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The Kenny Report | 31 October · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Laura from the Sky New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me here on the Kenny Report. With
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  Speaker 3: six days to go in the US election, has Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump delivered the winning retort in the presidential campaign?
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  Speaker 4: You can't be president if you hate the American people,
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  Speaker 4: which I believe they do.
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  Speaker 3: I'll cross to Laura Jays in the US, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: speak with Alexander Downer here in Australia, as well as
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  Speaker 3: talk to Miranda Devine in New York City about her
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  Speaker 3: new book on the Biden family, business and political cover ups.
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  Speaker 3: Back home, I'll have more on the Prime Minister's upgrade disaster.
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  Speaker 1: He's still keeping.
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  Speaker 3: Low, the questions mount and labor is desperately seeking to
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  Speaker 3: smear others. Also more on the energy debate with Keith
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  Speaker 3: Pitt plus Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson to make sense
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  Speaker 3: of it all.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get started.
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  Speaker 3: When it comes to climate chair climate alarmism. It's almost
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  Speaker 3: pointless fighting back where overwhelmed by it, aren't we? But
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep pointing it out because you know,
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  Speaker 3: facts matter.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: People hate to challenge this stuff because then you're called
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  Speaker 3: a climate deny and you're mocked and shunned and even abused.
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  Speaker 1: So for the record, yes, the climate is changing.
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  Speaker 3: It's always changing, it's always either warming or calling, and
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  Speaker 3: there is evidence to suggest that, yes, we might be
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  Speaker 3: in a warming phase. And yes, I accept the science
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  Speaker 3: that human produced carbon emissions can exacerbate this warming. But
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  Speaker 3: the extent to which this is happening is an ongoing
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  Speaker 3: matter of scientific research, obviously, But the last thing we
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  Speaker 3: need to do is exaggerate, catastrophize and frighten people, especially children.
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  Speaker 3: For instance, why don't we see media and others, ever
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  Speaker 3: point to some of the undeniable benefits of global warming,
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  Speaker 3: which reduces the number of deaths due to cold every
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  Speaker 3: year and extends growing seasons and agricultural production in colder climates.
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  Speaker 3: Or how recent studies confirm that extra carbon dioxide in
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  Speaker 3: the atmosphere is fueling a greening of the planet, which
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  Speaker 3: is good for the environment obviously and agriculture of course. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned this because the CSIRO here in Australia has
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  Speaker 3: released its latest State of the Climate report, and as usual,
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  Speaker 3: it's all couched as bad news.
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  Speaker 5: And globally, twenty twenty three was the warmest year on record.
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  Speaker 5: Australia is also continuing to warm in line with global trends.
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  Speaker 5: The warming has led to an increase in the frequency
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  Speaker 5: of extreme heat events.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're the scientists and that's what they say in
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  Speaker 3: cahots with their comms people, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But the point is they don't give you all the information.
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  Speaker 3: They don't share information that provides context or that might
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  Speaker 3: feel proper informed scientific skepticism about their claims. For instance,
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  Speaker 3: in that clip, you would have seen that the graphs
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  Speaker 3: started from nineteen ten, and indeed, in the report itself
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  Speaker 3: we are told that Australia's climate has warmed by an
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  Speaker 3: average of one and a half degrees since national records
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  Speaker 3: began in nineteen ten. Well, national records did not begin
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  Speaker 3: in nineteen ten. In many places they go back many
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  Speaker 3: decades earlier. But our Weather Bureau only uses the records
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  Speaker 3: from nineteen ten onwards. It has its own scientific reasons
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  Speaker 3: for doing this, consistency of measurement devices and the like,
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  Speaker 3: but the fact remains it chooses to ignore earlier temperatures.
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  Speaker 3: This means that one of the hottest and driest decades,
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  Speaker 3: the eighteen nineties, is left out of the records.
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  Speaker 1: Some would say conveniently, the.
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  Speaker 3: Warming trend might seem much lower, or even disappear altogether
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  Speaker 3: if earlier temperatures were included. For instance, as you can
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  Speaker 3: see in this graph from the Institute of Public Affairs,
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  Speaker 3: the temperature record in Darwin would look entirely different if
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  Speaker 3: the early recording shown here in green were included. Similar
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  Speaker 3: analysis canon has been compiled for many.
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  Speaker 1: Other sites, But it gets worse.
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  Speaker 3: What the Weather Bureau and the CSIRO also don't talk
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  Speaker 3: about enough is that the records they use have been homogenized,
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  Speaker 3: that is, they've been adjusted.
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  Speaker 1: So many temperature recordings from the.
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  Speaker 3: Early part of the twentieth century after nineteen ten have
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  Speaker 3: been reduced, have been adjusted downwards because they reckon they
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  Speaker 3: must have been improperly recorded. So many maximum temperature records
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  Speaker 3: announced nay now these days are actually not the highest
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  Speaker 3: temperature read from those locations. The new records are not
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  Speaker 3: the highest temperatures recorded, but temperatures that are higher than
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  Speaker 3: what the earlier readings have been reduced to.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'm not suggesting anything improper.
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  Speaker 3: The scientific community justifies these adjustments, but I am suggesting
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  Speaker 3: a lack of transparency and an unwillingness from the Weather
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  Speaker 3: Bureau and the CSIRO to discuss these matters. It's important
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  Speaker 3: information because it underscores the lack of certainty. The Weather
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  Speaker 3: Bureau and the CSIRO prefer to keep it simple, certain
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  Speaker 3: and scary. No, I haven't forgotten about airbus elbow. The
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  Speaker 3: Labor Party is getting desperate now. Instead of answering questions,
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  Speaker 3: instead of clearing the air, they're trying to smear Peter
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  Speaker 3: Dutton and other Coalition MPs about other upgrades of flights
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  Speaker 3: or flights on Gena Reinhardt's private Yet, anything they can
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  Speaker 3: to divert attention from the Prime Minister is quantus freebies
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  Speaker 3: and how and why he got them for private travel.
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  Speaker 3: One Labor backbencher even tried to suggest that Dutton was
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  Speaker 3: sucking on an exploding cigar.
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  Speaker 6: Peter Dutton's credibility now lies in tatters.
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  Speaker 1: He has just had his own Godwin Gretsch moment.
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  Speaker 3: Mm there's some wishful thinking, there isn't there. The onus
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  Speaker 3: clearly remains on Anthony Albanezi and.
