Latest / Podcast Championship Wrestling / Episode 48 Elimination Chamber 2024 Predictions
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- 0:00Ah whist it is? Oh you want to talk to her? I would
- 0:11give you a show like you have never recovered being before the wife because I
- 0:18can't. What do you guys want to talk about? God and the colored
- 0:33red in a world for the black and white either of world? Yeah?
- 0:42Let me if you have seen the child ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
- 1:26children of all ages. Welcome back to another episode her PCW podcast,
- 1:32Championship Wrestling. I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
- 1:36and man, we are like forty five days away, I believe,
- 1:40from WrestleMania, and uh, you know we gotta make that Pitt stop.
- 1:45Right before WrestleMania, there's the elimination chamber and that's what we're gonna talk about
- 1:49today. We're gonna talk about our predictions going into this pay per view and
- 1:53you know what we're going down under all right? Uh, it's gonna be
- 1:59an all Australia. So uh, let me bring up that commentary team here
- 2:04because I can't do this alone. Here we go, Hey, Dre,
- 2:39welcome back, Yo, Yo, what did do pc W crew? Dude?
- 2:46If if you were in the elimination chamber, what do you think you
- 2:50want to start off the match or do you think he'd be one of the
- 2:53people locked in one of the pods. Oh no, I'd want to be
- 2:57in one of the pods. I don't want to start off the match because
- 2:59they and you gotta be there the entire time. That's more people you have
- 3:02to eliminate. Send in one of the pods. Maybe you get lucky,
- 3:07somebody gets eliminated before you have to come out there. Your people you gotta
- 3:10beat up with or fight, and then you get to have your own moment.
- 3:15You get to make an entrance. Everybody gets to count down towards you.
- 3:20You get to come in there, ball full of energy, fighting a
- 3:23whole bunch of other tired people, and you get to show out kind of
- 3:25like what my test forward did last year when he had his moment in the
- 3:29elimination chamber. Yeah, I mean come out to in straight shot out of
- 3:32a cannon. I always think of like moments where the guys that you have
- 3:38a lot of beef with they just stand in front of your pod and wait
- 3:42for you to come out to That's that's another one that sucks. It's like
- 3:45they're waiting for you. They know you're gonna come out at some point,
- 3:49but hey, where's a where's this guy at? Let me get him in
- 3:53here. Yes, you don't even know me, Yeah, you don't even
- 4:04know how you know me? Yeah you know sixty call sixty call Chisty's bull
- 4:15bitch. We saw that from that shit. You won't have like friends,
- 4:17don't got a little sun. But not like that time trouble one except black
- 4:23them Fable Doyle. Oh it's me, It's me, It's the d y
- 4:28l e. And uh, let's put another shrimp on the bobby God.
- 4:32That's probably so patronizing. I apologize Australians. That's part. That's like whenever
- 4:39anybody beats me and they go, oh, where do you pack the card?
- 4:42Do you pack it in half? It yard? And I say no,
- 4:45you can't. They'll tell you the med for the Revere. You don't
- 4:47want to go to Revere. See, you know what it's like if you
- 4:55pass on, you pass it on to others. Well, yeah, sh
- 4:58it rolls downhill, right down hill, you know what I mean? So
- 5:01I heard it was like a twenty hour flight to Australia for these guys.
- 5:10That's crazy. I couldn't take twenty hours on a flight. Yeah, I've
- 5:15always wanted to go there, but it's it takes so fucking long to get
- 5:17there. It's like, if you're gonna go, you might as well say
- 5:21for a month, you know, like and there's like any number of millions
- 5:26of things that will kill you in Australia, right waiting for Koalas have chlamydia
- 5:33apparently, Yeah, I want no parts of Australia. Oh dude, Koalasa
- 5:41that's fucking scary. It was like it was like a beautiful flight. Drew.
- 5:46Drew McIntyre's doing some great uh internet troll work uet. He put a
- 5:53tweet out about how I guess chlamydia is rampant in Koala bears and then there's
- 6:00picture of l a night holding. Yeah he's just owning it right now.
- 6:08Yeah you know what being a video about, Like don't forget to work out,
- 6:12Jeff try simps dude, yeah himself. I like this though. I
- 6:17like the jabs he's taking at seampunk like this could be like a long thing
- 6:23like so like this is the rivalry is still boiling, you know, until
- 6:28he comes back. So like when he does come back, he has a
- 6:30fresh you know, feud right off the bat. I think that'd be I
- 6:36think that'd be great. So we got to keep Drew McIntyre and seeing Punk
- 6:41feud hot and on the burner. Oh yeah, he's gonna troll the crap
- 6:46out of the whole time he's out, especially considering see him Punk doesn't appear
- 6:49to be going anywhere anytime soon. I imagine he'll be part of the pol
- 6:54pre show crew and all that other stuff, given his commentary, because they
- 6:59don't want people to forget about him while he's out. Fun fact, guys,
- 7:03we have had some downloads in Australia and I'm trying to like think was
- 7:09it like a specific episode, like did they did they? Did we review
- 7:13something that they were in Australia before? Because sometimes I get curious, like
- 7:17I wonder where they've been downloading from, and there's a few that were in
- 7:21Australia. I'm like, well, we just lost those things to doors.
- 7:28Before I made fun I met I met people from New Zealand. They're the
- 7:33worst. Not Australians. Australians are wonderful people from New Zealand. Like I
- 7:38said, I would love to go there, but the flight twenty hours,
- 7:42you got you gotta I always tell Andrew like if we ever have to go
- 7:45anywhere, like on a flight, because I'm definitely scared of flying. I
- 7:47was like, listen, you're gonna have to trank me like an animal,
- 7:51and you know, I don't know, putting in some peanut butter like a
- 7:54dog like whatever it is, like a pill like, but I gotta be
- 7:57out, like I just don't want any part of the flying. Nope,
- 8:03nope, not for me. Yeah, the flight I'm not worried about.
- 8:07I mean, most of the time you would just sleep or watch a movie
- 8:11or do something to kill time. Yeah, I mean you can kill time
- 8:15on a flight like that. It's getting there. And like Doyle alluded to
- 8:18earlier, it's way too much shit in Australia that wants to kill you.
- 8:22It can do it really easily. I don't want no parts of none of
- 8:26that shit. Yeah. I heard like you shouldn't go swimming in the water
- 8:30Instandney, like they talk about I saw TikTok to figure about how like just
- 8:35dirty the water is, and I was like it, don't be ashamed.
- 8:37We had New Jersey, we had the same thing. We had the same
- 8:41problem. There's areas around here that's like the swim there no dirty water.
- 8:50I ain't worried about. Yeah, they got beaches. I'm pretty sure if
- 8:54they hop in the water and they live in they fine. It's the critics
- 8:56and the creatures. I don't need to be waking up in in the morning
- 9:00and some day one thirteen spiders staring me in the face like, hey,
- 9:05you know you don't mind it. I was maying for you to say that
- 9:09the Dingo eight my baby. Yeah shit. So yeah, like this is
- 9:15gonna be in Australia. On the poster, it's just just Riha, which
- 9:20I like. I mean, that's the one that I saw, That's the
- 9:24one that's on the wiki. That's the one I'll be using for the thumbnail
- 9:26for the episode. Yeah, I like, I try to pull those for
- 9:33the thumbnail for the pre and then the post. I kinda make up.
- 9:37I kinda make one up, whether it has to pertain to like what happened
- 9:41during the pay per view, because like or like a famous meme that came
- 9:46from the pay per view. It's always a good thumbnail at least. Yeah,
- 9:50yeah, right, there's always one. Because right now, when you
- 9:52just put in for the elimination chamber for twenty twenty four, there's like I
- 9:56don't know, like three or four different types of photos, so it's really
- 10:00hard to pick from. But afterwards there's a few photos of the stadium floating
- 10:05around. Yeah, I thought like, oh, maybe I'll just just like
- 10:07stadiums and like, now people want to understand that, like that's just a
- 10:11building. I don't know what it looks like. I like, I like
- 10:15this idea. Yeah. Yeah, Uh, it's the first time they've been
- 10:20in Australia since October of twenty eighteen. Yeah, haven't. I mean,
- 10:24I guess they apparently don't want to take that long ass flight too often either.
- 10:30No, no, not at all. I saw, Uh they released
- 10:35that WWE Experience. Is that Saudi that they released that? Where is that?
- 10:41Did you guys? I believe Yeah, there's a there's some kind of
- 10:43building or museum or something in Saudi Arabia that will probably never go to I've
- 10:50been here for a little bit because I know we should we should be talking
- 10:52about the Elimination Chamber. But when I saw this ww experience Get post get
- 10:58posted, right, I saw what they have going on inside, and I
- 11:03just commented, you know, like why can you not just do the same
- 11:07thing for us? Here in the States, but the Hall of Fame,
- 11:11Like, why can we not get a physical Hall of Fame building? Where
- 11:16do you guys have We're getting something they're giving us w w econ or whatever
- 11:20the fuck they're calling that ship this year. Oh they're calling it the World,
- 11:24which I think is hysterical because it wasn't that their Times Square restaurant that
- 11:30failed spectacularly. Really, I'm pretty sure called the World. It might have
- 11:35been. I forgot they had that that little Time Square spot back in the
- 11:41old Sunday Night Heat. Yeah, say Sunday Night He used to and from
- 11:43there pretty often back on Sunday Night Heat. It was actually worth a ship.
- 11:48It's just like and when I used to watch the episodes where they would
- 11:52go through like certain wrestlers would go through like the ww warehouse, they were
- 11:54like, Oh, look at this. This is from like the Mankind Rock
- 11:58mess just match. This is from an Undertaker match. And I'm just like,
- 12:03why is this stuff not on display? Why is it all at a
- 12:07warehouse? Yeah, I think you can expect to see some things like that
- 12:11that I do too. I expect to see that because it's like money just
- 12:16sitting there wasting a way like yeah, but like the big question is where
- 12:20do you put it? Yeah, that's that's the thing is probably like overhead,
- 12:22because then you have to either buy a building and convert it into a
- 12:28WW museum or you build something and convert it and then try to make it
- 12:33a must see place, Like where would you put it? Do you try
- 12:39to make it its own thing, like how Canton has the NFL and Cooperstown
- 12:45has Major League Baseball and shit like that. Do you do it like that?
- 12:48Or do you try to just fit in in the midst of all the
- 12:50other tourist attractions in some other city, Like do you put it in Orlando
- 12:54and try to you know, be there, or do you put it up
- 12:58in connect Who the fuck is going to Connecticut just to see the WWE Hall
- 13:01of Fame? Nobody? You put it out West or like I mean,
- 13:05there's a lot involved into it and then have enough stuff there, which okay,
- 13:09yeah, you hit the nostalgia kick, but it's gonna take more than
- 13:13just that, I think, to make it financially worth it and make it
- 13:20something that could actually be profitable and sustainable. Yeah, I mean, I'm
- 13:24sure they've I'm sure they've discussed it. You know, yeah, I can't
- 13:31imagine that they've never come up. Yeah, I mean it makes sense because
- 13:33like with all that stuff there was in the warehouse, it's just like an
- 13:37old person's hoarding shit, right, and that's this Evince is hoarding shit.
- 13:39It's like Grandpa, like, please, we've got to throw out all this
- 13:43stuff or sell it all it's worth money, Well, it's keep it here
- 13:48inheritance. No, I think a lot of stuff didn't get saved or you
- 13:52know, because who thought that, you know, macho man's glasses would be
- 13:58when anyone would give a shit in twenty twenty four. But I'm sure like
- 14:03there's family and friends that would donate stuff or I mean, like, dude,
- 14:09like, wouldn't it be cool being in the museum It's like, hey,
- 14:11get your picture tickets next to like the old SmackDown fist. You know.
- 14:16Oh yeah, for sure. I've heard Folly talk about how like he
- 14:20just doesn't have a lot of stuff saved because he never thought like, oh,
- 14:24somebody would want my shirt that I was wearing when you know, when
- 14:28they put me in a dumpster, threw me off the stage or what you
- 14:31know, it never occurred to him that anyone would I think the original,
- 14:35but you know, like I went, things have changed now, like like
- 14:41you see the same thing from like you know, Mickey Mantle or whatever.
- 14:43There's not much stuff left because he, you know, he wasn't saving.
