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POST-GAME DEBRIEF: Stop Messing With Tyrese Haliburton… · Small Ball with Kenny Beecham

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about it.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: The Pacers find a way to do it again.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: Two of the last three games this Pacers team has won has been them down by seven plus points with 50 seconds to go and still winning.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Do y'all realize how insane that is something you see once a year?
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: And like the entirety of the NBA.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: We just saw it twice in a single week, and that that's from the same team.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Insane.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: I guess OKC kind of did something similar.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: The last 48 hours of hoops have been elite.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: I know that the Warriors Minnesota game, they gave us a ton, but still the last 48 hours have been elite.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: Let's focus on the Pacers.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: They had already taken game number one, which took uh home court advantage away from the Cavaliers.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we had knew that Darius Garland was questionable, Hunter was questionable, Evan Mobley was questionable, but the way they were talking about it in game number one on the broadcast, Darius Garland seemed like he was gonna be ready for game number two.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, that wasn't the case.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: I make a dinner, I get the notification that all three of them are out.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: I thought in my mind, at least one of them will be available.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: All three of them out.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: So throw the energy out of the expectations for me.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, if we're gonna watch this game, I'm not expecting anything.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then the Cavs come out and they're hooping.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: You wanna know how how bad it was for the Cavs, though, with these three big injuries, obviously.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Their start lineup of Mitchell, Ty Jerome, Dean Wade, Max Struess, and Jared Allen had played a total of eight possessions together in the regular season.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: Eight.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: Do you wanna know how insane it is to be in the second round in the playoffs, and that is what you have to go through?
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's unfortunate for the Cavs, because I truly do believe that full healthy, fully strength, that this Cavs team was good enough to go potentially win a championship.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have them winning, but like they were in my upper tier of contender, and now we're gonna have Darius Garland still dealing with the store.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have Evan Mobley dealing what we're dealing with, and DeAndre Hunt.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're already down 2-0.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't, I just don't know.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't know.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, they come out and in a in a game where it would have been super easy to be down by 20 points in the first half, they were up by 20 points.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: Donovan Mitchell gave everything he could, and I guess something similar happened to him in this game that happened in game number one.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh game number one, he struggled to shoot.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: And in this game, he struck to shoot his way.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: He's one of seven from three.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: But one thing that he did a ton in game number one was paint touch, paint touch, paint touch.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: And the reality is this many paint touch, you get 30 shots on the rim, you get 21 free throws.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_00: By the end of it, he is exhausted.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: And not to mention, there was like a hundred plays in this game, but more like 10, where it's so much contact with Donovan Mitchell that I know he is bruised up.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: He might he might be in a ice bath right now, still right now, because he was in so many bang bang plays that uh I can't I felt for him, man.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: This is the second time in the last two years where he goes for 48 or 50 points and they still don't have enough to win.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: Ty Jerome gave us a stinker, full stop, a stinker.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I I guess last game he what took 28 of 20 from the field.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: Just his go-to shot so far in the series hasn't been going.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: That little floater from right within the arc, just not going, not going, not going.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: Again, this lineup makes no sense.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: Max Juice gave us his best playoff game of his career.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: Sam Merrill comes in and hits a big shots.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: But when I saw Craig Porter Jr.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: take it to this game, I'm like, yeah, man, if they win this game, it will be a miracle.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: But eventually the miracle happens on the other side of things.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: Down by seven, 40 seconds to go, and things just turn up.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: Halliburton, I want to give the Cavs a credit on Halliburton for the first three quarters because they denied, denied, denied.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: And you know the age O'Tell with Tyrese Halliburton, it's like if he is aggressive, get into the basket or aggressive with his shot, this team can be really, really deadly.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: And we talked about the stat of the being 27-3 anytime he scores 20.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: But I thought it wasn't necessarily the lack of aggression for him, because it is that as well, but it was also the Cavs just saying, hey man, somebody else got to do it.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: And it ended up being a mouse turn, ended up being uh Aaron Eastmith for a lot of this.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: But in that fourth quarter, for him to come alive again and for him to miss that free throw, get the rebound, step back.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Rick Carlisle for not burning the timeout and letting him play straight up and hitting that shot and hitting the big balls uh celebration.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: I know he's about to get fat about$10 to$15,000 for it, but damn it, it is worth it.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: What a game.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: What a game.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: I love the energy when they were down by uh 18 points or so in this game.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: It felt like they were giving up offensive rebounds, they were just not looking like a team that was ready to win a game.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: And like I always feel like, and I got no stats to prove this, when the opposing team is dealing with so many injuries and you're already up by a game, you have to, you have to win.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because in this case, full stop, the Cavs are a better team in full strength.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: Would they have won the series?
