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Mega Edition: Jane Doe # 2 And Her Interview With The Authorities In Florida (5/14/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're kicking open the vault
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once again, and we're going to take a look at
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the questioning that was done of Jane Do number two
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when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and the Florida investigation.
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And if you notice in the court documents we've been
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talking about, a lot has been made of Jane Do
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number two. So let's see what she had to say
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in this interview with the investigators, including Marie Vilafauna. And
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to start things off, there's somebody named Agent Richards who's
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asking the questions, and of course Jane Do two is
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doing the answering. Question. Jane Do two, we just want
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to start off, and I'll lead off. First. We just
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want to get some basic information about you, simple stuff.
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I've got your data birth seven twenty six eighty eight.
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Is that correct answer, yes, sir, question. I just want
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to get like your basics, like that stuff. First, your
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current address, she gives it to him. Your cell phone number,
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she gives it to them. Then they keep asking about
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the cell phone number and the different service providers that
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she has. So we're going to skip past that and
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get right down to the questions that are being asked.
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Question where did you go to high school? Answer redacted?
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Question and what year did you graduate? Answer? I dropped out?
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An eleventh question what year was that that you dropped out?
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Do you remember? Answer? No? Question What year were you
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supposed to graduate your class? Answer two thousand and six?
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Question okay, answer I got my ged Question when did
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you get that? Answer about three months ago? Question and
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are you currently going to college anywhere? Answer? Not right now?
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Question plans? Answer I have a plan. Uh. Villa Fauna
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asked the question, now where are you thinking of going? Answer?
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I'm not positive what I want to do. There's a
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lot of things on my mind, but right now I'm
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focusing on my son. I have a two year old.
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Right now, I'm just working agent Richards. Is he a
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handful witness, Yeah, Richards, I have one too, the witness. Yeah.
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So in the future, I'm definitely going to go to college.
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I'm going definitely going to go to school. But I have,
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you know, a modeling career going on right now that's
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hopefully going to get someone to notice me. Vila Fauna.
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Question or else are you working? Answer? I work for
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Advanced cleaning systems, they clean carpets, Agent Richards, advance, what
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is it the witness system cleaning Villa Fauna? And where
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they located? She gives the address. Question are you working
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in an office there? Or do you go out to
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people's homes? Answer? I work in an office there. Agent Richards.
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Obviously you know where we're, why we're here, and what
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we want to talk about. So let me just kind
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of lead into do you know Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes?
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Question yes, of course you do. Now when did you
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meet jeff Does he go by Jeff or Jeffrey or
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answer Jeffrey? Question Okay, when did you meet him? And
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who introduced you to Jeffrey? Answer? My girlfriend Carolyn introduced
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me to Jeffrey, and by that she means Carolyn Andreano,
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the one who ended up unfortunately taking her own life.
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Question do you know her last name? Answer? No, she
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was a friend of one of my friends, so I
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really didn't know her. Miss Villa Fauna. Question one was that? Answer?
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I really couldn't tell you. I don't even remember. It's
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been so long ago, Agent Richards. So Carolyn introduced you
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to him? Was it at a party setting or how
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did you guys meet. Answer no. She came to me
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and she said, would you like to make a couple dollars?
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And I said sure, I said doing what She said, Well,
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I know this Jeffrey and he lives on Palm Beach
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Island and I bring girls there and he likes massages.
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And I was like okay, So I asked her, I said, well,
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what about my age? And she said, well, just make
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sure that you tell him that you're eighteen. And I
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had a fake idea at the time, and we went there.
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Question okay, and about what time period was that? Answer?
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What time period? Question? Yes? As far as what year
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were you in school? Answer I was sixteen. Villa Fauna.
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Were you a freshman or a sophomore? Do you remember? Answer?
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I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. Probably a sophomore. Question. Now,
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you said that Carolyn told you that he likes massages.
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Did she elaborate on what types of massages? Answer? She said,
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sometimes he likes topless massages. But you don't have to
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do anything you don't want to do. He just likes massages.
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Question and do you know whether Carolyn had given him massages? Answer? Yes,
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she said she's done it. Before. Question and do you
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know whether Carolyn had taken any other girls over to
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see Jeffrey? Answer? Yes, she probably did. Question did she
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tell you how much you would make? Answer? Yes, Question
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what did she tell you? Answer? We go there and
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we make two hundred and thirty minutes. Question Now you
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said that you asked her, you know that, do I
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need to be worried about my age? Why did you
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ask her that? Answer? Because I don't want to be.
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You know, it was like I was underage, and I
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was young, and I was pretty stupid, and I didn't
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want to get I didn't want to get in trouble,
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so I always made sure that I had a fake
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ID anyway, saying that I was eighteen, And she just
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said make sure you're eighteen, because Jeffrey doesn't want any
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underage girls. Agent Richards, Now, Carolyn, did she where did
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you meet her at in school? What? Setting? Answer? I
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was at a friend's house, my girlfriend's house. I don't
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know what girlfriend's house. It was. Everybody was just hanging out,
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and she said she came up to me and she
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asked me, She said, do you want to make a
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couple of bucks? And I said sure? Question and after
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the first time that she took you over there to
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meet mister Epstein. Did she ever call you again to
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set up any appointments with him or anything like that? Answer? No,
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question did she ever call you on the phone? Is
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what I'm asking? Answer No. I gave Jeffrey my number,
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and I said, you know, any time you want me
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to give you a massage again, I'll more than welcome
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to Vila Fauna. Question So Carolyn took you the first time,
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but then after that you communicated directly with Jeffrey. Answer
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uh huh. Question tell us about the first time he
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went to his house. Who how did you get there?
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Answer one of Carolyn's friends. And they dropped us off
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and then we went, you know, we got escorted up
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to the massage room, and he told me everything. He said, listen,
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I like massages. And we had the whole massage table,
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laid out the lotions and everything, and she was in
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there for the first five minutes. And the first time
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I gave him a massage, she left the room and
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I gave him a massage, and she told me, she
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says he likes women topless, so I willingly the first
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time took off my top when I gave him a
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massage and nothing more than that. It was just a
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back massage and a neck massage, and I was out
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of there. Question Okay, let me just ask you a
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couple of follow up questions. He said that someone escorted
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you up to the room. Do you know who that was?
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Answer one of what's her name? Actually Sarah? Sarah just
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said you know it's up there, and she just told
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me where it was. Question And then you said that
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you and Carolyn went upstairs together. Answer, uh huh? Question
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and Carolyn stayed there for the first few minutes. Answer,
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uh huh. Question Was Jeffrey already in the room by
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the time Carolyn left? Answer? Yeah, he was in the room.
