Latest / Chuck Douglas / Aliens and your calls
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Got a couple of messages here during the bank basically
- 0:02Speaker 1: people just saying, are you do you really believe in
- 0:04Speaker 1: aliens and alien life and all that kind of stuff. Yes,
- 0:07Speaker 1: I do, not obsessed with it, but yes I do.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Why why would you not? I mean, that's something that
- 0:16Speaker 1: I've always I've always wondered about people who I mean,
- 0:20Speaker 1: I can understand you saying, oh, I don't believe alien abductions,
- 0:23Speaker 1: they're not coming here, and I can understand you being
- 0:26Speaker 1: skeptical about that stuff. But people that are so definitive
- 0:29Speaker 1: about their belief that there is no life on any
- 0:32Speaker 1: other planet inside or outside of our own galaxy, They're
- 0:36Speaker 1: they're steadfast, can't be There's no possible way. I just
- 0:41Speaker 1: I wonder what convinces you of that. My mind is
- 0:45Speaker 1: open to it. I believe it's pretty likely. But some
- 0:53Speaker 1: people will look at you when you say that and think, well,
- 0:55Speaker 1: you're just your nuts. If you believe that, you're just
- 1:00Speaker 1: you're crazy. Well, my question back to you is what
- 1:02Speaker 1: makes you so absolutely sure that there's not? I think
- 1:08Speaker 1: your your determination to be right about your point is
- 1:13Speaker 1: harder to understand than mine to be open to points.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Or again, maybe that's just me many things are A
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- 1:22Speaker 1: in Chuck, thanks for hanging on. You're on the Legacy
- 1:24Speaker 1: Retirement Group dot com phone lines.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for taking my call, Chuck. So, one of
- 1:30Speaker 2: the most important quote unquote inventions of the nineteen hundreds
- 1:37Speaker 2: was the transistor. Yes, and oddly enough, the transistor came
- 1:44Speaker 2: into being about six months after the Roswell crash.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Right here in central Ohio with Belle Lebs now known
- 1:51Speaker 1: as Bettel right.
- 1:53Speaker 2: And I was I looked into this a little bit,
- 1:55Speaker 2: and no one was really working on it just sort
- 1:58Speaker 2: of popped up. Now, the other point I wanted to
- 2:02Speaker 2: make you know, throughout the history of the world, there
- 2:08Speaker 2: have been millions of people who have reportedly seen and
- 2:13Speaker 2: had contact with some kind of life form not of
- 2:18Speaker 2: this earth. So if one of them is telling the
- 2:24Speaker 2: truth and accurately recounting what happened to them, just one,
- 2:31Speaker 2: it's real.
- 2:33Speaker 1: That's all you need is the one that is all
- 2:36Speaker 1: you need is and I just you know again, I Chuck,
- 2:38Speaker 1: I know there's crazies out there. Every time I wash
- 2:41Speaker 1: my dishes, alien comes out of the sink and sucks
- 2:44Speaker 1: me down into the bales of hades.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Yeah, you're nuts, and I might be one of the crazies,
- 2:49Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.
- 2:50Speaker 1: All there you go. Every now and then, even a
- 2:53Speaker 1: blind squirrel finds a nut, as they say, I appreciate you, buddy,
- 2:57Speaker 1: thanks very much for the call. And he's exactly right
- 2:59Speaker 1: with the you know, the many reports that come in
- 3:02Speaker 1: from around the world, if only one is accurate, well,
- 3:08Speaker 1: there you go. That's all you need. That is all
- 3:11Speaker 1: you need. And my question, by the way, is sincere
- 3:14Speaker 1: for the for people that think I'm nuts for saying
- 3:15Speaker 1: that I believe there could be very well life in
- 3:18Speaker 1: other places, My question to you is, sincere, how are
- 3:21Speaker 1: you so adamant in your belief that it's not possible?
- 3:28Speaker 1: That is a valid question. A two one nine eight
- 3:30Speaker 1: eighty six. ED, you are on six ten do w
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- 3:32Speaker 3: At night with all the stars that are billions of
- 3:36Speaker 3: ears older than ours, plus the galaxies too, Why would
- 3:40Speaker 3: you know what's the odds of there never be any
- 3:43Speaker 3: life anywhere else?