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think they probably would have.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: But like the pay, I'm not saying the pace are a bad team by any means because since Jam won, they were like the top four team in the league.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: But when you have a team back against the wall with injuries, you gotta take advantage because you never know.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: Game three, those dudes could be back.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: And we just squandered away a possibility of going up 2-0 because we didn't have our foot on their necks.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: And Benedict Matherin was one of the guys that when they were giving up offensive rebounds, and so he is fighting over screens, he is competing, competing, competing.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: And and that is not something that'll show up in the box score, but damn it, I recognized it very early on.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: He's one of the few people that I felt like kept his head steady when the calves are going on this cavalry, if you will.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then eventually they chip away, chip away, chip away to ultimately they pull off the big comeback.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I thought that also, like, there are things you could take away from the calves' perspective that you, I mean, moral victories at this point you're down to oh, don't mean anything.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: But like Pascal Siakam at some point was relegated to kind of just exist on the court because they did a really good job of not allowing him to get the switches that he wanted.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like there are certain things in game number one, they switched almost everything.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: In game number two, they did switch a lot as well, but they also kind of dictated, at least in the first two core uh first two quarters of this game, they made the Pacers play their game on the defensive side of the ball.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought eventually the Pacers just got smarter and eventually generated some shots that they really liked.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: But damn, the the moral victories don't mean a lot if you are a Cavs fan right now.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, this is your best chance to win a championship post Brah Braun, and now you are down by what you're down by.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: What is what is this?
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Am I tweaking?
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: Has this been there the whole time?
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: What is is that my other monitor glaring?
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, um, big time shot from Tyrese Halliburton.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think it was Carson from Nerd Sessh.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I ain't fact-checked this Carson, so you better not be lying.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: He said something along the lines that Tyrese Halliburton clutch chain is real because he's made 10 of 11 game tying slash game winning shots.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: That don't even sound like a real stat, but his he's from from Nerd Sessh.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: And they they're that's what they're about.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Stats and shit.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: So um it's real.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I I I know we can talk about this till the cows come home.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: Most overrated player in the league, just made no sense.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: And granted, of the 90 people that voted, it was about 12 or 13 people that sat it.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that could have been one team.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: That could have been the entirety of the of the Bucks roster.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we hate him for what he did last year.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's overrated as hell.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: He really is nice.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: And one thing I will say about Tyrese, maybe not so much this game.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'll hold on that.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'll hold on that.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna talk about his defensive side of the ball.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna hold on that for the time being.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna hold on that for the time being.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, amazing, amazing game for the Pacers.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: Now they're two games away from being in the conference finals.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: And the way things are going, man.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: Woo! I know that there's gonna be a lot of conversations about their competition in the postseason over the last two years.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: Personally, I couldn't give less of a damn.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: I said the same thing last year.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: What the hell are they supposed to do?
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: What are they supposed to do?
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know the play that Evan Mobley got injured on, but the play that DeAndre Hunter got injured on is a ridiculous chase down block on the ball.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: Awkward ending, awkward falling.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing they can do about that.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: Darius Garlo was injured before this.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: What are they supposed to do?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: Just give the Cavs a win because they're injured?
