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Dragnet: The Big Hate (EP5084) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: THE END.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio. From Boise, Idaho,
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  Speaker 2: this is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're
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  Speaker 2: per month. Just go to patreon.greatdetectives.net. Now, from July 10th, 1952,
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  Speaker 2: here is The Big Hate.
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  Speaker 4: The story you are about to hear is true.
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  Speaker 3: The names have been changed to protect the innocent.
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  Speaker 4: The Big Hate.
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  Speaker 3: You're a detective sergeant.
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  Speaker 5: You're assigned a homicide detail.
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  Speaker 4: A 25-year-old man is found hiding in a freight car
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  Speaker 4: in a deserted train yard. In his arms, he holds
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  Speaker 4: the body of a dead woman. The victim's identity is unknown.
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  Speaker 4: The suspect refuses to talk. Your job?
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  Speaker 5: Investigate.
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  Speaker 1: Dragnet.
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  Speaker 6: The documented drama of an actual crime. For the next
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  Speaker 6: 30 minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,
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  Speaker 6: you will travel step by step on the side of
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  Speaker 6: the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files.
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  Speaker 6: From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is
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  Speaker 6: the story of your police force in action.
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  Speaker 3: It was Tuesday, January 18th. It was cold in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 7: We were working the night watch out of homicide detail.
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  Speaker 7: My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Warman. My
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  Speaker 7: name's Friday. I was on the way back from the
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  Speaker 7: record bureau, and it was 10.38 p.m. when I got
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  Speaker 7: to room 42. Homicide detail.
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  Speaker 3: Joe?
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  Speaker 7: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: Did they cop out to anything yet? Nothing.
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  Speaker 5: I keep asking him questions. Might as well be talking
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  Speaker 5: to myself. He might be in a state of shock.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 5: You got anything on him from R & I?
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  Speaker 3: No, he's clean. You and Stahl want to get over
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  Speaker 3: to the morgue, roll the dead woman's prints?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure. Maybe you'll have better luck with it. See
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  Speaker 5: you later.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. Here's your driver's license, Gordon. Better put it
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  Speaker 3: back in your wallet.
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  Speaker 5: Gordon?
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  Speaker 2: Gordon?
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  Speaker 3: Put it back in your wallet.
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  Speaker 7: Now look, son, I don't think you're helping yourself much
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  Speaker 7: by keeping quiet.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of explaining to be done here. I'm
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  Speaker 3: afraid you're the only one that can do it.
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  Speaker 5: Gordon?
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  Speaker 7: All right, son, it's just a matter of time. You're
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  Speaker 7: going to have to tell somebody sooner or later. Why
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  Speaker 7: don't you tell us now? Come on, what do you say? Well, look, son,
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  Speaker 7: I'll tell you the truth. I don't get the reasoning
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  Speaker 7: behind all this. We know there's nothing wrong with you.
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  Speaker 7: We know you can talk, all right. You talked to
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  Speaker 7: the officers in the radio car who brought you in.
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  Speaker 7: You know as well as I do, you're going to
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  Speaker 7: have to explain what's happened here. You're going to have
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  Speaker 7: to explain that dead body. You want to get it
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  Speaker 7: over with now? Look, Gordon, if you didn't kill the woman,
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  Speaker 7: you haven't anything to worry about. And if you did,
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  Speaker 7: we're going to find out anyway. Who was the woman, Gordon?
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  Speaker 7: Will you tell me that much?
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  Speaker 3: What's her name?
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  Speaker 7: You know her very long? Did you know her very long?
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  Speaker 7: What was she to you? Do you want to tell
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  Speaker 7: me that? She's a fairly middle-aged woman in her early 50s,
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  Speaker 7: I'd say.
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  Speaker 3: Is that about right? Was she your mother, Gordon? Older sister, maybe?
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  Speaker 3: Any relation at all? What's the matter, son? You feeling sick?
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  Speaker 3: How about a cigarette?
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Bother you if I smoke? I hope you haven't got
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  Speaker 3: the idea we're trying to trick you into anything, Gordon.
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  Speaker 7: We've got a dead woman on our hands here. We've
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  Speaker 7: got to find out why she's dead. Now, what do
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  Speaker 7: you say? No use looking up at the clock, son.
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  Speaker 7: We're stuck here till we find out about that woman.
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  Speaker 7: That goes for both of us.
