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The IndyCar Report Phoenix Reaction with Elijah Poe, Dave Chanley & Michelle Garmon (2.193.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome race fans to the Central Indian Sports Report for a special edition of the Indie Car Report with Elijah Poe, our reaction to the race in Phoenix, joining Elijah and myself is Dave Chandley, and Michelle Garment of the Cipton Tribune and L. Wood Collier to discuss a really good Phoenix race that changed on strategy at the end and gave Joseph New Garden
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: a big win, especially after what happened last year.
• 0:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kyle Kirkwood was second-day in Malukas, third, pattoe Ward, fourth, then Marcus Erickson, Alexander Rossi, nice finish, Scott Dixon, Scott McLaughlin, three Pinsky's in the top eight, Graham Ray Hall and Kiffin Simpson.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Chris and Rasmussen finished in 14th Elijah, what a shame.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was a, it was a shame for Rasmussen to finish
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: leading most of the day.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I've seen a more aggressive oval racer than Christian Rasmussen.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You talk about somebody elbows out.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was a true joy to watch.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Didn't you pay the money?
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dave and Michelle, remember this, very Thomas Shector, like.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: All agree with that, only.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Shector, I think was more of a crusher.
• 1:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Mr. Shector didn't care what anybody thought.
• 1:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: He just was gonna do it, and that was what was what?
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, Rasmussen reminds me a little of that.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well really, the main incident we're talking about is on lap 2-12 when we had a caution, a new guard in pato, Scotty Mac and others decided to pit.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Rasmussen did not, I'm interested to see your guys' thoughts on that.
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously it's hard to kind of nail down the strategy because yellows can come at any time on an oval, but then again it feels like a missed opportunity to pit.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a blender, they made a mistake, especially since he had already been involved in the incident and maybe they could give it a quick look to make sure everything was 100%.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to bunch up and you still got 40 laps, 38 laps to go, that's a lot of racing and new tires would definitely make a difference.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I felt the tires were the big difference, but I really think he didn't pit because
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he thought he would lose track position in the car and he had maybe he in his mind.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's the one feeling the handling.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He thought that he was going to run best in clean air and if he came into the pits, he wasn't going to be in clean air and maybe he would go back and end up losing even more positions.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think for him and his team, I think they thought clean air was the most important thing for him at that point.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's too many laps left, not to come in and take it, especially after you did have the little incident with Willpower there.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: It probably was the right move, but to a license point, it's a difficult decision to make you, coming out of first place is not an easy decision for sure.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm also interested to hear your guys' thoughts on that incident with Willpower, that Christian Rasmussen had.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was eerily similar to the same incident that Pologat taking out of with VK,
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and will power on an alternate strategy all the way from the back was leading that race on pure pace.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Very interesting to see that incident kind of happened.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like maybe it was a spotter mistake, but nonetheless, it kind of ruined powers day on that particular one.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I think power was trying to shut him off, you know, only he knows because he took it up pretty high and
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was trying to block a little bit, and at the same time, I think Christian got a little bit too antsy.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He could have waited because he had the pace to beat power, and he definitely had to know the last thing he wanted was a caution at that point, so I'll give 60% of the blame
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what, Dave, I'm gonna kind of, I'm gonna agree with you on that.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Power had been changing his mind to try to take away the plain air from Ras Muson during that.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Ras Muson had the best car.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: All he had to do was just, because power was going to move that he was going to be able to take advantage of up.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe if that's a downfall of Ras Muson, maybe that's it.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes he is,
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: two inpatient his aggressiveness causes him to become two inpatient.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: More the fault blame goes on power, but it could be his part.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: He could have thought he had just enough room that he, there wouldn't be contact mate.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's tough.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, someday I'd like to be a passenger and find out what it is like to go around the speedway in 160 plus or 170 miles an hour on a lap, and see just how much you're aware.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: power sustained all the damage and Rastonism didn't seem to sustain a much odd physics there that power would be the one that took all the damage if you go back and watch the race because definitely Rastonism had a lot more contact when you include the wall.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: But Elijah's right it was almost it was eerily similar to the pillow accident with VK.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought VK was a little more aggressive than even power and I give him a little more blame.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: But both of them, you could say, both sides were probably a little too aggressive.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I think the below VK incident was a little more the other way.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll go 60% VK on that.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't need to stick it into that point, especially early in the race and below didn't know he was there.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll put that on the spotter.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: He needed to know he was there.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he would have given him room, but that was a restart that was after a couple laps after the restart and below was very slow on this particular restart.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we can honestly say that's one of the first mistakes we've seen out of that number 10 crew in a very, very long time.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: how much you want to make, but they spend some time this week on working on that for next week.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for next week, and even in the future, right, that's the one thing I think the number 10 team is going to get tweeted that yesterday, our message that to you guys yesterday that I think they're going to come back with maybe even more purposeful and focus next week.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So be interesting.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to be the favorites and are like, didn't for sure.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, we just talked about Rasmussen, but we can also talk about ECR as a whole with Alexander Rossi, Finishing and Six.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: They looks like maybe the second or third best team other than the Pinsky's out there.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like they all clicked the best team on speed.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: They had it hooked up and together.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: ECR racing.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love ECR.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love Ed Carpenter and on these ovals.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: They come to play.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: it may be maybe a carbon erasing will be a true contender for the 500 and a couple months.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think they showed it same peat that they're not going to compete for any kind of championship because they're not good enough on street and road courses right now.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: They probably will be from time to time, but not consistent enough.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think for sure, they showed that they are going to be a team to be at the 500.