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Question Okay, was he there when you guys showed up
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in the room or did he come after you were
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already there? Answer? He was in the room already. Question
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and you said you took your top off. Did anybody
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ask you to take it off? Did Carolyn say it's
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time for you to take it off? No, she wasn't
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in the room. Question by the time you took it off? Okay.
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Answer I said, I told Jeffrey I heard you like
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massages topless, and He's like, yeah, he said, but you
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don't have to do anything that you don't feel comfortable with,
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and I said, okay, but I willingly took it off.
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Question okay, and during the first massage, you said that
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you gave him a shoulder and neck massage. Answer neck, back, shoulder, Yeah.
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Question was he face down the entire time that he
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got his massage? Answer? Yeah? Question and what did you
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do during the massage? Did you talk or answer? Yeah?
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We talked. Question And what did you talk about with him? Answer? Well,
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we were just getting to know each other. We talked
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about how my lifestyle was, what he did for a living,
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and just all the positive things, really nice things. Okay.
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What was he wearing when you first came into the room.
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Answer I'm sorry when first when he first came into
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the room, he was fully clothed, and then he said,
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you know, wait a second, I'm going to go on
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the massage table and put a towel over him like
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normal messuses would do. Question did he undress and put
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a towel around him? Answer? Uh huh? Question okay, Answer yeah,
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I didn't see anything. It was just back, neck and shoulders.
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Question And after the massage was over, you received the
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two hundred. Answer, he gives money right away. Question I'm sorry,
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was that before you started the massage or after the
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massage he gave you you gave him? Answer the first time,
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he gave me the money right away. Question Okay, and
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he's the person that paid you the two hundred dollars.
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Answer No, it's always Sarah. Question Sarah gave you the money? Answer?
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Uh huh? Agent Richards. Question what's Sarah's last name? Do
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you know? Answer? I don't know. Mister Eisenberg, you can't
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look at papers if you think you know, you know
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if you don't know the witness. No, I don't know.
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I don't know Sarah's last name, Miss Villa Fauna. Okay.
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The only thing I'm confused about is you said that
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Sarah didn't even take you upstairs, She just told you
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where you should go. Answer uh huh. Question, so when
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did she pay you the money? Answer? She paid me
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then and there when I first walked in the door
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with Carolyn. Agent Richards. Question she paid you before you
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went upstairs? Answer yes, Villa Fauna. Question and how much
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was car paid? Answer? Everybody got two hundred? Question and
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after so after the massage was finished, you said that
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you've already been paid. Who asked you for your name
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and telephone number? Answer? Jeffrey said, well, I'd like to
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see you again. Can I have your number? From what
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I remember, I'm pretty sure that he asked for my
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number and I gave him my number. Question okay, Agent Richards.
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Did he write it down upstairs? He had a penhandy,
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I hope answer? Uh huh, Villa fauna. Question On the
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first massage, you said that you worked on them topless.
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But when you first started, what were you wearing? Answer?
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I was wearing a shirt, a normal shirt and jeans.
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And I started to do the massage, and I said, well,
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I heard you like topless massages, And of course he
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thought I was eighteen, And he's like, I do I
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prefer that? And who wouldn't you know? So I said, okay,
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and I took it off. Question And you took off
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your bra as well? Answer yes, question and you left
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your genes on? Answer yes, question Okay. So you gave
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him a massage. Did her request you do anything special
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in the massage? Answer? No question? And he never turned
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over during that first massage? Answer no question. So you
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said that day he gave your name and number to Jeffrey,
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When was your next contact from him or anybody that
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worked for him? Answer the next day. He had called
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me and said he would like me to come out
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again and I'd like to see you again. I said sure,
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I took a taxi there and I went there again.
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Question the following day, answer the next day. All right, folks,
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we're going to wrap up right here, and in the
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next episode, we're going to pick up where we left
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off with the interview that Jane Doe two gave to
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the investigators down in Florida. All of the information that
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goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to dive right
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back in to the interview that Jane do two gave
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to Murray, Villa Fauna and the investigators. Question, how did
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you get home the first time when Carolyn took you over?
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Did you get a taxi? Answer? No, our friend came
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back and picked us up. Question which friend was at? Answer?
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His name was Brian. I don't know his last name.
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I really didn't know Carolyn and I didn't know her
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friends or whatever. But I met Jeffrey. And once I
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met Jeffrey, he was a very awesome guy, and I just,
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I don't know. I ended up giving him my numbers
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so I could. I didn't want Carolyn or Brian to
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drive me anymore. I would rather go to him on
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my own, Miss Villafauna. Question when you would take the
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taxis to and from would he pay for them? Answer? Yeah?
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Question and he would pay when you arrived answer uh huh.
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Question and then he would just give you extra money
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when you left to pay for the taxi. Answer no,
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I never asked him for extra money, so I just
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paid for my own taxi. Question okay, so from the
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money that he paid you for the massage? Answer two
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hundred yeah. Question where were you living at the time? Answer?
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I was living at Redacted's, ocated next to oh ketch
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a Bee down to where I lived. Question do you
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remember how much that taxi fare was each way? Answer
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twenty dollars? Question and did you always use the same
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taxi service or answer No, I used different taxis all
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the time. Question and you would just call and have
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them come to your house? Answer uh huh. I used
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a whole bunch of different taxis whatever is available? Question
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So you mentioned that the second massage. Was it any
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different from the first one? Answer? Yes, question how is
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it different? Answer? When I went there, I went by
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myself and I went up to the massage room and
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Jeffrey was just like regular like he was before, on
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his stomach and he had a towel over and we
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started the massage, and I had my top off willingly.
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And after the massage, he asked me the whole time.
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He says, are you comfortable with me doing this? And
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I said yes, And he turned around and this was
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like at the end of the massage, our thirty minute massage.
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Usually it was even shorter than that. And he masturbated
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at the end of the massage, and it was like
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two second skins and I was just topless. Question And
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when he turned over, did he touch you at all?
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Or was he just she cuts him off. No, he
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didn't want me to touch him, and he didn't touch
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me at all. Question. Did he ever ask you to
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rub his chest or rub his nipples during the massage? Answer? Actually,
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later on, because I saw him for a long time.
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Later on, I asked him, you know, and I asked
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him I would give him, you know, I would rub
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his chest or whatever and massage him while he was masturbating. Yeah.
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Question so eventually you would continue the massage and he
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would masturbate at the same time. Answer yeah, but it
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wasn't on his lower area. Question No, you never touched
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his penis. Answer right, question okay, so that was during
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the second massage. You were paid two hundred again? Answer always?
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Question always every time you went there? Answer always? Now,
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Agent Richard's interjects. Question was it always Sarah that paid you? Answer?
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Sometimes Jeffrey would, and sometimes Starah Wood Villafana jumps back in.