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  Speaker 3: Homicide Friday. Oh, yeah, Jack. No, not right now. Ought
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  Speaker 3: to be back in about a half hour. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 3: half hour. Right, I'll tell them to call you. Bye.
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  Speaker 3: I got an idea, Gordon.
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 3: Might help set your mind at ease. Now, number one,
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  Speaker 3: if you think we're out to build.
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  Speaker 7: A frame against you on this thing, let me tell
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  Speaker 7: you that you're wrong, and I'll prove it to you, son.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to tell you exactly what we know about
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  Speaker 7: this case, everything. And when I'm finished, maybe you can
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  Speaker 7: fill in the blank spots for.
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  Speaker 5: Us, huh?
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  Speaker 3: What's the matter, you're heady? Some aspirin in my locker
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  Speaker 3: there if you want some.
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  Speaker 8: No?
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Here's all we know about it.
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  Speaker 7: One of our radio cars, 1A4, answered a call from
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  Speaker 7: the night watchman down in the freight yards.
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  Speaker 3: He told the officers that he'd.
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  Speaker 7: Spotted a man wandering around down at the far end
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  Speaker 7: of the train yards near the west gate. Watchman only
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  Speaker 7: saw him at a distance, but he said he could
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  Speaker 7: make out the man and that he saw that he
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  Speaker 7: had a woman with him. She must have either been
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  Speaker 7: sick or she had too much to drink because the
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  Speaker 7: man appeared to be dragging her along with him. The
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  Speaker 7: two of them disappeared behind a line of boxcars on
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  Speaker 7: the siding. When the watchman went out to look for
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  Speaker 7: the two people, he couldn't find them. Called a radio car,
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  Speaker 7: and when the officers got there, they started searching. I
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  Speaker 7: finally found you hiding back in the corner of an
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  Speaker 7: empty boxcar there.
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  Speaker 3: You were holding that dead woman in your arms.
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  Speaker 7: There wasn't anything the officers could see that might have
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  Speaker 7: caused the woman's death. There were no marks on the body,
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  Speaker 7: nothing visible anyway. When they tried to question you, all
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  Speaker 7: that you'd tell them was your name and that you
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  Speaker 7: didn't want to live, that you didn't care.
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  Speaker 3: What happened to you. That's about the size of it, Gordon.
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  Speaker 3: Did I leave anything out? Gordon?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There is something else.
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  Speaker 7: From what we could gather, the dead woman had been
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  Speaker 7: doing some drinking before she died. Matter of fact, looks
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  Speaker 7: like she was a pretty heavy drinker.
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  Speaker 3: And another thing.
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  Speaker 7: We know you and the woman got into the train
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  Speaker 7: yard down by the west gate. We know that you
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  Speaker 7: dragged your body across the freight yards to that empty boxcar.
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  Speaker 3: That they found you hiding in.
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  Speaker 7: The heel marks from her shoes lead from the sidewalk
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  Speaker 7: through the dirt directly to the door of that boxcar.
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  Speaker 3: We could see where you.
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  Speaker 7: Dragged your body from the door back to the corner
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  Speaker 7: of the car. Now, that's the whole story so far, Gordon.
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  Speaker 7: You want to fill in the rest?
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  Speaker 3: Son, how about it? Who is the woman? All right, look.
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  Speaker 7: How about these items we found in your pocket, Gordon?
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  Speaker 7: This address book here. Is this the woman's name in here?
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  Speaker 7: Or this handkerchief with a lipstick on it?
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  Speaker 3: Were you out with another girl tonight? Were you, son?
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  Speaker 3: If you were, it might help to tell us who
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  Speaker 3: she is. Do you hear me, son?
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  Speaker 7: How about this lady's ring you had in your pocket?
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  Speaker 7: Name Elizabeth engraved on the inside.
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  Speaker 3: Does that tie in at all, Gord? Who's it belong to?
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  Speaker 3: Homicide Friday. Oh, yeah, Frank. You got an ID on it?
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: H-O-F-F-M-A-N.
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  Speaker 3: 2N?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You going out there now? Okay, take O'Donnell with you, huh? Right,
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  Speaker 3: let me hear from him.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, not yet.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Bye.
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  Speaker 7: That was my partner, Gordon. The officer who was in
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  Speaker 7: here with you. They took the dead woman's fingerprints.
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  Speaker 3: They've got her identified, son.