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the good news
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Graham Ray Hall, you can put in the mix right now as an N5100 contender.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really think that's we saw that sign yesterday and maybe even Schumacher as well.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know he's a rookie, but he's awfully talented and he picked up the ovals pretty quickly.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: First time on an over to oval to qualify, and I was just watching and cheering at the TV.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is, I think he is such a great addition to Indycar.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he just did fabulous.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, the first race at St. Pete, that was bad.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was bad.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he had nothing to do with that.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we didn't see Schumacher on that one.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: But this past weekend, we saw a very good Mc Schumacher.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you hit it right on the right on the head there, David.
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's incredible to see what he did qualifying wise.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Seeing him up and forth is was unreal.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he kind of got thrown into the fire and the race as a whole.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not used to how the air works off these cars and even just finishing the race in 18th and not dead last.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is a testament to how good and skillty is.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think when we go to some of these shorter ovals, he's going to be up in contention again.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway where he's really able to put his foot in the gas and really just kick it.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So really incredible is see RLL as a whole be super competitive because you know, when we see more competitive team show up to races, there's nothing better than seeing a full field truly competing.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Very interesting, I know we praised Fox after the St. Pete race, but it was a little rough.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It took until lap 32 just to even get the leaderboard on TV.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the camera angle is they honestly felt just a little lost at time, especially in the beginning.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested to hear your guys' thoughts on that.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I did not like the problems with the leader board.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they struggled for most part of the day, not just getting it on, but they were also on the wrong lap several times.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And did not have it working properly.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that was a glitch of some kind, but I'm sure they can correct that one.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought it was a, I thought their broadcast was quite a bit rougher than what it was the previous week.
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were so good at shaped Peter at shaped Pete, but yeah, I agree.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I caught some of the camera angles.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just was not.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: As impressed now, it could also be that whatever was causing the graph made the leader board, and that's probably some graphics that whoever's doing in the truck, it could be that maybe they were having enough problems with that.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It took focus off all their parts of what they were doing in the truck.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but yeah, I trust they will have it get it figured out before our winter.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: think the only part that that may be kind of worries me is the fact that this was a new race we're going to a new track that Fox hasn't been to, but we still have three new tracks on the calendar for the rest of this year and these are races where you cannot have those blunders.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: If this happened, say next week in Arlington where
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's expected to be a pretty massive turnout and a really big event for Indie car, or even in DC or Markham in Canada.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if you have these blunders on races where you propagate as a pretty big street and road course races, I think it's just a bad look for Indie car and cannot happen.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I maybe they're just were thinking they could use some of the same thing that they plan on using in the NASCAR race today, or whatever.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but,
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just hope that this is a one that one done bad race for them.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I will say the new visor cams they have.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were saying, oh, we're going to have more of those this year.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought on the street course didn't work very well.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just looked shaky and there was a car way out in front of me couldn't see.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I thought on the oval was really cool.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was smooth.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: You could kind of see exactly what the driver's seeing and I think that added to it.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually liked Joy Lagano on there.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I probably will get some blowback from that, but I thought he added quite a bit.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, he did a nice job, except for you.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he was thinking from a NASCAR perspective that he said what VK did, there was no problem with what he did, maybe in a NASCAR, but in any car that was a pretty big mistake.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I hope he never looked at it with a car.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess he'll crash everybody on the track.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think it's ingenious by Fox throughout the whole race that they did really talk about a lot of NASCAR components.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: They compared the two series, they had Jamie little there, Clint Boyer wrote in the two series, Joey Logano in the booth.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that is such a ingenious way to introduce NASCAR fans to Indie Car because I think the time period of NASCAR fans not liking Indie Car and Indie Car fans hating on NASCAR.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It has to end.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're going up against a Titan that is four little one.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I won't watch a lap of NASCAR, I think it's boring racing.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't enjoy NASCAR anymore.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: They change so many components.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think they've taken away from what was, what's exciting about NASCAR and aren't any really good driver rivalries out there or anymore.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, well, I can't agree with that, but I do think.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: The viewership that NASCAR brings in, we're talking two to three million more than any other.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll stand there with you.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not ever going to watch a NASCAR race unless I like the track, but if a NASCAR fan tunes into any car, that's benefit for any car.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take that.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm side by side.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think anybody who says, ooh, I'd rather watch this NASCAR race is kind of a moron.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm stepping on some toes there, Greg.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it truly is becoming more enjoyable to watch the racist cleaner.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're having some really great passes.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought yesterday, you can't complain about the action on the track.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And even though below ended up dominating kind of like you did at St. Pete, the cars behind and there was a lot of great racing.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he carted 250 miles yesterday and NASCAR's doing 500 today.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's a race.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who in there in the right mind gets sit down and watch for three, three and a half hours.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're fun to go to.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it would be entertaining to watch live.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I cannot just sit and watch that anymore.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry NASCAR fans.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, if you love both, I get