- 14:46Nowadays, every pair of socks, every every glove, every shoe, every
- 14:50everything get saved and donated to charity and option off and whatever. And I
- 14:56think they just didn't do that until fairly recently. Yeah, then you got
- 15:00to think about the factor of it's WWE, so there's going to be an
- 15:03inherent bias towards it. So it's only going to want to show the good
- 15:09stuff. And pro wrestling is more than just WWE. And now I think
- 15:13if there was like some sort of collective pro wrestling Hall of Fame that acknowledged
- 15:18all of it, that could go all the way back to the territories and
- 15:22WWE, and also you know other promotions like NWA stuff, even AW stuff
- 15:31that maybe some point be worth the dam, then that would be something good.
- 15:35Like how the Basketball Hall of Fame isn't just NBA, it's you know,
- 15:39basketball as a whole, whether it's NBA or college poops or anything,
- 15:46is all incorporated into that. So yeah, but then you got to get
- 15:50ww to play nice or that and then exactly and that's what's never gonna happen.
- 15:54It's stird because you know, just recently, just last month, we
- 15:58saw a TNA talent on w w A TV. You know, we saw
- 16:02I think Jericho, well he was affiliated with AW did Steve Austin's podcast,
- 16:07which is affiliated with w WE, but uh, I guess, I guess
- 16:11Kevin Nash it came out this week, had to ask Hunnor for permission because
- 16:15he has a Legends contract to go to Sting's last match, and they said
- 16:18no. He said no. So it's like it's like you can get favorites
- 16:22from other people, but you can't do them for that's kind of fucked up.
- 16:25I think it is super fucked up. But if anything, and it's
- 16:30not even like Stings a guy who's like, don't w W all that hard,
- 16:33Like he actually worked with y'all for a while, well a couple of
- 16:37years. Y'all did him dirty, but he still worked with y'all. Fucked
- 16:41up, Yes, I mean, of somebody of his caliber, you think
- 16:45they could give a pass too. Yeah, I mean when you're talking about
- 16:48like Ernest the Cab Kevin Nash that is. I don't think he was even
- 16:52asking to be part of another company broadcast. He just wanted to be there.
- 16:56Yeah, they were like, no, you can't do that. So
- 16:59me backstage, sit in the crowd watch it. Remember remember the uh this
- 17:04was years ago. You remember the Highlanders. Uh. One of them was
- 17:10went to I think it was maybe dating somebody in in t NA, like
- 17:14the original og back in the day, and they showed him the crowd and
- 17:19I think he got fired. He got fired right away. He asked that
- 17:25sucks, right, But I said, that fucking sucks. Like you go
- 17:29to watch something basically that you're into, that you do for a living,
- 17:33and you're not doing You're just there as a fan enjoying what you do for
- 17:37a living, and it's like, no, we can't have you here.
- 17:41You're fired. And you know, it's probably just because it's fucking a w
- 17:47Like if this was some s things last match on an independent scene, they
- 17:51probably have no problem with it, because look at all the people who showed
- 17:53up for Rick Flairs's last match, which was just at an indie show.
- 17:57Nobody had any issue with that. But because this is aw and it's gonna
- 18:03be on a PL on pl A pay per view, they don't. As
- 18:08much as I understand why WWE said no, I still hate the fact that
- 18:12they said no. They don't want AW trying to get anything any kind of
- 18:18boost whatsoever off of talent that they have under contract, because you know,
- 18:22damage for certain all the people that will show up. AW is absolutely going
- 18:26to try to hide who's all in the crowd. Look at all these people
- 18:30who came out to see stings last match and somebody like Kevin Nash being in
- 18:34the crowd. They would absolutely put him on camera. But it shouldn't fucking
- 18:38matter, and yet to WWE, it does, and that's unfortunate. I
- 18:47agree. So I wanted to rattle off. I had some notes here.
- 18:52I know we're kind of trailing off from the chamber, but we'll get their
- 18:56trust. Mean, there's only four matches, so like just in this year
- 19:03alone since January, this is less than sixty days, right, I'm just
- 19:08gonna run off a couple of things that have happened, just some highlights.
- 19:14We get the Vince McMahon allegations. Vince McMahon resigns from WWE and TKO.
- 19:22Vince becomes federally investigated, brock Lesner is removed from everything in WWE. Seth
- 19:29Rollins suffers multiple injuries. Jade Cargole makes her WWE debut, Naomi returns from
- 19:36Impact Wrestling to WWE. Jordan Grace appears in the Rumble from Impact Wrestling.
- 19:42Bailey wins the Rumble, Damage Control breaks out, Cody Rhodes wins his second
- 19:48straight Rumble. Seem Punk makes his WWE in ring return, and then he's
- 19:55injured and misses of the six months. The Rock is named the TKO named
- 20:00to TKO's board of directors. Then The Rock, also trying to challenges Roman,
- 20:04reigns at WrestleMania, Cody Rose trends worldwide for a week straight, and
- 20:11Mercedes Monroe to aw was announced booked an entire venue for basically, Uh,
- 20:19that's just all was like in less than sixty days, Like we're not even
- 20:25through February. Let's not leave out Rock slapping the dog shout of Cody Rose
- 20:29in Vegas. Yeah, we had our first I would say, like real
- 20:33press conference, like real one worth turning into like I don't know, it
- 20:41was like a non wrestling wrestling yeah, And I'm like they did that perfectly
- 20:47right, they set it up the week of the Super Bowl. Yeah,
- 20:48there's all kinds of cameras and eyeballs. Yeah. Yeah, they actually did
- 20:56do a pretty good job with that. Yeah, somebody's playing somebody was out
- 20:59there playing chess. Now, would you guys like to see something like this
- 21:00for WrestleMania, like a press conference again, like fright before Mania or going
- 21:06forward? Like, do we want to see press conferences? Not? I'm
- 21:10not saying that I could do without it, but I think we're in for
- 21:12more of them as as the merger begins to merge even further. And you
- 21:18know, we've already seen and especially since Kevin Dunn is left, I think
- 21:22we've seen quite a lot of changes from a production standpoint anyway. The lighting
- 21:29is totally different. Yeah, I think it's much better. It looks much
- 21:33better. You know, you're starting to get these I don't want to they're
- 21:40not video packages, but right before commercial break they'll have this like little segue
- 21:45type of thing, you know what I'm talking about, where they and little
- 21:48vignettes and stuff that they do. Now, yeah, those are kind of
- 21:51cool, right, But I think I think press conferences is one of those
- 21:56things that's going to be more and more prevalent. I'm not a huge fan,
- 21:59but sometimes they're kind of interesting that that that particular event was pretty interesting.
- 22:04Uh, I mean, you know why they did it. But I
- 22:11think we're gonna be seeing more of that. I mean, and these these
- 22:12ridiculous post paper view press conferences where like some of the people are in character
- 22:18and some of them aren't, and some of them are sort of in character
- 22:22and Hunter sort of answers the question but not really, And yeah, for
- 22:27a lot more of that. TRIPLEL it's like so many I don't even know,
- 22:36like, what do we call him now, Triple H. I guess
- 22:41it's like when he's on press conferences and it's serious stuff, it's I think
- 22:45it's pretty much Paul lovec Now given that that's they're not they're not even calling
- 22:52him Triple ah when they've called him to the ring anymore. They're literally saying
- 22:55Paul like yeah. So but obviously fans are always gonna call them Triple a's,
- 23:03just like we still call Dwayne Johnson the Rock. So I mean,
- 23:07that's that's not gonna change. I mean, in regards to the press conferences,
- 23:11clearly the post pl press conferences aren't going anywhere, and they're mostly forgettable.
- 23:17They're pretty much something that if you think something worth it them is gonna
- 23:21happen, then they're worth tuning in to. Otherwise, you can pretty much
- 23:25catch the cliff notes on YouTube or something the next day in somebody's review video.
- 23:29I mean, the only one that's really I felt has been a must
- 23:32watch as of late was the last one after the Rumble, and that was
- 23:37had nothing to do with the rumble itself. It was because of the event's
- 23:40allegations that came out. Well, I might just wanted to see how Triple
- 23:44Ah was gonna respond to that. Other than that, I mean, yeah,
- 23:47the most the post pl E press conferences are forgettable. Well, some
- 23:52things could stick around every now and I think yet came from one of them,
- 23:56right or yeah, I'm saying I'm not saying that something won't come from
- 24:02that could be worth the dam because yeah, we all remember Cody and j
- 24:04being drunk as fuck at the Damn press conference after winning the tag titles.
- 24:10So yeah, some interesting or some viral moments can come out of it.
- 24:12But is it one of those things where, Okay, the PLI is over,
- 24:17I have to tune into the press conference to see what's gonna happen.
- 24:19No, those are mostly forgettable, like I said, except for or things
- 24:25you can mostly miss out on and fit and not feel like you missed anything,
- 24:29except for the Rumble one, which again everybody felt like they had to
- 24:33tune into that one because of the event's allegations that came out. Like if
- 24:37those things did ratings, like if they tracked with the viewership or whatever it
- 24:41was on those I'm pretty sure that post Rumble one is substantially higher than any
- 24:45other PL post press conference. I think that is an excellent hypothesis right now.
- 24:52As far as the pre PL press conferences, I agree with Doyle that
- 24:56yeah, we're probably gonna see them more in in the future. I just
- 25:00hope that they use it sparingly and only use it when they have a reason
- 25:03to. Because just doing a pre palely press conference just for there, yeah,
- 25:11like doing them for ships to giggles, or just try to force storyline
- 25:15progression into these things just for the sake of it. Eventually it'll lose its
- 25:19effect and people will tune out. Hey, if I want to see in
- 25:23Italia have a press conference against somebody, I'm going to see it. Well,
- 25:29she has to be on a pay per view before she can be in
- 25:30the press conference for the pay per view, and we don't see her too
- 25:33often on Saturday. Right, there's a reason she answered the rubble at number
- 25:38one. Yeah, right, yeah, all right, you guys, uh,
- 25:44you guys want to dig into this and then then we'll shoot the ship.
- 25:49Yeah, well yeah, a couple of chamber. Yeah. This is
- 25:55the third, uh third elimination chamber in a road to be outside of the
- 26:00good old U s of Ay. In twenty twenty two it was in Saudi
- 26:03and of course last year it was in Moreal and it's the first to be
- 26:07outdoors, which is kind of interesting. Also the fourth elimination chamber of pay
- 26:14per view ever. The first one was February first of twenty ten. Interestingly,
- 26:18in twenty fifteen, Elimination Chamber was the last pay per view like strictly
- 26:23pay per view before things went to the for the WWE network for nine ninety
- 26:29nine a month, but it was first introduced in November twenty little I'm sorry
- 26:33twenty two. It was in fact created by Triple H, although it was
- 26:37introduced in KFE by Eric Bischoff to for Survivor series of that year. The
- 26:42original chamber was manufactured in Colorado Springs and took about six to eight weeks and
- 26:48cost twenty five thousand dollars. It was sixteen feet high and thirty six feet
- 26:53in diameter. Remember it used to be the first version of the chamber was
- 26:57round, as were the chambers themselves. Weighed thirty three thousand pounds, twenty
- 27:06two of which was steel, twenty two thousand of which was steel, and
- 27:08two miles of chains weighing twelve pounds themselves. It required fifty foot I guess
- 27:17it still probably does. The new one required a fifty foot flatbed truck and
- 27:21it took eight hours to construct once it was in the arena, and when
- 27:25not in use, it lives on a dock in Newark, New Jersey.
- 27:27Oddly enough, next time I passed through Newark, I'll have to look for
- 27:32it. But part of the problem with that original structure was that it didn't
- 27:37fit in every arena like a steel cage does, so it kind of limited
- 27:41what they could do with it where they could do it, and it actually
- 27:45led to the pay per view disappearing for a couple of years in the mid
- 27:49mid last decade, but in twenty seventeen, they redesigned it. Wayne,
- 27:56you apparently had a hand in that. Atomic Designs and La tits one of
- 28:02my favorite Pennsylvania place names. And that's the same chamber we know today.