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  Speaker 7: It's Elizabeth Hoffman, age 52 years, music teacher. Last known address,
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  Speaker 7: 5473 6th Avenue. They're on their way out there now
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  Speaker 7: to check it.
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  Speaker 3: All right, relax, Gordon. That window doesn't lead anywhere.
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  Speaker 7: Now, you want to take another look at this ring?
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  Speaker 7: You got a fair idea that it means something, Gordon.
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  Speaker 7: They examined the dead woman's hands. They know she was
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  Speaker 7: wearing a ring recently. Her name's Elizabeth Hoffman. Name Elizabeth
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  Speaker 7: engraved inside this ring. Now, look, boy, we're going to
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  Speaker 7: get the answer sooner or later.
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  Speaker 5: How about it?
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  Speaker 3: What were you doing with this ring in your pocket? Now,
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  Speaker 3: let me tell you something, young fella. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what's bothering you, but whatever it is, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: find it out.
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  Speaker 7: Now, get it through your head. You're in a bad spot.
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  Speaker 7: If you're not interested in helping yourself, then neither am I.
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  Speaker 7: The monkey's on your back. You're going to have to
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  Speaker 7: help scratch it off.
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  Speaker 3: Now, get with it.
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  Speaker 5: What's it all about?
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's have your driver's license. Come on, get
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  Speaker 3: it out. All right, I'll take it. Gordon John Miller,
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  Speaker 3: 2055 Malcolm Avenue, Los Angeles. Hello, information. Do you have
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  Speaker 3: a phone listing for 2055 Malcolm Avenue? Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: 3-2-1-9-2.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Put the phone down.
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  Speaker 3: You ready to tell us?
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  Speaker 5: No, I won't tell you.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Any way you want it, Gordon.
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  Speaker 5: You can't call them. You can't. I won't let you.
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  Speaker 5: You can't call them. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Take it easy.
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  Speaker 8: They can't tell you.
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  Speaker 5: They don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Give me the phone.
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  Speaker 5: You can't. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Sit down.
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  Speaker 8: I said sit down.
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  Speaker 3: If you won't answer the questions, we'll find somebody who will.
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  Speaker 3: Give me your wrist. Now, sit still.
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  Speaker 7: Now, the sooner you get it through your head you're
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  Speaker 7: not here on a traffic ticket, the better. You're going
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  Speaker 7: to stay cuffed to that chair until we're ready to
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  Speaker 7: book you. I'm sick of treating you like a baby.
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  Speaker 3: They can't tell you.
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  Speaker 2: They don't understand.
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  Speaker 6: They can't tell you.
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  Speaker 3: They can't be any worse than you. Now, sit still there.
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  Speaker 1: Shh.
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  Speaker 5: Shh.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, is this the Miller residence? 2055 Malcolm Avenue? My
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  Speaker 7: name's Friday, ma'am. Police department, Central Homicide.
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  Speaker 3: Who's this speaking, please?
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  Speaker 8: I see.
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  Speaker 3: Miss Miller, are you related to a Gordon Miller? Your brother? Uh-huh. No,
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  Speaker 3: he's not hurt. There's nothing wrong with him.
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  Speaker 9: Ma'am?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's here. We're holding him. I wonder if you'd
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  Speaker 3: be kind enough to come down here to the city hall.
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  Speaker 3: It's the city hall, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 5: It's important.
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  Speaker 3: We'd like to talk to you. No, as soon as possible. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you can get in through the Main Street entrance. Main Street, M-A-I-N.
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  Speaker 7: It's room 42, 4-2 on the main floor. Just ask
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  Speaker 7: for Friday. That's my name. All right, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Goodbye.
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  Speaker 3: It's your sister, Lillian. She's on her way down, Gordon.
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  Speaker 5: It's not going to help. She doesn't know. None of
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  Speaker 5: them know.
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  Speaker 3: Who's them? You mean your family?
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  Speaker 5: You shouldn't have called. They don't know about it. They
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  Speaker 5: can't tell you. Why did you have to call?
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  Speaker 3: You know why, Gordon. We gave you plenty of chance
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  Speaker 3: to tell us yourself. The answers have to come from somewhere.
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  Speaker 5: What answers? What do you want me to say?
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  Speaker 3: Homicide Friday.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: How's that again? No, I'm afraid you have the wrong extension.
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  Speaker 3: You want vice detail. Just a minute. I'll have your
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  Speaker 3: call transferred. Yeah, would you give this call to 2607? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I asked you What do you want me to say?