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  Speaker 7: We still don't frankly have a clear or I don't think,
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  Speaker 7: honest answer from the Prime Minister. The cute form of
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  Speaker 7: words coming out of the PMO and out of the
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  Speaker 7: Prime Minister just don't add up to a credible response.
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  Speaker 7: We've got a Prime Minister at the moment who can't
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  Speaker 7: tell the truth to the Australian people. Not only is
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  Speaker 7: he wrecking the economy, but he's also trashing his own credibility.
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  Speaker 7: And this Prime Minister lurches from one disaster to the next.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Prime Minister and his office did no interviews
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  Speaker 3: today and none yesterday, but they've made me he answering
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  Speaker 3: various media questions away from the cameras and the microphones
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  Speaker 3: and putting all the responses together. It seems that five
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  Speaker 3: days into this controversy, the PM has finally declared that
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  Speaker 3: neither he nor his office contacted anyone at Quantas to
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  Speaker 3: ask for upgrades. Now that raises the obvious question about
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  Speaker 3: how on earth these upgrades happened, and it means Albanezi
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  Speaker 3: will be in big strife if any information or records
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  Speaker 3: contradict that denial. And it also calls into question this
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  Speaker 3: intriguing answer from his media conference in Newcastle on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 8: Did you call Alan Joyce personally for these upgrades?
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  Speaker 9: But the Idea Conas have a number in terms of
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  Speaker 9: bookings that are private bookings.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so there was a phone number for private bookings. Apparently,
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  Speaker 3: as I said last night, what was that number? Who
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  Speaker 3: answered it? Which Quantus executive and who rang it? If
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  Speaker 3: nobody made any requests, what was the point of mentioning
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  Speaker 3: that number. We deserve to know what was that phone
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  Speaker 3: number and whose phone did it reach? I mean it
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  Speaker 3: surely wasn't this one, was it?
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  Speaker 10: How about Control Central? This is age in eighty six.
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  Speaker 1: No, that can't be it.
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  Speaker 3: Someone would have seen Albo pulling off his shoe.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this was it. Yes, that man Robin or chump.
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  Speaker 3: No, I can't think of anyone at Quantus by the
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  Speaker 3: name of Robin.
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  Speaker 11: Perhaps it was an old fashioned phone like this one.
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  Speaker 3: Well, a big controversy deserves a big phone.
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  Speaker 1: We just don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But it was Alban Easy who mentioned a phone number.
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  Speaker 3: There was them PM himself, the Prime Minister of this country,
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  Speaker 3: who said there were calls about private bookings.
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  Speaker 1: So he really should tell us more.
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  Speaker 3: You see, he's not fronted the media since his train
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  Speaker 3: wreck media conference in Newcastle on Tuesday. In fact, that
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  Speaker 3: afternoon he flew to aubury Wodonga on the New South
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  Speaker 3: Wales Victoria border with his Climate and Energy Minister Chris
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  Speaker 3: Bowen to announce a project with a pet food company.
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  Speaker 1: The local media.
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  Speaker 3: Was asked the day before by the Prime Minister's office
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  Speaker 3: about local issues they might want to ask the PM about,
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  Speaker 3: but on the day there was no press conference from
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  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister. He just flew into town, did a
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  Speaker 3: few events, posed for pictures and refused to to any
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  Speaker 3: questions from the local media, who weren't impressed by their treatment.
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  Speaker 3: The Border Mail Xavier Mardling wrote a scathing column. If
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  Speaker 3: mister Albanezi isn't capable of deviating from the script of
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  Speaker 3: sprooking the government's investment at a pet food factory, he
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  Speaker 3: might as well have flown straight back into his Canmebra
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  Speaker 3: bubble from Newcastle and avoided the border altogether.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Prime Minister is running scared. He can't do
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  Speaker 1: that much longer. The energy.
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  Speaker 3: But the energy debate is continuing and I had to
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  Speaker 3: laugh at a story that's been running on the ABC
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  Speaker 3: and in the nine newspapers. The reports have been aimed
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  Speaker 3: at undermining the coalition's nuclear energy policy. The Coalition has
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  Speaker 3: cited the huge and industrialized Canadian province of Ontario as
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  Speaker 3: a good example of where nuclear power provides affordable, reliable,
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  Speaker 3: and emissions very electricity. But the ABC and the nine
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  Speaker 3: newspapers have been busy quoting a Canadian expert who highlights
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  Speaker 3: the role of electricity subsidies in that province totally more
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  Speaker 3: than seven billion dollars a year. This is supposed to
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  Speaker 3: prove that nuclear is uneconomic. I guess as if a
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  Speaker 3: province would be deliberately harming itself in its economy.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason this makes me.
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  Speaker 3: Laugh is because our current electricity market in Australia, we
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  Speaker 3: are in the middle of this supposed transition to renewables. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's driven primarily by subsidies. If subsidies in Ontario are
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  Speaker 3: a warning against nuclear energy, why aren't subsidies here warning
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  Speaker 3: against our own national renewable energy self harm. The Center
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  Speaker 3: for Independent Studies has totaled the federal government's renewable subsidies
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  Speaker 3: over the past decade at more than twenty nine billion dollars.
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  Speaker 3: That's almost three billion dollars a year. And that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: include state government subsidies, and it doesn't include huge government
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  Speaker 3: expenses like the fifteen or twenty billion dollars they're spending
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  Speaker 3: on snowy two point zero. All the hundreds of millions
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  Speaker 3: of dollars being paid to coal fired power stations to
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  Speaker 3: stay open because renewables aren't doing the job, and it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't count the three point five billion dollars the alban
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  Speaker 3: Easy government is spending this year on electricity bill rebates
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  Speaker 3: subsidies to help households and artificially keep inflation down because
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  Speaker 3: its renewables plus storage model is in a shambles. So
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  Speaker 3: a modest estimate for this year alone would place our
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  Speaker 3: electricity subsidies at something close to ten billion dollars. So, yes,
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  Speaker 3: renewable energy zealots, talk to us about subsidies. Remove them
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  Speaker 3: all and remove the ban on nuclear power and let's
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  Speaker 3: see what the market might deliver. Let's bring in a
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  Speaker 3: national ZMP. Keith Pitt joining us live from Sydney tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Keith. Let's go to Albow first.
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  Speaker 3: I'll get to energy in a moment, but let's go.