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Susie's that producer Susie's dad loves every race that comes on television.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I completely get that, but if you look at the two of them side by side, I don't know how you could possibly pick NASCAR.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love the racing at the 500 because there was actually racing because of the brick yard.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It, indeed, is not really meant for the NASCAR's cars.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to pass and everything, but my environment was better.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it because NASCAR people were there to watch the racing.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Indicarp people were there to party.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'd have to fight my way through a drunken crowd on my way out of the track and then you can
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: 500 race, where I had no such problems at the NASCAR race, and this one's funny is you think it might have been different, and maybe it is different today, but not when I was, not a few decades ago.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's very different today.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want to comment this though.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the idea of the double header was fantastic.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was good probably for both NASCAR and in the car.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: because I think it brought an element together and I hope they do it again next year and I really would hope that they could do it at another racing venue that would be an oval that would work for both of them.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good done over and over.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a perfect segment because, you know, Doug Bowles said yesterday they sat down with NASCAR executives and are planning to be back at Phoenix next year, but they're also evaluating other ovals.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we've talked on this podcast at length, how indie car needs to be at more ovals.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you can do these double-header weekends, maybe two or three a year, what an opportunity for indie car to be all over the nation and areas it hasn't been to in years.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: What Richmond Beck?
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't hate what would any cars look like at Bristol.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think that'd be a mess.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would be a mess.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: It would be true that.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is the first time someone in the indie car championship has led other than Alex Blow since June 23rd, 2024, and the standings as of right now are Joseph Newgarden 1st, Kyle Kirkwood and 2nd, Scottie Mac in 3rd, Paddo Award in 4th, and Alex Blow in 5th.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess my question to you guys is, for two races in, how long do you think the field can really challenge below here?
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not very long.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: There are a bunch of road courses coming up, road and street courses, you'll probably take the lead again.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's a long season, and this could happen any time, which is why Michelle and I and our free season predictions picked the field against Alex, below, because these things can happen, so I'm predicting Alex, below, will be in the lead by the time we get to Indy.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you never know, because these things happen.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it could remain close till after the Indy race,
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just because, hello, one, the 500 last year, it'll be interesting, I also would be, I said close that doesn't mean that pillow won't be in the lead by the time they get to end the night, I would be surprised if it he's very far out of lead or is not top three within the next couple of races.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say it's going to be closer.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say it's going to be closer.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to run off with it.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Indicard, our Indy, pardon me, Indy itself is just a fantastic race, and he happened to be at the right spot at the right time last year to pull it off.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that could be anybody's race.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've always said that, it's a long race, and it could be anybody's race, and that thing's happened to some good drivers.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, and it's double points.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm going to say after the Indy race, it's going to be a lot of people right up there, very competitive.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm all for that, but he's got to get more pace.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have on my notes here to talk about Fato, and I thought he had a really good weekend, but I don't think the Aero cars had the pace that ECR or Pinsky had.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: They did look like they were just not quite,
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's quick, Peto Award with I think it was about 10, 15 laps to go who was ahead of New Garden, just could not get around David Malukas, and that's just on pure pace alone.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had the fresher tires, he had the benefit of everything, and that's where I think these era McLaren's kind of struggle, and they definitely need to figure it out for the 500, because we all know how good Peto Award is, but he's really going to have to find that pace.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: They'll have them up there in the speed by the time Indie gets here.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're going to have to, because you know, you mentioned the other racing teams, but I enjoy any performed well.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Their cars were pretty good yesterday too.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And right now, it seems like Aaron McLaren is maybe just even a tad behind them.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: a Kirkwood had a great race will power really had a good race, but for the entire weekend, the bad things that happened will power is right on will power.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was not on and ready.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I put that all on will power himself.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they did.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kevin Simpson honestly had a pretty good, if you started down in 19th and was able to finish in 10th, I think that's a positive swing for him, but got Dickson, he was only alternate strategy, just didn't quite work out for him.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: But to your point Dave, Kyle Kirkwood, he only had three stops compared to five for New Garden, four for David Malukas and five for Patto.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Marcus Armstrong and other great drive as well for three stops really saved that as well starting down on 13th and ending up in fifth.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a really good on short ovals.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think where the strategies they are just everywhere.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love short-overracing.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love overracing period, but that short-overracing, I think, is just fantastic.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: The more the better, and they had passing yesterday, they had multiple lanes just today.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, that's off to Phoenix Raceway, the way it played out.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was fantastic.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: they were there was a time when there were only two short ovals on the schedule and they were with my least favorites because they couldn't pass each other man that is not the case anymore no no there was 564 on track passes 18 lead changes in 11 different race leaders just absolutely incredible product that any car has and if I'm Doug Bowles I'd be looking at every