- 28:07It's now square, as are the pods. Additionally, they've replaced a lot
- 28:12of the steel on the outside of some padding so that wrestlers stop fucking them
- 28:17up so badly. But it is much taller. It's oddly about ten feet
- 28:22tall or twenty six feet tall, and it's largest portion, but it's about
- 28:29thirteen thousand pounds lighter, and it fits in almost every arena. And getting
- 28:34back to the discussion about how long it takes to get to Australia, how
- 28:38in the fuck are they getting this elimination chamber over there? I wondered if
- 28:44are they just building a new one there? Like I got to think of
- 28:48it, like they charge you. They charge you if you go over fifty
- 28:51pounds in your luggage on a commercial flight. How the hell are they going
- 28:55to get twenty thousand pounds worth of eliminations over to Australia. I can only
- 29:02think of two things. I mean, given how long far out they booked
- 29:06this one, it either was shipped over on a barge or some sort of
- 29:12they contracted out some sort of I don't know, military military bomber jet or
- 29:22something that could carry that kind of weight. You would think, right,
- 29:26yeah, I don't know if the military itself does that, or if there's
- 29:29some private company that maybe has like old retired military planes that they can use
- 29:34for that kind of stuff. Who knows. I would think probably more like
- 29:37a barge. Yeah, we wonder how long that takes? How long does
- 29:42it take the sale the elimination Chamber in Australia, That's just something I was
- 29:48thinking of. The pay per view is of course called no Escape in Germany
- 29:53because the word chamber has some certain connotations. Let's just say in Germany there
- 30:00have been thirty two Elimination Chamber matches. We'll get the thirty third and thirty
- 30:03fourth on Saturday. Not surprisingly, Number five and number six is where you
- 30:08want to be. We've had eight winners from those slots. Both of those
- 30:14slots. The one year that there was a seventh entrant, that entrant did
- 30:18not win. Triple H has the most wins with four. His secret well,
- 30:23besides inventing the match, three of his four wins came from the five
- 30:26spot. His other win came from number three. Now you think with all
- 30:30those wins he'd have the most total eliminations, but he does not. Seven
- 30:36eliminations is good for number two on the list, behind only Y two J
- 30:40six Chris Jericho. He has ten eliminations, which makes sense. He's tied
- 30:45with Randy Orton for the record for the most appearances in a chamber with eight.
- 30:48Randy will of course break that record on Saturday with his ninth, but
- 30:55both of them only won one time. As far as most eliminations in a
- 30:59single match, we have two people have done it five times, five eliminations
- 31:03in a single match, Bron Stroman and SHANEA. Basler. However, Stroman
- 31:07did it the year there were seven people in there and he only eliminated five.
- 31:11He did not eliminate the six. So Shayna Basler is actually the only
- 31:14person that's ever had a clean sweep of a chamber match. Was kind of
- 31:18interesting. It didn't seem to do her career a hell of a lot of
- 31:22red. And as for the rest of the ladies, Live Morgan has the
- 31:26most appearances. She's been in every women's elimination chamber match all four of them,
- 31:33but but that'll obviously increase the five on Saturday. Oddly enough, no
- 31:37one, I'm sorry, what that reliable? Yeah? Oddly enough, no
- 31:41one has been in three matches, and everyone that's been in two is either
- 31:45not with the company anymore, Sasha Banks, Mandy Rose is currently an active,
- 31:49Alexa Bliss, Carmela and Sonya Deville, or just not in the match,
- 31:53Oscar Bailey, Natty Nikki Cross, Sarah Logan. So even if Live
- 31:57isn't in the match Elimination Chamber or the next one or the next one,
- 32:01she's still going to have the record for the most appearances for quite a while.
- 32:07And we know both matches this year are for championship opportunities at Mania,
- 32:10but that wasn't always the case. The first five matches were for titles,
- 32:15and a full two third of all Elimination Chamber matches have been for titles,
- 32:20But of the eleven matches for title shots, including the two on Saturday,
- 32:22six have been since twenty twenty two, So I think we're getting away from
- 32:27defending titles, although it happened last year with the US title, I think
- 32:31we're mostly going to use this going forward. For number one contender ships rather
- 32:37than titles. One final stat for you, and maybe this doesn't bode well
- 32:43for whoever we end up picking to win these matches. I have a feeling
- 32:47we're going to have all the same pecks, but maybe not. Out of
- 32:51the nine title shots that have been earned an elimination chamber, only two have
- 32:55gone on to win the title, only two women's eliminated. Only two elimination
- 33:04chamber winners have gone on to win the title. Correct for for matches that
- 33:07were for a title shot that weren't for tight well, damn shl woden last
- 33:14year. You remember what title was up for grabs last year? Last year?
- 33:21Yeah, US title and the men's match, ye, and the women's
- 33:24match was for a title shot, and uh not. Carmelo Hayes Montese Ford
- 33:30had a fucking great showing and we were all set to be, oh,
- 33:32this is the start of his push finally and yeah later and wait, and
- 33:38he actually had a believable concussion in that match, because I damnsel thought he
- 33:43actually got his ship that we all been on it until fucking Logan Paul came
- 33:47in and it was like, oh okay, yeah, let's uh let's get
- 33:54into this here. The first match they have on the card is a tag
- 33:59team match for the Undisputed Tag Team Championship. Uh. The Judgment Day Finn
- 34:06Balaer, Damian Priest h versus the new Catch Republic Pete Dunn and Tyler Bate.
- 34:15The newly named Pete Dune and Tyler Bate. Uh horrible name public.
- 34:22Uh that doesn't that doesn't roll off the tongue as at all. No at
- 34:29all, dude, Like, I don't want a new Catch Republic shirt.
- 34:32M hm, you know what I mean? Uh? And I I don't
- 34:37know. I I don't like the whole idea of Pete Dunn went from like
- 34:42one one group and then just left the brawling brutes And now he's with Tyler
- 34:47Bate and this is what he does now, tag teaming up with the tidy
- 34:54white boy God damn. Uh Yeah, I mean I I don't see these
- 35:02guys. I see these guys putting on a good show, but I do
- 35:07not see them leaving. Listen, this this card alone is very predictable,
- 35:13so it's it's gonna be hard to be like, you know, they might
- 35:17have a chance. No, there's no way they're walking away with t ain't
- 35:24no maybes in the show at all. I think we can agree across the
- 35:29board for this one, am I correct? Guys, I disagree, disagreself
- 35:37all right, Well all I'm wondering if Triple H realizes that Pete Dunn and
- 35:43Tyler Bade are English not Australian. I don't even know if he knows.
- 35:50But I mean, the Judgment Day have just had such a fucking lacklust title
- 35:52reign, you know. I mean, outside of that fun match they had
- 35:57with Sammy and Ko where they put the hockey jerseys on, they haven't done
- 36:01anything really. But meanwhile, you've got a kind of a handful of like
- 36:07a burgeoning little tag division going on underneath them. So yeah, I'm gonna
- 36:12pick the upset just because I'd like to see an actual tag team buying for
- 36:16the tag belts instead of a two thrown together upper mid card lowermain event guys.
- 36:22And yeah, I don't see any other real upset on this card,
- 36:25so I might as well pick one. As you may have picked up.
- 36:32I'm not super convinced that they're actually going to do it. It's more of
- 36:37me picking them for the sake of picking an upset. I mean, drop
- 36:40five dollars on Vegas. You can suck around have hit it big, because
- 36:44damn show some long ass. I'm pretty sure I got long ass odds.
- 36:46Yeah, I mean I don't see another real possibility for a swerve, if
- 36:52you want to call it that. So yeah, if there was going to
- 36:55be one on the show, this would be it. But I don't think
- 37:00it is just because those guys are too new and they don't have anywhere near
- 37:06the momentum as some other people who had faced Judgment Day in the past,
- 37:12like notably the Creed Brothers who had a hell of a winning streak and then
- 37:16lost and have seemingly damn near disappeared into oblivion but are still kind of around.
- 37:24And Yeah, as nice as it would be to see Done and Tyler
- 37:30Bait upset and win the tag titles so that way we could get some actual
- 37:35tag team competition going, that just doesn't seem to be the case. They
- 37:43ww just seems really set in having their titles on big names right now instead
- 37:50of having any actual competition at this point in time. Would love to see
- 37:55that change, but they seem to be perfectly content just having all the competition
- 38:00be in the undercard of people trying to challenge for the championships, but not
- 38:07any competition in terms of actually winning championships. Yeah, I mean like there's
- 38:14this so many tag teams, but there's no team right now that presents a
- 38:19good storyline going forward. And I'm curious because you know, forty five days
- 38:24we got Wrestleminia, Like what are you guys doing with this gold? Like
- 38:27are we splitting it? Are we unifying it? Finally? Like what are
- 38:30we doing? Like it'll be a year, It'll literally be a year that
- 38:34you guys fucked around with these titles like what are we? What are we
- 38:37doing? Like are we It'll be more than a year. When how long
- 38:40ago did No? No, last year Kevin Owens and uh and Sammy want
- 38:49them at Mania, but they beautified for longer than that. No, No,
- 38:52I be with Yeah, you're right, you're right, but I met
- 38:57with judgment j just holding them in general, but oh just what they want
- 39:00them? Yeah, last year at uh fast Lane, wasn't they Oh no,
- 39:07you're right, you're right, you're right. That was fast Laning when
- 39:09they when they beat Kevin Olds the Samy zame for him but in the in
- 39:14the street fight, but like still like and then they lost them once the
- 39:19kids Cody and j for like two weeks earlier, we all forgot about that
- 39:30holy ship. Oh my, But still like, why can't we did divide
- 39:36these belts, get new ones or split and the like, just do something.
- 39:39I'm tired of seeing them being hoarded. That's how I feel. It's
- 39:44been having the tag title conversation for because we have, but now we got
- 39:51different teams. Like I would like to see tag titles on the Creed Brothers.
- 39:54I like to see them on d I. Y hell, I wouldn't
- 39:59even be s. You know, you know I love fucking pretty deadly.
- 40:01Yeah, pretty deadly. Here's another wild one. I feel like they're gonna
- 40:07put the tag titles on Our Truth and Miz one more time. I swear
- 40:12to God it's gonna happen'd here that it's stupid, it's silly. The Our
- 40:19Truth situation with Judgment Day is like the only story going on forward with them,
- 40:25and just toss the Mizen there as a tag tam partner like Dude and
- 40:30Damien's is in that in that you know him and Our Truth have their story
- 40:37and Our Truth just has beef with all of Judgment Day. I don't know.
- 40:40That's just me trying to connect the dots here string all over the map.
- 40:45But if they do that at any point the only time, which for
- 40:50the record, I don't think they're gonna do that, But if they were
- 40:52to do that at any point, the only place I could see that happening
- 40:55would be WrestleMania. Yeah. Boy, if they were to put some final
- 41:00culmination to this Our Truth thing and give him a WrestleMania moment as the veteran
- 41:06what him and miss two senior veterans of the locker room, If they were
- 41:12to give them a moment, I could see them challenging for the tag titles
- 41:16at WrestleMania and winning and them being the ones to finally in judgment Day's tag
- 41:22title rank. Yeah. I don't know if Our Truth has never had a
- 41:28solo match and one on one match in WrestleMania, and I hope that he
- 41:31gets one, and I guess maybe it won't be this year, maybe it
- 41:35won't be ever doing nothing, but that's his hero. Yeah, No,
- 41:39you can't go ahead here, Yeah he could. He could always fight the
- 41:44Rock, I mean, like the not doing nothing right Apparently we don't know
- 41:47anymore. Yeah, so yeah, this match is pretty much set in stone.
- 41:54I'm sure they'll give us a good match. Oh yeah, the match
- 41:59will be good. Yeah, all right, let's move on to the women's
- 42:05Elimination Chamber match for the Women's World Championship. Oh, it's for a match
- 42:13at the World Championship at WrestleMania. That's right. This one's gonna have Becky
- 42:19Lynch, Pianca bell Air, a returning Live Morgan, up and comer from
- 42:24NXT, Tiffany Stratton, returning former Impact Wrestling, their TNA champion Naomi,
- 42:35and back from being out for a while. A lot of returns. Yeah,
- 42:40yeah, a lot of returns, a lot of star power here.
- 42:45I I honestly think that this is another one where the writings on the wall
- 42:51it's Becky Lynch. I mean, we're working towards Becky versus real, Right,
- 42:57that's the goal here, That's this is how it's done. I mean,
- 43:02I'm sure everybody's gonna put on a great show. I feel like the
- 43:07only other thing we might get out of this besides some good, really good
- 43:12spots from like Live Morgan, maybe I expect Tiffany Stratton to maybe do like
- 43:16a moon sawl off off the top. I don't know, but I wonder
- 43:22this is where Bianca bell Are starts her slow heel turn, the frustration of
- 43:30not getting the rumble, the frustration of not winning the chamber. I wonder
- 43:36this is where Biancabella are because I don't know where she goes from here.