- 3:45Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 3:45Speaker 3: I call that pretty.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Minimal, absolutely, I And you know what we call life, ed.
- 3:50Speaker 1: We know we breathe in this uh, this mixture of
- 3:53Speaker 1: hydrogen and oxygen and that's our standard on this planet.
- 3:58Speaker 1: That is what we know. Life does not have to
- 4:01Speaker 1: be like us everywhere. Just because we eat this and
- 4:04Speaker 1: we drink this does not mean that anything alive does
- 4:07Speaker 1: the same.
- 4:08Speaker 3: And people, uh, they've got they've got stuff growing on
- 4:11Speaker 3: the outside of the space station. How does that happen?
- 4:15Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that there's vegetation on the outside
- 4:18Speaker 1: of the space station.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Oh they got some kind of stuff growing up out there.
- 4:23Speaker 3: E both all that radiation and everything seems that, yeah,
- 4:27Speaker 3: seems to thrive in it.
- 4:29Speaker 1: So that is interesting. I appreciate it. Thank you, Zach.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Can you do your googling stuff and see if you
- 4:35Speaker 1: can find any kind of any kind of legitimate stories
- 4:39Speaker 1: regarding something growing on the outside of the space station,
- 4:41Speaker 1: because that's I mean in space. A not inside of
- 4:47Speaker 1: a space station in a controlled environment, but in space
- 4:50Speaker 1: what we know to be vegetation shouldn't grow. It needs soil,
- 4:57Speaker 1: it needs nutrients, it needs sunlight. Photosynthesis isn't going to
- 5:02Speaker 1: occur for you know, a seed that's laying on a
- 5:05Speaker 1: piece of metal in the vastness of space. I can't
- 5:10Speaker 1: believe that. Do you know anything about that?
- 5:12Speaker 4: I'm looking at it's gonna take a minute, because they
- 5:14Speaker 4: have stuff that grows on, like in the space station
- 5:17Speaker 4: with with light that they brought up and all that stuff.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see, you know, having a chia pet
- 5:22Speaker 1: or something inside the space do Yeah, I'm looking for
- 5:25Speaker 1: the outside. Okay, just because I've not heard anything about that.
- 5:31Speaker 1: And I've also had you know, because I'm pretty open about,
- 5:34Speaker 1: you know, my faith, and I am not what what
- 5:38Speaker 1: Dad would have called a thumper, but I believe in
- 5:42Speaker 1: my higher power and I take that believe very seriously.
- 5:45Speaker 1: And I've had that question people say, how can how
- 5:47Speaker 1: can you believe in God and read a Bible and
- 5:50Speaker 1: believe that there's ay? And that doesn't make sense? Why?
- 5:56Speaker 1: Why what I believe in isn't all knowing, all seeing
- 5:59Speaker 1: it at all, beginning and end, all powerful being who
- 6:05Speaker 1: would not, under any circumstances find himself content with just us.
- 6:13Speaker 1: When you have the vastness of everything in your control
- 6:18Speaker 1: in your sight, would we be it for you? If
- 6:23Speaker 1: you were doing I mean, we are created in His image.
- 6:25Speaker 1: If you believe that that is the case. Now, if
- 6:29Speaker 1: it were you in His image, would you be done?
- 6:33Speaker 1: One rock in the Solar system throws some life forms
- 6:36Speaker 1: on there. Okay, I'm done. No, of course not. Well,
- 6:42Speaker 1: the Bible doesn't mention Our Bible doesn't mention it. My gosh,
- 6:47Speaker 1: the arrogance just because our Bible on this planet, for
- 6:53Speaker 1: this group of beings that we call humans, that's ours.
- 6:59Speaker 1: What what's out there in the galaxy, for goodness sake,
- 7:02Speaker 1: out there in the universe doesn't have to be the same.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Maybe they have their own, wouldn't you think Again, it's
- 7:17Speaker 1: a legitimate conversation. It's got nothing to do with faith.
