39
I mean, it's like it, it seems like nobody can get away from
53:42
that as as a mass of people. It's like, so that's a problem.
53:48
But you know, Canadians in Canada itself has always been
53:51
Canada's had a really incredible position because they're
53:56
essentially taking care of militarily and everything by the
53:59
United States that they've had the opportunity to really grow
54:04
and evolve only only from kind of an idealistic utopian almost
54:09
state. And so they, they, they reflect
54:13
that. I mean, they're good people,
54:15
they're loving, they're caring. And that's the stereotype
54:20
they've been labeled as well, but it's true.
54:24
And so they're also very, you know, they're very sheep like
54:28
they can be manipulated relatively easily.
54:32
And so we're seeing this hate Trump thing.
54:34
And again, going back to Trump, I mean, he's definitely been
54:37
labeled as the thing to hate. Anything that goes wrong, it's
54:40
his fault and rather than take responsibility for it yourself
54:46
and deal with it is what it actually is.
54:49
Even even if you can be sure that Trump is nuts and and
54:53
selfish and all of those things, you can still deal with what's
54:56
going on without focusing your people to hate the United States
55:02
because Trump in particular, but the United States in general.
55:05
I I went back to Virginia for a week a while back.
55:09
And when I came back, well, even when I went, there was only two
55:12
cars in front of me at the border.
55:14
And when I came back into Canada, the entire border with
55:18
like 20 or so booths, immigration booths to go through
55:22
a huge parking lot was totally empty.
55:25
There wasn't a single person there.
55:27
And that's the way Canadians fight back.
55:32
Yeah, Stupid ways that don't have any any influence at all.
55:39
What's the population? Of Canada, I don't know.
55:43
I think it's like 36 million. Something like that I think.
55:47
I don't know, I could be totally wrong.
55:49
Could be 10 times I I always. Have in my head it's like 36. 37
55:55
million you should have AI. Right there and ask it.
56:00
No, I won't. I won't type.
56:01
It in now. We're coming in for the for the
56:04
final lap anyway, so I'll go I'll go with your I'll go with
56:09
your your figures. OK, we.
56:13
We really have chatted. About lots and nothing.
56:17
That's right, the. Classic spitballing, but then.
56:22
But then we have to horseshoe. Back just to just to neaten
56:26
everything up, we started off talking about chemtrails and I
56:31
think there is a psychological aspect to that and I was
56:37
thinking about this actually the other day that.
56:43
Some folks with whom I. Interact will simply reject
56:49
anything and everything that is considered mainstream, and if
56:54
you accept anything that's mainstream, you're a normie.
56:58
And I find that a false dichotomy.
57:02
I think it's a trap because not everything again is that binary.
57:10
I think you're hitting on probably one of the most.
57:13
Important things to be talked about and I think that's one
57:16
reason why I like you so much because I feel very isolated in
57:21
being that way that what you're what you're presenting here and
57:27
of course on the on the I'm sorry folks, I apologize that
57:31
people are offended by me using the word sheep.
57:33
It's just a word to kind of talk about dichotomies to, to show a,
57:39
a different mindset. Not everybody that's in it is
57:42
100% in it. I, I realize that.
57:44
And, and I mean, what you're saying is that you do.
57:47
Need people who have a herd like mindset also.
57:51
You do need them, yes. I.
57:55
I I think so. I think for for an idealistic
57:58
culture to function well, you have to have an uncorrupt no.
58:03
But I mean, imagine, imagine. Yeah, imagine.
58:06
You're in a village. And everybody is this sort of
58:09
anarchist, non sheep type person and there's there's this huge
58:12
fire and and they don't know about it yet.
58:15
And you go in saying, guys, there's a huge fire come out.
58:19
Now what you do want is a herd like mindset.
58:21
You want everybody to come out of the village.
58:24
But if all of them are ladies, sort of like up yours, I'm not
58:27
listening to you. Who are you to tell me what to
58:29
do? And then they all burn.
58:34
There you go, you got rid of them.
58:37
No, absolutely. But see, there's an there's an
58:40
there's an assumption there that's that's vital.
58:42
The assumption is, is that the people that are the leaders of a
58:47
group of sheep are benevolent and and care about people.
58:51
Sure, there's going to be Gray areas and everything, but that
58:55
actually have a heart and care about people.
58:58
I don't think that's universally true.
59:01
I, I do think there's some politicians and whatever that
59:04
actually do care about people. I'm not, I'm not doing what
59:07
you're what you're saying. That's that's a problem.