- 43:39And I think slowly working that heel turn, no shaking of hands, She's
- 43:45not gonna shake the winner's hand, because I think it's gonna come down to
- 43:47Becky and Bianca, then to the last two, and I think Becky's gonna
- 43:52get the best of Bianca, and I feel like there's gonna be a handshake,
- 43:55and just Bianca is not gonna take it. She's not gonna want it,
- 44:02you think. I don't think this is the start of Beanca's hill turn.
- 44:08I've kind of I've kind of abandoned hope for that. There was a
- 44:15moment where Bianca was being pretty sassy and seemed like she was hit heading that
- 44:21way after she lost her title and was trying to get her look back and
- 44:24such. But now they seem to have fully locked her in as just being
- 44:30a baby face. So I don't think that we're necessarily gonna get a turn
- 44:35towards Uh of Bianca possibly teaming towards Hill, because I don't know who's in
- 44:40this match that she could do something healish against, Like if she decides to
- 44:47ragdal and stomp the fuck out of any woman in this match, the fans
- 44:52will be cool with it. There's not really anybody in this match who's more
- 44:55over than her, and Becky Lynn is the only one that's really in this
- 45:01match that's on her level, and she just beat the crap out of Becky
- 45:05Lynch, I mean rivals. Maybe if Becky's in a postmatch win and then
- 45:09she goes in and she runs back in the cage and beats the crap out
- 45:14of her, then maybe there'd be something there, But I don't see that
- 45:17happening, given that, as we have already been stated, Becky is on
- 45:22a collision course with Ria Ripley at WrestleMania, as if they didn't make that
- 45:27any more fucking obvious from the WrestleMania press conference. But so, it wouldn't
- 45:34make much sense for her to turn heel or or do anything like that against
- 45:38somebody like Becky Lynch when that program isn't slated to happen anytime soon, especially
- 45:45with them both being on separate shows, So I just don't know. You
- 45:52would think we could get something out of this match or tease towards something,
- 45:54and I agree with you. I don't know where Bianca goes after this match
- 45:59going in to Wrestle Media. She's certainly kind of just treading water at this
- 46:06point, and I damn sure. I don't think there's no way in hell
- 46:08they're gonna have Wrestle Media without Beyonca involved the way they're gonna do that without
- 46:14one of their top babyfaces in the company period. So I just don't know
- 46:20where it comes about in this elimination chamber match. I think this might be
- 46:23just pretty standard fair. Just the women go out there and they show out
- 46:28and they tear the house down and beyond, and Becky Lynch comes out on
- 46:31top. I'm not even sure if it'll come down to Beyonc and Becky,
- 46:36given that we thought that the Royal Rumbo was gonna come down to a predictable
- 46:45finish in terms of the final four competitors, and yet Beyonca, I think,
- 46:50was eliminated earlier than expected, Jade was put out earlier than expected.
- 46:54Who was the final three? Was what? Becky it was Bailey Live Morgan
- 47:00and was it Jade Yep, they were. They were the last three Jade
- 47:07Jade living by and then Bailey out. I Live did take Ja, That's
- 47:16right. I don't know want I thought somebody else took Jade out. I
- 47:19just remember Live hanging on to somebody at the end. But yeah, I
- 47:24think I think just as a way to try to surprise us, I could
- 47:29see I could almost see them eliminating Bianca, Bianca being like the third or
- 47:35fourth one eliminated, and then coming down to Becky Lynch and somebody else and
- 47:39what they think is surprising us, but it actually just makes it even more
- 47:44predictable than we already believe it to be. There was an elimination chamber match
- 47:49where Edge and John Cena and Raymond Stereo and I forget who else, A
- 47:55couple of the wrestlers, Shawn Michaels I think may have even been in Jericho.
- 48:00But they eliminated John Cena first, and he was the champion. I
- 48:04think, like I remember just everybody in the chamber just hitting the finisher on
- 48:09him one after another, and then Edge got him with the spear and then
- 48:14everybody was shocked, like because that was. That was a shocking moment,
- 48:19like taking John Cena out first, Holy shit, Uh, I could totally
- 48:23see that. The edge, the your edge was in two chamber matches.
- 48:28Yeah, he lost the title, hit one of the titles in the first
- 48:32match, and he was the first eliminated in that match, so you knew
- 48:36you're getting a new uh new champion. And then we took out to enter
- 48:40the second match. And when they ended up winning the other title, yeah,
- 48:44yeah, because I remember that he took Kofey Kingston out, but I'm
- 48:47gonna say I thought it was Kofe, but I didn't want to say that.
- 48:50Can you believe that though? Like losing the world title and winning or
- 48:53whichever it was winning, you know, losing. Yeah, I can't remember
- 48:58if he had the WWE title and then one big gold belt or the other
- 49:01way around. Yeah, either way, that was. That was some pretty
- 49:05cool ship. I mean it's rare that you get cool things like that happening
- 49:07all in one night. Like you know, there was a thing that the
- 49:10Shield all three members held the ww title. I think like maybe it was
- 49:19like oh yeah, somebody, somebody somebody went in his champion lost it to
- 49:22one of them and then got cashed in by somebody else. Yeah, they
- 49:27all three of them went in champion Seth Rollins beat him I think, and
- 49:30then Dean Ambrose catched in. Yeah, so that that's that's crazy. But
- 49:37yeah, that could happen, Like we could see like then take out like
- 49:40right in the get go and the beginning, it's like holy ship Like yeah,
- 49:45I mean that's that wouldn't be a holy ship moment though they did.
- 49:49That was like, oh, Becky's definitely winning. Well if this were happening
- 49:54and in Poughkeepsie or San Francisco or anywhere, you know, that might be
- 50:00a possibility. But are they really gonna fly somebody twenty hours just haven't get
- 50:06taken out, you know what I mean. Like it's so much more of
- 50:08a pain in the ass if you will to have to set up something like
- 50:13that in Australia than it is to do it in Orlando or in Houston or
- 50:19where you know, anywhere in the continental United States. Yeah, but I
- 50:22mean they're all there, so I mean the booking is the booking. But
- 50:24yeah, I agree, it'd be I won't see Biaka being that early off
- 50:29eliminated of it being eliminated that early because again, if she's out, then
- 50:35you're just looking at what Becky versus Raquel live, Tiffany Stratton and Naomi Naomi.
- 50:43Yeah, Becky's definitely fucking winning. The only shocking thing that could happen
- 50:46now that is if Becky Lynch was the first one eliminated. They need to
- 50:51be like, oh, sure, oh, we totally got this wrong.
- 50:54That's kind of like what I thought when Bailey came out third. I was
- 50:58like, oh, wait a minute, maybe get wrong about this. Yeah,
- 51:00and it we'd be in a holy shit moment where like, Okay,
- 51:04are they gonna give us Bianca versus Ria finally at Wrestlemedia or are they going
- 51:08with Live and Live in her Revenge tour or something? Then it'd be compelling.
- 51:12But short of that, there's no real there's nothing really compelling. I
- 51:16don't think that will happen in this match. It'll be a great match,
- 51:22but it will be pretty much by the numbers. Like you said, we're
- 51:27gonna get the most beautiful moon salt from Tiffany Stratton, probably from the top
- 51:30of somebody's chamber, and all the other things. Will probably get a dual
- 51:36power moment from Raquel and Bianca where they're both holding somebody up for supplexes and
- 51:44staring at each other. There'll be a tower. May mean there won't be
- 51:46there'll be a tower. Oh no, there will be a tower from probably
- 51:50from the from the tottom to the top rope and then to the chamber.
- 51:53Yeah. Well yeah, I mean look looking at who I think. So,
- 51:59oh, I'm sorry, did you pick you picked Becky Lynch? Oh
- 52:01yeah, yeah, no Timody Stratten for to win. But when I like
- 52:10to do with these matches, and I did this, I did the same
- 52:14thing with both. It's just kind of go through the participants and start knocking
- 52:16off people that aren't going to win, right, So, like, no
- 52:20matter who wins Riha versus Nia, it's going to be the winner of the
- 52:23Chamber is going to face a heel I guess is kind of more of between
- 52:27her, but a heel for for our purposes here. So right off the
- 52:30bat, I had disqualify Tiffany Stratton, and I had to qualify her anyway
- 52:34because it's just too soon for her to be in that kind of high profile
- 52:37match just yet. I feel like Naomi hasn't been back long enough to really
- 52:43re establish herself into the women's division. I think a good showing here here
- 52:46by her would certainly help her in getting re established. But you know,
- 52:52like the old saying goes, you don't have to go over to get over.
- 52:55So I think she might she might be the last eliminated or something thing
- 53:00like that, but I don't see her winning, you know. Likewise,
- 53:04Roquel just came back and there's really no story there other than she has a
- 53:08somewhat muscular back talking pretty easily. But I can pretty easily make a case
- 53:14for the other three. Uh liv has called out Ria on TV like Naomi
- 53:20and Raquel. Live is also just kind of returning, but at least there's
- 53:22some story there because she's returning for being injured by Riha Yaka and Rhea,
- 53:30where both are a big part of each other's NXT runs. They really haven't
- 53:35had a whole lot of interaction on the main roster, certainly not recently,
- 53:39and they're sharing the video game cover, so maybe there's some there there.
- 53:45And that's dream match potential right there. People have been wanting that match pretty
- 53:49much since those two were on the main roster, and I think it was
- 53:52didn't they didn't they do the teas? No, it was it last year's
- 53:54elimination Chamber maybe the year before did where they had a moment together where they
- 54:00almost tease, like a potential confrontation because they were both in the Elimination Chambier
- 54:04match and they had the dual supplex moment where they were holding somebody up and
- 54:07staring at each other. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, but I
- 54:13feel like they've all been given away that Becky Lynch is gonna win this,
- 54:15right. I think we all come to the same conclusion. So like,
- 54:20unless there's some major swerve in store, which we kind of alluded to,
- 54:23that's the result I expect. I will, however, present a possible scenario,
- 54:29and that is, if Nia almost beats Rhea and if Becky wins the
- 54:32Chamber, I think Nia may have a case for inserting herself into that Mania
- 54:37match somehow. I don't know if she just comes out and starts wrecking people
- 54:39until Adam Pearce says, fine, you can be you know, or something.
- 54:45Because she just beat the shit out of Becky. She beat the out
- 54:47of everybody. I just feel like they've got so many moving parts around in
- 54:52well, at least three of the four world title matches at WrestleMania. I
- 54:55gotta figure at least one of these is going to become a multi person match
- 55:00somehow. So yeah, I and I didn't speaking to Jade back to her,
- 55:06I did expect to see her here. I didn't expect her to win,
- 55:08and I guess that's why she's not in the match. They don't want
- 55:13her to be pinned or submitted, but you would have to be to lou
- 55:15to not win, right right, So I guess they don't want to expose
- 55:20her yet, which is weird. But they keep trying out Maxine Dupre out
- 55:22there to botch the shit out every move she'd done, so they got no
- 55:27they got no problem exposing her. So I'm not sure why. It's quite
- 55:30the double standard. But yeah, that's the only reason I can think that
- 55:37Jade didn't get inserted into this because if she's not going to win the match,
- 55:40they don't want her penned already. Yeah, it makes sense that they
- 55:44would want to protect her. They may have thought that putting her in this
- 55:47match, it'd be a way for her to come in rex Shop looks strong,
- 55:52you know, still showcase her while protecting hers from a performance standpoint by
- 55:58not having to carry a match one on one, but then yeah, there's
- 56:00also that other side that if she's in it and she's not gonna win it,
- 56:05then she's got to get pinned by somebody. I mean. And and
- 56:07speaking of Beyonce, I almost beyoncas uh WrestleMania plans, Like if Jade had
- 56:15been in this match, I could have seen either them going against each other
- 56:20or deciding that they want to team up together or something. Uh, And
- 56:23I think that may be the direction we're going in anyway, I kind of
- 56:27hope they're not going to face each other. I think it's way too soon
- 56:30for that. I think you want to build that, But I was I
- 56:32would really love to see them as a tag team. I think give the
- 56:37first their first rivalry. Give him who's that Zoe Stark and uh, give
- 56:45him that right there, first rivalry. Yeah, I think I think that
- 56:50the two of them and they uh almost set of Cai Warriors. Jesus Christ,
- 56:54I'm having a real real the Kabookie Warriors. I think that would be
- 57:00a awesome wrestling that. Oh yeah, it would, And I would I'm
- 57:05with you on the same boat. I would love to see Bianca and Jada's
- 57:07allies or friends before they become because somebody's gonna turn on the other one,
- 57:14right, And I don't want to see them do the quick hot shot booking
- 57:17that we all that people want to see happen. Like, let's give that
- 57:22time, let that cook, let that cimmer for a while before you and
- 57:27come up with a story that's actually worthwhile, so that way there's more of
- 57:30a reason to care about it than just Bianca Bell there versus Jay Cargo.