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  Speaker 4: What do you want?
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty simple, Gordon. Just tell us what happened tonight,
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  Speaker 3: will you?
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  Speaker 5: She's dead, isn't she? Elizabeth?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.
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  Speaker 5: There's nothing else to say. I killed her.
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  Speaker 3: Why did you kill her, son?
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure, really.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: I think I felt sorry for her. I killed her, though.
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  Speaker 5: I know that one.
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  Speaker 3: You murdered the woman, but you don't know why?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I keep trying to remember.
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  Speaker 1: I can't.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't seem real.
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  Speaker 3: You been drinking, Gordon?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Two or three days. We were going to have
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  Speaker 5: dinner tonight. We started drinking cocktails before. Quite a few.
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  Speaker 5: We never had dinner.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean by we?
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  Speaker 5: The two of us. Elizabeth and I. Elizabeth Hoffman.
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  Speaker 3: Where were you drinking?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm telling you the truth. I keep
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  Speaker 5: trying to remember.
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  Speaker 3: No marks on the body, Gordon. None we could see anyway.
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  Speaker 5: How'd you kill her? I killed her. That's enough, isn't it?
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  Speaker 5: I murdered her. Please don't talk anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, son. That's not even half the story. You
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  Speaker 3: admit you killed a woman. You won't tell us why.
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  Speaker 3: You won't tell us how.
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  Speaker 5: They wouldn't let her alone. They kept hounding her. They
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  Speaker 5: drove her out of her mind. Come on, son.
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  Speaker 3: Snap out of it. That's not going to help any.
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  Speaker 3: All right, come on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now, what's it all about? What'd you have to do
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  Speaker 3: with it?
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  Speaker 5: Known her for 10 years. She was my music teacher. Piano.
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  Speaker 5: Brilliant woman. Elizabeth was a real artist.
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  Speaker 3: You've been taking piano lessons from her for ten years,
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  Speaker 3: is that right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 9: Elizabeth was arranging a concert tour for me. South America,
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  Speaker 9: this fall. She said she was sure I'd be a success.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't fail.
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  Speaker 9: Concerts in eight cities, all over South America. We were
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  Speaker 9: going this fall. We were going to leave in August.
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  Speaker 3: Not have anything to do with her death?
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  Speaker 5: I guess so. No way.
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  Speaker 9: She did everything for me, and I had to kill her.
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  Speaker 9: Only one who believed in me. I can't tell you.
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  Speaker 9: Last two years, I didn't have any money to pay
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  Speaker 9: for my lessons.
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  Speaker 5: She didn't care. She even fed me, took care of
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  Speaker 5: me when I was sick once. She did everything for me.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this is pretty hard to understand, son. She
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  Speaker 3: did everything for you. Then why did you kill her?
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  Speaker 9: What makes you think that's important? She's dead, and I
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  Speaker 9: killed her. You always ask why. It's not important how
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  Speaker 9: she died.
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  Speaker 3: It is to us. Now, how'd you kill her, Gordon?
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  Speaker 3: Why'd you take her body down to the freight yards?
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  Speaker 9: You should have known Elizabeth when she was alive.
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  Speaker 5: You never met a woman like her. Just wonderful. Talent.
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  Speaker 5: She was brilliant. Understanding. Great woman.
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  Speaker 3: Warm.
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  Speaker 5: No one like her, Sergeant. Great human being.
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  Speaker 3: She drank quite a bit, didn't she, Gordon?
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  Speaker 5: Yes. She drank.
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  Speaker 9: Reason for it, though. Reason for everything. Sat away with
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  Speaker 9: a lot of brilliant people. She'd drink once in a while.
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  Speaker 3: She drank more than that, didn't she?
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  Speaker 5: She had a reason for it. Who are you to
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  Speaker 5: sit in judgment on her?
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  Speaker 9: Elizabeth was a brilliant artist, great woman, great. One of
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  Speaker 9: the finest musicians in the country, a great woman.
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  Speaker 3: She was a drunk and a bad drunk. Now, let's
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  Speaker 3: face it, son, you know that as well as I do.
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  Speaker 5: You're a liar. She wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: You're a rotten liar.
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  Speaker 3: Six drunk arrests in 14 months.
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  Speaker 7: That's what her card reads in the record bureau. Those
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  Speaker 7: are the only times we know of. Now, how many
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  Speaker 7: can you add to it?