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  Speaker 1: To Albo and the flights. Well, what do you see
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  Speaker 1: is the key question for him to answer.
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  Speaker 12: Chris, I saw your intro and you missed one the
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  Speaker 12: code of silence from Get Smart. Maybe the call was
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  Speaker 12: made inside of that, but mate, you've been around a
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  Speaker 12: while when MUD's flying and MUD's been slung, everyone gets sprayed.
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  Speaker 12: And in politics, I think everyone's going to take a
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  Speaker 12: hit here and there'll be lots of people declaring upgrades
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  Speaker 12: I think over coming days and weeks. I don't think
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  Speaker 12: I've got any from what I remember, and I've got
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  Speaker 12: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of flights. And the Australian
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  Speaker 12: people they'll work this out. They'll decide whether they are
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  Speaker 12: happy with the Prime Minister or not when the election
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  Speaker 12: comes around.
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  Speaker 1: They won't forget. Yeah, well, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think the damage has been done to him already, and
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  Speaker 3: you're right, politicians, and there will be some who have
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  Speaker 3: got snouts in the trough.
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  Speaker 1: We all know that. And they're trying to smear.
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  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton because he's got a lift from a private
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  Speaker 3: jet from Gina Ryan Harper. That's all declared and that's upfront,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the whole point. But what smells about this
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  Speaker 3: is a transport minister getting upgrades to private, private to
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  Speaker 3: travel and of course the fact that he's asked for
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  Speaker 3: it now he said now through these very not in
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  Speaker 3: front of the cameras, but through lots of answers from
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  Speaker 3: him and his office to various media organizations. It seems
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  Speaker 3: like he has denied at any time, either he or
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  Speaker 3: his office requesting an upgrade from anyone at Quantas.
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  Speaker 1: So it's pretty it's a pretty complete denial, now, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: So do you just move on unless someone comes up
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  Speaker 3: with something to contradict.
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  Speaker 12: That, Well, under the ministerial standards when you're in government,
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  Speaker 12: that's clearly something you can't do now. Whether that's retrospective
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  Speaker 12: and there's something that can happen ten years down the trail,
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  Speaker 12: the short answer is I don't know, but I think
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  Speaker 12: you know. This one stinks and it's just another in
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  Speaker 12: the long list of challenges that the federal labor government
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  Speaker 12: have in terms of their reputation. And never forget, Chris,
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  Speaker 12: the important stuff that's going on. No one's talking about
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  Speaker 12: that at all, cost of living, power prices, people who
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  Speaker 12: can't get a house, people who can't afford a house.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I want to get to a power price.
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  Speaker 12: Looking about in these debates, you heard what I.
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  Speaker 3: Had to say about subsidies and how our system is
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  Speaker 3: replete with them now driven trying to drive the switch
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  Speaker 3: to renewables.
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  Speaker 1: There's been reports out.
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  Speaker 3: Today showing that wholesale electricity prices went up dramatically in winter.
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  Speaker 3: That could push up power prices the latest the next
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  Speaker 3: round of power price increases. I note that those power
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  Speaker 3: price increases were steepest in South Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Yet again, this is the state with.
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  Speaker 3: The highest penetration of renewables. When are we going to
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  Speaker 3: actually admit that putting more and more renewables in is
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  Speaker 3: not driving prices down.
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  Speaker 12: Well, firstly, that's not at the mission Chris Barnes ever
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  Speaker 12: going to make. But it's obvious that these are the facts.
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  Speaker 12: Where there is more intermittent wind and solar, the price
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  Speaker 12: is higher, it's not cheaper, and the wholesale price is
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  Speaker 12: much higher, and that will flow on to retail prices
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  Speaker 12: next year. And I did the same sums in terms
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  Speaker 12: of subsidy, I got twenty seven and a half billion,
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  Speaker 12: So that's about right. I can build a lot of
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  Speaker 12: power stations with twenty seven billion dollars. Chris, I think
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  Speaker 12: they should set one up for me and I'll go
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  Speaker 12: and do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just incredible the amount of money. This is
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  Speaker 1: the thing. There's a lot of focus on the cost.
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  Speaker 3: Of nuclear, which there should be, but no one's costing
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  Speaker 3: what we're doing at the moment, which is just you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, eyewatering. Thanks for joining us, Keith, Happy Halloween, well
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  Speaker 1: great William.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Keith Pitt there in Sydney, and he's of course
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  Speaker 3: a Queensland MP.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to the US now, and.
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  Speaker 3: There's only six ky these days to go now until
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  Speaker 3: the US election. Donald Trump was in Wisconsin and yesterday
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  Speaker 3: out time, and he's been taking full advantage of Joe
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  Speaker 3: Biden's dopey remark about Trump supporters being garbage.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I have a listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: And I have to begin by saying, two hundred and
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  Speaker 4: fifty million Americans are not garbage. This week, Kamala has
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  Speaker 4: been comparing her political opponents to the most evil mass murderers.
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  Speaker 13: In history, and now, speaking on a call for her
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  Speaker 13: campaign last night, crooked Joe Biden finally said what he
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  Speaker 13: and Kamala really think of our supporters.
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  Speaker 4: He called them garbage.
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  Speaker 1: No way, no way. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the sitting president, sleepy Joe Biden, he's hardly figured
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  Speaker 3: in this campaign, and his intervention is exactly the sort
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  Speaker 3: of hope that Kamala Harris doesn't need. Laura Jays is
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  Speaker 3: taking it all in from Michigan.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, that's writing hasn't featured much in this campaign. It's
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  Speaker 14: like they just threw a Machingle's kind of like that
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  Speaker 14: family member that's a strange Christmas comes around and think, oh,
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  Speaker 14: you know, he's been in the sin bin for a
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  Speaker 14: couple of Christmases. Now let's just invite him. He can't
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  Speaker 14: be that bad. And then he's unleash and he does
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  Speaker 14: something like that. It does not help the Karmala campaign
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  Speaker 14: at all. And in these dying days of the campaign,
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  Speaker 14: these kinds of things really matter because it is so tight.