- 57:36Yeah, give us some give us another reason, more reason to be invested
- 57:39in it. And yeah, they probably did pull her out for the very
- 57:43reason that you said, protecting her in the match and all. Yeah,
- 57:46the late great Jerry Jarrett said, personal issues draw money, so you got
- 57:52to get them yet them in some type of relationship before the relationship could fall
- 57:57apart. Yeah, the only problem I want to see it. I'm kind
- 58:00of apprehensive on whether we're going to see it now, given that I'm not
- 58:07I don't know that she's gonna end up on SmackDown, given that we just
- 58:10saw bron Breaker sign with SmackDown. And I've kind of maintained the point that
- 58:16these two are being courted pretty much since the Rumble Breaker in j Cargill,
- 58:22So I didn't think that one GM was gonna land both of them. I
- 58:27always thought that one one of them is gonna end up on SmackDown, the
- 58:30other's gonna end up on Raw. I wouldn't see what you wouldn't see what
- 58:34GM pull a clean sweet exactly. Since we got bron Breaker on SmackDown.
- 58:39I'm of the mindset now that J Cargile is probably going to end up on
- 58:44Raw. And if that's the case, then there's no space for them to
- 58:50pair up unless they do another draft post WrestleMania and move Bianca back to Raw.
- 58:58But also in terms of what brand she's gonna already said this to you,
- 59:01I think I wouldn't be surprised to see her be a you know,
- 59:06quote unquote free agent, you know, like Brock was, where he just
- 59:09shows up where he feels like it. I could see them maybe doing going
- 59:14that route. But I don't know if I like it, but I could
- 59:15see them doing that if because if she decides that, okay, both of
- 59:20y'all got good offers, But I think I'm gonna just stay a free agent
- 59:22for now and I'll just do my thing even when she's integrated. Finally,
- 59:27into the roster. I don't know that she's going to be there every week.
- 59:32I think she would. I think she will be when it when she
- 59:36feels like they've dragged it out long enough. I think, like Roman reigns.
- 59:43Yeah, yeah, no, four weeks, a month maybe or something.
- 59:45But I don't. I just don't know if I can see her being
- 59:47like the featured attraction type thing where like a Logan Paul or something like that,
- 59:52where they just pop in work a program, gone. I don't.
- 59:55I don't think that. I think once she's in, I think she'll be
- 59:59in for time well, I mean, whatever it is. It will be
- 1:00:04interesting to see how they end up. Definitely like she's gonna have to lose
- 1:00:08eventually, right And when Ronda Rousey finally lost, boy did the shine come
- 1:00:14off of that rose real fast, which she became just another wrestler. So
- 1:00:19it'll be interesting to see if the same fate awaits Miss Cargo or not.
- 1:00:25Yeah, And I wonder if that's I wonder if they're that's part of the
- 1:00:28reason why there's kind of slow roll in this one or with her this time,
- 1:00:31that they're trying to learn from the mistakes that they made with Rond ww
- 1:00:37especially with the mistakes. We don't do that here. I don't know,
- 1:00:44I give give give Paul some credit. I know, I hope so,
- 1:00:47I mean, I'm a big Jade fan. I really hope she works out.
- 1:00:52She seems like a great person. So, but beyond that, it's,
- 1:00:55you know, just the more good wrestlers we have, and especially in
- 1:00:59the Whim's vision, the better. Mm hmm. So move. I wonder
- 1:01:04if they have somebody in the in the creative staff. That's like obviously they
- 1:01:07probably have some people who kind of somewhat focus on it. I almost wish
- 1:01:10they would have like just a dedicated person like you, your focus is strictly
- 1:01:17this, like strictly the women's division, on strictly the women's tag division.
- 1:01:22You focusing on that and just build that out. Well, maybe they have
- 1:01:27somebody, maybe they don't, but I don't know. Sometimes it seems like
- 1:01:30they do have somebody that's focusing on it, and then that person gets pulled
- 1:01:32off like a fucking women, I need you to do work on this judgment
- 1:01:37they storyline right quick. Finley was that person he was as far as like
- 1:01:44they're in ring work, Yeah, he was that one working with them in
- 1:01:46the ring and it showed I'm talking about just from a creative standpoint, from
- 1:01:51storyline stuff to the question, yeah, let's move on to the X match,
- 1:01:59because this one I want. Why didn't we ever get another Evolution pay
- 1:02:02per view? That great question. I wonder why. I don't know,
- 1:02:08wonder if they maybe thought it was gimmicky or if they thought that, all
- 1:02:12right, it was a one time thing, especially if they're going to stop
- 1:02:15doing a pay per view in December. Yeah, why not throw it in
- 1:02:19December. It wouldn't be a bad idea. But I mean it doesn't really
- 1:02:22even have to forward all that many storylines. I mean, you could just
- 1:02:28kind of just be a showcase. Yeah, if they were to. Personally,
- 1:02:36I think I'm of the mindset that I don't. I'm good without there
- 1:02:39being any pl e in December, because I'd rather the wrestlers get their time
- 1:02:43off at the end of the year and just you know, rest recover,
- 1:02:47come back in January hit the ground running full speed into wrestle media. But
- 1:02:52if they were to throw something in December, I think I would rather see
- 1:02:55not to bite off of a w but like a crossover type of show that's
- 1:03:01not about storyline or anything just purely about spectacle, like a forbidden door type
- 1:03:06thing. Yeah. Yeah, like a w W versus the world. Yeah
- 1:03:13yeah, close out the year with some show with New Japan or Stardom or
- 1:03:20TNA or something where you just do cross promotional matches and it's just it's just
- 1:03:24a showcase. It doesn't have to be about being storylines or this, that
- 1:03:30and the third or what's happening with this or the next show is just we're
- 1:03:35just putting on the show to close out the year. Yeah, but WWLY
- 1:03:40isn't so much a pro wrestling show anymore as it is a show that has
- 1:03:45wrestling on it, you know. I think I don't know if I don't
- 1:03:50know how much appetite there would be now, I mean I said I already
- 1:03:52endorsed this. It's a good idea, but now that I'm thinking about it,
- 1:03:58I don't know how much of an appetite there would be. I mean,
- 1:04:00I don't know that you go to WWE looking for work rate or five
- 1:04:04star expecting to see five star matches or whatever. I think their whole thing
- 1:04:10is that everything is about the story or whatever. In terms of an event
- 1:04:16itself. I think it would be great, but I don't know if the
- 1:04:18WWE audience specifically, I don't know how into it that'd be. I'd be
- 1:04:24into it, you'd be into it, I think, guys. I think
- 1:04:30some people probably would, But I think the people who appreciate professional wrestling would
- 1:04:35Those who are just the sports entertainment fans, they probably wouldn't care for it
- 1:04:39because they'd probably be like, who are these nobodies? Who the fuck is
- 1:04:43will Osprey? We don't know who he is. He's a nobody. He's
- 1:04:45not on SETH Probins level. The fuck he ain't. But meanwhile, all
- 1:04:50the professional wrestling fans would just be foaming at the mouth for like a Will
- 1:04:55Osprey versus Ricochet match. The sports entertainment fans would just be like, oh,
- 1:05:00big Carter versus nobody. I want to see the ship. So the
- 1:05:06elimination chamber. I let you guys go on your rent for a while,
- 1:05:12and I was like, I'll wait for it, wait for it, wait
- 1:05:15for it, all right, elimination chamber. So I bring up Brickishet and
- 1:05:19as like, Okay, how do we get here? How do we get
- 1:05:23here? Uh? Anyway, So the next match on the card is really
- 1:05:30Ripley. The women's World champion versus Nia Jacks. Now, uh, you
- 1:05:38know this is weve Ripley's whole hometown. Uh you know, I don't what's
- 1:05:43kind of weird Other Australians you don't see on the card here, you don't
- 1:05:47see Yeah, no, it's not. It's not a town at all.
- 1:05:50It's it's two time zones away from her hometown. Yeah, Australia is fucking
- 1:05:56humongous, right, and it's it's it's like, uh, the difference between
- 1:06:00l A and Boston or something like that. I mean, she's gonna be
- 1:06:04over huge. It's her home country, for sure, she's gonna be over
- 1:06:08like over like, Oh, I don't know. Dakota KaiA on the card
- 1:06:14somehow to be there or Bronson Reed could have been in the elimination chamber.
- 1:06:19Who's the who's the gawky girl? Uh yeah, Indie heartwell's Australia one off
- 1:06:30the card. None of them about to sacrifice. They announced this this card
- 1:06:38like half an hour after they fired Emma last year. Oh yeah, remember
- 1:06:44she she tweeted something like, oh this is a dream come true. I
- 1:06:46can't wait, and then like an hour later it's like, oh, never
- 1:06:48mind, I just got really. Oh yeah, I was so dirty,
- 1:06:56brutal. You know, somebody saw that. We were like, oh sh
- 1:07:00it, somebody call her. Yeah, hey, Ema, saw your tweet
- 1:07:06and about that. You didn't book a plane ticket already, did you?
- 1:07:13Yeah, you can get a refund cuz, yeah, we're done with you.
- 1:07:20Oh gosh, yeah, I mean this is another match. I think
- 1:07:26that the writings on the wall, I mean like they could swour of us.
- 1:07:30But I see, you know, she hasn't defended this title in a
- 1:07:32while, and she seems to be obviously the most over female in the company
- 1:07:40right now. I mean, and she hasn't really had a great title ring.
- 1:07:45No, but I mean it's not her fault. She's doing great work,
- 1:07:47but the opponents just haven't been there for him. No, the opponents
- 1:07:54haven't been there, The stories haven't been there, The stories haven't been there.
- 1:07:58So I guess more that I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean,
- 1:08:03I'm sure we're gonna get some impressive stuff during this match. You know,
- 1:08:08we're gonna experience Ria probably picking Nya's ass up. And and now that
- 1:08:13I saw uh, you know, Jade Cargill do it, I was like,
- 1:08:15oh, well, Rial should be able to do it. Right,
- 1:08:18so pick her up, yes, pull off a good looking rip tide that
- 1:08:25is up to debate. Man, You're absolutely correct there, And uh,
- 1:08:30I think they're gonna put on a pretty decent match because they've been really pushing
- 1:08:34Naya, like really been pushing her, like we just said earlier, like
- 1:08:40she beat Becky Lynch clean on the raw, like yeah, and I was
- 1:08:45just like when it happened, I was like, oh ship, like caught
- 1:08:48off the top bach with that dragon punch. Dude, it caught me off
- 1:08:53guard, Like I did not think they're gonna let her walk away with a
- 1:08:57w over Becky like that. So like, and then she just came in
- 1:09:02to ring this past Monday and squashed all women, all the women that were
- 1:09:06competing in this elimination chamber match. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If
- 1:09:12she almost beat wins this match, and I kind of think that that's how
- 1:09:15it's gonna go, but I'll wait my turn. I could see her weasel
- 1:09:17on her way into the Becky or whoever wins the chamber. Uh yeah,
- 1:09:27what are you thinking, man? Because oh, I think this match is
- 1:09:31pretty boring. I think the most interesting thing about it is what Dom's reception
- 1:09:36is going to be me. He's one of, if not the most you
- 1:09:43know, gets most heel heat of anybody in the company. And I said
- 1:09:45before that Rhea is kind of a tweener, but obviously it's gonna be a
- 1:09:48fucking mega babyface here. I'm kind of interested by the crowd's going to react
- 1:09:54to Dom, you know, that's is he gonna Are they gonna boot arm
- 1:09:58and cheer Rihea? Are they gonna cheer for Dom? That's kind of weird.
- 1:10:02I'll laugh my ass off if dumb gets like a huge pop. Yeah.