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Was it usually before or after the massage? Answer after
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the first time. It was always after. I would go
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downstairs and I'd get paid. Question so just sort of
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tell us when a massage ended, which I assume was
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after he ejaculated. Answer it wasn't all the time that
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he did, though. Question okay. Answer, it wasn't like every
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time I went there he released. Sometimes he just wanted
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his feet massage. Sometimes he just wanted a back massage. Okay.
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But when the massage was over, however it ended, you
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would just get dressed and go downstairs by yourself. Or
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did he take you downstairs? Answer? Yeah, the chef would
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make us food and it'd be great, and Jeffrey would
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get dressed and he'd come with us sometimes or you know,
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it wasn't We had fun. It was all positive. Question Okay,
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how many massages do you think that you gave Jeffrey? Answer?
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I gave Jeffrey a lot of massages. I can tell you.
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I can't tell you I saw him for a good year.
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Question how many times would you see him weekly or
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more than once? Answer? Yeah, question more than once a week?
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Answer I personally would, or I'd bring girls. Question okay,
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but either you would or either a girl that you brought.
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Answer yeah, question okay, answer but after a while it
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wasn't me anymore. I had brought girls, but I got
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paid two hundred to bring girls. Answer okay. So let's
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talk about when you were performing the massages. What other
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sorts of things would happen? You said that sometimes he
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would just like his feet massage. What else would happen
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during those sessions? Answer? Nothing? Everything I told you. Question okay,
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so sometimes a back massage. Answer Sometimes he liked back massages.
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Sometimes he liked feet massages. Sometimes he liked his head massage.
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He liked his head massaged a lot sometimes like massages. Yeah,
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and it wasn't every time that we went there that
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he masturbated. Question okay, any idea half and half or
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less than half the time that he masturbated? Answer us
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the time he masturbated. Question did you always perform topless?
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Did you ever get completely naked towards the end or
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in the middle or remove all your clothing? Answer? I
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would wear panties willingly one time because we were making
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jokes and everything, and willingly one time I had, Yes,
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I was totally nude, but I was fine with it.
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Question okay, answer totally fine with it. Question how did
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that massage go? Answer? Actually it was a foot massage
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and he was sitting on the couch. We didn't even
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have the massage table out, and I gave him a
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foot rub and I was nude. Question and how much
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were you paid for that? Answer? Two hundred? Every single time?
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Question did he at any point kiss you, touch you,
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show any kind of affection towards you? Answer? Never? Never?
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Question okay. Then Agent Richards interjects question why not? Answer
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why not? Why would he question? You seem like a
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nice young lady, attractive. He never had any urges to answer.
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I asked him. I said, when are you going to
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get married? When are you going to get married? Jack?
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He said, I'm never getting married. He has, you know,
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beautiful women all the time. Why would he bill a fauna?
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She jumps in now? Question he never pulled you closer
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to him in a sexual way? Answer? I wish no, no, no,
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never ever. Jeffrey is an awesome man. No question. Okay,
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Now you said that at some point you started bringing
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other girls over. Answer, uh huh? Question how did that start? Answer?
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He likes to see different faces. Questions so he asked
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you if you had friends that you could bring over
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or other girls? Answer? Uh huh? Question? And how did
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you decide who you would ask to come over? Answer?
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All of my good looking girlfriends and if they had friends.
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It's all about you know, we were just making money,
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and Jeffrey's an awesome guy. We just you know, I
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could tell my girlfriends just like Carolyn approached me, make
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sure you tell them you're eighteen. Well, these girls that
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I brought I know there were eighteen or nineteen or twenty,
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and the girls that I didn't know, I don't know
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if they were lying or not. I would say, make
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sure that you tell them you're eighteen. Question Okay, what
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exactly would you tell them about what would happen after
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you first got to the house. Answer? I said, he
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likes massages, but he prefers topless massages. But if you're
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not comfortable, then don't do it and it won't matter.
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Question did any of them tell you what happened after that? Answer? Always? Always?
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I even asked them. Question okay, and with the other girls,
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was it the same girl that you did or different? Answer? Yeah? Yeah,
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I mean well, I was more willing to do more,
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you know, Like I said, I went nude for him
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one time, but the other girls they were practically topless
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and that's all they were willing to do. Some girls
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didn't want to go topless, and Jeffrey didn't mind. Question
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were there girls that you brought back multiple times? Answer?
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A couple, a couple, but he really liked to see
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different faces. Question Okay, I'm just wondering are there some
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girls he really liked and others he didn't like? Or
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did he have any preferences in terms of blondes brunettes? Answer?
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He liked girls like me. Question okay it thin and attractive? Answer? Yeah,
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I guess very attractive women, and he didn't say girls.
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He said women all the time. Did you ever bring
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anybody he didn't care for? Answer? Uh huh? Question yeah
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answer yeah. Question how was she different than the others? Answer? Black?
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I screwed up and just say, you know, to interject here,
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Epstein and Maxwell were super racist, absolute racist pieces of shit,
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and the things they said about people were just vile,
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absolutely vile. Question how did you know you screwed up? Answer?
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He doesn't like black women obviously. Question so he let
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you know he told you that. Answer Yeah, but he
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was still nice and he still gave her two hundred
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even though he didn't have a massage buyer. Question how
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did he he paid you two hundred for bringing each girl? Answer?
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Uh huh. Question and when he told you that, I
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mean that's what he told you that he would pay
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you two hundred for bringing the girls. Answer yeah, he
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said if you bring me, if you bring me girls,
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I'll definitely, you know, give you money, compensate you for
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your time and willing to do that for me. Yeah.
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Question And you said, at that point you stop performing
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massages for him? Answer at that point, I didn't. It
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would be sporadically like usually I had so many girlfriends
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at the time, you know, there were so many new
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faces that he saw, and if one was available, then
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redacted would go question, I gotcha. Question, do you know
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some of the girls that you brought some of their names? Answer?
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I don't remember. Really, there were not even my friends.
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They were just associates, you know, if anything, they'd be
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friends of friends. So no question we have. I don't know.
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We have some messages. I guess that some girls' names
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that will call Jeffrey and leave a message. There are
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some girls' names that are referenced. We were just wondering
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if you knew them. Answer, if you name them, I
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can probably remember. Ms. Villa Fauna, Jason, do you have that?
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Richard's question redacted as one answer, I don't know. Redacted.
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Do you know her last name? Villa Fauna. We were
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hoping you did, the witness. No, I don't agent Richards
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question redacted answer redacted, No, that sounds like a black
22:03
girl's name. Question, well, you brought a black girl, was
22:06
that her name? Answer? I don't know, don't ask me
22:10
question redacted answer redacted, redacted, Yeah, I brought redacted. Question
22:16
who is she tell us about? Redacted answer? Redacted. Well,
22:20
we just look alike. If that's the girl I'm thinking about.