- 7:20Speaker 1: It's got to do with with possibility, and I think
- 7:23Speaker 1: open mindedness. And when somebody attached to these things just disappears.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And it's not leading every newscast a high ranking member
- 7:36Speaker 1: of our United States military. It's not a headline on
- 7:39Speaker 1: every newscast that that gives me reason to be even
- 7:44Speaker 1: more curious. A two one w TV and is a
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- 7:51Speaker 4: Oh, hey, Chuck, Actually it's it's a bill.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. I when when Zach spells things there,
- 7:59Speaker 1: they're always different what I'm reading.
- 8:03Speaker 4: Here's why I think it's highly unlikely that there is
- 8:07Speaker 4: intelligent life anywhere else in the universe. First of all,
- 8:11Speaker 4: what we have to acknowledge that they would have the
- 8:14Speaker 4: same creator that we had or have, and that they,
- 8:19Speaker 4: like us, would be imperfect and flawed, and they, like us,
- 8:25Speaker 4: would require such a sacrifice as Jesus' sacrificed, you know,
- 8:32Speaker 4: dying on the cross, going to Hell for three days,
- 8:35Speaker 4: and being risen from the dead in order to provide
- 8:40Speaker 4: a path to salvation for us and for them also,
- 8:45Speaker 4: I mean, how many times is God going to have
- 8:48Speaker 4: his son go through that to save how many other
- 8:55Speaker 4: universe you know, how many other peoples on how many
- 8:58Speaker 4: other planets? Thinking it's a one and done deal. I mean,
- 9:02Speaker 4: he wouldn't put his son through that.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Well, you're assuming the same story. You're assuming the same
- 9:08Speaker 1: storyline for every planet. I mean, who says that there
- 9:10Speaker 1: was a garden of Eva eating and Adam and Eve
- 9:13Speaker 1: on every planet? That is not necessarily the case. Maybe maybe,
- 9:18Speaker 1: you know, after us, there were others. We don't have
- 9:21Speaker 1: to be the end. Maybe after us others.
- 9:24Speaker 4: Really I have to argue that anybody else created by
- 9:30Speaker 4: God would be just as imperfect and flawed as we are.
- 9:35Speaker 1: You know, do you think let me ask and this
- 9:37Speaker 1: is sincere question. Now, Bill, do you think the God
- 9:40Speaker 1: that we believe in, at least I believe in, do
- 9:42Speaker 1: you think he is capable of creating perfect if he
- 9:45Speaker 1: wants to.
- 9:48Speaker 4: He's capable of doing anything he.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Will exactly exactly. So is it not possible that he
- 9:54Speaker 1: created a planet of perfect being, something to give him
- 9:57Speaker 1: joy without giving him the pain of our imperfections and our.
- 10:01Speaker 4: Well Given that we have free will, it would seem
- 10:06Speaker 4: appropriate that they would also have free will. And you know,
- 10:14Speaker 4: free will is what gets us into trouble, and they
- 10:20Speaker 4: would most certainly have had their own Adam and Eve.
- 10:23Speaker 4: They would have had to start beginning somewhere, I would imagine.
- 10:27Speaker 1: And I don't know, Chuck, I got you, and I
- 10:31Speaker 1: believe me. I'm not being argumentative or trying to paint
- 10:34Speaker 1: you into a corner at all. But this is I've
- 10:36Speaker 1: had this argument with myself many, many times, because it's
- 10:39Speaker 1: something we all do, including me, every every televangelist does it,
- 10:43Speaker 1: every small church preacher does it. We try, with our
- 10:47Speaker 1: puny little minds to understand the mind of something we
- 10:51Speaker 1: call God, and we can't. We can guess, we can,
- 10:55Speaker 1: we can guess, but we can't. And That's why I say,
- 11:00Speaker 1: if God wants a perfect god, create whatever world. If
- 11:03Speaker 1: he wants a world where everybody's made out of legos,
- 11:05Speaker 1: that's exactly what will happen. And so that's why my
- 11:10Speaker 1: mind is so open to the possibilities, because I believe
- 11:13Speaker 1: if that is what he wanted, then there it is.