- 1:10:06So I like, so I'm kind of interested in that. And I
- 1:10:09mean, and they have done a good job of making nay I look like
- 1:10:12a monster. Uh. And like I said, I expect that she'll have
- 1:10:15a strong show in here. She'll probably get slammed at some point, but
- 1:10:18I think she's gonna beat the ship out a Rhea. Who's gonna, you
- 1:10:23know, summon up the Ovarian fortitude if you will to prevail in the end.
- 1:10:30I mean, I guess they could pull off a shaker here. Uh,
- 1:10:36but I just can't imagine they're Ghana. Ah. But like I said,
- 1:10:42I think I think Ria is gonna squeak out of victory and then Knee
- 1:10:45is gonna throw a fit and get herself inserted into the because one of those
- 1:10:49matches is gonna have to be a multi person match. I would think there's
- 1:10:53so many. That's kind of cool that they have so many people that are
- 1:10:57viable content right now. But yeah, some of these matches I think are
- 1:11:05going to have to be multi person, and I think this looks like an
- 1:11:08spot where it might work. I could very much see that happening if there
- 1:11:14was a match that was going to be turned into a triple threat. I
- 1:11:16could see the Women's World title match being that it because it won't be Bailey
- 1:11:21and oh no, that's absolutely one on one, And it's also kind of
- 1:11:26hard to imagine Becky pinning Ria Clean or Rea pinning Becky Clean. I would
- 1:11:32think that they would want to protect the two of them to some extent,
- 1:11:36and the best way to do that would be to insert a third person into
- 1:11:41the match and have that person be the one to potentially eat the pin for
- 1:11:45the other one to win. That idea a lot of a triple threat for
- 1:11:49the Yeah, Rea is chasing back the titles she never lost, that she
- 1:11:54never Yeah that she never officially technically she was never technically pinned, she was
- 1:11:59never the title. Great the storylines between all three characters very much intertwined that
- 1:12:03you could totally pull this off. I mean yeah, because I mean yeah,
- 1:12:10I could see you on Monday night on Raw. She comes out,
- 1:12:14you know, I just beat the ship out of Backy, like put me
- 1:12:17in this match or just start with shoals or security or whatever, and Adam
- 1:12:24Pierce finally okay, fine, fine you can yeah after like she goes off
- 1:12:30for like a week or two or something like that, and then get keep
- 1:12:34beating people up until you let me in the match whatever. Oh yeah,
- 1:12:40I could certainly see that. And maybe she has to win a handicap match
- 1:12:44or something to get the spot. I don't know. Yeah, I mean
- 1:12:47there's virtually zero chance of Nya Jack's winning this match at all whatsoever. Because
- 1:12:55as nothing against Nya. I love Nya and I think she's actually put in
- 1:13:00a lot of genuine work in this second run with WWE. She's shown improvement.
- 1:13:05She doesn't look anywhere near as reckless in the ring. She's improved her
- 1:13:09mic work to some extent. To an extent, I still think of needs
- 1:13:13some work. I think there's some things she could improve on it, but
- 1:13:16she's definitely put in the work and she's definitely better now than she was before.
- 1:13:21That being said, she's still not Wrestlemedia main event material, at least
- 1:13:27not as the champion, as a participant in a match, certainly, but
- 1:13:30as being the person that the elimination Chamber winner is having to face. No,
- 1:13:38No, you're not putting Naya Jacks versus Becky Lynch on the Wrestle Media
- 1:13:42marque and think anybody's rocking with that? Not when other option is Becky Lynch
- 1:13:47versus real Bloody Ripley. The only thing that's really interesting, The only parts
- 1:13:54of this match that are interesting to me is one, what is the RIPTI
- 1:13:58gonna look like when Rea Ripley tries to pull that off on Naya? And
- 1:14:01two is w w ee bold enough to make this match the main event?
- 1:14:09Which I think for the record is no, but I think it should be
- 1:14:13yes because in her home punch usually I usually think about things like that,
- 1:14:17and it didn't even occur to me, like they're not going to go chamber,
- 1:14:21but they have, they have that whole Grayson Waller effect segment. Yeah,
- 1:14:27it might be chamber tag match, Chamber tag match, Grayson Waller Effect
- 1:14:33Chamber Rea match. Yeah, and to me, I think that's how it
- 1:14:38should be. It's in her hometown, and they don't want to run the
- 1:14:41risk of well, they should not want to run the risk of the crowd
- 1:14:45being so freaking hyped up from Theria match that they have nothing left for the
- 1:14:49men's chamber match, especially since the men's chamber match doesn't feature Cody or Seth
- 1:14:56or anybody else in it. Really, that can garner a mass of pop
- 1:15:00like that? I mean yet, Randy Orton, Yes, can get a
- 1:15:01pop. But we'll obviously we'll get to that match when we get to it.
- 1:15:06But yeah, it would not be a bad decision to make Ria Ripley's
- 1:15:12match the last match so she can have that moment in that pop like what
- 1:15:15had a backlash? Yeah, I bet think of chamber match, tag team
- 1:15:18match, Grayson Waller Effect Chamber match Rehn. Yeah, that's it. I
- 1:15:25think that would probably be the spark booking. Let her have her moment,
- 1:15:29let her main event it again. Y'all got her on the cover of two
- 1:15:31K twenty four. She one of the top women face women wrestlers in the
- 1:15:36company. One of the faces of y'all company overall in her home country.
- 1:15:42And again, you don't want to burn out your crowd on this match and
- 1:15:44have nothing left for what you think would be your main event of the men's
- 1:15:48elimination Chamber. Let them, let them take a back seat. Cool?
- 1:15:58Uh, you got is ready to move on to the main event. Well
- 1:16:03we didn't we just decide? Did we just talk about it? I guess
- 1:16:13yeah, I know, right, I would kind of like that to be
- 1:16:15the main event. But we'll see, We'll see what they do. Who
- 1:16:18do you guys think speaking the Grace of wall Effect? What do you guys
- 1:16:21think you're gonna be on it? Cody? And then we're west certainly probably
- 1:16:27going to get an interruption from the Bloodline, I think, I think I
- 1:16:30think the Grace of Waller Effect segment will probably be used to set up the
- 1:16:35rum word Cody and Seth versus Rock and Roman match at WrestleMania Night one.
- 1:16:44Yeah, I know, I just I don't really see it happening. I
- 1:16:47mean, I think out of all, out of all four of them,
- 1:16:50I think Cody is the only one really even capable of working two nights in
- 1:16:55a row. I don't think rock has I don't know if Roman is that's
- 1:16:59her right. I wouldn't be surprised if this Grayson Waller effect turned into a
- 1:17:03tag match with Seth and Cody versus Grayson Waller and Austin Thiery. That wouldn't
- 1:17:09surprise me. Like an impromptu match. Yes, I think this is I
- 1:17:14mean, there's only four matches I looked. I looked it up, of
- 1:17:17course, because of course I did. Most elimination chamber matches are only about
- 1:17:23a half an hour, so it's not like a rumble where like like you
- 1:17:28know, two and a half hours of that was Royal Rumble match. This
- 1:17:31is only gonna be one hour before match show. So I think that this
- 1:17:35segment is going to be twenty twenty five minutes long. Oh absolutely, And
- 1:17:40I think that's a half hour. But they have been going specifically out of
- 1:17:45the way to stay that the Rockets not going to be there. Now does
- 1:17:49that mean that doesn't preclude him from appearing, I suppose, But like I
- 1:17:55said, it's not like this show was in des Moines's. This the show
- 1:17:57was in the other side of the fucking play in it, you know,
- 1:18:00So like how easily can you get a rock on the plane and set them
- 1:18:05over there just to do a run in, you know, but we'll see
- 1:18:11somebody like, excuse me, somebody like the Rock. I think is probably
- 1:18:15easier than most because he probably has a private jet. Yeah, I'll give
- 1:18:18you that. And he lives in California, so it's not like he's flying
- 1:18:21across the United States and then across the Pacific. He could just hop on
- 1:18:26a private jet, be over in Perth, do his thing, and then
- 1:18:30head back. And I still believe it's going to be Cody and and and
- 1:18:36Seth in the some segment involving the blood line, because nobody else on the
- 1:18:41blood line is booked for the show. And do we really think we're gonna
- 1:18:44get an entire pod with the zero bloodline involvement at all? No Jimmy,
- 1:18:49no j no solo, no it. I highly doubt that. Like,
- 1:18:56there's gonna be something. I think this is gonna be it. And And
- 1:19:00the perfect way to stretch that segment out would be Cody and Seth being out
- 1:19:03there doing their thing, YadA YadA. All of a sudden, Roman's music
- 1:19:08hits and he has his nice, you know, fifteen ten minute walk to
- 1:19:14the ring helps drag it out a little bit longer and we get a surprise
- 1:19:18appearance from The Rock, and I think that could potentially set up the match
- 1:19:24because we know Seth ain't working shit till WrestleMania as far as matches, so
- 1:19:30that should give him time to heal up and be able to pull off a
- 1:19:32tag team match with some limited involvement where Cody would probably take the brunt of
- 1:19:38the beating and then leave Seth enough in the tank to work his title match
- 1:19:45night too. Again, also the same thing applied would apply to The Rock,
- 1:19:50presumably he'd work limited as somewhat in that match, obviously going back and
- 1:19:57forth with Roman beating the snot out of Cody and then Cody and Roman are
- 1:20:02also probably the one who would do the most heavy lifting in that match would
- 1:20:05be Cody, as he should as the future face of the company. Probably.
- 1:20:11So still, that's where I met with it, because I just don't
- 1:20:14see the crowd getting up for and impromptu Cody Seth versus Grayson Waller and Austin
- 1:20:20theory. I don't even think we'll see Austin Theory on the show. Really.
- 1:20:25Well, you know Rayson Waller is Australian obviously, but like I said
- 1:20:30with Ray Ripley. He's not from Perth either, He's from a whole He's
- 1:20:33from Sydney Wads on the other side of the continent. Uh so it's it's
- 1:20:40he might. I think he's gonna go. He might get a pop when
- 1:20:42he comes out, and then he's gonna ship all over them, some local
- 1:20:45thing. He's gonna make fun of the game whatever, and he's gonna get
- 1:20:48all the heat back anyway. Oh yeah, I think I think he'll get
- 1:20:55the crowd riled up enough that they'll be thrilled to see him get his ass
- 1:20:58checked. And I think that's a good spot for a one leged seth rawlins
- 1:21:01to just kind of hand out a little beating real quick and not. But
- 1:21:11yeah, he's definitely gonna dunk on the crowd because he's got to be able
- 1:21:14to get some hell going where you bring out the baby faces. Did you
- 1:21:18see, uh, speaking of Grayson Walla, did you see a couple of
- 1:21:21weeks ago, Uh, they sent him in l A. Knight to Australia
- 1:21:27to do some talk show for you know, publicity for the upcoming What happened
- 1:21:35Uh at the end of it, I mean it's pretty nice it's it's a
- 1:21:39nice interview. L A. Knight was kind of funny. Uh but at
- 1:21:43the end of the at the end, they have one of the backstage people
- 1:21:45comes out and he and he's like bouncing around and he's like, oh,
- 1:21:47yeah, do one of your moves. Do one of your moves, and
- 1:21:51uh l A. Knight just goes like, if I did that, they
- 1:21:55showed like his whenever when I got it, let me they show that like
- 1:22:00whatever he does, I want to think right now would be a real bad
- 1:22:03day for you. And then he's like grappling. But but Grayson Waller gets
- 1:22:08pissed. He's like, you're gonna you're gonna bring us here and then disrespect
- 1:22:12us. But he gets fucking pissed. I thought it looked like he was
- 1:22:15gonna take a swing at this camera guy or whoever comes out. He's dancing
- 1:22:18around like, oh, let's fight, let's fight, and Grayson Waller gets
- 1:22:23fucking pissed. Yeah here, hold on, second, I got I got
- 1:22:27a sound bite from it chet finishing moves. Can I give you can you
- 1:22:34can you show us one of the I think just showed on the screen there.