22:23
We went to school together and I brought her one time,
22:25
and then she ended up moving so she couldn't come
22:27
with me. Question were you guys in the same grade
22:31
or answer? No, she was older than me. Question a
22:34
year or two? Answer she was. Actually she was like eighteen.
22:37
I don't know she was older. She was like, you know,
22:39
two ranks, two grades ahead of me. Question so when
22:42
you were a sophomore she was a senior? Answer I
22:45
just met her in school and I told her Villa fauna.
22:48
Question what was her name? Answer? I don't know? Agent
22:52
Richards question do you know where she lived? Answer? I
22:56
just met her at school and I told her about it.
23:00
When you told her about it at school? Is that
23:01
where your discussion was? Answer well, I said give me
23:04
your number. I said, we can make a couple of dollars.
23:07
It's real easy, and if you're comfortable with it, give
23:10
me a call. Question was that at school or at
23:12
a party? Answer? No, at school. Question at school? You're
23:16
not sure her last name and what it was? Answer
23:19
I have no idea. Question do you know where she
23:22
lives or anything like that? What kind of car she drove.
23:24
Answer no. Question what did she look like? Answer what
23:29
she looked like? Question yeah? Answer like me everything, blonde hair,
23:33
blue eyes. Question we're talking about redacted? You were at
23:37
redacted high school at the time? Answer no, I was
23:39
out redacted? Question redacted? Okay, answer and that's where redacted
23:44
went to school. Question what about a girl name redacted? Answer? Who?
23:50
Agent Richards? Question did you bring a redacted? Answer? I
23:53
brought a couple of redacteds. Question I want to know
23:56
about everyone you brought. Well, one of them died recently,
24:00
so question what was her name? In a car accident
24:03
or something? Answer? No, she died. Unfortunately, she got shot
24:06
in the head. You guys probably heard it on the news.
24:09
She got shot in the head by this guy. I
24:11
don't even want to talk about it because i'll cry
24:14
ms Villa fauna. Question let's talk about the other redacted?
24:18
Answer I don't even know. I don't know. I don't know.
24:20
There were some girls that I just would take one
24:22
time and then I would never talk to again, So
24:25
I don't know. Question how many girls do you think
24:29
you brought to Jeffrey's house? Answer that's a good question.
24:33
I bring a lot like maybe I don't know, maybe thirty,
24:36
maybe thirty. It was all about the money to me
24:38
at that time. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up
24:42
right here, and in the next episode, we're gonna pick
24:44
up where we left off. All of the information that
24:47
goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
24:50
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
24:53
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna pick up where
24:56
we left off with Jane do two and her interview
25:00
with Marie Villafana. Question, Now, any of the girls that
25:04
you brought, did any of them leave their names and
25:06
numbers and then they would get appointments directly from Jeffrey
25:10
or did they always go through you? Answer? They went
25:13
through me hopefully. Question So you don't know, Agent Richards
25:17
jumps in. Question you weren't getting paid? Right? Answer? I
25:21
told them, I said, I don't give them your number,
25:23
Miss Villa Fauna. If you brought the same girl more
25:26
than once, would you get paid each time you brought them?
25:30
Or just get the initial two hundred? Answer every single
25:33
time I brought a girl, okay? Or I refer to girl,
25:36
I always got two hundred always? Question even if she
25:39
came a second time. Answer yes, you would get two
25:42
hundred every time she came. Answer yes, question good deal. Okay,
25:47
what about redacted? Answer redacted? Who? Question any redacted that
25:52
you brought to mister Epstein's house. Answer I brought a redacted.
25:57
Question redacted? Where did she go to school? Answer? She
26:00
didn't go to school. Question Okay, how did you know redacted?
26:04
Question redacted? Been mine? She's my friend in the past.
26:08
How did I meet redacted at a party? Or she
26:11
was my Actually she was my baby father's girlfriend at
26:14
the time, and I met her at a party. Question
26:17
you asked her if she'd be willing to go to
26:18
Jeffrey's house. Answer uh huh. Question And when do you
26:22
remember when that would have been? Answer Actually a couple
26:25
of weeks. A couple of weeks, I do remember, a
26:28
couple of weeks after I met him. Question so you
26:31
brought her pretty soon after you met Jeffrey? Answer uh huh.
26:35
Question And how old was redacted? Answer seventeen? Question and
26:39
what happened when you brought redacted? Answer the same thing?
26:42
Question Okay, well, I know that sometimes you said that
26:45
the girls would tell you what happened? Answer she went
26:49
in there, she had a massage. She gave a massage
26:51
on his back. She won a couple of times. He
26:54
liked her, She won a couple of times. The first
26:56
time she told me that he didn't it was just
27:00
like me. The first time. He didn't climax at all,
27:02
nothing happened. It was just a massage. And then she
27:05
went I think like two times after that, and yeah,
27:08
he masturbated, but no touching. She didn't. There's no touching
27:12
of him, no touching of her. None of my girls
27:16
ever had a problem. And they'd call me. They'd beg me,
27:18
you know, for us to go to Jeffrey's house because
27:20
they love Jeffrey. Jeffrey is a respectful man, he really is,
27:24
I mean, and he all thought we were of age always.
27:28
This is what's so sad about it. Question How would
27:31
you make appointments for girls to go over there? Answer?
27:34
I'd call them and they'd say, Hi, do you want
27:37
to go to Jeffrey's house And they'd say yes or no,
27:39
and we'd call a taxi. How would you know when
27:43
Jeffrey was going to be in town? Answer? When Jeffrey
27:46
was in town, Sarah would call me. Question did she
27:49
always call when they were already in town, or would
27:51
she call how far in advance would she call you? Answer?
27:55
They only call me when they were in Palm Beach.
27:58
They never called me from anywhere They've never called me
28:00
from anywhere else. It's always when I was in Palm Beach,
28:04
they'd say, Hi, we're down here. If you want to
28:06
come and see Jeffrey, you're more than welcome to Question
28:10
So you wouldn't have like a specific time when you
28:12
would go over, like be here at eleven or be
28:15
here at two? Answer, Well, I tell them, I'd say, well,
28:18
I mean i'd have to work around his schedule, he'd
28:21
have to work around mine. Yeah, we'd say I'll be
28:24
there at three, I'll be there at four or whatever.
28:26
Question do you I know that you said you talked
28:29
to Sarah on the phone. Was there anybody else that
28:32
you would talk to on the phone? Answer? If Jeffrey
28:34
wasn't there, like if I call him to see how
28:37
he was doing or whatever? You know he had his
28:39
chef would answer the phone, his maid would answer the phone.