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  Speaker 5: She drank. She thought it was the only way out
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  Speaker 5: for her. Wasn't any other way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you're talking in circles here, Gordon. Get it
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  Speaker 3: straightened out, will you?
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  Speaker 5: You want to know why Elizabeth drank? Go ask my family.
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  Speaker 5: They'll tell you. They'll tell you a lot of things
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  Speaker 5: if you want.
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  Speaker 3: To believe it. What can they tell me that you can't?
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  Speaker 5: Nothing. But they'll try and pretend they know liars. I
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: don't want any part of them. And they don't want
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: any part of me.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Don't you live with your family now, Gordon?
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen them for a year. I don't want
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: to see them.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Why not? Don't you get along with them? Your father
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: and your mother?
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: My mother's dead. Died when I was 12. Just my
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: father and my sister.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: What's the matter? Don't you get along with them?
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: I just want them to let me alone, that's all.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Just let me alone.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: How about Elizabeth Hoffman? Your family know her pretty well?
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they know her. I didn't understand her, though. I
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: really loved her. She loved me.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think I follow you, son.
• 16:32
  Speaker 9: I knew you wouldn't understand. I was in love with Elizabeth.
• 16:35
  Speaker 9: She was in love with me.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: We were going to get married.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: You're 25 years old, Gordon.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: Is that right?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Hoffman was 52. That's what our records show here.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: What about it?
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: 27 years difference. That's a little unusual, wouldn't you say?
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: Whatever. Everything that's great is unusual. That's what makes it great.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: I loved her. Time didn't make any difference. A few years,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: what's that? I loved her more than any woman in
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: the world. She meant everything.
• 17:02
  Speaker 9: I didn't care if she drank. I didn't care if
• 17:04
  Speaker 9: she was old. You don't stop being beautiful just because
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: you grow old. Elizabeth was beautiful.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Well, drinking didn't help her much.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: I don't care about that. I'll still say it. She
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: loved me and I loved her. Believe me, please, I
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: loved her.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: All right, I believe you, son. Let me ask you this.
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: You say you respected her. She was talented. You were
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: grateful to her. She was generous.
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: She made sacrifices for you, did everything for you that
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: she could.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Is that right? She loved you and you loved her.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: You were going to marry her.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. This fall, on the way to South America. Going
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: to be married. What we always wanted. Elizabeth would have
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: been so happy. So happy.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, then why did you kill her?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Joe?
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Frank.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: See you in a minute?
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Sorry to interrupt you. Something I think you ought
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: to know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: John and I checked the boarding house the Hoffman woman
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: was staying at. Checked her room. It's clean. Everything in order. Uh-huh.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Miss Miller had the room next to her. Shook his
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: place down, too.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Anything?
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: His bags were all packed. Looked like he was ready
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: to go. Something else.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: On the kitchen sink, bottle of poison.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: You are listening to Dragnet. Authentic stories of your police
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: force in action.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Tuesday, January 18th, 1155 p.m.
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: My partner Frank Smith and I.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: Continued questioning the murder suspect, 25-year-old Gordon Miller.
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: While he freely admitted to the murder of his music
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: teacher and fiancée, 52-year-old Elizabeth Hoffman, we still were unable
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: to get him to give us a good reason for
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: the murder. Whenever we put the question to him, he
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: either refused to answer or he was evasive. We got
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: the same results when we questioned him about how he
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: killed the Hoffman woman.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Where he killed her.
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: 12.20 a.m., the interrogation went on.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: But you ought to remember where you killed her, Gordon.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: You say the two of you left the rooming house,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: you stopped for some drinks, and you went for a walk.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Where'd you walk? Down Arlington Avenue. We kept walking, then
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: we turned off. We walked for a long time.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Were you anywhere near the freight yards when you killed her?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Can you remember that?
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: No, I don't know. Like a nightmare.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: There's so much of it, I guess I don't want
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: to remember. And what's the last location you can recall, Gordon?
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: I mean, before you found yourself.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: In the freight yard.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Olympic Boulevard, I think. Someplace on Olympic. Kept walking and walking.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I don't even remember why. You remember packing your suitcases
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: before you left the boarding house? Packing? Yeah, I think
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: I do. Elizabeth and I talked about going away for
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: a few days, someplace out of town. I think we're
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: going to go tomorrow.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: They checked both your rooms, Gordon, yours and Elizabeth Hoffman's.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: They found your bags packed, but there was nothing about
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: her room that indicated she was going away. Everything was
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: in order.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Can you explain that?