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  Speaker 14: The polls are showing it is so tight, and the
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  Speaker 14: momentum has really shifted this week between Trump and Carmela
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  Speaker 14: as well. You know you shop with those comments at
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  Speaker 14: Madison Square Garden that was from that warm up comedian
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  Speaker 14: that was for days and days ads made all the
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  Speaker 14: talkback TV and radio stations. We're talking about it. Then
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  Speaker 14: enter Joe Biden. So look, it just stools the momentum
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  Speaker 14: a bit, and it just means that everyone gets gets
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  Speaker 14: a bit off message for a couple of hours or
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  Speaker 14: a couple of days. And I'm sure for the Kamala
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  Speaker 14: campaign it is annoying.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's more than annoying as devastating to
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  Speaker 3: a degree, isn't it, because it confirms a preconception about
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  Speaker 3: the Democrats looking down, sneering down at ordinary voters, especially
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  Speaker 3: Trump voters. Of course, Hillary Clinton had the same problem.
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  Speaker 3: And Donald Trump. You know, he's just across Lake Michigan
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  Speaker 3: from you in nearby Wisconsin campaigning, as is Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, he's the master about turning this sort of
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  Speaker 3: a gaff into a big positive for him. He was
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: out and about in a dump truck today, climbs up
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: into a dump trunk, a garbage truck, focusing on the
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  Speaker 3: garbage metaphor, of course, and hitting back. Even he hopped
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: up into this truck. As we can see, he had
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  Speaker 3: a few words to say too. Have a listen, how
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  Speaker 3: do you.
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  Speaker 6: Like my garbage truck?
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  Speaker 4: This truck is an honor of Kamala and Joe Bacon.
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  Speaker 1: So he's got the pictures there, Laura.
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  Speaker 3: The message is strong, and here's the message in his speech.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to what he says. The Democrats are saying to Americans.
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  Speaker 4: My response to Joe and Kamala is very simple. You
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  Speaker 4: can't lead America if you don't love Americans.
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  Speaker 15: It's true.
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  Speaker 4: You can't be president if you hate the American people,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: which I believe they do.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Well. Laura, how does Kamala Harris count that?
• 20:26
  Speaker 14: Yeah, well, look the thing is, it wasn't her, It
• 20:31
  Speaker 14: was Joe Biden. And it reminds everyone, I guess in
• 20:35
  Speaker 14: some ways why Joe Biden was rolled and Kamala Harris
• 20:39
  Speaker 14: is now the presidential candidate. So perhaps they can turn
• 20:43
  Speaker 14: that into a positive somehow on that. But it does
• 20:46
  Speaker 14: bring back those memories of Hillary. The deplorables lost her
• 20:50
  Speaker 14: the campaign, they lost her the presidency, and that comment
• 20:54
  Speaker 14: was just diabolical in places like where I am here
• 20:58
  Speaker 14: in the Blue Wall in Detroit, in the state of Michigan.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Do they give it?
• 21:03
  Speaker 14: You know, They've got to now judge whether they give
• 21:06
  Speaker 14: it a lot of credence, whether they kind of try
• 21:09
  Speaker 14: and bury it or they just try and ignore it
• 21:12
  Speaker 14: all together.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: But it does go to what.
• 21:15
  Speaker 14: People in this state. People in this state of Michigan
• 21:18
  Speaker 14: and other states like it, think that the Democrats think
• 21:21
  Speaker 14: of them and that is their elite, that they somehow
• 21:24
  Speaker 14: think they're better than them. And it matters. Back in
• 21:27
  Speaker 14: twenty sixteen, Hillary lost this state to Donald Trump by
• 21:33
  Speaker 14: something like ten thousand votes. There's not much in it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so important, is it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Wisconsin and Michigan both lost to Donald Trump by Hillary Clinton.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton famously didn't campaign in Michigan. She ignored it
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: and lost it. Now you're there now in Detroit. Obviously
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden wanted back in twenty twenty. It's crucial for
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris to hang on to Michigan now as industrial
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: industrial state, a lot of workers, a lot of factory work.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Also a lot of Muslim migrants.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Who might be swayed by what's happening in the Middle
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: East of the moment. You've been stampling opinion around Detroit.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Tell us what you've picked up from voters today.
• 22:13
  Speaker 14: Yeah, let me just give you a bit of a flavor.
• 22:15
  Speaker 14: It's only fifteen Electoral College votes. Where right on the
• 22:18
  Speaker 14: border with Canada here Detroit, you know, the motor City.
• 22:21
  Speaker 14: The other major factor here is a city just about
• 22:24
  Speaker 14: half an hour from here.
• 22:25
  Speaker 15: It's called Dearborn.
• 22:26
  Speaker 14: It's one hundred and ten thousand people in that city,
• 22:29
  Speaker 14: and it is mostly Muslim Arab population.
• 22:33
  Speaker 15: And this is.
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: The biggest Muslim Arab city in the whole of the
• 22:36
  Speaker 14: United States got the biggest mosque, and it has quite
• 22:39
  Speaker 14: a bit of sway. Those voters are usually Democrat this
• 22:44
  Speaker 14: time around. What's happened between the last election and now
• 22:48
  Speaker 14: is the Gaza war has broken out. Kamala Harris is
• 22:51
  Speaker 14: coppying a lot of heat for that because she's part
• 22:54
  Speaker 14: of the current administration. Those people do not think this
• 22:58
  Speaker 14: administration has done enough. What it's done is it's splitting
• 23:01
  Speaker 14: the vote many ways. Democrats won't even endorse Kamala Harris.
• 23:07
  Speaker 14: Some are looking to Trump, some won't vote at all,
• 23:10
  Speaker 14: and others are looking for a third party candidate who
• 23:13
  Speaker 14: happens to be a Jewish Green. So that's what you're
• 23:16
  Speaker 14: dealing with here. And when it comes down to just
• 23:18
  Speaker 14: maybe a thousand and ten twenty thousand votes these that
• 23:24
  Speaker 14: city matters so much.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And not only that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 14: What's happened, Chris is the Democrats who don't want to
• 23:31
  Speaker 14: endorse Karmala don't want a campaign. It's taken a lot
• 23:35
  Speaker 14: of that leg workout. So they're not door knocking, they're
• 23:37
  Speaker 14: not just not voting, they're not rallying their community.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that really hurts.