28:43
Question But was Sarah the only one you talked to
28:45
about making appointments? Answer? Uh huh, yeah, well, yeah, if
28:50
Jeffrey wasn't available, they'd you know, he said the chef
28:53
or you know whoever said, Jeffrey will be back to
28:56
you know, yeah, Sarah made the appointments. So when you're
29:00
calling to talk to Jeffrey, you were calling the house
29:02
phone over in Palm Beach. Answer on huh yeah. Question
29:06
and how often would you talk to Jeffrey on the
29:08
phone as opposed to talking to one of his assistants. Answer?
29:12
Me and Jeffrey hardly ever talked on the phone. He
29:15
was always busy. It was mostly Sarah. We talk when
29:18
I would get there, you know, so it was like, hey,
29:21
do you want to come in? Yes? Cool, you know,
29:23
come come there? No cool? Bye. Question Do you know
29:27
someone who works for Jeffrey named Nadia? Answer? I think
29:30
I met her one time. Question and what do you
29:33
know about her? Answer? She was there and the person naughty?
29:36
I think I'm not positive. Okay, I'm pretty sure. She
29:39
said that she's from New York and she travels with Jeffrey.
29:42
But I think I met her one time. If that's
29:45
the girl that rings the bell, you know, in my head, naughty,
29:48
I think is that one person that I met one time? Question? Now,
29:52
you said that you had teased Jeffrey Epstein about whether
29:54
he was getting married. Did you ever know him to
29:56
have a girlfriend or a steady girl? Answer no, Homie's
30:00
never been married, he's never had a girlfriend, and he
30:02
doesn't want to have a girlfriend. Question where you ever
30:06
asked to bring a girl for someone else, like to
30:08
give Jeffrey a massage, but for somebody else, to anyone
30:11
other than Jeffrey. Answer No, I gave Sarah a massage before.
30:16
Question and how often did that happen? Answer? I only
30:20
gave Sarah a massage like once or twice, not that often.
30:25
Question but anybody else either any friends that were in
30:28
town or they're cut off by Jane do two? No. See,
30:32
my mother is a masseuse and I have experienced massaging,
30:35
and he always liked my massages. So he told Sarah
30:38
about my massages, and she said, yeah, I want a massage.
30:41
So I'd go over there. I think it was one
30:43
or two times, and I'd give her a massage. Question now,
30:46
when the girls were upstairs with Jeffrey in the bedroom,
30:49
what would you do? Answer? The chef would make me
30:51
carved tomatoes, put some crab meat in it, and I
30:54
just eat wine and dine. It was wonderful. Great question,
30:59
and when you would talk to the chef? Answer yeah,
31:01
question would anybody else from the house be there? Answer yes,
31:05
I don't know their names. I can't remember. There were
31:08
like all these foreign girls from like they're very beautiful,
31:11
beautiful models that are from different they have accents. And no,
31:14
but it was real interesting because we talk, and you know,
31:17
I'd learn a lot from them, and they'd learn a
31:19
lot from me just being American. And no, every time
31:22
I went there, it was a good time. And I
31:24
usually just ate, or i'd go in suntan or something
31:27
near the pool. And how long would other girls be
31:31
upstairs normally? Answer twenty five twenty thirty minutes. Agent Richard's
31:37
question back to adacted. Is there anything else about her
31:41
that you can remember? You were friends with her, she
31:44
went three times. You think did she go back without
31:46
going through you or set up appointments that you know about? Answer?
31:50
I don't know. Question Okay, were there any other redacteds
31:54
that you brought? I know you brought other redacteds or
31:58
multiple redacteds? Answer yeah, yeah, I don't know. If you
32:02
would say, like a last name, then I would probably remember,
32:05
but I don't. Question and he redacted. Did you bring redacted?
32:09
Answer redacted? Yeah that sounds familiar. Yeah yeah, question redacted answer,
32:15
uh huh. Question what can you tell me about her?
32:18
How old was she? Answer? She's older than me. Question
32:21
do you know her from school? Answer? No? Where did
32:24
I meet her? I met her in my neighborhood and
32:27
I asked her if she wanted to go, and yeah,
32:29
she was only there one time, though. Question did she
32:33
tell you how it went with them upstairs? Answer? Yeah?
32:36
Question what did she say? Answer? She said she's like, uh,
32:40
I don't know. Question she freaked out or something? Answer no, No,
32:44
but I didn't want her again. He likes tall, slender
32:48
and she was like short. Question what did she say
32:51
about him? Answer she had fun? Question she had fun?
32:55
Answer uh huh. Question what did she say happened up there? Answer?
32:59
She was topless and just gave a massage. He didn't
33:02
you know climax or anything? Uh Villa fauna jumps. In
33:06
question did you ever either when you gave him a
33:08
massage or any of the girls. Did you ever use
33:10
a big back massager or was it only a manual massage? Answer? No,
33:15
it was only my hands. We never used anything else.
33:18
Question Now, when you were working for him when you
33:21
were going over Jeffrey's house to give massages. Did you
33:24
have a boyfriend? Answer yeah? Question okay, How did he
33:28
feel about you going to Jeffrey's house? Answer he was jealous,
33:32
a jealous little boy, but he didn't care. Bring home
33:34
the bacon. Question what's your boyfriend's name? Answer redacted? Question Now,
33:40
I know that you mentioned that you had a baby.
33:43
Is that the baby's father? Answer? No, thank god? Question
33:47
who's the baby's father? Answer redacted? Question okay? And were
33:51
you still going to Jeffrey's house when you were pregnant? Answer?
33:54
I would bring girls there when I was pregnant. Question, so,
33:58
did redacted have concerns about what you were doing over
34:01
at Jeffrey's house? Answer? No, he talked to Jeffrey over
34:04
the phone. Jeffrey actually threw me my baby shower, and
34:08
he got me furniture and a nice rattle for my son,
34:10
and just really nice things. I love, mommy. Frames question
34:15
was the shower at his house? And did he attend? Answer? No, No,
34:18
at my house, at my house and no, Jeffrey wasn't there.
34:21
He just sent Sarah to bring me gifts for the baby.
34:24
Question oh, okay. Question did redacted ever go over there
34:27
with you? Answer? No, question he stayed away? Answer no,
34:31
he didn't go No. Villa Fauna. Question did Jeffrey ask
34:36
about your boyfriend? I mean was he curious about? Answer? Yeah,
34:40
we always talked about everything. Yeah, do you have a boyfriend? Yeah? No,
34:44
you know, we talk like friends. I don't know just
34:47
about our life stories. You know, he probably knows my
34:50
whole life story. Agent Richards. Question now do you still
34:54
have contact with them or answer? Who? Question Jeffrey? Answer no, no, no,
35:00
No one's allowing me. Villa Fauna. Question did he know
35:03
that you wanted to be a model or is that
35:05
or that you were aspiring to be one? Answer yeah,
35:08
I told him yes, I've always wanted to be a model. Yes.