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: Maybe she didn't have time, hadn't gotten around to it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I guess you found the poison, too. That's right. I
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: got it two days ago. We thought about it. We
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: even wrote a letter explaining why we'd do it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: We didn't have the courage, though. Neither one of us.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Talked about it and decided to forget it. I've told
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: you everything. There isn't anything else to say.
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: Friday?
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, all right, Jeff. Send her in, please. You're
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Lillian Miller, is that right?
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: Yes, that's right.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I don't want to see her. I don't want to
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: see her. She's your sister, Gordon. She wants to see you. Please,
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: keep her out. Keep her away.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Gordon?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: My name's Friday, Miss Miller. Come on in, please. Have
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: a chair, will you?
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: Thank you. How are you, Gordon? Been such a long time.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: How have you been?
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Chair, Miss Miller? Thanks.
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: Well, kid, what is it, Gordon? What's the trouble about? Honey,
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: what is it? Won't you even look at me?
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Get out of here. Let me alone.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Get out.
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: Please, Gordon, don't. I'm here to help you, honey. They
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: called me tonight. They said you're in trouble. What is it?
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: Let me help you, please.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: You can't help. She's dead now. Will you go home?
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Elizabeth's dead. I killed her.
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: Merciful God, no.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Will you take her out of here, Sergeant? Tell her
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: to go?
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: You don't know what you're saying, honey. He's not in
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: his right mind, Sergeant. I know he isn't. Please, Gordon,
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: you have to let us help you. I called Dad
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: before I left. He's on his way here now. We'll
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: get you a lawyer. Don't worry, honey. It'll be all right.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: Everything will be all right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: She's dead. Can you bring her back?
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: You couldn't have killed her, couldn't you?
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Hounding her, torturing her. Why couldn't you let her alone?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Why couldn't you let us alone?
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: We only did it for you, Gordon. We thought it
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: was best for you.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: You fool, you fool.
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: Say anything you want, Gordon. I don't care, but let
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: me help you, please. It doesn't count what I am.
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: Just let me help you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: I'll get it. Okay, then. Henry Miller, the boy's father.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I don't want to see him in here. I don't
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: know him. He's not my father.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: All right, take it easy, Gordon.
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: Please, honey, try to understand. We only want to help.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Who's in charge here?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: My name is Friday, Mr.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Miller.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: This is my partner, Sergeant Smith.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: The handcuffs on my son.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Gordon, who did it? Who put them on you? I did, Mr.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Miller.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: The only way we could settle him down.
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: Taking quite a bit of authority in your hands, aren't you?
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: Get them off of him right now. No reason to
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: handcuff him.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Sorry, can't be done.
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: I said take them off. I have a little influence
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: in this town. I'll see to it that the police
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: commission hears about this. Now, what's my son doing here, anyway?
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: It's the Hoffman woman, Dad. Elizabeth Hoffman.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: What about her?
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: She's dead. Gordon says he killed her. Dad, we've got
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: to do something.
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: Don't tell him anything, Gordon. Don't say a thing. I'll
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: get a lawyer for you right away. I know what
• 22:01
  Speaker 10: your rights are. Don't tell him anything.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Did you know Elizabeth Hoffman, Mr. Miller? I knew her slightly.
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: Can't see what this fuss is all about anyway.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Woman wasn't any good to begin with. No good at all.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: You ought to be glad I'm handcuffed to this chair.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: I never thought of hitting you before. I'd like to
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: do it now.
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: Please, Gordon, don't say those things.
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: As far as I can remember, you've been nothing but trouble. Now,
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: either you snap out of it this time or you're
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: on your own.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I'm sick of this.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Police stations, trampy women keeping you out of jail.
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: Either you start to realize who's boss in this family
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: or there's going to be real trouble. Find yourself out
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: in the cold, you'll stay there.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Get him out of here. Get him out of my sight.
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: Please, Dad, he's not well. Try and understand.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Enough, Gordon. I'll send a lawyer for you. That's all
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: I'll do.
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: If you make up your mind I'm boss, you can
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: come home. If not, you can stay away. Figure it
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: out for yourself.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: I don't care. I hate you. I hope you never
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: forget it. I hate you.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Dad.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I'll see you at home, Lillian. It's a maid's night out.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Lock the door before you go to bed.