• 23:42
  Speaker 14: I think Kamala Harris is going to have a real
• 23:44
  Speaker 14: problem here, and they're looking to Trump, not from what
• 23:47
  Speaker 14: he said, but what they think he might do. There's
• 23:50
  Speaker 14: a lot of people I spoke today but believe his like, oh,
• 23:53
  Speaker 14: he'll end the war, and I can't believe he's going
• 23:55
  Speaker 14: to stand by and let Israel do this. He'll stand
• 23:59
  Speaker 14: up world leaders. So that's the kind of view that
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: you're getting here, and it is so desparate. It's split
• 24:05
  Speaker 14: that city.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Absolutely fascinating stuff, Laura, And as you say, Kamala Harris
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: really needs Michigan and Wisconsin. We'll see how it plays out.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: To catch up with you again, thanks for joining us.
• 24:16
  Speaker 14: Thanks for having me, Chreez. Good to see you.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Fascinating time saying. Now coming up Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Plenty to get through with them, including a woman.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Who lost her arm to her dog. She's not cranky
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: at him.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: This is the part of the week where we solve
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: all the big problems of the world with Tim Blair
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: from the Daily Telegraph joining us from the Wimmera in
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Western Victoria and Martin Nicholson from step Mate Studios joining
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: us from the Heart of the Beast in Melbourne. Good
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: to talk to both of you, I want to start
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: in Melbourne, and I dip some lid to my colleague
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Damon Johnson at The Australian for persisting with this, trying
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: to get this information through FOI applications from the victory
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Ian government. And it was how that they were working
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: out how to deal with the Victorian population during the pandemic.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: One of the categories that.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Has been censored all this while we now know it
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: was the category of people they called the pig headed
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: know it alls who they couldn't really convince to buckle
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: under to the curfuse and lockdowns. Mark, were you one
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: of these pig headed know it alls?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I wish, I wish.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: I like to think of myself as a blake that
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: wouldn't listen to the government and he's his own man.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: But all they needed to do was say do you
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: want to have a beer, and I was straight back
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: into compliance mode. That's what suck, That's what hurt most
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: about this is that I wasn't in category one. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: was definitely in category one or two, not category three.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: The pig headed know it all. Give me, give me
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: a ves research.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Give me a vaccine mandate so I can get to
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the pub please you were one of that models.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: That's all. It was one beer, That's all I needed
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to do. What a shallow threat.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Because the joke on the politics here, especially the Andrews
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Labor government tim is that the pig headed know it
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: alls didn't know it all.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: They were right. The government was all over the shop.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 26:10
  Speaker 16: And although although like Mark, I'm not in the category,
• 26:14
  Speaker 16: I do wish to be and I am going to
• 26:16
  Speaker 16: buy the T shirt. I think I think Melbourne will
• 26:18
  Speaker 16: look a lot better with half the population wandering around
• 26:21
  Speaker 16: with pig headed know it all on their T shirts or.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Just a T shirt that says what was the thing?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Category three?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Was that it?
• 26:27
  Speaker 16: Or subcy I reckon Category three? I reckon we should
• 26:32
  Speaker 16: all sign up to that.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And yeah they did get a lot of it, right.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: What about one that just says I'm still suspicious about
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: the bike crash?
• 26:44
  Speaker 16: What about what about one that just says vote step.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, you've got to think that one through. But you
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: were on the side of the step there. That's a
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: bit cruel.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Staying in Melbourne, the lead singer of Radiohead was confronted
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: from his concert in Melbourne last night by you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: an anti Israel pro Palestinian protester and it ended the concert.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Have a look.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Stage, I say what you want to say, don't stay there, Kilo.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Everyone come there and let's see it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 15: Well, everybody's name.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Come on, we're.
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: Sighted Gaza.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Oh he goes, now now to him, people are there
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: to see music, not to hear politics from this guy.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So he walks off stage. I'm surprised they didn't all
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: turn around unlynched the protester.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like, doesn't anyone understand venues anymore?
• 27:59
  Speaker 16: I mean, you go to an art gallery and if
• 28:02
  Speaker 16: you're upset about climate change, he throw soup at a painting.
• 28:05
  Speaker 16: You go to a radio Head concert and it turns
• 28:08
  Speaker 16: into a forum about the war in Gaza.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: What's going to happen this cricket season? Seriously? Football match
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: is going to break out. Nothing's making a lot of
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: logical sense of this.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I suppose you could flip this radio head on
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: it's around and go to a Palestinian protest mark and
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: start singing I'm a creep.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: That's true, that's true, Karma police. I'm sure, as you said,
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: that guy probably got lynched as well. It's karma police.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: It a Radiohead tune, But you know what I really
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: like about what Tom Yorke did there Fellas, and it
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: sort of speaks volumes here. He gave the bloke a
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: platform to say something there, he actually gave him the stage.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Didn't take it up, didn't take it. All of this
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: is about disruption, that's all what it is exactly. And
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: these people are doing the same thing with buskers down
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: in the city of Melbourne. They're doing the same thing.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: They're saying, oh, your silence is definiting, but they've got
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: nothing to say themselves.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: He says, he you take your mind, you're doing the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: right thing. You say, yeah, have you say? They move on,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: but they haven't got the balls to do that. Just pathetic.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Now, we often talk about animal husbandry seemingly in this segment,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Want to know.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not a great dog lover, as you know, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of dog lovers get cranky at
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: their dogs because they dig up the back lawn, or
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: poop in the wrong place, or chew up the kid's shoes.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I want to show you a woman who's got a
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: real cause to have grievance with her dog.
• 29:26
  Speaker 17: For seven years, Buddy was his owner's faithful friend until
• 29:30
  Speaker 17: the day, he snapped and almost killed her.
• 29:33
  Speaker 18: As traumatic obviously in the fact that I lost my dog,
• 29:38
  Speaker 18: lost my mom.
• 29:39
  Speaker 17: Ande Marie claims it was the sound of someone bashing
• 29:42
  Speaker 17: on her front door that's set off the mixed breed ridgeback.
• 29:45
  Speaker 18: He loaned through the air and I had enough time
• 29:48
  Speaker 18: to spin around and grab him, and he just went
• 29:50
  Speaker 18: into a frenzy and he pulled back three times and
• 29:53
  Speaker 18: off goes arm. I was a little bit relieved once
• 29:56
  Speaker 18: I come off, because it was, you know, less pain.
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: Obviously losing leaters of blood by this second.
• 30:02
  Speaker 18: I was like, oh, this is going to be a
• 30:03
  Speaker 18: great and we're n I loan.
• 30:05
  Speaker 17: Somehow, Anne Marie managed to call triple zero rush to
• 30:08
  Speaker 17: Townsville University Hospital for emergency surgery.