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Richmond, I agree, please come back to Kentucky.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Please come back to Kentucky.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: That would be a great dull head or weekend.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's one that Roger Pence he just needs to buy and the problem was the parking.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was miserable experience getting in and out of that track.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: But they need if they can fix that, they should run at Kentucky.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a great place to run.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, Dennis Hauker, guys.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Very impressed.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he is an open-coming driver.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: He managed to race well and stay out of the way, both at the same time.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have nothing but praise for Dennis Halger.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: He really reminds me of a young pillow at that DCRC.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's incredible that things he did.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: The fact he was able to save that car on the back stretch with the air coming off of Rasmussen's front wing, that was unbelievable.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: He went backwards down the back stretch for about 100 meters and then spun that thing around.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even though he didn't have, even though he didn't have the strongest finish in 15th, this kid's still a rookie and he just came off one of the most impressive drives I've ever seen at St. Pete.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if he's able to keep this momentum up, it's going to be hard for and dreading not to sit at the big team.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: It really is going to be hard for them.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would want to do that right now.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: He went backwards down the front stretch, the entire way spun it around and then got back into the lead at some point.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 23:21
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• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I haven't seen him move that cool or a spin like that since Danny Sullivan way back for a time Elijah at the end of the win firm one it was that was that was an incredible spin save and I think he may have went on to win that race or he had at least a top three finish Getting into Arlington next week we've got a brand new race on the
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indicars scheduled and there's actually news today about the new knockout qualifying format that is going to be instituted for the Allington race.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can read it from the press release here.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: The formats, the segments of one and two are going to remain unchanged.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then the fire zone fastics segment will be adjusted to single car, single lap qualifying beginning with the six fastest qualifier from segment two and working to the fastest from the previous round.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is going to be exhilarating to watch.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about one lap pure pace.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all you get.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be an awesome watch.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned to see your guys' thoughts on it.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a good move.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a good move.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: The battle now becomes getting to the fast six, although it's always been trying to get to the fast six, but getting to the fast six becomes a huge factor.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, now you're on your own for out there by yourself.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: There will be no toe that will be, uh, it's just going to be different.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wonder how long it's going to take to run the whole thing.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I've always thought they should be out there by themselves, qualify.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like the old days.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be a great way to perform.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's fun.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be exciting.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, don't be interesting to see how well it does.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it'll be interesting to see if it increases viewership
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're not wrong.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is going to be a super big race.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've got pensking entertainment, the cowboys, the Texas Rangers, all partnering up on this event.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right around AT&T Stadium, I am so thrilled to see what Fox is going to do with some of these camera angles.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was able to see a video of Kirkwood walking the layout.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And most of that is brand new fresh asphalt.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to be a super smooth track surface.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Super grippy.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the visual with F1 around the hard rock stadium and Miami is very cool, and this one might even be cooler.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I wouldn't be surprised to see formula in the car down there at Hard Rock at some point, because there's rumors of an indie next test running around that course, so that would be super interesting.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the right here next weekend is at 1230 on Sunday with qualifications coming at 230 on Saturday the day before.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Fox does a great job with the qualifying and the interviewing and I know we've given him a little bit of a bad rap today on the race itself, but all of the rest Fox has done a magnificent job of really promoting this sport because they're all in.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I look forward to Arlington, but as you know, I'm an oval guy, but I'll be there watching, I'll be here watching the Arlington race for sure.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to it.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be great.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you Elijah, smooth, smooth ass ball, just the scenery.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be fun and I'd prefer oval sometimes throw type courses or street courses.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think this one is going to be an interesting one and a fun one, just like I think the DC one is going to be interesting and intriguing later this summer.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll be sure to join us next week, then it should be a really interesting race.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's multiple long straights, very hard breaking and overtaking zones available for these drivers.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: It should be just an overall amazing product.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It can't wait to talk about it.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we'll be back on Thursday morning for the Indie Car Report with Elijah Poe Hope, Michelle and Dave are able to join us.
• 28:05
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• 28:34
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• 28:38
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