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: Please, Dad, we've got to help. Don't leave, Dad. It's God,
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: dear God.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Sergeant.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Will you lock me up now? I'm tired.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: All right, Gordon. Just a minute. Frank, you want to
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: stay with him? Yeah, okay. Miss Miller, would you like
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: to step outside for a minute or something? I'd like
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: to ask you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: Yes, all right. You'll let me see Gordon again?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. Come on this way.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: Now, look.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: How about this Elizabeth Hoffman, Miss Miller? Did you know
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: her at all?
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: I tried to talk to her. I even offered her
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: money if she'd let Gordon alone. It wasn't any use.
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: She'd been drinking. She wouldn't even listen. She kept saying
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: she was going to marry Gordon.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Well, what's the big attraction, do you know? I mean,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: between your brother and that woman.
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: There's only one thing Gordon ever really wanted. He wasn't
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: too interested in women, things like that. All he wanted
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: was to be a musician, a great pianist. That's all
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: he ever wanted. The sad part about it is he'll
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: never make it. I think Don D.P. knows that. When
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: he was a kid, Dad sent him to the finest teachers.
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: After six months, they all said the same thing.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: He'd never make it. Oh, he could play well enough,
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: but he certainly wasn't exceptional. He never improved. He just
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: stayed the same. When he started taking lessons from Elizabeth,
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: she convinced him he had a great talent, kept telling
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: him she'd make a great pianist out of him. The
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: last three years, she kept promising to take him on
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: a tour, Europe, South America. It never happened. I think
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: Gordon knew it never could happen.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Can you think of any reason at all why he'd
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: want to kill her?
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: There isn't any reason, none at all. Gordon didn't kill her.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: He couldn't kill anyone, I'm sure of it.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I hope you're right, Miss Miller, for your brother's sake.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Would you excuse me for a few minutes, please?
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Yes, all right.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: You wait here.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: You sit down if you want to. I'll be right back.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: All set, Joe?
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in a minute.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Gordon, you ready to go?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I'd like to ask you one more question, son. I'd
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: like to have you tell me the truth on this one.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: What did you have in common with Elizabeth Hoffman? She
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: was twice as old as you are. You gave up
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: a lot for her. She didn't have any money.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: She was an alcoholic.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: What was the big attraction?
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Why did I love Elizabeth? Is that what you mean?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: You tell me, Sergeant. Why do you love any woman? Why?
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Because you need them.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You need them.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: You can't be alone. Nobody can be alone. I needed Elizabeth.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: That's why I loved her. There's only been two women
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: in the world who understood me. One of them was Elizabeth.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: The other one was my mother. She died when I
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: was 12. Now they're both dead. Both of them. Only
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: ones who understood. My father didn't understand. He never did.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: All he knows is business, making money, more money. That's
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: why he hated Elizabeth. He was jealous.
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: She understood me. She knew what I was like, knew
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: all about me. When I was with Elizabeth, I was safe.
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: I was happy close to her. There wasn't anything.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: To be afraid of.
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: I'd go to her just like my mother. I'd put
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: my head on her shoulder and she'd put her arms
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: around me. I wasn't frightened anymore. I was safe.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Everything was all right, just like when I was a
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: little kid in the night. I'd call out for my mother.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: She was always there. She'd put her arms around me
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: and everything was safe. I wasn't afraid. I needed her.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: It was the same way I needed Elizabeth. Do you
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: understand now? Now, do you know why I loved her? Yeah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: I think I do. Only one question left. Why did
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: you kill her? I don't know. I really don't. Maybe
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I'll remember. Look, Gordon, are you sure you killed her?
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: If she died in my arms, I must have killed her. Tomorrow, maybe.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'll remember tomorrow. Is Lillian still here, my sister?
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: She's waiting outside. Did you hear my father, what he said?
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Told her to be sure and lock the door?
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Just like my father. They don't have to lock that door.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: It was locked 13 years ago.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: How do you mean?