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, we're gonna play our ass off.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna win.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I respect them.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: I I know a lot of people may not in the NBA Twitter world.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: For me personally, what they're winning basketball games.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: They're winning basketball games.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not like this is a team that was a 37-win team in the regular season.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: Go look at them stats, man.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: Top four net ratings since January 1st.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: Number eight defense since January 1st.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: The Dolphins was already going, and Tyrese Halliburner is averaging 22 and 12 or something along those lines.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: They are a good team.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: I say that to say, I say that, but I also do believe that the Cavs probably win this series, all things considered, if they were healthy, but we will never really know, I guess.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: Let's quickly shift over to the second game of the night.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: The Draymond Green jump shooting extravaganza.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: He hit four in the first half and it just bricked everything after that.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like one uh Pierre's in the group chat, like, you gotta laugh at them threes.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm not touching that dog.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: I know he's not about to hit no more.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: He exhausted all of his three-point shooting for this series, I would assume.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but no, Draymond was great both sides of the floor, I would say.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then Jimmy Butler, even though he always still finds a way to be passive, he ended up with 20 shots in this game.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there are certain times he gets past his first defender and he's trying to play make more than he is trying to shoot.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I just want Jimmy to just go up.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: But an amazing Jimmy game.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: Steph Kirk comes out, he's incredible for the first quarter.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: He hits three threes, he looks phenomenal.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: Then he's holding his handy.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: And obviously, I'm not a doctor.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: Damn it, I didn't.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very, very I'm as far away from a doctor as you can be.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: But a hamstring always scares me.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: A hamstring, from my experience as a watcher of this sport, it can be I'm back in two days.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: It can be I'm back in three weeks.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: Hell, when we were in high school a thousand years ago, my boy Mike, you know him from Numbers on the Board podcast, he had just won the starting spot.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: He starts his first three games of the season.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: He ends up hurting his hammy.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: Mike is basically out for three weeks.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now, he don't got NBA trainers and a super, super human body like NBA professionals go, but I watched my boy go from the starter on this team to the ninth man because of his hammy and he couldn't run no more.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm fingers crossed and I'm praying that this is something small, that we don't have to even think about it.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: But it it definitely changes the series.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: I know that the Warriors ended up closing things out, and I thought that all things considered, I mean, they ran so many different lineup constructions.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: My boy Steve Curry is out there trying everything and anything.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm surprised we didn't see Kevin Knox tonight.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Super surprised.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: But we when you get Pat Spencer giving him 10 good minutes, John Vicaminga wasn't.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: You get 10 good minutes from Pat Spencer, who's doing his little hook shot and everything.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, the defensive side of the ball is really where you hang your hat if you're a Warriors guy without Steph Curry on the floor.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought they did a phenomenal job there.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: But without Steph Curry, it's hard for me to believe that this is going to be a series they can win.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we're fingers crossed, just as a watcher, the sport, that we want to see Steph Curry be healthy and okay.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you're the Wolves, I think there was a lot of parts in this game where they were just disgusting, like out of control, undisciplined.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: Nas Reed, of course, gets 19 points today, second leading score for the Timbulls.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: There's a few um fast breaks.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, Nas, can you slow the hell down?
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's dribbling off his own feet, big shoes, big knees, just hitting everything.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: And um they played a sloppy game.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: And they also shot 17% from three.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: So of the four playoff rounds we had, the I don't even know how I can call it the underdog, the road team has won game one in every single one of these.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: And the question becomes: should the Celtics be worried?
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: Should OKC be worried?
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Should the Cavs now down to O?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: And should the Timbulls be worried?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Of all of these things, I will say out of all of these teams, if I'm ranking who should be worried the most, is obviously the Cavs.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'd probably go, number two is tough.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't want to say the Celtics, because I still think the Celtics could win this series.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think if I'm worried about the Celtics, it's the next series in the series after that, because Porzingis' stuff is real.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what the hell is going on with Porzingis.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then Jalen Brown just does not look good as a basketball player right now.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I just don't know what to expect from that.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: OKC had a super blunder at the end of their game, and they're not gonna have the best player in the series, but I still do trust them to come back and win that series.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe that's the way I'm putting it.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going one, Cavs most worried.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: I guess Celtics two, even though I still think the Celtics can win a championship.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: OKC three and then Minnesota four.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: I watched this game and I didn't I didn't think that it was like, oh, this is a depth sentence for the Minnesota Timbs.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm wrong.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: Only time will tell.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: But when you shoot this bad as a team, when your star player, Anthony Elards, scores what, two points in the first half, and then he has to shift his game because his jump shots not falling to be strictly at the rim.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's just I I I trust them a little bit more, and maybe I just need another game sample size from this Warriors team doing what they just did defensively for me to believe in them more.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: But um, for what it's worth, Warriors just put together a really good defensive performance, and that that might be the way they win this series.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: I say a lot today.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um if you enjoyed, leave it a like.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'll see y'all tomorrow.