• 30:12
  Speaker 18: Dad told me that I had actually died twice during
• 30:15
  Speaker 18: the operation.
• 30:16
  Speaker 17: Back at her home, the dog was shot dead by
• 30:19
  Speaker 17: police bullet holes, a grizzly reminder of the bloodshed.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Do you blame buddy, No, No, I don't, not one bed.
• 30:26
  Speaker 18: He's an animal.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Jeepers, creepers.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Thank god they got rid of the dog, tim but
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: she lost her arm. Imagine if some kid had knocked
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: on the door trying to sell guide biscuits, girl guide
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: biscuits or something.
• 30:40
  Speaker 16: Yes, that story. There's so many more questions to be asked,
• 30:44
  Speaker 16: you know. But also hats off to the victim there
• 30:49
  Speaker 16: for an incredibly stoic attitude for losing a limb. I mean,
• 30:54
  Speaker 16: letting the dog off as a kind of a source
• 30:56
  Speaker 16: of her pain is one thing. But that's when you've got,
• 31:00
  Speaker 16: I guess, the stoicism to recognize that losing an arm
• 31:03
  Speaker 16: actually ends the pain or reduces it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: That's a one tough human being.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Good lord, tough all right, and tougher right. They worries
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: me these dogs around. That's one lesson than I suppose.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: But an arm's gone with it. Shocking stuff.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Now, I want to go to US politics because it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: getting increasingly bizarre.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Mark.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: We all know about the pain that Joe Biden has
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: called Kamala Harris by calling Trumps supporters.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Garbage, but have a look at this.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: There's a Halloween start out the White House with a
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: little kid dressed up as a turkey. Joe Biden's biting
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the kid, biting the kid's leg. Now, I would have
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: thought Tablo Harris is pretty happy, happy about this, because
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: as long as he's got something in his mouth.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: He's not saying the wrong thing. Here is biting another name.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: Have a look at it. It's so it's pretty clear
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: at this point. I think he's deliberately sabotaging the Harris campaign.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And I love it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: I absolutely love it. Like he's coming out and calling
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: Trump supporters garbage in direct contrast to what she's pretending
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: to be. It's you know, Trump actually put it best
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: the other day. He was like, you know, I hated
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: him when he was running, but now that he's gone
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: and I love him, and I'm kind of feeling the same.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Biting kids, not sniffing kids, saying the wrong thing. It's
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: just it's brilliant. It's classic Biden. And he's done wonders
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: for the Trump campaign.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: He sure has, and tim What I love about it, too,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: is the way he and the White House now twist
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: themselves in knots trying to say what he said.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: They're trying to pretend he didn't say it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 16: And they're coming out with a possessive apostrophe in a
• 32:35
  Speaker 16: transcript and pointing at that instead of.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Like she's just showing the video what he says. You know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: your garbage.
• 32:41
  Speaker 16: By the way, Joe Biden in his retirement when he
• 32:44
  Speaker 16: eventually does make it through the January. You don't want
• 32:46
  Speaker 16: to try that if he comes out here in Townsville,
• 32:49
  Speaker 16: you know, like the jacks will turn up and shoot
• 32:51
  Speaker 16: you for that sort of cape. Look at him, Look
• 32:53
  Speaker 16: at him going to bite. That's bullet worthy behavior.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Up north, they'll tell you what creepers.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to get back to domestic politics quickly
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: because I showed at the top of the show that
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: we sold the riddle about Elbow's hotline to Quantas.
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: Here it is, how about control santral This is age
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: and eighty six.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: As easy as that would mark you just click off
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: your shoe and call out and joyce.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Mate.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Anyone would think you're in the step MAT's rider's room
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: at this point.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Mate.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: We've we literally add this this discussion just the other day.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: It's terrifying.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: I don't know, remember there's a bug in there.
• 33:43
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: Look, my thought is it's the minutia of how we
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: got these upgrades and whatever. It's kind of beyond the
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: beyond the point for me. It's just between the house,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: these upgrades. This you know, this obsession with sitting at
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: the front end of the plane. It really just tells
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: you that Anthony alpineasy thinks is better than you and
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: wants to make sure that you know that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And that's what it speaks.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: That's where it really speaks to I think all of
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: this stuff, and it's always just shocks me just how
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: low the bar is for these people to sell out
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: their integrity. It stinks, like quantus domestic business absolutely stinks.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: It's not worth putting your career on it and throwing
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: your whole integrity on the line. It absolutely stinks. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: guess the international upgrades are nice, but I can't believe
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: this is what they're willing to do.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I think you've just killed off your next Upbrade there, Mark,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: brilliantly done.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I'll see you down the back of the plane. Thanks
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: for joining us, Mark Giglson and Tim Blair. Catch up
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: with you next week.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I have a great weekend, a great Halloween. We've got
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: to take a break. On the other side of that,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: we're going to go back to the US. I'm going
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: to catch up Miranda with Miranda Divine in New York City.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Out here new book on the Biden family, business and
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: political cover ups. Our good friend and stellar journalist Miranda
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Devine launched her latest book in New York City yesterday
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: and a famous guest turned up, the former key Donald
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Trump political advisor, Steve Bannon, fresh from serving a jail
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: term for contempt of Congress. Miranda's latest book is The
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Big Guy. How a President and his son sold out America.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: And this was all happening as the Big Guy. President
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden had entered the political campaign in a big
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: way with his garbage comment, so very much in a
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: way that's been unhelpful for his vice president Kamala Harris.
• 35:33
  Speaker 15: Yes, he sure has.
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: He seems too at sort of inopportune moments of the
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: campaign to just decide to bigfoot her.
• 35:41
  Speaker 15: I don't think he.
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: Likes being relegated to a big player in the Democrat
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: sort of story at the moment.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: She still is.
• 35:50
  Speaker 15: President until January twenty, twenty twenty five.
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: And I think he finds it quite insulting that Kamala
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: Harris is, by necessity trying to distance herself from him.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Now, nobody has delved into the Biden family its business dealings,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: it's political missteps.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Better than you.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Your book, The Laptop from Hell, was a best seller.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Of course, this is a story he help break on
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: the eve of the last election. We know that the
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: mainstream media and the digital tech giants buried the story,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: and the security agencies were of course complicit in burying
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: this story that we now know was true. Tell us
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: about this latest book, The Big Guy, and what it
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: reveals about the serving president and his family.