59:10
I'm not saying everybody, you know, but but most of them seem
59:15
to be, I never used to believe this until recently, but most of
59:19
them seem to have their own agenda now.
59:21
Their agenda may be in their mind, benevolent.
59:26
And this is something that, that our side doesn't like to think
59:29
about. I mean, the New World Order and
59:31
whatever they, they may have the right idea about keeping as many
59:35
people alive that are working, that are, that are contributors
59:40
to this culture and society and all of that.
59:43
They, they may truly believe that this is the way to go.
59:46
And it never has been. I mean, human beings don't work
59:49
that way. They don't work in a utopian
59:51
setting. I mean, communism has proven
59:54
that. I mean, that was their ideal.
59:56
You know, I've read a lot of Lennon's work and Lennon when he
59:59
first started out and marks the same way.
1:00:01
I mean, they had a benevolent idea about how culture should be
1:00:04
run. And it is a good idea, but it
1:00:07
doesn't work and. It's been proven.
1:00:11
Again and again and again that it doesn't.
1:00:13
So no matter how much they like to strut around saying that
1:00:16
we're doing this for the good of the people, that just isn't
1:00:20
human nature. It's never worked that way.
1:00:23
And so. OK, Todd.
1:00:28
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1:00:32
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is the little animal with the long nose and long story, but I
1:00:44
got hundreds of articles there so we'd love to see you there.
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A lot of discussion and stuff, so it's a nice one.
1:00:52
Speaking of Shrew I. I think I told you.
1:00:57
This long time ago. So we go to the Kruger National
1:01:01
Park at least once a year. It's I've often argued it's
1:01:06
probably one of the best places in the world.
1:01:08
Huge game park about the size of Israel and it's famous obviously
1:01:14
for having the big 5, but now the average person doesn't know
1:01:17
what the big 5 is, but it's it's the elephant, Buffalo, lion,
1:01:23
leopard and rhino and and this. And there's a wonderful.
1:01:28
Story behind how those 5 animals became known as the Big 5.
1:01:33
I can also tell you that if you're interested, and we also
1:01:38
have what's known as the. Little 5 and.
1:01:41
This is more of a of an unofficial kind of it's more of
1:01:46
a it's more of a trope, but but it's but it's nonetheless
1:01:49
something that exists and a shrew is considered 1 of what
1:01:54
that actually more specifically the elephant shrew, right.
1:01:58
Well, that's the one. That's the one we're.
1:02:00
Always talking and he's considered one of the little 5.
1:02:03
Cool. Well.
1:02:04
There you go. Yeah, he's a he's a feisty
1:02:07
little guy, I think. I think there's a rhino beetle
1:02:09
or something like that. Which which is also part of I'm
1:02:12
actually I can't remember the the little 5, but they they're
1:02:15
basically the miniatures of the big.
1:02:18
Do they each have a correlation with the big 5 like the?
1:02:21
Elephant. True.
1:02:22
And the elephant and the rhino. Beetle and the rhino.
1:02:24
OK, that's great. Yeah.
1:02:26
Oh, that's cool. Well, shrews are known.
1:02:29
Shrews are known for for being very vicious toward animals 1000
1:02:34
times their size. Like they'll jump up and bite
1:02:36
the nose of a dog and stuff like that.
1:02:40
That was a long story. I was actually.
1:02:42
Under playing it a little bit, but.
1:02:43
When we were at the. Kruger National Park, I think
1:02:45
the last time or the second last time, I can't remember, there
1:02:49
was a tour group and we went and and spoke to them.
1:02:52
They were just, they just happened to be nearby and asked
1:02:55
him, you know, are they, are they going to go try and find
1:02:57
the big 5? And they said no, no, no, no,
1:03:00
no, no. We're actually here to find the
1:03:02
little 50. That's funny, That's funny.
1:03:04
So that's cool. So I can only imagine how slowly
1:03:10
you must be driving through the park because you've got to be
1:03:12
looking down at the grounds or walking.
1:03:16
You're not going to find it. You can't really walk then.
1:03:18
You can't really walk there. Oh, you can't.
1:03:20
Well, no, I mean, well, you can. But do you want to walk?
1:03:23
With where there are leopards and lions, that's right, maybe,
1:03:28
depending. Depending on your intentions,
1:03:32
yeah. Cool.
1:03:33
I taught her in. Thank you for doing intentions.