35:12
Question did he ever offer to help you? Answer? Uh
35:14
huh yeah. And I was like, like I said, I
35:17
was sixteen at the time, and I felt like, he said,
35:19
you know you can, I will definitely take you and
35:21
bring you to New York and everything because he had
35:24
models there. But I was always turned down because I
35:27
was sixteen and I didn't want that to get out.
35:31
Question what did you say to him? How did you
35:33
put him off? Answer? I don't know. Oh well, I
35:36
don't know. He wasn't like begging me or anything. He
35:38
asked me a couple of times, and I said, I
35:40
just there was like no say about it. I just
35:43
didn't go. And it wasn't like he asked me all
35:46
the time. He just it's a couple of times he asked.
35:49
He said, I'll bring you to New York or whatever
35:51
we do, and we can, you know, try to fulfill
35:53
your dreams. But I always said no because I was
35:56
young and I didn't want to screw up the eighteen thing.
35:59
Question when you got pregnant, did he react in any way?
36:03
I mean, did he tell you if you want to
36:05
be a model, you know this is going to mess
36:07
you up your chances as a model, or offer any
36:10
the questions interrupted by Jane Doe. Answer no question. I'm wondering,
36:15
like how much he was giving you advice? How much
36:18
stuff were you really? What did you talk about? Answer?
36:21
After the baby, we didn't even really talk. I was
36:24
totally changed, you know. I had a bad little girl,
36:27
and I totally changed. My whole life changed. A couple
36:30
of times after I had the baby, I brought a
36:33
couple of girls there. It was like two times, and
36:35
then me and Jeffery really stopped talking. We just stopped talking.
36:38
I had my own life and he had his, So
36:40
I don't know. Agent Richards question, did he ever make
36:44
any arrangements knowing that you wanted to be a model
36:47
or war modeling? He has a lot of connections with
36:49
photographers and stuff. I mean, did he ever set up
36:51
any photo shoots or anything like that? Answer no, because
36:55
he asked me if I would like to go pursue
36:57
what I wanted to do. But like I said, for
36:59
the second time, question I mean in town here, not
37:03
to travel to New York for a shoot or anything.
37:05
Answer no, because I always like stood back from that
37:08
because I didn't want him to know that I was
37:10
sixteen Villa Fauna. Question did you ever get money from
37:14
Jeffrey when you didn't give him a massage or burn
37:16
girls over? Answer? Yeah, question okay, when did that happen? Answer?
37:22
I had to pay a rent and I was laid
37:23
on my rent. This was before the baby, and I
37:26
asked him. I asked him for like three hundred. He
37:28
gave me five hundred. I don't I couldn't tell you
37:31
how I got it. If anything, I think I went
37:33
to the house and got it. Question was he there
37:36
when you got the money? Answer? No, question. Do you
37:40
know was he in town or did you call him? Answer?
37:43
I don't even I can't remember, but I just remember
37:45
he did give me five hundred for rent. Question was
37:48
that the only time that he gave you money that
37:51
wasn't connected either to a massage or to bringing a girl?
37:55
Answer he bought gifts for the baby shower? I can't
37:58
remember now, not off the top of my head. No,
38:00
I never asked him for anything because I just felt
38:03
I'm not like that. You know, I'm not a user,
38:05
and I'm not I don't like that. I've never asked
38:07
him for money. Question what about presents, either birthday presents
38:11
you mentioned, gifts for the baby, any other gifts that
38:13
he gave you. Answer? Yeah, he gave me he had
38:17
went to Brazil and he came back with a whole
38:18
bunch of bikinis and told me to choose one, So
38:21
I chose one. Question Any other gifts Christmas time or
38:24
birthdays or anything like that? Answer no question. Did he
38:29
give any of your friends that you brought gifts? Answer? Yeah,
38:32
the girl who died redacted, he gave her a bathing
38:34
suit from Brazil. All right, folks, you're going to wrap
38:37
up right here, and in the next episode we're gonna
38:39
pick up where we left off. All of the information
38:41
that goes with this episode can be found in the
38:44
description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode
38:48
of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right
38:51
back to the interview given by Jane Do number two
38:54
to Marie Villa Fauna. Question by Agent Richards, just to
38:59
see if you recognize these or if you ever used
39:02
any of these numbers that might have been old telephone
39:04
numbers for you at some point. I don't know how
39:06
many cell phones you may have had through the years.
39:08
See if you recognize any of those answer, redacted was
39:12
my number, Miss Villa Fauna. Question What was redacted's number?
39:16
Answer redacted question yeah, answer what my baby's father? Question? Yeah? Answer, Oh,
39:23
I never knew his I always just you know, called
39:25
him and I never knew his number. Agent Richards question
39:30
it was programmed in your phone? Answer? Yeah, so I
39:33
don't know. I just know redacted because that was my
39:36
old number, like a long time ago, Miss Villa Fauna.
39:40
Question at the time you were bringing girls over to
39:42
the house, you were also working a regular job? Answer?
39:46
I worked at City Pizza for a little while, but no,
39:48
kind of retired and splurged, I didn't have any bills
39:51
to pay. I saved. I put money in the bank.
39:53
So question we had talked about redacted before? Do you
39:57
know someone named redacted? Answer redacted? Uh huh? Question and
40:02
who is that? Answer? I brought her a couple of times.
40:05
Who is that? Question? I mean, did you go to
40:08
school with her? Or how did you know her? Answer? Oh,
40:11
I had asked one of my friends. I said, do
40:13
you have any It was a guy friend. I said,
40:15
do you have any girls that are willing to give massages?
40:18
And I met up with her. I called her, I
40:20
talked to her on the phone. I met up with
40:22
her and she said, yeah. Cool. Question you said you
40:25
took her over there a couple of times. Answer, Yeah,
40:29
she went over there more. She went over there more
40:31
than a couple of times. Question, but you brought her
40:34
every time that she went over there? Answer that I
40:37
know of? That I know of? Yeah. Question Okay, did
40:40
you ever tell any of the girls that they would
40:42
be going over to model Lingerie? Answer? No, I told
40:46
them that we were going to Jeffrey's house, and it's
40:48
going to be a topless massage. Pretty much anything you
40:51
don't want to do, you don't have to do. And
40:53
it's two hundred dollars. Bought a bing, bought a boom,
40:56
you make two hundred and thirty minutes. Question did any
41:00
of the girl's complain about what happened after they left there? Answer? No,
41:04
you asked me that question. No, everybody loved Jeffrey. Question
41:08
no one called you and said I think that you
41:10
should call I think you should call the police. Answer no, question,
41:14
no one ever told you that? Answer No, no, Oh
41:17
my god. And who is that coming from. Question Well,
41:20
we just have phone calls that seemed to contradict what
41:22
you're telling us. Answer, Oh, so you think that people
41:25
came to me and said that I'm going to call
41:27
the police on Jeffrey Agent Richards. Question was there anyone
41:31
that thought that what mister Epstein was doing was inappropriate
41:34
and was concerned? Answer? Every girl that I brought to Jeffrey,
41:38
they said they were fine with it, and like for
41:40
instance redacted, a lot of girls begged me to bring
41:43
them back. They wanted to come back for the money,
41:46
and as far as I know, We all had fun there.