• 36:38
  Speaker 15: Look, you set it up perfectly there, Chris.
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: It's really a story of the cover up of the
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: original tale of corruption, which I told in Laptop from Hell.
• 36:47
  Speaker 15: And I think, just like Watergate, the tale of the
• 36:51
  Speaker 15: cover up.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: Is a more important story, and it is about the CIA,
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: the FBI, the State Department, the Department of Justice, all
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: the sort of elements of the national security state in
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: the United States, all conspiring to protect Joe Biden, his
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: son Hunter, his brother Jim Biden from the consequences of
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: their reckless greed, and also to make sure that in
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: the twenty twenty election that the story that we were
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: at the New York Post uncovering three weeks before the election,
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: that that would not see the light of day, that
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: that would be censored by big tech, which is where.
• 37:31
  Speaker 15: We get most of our traction these days, and to.
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: Really ensure that their candidate, their favored candidate, Joe Biden
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: won and not Donald Trump. American foreign policy is dictated
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: by this group, and certainly under Barack Obama and under
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: Joe Biden, both those presidents were really the puppets of
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: what the Obama people used to call the blob. The
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: Trump people call the deep state, this sort of unaccountable
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: cabal that want to have a president that they can
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: control the foreign policy agenda for. And under Donald Trump,
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: you just saw was he is uncontrollable. He's been uncontrollable
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: since he was a child. That's both a blessing and
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: a curse. But in the foreign policy sphere when he
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: was president, it was actually a blessing because he just
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: approached every issue on first principles, like he did as
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: a property developer in.
• 38:33
  Speaker 15: Queens, New York, just using logic and common sense.
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: So he saw a problem and he just figured out
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: the best way, most effective way to fix it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 15: Putin did not invade his neighbors.
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: Like he did under Obama and like he did under Biden.
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: We saw Iran was broken and on its knees. Under
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: Trump was not able to pay its proxies to attack
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: Israel like they did last October seven. Last year, there
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: was the glimmerings of Middle East peace with the Abraham Accords,
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: and everyone's forgotten about ISIS, but that was a huge
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: deal back in the twenty sixteen and Donald Trump managed
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: to vanquish ISIS.
• 39:15
  Speaker 15: So all of these things he did on his.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: Own, without following the BLOB's agenda, And that's why they
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: regard him as an existential threat, not to democracy or
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: to America, like we're told, but to their power and
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: control over the presidency. And I honestly think if you're
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: sitting in Australia.
• 39:35
  Speaker 15: Or anywhere else in the world, you don't.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: Really want these people controlling foreign policy because they've not
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: done a good job.
• 39:41
  Speaker 15: And you can see now under Joe Biden the world
• 39:44
  Speaker 15: is on fire.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt the world was a safer place
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: under Donald Trump first time around, and I think you're
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: right it would be again if he returns to the
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: White House, whereas if Kamala Harris is elected, it'll be
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the same people in charge. When it comes to the
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: business feelings of the Biden family. There's so much information
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: from that laptop from Hell that's been in the public
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: domain that hasn't got enough attention. For instance, Joe Biden
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: said repeatedly he had no visibility, no involvement in his
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: son's business dealings, and then a voicemail like this came
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: up and put paid to that.
• 40:20
  Speaker 19: Kep powers Man, that's fifteen.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: On Wednesday.
• 40:26
  Speaker 19: A chance to be called. That's why I thought the
• 40:31
  Speaker 19: article at least depend on online. It's to be prints
• 40:34
  Speaker 19: one time as could and you can clear and anyway
• 40:41
  Speaker 19: he'd get a chance to be called.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I love it, Miranda. The evidence is so clear of
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the involvement. Now you've delved into this, You've spoken about
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: a coast to coast in the US. Tell us, how
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: has the Biden family become so rich because it hasn't
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: come from political salaries?
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: No, And look, you know, Joe Biden has been a
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: past master. From the beginning of his political career. There
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: were many donors that wanted to get favors from the
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: junior senator from Delaware, and that from his earlier stage
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: as a senator gave Joe Biden access to enormous amounts
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: of money and also just kind of quid pro quo
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: favors which he spread around his family and Hunter Biden
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: his wayward crackhead or Formert crackhead.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Have to be fair.
• 41:33
  Speaker 15: I think he's clean at the moment.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Son.
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: You know, he never had a job that his father
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: hadn't organized for him through his donors at inflated salaries
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: that you know, Hunter would pay off various family bills
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: like tuition bills for himself and his brother, maintenance on.
• 41:51
  Speaker 15: Joe's fast estate there.
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: But when Joe became vice president, he saw an opportunity
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: to expand this sort of local grift internationally, and Barack
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: Obama gave him carriage for very corrupt countries around the world,
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: whether it be China, Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Kazakhshtan, all these places.
• 42:15
  Speaker 15: His son Hunter swooped in behind his father and.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: Was given millions of dollars basically in return for favors
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: from his.
• 42:25
  Speaker 15: Father, which we don't know if strawdinary.
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: Many of those favors actually materialized, but certainly it was
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: the illusion of favors.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Fantastic stuff.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Miranda hot on the back of the laptop from Hell
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the Big Guy, how a president and his son sold
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: out America. Congratulations Miranda on the book and thanks for
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: catching up with us.
• 42:46
  Speaker 15: Thanks Chris.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: She's just killing it in the US is Miranda. Now
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: after the break, I have more on the Prime Minister's
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: upgrade disaster.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: He's still keeping low. Alexander Downer joins me.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Let's get back to the issue of our Prime minister,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: those quantus upgrades and that phone number he's been in
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: hiding again today, refusing to front the cameras and answer
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: simple questions. I've got a former Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer's
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: thoughts on just how much strife the PM is in.
• 43:21
  Speaker 20: I think it's doing him a lot of personal damage
• 43:24
  Speaker 20: from which I doubt that he will recover. I mean,
• 43:28
  Speaker 20: the trouble is, he hasn't had a simple and clear
• 43:31
  Speaker 20: explanation on day one. He's allowed this to drag on
• 43:36
  Speaker 20: and different stories are coming out of his word salad.