- 1:22:40If I do that, it's not gonna be somebody actually that for a
- 1:22:45minute, just leaving this week. Yeah, and he's sort of that's uh,
- 1:22:50that's not for me. You want to go ahead and take this one
- 1:22:55you, I don't you understand, like if I'll come over there on now,
- 1:23:00have the police here because I'm not going to give you some fake punch
- 1:23:01like I'm gonna punch you straight in the jaw. I think out the actually
- 1:23:03disrespect that you have even talking to me. I think you want to talk
- 1:23:06to me like this is this is ain't real? No, don't actual top
- 1:23:10live. Don't actual top I get in the middle of this. Can you
- 1:23:13kick down? Get him out of it. We're gonna get out of there.
- 1:23:15You get so, I'm not talking to me trying disrespect that. Are
- 1:23:19you kidding me? I'm not disrespecting you, and I know we love you
- 1:23:23also, you know yeah, hey, you take that trash talk and you
- 1:23:26get out of here, like you get out of here, you take that
- 1:23:29trash, you get out. I want to have these guests disrespected like that
- 1:23:31makes you get out your top? Can you rep cold? Your pants tied?
- 1:23:36Okay, thank you very much, gentlemen for coming in. I'm not
- 1:23:40in meanwhile, La, I just sitting there all awkward, not saying a
- 1:23:44fuck yeah, like I got involved in Australian and Australian crime. You just
- 1:23:50wanted him just to like yeah, uh yeah, it's just funny cause I
- 1:23:58was like, oh shit, I just pull it up right here. Yeah,
- 1:24:02that's interesting. One other thing that I've had in the back of my
- 1:24:09head since Seth got involved in all of this. Uh, and I still
- 1:24:14can't quite figure out why. I wonder. I don't know when. I
- 1:24:20guess it could happen as soon as Saturday. I I am expecting that Seth
- 1:24:26is going to turn on Cody somewhere. Uh. It might be after WrestleMania,
- 1:24:30might be at WrestleMania, it might be right before. But I think,
- 1:24:34I think, I think Seth I want to I want I should say
- 1:24:38I want Seth to turn on Cody at some point during this. I think
- 1:24:42that would be awesome because Seth's a snake in the grass man. He's backstabbed
- 1:24:47every single person he's ever been a partner with. Uh, and Cody gets
- 1:24:51turned on by every single person he's partnered up with. So all right,
- 1:24:58well, I want to put my eye. We're definitely gonna get us.
- 1:25:02We're the Seth Cody story definitely isn't over by any means, but I still
- 1:25:09think we're probably a good ways off from seeing the return of heels Seth.
- 1:25:13I think this current face when he's on is a bit is going a bit
- 1:25:16too well for him. But ultimately when he does ever turn heel again,
- 1:25:21it almost certainly will be at the expense of Cody Rhoads. Right, well,
- 1:25:27let's put a pin on that real quick so we can knock out this
- 1:25:30last pedition because it's literally gonna I think it's gonna lead into what we're trying
- 1:25:33to get to here. Most people have the wrong impression about the World Resting
- 1:25:41Federation. We're non violent for him of entertainment. We never use sex to
- 1:25:47enhance our emation that we're good family entertainment to make the world have ever placed
- 1:25:57for mankind? Yeah? Drew McIntyre versus Randy Orton, versus Bobby Lashley versus
- 1:26:13l A. Knight. Yeah versus Ko Kevin Owens and United States Champion Logan
- 1:26:20Paul. I think this is going to be the highlight match of the night.
- 1:26:27I mean really, for the world title, for a shot at the
- 1:26:32world title resume, This could really go to any one of these guys,
- 1:26:36But at the end of the day, I'm pretty bent on it going to
- 1:26:42Drew McIntyre. I think right now they've been pushing Drew very hard, like
- 1:26:48he hasn't lost any matches. He's been just full momentum. He's just internet
- 1:26:56trolling like crazy, Like Doyle said, like this, this guy's all with
- 1:27:00the place, like his heel turn. He's gonna get his moment I just
- 1:27:04saw. You know, this is one of those benefits of a wrestler getting
- 1:27:09injured, is where another one can step in and take that spotlight. And
- 1:27:14you know, Drew McIntire finally having his WrestleMania moment. He's gonna he's gonna
- 1:27:19be able to slide in there and get his moment and you know, be
- 1:27:24done with it. So he's gonna win the chamber and I you know,
- 1:27:28he's gonna be the guy to beat Seth or you know who. I'm pretty
- 1:27:33sure it's Seth. Like the storyline between the tension and the storyline between those
- 1:27:39two, it's just it's perfect, like we've seen it before. But this
- 1:27:45is a different Drew. This is heal Drew. This is I wish they
- 1:27:49would call him the what they used to call him when he was a heal
- 1:27:53of the Scottish psychopath. So they don't. They don't call him that no
- 1:27:58more. I wish they would. I mean, he's not really acting psychotic
- 1:28:01right now. He's just acting more like just a big troll. Yeah,
- 1:28:08that's true, that's true. You know, Logan Paul's the only guy going
- 1:28:15in here with the title and leaving with the title. I see him being
- 1:28:18the guy to be last out in a pod, you know, kind of
- 1:28:26biding his time and then maybe everybody waiting for him outside the pod kind of
- 1:28:30deal because he has a lot of enemies in this match, specifically why I
- 1:28:39don't know why, really why Bobby Lashley is even in here. He's the
- 1:28:44kind of one, He's the one I thought maybe this would have been a
- 1:28:46good spot for Bronson Read to be in, but I kind of didn't understand
- 1:28:51that he was feuding with Carrying Cross. Yeah, Bronson Reid has no credibility
- 1:28:57yet as a title challenger. Bobby Lashley, at least even with the direction
- 1:29:04or lack of direction of his current clip with Street Profits, Bobby Lashley is
- 1:29:11a permanent title contender pretty much. He has that credibility that he could show
- 1:29:16up at any moment and challenge for a title. So that's kind of what
- 1:29:20earns him the spot in his match, even if we all know that he
- 1:29:24stands literally zero chance of winning this one. He's probably just in there just
- 1:29:29because of his credibility and they need a strong man in the match to do
- 1:29:33some power spots, right. I feel like we kind of know a lot
- 1:29:39of these guys where they're heading too, for wrestmating. Like I think Cross
- 1:29:45his stable and Bobby Lashley and Street Profits are got a few at WrestleMania.
- 1:29:50I think that's what they're kind of leading towards. We kind of know where
- 1:29:55Drew McIntyre is heading. I don't know what's going on with Orton or Ko.
- 1:30:00I don't know where these two are heading towards WrestleMania. I'm I kind
- 1:30:05of know a shoulder shrug, like where these two guys go. I really
- 1:30:13think and I said this a long time ago, and there's more and more
- 1:30:17whispers of it, and I think we're gonna fucking get it. I think
- 1:30:20we're gonna get superhel Logan Paul versus super Face l A Knight. Oh yeah,
- 1:30:30his first title. I think this is where the seeds and that will
- 1:30:34be further planned, right. I think I expecting this since pretty much since
- 1:30:41he lost to Roman when he had a Crown jewel, and we've kind of
- 1:30:46all expected like, Okay, if they're not putting the world title on him,
- 1:30:49then he needs some credibility. He needs to maintain his momentum to WrestleMania
- 1:30:54when he wins the US title. So yeah, that's that'll probably begetting here
- 1:31:00in the elimination chamber match. Ray is that nice? And that kind of
- 1:31:02tracks out from like months of us you know, discussing it, like we
- 1:31:06kind of kind of foresaw that, and it's not like U, you know,
- 1:31:12Roman reigns title rain, like where we know this man's holding until WrestleMania.
- 1:31:16That predictable. This one wasn't as predictable as feud uh you know,
- 1:31:21coming up. But it just seem like it's just the perfect feud because of
- 1:31:27how over one guy is and how hated another guy is. Ah. But
- 1:31:33yeah, let's get in the conversation, Dre, who do you think is
- 1:31:38gonna win this elimination chamber match? Is it obvious for you too? Yep?
- 1:31:45Loganball there for high flying spots. Bobby Lashley there for power spots,
- 1:31:50Randy Orton there because he's a big face. La Knight there because he's a
- 1:31:56big face, and to give the impression that somebody else could win, Who
- 1:32:02am I leaving out? Uh, let's say Paul Lashley, Ko Ko also
- 1:32:11in there to be a credible big face. So you got four people in
- 1:32:14there with actual quote unquote credibility as a big face to possibly win, but
- 1:32:19realistically it's gonna be true. Okay, he's the one that's on the path
- 1:32:26towards a match with Seth at again WrestleMania. It's nice that they like to
- 1:32:30include people from both smack Down and Raw, but we know it's gonna be
- 1:32:36somebody from Raw because you're at about to drag somebody off smack Down over the
- 1:32:42Raw to feud for the next couple of weeks with the Raw champion going into
- 1:32:45WrestleMania. Y'all just not gonna do that. So that immediately wipes out Logan,
- 1:32:49Paul, Bobby Lashley, and Kevin Owens and Randy Orton. That's four
- 1:32:56people wiped off immediately because those are all that's all SmackDown talent. So then
- 1:33:01you got Drew and why am I struggling to remember these fuckers' names that are
- 1:33:06in this smash, probably because I think the fact that I remember it struggling
- 1:33:11to remember the names kind of speaks to how predictable this shit is, because
- 1:33:14we all know that this is just a vehicle for Drew McIntyre to win,
- 1:33:18and then you got Drew on Raw, Seth all Raw, and they're Goth
- 1:33:21is gonna be going at it going into WrestleMania, at least for the title,
- 1:33:26while Seth is also playing double duty of being Cody's wingman in his feud
- 1:33:31with the Bloodline, which is gonna stretch. Uh. Seth probably too thin
- 1:33:36and hopefully, in my opinion, finally make him weak quote unquote enough to
- 1:33:45lose the title to Drew McIntyre at WrestleMania. Ain't by numbers, Yeah,
- 1:33:57yeah, you're thinking the same. Yeah, I mean I got there a
- 1:34:01little different, But tell your journey well in some ways, like it's the
- 1:34:08opposite of the women's match, right, just like I don't see Seth if
- 1:34:12I'm assuming Seth stays a baby face, so I don't think he's gonna face
- 1:34:15a baby face at WrestleMania. So you can throw out two thirds of the
- 1:34:18competitors just on that alone, right, And even if he didn't do that,
- 1:34:24Bobby has his stupid feud with Carry and Cross and his stupid group,
- 1:34:28So I don't see him get going away from that. I don't really.
- 1:34:34Yeah, again, I think we're kind of all puzzled by where what's going
- 1:34:39forward with Ko and Randy Orton. I don't think they gained anything from fighting
- 1:34:45a fellow babyface that's of questionable health either. I think they're gonna use this
- 1:34:51match to set up l A Night and Logan Paul. We said that,
- 1:34:57and really that just leaves Drew Jesus is the only raw person in this match,
- 1:35:00right, isn't that weird? The fuck for a roll A title shot
- 1:35:05at the raw no World heavyweight title. Yeah, I'm not so hung up
- 1:35:12on that, but I mean, yeah, his heel run has been pretty
- 1:35:18great the last couple of weeks. It kind of got off to a rocky
- 1:35:23start with that. Drey, I think you were particularly critical. I think
- 1:35:28if you called him a winer quite a bit, and I'm not saying you're
- 1:35:30wrong, but like, I feel like and I feel like the announcers by
- 1:35:38and large have not been doing a great job in terms of pushing the narrative
- 1:35:42forward on some of these things. Like I think in years past, like
- 1:35:46they would have been like, you know what a you know what a dastardly
- 1:35:51thing to not help out Cody while he's getting you know, like how despicable.
- 1:35:55But and they didn't really do that. I didn't make it clear that
- 1:35:58he was that he was turning bad in the first place, and then he
- 1:36:01was kind of whine, you're absolutely right. But the last couple of weeks,
- 1:36:04great fucking promosh. You know, as they said earlier, he's been
- 1:36:09a fucking online troll and that's like such a great use of social media by
- 1:36:15a wrestler. The last few weeks he's been really, really fun. So
- 1:36:20he's one of the hottest heels in the company. And I mean, you
- 1:36:26could argue that Bobby has like a WrestleMania makeup coming to him, you know,
- 1:36:30because of what happened last year. But I think Drew has even is
- 1:36:33even more deserving of one, and has been waiting longer, you know,
- 1:36:39waiting to win the title in front of a crowd and and you know,
- 1:36:42almost beating Roman Reigns and getting screwed out of that. The only thing about
- 1:36:47Drew though, is that he supposedly has his contract coming up and he has
- 1:36:53not re signed. Now I don't know if any of that's true. Who
- 1:36:56the hell knows. He's being advertised for events that happened after his contract is
- 1:37:01supposedly up, so you know, of course take it with a grain of
- 1:37:04salt. But he's also been, you know, continuing this feud with see
- 1:37:09Him Punk, who's not supposed to be back for six eight months or whatever.