41:48
We ate all the food he gave us free bikinis.
41:51
Know nothing about any cops question. I mean, was there
41:55
anyone there that thought what he was doing may have
41:57
been a little bit wrong, not wanting to report to
41:59
the police, but just saying, you know, that's kind of
42:02
weird answer. We talked about it, like because we were underage,
42:06
but he thought that we were eighteen. We were like,
42:08
hopefully that no one finds out. Hopefully Jeffrey doesn't find out.
42:12
But other than that, no one's call him the cops.
42:15
Villa Fauna. Was anybody upset that he was masturbating? I
42:19
know that you said you told them that they would
42:22
only possibly be doing the massage topless. They might have
42:25
expected that was somebody shocked answer? Yeah, of course. I
42:29
mean he always told them okay, and I told them too.
42:32
I said, if you're going to go there, then you
42:34
don't have to do anything that you're not comfortable with.
42:37
A Couple girls when they did come out of there,
42:40
they're like, oh my god. I wasn't expecting all of that.
42:43
But he always asked them, and I asked them. They'd
42:45
say that, you know, he asked me, are you comfortable
42:48
with this, and they'd say, yes, maybe they were scared,
42:51
who knows, but yeah, they came out there like, oh
42:54
my god, that was kind of weird. You know. Yeah,
42:58
question were any of them upset about it? Answer? Do
43:01
they like regret it or something? Agent Richards questions just
43:04
shaken up, you know, just kind of shocked. Answer. A
43:07
couple of girls, Well, see we were so young, and
43:10
Jeffrey didn't know that. Like the whole thing was shooken
43:14
up when I brought them there. And see, I don't know,
43:17
I thought that they were you know, most of the
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girls that I did bring there there were eighteen nineteen twenty,
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but I remember there was a couple of times I
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had brought like maybe sixteen year olds or something my age,
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and they, I don't know, it's like they were scared
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to say that they were eighteen. They were like, if
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he finds out, and they were a little shook up
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about it and the age thing, but afterwards, like if
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he climbaxed or whatever, if they were like shooken up,
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I'm like, it's okay, you know, and they were like,
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I wasn't expecting that. But they told Jeffrey that, you know,
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they were comfortable with it, if anything. You know, maybe
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they were scared and they felt like a obligated like
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they didn't want to say. I was thinking that they
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didn't want to say, like no, you know, I don't
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want to do that. Who knows. I wasn't up there
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with them, so I couldn't tell you. Question who are
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the ladies who mentioned to you that they were kind
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of shocked? Answer? Usually the girls that I would bring
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like one time. I wouldn't even see them again. Question
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can you help me out with some names though? Answer? Uh, no,
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I can't remember her name. She's on the top of
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my Oh my god, I don't remember. I can't remember Ms.
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Villa Fauna. Question none of the girls wanted to go
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to the authorities. Nobody was that upset that called you
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or spoke to you that was upset with what happened
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to the point that they were willing to report it.
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Answer no, if anything, thank you redacted so much because
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I really could use the money. Agent Richard's question, do
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you know the names of some of the girls that
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you brought? Answer huh. Question do you know the names
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of some of the girls that you've brought other than
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the ones that we've talked about right now. Answer like
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I said, I can't remember because usually cut off by another.
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Question there's about thirty of them, so you've got to know?
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Answer no, I don't know. I just asked them. I said, hey,
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would you like to make some money? Here's my number.
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Do you want to make money? Here's my number? You know,
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And that's how it went. So I don't remember the names,
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and I really didn't care to know their names anyway.
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Question do you know their phone numbers? Answer now? Question yeah,
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answer no. Question do you know any of their phone numbers?
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Answer no, No, that was years ago. Question We're just
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trying to find any other ladies out there that we
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haven't already seen, and you brought thirty of them, and
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we're just trying to answer. Oh, I don't know if
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I brought thirty of them. Question approximate answer Yeah, no,
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I have no clue, no idea ms Villa Fauna. Question
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did you stay in touch with any of the girls
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that you've brought? Answer on huh, question redacted any of
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the girls that we've talked about. Did you ever when
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you were either bringing girls or when you were given massages?
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Did you ever drink anything or take drugs? Whether it
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was a prescription drugs. Answer. I heard this on the news. No,
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it's ridiculous answer. You were never given answer never. Question.
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Did any of the girls take drugs? Did you know
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that they were taking drugs? Answer? There was no alcohol,
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There was no drugs, no question. None of the girls
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that you've brought were using drugs. Answer no question. And
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just so you know, redacted, we're not talking about necessarily
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crack cocaine. We're wondering if anybody was taking any prescription medication. Answer.
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I don't know. If they were taking prescription medication, that's
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their problem. I don't know. Question. And you didn't give
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anybody else any prescription drugs answer No. When I was sixteen,
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I smoked pot. But no, mister Eisenberg jumps in here. Okay,
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gang back on the record, and I assume you mean
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prescription medication, not prescription purposes the witness. I thought you
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met like for a prescription prescribed No, I don't know,
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Agent Richards, Okay, Villafana. Question, but you weren't talking or
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taking any antidepressants or any pills or anything. Answer No,
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I just smoke pot, but I mostly went their sole bad.
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I was comfortable with Jeffrey Jeffrey always made me feel
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so comfortable. I thought I was a big girl. I
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was eighteen. Question you said that you stopped. Why did
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you stop going over there? You said that you had
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a baby and you changed. Answer? Yeah, question what happened? Answer?
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Everything changed in my life everything. I ended up getting
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a job, and I just stopped. I just stopped. I
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don't know. Question but if you felt comfortable, why did
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you stop going over there? Answer? I just stopped because
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I have a son now and I didn't feel like
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it was right. First off, I was a stay at
47:32
home mommy, okay, And what am I going to do
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bring my son over to Jeffrey's? No, you know, So
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I focused on my son. I had a beautiful baby boy.
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That was my pride and joy. I didn't care for
47:42
anything else. I didn't care to tell friends. I dropped
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all my friends. Like he asked me, do I have
47:47
any numbers? No? You know, if anybody does call me,
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that's my mother. Like it was just me and my
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baby boy. And it's been like that ever since. Agent
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Richards question having a baby as a life changing experience
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is answer having a baby? Question? Yes, it's full time?
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Answer awesome, I love it. Question, Yeah, he'll be two
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in August. Answer mine will be two in June. Villa Fauna.