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: It was locked the day my mother died.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: The story you have just heard was true. The names
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: were changed to protect the innocent.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: On January 19th, an autopsy was performed at the county morgue,
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: city and county of Los Angeles, state of California. In
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: a moment, the results of that examination. The results of
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: the autopsy performed on the body of Elizabeth Hoffman showed
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: definitely that she had suffered from a chronic heart condition
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: aggravated by excessive drinking. Cause of death was listed as myocarditis,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: inflammation of the heart muscle. Gordon Miller was released from
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: custody and completely exonerated of the death of Elizabeth Hoffman.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Eighteen months later, he took his own life.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: from official files. Technical advice comes from the office of
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Chief of Police W.H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department. Technical advisors,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Marty Wynn, Sergeant Vance Brasher. Heard
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: tonight were Vic Perrin, Herb Ellis, Harry Bartell, Joyce McCluskey.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Script by Jim Moser. Music by Walter Schumann. George Fenneman speaking.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Attend the Republican Convention on NBC.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Well, this is such an interesting episode. and
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: really does show the strength of Dragnet in its portrayal
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of human drama. And it's a very dark story in
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: a way, even though it doesn't involve an actual crime.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: As Gordon Miller is just this tragic figure whose real
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: emotional development really seemed to have stopped when... his mother died.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: And there's this way where most people in this episode
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: don't even really treat him like an adult. The way
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: his father spoke to him in terms of how he
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: was bossing him around. Maybe you can think that had
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to do with his dad being domineering. Then you have
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: his sister. you know, calling him a poor kid and, honey,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just not a way that I've heard
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: adult women talk to their 25-year-old brother. And even Friday,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: you know, I think the way that he was talking
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: to him at the beginning seemed more reminiscent sometimes of
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the way Joe Friday might work with a young teenager.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: And Friday says, I'm sick of treating you like a baby. Now,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: any of these might just be like a one-off thing.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: But I think when you have this many people doing
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: this sort of thing, it says something about the character.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: And there was so much that he had invested in
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: this relationship with this older woman. that she was, in effect,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: his whole world. And in a way, he was also
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: losing his own mother again. And it shows from a
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: police perspective that oftentimes you intersect with these painful situations
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: and there's not really a whole lot you can do.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Your part in a case like this is to find
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: out whether there was a murder or some sort of
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: actionable criminal offense. But that doesn't end up saying a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot in terms of the ongoing underlying problem. Well,
• 30:31
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• 31:02
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• 31:06
  Speaker 2: for yours truly, Johnny Dollar, where.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Right on the ball. Kind of had a hunch you
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: might be dragged in on this. How are you, Johnny? Well,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: pretty good, Louie. Or rather, I'm not so sure. You
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: have any real leads on this case, Johnny? Yeah. Let
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: me hand you a thought for the day. Okay, sure.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Don't be surprised when you find that Lena Loomis isn't
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: at all broken up over this loss of her husband,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: because she isn't. If you ask me, she's downright tickled
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to death about it. Is that your snide way of
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: telling me that she's interested in somebody else? Somebody closer
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: to her own age? Johnny, if I could find out
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  Speaker 1: who that somebody else is. But who knows? Maybe there
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: isn't any. Or maybe there's a dozen of them. I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: don't know. This gal is the social type. One big
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: party after another, night after night, month after month, ever
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: since they got married. Lewis? Couldn't stay far enough away
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  Speaker 1: from it all. Spent most of his time off on
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: hunting or fishing trips or out on his yacht. Funny
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that he ever married her in the first place. Well,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: when a gorgeous young charmer starts going at a poor,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: lonely widower, nearly 60, well, what do you expect? Apparently
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: all she cared about was getting her hooks on his money.
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  Speaker 1: What else? When did he go? Ten days ago. Got up,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: had breakfast, announced he was going to spend the day
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  Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Walked out the front door, and that was
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the last anybody ever saw. And what about enemies, Lou?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Not a one that anybody knows of. I mean, anything,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: any reason to think he might have been hauled up
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and murdered? The only reason to think he wasn't is
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the fact he took some luggage, some clothing with him.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Well, that doesn't prove anything.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: You've questioned his wife, of course.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: When you get through talking to her, you'll know just
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: as much or as little as I do. Well, how
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: about his favorite hunting and fishing spots? Check them all.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Favorite and otherwise, nothing. You say that he owns a yacht? Owned.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: A sailboat, a big one. Kept it down in the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: little town of Tuckahoe on the Tuckahoe River.
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 1: He just happened to have sold that yacht two days
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  Speaker 1: before he disappeared.
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  Speaker 5: Ah.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny... We haven't a single solitary thing to go on.
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  Speaker 1: You sure about that, Lou? What do you mean? Not
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: even his.
• 33:17
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