- 11:16Speaker 1: If there could have been people on another rock in
- 11:19Speaker 1: space a billion years before us. He is the alpha
- 11:23Speaker 1: and the omega, my friend, there is no concept of time.
- 11:27Speaker 1: We might be we might be number twenty eight trillion
- 11:31Speaker 1: in a series of planets where he has put life
- 11:34Speaker 1: where some people have a dog, a cat, a hamster,
- 11:37Speaker 1: and a lemur in their house. He's got different things
- 11:41Speaker 1: on different rocks, and I think that's entirely possible. I
- 11:45Speaker 1: don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised. Well.
- 11:49Speaker 4: I got to question, though, if he did create somebody perfect,
- 11:53Speaker 4: would they be individuals, would they have free will? Or
- 11:57Speaker 4: would they just be robots?
- 11:59Speaker 1: I don't know. I know I'm not smart enough to
- 12:02Speaker 1: know that, but it's an interesting and and the fact
- 12:08Speaker 1: that we consider around and talk about this and even
- 12:10Speaker 1: contemplate it among ourselves, that shows that there's hope for
- 12:13Speaker 1: all of us. I really believe that.
- 12:16Speaker 4: I hope you're right, Chuck. We're going to find out soon.
- 12:18Speaker 1: I you know, I believe you're right and uh, and
- 12:21Speaker 1: I'm smiling about that possibility as well. I read the book.
- 12:24Speaker 1: I know how it ends.
- 12:25Speaker 4: Yeah. My only fear is, you know, the people that
- 12:29Speaker 4: aren't going to make it and what they're going to
- 12:32Speaker 4: have to go through.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about that a lot too. I think
- 12:35Speaker 1: about that a lot too. I'm gonna try to get
- 12:39Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm gonna try to get Ron in here.
- 12:40Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say goodbye to you, Bill because
- 12:42Speaker 1: I want to try to get Ron in here for
- 12:43Speaker 1: at least a little bit before the music starts. Ron,
- 12:44Speaker 1: You're gonna end this on six to n WTV N.
- 12:48Speaker 4: Hey, guys.
- 12:49Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to say I believed in aliens
- 12:52Speaker 5: for many years. So young group wants to start trek
- 12:55Speaker 5: and all that good stuff, and at once I got
- 12:58Speaker 5: to be in my forties and try to go to
- 13:00Speaker 5: church and grow closer to God, I started to believe
- 13:04Speaker 5: less and less than that. I'm kind of more of
- 13:07Speaker 5: a thinking now that what we're seeing are angels and
- 13:12Speaker 5: demons appearing to us in a way that our human
- 13:15Speaker 5: minds could more deal with it than if we saw
- 13:18Speaker 5: them in their natural state.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Not out of the question, although oh, I would hope
- 13:27Speaker 1: if if angels were going to be visible, they'd be
- 13:30Speaker 1: visible in a way at least sometime in the near
- 13:33Speaker 1: future where we can recognize them, because Lord knows, if
- 13:35Speaker 1: we need some angels, it.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Would be yes, we do.
- 13:38Speaker 1: It would be great if they actually were revealed to people.
- 13:41Speaker 1: I got to run, buddy, Thanks very much for the call.
- 13:45Speaker 1: You know, there was a time when an angel appeared
- 13:48Speaker 1: to those shepherds in the field and told them that
- 13:51Speaker 1: a savior was born. We could use that again. People
- 13:55Speaker 1: just need a little firm and up. We respond when
- 13:59Speaker 1: buildings come cras down, and then we go back to
- 14:02Speaker 1: fat and happy and seeing what's on Netflix tonight. I
- 14:07Speaker 1: don't want any more buildings to come down. Maybe the
- 14:09Speaker 1: next inspiration can be something positive. All right, music's playing
- 14:13Speaker 1: aliens on my mind, rainfalling, but temperatures are good, so
- 14:16Speaker 1: at least we have that