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Is that when you started working with the company you're
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working with now? Answer, well, I was there the whole
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time I was pregnant. I was taken care of by
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my baby's father. Then I was to stay at home
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mommy for eight months. After that, I worked at Ala
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Fitness Romeo Pizza. It's been a year now, And what
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do you mean is that while I'm working? Question No,
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I just didn't know where you were working. I thought
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you said you had gotten a job afterwards after the
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baby was born. Answer yeah, I worked at the laundromat
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for a couple of days. I just like to I
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wanted to soak in my son. That's all I did.
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And I was like a hermit crab in the house,
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you know. And if anybody I told, I told Sarah,
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I said, you know, I have a baby now, and
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you know I'd rather stay home with my baby. My
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old man was taking care of me. I didn't care
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about money. Everything was good, so a new life agent Richards. Question,
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speak of work. When you set up appointments with Sarah,
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did she refer to what the girls were doing as work,
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like would they go over to Jeffreys to work for massage?
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Or answer? No? Question how did she were any terms
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used or just general? Did she ask you if you
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had any girls that can work? Or did you have
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any girls that can come over? Do you have any
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girls that can give Jeffrey a massage? How did she
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ask for these appointments? Answer all of the above. Do
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you have any girls that would like to come over?
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Do you have any girls that would like to work? Yeah?
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All the above? Really, I mean me and Sarah were
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really it's like a friend relationship. She's fun. No, it
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wasn't like specific like hey, you know, do you want
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to come over and work? No? It was all different
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message work whatever. Question Okay, Villa Fauna, you said that
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you and Sarah developed a friendly relationship. Did Sarah ever
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tell you what types of girls Jeffrey wanted or I
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think you said that sometimes she would say he likes
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this girl or I'm sorry, he likes that girl. Answer yeah.
49:58
Question what exactly what guidance did you give about recruiting
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the girls? Answer? She didn't give me any guidance. Jeffrey
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from the get go, I really like women like you,
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So when I would go searching to make money or whatever.
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Are my girlfriends. I know what an attractive person looks like,
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and I would bring them. You know, I didn't bring
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any overweight people. I just knew that what Jeffrey liked,
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you know. Question did you ever talk to Sarah when
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you were given massages? Answer? Yeah, I didn't know if
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she knew or not. Question I have a picture of someone.
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I'm just wondering if you recognize this person? Answer no,
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was she a girl that was over there? Answer just
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a face that we wanted to answer, Okay, no, I
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don't Richard's question when you would ask the ladies if
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they'd like to go over to Jeffrey's, what was the percentage?
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How many people would say, sure, that sounds good, let's
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go do it, and how many would just say no,
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I'm not interested. I mean, do you have How often
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when you would ask the girls answer it was usually
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girls that I brought, the girls that I had brought,
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like the first five girls. Say, I would say, listen,
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you know, recruit your girlfriends, and would go down the line,
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recruit your girlfriends, and I will pay you guys. So
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if I was off the wall, say I was, you
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know at a club or something and I was like, hey, girl,
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you want to go? They'd be like, you're crazy, you know. Question,
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That's what I wondered, When you approach them, what was
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the reaction? Answer? But when I talked to them over
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the phone, if it was one of my girlfriends friends
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or one of their friends, I would tell them exactly
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and they'd be like, okay, you know. And some girls
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weren't comfortable with it. You know, how our morals are
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or whatever. If you're comfortable with your body, if you're
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comfortable with giving an old man a massage for two
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hundred bucks, question for thirty minutes? Answer, you know everybody
51:42
is a different person. Question sure answer, But most of
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the girls were like yeah, sure villafana. Question did you
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ever say anything about you know, be careful who you
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talk to about this? Or I guess I'm wondering why
51:56
you know, were rumors going around at school? Or how
51:59
did everyone keep everything under wraps? Answer? Everybody knew. I
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don't know. Everybody made jokes about it, like it was
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not in school. It was more like in my neighborhood.
52:07
They would call me Heidi Fleisch and everybody just made
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jokes about it. I don't know it wasn't, but I
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didn't care. Question right. Answer, you know it wasn't. If
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you didn't get out, it wasn't really a big thing
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to me at all. Question I guess I'm wondering, you know,
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kind of the way that this all came out, was
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finally a parent found out about it? Answer? Yeah, I
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heard question and went ballistic. How did you keep the
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girl's parents from finding out? Answer I don't know. Probably embarrassing.
52:36
They obviously like Jeffrey that much that they didn't tell anyone.
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Question did anyone hassle you at school? Did anybody call
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you Heidi Fleisch at school? Answer? No, I was out
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of school by then. Question when did you drop out
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of school? Answer? Well, actually why? Question? I'm sorry I
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interrupted you. Answer because no, you didn't. Well, my mother
52:55
had took me out of school to homeschool me, and
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then I had went back to school because I was
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really behind because she didn't homeschool me. And I got pregnant.
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That's why. And that's in the eleventh grade. That's when
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I got out because I was pregnant and I decided
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that I was I mean, I didn't know what I
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was doing. I wanted to have a house. I said,
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I'm going to have this baby, I need to have
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a house, a car, and I set out all my
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goals and that's what happened. But then I ended up
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getting my ged and I have a life agent Richards.
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Question were there ever any girls that came to you
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wanting to work over there that said, Hey, I'd like
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to go over there and make two hundred? Did you
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have any of that? Answer? Yeah, question do you remember
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any of their names or their classmates? Answer? It wasn't.
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I wasn't involved in school so much. It was just
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some girl in the school. Question Okay, so she was
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really the only like school related answer, like person from school? Yeah,
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question okay, but it was mostly out of school, so
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I wasn't really hanging out with the best crowd. And
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all the people that I did hang out with they
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were dropouts, so it was anything in school. It was
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mostly like neighborhood people or my friend, one of my
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guy friends girlfriends or whatever. You know, we were all
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young and stupid. Question anything else? Do you have any
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questions for us? For me? Answer? No, but I hope.
54:15
I hope Jeffrey nothing happens to Jeffrey because he's an
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awesome man, and it would really be a shame. It's
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a shame that he has to go through this because
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he's an awesome guy and he didn't do anything wrong nothing. Question.
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Are you in love with him at all? Answer? Am
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my God? No, I love him as a friend. I
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love him as a friend. He has done so much
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for me. No, I'm not in love with him. I
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tell Jeffrey, do you want to marry me with all
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that money that you have? Agent Richards? All right, at
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this time, we're going to conclude the interview. It's five
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point thirty four by my watch, mister Eisenberg. The only
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thing we'll correct is that there might have been a
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reference to an old guy at fifty, and we'll just
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say a more mature individual who was in his fifties.
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Thank you. All right, So that's gonna wrap up the
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interview with Jane To and Marie Villa Fauna. All of
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