• 43:40
  Speaker 20: So I think it's doing him huge damage with the community, really,
• 43:45
  Speaker 20: and I mean I.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Think he'll really struggle lever to recover from this.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an attempt to sort of spread muck everywhere
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: I suppose to try and get him through it, and
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: pointing at all politicians and the chairman's lounge and upgrades. Now,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: obviously you were in the chairman's lounges when I worked
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: for you as Foreign Minister. I've been in the chairman's
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: louns with you. Most politicians go through the lounges of
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: the airlines.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Especially the Quantas chairman's lounges. The critical point here, there's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: two critical.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Points, really is that the allegation that he asked for
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: upgrades for his own personal travel.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Whether that was directly or by his staff, we don't know.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: But secondly, then he's so cozy with Quantas and then
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: he knocks back his government knocks back the request from
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Qatar Airways.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Are they the two critical points you think?
• 44:36
  Speaker 18: I do?
• 44:37
  Speaker 20: I think this whole question of who asked whom for
• 44:41
  Speaker 20: the upgrades, how that happened is very murky. I mean,
• 44:45
  Speaker 20: he wouldn't answer the question straight out, had he contacted
• 44:49
  Speaker 20: Alan Joyce and asked for an upgrade or not? Now
• 44:53
  Speaker 20: seems to be indicating that he personally didn't, But did
• 44:57
  Speaker 20: someone in his staff? And how did it all happened?
• 45:00
  Speaker 20: And he did have quite a few upgrades on private
• 45:03
  Speaker 20: travel because he wouldn't have needed upgrades on business travel,
• 45:08
  Speaker 20: on portfolio travel, because he would have gone business class
• 45:12
  Speaker 20: anyway on that sort of travel. So it's all very murky.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: This is my point.
• 45:20
  Speaker 20: He's not clear about it all, and I mean the
• 45:24
  Speaker 20: Chairman's lounger. All MP's past and present have been members
• 45:30
  Speaker 20: of the Chairman's Lounge. The great advantage of it is
• 45:33
  Speaker 20: it gives you much needed privacy.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: That's really the big.
• 45:38
  Speaker 20: Advantage of it. So and Virgin have some equivalent. I've
• 45:43
  Speaker 20: forgotten what it's called, but they have an equivalent as well.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Now let's switch you to US politics, because next time
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: we speak to you, the result will be in It's
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: been amazing to watch Joe Biden's intervention and calling Trump
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: supporters garbage. That's been devastating for the Democrat campaign the
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: dying days. But what I think is brilliant, of course,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: is the way Donald Trump seizes on that. And listening
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: to this comment from Donald Trump today, it's just the
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: perfect pitch, the perfect use of this Joe Biden misstep.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: My response to Joe and Kamala is very simple. You
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: can't lead America if you don't love Americans.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: You can't be president if you hate the American people,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: which I believe they do.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Love him or hate him. He really gets that stuff,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't he.
• 46:39
  Speaker 20: He's so nailed it. With those comments that will really
• 46:42
  Speaker 20: shift boats. I'm sorry to say, from Kamala Harris's point
• 46:47
  Speaker 20: of view, and for those of you who are watching
• 46:50
  Speaker 20: this program who had, you know, lifelong and enthusiastic supporters
• 46:55
  Speaker 20: of the Democrats, I think this is pretty much this
• 46:59
  Speaker 20: comment by Joe Biden has pretty much buried Kamala Harris's chances.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I also saw.
• 47:08
  Speaker 20: Visial of Donald Trump in a garbage truck, driving a
• 47:12
  Speaker 20: garbage truck. There's an American expression, if something goes terribly wrong,
• 47:17
  Speaker 20: it's a dumpster fire, and this really is a dumpster fire.
• 47:21
  Speaker 20: This is absolutely devastating in just a few days from
• 47:26
  Speaker 20: the election.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Hard yeah cover from this.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I think it is absolutely a dumpster fire, and Donald
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Trump has lashed onto it and amplified it brilliantly, as
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: you allude to with the dumpster trucker and the like.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: So so you're predicting a Trump victory, I mean, the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Poles would tend to suggest that we expect the Poles
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: usually to underestimate the Republican vote, but it looks like
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: he's actually killing it in most of the swing.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: States, right.
• 47:54
  Speaker 20: I'm not sure whether this time the polls will underestimate
• 47:59
  Speaker 20: his vote because the polsters have made adjustments. But I
• 48:03
  Speaker 20: do think they're having much more difficulty polling people given
• 48:07
  Speaker 20: the changes of technology. My antennae on the basis of
• 48:13
  Speaker 20: just watching this election campaign from both within and outside
• 48:18
  Speaker 20: of the US, is that Trump will win because he
• 48:21
  Speaker 20: become He comes across as clearer, stronger, and more decisive.
• 48:26
  Speaker 20: Kamala Harris has you know, that's a wonderful expression. The
• 48:30
  Speaker 20: Americans use words salad. She stumbles over her words. It's
• 48:36
  Speaker 20: hard to know what she's talking about, and she's very
• 48:39
  Speaker 20: if you like policy lights, you know she tells you
• 48:42
  Speaker 20: she comes from a middle class family with a lorn
• 48:46
  Speaker 20: in front of the house or something. Her father, by
• 48:48
  Speaker 20: the way, was a was a Stanford economics professor, so
• 48:52
  Speaker 20: they weren't just an ordinary middle class family.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: But she labors those sorts of points.
• 48:58
  Speaker 20: And doesn't talk about policies that might affect the American people.
• 49:03
  Speaker 20: I think she's proving to be Look, I could be wrong,
• 49:06
  Speaker 20: but I think she's too weak at candidate. I think
• 49:09
  Speaker 20: Trump has trampled on her rarely politically speaking.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: We'll see what next week holds. Thanks for joining us, Alexander.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: It's a pleasure. Chris it sure is fascinating.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a big week next week, but
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I want to bring it back to domestic politics now
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: and share some of your feedback. When it comes to
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Albow and the qualits upgrades, one viewer says he can run,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: but he can't hide.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Albou must be sacked and stripped of his political pension,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: all of it.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: It's a bit harsh. Simon says, it's how socialists operate.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Get what you can for yourself and minimize the rest.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Another viewer says Albow is a grifter and feathering his nest.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: It's all about him and he's doone nothing for the
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Australian people except make life a misery. And one more
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: here of yours says, let me guess he's hiding out
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: on an air bus. Thanks for joining me. Stay tuned tonight.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Big week next week with the US election. Credlin coming
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: up next with Peter Credlin