- 1:37:14So that seems like a curious thing for a guy that's not going to
- 1:37:16be around to continue to push, you know. And that's kind of like
- 1:37:25where sometimes I kind of wish we didn't know some of this stuff, you
- 1:37:29know, I wish I wasn't thinking about Drew's contract when I'm trying to decide
- 1:37:31who I think is gonna win. So, you know, and the fuck
- 1:37:38notice of any of that, it's it's true or not, who knows.
- 1:37:42But yeah, I mean Drew's really an on person that makes any sense to
- 1:37:44win this match. I think that's a clean sweep. Yeah, I mean,
- 1:37:49like think about the offer they probably just made him, Like I mean,
- 1:37:54we kind of heard about this for a while that like, oh,
- 1:37:58he hasn't re signed and we I think I've been sprinkling it in a couple
- 1:38:02for a couple of months now. Uh, but like, who knows if
- 1:38:05any of that's even true exactly. But if even if it wasn't, like
- 1:38:10the whole situation was seeing punk and now he might, Hey, we'll give
- 1:38:15you your world title win at WrestleMania. I guess that's wrong. It's like
- 1:38:19if you stay, like you know, because let's face it, if he
- 1:38:25would, let's say he would even go to a W like, Drew's not
- 1:38:28the type of guy he's gonna like thrive in a W like. There isn't
- 1:38:32many w W wrestlers who go over there and thrive anymore. I mean,
- 1:38:40I just lost in the shuffle. Yeah, I think Yeah, I think
- 1:38:45so too. I think if if they're giving this guy an elimination chamber of
- 1:38:49spot possibly a whirl or world title match, like, dude, come on,
- 1:38:55they're giving you a world title match unless you've resigned on Yeah, I
- 1:38:59think I think he has already resigned. I think all that speculation and stuff
- 1:39:04that's coming on dirt shades, I think it's I think it's WW deliberately putting
- 1:39:09out false information. I think because there's been some recent rumor coming out or
- 1:39:15say rumor, but some speculation that WW has I guess, found out who
- 1:39:19the leaker is in their company or who leakers are in their company, and
- 1:39:25are kind of deliberately giving false information either to them or something so that he
- 1:39:30gets put out there in a way to mislead the audience, to try to
- 1:39:33keep some of their things secret, because I believe this past Monday, it
- 1:39:38came out this past Monday that there was a strong perception that Jay was gonna
- 1:39:43win the title. How anybody thought that really seriously, I don't know,
- 1:39:47but it was put out there a lot that Jay's actually gonna win. Jay's
- 1:39:51actually gonna win. And I think that was deliberate by WWE to try to
- 1:39:57throw people off of what common says. It should have told them that no,
- 1:40:00Goonter's not dropping the fucking title. But I think that could be.
- 1:40:05I think WW is playing this game now of putting out deliberate false information in
- 1:40:12order to try to throw people off the trail of what is seemingly the obvious
- 1:40:16things. So they're keeping things like they're deliberately putting out there that uh,
- 1:40:24Drew hasn't signed a deal or yet or there's no word about it, realistic
- 1:40:29supposed to be up soon. Yeah, that they're up sooner. These people
- 1:40:31haven't resigned when anybody will common sense, it's like, yes, they've signed.
- 1:40:34Of course they've signed. They're not investing all this into Drew for a
- 1:40:39guy whose contract could be up the day after Wrestle Media or something like that.
- 1:40:45Obviously he signed. Seth and Becky. Obviously they have signed. Again,
- 1:40:49they're the top faces in the company. Anywhere else the NFL were like
- 1:40:56contracts or public knowledge, you know, like we have known idea what these
- 1:41:00people are making or how like how their chip works. Yeah, there's there's
- 1:41:04no there's no uh uh union. There's no players union, no wrestlers union
- 1:41:10or anything like that that negotiates these things like that, a salary cap mm
- 1:41:15hmm. And then and for Seth and Becky, there's nothing that any promotion
- 1:41:19or any independen scene can offer that can match what they're getting right now in
- 1:41:24the w W or what they can stand again in the w W. Still,
- 1:41:28obviously they're not going any fucking where. And I think, and like
- 1:41:31the whole thing with uh going back to the Grayson Waller effect, I think
- 1:41:35it's probably delivery deliberately being put out there. Oh the Rock can't make it.
- 1:41:40Oh the Rock doesn't have time. So that way, when if you
- 1:41:43smell his you're surprised, but oh shit, he actually made it, duh.
- 1:41:49So honestly, I think that's the game that WW is playing right now.
- 1:41:53I think they're deliberately leaking or putting out false information to their leakers to
- 1:41:59throw try to throw people off the trail of what is seemingly obvious things playing
- 1:42:04coming into play going into WrestleMania. Yeah, I mean, I think they're
- 1:42:15definitely leaking stuff that's not true. But I feel like that's been going on
- 1:42:19since the dawn of time or since the dawn of the internet wrestling community anyway.
- 1:42:27Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's very valid as well. I
- 1:42:30think they may just be I don't know if it's more savvy at it right
- 1:42:33now is the thing, or more bold with it or what have you.
- 1:42:38But well, I mean that the business isn't nearly as protected as it once.
- 1:42:44But you know what I mean, like like forty years ago, baby
- 1:42:51Face didn't go to the same restaurant or the same bar, or they didn't
- 1:42:55socialte you know what, I mean like, it's totally different world now,
- 1:43:01all right, everybody knows what the fuck raid looks like. Oh shit,
- 1:43:10all right, well I got a question for the episode, so here we
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- 1:44:00She says, Did you guys know that the pay per view starts at
- 1:44:03four thirty in the morning. Who's gonna be up at four thirty in the
- 1:44:09morning to watch it? All right? Well, it's funny that that she
- 1:44:15asked that, who's willing to be up at like four thirty to watch it?
- 1:44:20I get up every day at three thirty in the morning, so I
- 1:44:25could be up, But it is my one Saturday off in a long time,
- 1:44:30so I don't know. I'm making I don't know. I think I
- 1:44:34might just try to sleep in maybe six seven o'clock. Maybe I'll turn it
- 1:44:40on and try to watch them at the beginning. But one thing I do
- 1:44:44hate about these kind of pay per views is like trying to avoid spoilers all
- 1:44:48day. I I'm pretty sure you guys had it before some of our Saudi
- 1:44:53shows and stuff. If you just can't make it to the pay per view
- 1:44:56on time, because it's like smack in the middle of a day, on
- 1:45:00like a Saturday or something, It's like you got to stay off your phone
- 1:45:03all day. It's like because the way you know, the WW is like
- 1:45:10we need to post everything all the time, every minute, everything that's happening
- 1:45:14on every social media network with every hashtag available. So it's like I gotta
- 1:45:19avoid my phone until I can I can watch it. So yeah, it
- 1:45:25doesn't really bother me, Like, no way, there's no chance in hell
- 1:45:29I'm going to get to this before. Uh. I don't know. I
- 1:45:34might not even watch Saturday at all, don't even the truth, man,
- 1:45:40But like I will certainly when I sit down to watch it. No,
- 1:45:43everything that's gonna happen like and I don't care. That doesn't bother me.
- 1:45:46I don't go out of my way to avoid spoilers, where in fact I
- 1:45:49will generally kind of go see what the spoiler is. This past Monday,
- 1:45:58I think we all already think, you know what's gonna happen, right,
- 1:46:00So if if nothing else happens, are we going to be that surprised?
- 1:46:04Right? I mean, you go down to watch the Avenger movie, you
- 1:46:08know that they're gonna win, you know what I mean? Like, so
- 1:46:11you know, knowing what's gonna happen, there's a certain amount of okayness for
- 1:46:16me with that, Like you know, the getting there it is just as
- 1:46:20interesting as there for me, Like, Okay, I know someone so is
- 1:46:25gonna win, but what happened? You know, Oh they almost dropped them
- 1:46:29on their head on that one, and you say, or you could clearly
- 1:46:31hear them call on the spot on you know. I like to watch for
- 1:46:33that kind of shit, even if I know what's gonna happen. Uh?
- 1:46:38Yeah, Am I getting up for this? At four o'clock in the morning
- 1:46:42hills at the naw When I was younger, I sometimes would just be getting
- 1:46:46home. But those days are God right, certainly, am I gonna?
- 1:46:53Am I getting up for this? No? But what I am going to
- 1:46:56do because this is my three day weekend. Fortunately, after tomorrow, I'll
- 1:47:00be on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So what I'm gonna do is,
- 1:47:03I'm gonna wake up on Saturday. I'm gonna cook myself a nice breakfast,
- 1:47:08not gonna get on social media or anything, just cook myself a nice breakfast,
- 1:47:13and then I'll sit down and watch the pl at my normal Saturday morning
- 1:47:16time. I haven't been spoiled of anything, but just be able to enjoy
- 1:47:21it fresh without any seeing any posts or any complaints or bitching or morning or
- 1:47:28whatever the Internet has to say about what happened on the show. And I'll
- 1:47:31watch it as it is happening, and then I'll go see what the hell
- 1:47:35everybody's crying about. Crying about? Yeah, man, I guess we'll see.
- 1:47:45But yeah, dude, like I think I want to do exactly what
- 1:47:48you're doing is just maybe just sleeping and then when I wake up, just
- 1:47:53make a nice breakfast because I don't know, man, watching a pay per
- 1:47:56view in the morning breakfast that hits different exactly ordering the pizza, drinking beer
- 1:48:01watching Pippert Night exactly as opposed to the Saturday night pizza in front of it.
- 1:48:08It's a nice, good breakfast and then put on the pl Hell yeah,
- 1:48:13and see what happened a couple of hours ago. See, And that's
- 1:48:18why I don't think anything, especially with the rock, is gonna happen because
- 1:48:21I just don't see it happening at five in the morning. I totally agree,
- 1:48:28because that's not gonna break social media records if it's happening when everybody's to
- 1:48:33sleep in America. So, uh, before we go, you guys wanna
- 1:48:41you guys wanna plug anything? Doyle, you want to plug anything? Yes?
- 1:48:45Uh, well you can find me in the discord dear the pc L
- 1:48:50N pc W one. Uh and like the Facebook page, yeah, the
- 1:48:57Facebook page. Uh, you got anything you want to plug? Just as
- 1:49:02always, you can find me in the same discourse PCL pc W if you
- 1:49:06happen to be a PCL Patreon subscriber. I was on their recent Patreon episode
- 1:49:14where we went over a bunch of very random questions, which was very fun
- 1:49:18and uh good time I had by all cool. Yeah, I'll have to
- 1:49:27listen to that. I still I'm still paying Brian one of the six bucks
- 1:49:30a month or whatever. I know. Oh man, yeah, yeah,
- 1:49:39I missed their podcast. I wish they would come back full time. I
- 1:49:43missed the dearly I miss I don't know what to watch anymore. I know.
- 1:49:49I just listened to an old episode. The other day. I listened
- 1:49:53to the Avengers Infinity War episode, which is crazy. How much they got
- 1:50:00right when they can when they think about Endgame, like the next movie,
- 1:50:06how much they got right. It's a good listen. Go back to listen
- 1:50:11to their Infinity War episode, Like was I on that episode? Like I
- 1:50:15was on the Black I was on the Black Panther episode, the End Game
- 1:50:20episode. Rebecca and Dan West Rebecca Dallien, Dan West. So it's pretty
- 1:50:27good. But the only thing I got the plug is like Wrestleming is coming.
- 1:50:32If you don't have your PCW shirt, you gotta go on to Pro
- 1:50:35Wrestling Teas dot com and look under podcast Championship Wrestling. Get yourself a shirt.
- 1:50:41I got mine. I love it. So that's the thing to plug.
- 1:50:47If you're gonna jacket because it's going to be cold, yeah, yeah,
- 1:50:54if you're gonna be a WrestleMania, let us know because we'll be there,
- 1:50:57yep, yep, yep. So yeah, all right, guys,
- 1:51:02let's dip out of here, here we go. Right, let it go
- 1:51:08beats go, seas